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grits74571
Talihina, OK

June 16, 2012
8:29 AM

Post #9167456

Well at least that is my ID if I am wrong please let me know >> It was seemingly patroling an area close to a hole that I must assume is it's nest It is over one inch long and quite formidable looking..
grits74571
Talihina, OK

June 16, 2012
8:58 AM

Post #9167476

My ID suggest a Philanthus gibbosus according to bug files
lepfarmer
Red Oak, TX

June 16, 2012
9:01 AM

Post #9167479

Grits, this is a Cicada Killer Wasp, and as the name implies, it hunts and stuns Cicadas with it's stinger. It then drags the still alive but coma-stricken Cicada back to it's hole where it will tuck it into a chamber and deposit an egg on it, then seal the chamber up and let the developing larva feed on the Cicada.

Dale Clark
Dallas County Lepidopterists' Society
http://www.dallasbutterflies.com
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

June 16, 2012
9:02 AM

Post #9167482

Poor cicadas! I would like to see one in action. Not sure I have ever noticed one around here but will look for them now.
C
sweetmommy
Fulshear, TX
(Zone 9b)

June 16, 2012
9:11 AM

Post #9167489

Dale, I'm so happy to have you around here to id all of our mystery bugs!
grits74571
Talihina, OK

June 16, 2012
9:17 AM

Post #9167492

Thanks Dale ,patti had also corrected me on another e mail thing we share news on so now it is back to bug files to fix my Boo Boo
grits74571
Talihina, OK

June 16, 2012
9:29 AM

Post #9167510

Dale do they ever feed on anything else as it is just a tad early for the Cicadas here ,I don't think I have heard any yet..
grits74571
Talihina, OK

June 18, 2012
4:12 PM

Post #9170584

After saying I had not heard any Cicadas last evening they were singing up a storm and today I notice several more circling in my garden ..I wonder if they like it because there is a good bit of bare undisturbed ground and I am seeing lots of those holes (like in the pic) anyway just one more fun thing about gardening...

Loonie1

Loonie1
Rowlett, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 19, 2012
8:26 AM

Post #9171458

Cicada Killer Wasps are beautiful and fun to watch zoom around the yard. Last year they were thick but so far this year I've only seen a couple.

Carla
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

June 19, 2012
8:29 AM

Post #9171463

Ok this is off topic but I have seen wasp like insects that look like they have a helmet on and that carry away bees. Am I drinking too much or is there such a creature. I thought they were interesting til I saw one grab a bee.
C
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

June 19, 2012
11:22 AM

Post #9171662

I was sitting in the garden picking beans, when a cicada killer started buzzing me. It was darting back and forth around my head, freaking me out! I thought it was going to attack me, turns out, I had set my chair over its hole. lol

Newton, that sounds like a Robber Fly.
sweetmommy
Fulshear, TX
(Zone 9b)

June 19, 2012
11:26 AM

Post #9171664

I have lots of these holes but the wasps that live in mine look different. Mine are mostly black with black wings.
realbirdlady
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

June 19, 2012
12:36 PM

Post #9171738

lol drunken entomology
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

June 19, 2012
6:32 PM

Post #9172117

I would definately take that class. Did not see it offered in college, sadly. Robber fly huh, will have to look those up.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

June 19, 2012
6:34 PM

Post #9172119

Yes, they were robber flies. Haven't seen them yet and hopefully I won't. Thanks for the ID.
C

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 20, 2012
5:48 AM

Post #9172532

I bet the fast striped flyer I am seeing buzzing around is the Cicada Killer Wasp, going to see if I can watch for it to land to id.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

June 20, 2012
7:22 AM

Post #9172653

Sheila, I'm exactly sure how big they are, but guessing at least 1 1/2, to 2 inches long. I don't have any other wasp that enormous. If your first instinct is scream and run for the hills...no ID needed, it's a cicada killer.lol

Loonie1

Loonie1
Rowlett, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 20, 2012
1:19 PM

Post #9173141

Scream and run for the hills ... so true, Lulu!! But they are completely harmless (unless provoked ... and even then you have to really provoke them to even make them pay any attention to you). And anything that goes after Cicadas is a good thing in my book. I liken them to little fighter jets and enjoy watching them patrol around my flowerbeds.

Carla
grits74571
Talihina, OK

July 4, 2012
9:17 AM

Post #9192692

Since first posting this thread the numbers of the Cicada killer Wasp in my garden have increased in a dramatic fashion and each generation seems larger am I imagining this or is it right ..DW has done some reading on this and said that the males do not even have a stinger .is this true ???
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2012
9:10 AM

Post #9193885

No clue, but interesting tho. Do the males not hunt?

A friend just brought me another Texas biggie bug..a hercules beetle! It's dead, but very cool. I'll try to get a photo soon.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 5, 2012
4:57 PM

Post #9194494

Ok, grits, cadykillers and mosquitoes, the females are as dangerous as the rest of the feminine world? Chuckl
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 5, 2012
5:40 PM

Post #9194560

Now now...

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2012
5:39 PM

Post #9199620

We had our own scare this week with wasp. We sat down in chairs just a couple feet from the cooker and at eye level with the nest. These were killed...no questions asked!

