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JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 4, 2012
12:50 PM

Post #9192935

It's Charleston, SC, it's the Fourth of July, and no surprise, it's waaay too hot. A few natives in my garden seem to bloom with indifference to the killing temperatures. Here's one I'm enjoying now...and for many weeks to come: Smooth Oxeye, Helianthus helianthoides aka False Sunflower. What tough beauties are shrugging at the heat in your garden?

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poppop
forsyth, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 5, 2012
1:35 PM

Post #9194241

Butterfly Weed , asclepias tuberosa ,and some of its hybrids .

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

July 6, 2012
7:13 PM

Post #9195924

All the milkweeds...and goldenrod, ironweed, and all the native asters that I can't name.
l6blue
Coon Rapids, MN
(Zone 4b)

July 7, 2012
5:40 AM

Post #9196213

Asters, Liatris, Monarda, Echinacea.

greenthumb99

greenthumb99
Lucketts, VA
(Zone 7a)

July 7, 2012
2:34 PM

Post #9196885

Our faux winter this year along with an early spring and summer from Hell has resulted in abnormal growth of a number of the natives I grow.

My Tall Bellflower – Campanulastrum americana is displaying a dense flower spike more like a 5 foot tall Campanula glomerata.

My Downy Skullcap – Scutellaria incana that normally grows 30 to 36 inches tall is just starting to bloom at nearly 6 feet.

The Short-Toothed Mt. Mint – Pycnanthemum muticum is reaching 4 feet instead of 3.

Naked-Flowered Tick-Trefoil – Desmodium nudiflorum is noticeably more floriferous than usual, and taller.

Downy Rattlesnake-Plantain – Goodyera pubescens doing well despite the weather.

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JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 7, 2012
3:20 PM

Post #9196948

WOW! Greenthumb99, your photos are wonderfully inspiring! Are most of these shade lovers? I'm especially envious of your Downy Rattlesnake-Plantain. I've got a thriving Rattlesnake Master, Eryngium yuccifolium, but I've never heard of the Rattlesnake-Plantain. I looked it up and found it has lovely foliage as well as blooms! Would you recommend trying to grow it from seed?

greenthumb99

greenthumb99
Lucketts, VA
(Zone 7a)

July 7, 2012
3:45 PM

Post #9196975

Nothing in my yard gets more than 3 hours of direct sun. The Skullcap and Mt. Mint also get bright/high shade most of the day. The Bellflower, Tick-Trefoil and Rattlesnake-Plantain receive only dappled, woodland shade. My Rattlesnake-Plantain was given to me, so I'm unsure about raising it from seed. Haven't seen the seed being offered anywhere. Here are my notes from my potting up the bare root plants I obtained in early March:

Used a mix of:
¼ Pro Mix
¼ Leaf Gro (commercial leaf compost)
½ coarse builder’s sand

Filled 4”x4”x4” pots to within 1 inch of top.
Placed rooted stem/rhizome on top of mix.
Added about ½ inch or so of leaf mold with some of the above mix added in. Very loose and light.

All the plants have done well. When I planted them out I dug out the planting area to a depth of 8 or 10 inches and replaced the soil with the above mixture. Everyone seems to be thriving.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 8, 2012
7:25 AM

Post #9197610

Coreopsis, also tends to feed the hungry deer, but it reseeds well!

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2012
12:33 AM

Post #9198515

Lance leaf coreopsis is growing here too and about to bloom.
Ruellia- I bought one this spring, http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/38221/ I think, and its doing ok in a hot sunny spot= great blue flowers
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 9, 2012
1:34 AM

Post #9198530

Im enjoying Esperanza, Zexmenia, Salvia coccinea, lady in red and coral nymph, Ruellia brittoniana, pink and blue. All are full sun. photos tomorrow.
JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2012
6:04 AM

Post #9198687

I have two different Ruellias--not the Mexican ones. They're both natives, I'm told. The creeping version (R. humilis) is thriving in full sun, and its flowers are a rich, bright purple. The upright version is a delicate lavender. It has abundant flowers that seem to last one day only. I don't know whether their short life span is natural or whether they're protesting the triple digit torture treatment. Still, they do open, and they do make a lovely (if brief) show. The color of this photo doesn't do them justice.

