Rose French Perfume (Keiban) Reversion?

Ravensdale, WA

My Jackson/Perkins yellow/pink french perfume rose after 14 yrs. has now produced both the standard yellow blooms AND a smaller all red bloom. Is this a reversion to one of the roses in the original tea hybrid? Is it common?

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

Sorry no one has answered your question. The red bloom is Dr. Huey, commonly used as a rootstock for grafted roses. The suckers of Dr. Huey can take over the rose bush completely unless you remove them. They're growing below the graft and you must pull them off the plant. Cutting them will only stimulate new growth.

Richmond, TX

Zuzu's advice is worth following. I have had this happen to many of my roses. Often I thought the "mixed" rose was quite attractive and let nature take its course. Fortunately I also like the look of Dr Huey as all of the roses did eventually get taken over completely.

Alba, TX(Zone 8a)

Dr Huey is kind of purdy isn't it? One of the local nurseries is offering it as a named variety now. It does survive well here. I just don't want it where I don't want it, if you get my meaning LOL!

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I know what you mean, Terri. It is a little like a badge of shame. LOL.

I think it's a beautiful rose, but it suffers from powdery mildew here, and I really don't have the space for too many once-bloomers. I prefer to replace it with something that reblooms.

Denton, TX(Zone 7a)

Hey Zuzu, good to see you here! I have several Dr Huey's around the yard....

Richmond, TX

Yes, I have a very shame-full garden here!

Richmond, TX

Oops! The photo didn't post; trying again...

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

Hey, Melva. Good to see you!

Okay, Porkpal, if you can show evidence of your gardening faux pas, so can I.

I especially love the buds:

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Alba, TX(Zone 8a)

The thing is, that particular red mixes so well with other colors! I don't seem to get that powdery mildew with DH here--yet anyway LOL!

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

You're right, Terri. It does mix well, even when you'd expect it to clash. The tall one in my photo used to be Queen Elizabeth, but I already had so many of those that I didn't mind the Doctor taking it over. The combination looked great while Dr. Huey gradually prevailed completely. It probably looks best of all with yellow or apricot, however.

Denton, TX(Zone 7a)

Here is one of the Dr Hueys in my yard...it is a mystery because it is growing with an own root Swamp Rose...it is kind of pretty when they bloom together.Other rose picture is the Noisette Celine Forestier...and the kitty is Corky...he does not pose as well as Horsie...who was a model in a former life.

The rose pictures won't load..let me try them in a new post.

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Denton, TX(Zone 7a)

Let me try again.Here is Celine...

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Denton, TX(Zone 7a)

and here is Swamp Rose and Dr Huey.

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Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I miss Horsie like crazy, but I love that Corky! He grew up to be such a beauty!

Denton, TX(Zone 7a)

Thanks Zuzu...Corky, has grown into a beautiful boy...he has a lady that comes to feed him every morning...I haven't met her yet. Phil sees her as he is leaving for work....I wonder what she calls him? My neighbor across the street, says Corky comes over to his house to beg...his wife gives him a bowl of water..I am sure that annoys him.

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Richmond, TX

That's a great photo! Does he really watch TV?

Denton, TX(Zone 7a)

We have a different TV now and it seems to scare him...he used to like to watch it sometimes when there were animals on...he is watching wolves in the picture....

Richmond, TX

None of our animals ever pay any attention to TV. We had a cat that liked to sit on top of the TV while we were watching, probably because she thought everyone was looking at her.

Sebastopol, CA(Zone 9a)

I had a cat that sat on top of the TV and fell off regularly, probably to ensure that everyone would look at her.

Richmond, TX

Clumsy cats are rare and consequently all the more amusing.

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