Loonie1

Loonie1
Rowlett, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 10, 2012
12:35 PM

Post #9200529

I can understand that, Sheila. Those nasties will sting you.

Carla

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 10, 2012
7:02 PM

Post #9200941

It is time to prowl the edges aroun the house ESP if lil ones are out for those overnight nests of pain, careful reaching under lids and walking up to things, cuz I would bet money those yellow jackets,ground hornets, and wasps are going to start getting meaner, and more numerous now. Honest guys- I am up in Ks/Ms area at the moment and the dust and sun are depressing me, I would swear it I'd August already!
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 11, 2012
7:38 PM

Post #9202173

Yikes, good riddens to them, Sheila! They do seem to be gaining, after a slow start this spring. I keep them knocked down around the house, however they out sneak me by building nest in my plants. I really hate that!

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2012
6:43 AM

Post #9208470

I was cutting back some tree sized privet shrubs of my neighbors once, up on a ladder and cut back some limbs and came face to face with a nest. Quickest decent from a ladder I ever made! I didn't realize until then that they made nests in plants.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 17, 2012
6:48 AM

Post #9208488

I have heard tales of paper wasp nests as large as 'cars' these hunters run up onto in the woods down here, be careful guys
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 17, 2012
8:16 AM

Post #9208659

Oh sure, and we all know hunters and fishermen never exaggerate.lol
This year they have been building under my winter squash leaves. I have lots of dill and parsley in those beds. They are staking themselves out and poaching my desirable caterpillars. The joke is on them, I can cut a vine long enough to drag away the nest and never get near it.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

July 17, 2012
8:29 AM

Post #9208676

I do not have any of the yellow paper wasp but I do have a lot of the big red wasp,one of those stung DW last fall and it took over a month to heal ..I guess diabetics and wasp should not inhabit the same house..

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 17, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9208914

yup, red wasps are haunting my hummer feeder, and we're killing constantly, daubers, too, actually the paper wasps (ground hornets) they have a few pix of the sizes of nests in the museum in Huntsville, and they are definitely sobering size, were as bad as the wild hog and javelina running loose around em...poor DW, everything is hard on diabetics- she has my sympathies.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
7:33 AM

Post #9217914

All I needed was a copperhead wrapped around it for a triple threat. Any volunteers to take care of this for me?

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2012
7:39 AM

Post #9217922

Long range spray! Chemicals can be so nice...
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
7:56 AM

Post #9217938

LOL Yeah, all my organic philosophies are out the window with this mess!

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2012
10:30 AM

Post #9218143

Well, at least you won't douse em with gasoline! Smoke em tho, like a bee, if you want to just run em off, I believe that will work.
sweetmommy
Fulshear, TX
(Zone 9b)

July 25, 2012
6:55 PM

Post #9218787

Cocoa- Even I would run for chemicals after seeing that!
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2012
11:07 AM

Post #9221514

I have all of the above here at the "ranch". Tidied up several pot plants yesterday and they were filled with HUGE grasshoppers. Now I know what is eating on all the greenery. I caught them and stomped on them. Anyone know of a safe deterrent?

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 28, 2012
4:01 PM

Post #9221735

Grasshoppers, really cold weather, they are hard to kill. Can you birdnet the most important stuff?
lonediver
Maricopa, AZ
(Zone 9b)

July 28, 2012
9:02 PM

Post #9222015

kittriana wrote:yup, red wasps are haunting my hummer feeder, and we're killing constantly, daubers, too, actually the paper wasps (ground hornets) they have a few pix of the sizes of nests in the museum in Huntsville, and they are definitely sobering size, were as bad as the wild hog and javelina running loose around em...poor DW, everything is hard on diabetics- she has my sympathies.




kittriana,

Are you killing (mud) daubers ? Actually mud daubers are somewhat benificial .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_dauber.

Social bees and wasps are much more prone to attacking/stinging as they are programmed to defending the nest/colony. Solitary bees and wasps are not nearly as likely to sting .

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2012
10:22 PM

Post #9222047

Ooh Coco...nasty nest and inhabitants. I see in the first picture there is a chrysalis of a butterfly that has been emptied looks like too.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 29, 2012
1:16 AM

Post #9222071

Red wasps yes, daubers, not unless they come after me, daubers are usually singles, paper wasps I am calling the ground hornets that LOOK like yellow jackets, in our heat they are really mean.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 30, 2012
10:28 AM

Post #9223672

Sheila, your right it does look like a chrysalis, I didn't notice it until I saw the pictures on the computer. It did look like a few of the wasp had been wrapped up as well. I thought it was strange, I've always believed that wasp would eat all spiders. I guess black widows are the exception.
jannz2
Pilot Point, TX
(Zone 7b)

August 18, 2012
6:17 AM

Post #9245464

Reading through this thread I'm reminded of what someone told me about living in Texas before we moved here 34yrs ago from CA. She said..."Get used to 'bugs'... because they're big and plentiful'.

Loonie1

Loonie1
Rowlett, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 20, 2012
12:24 PM

Post #9247865

Lulu, that is a photo to give one NIGHTMARES!!!!!

Carla

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