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JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2012
5:58 PM

Post #9199641

Let me try again to get the photo of the Ruellia. Doesn't look like it, but it's about 14 inches tall. Don't know its species name...It was sold as Ruellia. Anybody know the species name?

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sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

July 9, 2012
7:28 PM

Post #9199746

Sorry, not me.

Not in bloom right now, but prickly pears are somethings i have not worried about in the least with this extreme heat.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 9, 2012
8:36 PM

Post #9199834

You sure it's Ruellia and not Mexican Petunias? Not that there is a HUGE amount of diff..
JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 9, 2012
9:01 PM

Post #9199859

Well, now I'm wondering if the species "nudiflora'' is a clue to their habit of dropping all the blooms! Kittriana, in another location I do have some Mexican petunias--also a type of Ruellia, I believe. They're taller by quite a bit, and their leaves are longer and more pointy. Also, they're persistent and slightly aggressive. I pulled bunches of the Mexican petunias by the roots last year, hoping to free up a rose bush, and this year...well, you can guess. There they are, survivors and descendants of last year's thugs. No, I'm trying to grow and propagate native plants only in my little backyard hobby nursery: Rootsandshootsnursery.com

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 10, 2012
10:24 AM

Post #9200389

Mexican petiunias are Mexican ruellias- weeds- Texas has several native var of their own ruellias, I have a creeping one that doesn't thug out the little spot I put it, gets weed eated constantly, blooms every morning and trails down an edge embankment - blooms gone by heat of noon, and come rain or shine is there - but the Mex pets my dau likes we hack dwn and stick into hard to grow places to keep em. Frostweed knows these better than I. Mine was a volunteer at another home...
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 11, 2012
12:38 AM

Post #9201197

Ruellia is the genus. There are many species. I have R. brittoniana which is known as Mexican petunia. The R. nudiflora is also a Texas native but not declared invasive. There is Ruellia elegans which is red and beautiful and not thuggish. There are several others. Strangely perhaps, I adore my brittonianas but I have a different perspective on gardening than most. I love their dependability no matter the crazy Texas weather. I have them planted in masses and they are gorgeous. They do not spread quickly as a clump by roots but they cast a lot of seed. I have one bed that is surrounded by concrete so they are contained and my other beds are heavily mulched so no volunteers there. I have one border on a path and I just mow down the sprouts when they come up outside the border. Even grown plants are easy to pull if you pull sideways instead of up. If I get one where I dont want it, I just pull it up. I dont have an elm tree and I get thousands of elm seeds. If I miss one of the volunteers of this, there is no pulling it. It has to be dug. It is far more problematic than my "purple showers". They are a sea of blue until about 1 PM and the wind blows that day's blooms away but tomorrow there is another purple sea of blooms. Love those plants!

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

July 11, 2012
1:04 AM

Post #9201207

I guess I'll never have to buy another R brittoniana !
cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

July 11, 2012
2:52 AM

Post #9201237

With the heat and drought both. Everything I'm not watering is dead. I have'nt gone into the woods to check on my Rattlesnake Plantian.(We also have a bear around.) And a deer is desperate for green stuff and has invaded my daylillys. My wild dwarf iris is hanging in there with only a one time water boost.
Vickie
JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 11, 2012
7:45 AM

Post #9201478

Just checked out the photos of the R. elegans. It's really gorgeous. Though I do have some non-native plants in my landscape, I'm trying to resist adding any. Unfortunately the R. elegans is native Chile to Brazil. Drat! On the other hand, all the little R. humilis are thriving and blooming, spreading along to create a nice groundcover. Here's the first shot I took before they went in the ground.

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C_A_Ivy
Barling, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 14, 2012
12:58 PM

Post #9205138

It may be debatable that it is a native but portulaca pilosa (pink purslane) has done well in the heat and drought conditions.

