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stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 1, 2012
8:30 AM

Post #9188627

Tennessee Coneflowers

Passiflora Foetida

May Night Salvia

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 1, 2012
8:36 AM

Post #9188634

Love these black eyed susans!

Katie's blue ruellia
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 1, 2012
12:59 PM

Post #9188862

What conditions do you have that salvia in? I tried to grow it twice and it never did much for me. Its such an intense blue!
C

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 1, 2012
3:06 PM

Post #9188987

stephanie - Your flowers are just so pretty. Does the Passiflora demand shade?

Crape Myrtles

African Daisies amidst Sweet Potato Vine

My first Dahlia bloom

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 1, 2012
10:31 PM

Post #9189410

Morgan...no on the passi needing shade. I have that one in full sun until about 4pm and it grows like crazy.
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 2, 2012
12:08 AM

Post #9189445

Rain has knocked off a lot of blooms in last few days but here are a few July blooms. butterfly ginger, plumeria,brugmansia, white duranta, Himalayan marigolds

This message was edited Jul 2, 2012 2:10 AM
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 2, 2012
5:39 AM

Post #9189591

I haven't heard of cosmos being called himalyan marigolds, I learned a new common name. The plumeria is pretty does it smell nice?
C

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 2, 2012
4:24 PM

Post #9190443

Cheryl, I have this salvia growing in a full sun bed. It doesn't get a lot of water, but I do water every 2-3 days or so.

Morgan, the passi grows in full hot sun. It gets a bit of shade from a big oak tree across the driveway in the early morning, but after that, it's in full sun. The flowers close up around noon.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 2, 2012
4:54 PM

Post #9190470

Thanks, I love the flowers on the Passiflora, maybe will think about getting one now.

Steadycam - I am envious of all the rain you got down there. We got a bit...would like more. And we have the same color Plumeria!!! I swear they smell like buttered popcorn! Go figure.


These are Sweet Almond blooms...will smell up a large part of yard...with a Bee.

Tangerine Esperanza

More Zinnia buddies
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 2, 2012
8:26 PM

Post #9190726

Cheryl, I dont think these things are cosmos. they get 8 feet tall. The bloom is similar but the plant is quite different. My neighbor has cosmos, orange but they are different. I got these seeds from a trade years ago. The seeds dont look like cosmo seeds either. And, yes, Cheryl, the plumeria smells heavenly but not like popcorn to me. They are the lei flowers in Hawaii and I cant say what the fragrance reminds me of.

This message was edited Jul 2, 2012 10:49 PM
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 2, 2012
9:21 PM

Post #9190751

Tagetes patula
Ok different plant. Sounds interesting and I might buy some seed for it.
C
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 2, 2012
9:55 PM

Post #9190767

Cheryl, please dont buy seeds. I will mail you plenty. Just Dmail me your address.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 4, 2012
3:35 PM

Post #9193116

Thank you steady for the offer but I have so many seeds right now that I really have to do some research before I decide on new plants.
Not a flower yet but heading skyward. My flower stalks were not as tall as I thought they would be last year and maybe this years crop will be more typical.

That little flower is a red dome blanket flower.

This message was edited Jul 4, 2012 4:37 PM
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 4, 2012
3:41 PM

Post #9193126

I am in love with some native annuals even though starting them from seed is time consuming. This drummond phlox is still in bloom. My other love is Coreopsis basalis.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 4, 2012
4:00 PM

Post #9193159

Mex. hat

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 4, 2012
10:11 PM

Post #9193481

Love the Phlox...after seeing everyone else's I finally bought some...hope I got the right kind. The nursery had 5 different kinds, so I bought one of each...hopefully they are all perennial.

