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MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

May 27, 2012
7:18 PM

Post #9141093

Five images of a raptor at the coast. I can't determine if it's a square-tailed kite, a black-breasted buzzard or a whistling kite. Any help with identification appreciated.

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minnesippi
Oakdale, MN
(Zone 4a)

May 27, 2012
7:36 PM

Post #9141113

looks like a spotted harrier

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

May 28, 2012
3:05 PM

Post #9142198

It's a kite; my very strong inclination is to say Black Kite (mapped as wintering in the Perth area), but that's with my usual proviso that I'm not familiar with Australian natives and don't have an Aussie field guide, so only going by online pic searches. Square-tailed I'd think can be excluded as that has much more obvious barring on the primaries, and Whistling I'd think can be excluded as that has a rounded (not triangular-cornered) tail and prominent very pale inner primaries. Black-breasted Buzzard has a much heavier bill, and also white bases to its primaries.

Resin
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

May 28, 2012
4:20 PM

Post #9142296


Thank you both.

Minnesippi. I had a close look at the spotted harrier and it seems a less bulky than this bird and this one's legs weren't prominent in flight.

Resin. I'm planning on going back down there this morning and will see if I can get some clearer shots. I just couldn't narrow it down from my ID books, but you're right about the triangular cornered tail.
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

May 28, 2012
10:49 PM

Post #9142625

I went back this morning and took some more shots.

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MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

May 28, 2012
10:51 PM

Post #9142626

The legs are pale grey and are tucked in during flight, only extending when they were coming down towards the water, which they touched with the tips of their claws before flying skyward again.

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Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

May 29, 2012
1:57 PM

Post #9143642

The new photos are a different bird (or birds!) - these are a Whistling Kite, compare the rounded tail with the triangular tail in pics 2 & 4 in the top post; also the difference in the pale inner primaries not shown in the first set, and the streaked, rather than spotted, breast.

Resin

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OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 29, 2012
4:22 PM

Post #9143870

Ditto to Resin on the 2nd bird..def. a Whistling Kite.

My guess on bird #1 is either Black Kite or a juvie Square-tailed Kite (beginning of white on the face?).
MargaretK
PERTH
Australia

May 29, 2012
10:55 PM

Post #9144294

Thanks, Resin and Old Ned. That shows the differences very clearly Resin. I did notice the difference in the tails, and wondered if I was seeing two different birds, but didn't pursue that thought any further. I didn't notice the wings - I just thought I'd captured more detail because I was closer.

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