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ted5310
Brea, CA
(Zone 10b)

May 27, 2012
7:40 AM

Post #9140314

Thought this might be Dtps. Ever-spring Prince "Black Bird", but not sure. Anybody have any ideas?

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 27, 2012
12:06 PM

Post #9140618

Ted, I tried my crude method of plugging the name into a Google search. The best pic I came up with for "Black Bird" did not have as much of a white edge as your flowers. They weren't as dark a color either. Doesn't necessarily mean a thing of course, it's hard to photograph red and get the color to show right.

Flowers can vary too, but there are a few more that are similar, notably "Black Swan" and "Black Butterfly02" did have the white edge in the pic I found. http://www.millennium-orchids.co.uk/photo3.html

It's a great flower, lovely purple stems and look at all the buds you have coming! Nice growing there!
ted5310
Brea, CA
(Zone 10b)

May 27, 2012
8:18 PM

Post #9141176

I don't think it's so crude. I tried the same thing and did not get to where you got. You're right about the reds. This 'chid is very dark, much darker than the photo. I think you're right. I'm going with "Black Butterfly02"
GreenEyedGuru
SF Bay Area, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 31, 2012
9:31 AM

Post #9146168

Hey, that's like mine.

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 31, 2012
1:14 PM

Post #9146450

And (drum roll) does yours have a label??
GreenEyedGuru
SF Bay Area, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 31, 2012
4:00 PM

Post #9146679

Nope! :) It was a "black" dpts that I got at a wholesale nursery in Half Moon Bay. In this thread (http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1245127/), MaypopLaurel said that there might be someone who could help to identify, but the first bud only opened a couple weeks ago so I was waiting to get a better pic.

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 31, 2012
4:57 PM

Post #9146770

It's gorgeous, anyway. You're obviously growing it well, so keep on doing what you're doing.

I'd go with Ted's guess that it is Dtps. Ever-spring Prince 'Black Butterfly02' or keep on searching for the expert who can ID it.
ted5310
Brea, CA
(Zone 10b)

May 31, 2012
6:15 PM

Post #9146874

Nice. Got mine at Gubler in Yucca Valley at there yearly Rotary thing. Comes up in October I think
GreenEyedGuru
SF Bay Area, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 31, 2012
8:21 PM

Post #9147067

Thanks dyzzy :)
GreenEyedGuru
SF Bay Area, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 31, 2012
8:46 PM

Post #9147097

Black Butterfly 02 looks like it might have a hint of yellow in the middle
GreenEyedGuru
SF Bay Area, CA
(Zone 9b)

June 1, 2012
8:47 AM

Post #9147601

I emailed the person that Maypop suggested and here's what he said:

Identification of Harlequin Phal hybrids is tricky at best. Your picture looks like a Harlequin bred with a white. If this be true, I see three possibilities that exist (at least):

1. Dtps. Yu Pin Panda (Phal. Golden Peoker x Phal. Ming-Hsing Snow Angel). It's usually rounder than the flower pictured.

2. Dtps. Yu Pin Pearl (Phal. Ever-spring King x Phal. Musashino). This is likely the one, though it shows some further mutation.

3. Or a further mutation of one of these or of another Harlequin Phal. If the latter is the case, then you will not be able to discern its true identity.

Tom

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