Phlox

Hibiscus

Mums
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 5, 2012
12:52 PM

Post #9194171

I had never researched the name of the flowers the DG member sent me in a seed exchange. Cheryl, I think you are correct that these are indeed, Cosmos. I have no idea why mine are 8 feet tall and the guide says 24 to 36 inches. My neighbor's cosmos are in that short height range. The leaves on mine are much more numerous and larger than my neighbor's and mine much closer together on the stem. The seeds are slightly different but in the same ballpark. I looked at every type of marigold I could find and nothing matches better than the Cosmos. I even looked at swamp marigolds and marsh marigolds. So cosmos they are until I find otherwise. Thanks for the impetus you gave me to look them up.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 5, 2012
1:41 PM

Post #9194249

Orange cosmos simply do not get that tall. Is the plant you have in the picture over 31/2 feet? There are some tall marigolds, I looked them up too.
C

http://www.anniesannuals.com/plt_lst/lists/general/lst.gen.asp?prodid=658
that site says 4-5 feet

This message was edited Jul 5, 2012 2:43 PM
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 5, 2012
2:08 PM

Post #9194294

The plant in the photo I posted is the top of an 8 foot tall plant that fell over which is what all of these plants do. I tried staking them and the limbs split off and fall. I guess the stems which are 2" diameter are too weak to support the branches. I tried pinching to make a stronger, more compact plant that might withstand the rain and wind but they still did not bloom until they were orver 5 feet.When they fall over, if the stem touches the soil, they root so I have cut these off and moved them which extended the life of the plant to some degree. They look nothing like Gina's which I found on research also.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 6, 2012
8:34 AM

Post #9195219

Phlox - Pink

Cosmos - Bright Lights...and they do get 5 feet sometimes

Hyacinth Bean flower

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 6, 2012
8:59 PM

Post #9196018

My first sunflower ever!

Butterflies on my West Texas mistflower

Katie's Blue ruellia and Black eyed Susans.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 7, 2012
7:20 AM

Post #9196340

Great Sunflower...did you plant or is it a volunteer?
Nice color combo of Katie and Susans.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 7, 2012
7:26 AM

Post #9196351

Our Milkweed is doing wonderful this year.

Esperanza still going strong

And all the Crape Myrtle just makes me smile. :-))

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 7, 2012
5:40 PM

Post #9197105

Morgan, I grew the sunflower from seed. So easy to grow! I'm thinking of planting more to have for the fall. This particular variety doesn't get a really large flower head, but they do have several blooms on a stalk. The tallest one I have is probably about 6' tall. I have them staked on some bamboo stalks. The color isn't as deep a golden yellow as some, but it's still pretty.

Here it is today fully opened. In the second pic you can see more buds. The third pic is another sunflower opening on another stalk.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 7, 2012
7:39 PM

Post #9197248

stephanie - the color is what I noticed first about it...I LOVE the softer yellow. Would they bloom before a freeze if you planted from seed now? I might go get some seed if so. Sunflowers are such happy blooms!! :-))

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 7, 2012
7:55 PM

Post #9197270

Since I didn't write down when I planted these, I can't tell you how long it took them to flower, but I want to say it's not been more than 3 months because I planted them late. (Story of my life!) If you planted within the next week, I'd bet they'd do well.

rouxcrew

rouxcrew
(Joy) Hempstead, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 8, 2012
3:02 PM

Post #9198035

Marty, those marigolds look like my heirloom ones from my grandmother's garden. Mine can get very tall as well and as the weather changes so does the intensity of the bloom color. Right now I have one that has yellow, orange and some orange with a darker orange stripe all on the same plant. All the blooms that formed when we were over 100 are yellow and the later ones are coming in dark orange again.

Joy
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 8, 2012
4:29 PM

Post #9198143

The plant in the foregroung pic looks like a cosmos, not a marigold. The one in the back is a marigold.

rouxcrew

rouxcrew
(Joy) Hempstead, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 8, 2012
6:00 PM

Post #9198209

They are the same plant. My grandmother always called them marigolds which is why I call them that. They were the only single one she had in her garden. I'm not going to argue, they can be a cosmos or whatever they like because they bloom profusely and withstand the heat.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 8, 2012
6:19 PM

Post #9198244

In Mass. I always grew cosmos--there are lots of different cultivars, some extra-tall, some extra-short, some double, some pink, some orange, some early, some late, etc. And it grows differently depending on soil, water, everything of course.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 9, 2012
9:08 AM

Post #9199004

rouxcrew - I'm with you...if it can bloom all season and not croak in our heat, I don't care what it's called...I call it good!!!

Our Lakeside Jasmine burst into bloom overnight and Everybody came to play with it.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2012
11:12 AM

Post #9199169

Beautiful, Morgan!

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2012
1:21 PM

Post #9199318

Nice flowers, nice photos--really nice!

