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smiller1988
Churchville, PA

June 26, 2012
9:52 AM

Post #9181898

I have a pepper garden consiting of cayenne peppers, banana peppers, jalapenos, and various bell pepper plants.

The cayenne peppers are not turning red. They developed brown growth lines and showed no sign of changing to red even though they are past their harvest date.

The banana peppers are also showing no signs of turning red

The bell peppers are rotting (see picture). The colored bell peppers such as yellow bell peppers have turned black and have been for over two weeks and show no sign of changing to yellow.

Overall I am not seeing the necessary color changes in my peppers. And I have the issue seen in the picture with almost all of my green bell peppers.

I water the plants every day...can anyone help?!?

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urbanveggies412
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

June 26, 2012
1:13 PM

Post #9182215

I may be wrong but I believe pepper plants like to have dry periods in between waterings. Maybe this is only for spicy varieties though... Anyone else?
sweetie77
Kankakee, IL
(Zone 5b)

June 26, 2012
11:35 PM

Post #9182925

I would like to know too! This has happened to me in the past. I know overwatering and over fertilizing can cause problems in peppers.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

June 27, 2012
7:20 AM

Post #9183174

Peppers can get some of the same types of fungus as tomatoes get. Google and read up on "Blossom End Rot" (BER).

Not suggesting that's what you have, but good information to have in your toolbelt(s). I had that same yucky stuff on peppers I grew last season. I added some dolomitic lime to the soil and watered it in well. It seemed to stop the fruit deterioration.

Not saying that's what you have, but...just fyi...

Linda

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

June 27, 2012
4:54 PM

Post #9183886

At first glance I thought sunburn, but the pic was sideways :) It's BER. Pick the pepper now, cut off the bad part and enjoy eating it.

Peppers take time(sometimes a lot of time) to change color. DTM is useless...it's just a general guesstimate.
sweetie77
Kankakee, IL
(Zone 5b)

June 27, 2012
9:36 PM

Post #9184241

This isn't the end... is it still BER?

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Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

June 28, 2012
4:49 PM

Post #9185297

Ah, not only at the blossom end. Sunscald... take a look at some of these pics [HYPERLINK@www.google.com]
sweetie77
Kankakee, IL
(Zone 5b)

June 28, 2012
9:22 PM

Post #9185654

Yep! That's it. Now what to do about it...

Thanks so much!

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

June 29, 2012
7:59 AM

Post #9186018

Ray_Der_Phan
very smart answer. I never thought about sunscald on peppers.

sweetie77
here in Dallas I found out that my pepper do so much better if they are growing under afternoon shade.
I have planted this year on the bottom of my veggie patch and they are getting some afternoon shade by a large oak tree.
I think they are doing so much better than in full sun all day long. Actually for the first time I am harvesting really thick skin peppers.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

June 29, 2012
9:14 AM

Post #9186110

Yep, that's what I had on mine, too!

Thanks, Ray!
jannz2
Pilot Point, TX
(Zone 7b)

June 30, 2012
3:43 PM

Post #9187904

Yup... that's what my peppers did too. I'll know to plant where they can get some afternoon shade next time. Thanks for posting that link.

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

June 30, 2012
4:16 PM

Post #9187947

Wow, never knew so many had problems with sunscald. I see it only once or twice a year on taller growing pepper plants, but sounds like you all are seeing it more often. Definitely sounds like a shade cloth, or moving them out of the sun (at it's peak of the day) for a hour or 2 would help in your areas.
SusanKC
Shawnee Mission, KS
(Zone 6a)

July 1, 2012
8:33 AM

Post #9188631

smiller - Looks like there is a mineral deficiency or hogh ph on the plant at the back left side of the photo. Usually that's what it is if you have leaves where the veins are a darker green than the rest of the leave.
urbanveggies412
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

July 2, 2012
6:18 AM

Post #9189640

Just checked the garden and I also have some of this on some peppers.
Trigsgarden
Fort Worth, TX

July 16, 2012
5:42 PM

Post #9207888

wow, my banana peppers had sun-scald also and I could not figure out what was wrong with them ... thanks for the info ray!

