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Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

July 7, 2012
6:21 PM

Post #9197138

Hello folks. A neighbor of mine has a gorgeous Black Lace Elderberry that I would like to take cuttings of and propagate, and I'd like to find out a variety of methods (not just one) to do this, based on your personal experience. Websites are helpful - but please - only ones that you used, that worked. I have found out, through these cyber years that some people post things on the internet that are like a joke, I think to see if people are stupid enough to try them. I love propagating. I am now disabled and it is my only involved sport. I get about as excited when I get a cutting to root as I used to get if I shot a 3 pointer in a basket ball game.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

July 7, 2012
10:33 PM

Post #9197371

You may not be aware, but Black Lace elderberry is a patented plant so you are not allowed to propagate it asexually (cuttings, tissue culture, etc) without permission of the company/person who owns the patent.
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

July 7, 2012
11:28 PM

Post #9197390

well, first of all, I'm not sure that that is the actual plant, but even if it were, I'd give it a try. For sport - not to manufacture and sell. I'd rather have a chance of sporting it than buying it (boring). And if they want to arrest me, let them, lol. I'm having fun in the garden.
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 7, 2012
11:45 PM

Post #9197396

I dont know how to propagate that variety. I have the regular wild kind and they grow like weeds here. If I were you, I would lean a branch over to the ground, cover a node with some soil, place a brick over it, keep it moist and after it roots, cut it loose from the main plant.
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

July 8, 2012
12:51 AM

Post #9197409

thanks, steady... but I need to bring it across the street so I need a method besides that. That can help me later though, once I have it established!!!!! (((hugs)))!!!!!
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

July 8, 2012
2:30 AM

Post #9197431

I have rooted it before by sticking the cutting in a pot of soil but it took longer than usual that way. On the propagation forum, they recommend using several methods at once so maybe try one cutting in water, one in soil-less mix with rooting hormone and one in potting soil with rooting hormone. In my experience, everything roots better with strong light and less tendency to rot.
zoneimpaired
Toronto, ON
(Zone 6b)

July 8, 2012
7:34 PM

Post #9198334

Karrie,
all elderberries root so easily that I simply put cuttings in water in bright light.
Robert
MaryEv
Columbus, OH
(Zone 6a)

July 26, 2012
6:50 AM

Post #9219194

I've been wanting to try this with a neighbor's elderberry, too. Is this a good time of the year to try?

Thanks for starting the thread, Karrie! :)
tompedz
Salem, AR

July 31, 2012
5:42 AM

Post #9224554

Easy just snip a new shoot, short non woody, keep it moist in a loose soil out of direct sun. I have both (sambucus) I think the yellow looks nice.
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

August 4, 2012
10:30 PM

Post #9229936

my neighbor gave me BIG cuttings, and I separated them into two different types to hopefully make sure that at least one type would work. She cut them from the bottom of the plant, and those were woody, but had leafy stems that I separated. I put the leafy stems in one jar of water, and the woodier, thicker ones in another jar of water. The woodier ones actually seem to be doing something now - they are forming nodes much like I remember when I did brugmansias...
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

August 4, 2012
10:31 PM

Post #9229938

oh - I just rinsed the water of the big ones, and removed all the leaves, because it was getting smelly. But since then, is when I noticed that there is activity.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2012
11:02 PM

Post #9229947

Kerrie are you putting peroxide in the water you have them in? That would probably help with the spoilage.
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

August 5, 2012
3:14 PM

Post #9230648

No, Jnette! I'd never heard of that - how much should I use?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2012
3:43 PM

Post #9230676

Depends on how large a container you are using. i.e. how much water. I just use glugs, like one or 2 glugs in my watering can which is 5 quarts. Sorry, if you can tell me how much water in your container I might be more specific.
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

August 5, 2012
4:18 PM

Post #9230717

It's a large flower vase - maybe 1 1/2 liters (trying to imaging a 2 liter bottle)
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2012
4:21 PM

Post #9230723

Try maybe an 8th of a cup? A half a glug. :0)
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

August 5, 2012
5:13 PM

Post #9230791

ok! Thanks! Didn't you send me Brug seeds and some materials years ago? I haven't been on Daves Garden for several years...
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2012
11:31 PM

Post #9231081

I sure might have. :0) Weren't you in the NE?
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

August 6, 2012
12:10 AM

Post #9231085

nope, here in Spokane
MaryEv
Columbus, OH
(Zone 6a)

August 8, 2012
11:07 AM

Post #9234367

I love that, glugs...the scientific measurement! :)

I've read 1Tbsp of Hydrogen Peroxide per quart of water.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 8, 2012
12:53 PM

Post #9234503

Go with it.
Garden_Sass
Central, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 23, 2012
5:44 AM

Post #9283728

Another research possibility is Youtube videos, perhaps someone has posted instructions you can view where you can actually see what has worked!

Good luck with your project...
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

January 12, 2013
9:49 PM

Post #9383308

youtube videos - now that's a good idea!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

March 9, 2013
8:56 AM

Post #9443748

OK, so how did it come out?
Karrie20x
Spokane, WA
(Zone 5b)

April 25, 2013
3:28 PM

Post #9497062

I wasn't able to root a single cutting - will try again this next year. I did go and buy one at a nursery.
Gypsi
Fort Worth, TX

July 8, 2013
8:38 PM

Post #9592412

I have one of the "wild" elderberries, seems like I dug up a cane of it from the base, with a couple of inches of roots when I moved, which was in winter, and I dug a hole where I wanted to plant it, and planted it, been doing ok these past 10 years. Sometimes winter planting outdoors works well, but I live in Texas

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