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 9, 2012
3:18 PM

Post #9199451

That little Hummingbird Moth was moving so fast from flower to flower that I just stood there there clicking the camera. Got lots of blur and lots of nothing. But I swear I got one where it looks like it has feathers!!!
It's little head isn't showing, but look at the body.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2012
6:51 PM

Post #9199689

They are amazing creatures!!!

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 11, 2012
8:30 AM

Post #9201528

Yesterday all the blooms on the Jasmine were covered with Bees! You could hear it from 10 feet away!

Then I walked around the corner to our Crape Myrtle and the Bees were just swarming it.
I like how the pollen is different colors from different plants.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 11, 2012
8:36 AM

Post #9201542

The Turk's Cap just keeps on keeping on. The hotter it gets, the more it blooms.

The blooms on the rock rose are so bright and cheerful. I love seeing them when I look out the window over my sink.

My Scaboisa is also continuing to bloom. The blooms are smaller than in the spring, but it keeps on going. It must be happy in its new location.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 11, 2012
8:42 AM

Post #9201553

The butterflies love the West Texas Mistflower!

I absolutely LOVE the flowers of the passiflora foetida. Such a pretty pink and so prolific!

My flame acanthus is starting to bloom.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 11, 2012
8:46 AM

Post #9201561

Lastly, for today (and for Morgan), the sunflowers just keep cranking out the flowers.

The ladder is 6' tall and the tallest of the sunflowers (in the middle) is at least 2' taller than the ladder. Not sure why they all didn't get the same height, but I have a feeling it has something to do with the amount of light received.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 11, 2012
9:48 AM

Post #9201630

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the color of the Sunflowers. And they are huge! Awesome.

You have so many flowers stephanie that we don't have...I'm going to have to go shopping again :-))

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 11, 2012
7:59 PM

Post #9202193

Morgan, almost all of the plants that I have I acquired through trades with DGers.

Loonie1

Loonie1
Rowlett, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 13, 2012
9:21 AM

Post #9203837

I love your sunflowers, Stephanie. Beautiful! The squirrels got all of mine this year ... grrrrrrrr!

Carla
lepfarmer
Red Oak, TX

July 14, 2012
4:42 PM

Post #9205330

MorganC, that's a Titan Sphinx (Aellopos titan) that you've got there. And I know exactly what you mean about how fast they are! You've got some nice pics. They are incredibly fast and never sit still for long at all.

Dale Clark
Dallas County Lepidopterists' Society
http://www.dallasbutterflies.com
Txtea
Fabens, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 14, 2012
8:23 PM

Post #9205474

Stephanietx, did you start your Turks's Cap from seed?
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 15, 2012
7:05 AM

Post #9205731

Turks cap is pretty easy to find, big box stores sell them.
C

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2012
8:10 AM

Post #9205804

I usually pot up the seedlings that come up around the parent plants, or pot up plants that get too big or out of bounds,
never have to start new from seed.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2012
9:19 AM

Post #9205875

tx-this one I started from a cutting taken from my dad's neighbor's bush. I grew up next door to them and they have several native plants in their yard. (The lady was my Girl Scout leader for about 6 years!) She and her husband generously welcomed me to take cuttings. I have had several volunteers from this plant and usually find them early spring or even in the fall in other places in my yard thanks to the birds.

Even the butterflies are enjoying the sunflowers!

My petunias from Josephine are starting to bloom.

The first Cowpen Daisy bloom of the year. I really love these happy flowers.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 15, 2012
4:33 PM

Post #9206326

stephanie - do you know what kind of Daisy this is? It doesn't look like yours. I only bought it to go in the yellow and blue pot...it looks good in it when blooming.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2012
7:46 PM

Post #9206547

No idea, but it's really pretty!

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2012
11:46 AM

Post #9211505

This was a delightful sight in my flower bed this morning!

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 19, 2012
1:33 PM

Post #9211622

Yes, the Queen butterflies are beautiful.

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2012
6:05 PM

Post #9212832

Dale just posted a shot of the Queens hanging out for the night on the Daily bf photo thread.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=9211507 There is a lot of the Queens around, looking promising.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2012
8:35 AM

Post #9214296

The (dis)Obedient plants have started blooming. They're so tall this year! In this spot, they're actually very well behaved.