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

July 16, 2012
6:34 PM

Post #9207971

Pepper plants like to be planted close to the point of their leaves start overlapping other pepper leaves, and vice versa. For me, they grow best as a small pepper jungle. They all hold each other up, while sharing their shade.

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2012
7:15 AM

Post #9208564

Ray_Der_Phan,
you are right.
When I am transplanting pepper plants outside I think :
"PEPPERS LIKE TO HOLD HANDS"
ticollins
Sioux Falls, SD

July 18, 2012
7:27 AM

Post #9209999

Do you think they have some type of fungus on them?

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 18, 2012
8:14 AM

Post #9210053

Ray_Der_Phan - that's interesting. Sounds as though peppers would be better sown in blocks rather than in rows. I'll give that a try. Now that we've had some rain, the sweet peppers have picked up.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 18, 2012
8:42 AM

Post #9210088

My peppers are getting tall and lush. They were planted in a "block," and are holding hands. Only one bell to date, but several others are making little china balls, and even more have blooms.

Problem is, I forgot NOT to fertilize! After all this record rain we've had, I figured I'd better put some nutrients back into the soil...duh...

The GOOD news is, they haven't really cranked up yet, there's lots more heat ahead, and at least some of the kelp and fish emulsion I poured on got washed out with yet another rain. So, recovery may be in sight...I truly want/need a bumper crop of bell peppers!

Linda

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

July 18, 2012
2:49 PM

Post #9210443

Yeah, blocks are better than rows for me. I also think peppers do better in containers than in the ground. One of the reasons I like Self-Watering Containers(Earthbox and the like) for peppers(only 3-4 plants per if you want large peppers). They form a mini jungle and hold each other up. I also like to mix together peppers that have different growing styles. However, If you want to save seeds...this wouldn't be a good way to grow them.

Here's a few pics(some I posted before). But gives you an idea of the entangled support they do for each other. Not only do they "hold hands" they sometimes put an arm or two around each other. Pepper orgy?

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susangarden
Tampa, FL

July 18, 2012
4:53 PM

Post #9210582

My Banana Peppers are coming out stunted and brown/green. The newest leaves are curling lenghthwise. What's going on here?

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
6:18 AM

Post #9211136

Ray_Der_Phan - what is the smallest sized pot (in gallons) you would recommend for growing peppers? I've tried growing them in pots without success, but I suspect the pots were too small.

I can see the advantage of growing them in pots and then placing them close together. Roots don't compete for space, and tops protect each other from the sun.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 19, 2012
7:08 AM

Post #9211215

You didn't ask me, but, I've grown them in 5-gallon buckets...I wouldn't go smaller than that...Just sayin...

HUGS!

Ray_Der_Phan

Ray_Der_Phan
Oceanside, CA
(Zone 10a)

July 19, 2012
8:46 AM

Post #9211325

HoneybeeNC wrote:Ray_Der_Phan - what is the smallest sized pot (in gallons) you would recommend for growing peppers? I've tried growing them in pots without success, but I suspect the pots were too small.

I can see the advantage of growing them in pots and then placing them close together. Roots don't compete for space, and tops protect each other from the sun.


Bee, that's exactly right about peppers grown in containers. Roots have their own space, but the tops are free to mingle with other plants. Also, easier to feed those that need feeding.

I use 4 gallon regular nursery pots(some are 3.75 gallon but most are 4.1 gallon). That's plenty for a pepper plant to mature and get multiple harvests from.



This message was edited Jul 19, 2012 8:47 AM

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
11:26 AM

Post #9211474

Thanks Gymgirl and Ray,

I have seven gallon pots, so I'll try sweet peppers in some of those next summer.

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