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cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

July 17, 2012
5:07 AM

Post #9208356

Shorthog, You're not far from me, Is the drought as bad in Barling as it is east of you?
Vickie
l6blue
Coon Rapids, MN
(Zone 4b)

July 17, 2012
7:34 AM

Post #9208603

It's been so hot and dry that even my Monarda and Liatris are wilting. I'll have to break down and water them tonight if it doesn't rain.
C_A_Ivy
Barling, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
5:08 PM

Post #9211803

Cando1 ,
It is dry in the Arkansas river valley but the tops of the hills are starting to brown out from dying bushes and treees We need rain. I've been watering flowers / plants to keep them alive. My wild passion flower has really grown and bloomed. It has become the food source for hundreds of Gulf fritillary caterpillars. Hopefully I will have lots of beautiful butterfles this fall.

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sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 20, 2012
7:45 PM

Post #9212936

Definitely ruellia humilis. And the rudbeckias and echinecias.
JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2012
6:19 PM

Post #9217423

These Smooth Oxeye, Heliopsis helianthoides, appear oblivious to the triple-digit heat index for days in a row. Also, my Cardinal Flower, to my astonishment, has never looked better. (Well, yes, I did water it quite a bit last week.)

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kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2012
6:28 PM

Post #9217435

The wildflowers in Illinois have bloomed, seeded and gone dormant- the Queens Anne Lace, however, doesn't appear to even be slowing down

greenthumb99

greenthumb99
Lucketts, VA
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2012
6:53 PM

Post #9217460

My Scutellaria incana has gone crazy this year, growing to about twice its normat heigth. Tallest part of this clump is about 5 and a half feet.

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JaneJabbour
Charleston, SC
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2012
6:39 PM

Post #9218777

greenthumb99,
I can't believe the Missouri Botanical Gardens website has this to say about your absolutely gorgeous Scutellaria incana;
" Although an interesting wildflower, this species is infrequently sold by nurseries because its ornamental values are somewhat marginal."
Marginal ornamental value?? I am absolutely going to find one and plant it ASAP. I think it's spectacular! Also, I ordered a Rattlesnake Plantain, inspired by your photo. I love learning about new and slightly unusual native plants. Thanks!
Here's my Wisteria frutescens, only one year old, and doing fine despite infernal temps.

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greenthumb99

greenthumb99
Lucketts, VA
(Zone 7a)

July 25, 2012
7:56 PM

Post #9218856

Jane - Don't know why my Scutellaria incana is doing so well. I have a patch in a shadier location that is only 30 -36 inches tall and not as filled out. All my plants were winter sown in January two years ago. The photo below shows the three-one year old plants (about 24" tall) after planting last summer that produced the clump in my above photo this year. As you can see, our soil is not exactly a gardener's envy, and all I did was add compost to the hole at planting time. Would you believe that the two photos were taken exactly one year apart - July 22.

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JCalhoun
Saraland, AL
(Zone 8b)

August 12, 2012
8:10 AM

Post #9238783

Red sage, coral honeysuckles, coreopsis, and Indian blankets are doing well.
poppop
forsyth, GA
(Zone 8a)

May 20, 2013
10:29 PM

Post #9527998

I see the Smooth Oxeye, Heliopsis helianthoides mentioned quite often . Sounds like a good one for our heat .

pollengarden

pollengarden
Pueblo, CO
(Zone 5b)

June 18, 2013
6:54 PM

Post #9564332

The only think that seems to prefer this hot dry weather is my Lemon tree - which is not native to Colorado!

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 1, 2013
11:03 PM

Post #9582841

I am still trying to start Rattlesnake Master (Eryngium yuccifolium) from seed. Supposed to be great for xeric conditions.
C_A_Ivy
Barling, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 2, 2013
2:57 PM

Post #9583677

AmandaESq, the Arkansas River Valley Nature Center has lots of Rattlesnake master. It does very well here in the hot dry season. I was surprised to see that the butterflies like it. The prickly balls can smart when touched.

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pollengarden

pollengarden
Pueblo, CO
(Zone 5b)

July 2, 2013
3:46 PM

Post #9583751

Checked USDA plants database. E yaccafolium is not native here but it looks like it would grow here. I might have to try it.
Does anyone have Red, White, or Blue things blooming now?

Cville_Gardener

Cville_Gardener
the Highland Rim of
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 3, 2013
2:23 AM

Post #9584325

My red is Monarda, I have big white seed pods on my Asclepias syriaca, and blue blooms on the Stokes asters and agastaches. Unfortunately, I didn't get the blue penstemon seeds planted this year. That's on the "to do" list for next year.

