New toy

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

My wife bought me a weather station for my birthday and Father's Day gifts combined; just $99 at WM and to think I was going to by one online for $159.

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Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

I hope it works better than the one I bought Butch from Cabella's for his last birthday. :-

Sun Lakes, AZ(Zone 9a)

I wonder if that "Rainfall Event" will ever say anything other than 0.00!

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

I can only hope. As I suspected, the temps at my house are higher than those shown on TheWeatherChannel.com, since they record in 85206, which is at a higher elevation than here.

Phoenix, AZ

Very cool gift!

Sun Lakes, AZ(Zone 9a)

Is your house the one with the flag of Germany? I just got back from a vacation there.

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

Yes, my family is from there and when we went on our Baltic cruise, I met my cousin in Rostock and he gave me the flag.

Sun Lakes, AZ(Zone 9a)

How great! My family is from the Stuttgart area, but I don't know anything about them. Nice you do. What cruise line did you use? Our tour was Globus German Highlights. We went to 15 cities in 11 days, but not up to the Baltic Sea area. We went to Berlin which is about 3 hours southeast from Rostock.

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

We were on Celebrity's 12 night Baltic Cruise starting and ending in Amsterdam, with port calls in Rostock/Warnemunde, Stockholm, Helsinki, St Petersburg, Tallin and Copenhagen. My cousin lives in Keil on the Baltic coast. My mother was from Frankfurt and my father was from Munich and they emigrated to Canada after WWII.

Fabens, TX(Zone 8a)

Very nice I have eyed them at WM several times, let us know how well it works.

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

So far it appears to be working very well and recorded the very disappointing storm we had with max winds of 14 MPH and no rain, but the humidity did get up to 35%; dew point only maxed at 50, which is 5 degrees below the old bellweather that used to signal the beginning of the monsoon.

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9a)

I don't really get the point of the change in the 'official' monsoon start. It seems silly to me. It's sort of like saying that it will rain every Tuesday, ignoring all evidence to the contrary. Does anyone know why it's changed?

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

For decades, the Weather Service marked the monsoon with a technical measurement. The monsoon began when the average daily dew point was 55 degrees or greater for three consecutive days. The season began on the first of those days.

Typically, that meant the first week of July.

But in 2008, the Weather Service decided to keep things simple. [Isn't that nice of the Weather Service? Always thinking we're all just a bunch of simpletons. :-| ] The Arizona monsoon season, it says, starts June 15 and ends Sept. 30.

The idea was that people were getting too hung up on figuring out when the season started and were not paying attention to the storms. Those can be quite dangerous, with high winds, lightning and some flash flooding.

So, the Weather Service put an end to all that and gave dates to the season.

"It's basically summer plus a week or two on either side," said Doug Green of the Weather Service.


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/15/20100615arizona-monsoon-season.html#ixzz1z0FnkmcF

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9a)

Considering that we're all simpletons, it is nice that the Weather Service is taking care of us. Whether it makes much sense or not. Why call it Monsoon season, why not just stick with Summer? Everyone already knows that summer in Phoenix is hot with dusty, windy, mostly dry, storms.

Crossville, TN

The first year they named June 15th as the start of Monsoon I wondered "Did they tell God"? They must have have conversed with Him as it DID rain that day here!! Was that 2 or 3 years ago? Jo

Sun Lakes, AZ(Zone 9a)

Thanks for the explanation MaryMcP! I wondered why they did it. I still think it is crazy and it should be the way it used to be.

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

I know Nancy, I agree.

Brian, who makes that weather station? The one I bought at Cabela's is "National Geographic" and when I realized it was not working properly I Googled it (better late than never???) and found lots of negative comments similar to our own issues. Maybe I'll get another one that actually works!!

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

Mary, it's made by Acu-Rite and I got it @ WM for $99 in the home improvement dept in the ceiling fan aisle.

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

Thanks. His birthday is coming around again, the way birthday's do. ;-)

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

Birthdays beat the alternative, don't they?

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9b)

You bet!

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

Well, the weather station is working out just fine and has recorded 1.03" of rain since I got it, most of that last Saturday from 3-4 PM. Also have noticed that the temp on Weather.com is seldom the same as here at my place, which is usually hotter.

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9a)

That's very interesting about the heat. We're always hotter than what is given as the temp. Strrrange.

Gilbert, AZ

Interesting about the temp - I thought the publish temp was from the airport, which I assumed would be hotter because of all the asphalt.

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

Actually, Weather.com uses a weather station in the 85206 zip code for Mesa, which is several miles east of me and therefore higher in elevation, hence cooler.

Mesa, AZ(Zone 9b)

Aside from changes in elevation, official temperature measurements like you find on the national weather service or weather.com are made in the shade. The weather station shown in the picture looks like it is mostly in full sun, which would probably add greatly to the disparity in temperatures. I think the reason for measuring in the shade is that it provides the 'real' air temperature, whereas measurements in direct sunlight are influenced by direct heating of the materials surrounding the thermometer and hence would cause the temperature to come out higher.

This article on USA Today explain it reasonably well:

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/askjack/2006-08-21-shade-temperature_x.htm

Lisle, IL(Zone 5a)

Interesting article, but since mine is an integrated weather station that also measures rain, placing it in the shade would give a false rain reading. The temperature reading is usually only a few degrees different that Weather.com, so I don't think its being in direct sunlight is making much difference.

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9a)

The temp sensor probably IS in the shade of the appliance itself.

I agree, my temp differences are small, but they are there. It depends so much on the micro-climate of one's own area. For instance, we tend to get very little rain right here, but fairly closely around us it will pour. It all depends on where you're sitting.

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