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retiredman
Ravensdale, WA

July 13, 2012
12:42 PM

Post #9204015

My Jackson/Perkins yellow/pink french perfume rose after 14 yrs. has now produced both the standard yellow blooms AND a smaller all red bloom. Is this a reversion to one of the roses in the original tea hybrid? Is it common?

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Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

September 22, 2012
4:47 PM

Post #9283348

Sorry no one has answered your question. The red bloom is Dr. Huey, commonly used as a rootstock for grafted roses. The suckers of Dr. Huey can take over the rose bush completely unless you remove them. They're growing below the graft and you must pull them off the plant. Cutting them will only stimulate new growth.
porkpal
Richmond, TX

September 22, 2012
6:51 PM

Post #9283477

Zuzu's advice is worth following. I have had this happen to many of my roses. Often I thought the "mixed" rose was quite attractive and let nature take its course. Fortunately I also like the look of Dr Huey as all of the roses did eventually get taken over completely.
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 24, 2012
8:22 AM

Post #9284806

Dr Huey is kind of purdy isn't it? One of the local nurseries is offering it as a named variety now. It does survive well here. I just don't want it where I don't want it, if you get my meaning LOL!
Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

September 24, 2012
11:58 AM

Post #9285007

I know what you mean, Terri. It is a little like a badge of shame. LOL.

I think it's a beautiful rose, but it suffers from powdery mildew here, and I really don't have the space for too many once-bloomers. I prefer to replace it with something that reblooms.
melvatoo
Denton, TX
(Zone 7a)

September 24, 2012
12:15 PM

Post #9285013

Hey Zuzu, good to see you here! I have several Dr Huey's around the yard...
porkpal
Richmond, TX

September 24, 2012
3:46 PM

Post #9285270

Yes, I have a very shame-full garden here!
porkpal
Richmond, TX

September 24, 2012
3:59 PM

Post #9285280

Oops! The photo didn't post; trying again...

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Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

September 24, 2012
7:34 PM

Post #9285469

Hey, Melva. Good to see you!

Okay, Porkpal, if you can show evidence of your gardening faux pas, so can I.

I especially love the buds:

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terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 25, 2012
8:21 AM

Post #9285922

The thing is, that particular red mixes so well with other colors! I don't seem to get that powdery mildew with DH here--yet anyway LOL!
Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

September 25, 2012
1:22 PM

Post #9286182

You're right, Terri. It does mix well, even when you'd expect it to clash. The tall one in my photo used to be Queen Elizabeth, but I already had so many of those that I didn't mind the Doctor taking it over. The combination looked great while Dr. Huey gradually prevailed completely. It probably looks best of all with yellow or apricot, however.
melvatoo
Denton, TX
(Zone 7a)

September 26, 2012
10:15 AM

Post #9286923

Here is one of the Dr Hueys in my yard...it is a mystery because it is growing with an own root Swamp Rose...it is kind of pretty when they bloom together.Other rose picture is the Noisette Celine Forestier...and the kitty is Corky...he does not pose as well as Horsie...who was a model in a former life.

The rose pictures won't load..let me try them in a new post.

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melvatoo
Denton, TX
(Zone 7a)

September 26, 2012
10:21 AM

Post #9286930

Let me try again.Here is Celine...

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melvatoo
Denton, TX
(Zone 7a)

September 26, 2012
10:23 AM

Post #9286931

and here is Swamp Rose and Dr Huey.

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Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

September 26, 2012
1:13 PM

Post #9287041

I miss Horsie like crazy, but I love that Corky! He grew up to be such a beauty!
melvatoo
Denton, TX
(Zone 7a)

September 26, 2012
1:25 PM

Post #9287048

Thanks Zuzu...Corky, has grown into a beautiful boy...he has a lady that comes to feed him every morning...I haven't met her yet. Phil sees her as he is leaving for work...I wonder what she calls him? My neighbor across the street, says Corky comes over to his house to beg...his wife gives him a bowl of water..I am sure that annoys him.

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porkpal
Richmond, TX

September 26, 2012
2:44 PM

Post #9287122

That's a great photo! Does he really watch TV?
melvatoo
Denton, TX
(Zone 7a)

September 26, 2012
3:00 PM

Post #9287149

We have a different TV now and it seems to scare him...he used to like to watch it sometimes when there were animals on...he is watching wolves in the picture...
porkpal
Richmond, TX

September 26, 2012
8:17 PM

Post #9287474

None of our animals ever pay any attention to TV. We had a cat that liked to sit on top of the TV while we were watching, probably because she thought everyone was looking at her.
Zuzu
Sebastopol, CA
(Zone 9a)

September 27, 2012
1:02 PM

Post #9288120

I had a cat that sat on top of the TV and fell off regularly, probably to ensure that everyone would look at her.
porkpal
Richmond, TX

September 27, 2012
2:14 PM

Post #9288175

Clumsy cats are rare and consequently all the more amusing.

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