C_A_Ivy
Barling, AR
(Zone 7b)

July 3, 2013
6:47 AM

Post #9584511

I guess that I need to do like my neighbor; plant lots of USA flags around the house. Red, white, and blue flowers would be limited to non natives. A deep red hibiscus, white pentas, and blue larkspur.
Some of the my natives are flourishing. The wild ruellia, pinks, and liatris.
A glorious fourth !!!!

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Cville_Gardener

Cville_Gardener
the Highland Rim of
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 3, 2013
6:54 AM

Post #9584518

I agree ... glorious flowers and glorious Fourth. :)

Some non-natives here:

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AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 3, 2013
1:52 PM

Post #9585209

I love love love the Rattlesnake Master. First saw it in a meadow at NEWFS botanic garden in Massachusetts. I wanted to plant it in my white memory garden for my dog, but that's mostly shade. In any event, I must be working too hard at trying to germinate them. I did read this spring they might need some stratification, good grief!

Last year I started some Echinops ritro to get the round thing out of my system. They are about to bloom the first time, and I have been enthralled at images. I can only hope the real thing is half as pretty.

Most of my reds are the gaillardia 'burgundy', achillea red, pentas.

Whites - oakleaf hydrangeas, obedient plant, Shasta Daisy 'Becky', fleabanes, Solidago ptarmicoides, mountain mint . ...and I do believe the mystery monarda is in fact the bradburiana.

Blues: liatris, balloon flowers, West TX Mistflower (!), Black and Blue salvia, Agastache,

If the rain would keep to itself for a little while, more flowers might emerge.

Thankful to be free,
Amanda

greenthumb99

greenthumb99
Lucketts, VA
(Zone 7a)

July 11, 2013
5:03 AM

Post #9594939

Amanda - your Rattlesnake Master seeds will germinate best after 60 days of cold, moist stratification. Try leaving the seeds you are currently trying to germinate outside over the coming winter. I always keep starter pots around for at least a second year and am rewarded with many positive results.

AmandaEsq

AmandaEsq
Greensboro, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 13, 2013
8:55 PM

Post #9598071

Thanks, yes. I keep waiting. :)

GrownativeTX
Ft. Worth Zone 8a, TX

August 12, 2013
9:44 PM

Post #9629149

It's August and temps have been inthe 100 degree range or top of the 90s for most of the summer. My four best performers (zone8a) have been common sunflower / helianthus annus (birds and bees love it), prairie verbena (verbena bipinnatifida), indigo spires salvia, and salvia farinacea 'Cedar Hill'. These are all blooming well in spite of the heat.

pollengarden

pollengarden
Pueblo, CO
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2013
10:25 AM

Post #9629601

We finally got some rain and temps have cooled down some.
Natives right now all seem to be yellow composites.
1 Chocolate flower berlandiera lyrata - takes very hot dry conditions
2 Perky Sue, hymenoxys spp., I like the grass-like foliage
3 Prairie Zinnia grandiflora - another plain for hot & dry, I wish I had more of it
4 Mexican Hat, Ratibida, spreads too easy & has too much pollen - I yank a lot of it out
5 Last but not least, our native Fetid Marigold: Dyssodia papposa. It has 10 times the Marigold stink but with tiny nearly petal-less blossoms. I let it go because if anything will repel pests in the garden, this smell is it - except for a tiny native butterfly that it is the host plant.

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Cville_Gardener

Cville_Gardener
the Highland Rim of
United States
(Zone 7a)

August 15, 2013
10:25 AM

Post #9631509

Rudbeckia subtomentosa 'Henry Eilers' is going strong right now. I'd have to say we haven't had nearly the heat we usually do though. Tall garden phlox, Glandularia canadensis (purple, white) and the last blooms of the Joe Pye are doing well.

2gardenkate

2gardenkate
Crofton, MD
(Zone 7a)

August 15, 2013
5:05 PM

Post #9631817

Same here, Cville. We usually get our 90+ degree stuff now. For the past week, the weather has been pretty mild.

I would have to say almost everything is doing OK this year. In past years, Coreopsis tripteris has been a big winner in hot weather.

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