My TCU purple tall Mexican Petunias are still doing well. They do well in the heavily shaded side driveway.

I have a sunflower bouquet in the backyard veggie garden this morning. So pretty to see above the okra and tomato plants. I planted some Mammoth Gray Stripe sunflower seeds a week ago. They've all germinated except 2! I transplanted one seedling this morning into a spot where none had germinated. I think that's pretty good considering that the seeds were 2 years old. I received them from Michael at a fall RU.

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2012
2:16 PM

Post #9214731

If you need some white petunia in with your TCU ones, I have them. I see your foetita passi isn't being eaten by the Gulf Frits...mine isn't either and I will have to cut it back before long if they don't start!

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2012
5:07 PM

Post #9214885

I think the wasps have been frequenting the passi. I've seen the gulf frit flittering, but not much since it's been so warm.
lepfarmer
Red Oak, TX

July 25, 2012
2:21 PM

Post #9218441

This is Mexican Passionvine (Passiflora mexicana). I'd searched for a plant to buy for years and finally found one. The blooms, while beautiful, smell like napthalene/moth balls.

Dale Clark
Dallas County Lepidopterists' Society
http://www.dallasbutterflies.com

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2012
2:31 PM

Post #9218455

Wow! that is really neat Dale, I hope it will do well for you.
Josephine.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2012
7:46 PM

Post #9218845

What a pretty bloom!!

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 26, 2012
11:06 AM

Post #9219450

Dale - great looking flower...don't know if I would want the smell though!

stephanie - I so love your sunflowers...do they look almost chartreuse in person?

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 26, 2012
11:12 AM

Post #9219457

Morgan, some do and some are a soft butter yellow. Did you get your seeds planted?

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2012
5:31 AM

Post #9221190

Nice plant Dale!
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

July 28, 2012
1:10 PM

Post #9221613

Its the best I could do.:)

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2012
1:55 PM

Post #9221639

Nice Obedient plants Sylvia.
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

July 28, 2012
10:10 PM

Post #9222044

Thanks Jo! This plant has so many names Obedient Plant, Dragon Flower, Come Again and something else. I did not know what to call it. Linda saw it and told me to save her some seeds. Are you kidding, I asked her? This plant is a runner its everywhere! Also Jo, I just remembered what that other stuff is out there, I think its the Golden Rod you gave me. When does it flower? I haven't see it flower in years, because the yard man had been cutting it down. I am going to block it off tomorrow :)!

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 29, 2012
8:54 AM

Post #9222334

Goldenrod blooms in the fall, it is very pretty, the bees and butterflies love it.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 29, 2012
9:20 AM

Post #9222373

I love obedient plant!
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

July 29, 2012
1:34 PM

Post #9222647

Stephanie you can come and dig up some Obedient plant anytime. lol
Jo it blooms in the fall? I dont remember that. Well now that its blocked off from the yard man now I will be able to see it. :)

Do anyone have an idea of what this plant is? It gets mowed down every year and it comes back.
bananna18
Colleyville, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 29, 2012
3:34 PM

Post #9222787

I have a dwarf version that just finished blooming...then got all rusty. Yuck, I trimmed it severely.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 29, 2012
4:22 PM

Post #9222856

stephanie - No seeds planted yet...had out of towner friends here...played in pool for a week!

Our lovely Milkweed plant is being stripped by soon to be Monarch Butterflies.

A Dahlia here and there

rouxcrew

rouxcrew
(Joy) Hempstead, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 31, 2012
11:24 AM

Post #9224923

Thought I would jump in at the end of the month with my neatest surprise, a couple green zinnias. Earlier this year I cast a bunch of seeds that had been moldering in a drawer for ages. So far these are the only hint of any of them. I know this because I have never even seen lime green zinnias in real life.
Also my daisies from the RU are really attracting black swallowtails. I am truly in love with them, the daisies that is, can't remember who gave the one to me but thanks again!!!!!

