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frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2012
10:05 AM

Post #9180110

My wife bought me a weather station for my birthday and Father's Day gifts combined; just $99 at WM and to think I was going to by one online for $159.

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MaryMcP
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

June 25, 2012
11:26 AM

Post #9180261

I hope it works better than the one I bought Butch from Cabella's for his last birthday. :-\

NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 25, 2012
6:02 PM

Post #9180867

I wonder if that "Rainfall Event" will ever say anything other than 0.00!
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 25, 2012
6:18 PM

Post #9180897

I can only hope. As I suspected, the temps at my house are higher than those shown on TheWeatherChannel.com, since they record in 85206, which is at a higher elevation than here.

Fish_knees

Fish_knees
Phoenix, AZ

June 25, 2012
6:25 PM

Post #9180910

Very cool gift!

NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 25, 2012
9:44 PM

Post #9181253

Is your house the one with the flag of Germany? I just got back from a vacation there.
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 26, 2012
6:53 AM

Post #9181613

Yes, my family is from there and when we went on our Baltic cruise, I met my cousin in Rostock and he gave me the flag.

NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 26, 2012
11:50 AM

Post #9182085

How great! My family is from the Stuttgart area, but I don't know anything about them. Nice you do. What cruise line did you use? Our tour was Globus German Highlights. We went to 15 cities in 11 days, but not up to the Baltic Sea area. We went to Berlin which is about 3 hours southeast from Rostock.
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 26, 2012
2:14 PM

Post #9182310

We were on Celebrity's 12 night Baltic Cruise starting and ending in Amsterdam, with port calls in Rostock/Warnemunde, Stockholm, Helsinki, St Petersburg, Tallin and Copenhagen. My cousin lives in Keil on the Baltic coast. My mother was from Frankfurt and my father was from Munich and they emigrated to Canada after WWII.
Txtea
Fabens, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 26, 2012
5:17 PM

Post #9182551

Very nice I have eyed them at WM several times, let us know how well it works.
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 26, 2012
11:19 PM

Post #9182922

So far it appears to be working very well and recorded the very disappointing storm we had with max winds of 14 MPH and no rain, but the humidity did get up to 35%; dew point only maxed at 50, which is 5 degrees below the old bellweather that used to signal the beginning of the monsoon.
judyb
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 27, 2012
6:52 AM

Post #9183139

I don't really get the point of the change in the 'official' monsoon start. It seems silly to me. It's sort of like saying that it will rain every Tuesday, ignoring all evidence to the contrary. Does anyone know why it's changed?
MaryMcP
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

June 27, 2012
7:18 AM

Post #9183170

For decades, the Weather Service marked the monsoon with a technical measurement. The monsoon began when the average daily dew point was 55 degrees or greater for three consecutive days. The season began on the first of those days.

Typically, that meant the first week of July.

But in 2008, the Weather Service decided to keep things simple. [Isn't that nice of the Weather Service? Always thinking we're all just a bunch of simpletons. :-| ] The Arizona monsoon season, it says, starts June 15 and ends Sept. 30.

The idea was that people were getting too hung up on figuring out when the season started and were not paying attention to the storms. Those can be quite dangerous, with high winds, lightning and some flash flooding.

So, the Weather Service put an end to all that and gave dates to the season.

"It's basically summer plus a week or two on either side," said Doug Green of the Weather Service.


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/15/20100615arizona-monsoon-season.html#ixzz1z0FnkmcF
judyb
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 27, 2012
8:58 AM

Post #9183311

Considering that we're all simpletons, it is nice that the Weather Service is taking care of us. Whether it makes much sense or not. Why call it Monsoon season, why not just stick with Summer? Everyone already knows that summer in Phoenix is hot with dusty, windy, mostly dry, storms.
roadrunner
Hereford, AZ
(Zone 8a)

June 27, 2012
10:26 AM

Post #9183459

The first year they named June 15th as the start of Monsoon I wondered "Did they tell God"? They must have have conversed with Him as it DID rain that day here!! Was that 2 or 3 years ago? Jo

NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 27, 2012
10:48 AM

Post #9183484

Thanks for the explanation MaryMcP! I wondered why they did it. I still think it is crazy and it should be the way it used to be.
MaryMcP
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

June 27, 2012
11:56 AM

Post #9183567

I know Nancy, I agree.

Brian, who makes that weather station? The one I bought at Cabela's is "National Geographic" and when I realized it was not working properly I Googled it (better late than never???) and found lots of negative comments similar to our own issues. Maybe I'll get another one that actually works!!
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 27, 2012
12:52 PM

Post #9183633

Mary, it's made by Acu-Rite and I got it @ WM for $99 in the home improvement dept in the ceiling fan aisle.
MaryMcP
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

June 27, 2012
1:39 PM

Post #9183678

Thanks. His birthday is coming around again, the way birthday's do. ;-)
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

June 27, 2012
4:07 PM

Post #9183829

Birthdays beat the alternative, don't they?
MaryMcP
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

June 27, 2012
4:12 PM

Post #9183833

You bet!
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2012
9:50 AM

Post #9213364

Well, the weather station is working out just fine and has recorded 1.03" of rain since I got it, most of that last Saturday from 3-4 PM. Also have noticed that the temp on Weather.com is seldom the same as here at my place, which is usually hotter.
judyb
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9a)

July 21, 2012
3:16 PM

Post #9213644

That's very interesting about the heat. We're always hotter than what is given as the temp. Strrrange.
Crista
Gilbert, AZ

July 22, 2012
5:51 PM

Post #9214921

Interesting about the temp - I thought the publish temp was from the airport, which I assumed would be hotter because of all the asphalt.
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2012
6:58 AM

Post #9215449

Actually, Weather.com uses a weather station in the 85206 zip code for Mesa, which is several miles east of me and therefore higher in elevation, hence cooler.
mcvansoest
Mesa, AZ
(Zone 9b)

July 24, 2012
8:29 AM

Post #9216822

Aside from changes in elevation, official temperature measurements like you find on the national weather service or weather.com are made in the shade. The weather station shown in the picture looks like it is mostly in full sun, which would probably add greatly to the disparity in temperatures. I think the reason for measuring in the shade is that it provides the 'real' air temperature, whereas measurements in direct sunlight are influenced by direct heating of the materials surrounding the thermometer and hence would cause the temperature to come out higher.

This article on USA Today explain it reasonably well:

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/askjack/2006-08-21-shade-temperature_x.htm
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 24, 2012
12:31 PM

Post #9217049

Interesting article, but since mine is an integrated weather station that also measures rain, placing it in the shade would give a false rain reading. The temperature reading is usually only a few degrees different that Weather.com, so I don't think its being in direct sunlight is making much difference.
judyb
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9a)

July 25, 2012
6:31 AM

Post #9217839

The temp sensor probably IS in the shade of the appliance itself.

I agree, my temp differences are small, but they are there. It depends so much on the micro-climate of one's own area. For instance, we tend to get very little rain right here, but fairly closely around us it will pour. It all depends on where you're sitting.

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