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 1, 2012
10:26 PM

Post #9226703

rouxcrew - I love the green ones too. I found a place that sells both kinds of Zinnia seeds in green...I think they are called Green Envy.

rouxcrew

rouxcrew
(Joy) Hempstead, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 2, 2012
5:40 AM

Post #9226842

Where Morgan? I would love to have some for next year in case these don't reseed

They have opened up better now and practically glow.
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

August 2, 2012
11:08 AM

Post #9227191

Have you guys ever tried sowing zinnia seeds in the same spot every year? I was told they dont come up. I am wondering if this is what happening to me.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 2, 2012
12:29 PM

Post #9227273

Don't believe everything you hear Sylvia, we have been putting Zinnias in the same stretch of ground for 5 years and they come up fine.

rouxcrew - try these folks. http://vandykezinnias.co/vandykezinnias.html
They seem to be into alot of different stuff, but I just ignore all that and buy their Zin seeds.

BajaBlue

BajaBlue
Rancho Santa Rita, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2012
2:09 PM

Post #9228500

There are several different varieties of green zinnias.

Mirgan how big is tht yellow daisy of yours?

Is the foliage ferncy ?

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 3, 2012
3:34 PM

Post #9228587

Baja - This yellow daisy?? The bloom is maybe 2 inches across...and no, I wouldn't say the leaves are fern like.

rouxcrew

rouxcrew
(Joy) Hempstead, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 3, 2012
4:55 PM

Post #9228665

Baja, are you talking about my yellow daisies? If so, they are lowly cowpen daisies that I got from the RU in Burleson this spring. Awesome flowers, haven't stopped growing or blooming since I planted them.

No they don't have fern foliage.

Joy

BajaBlue

BajaBlue
Rancho Santa Rita, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 4, 2012
3:24 PM

Post #9229633

morganc, yours is marguerite

Joy, sent you a dmail about a month ago
Did you receive ?
sybram
Burleson, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 4, 2012
4:01 PM

Post #9229664

Oh Stephanie, your things are just so beautiful.

A little advice please. I transplanted my Passiflora to get it in more sun. It hasn't bloomed yet. Is that common for the first year? It has always bloomed some, but there were so many little pods that didn't open that I thought it needed more sun. I'm not really sure it even gets enough now. It was on the west, mostly shaded side of the house. Now it's on the SE side, but amongst the cannas and datura. It seems to be healthy, but just not blooming.
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

August 5, 2012
12:06 PM

Post #9230425

I have the same problem Sybram. I tried more water and I got a few blooms and hundreds of buds that dry up. Someone told me to put some phosphorus on it.
I chopped it down when it got ugly, now its coming back with a vengeance.

stephanietx

stephanietx
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 6, 2012
9:29 AM

Post #9231605

Sybil, my passi didn't bloom until late fall the first year I had it, so I wouldn't really worry about it. As long as it continues to grow and establish a good root system, it'll come back next year with a vengeance and you'll have tons of blooms.
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

August 6, 2012
7:58 PM

Post #9232460

I hope so Stephanie ... I hope so.

morganc

morganc
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 7, 2012
8:10 AM

Post #9232915

Thanks rouxcrew - now I can look up how big it will get!
sybram
Burleson, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 8, 2012
5:48 AM

Post #9233953

I was hoping tht would be the case, Stephanie. I'm still watering it, and it looks pretty good, considering everything.
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

August 10, 2012
6:28 AM

Post #9236518

steadycam3 wrote:Cheryl, I dont think these things are cosmos. they get 8 feet tall. The bloom is similar but the plant is quite different. My neighbor has cosmos, orange but they are different. I got these seeds from a trade years ago. The seeds dont look like cosmo seeds either. And, yes, Cheryl, the plumeria smells heavenly but not like popcorn to me. They are the lei flowers in Hawaii and I cant say what the fragrance reminds me of.

This message was edited Jul 2, 2012 10:49 PM


They grow wild in the Himalayas. The British took them and the Cosmos you see now days was bred from them.
Regards.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 12, 2012
12:47 PM

Post #9239028

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos_bipinnatus

I believe the cosmos in question were from Mexico. :-)
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 12, 2012
3:41 PM

Post #9239208

No, Carrie, they were given to me as seeds labelled, Himalayan Marigolds.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 17, 2012
10:29 AM

Post #9244645

Steady, I was responding to the comment "the British took them and the Cosmos you see now days was bred from them," because I do not think the heritage of garden cosmos is from Asia but rather from Mexico. I cannot comment on your yellowy-orange very tall flowers--I had totally lost track of that part of the thread! I was only responding to the comment about Cosmos being from the Himalayans.
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2012
3:15 PM

Post #9244914

Oh.OK. no prob.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

August 18, 2012
10:35 PM

Post #9246219

Cosmos sulphureus (Yellow Cosmos) - the species native to the Americas - is my favorite and the one I recommend you try if you have never grown cosmos.. Plants of yellow cosmos can range in height from 4 to 7 feet but the cultivated varieties such as 'Crest Red', 'Ladybird Dwarf Red', 'Ladybird Dwarf Gold', 'Ladybird Dwarf Orange', 'Ladybird Dwarf Lemon', and Yellow Cosmos - Klondyke Mix are not as tall.

The above is from Aggie Horticulture and explains the variation in height.
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

August 21, 2012
6:44 PM

Post #9249497


Maybe on the packet its marked Mexico but i wrote what i did after seeing them grow wild with my own eyes. Its a very old variety and they do catch a eye and require close up investigation. Should come over and look at the wild ancestors of modern day garden plants. :)
Regards.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 24, 2012
11:18 AM

Post #9252270

Since we can't do that, could you send a picture? It's all the sources online which say it was discovered in Mexico. Not just Wikipedia, but other places as well, like the Texas Agricultural Site and the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center in Texas. I read that it was introduced by the British, as you say, to Japan and the East. Couldn't it have escaped cultivation there, as so many other plants did under colonialism? (Lantana, for instance.)

http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=COPA12

I am not trying to start a fight, please understand! I am trying to figure this out.
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

August 31, 2012
4:11 AM

Post #9260129

I would love to post pics but so far I have not come across any thread concerning wild flowers, only garden variety. There should be a thread some where, if you could point me in the right direction. No hurry. The mountains are entering winter (will keep an eye open for winter flowers) so until the third month every thing will go into hibernation. The correct botanical names you all may have to provide but lets see if i can find the wild ancestor of the well known strawberry. Daisies, Cosmos, Lupins, Magnolias, Rhododendrons, Ferns, Mosses, Lichens, etc but as it is all a kind of general collection of plants, for example Euphorbias (ours), Rihpsalis (ours). These tangents seem to lead to all corners. So, to keep confusion at bay, a thread is required.
Seems like a start of a new adventure never considered by me when i stepped in. It might be slow due to a damaged spine, lower body loses sensation at 50 kilometres so breaks are a must.
Regards.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 31, 2012
5:34 AM

Post #9260177

KAMasud, here is the forum for native plants and wild plants, I think your plants would fit there.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/wildplants/all/

Of course you can post a thread here any time, about the native plants from your area of the world.

Take care of yourself and let us know how it works out.

Josephine.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 2, 2012
3:28 PM

Post #9262644

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/tropics/all/


Here is a forum dedicated to gardeners in tropical zones, too, which you might enjoy. But as Josephine says, feel free to join this forum any time you like.
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

September 5, 2012
10:10 AM

Post #9265821

Thank you very much for your kind gesture. Lets be honest, i entered Marigolds in search and ended up on this forum. If there had been no tracking of past posts i would not even have found it again. When according to my arid climate i search for any thing, i seem to end up in Texas? That Cosmos caught my eye and the query. I will do as the both of you have so kindly suggested. Lets see. Any way, this part of the world cannot be called a tropical zone by any stretch of the imagination. We fry at 50 Celsius while our winters. now that is complicated. South, maybe 5 Celsius and the extreme North forget it, it never thaws. In my city garden (plateau) it is minus 4 Celsius and my half acre nursery minus 13 Celsius. Distance between the two is thirty kilometres.
Another requirement to be called tropical is humidity at near 100% while ours ranges normally below thirty. So, maybe Texas is same, i don't know.
Kind Regards.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 5, 2012
11:55 AM

Post #9265913

It surely sounds like you climate is very extreme, but your flowers are beautiful!!! Thank you for posting.
Congratulations!!
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

September 5, 2012
1:11 PM

Post #9266009

How kewl to be discussing plant with someone in Pakistan! Kam, your cactus blooms are stunning

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 5, 2012
3:39 PM

Post #9266150

Oh, I was the dope who suggested the tropical forum. There is a desert forum too... I will admit that I know about a million percent more about your climate after reading your post than I did before, meaning before I read it I knew nothing at all. Now I don't know much, but I know that you call it "arid." (50 C = 122 F for those people like me who don't remember the formula from 6th grade.) Welcome to Texas.

I have learned there are two cosmos, the one from South America that gave rise to our garden cosmos and another one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos_caudatus
There's your native Pakistani cosmos, right? Almost but not exactly the same as the one we have in seed packages.
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

September 8, 2012
6:21 PM

Post #9269352

LoL. Thank you for appreciating.
Yes, i suppose we could be fitted in a desert forum but there is a strange twist to our climate. We have the Monsoons, when it never rains but it pours. 100% humidity levels are reached in the rainy season. July and August are wet. I cannot call any Himalayan plant as native Pakistani either. China, India, Nepal, Sikkim, Tibet, etc the Himalayas belongs to them also. So naming them Pakistani is a bit dishonest. The bio diversity belongs to humanity not to one single race or creed. As to what happened to the wild Cosmos, Daisy, etc i think we need to take a peek into colonial history and what were the gardeners and botanists of that period up to. Their attempts at hybridisation must be a part of botanical history. Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew should have it somewhere in their archives.
Regards.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 8, 2012
7:24 PM

Post #9269399

Beautiful flowers KAMasud!!!
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

September 9, 2012
3:10 PM

Post #9270074

Hi, Masud, Sooo lovely! Is it an artefact of the medium or is the Datura blossom really pink?
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

September 11, 2012
8:13 AM

Post #9271900

Thank you very much both, that blossom is really a light to medium pink and smells awful. A pungent, sour smell. Just to show you what this area looks like i will post a pic. Being the foothills of the Himalayas which you can see in the background ( Himalayas sprawls for hundreds of miles across several countries, mine is the NW'st quadrant where the Hindu Khush and Himalayas meet at the Pamirs).
What you will see are miles and miles of Black sally (Acacia modesta), a vital habitat for endangered species. Phulai in local dialect. Pomegernates and Rangoon vine.
Regards.

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 11, 2012
1:25 PM

Post #9272142

Beautiful country Masud!!!.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 12, 2012
2:21 PM

Post #9273298

Wow, so different! That humidity would be great for plants but must be hard for people!
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

September 14, 2012
9:12 PM

Post #9275644


Yes its a beautiful part of the world. I cant agree to country because its shared by other countries also. You should visit Nepal which is at peace (with it self) and explore the Himalayas, maybe go see what grows at the base of the worlds tallest mountain.
Humidity. Normally its below 30% except during Monsoons but we are not a tropical country. Try Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Indonesia if you like 100% all year long but they have a up side also. May have 100% moisture but there max/min temp ranges between 28c to 32c year round. Now, those are ideal growing conditions. We are arid and only thorns seem to grow here and thorns have a beauty of their own. :).
As this thread starts with Passiflora, let me show you two first season vines having a good time.
Regards.
Masud.

Passiflora mixed with Clrodendron.

Grape out of control.

Morning Glory showing me its teeth.

Last one is a NOID for me.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 30, 2012
12:04 PM

Post #9320298

More than anybody wants to know about cosmos:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/3904/

frostweed

frostweed
Josephine, Arlington, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 30, 2012
12:35 PM

Post #9320320

A very lovely article as usual Carrie, Thank you very much.
Josephine.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 30, 2012
2:44 PM

Post #9320421

Oh, you're welcome, Josephine. I was mostly thinking of our friend from Pakistan! Things like that will start me researching and asking questions and next thing you know ... out it comes the other end, so to speak. (Not a lovely image. Sorry.)
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

October 31, 2012
12:35 AM

Post #9320781

LoL.
1)Clematis vitalba.
2)Mirabilis jalapa
3)Mirabilis jalapa
4)Salvia aegyptiaca.
5)Salvia ???
These are all growing in the wild and i can't lay claim to any that they belong to this part of the world. Marvel of Peru?
Our climate matches thats why i end up in Texas but other things can also be grown or will grow if it finds the proper niche system it likes.
Regards,
Masud.
KAMasud
Rawalpindi
Pakistan
(Zone 9a)

November 4, 2012
5:29 AM

Post #9324174

Enjoy the glow which brought me here in the first place.
Regards,
Masud.
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

November 4, 2012
6:08 PM

Post #9324704

This is soooo beautiful! Thanks for sharing.

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