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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 14, 2012
9:53 PM

Post #9205536

I was caught in total surprise this AM when I saw that my X Mangave 'Blood Spot' was developing a stalk and flower. Never ever had I thought about it flowering probably because I have never seen a photo of one or read anything about this happening. Is the plant monocarpic? I will continue taking and posting photos to share through the flower's growth and death. In the meantime, here are today's photos. Xuling

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GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

July 14, 2012
10:08 PM

Post #9205543

Exciting! Guess we'll soon find out if it's monocarpic or not. Fingers crossed!
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

July 15, 2012
7:07 AM

Post #9205734

I hope not, its a really pretty plant.
C
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 15, 2012
5:12 PM

Post #9206368

It is a gorgeous plant. However it is suybject to bright and hot sun in the morning and late afternoon and some of the spots and leaves fade. But is has a great shape. Hopefully it will survive. Very curious about the flower. Will keep posting pics as the stalk grows. Xuling
amanzed
Los Angeles, CA
(Zone 10a)

July 15, 2012
6:44 PM

Post #9206474

Maybe it will create bulbils even if it's monocarpic.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 15, 2012
7:26 PM

Post #9206532

no sign of any yet.
amanzed
Los Angeles, CA
(Zone 10a)

July 15, 2012
8:37 PM

Post #9206620

Bulbils sometimes take a while, even a year after the inforescence appears.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


July 16, 2012
8:28 AM

Post #9207074

I would be very surprised to learn it is not monocarpic.. the good thing is these are so common now, you can get large ones at Home Depot for cheap.
kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 16, 2012
9:08 AM

Post #9207132

How come I can never find any? I think my local home depot just sucks. I should check a bigger one out.

xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 16, 2012
5:16 PM

Post #9207825

The stalk is definitely showing now. Xuling

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Illig1
Redwood City, CA

July 16, 2012
5:54 PM

Post #9207909

My mangaves (I don't have blood spot) have bloomed without dying. I just cut the stalks off which grew very high and then had very disappointing blooms. Sorry, I can't remember the names of them.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 16, 2012
8:31 PM

Post #9208163

palmbob, I was at a small local nursery which had lots of the 'Blood Spots' for sale and several of them had many babies, so I purchased one of those and they are happily growing in the ground now. Some day when larger I will separate them and scatter them around through out the garden. Xuling
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 18, 2012
5:08 PM

Post #9210609

today's pic, it is growing daily. Xuling

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Illig1
Redwood City, CA

July 18, 2012
10:34 PM

Post #9210918

Hey Xuling, Re monocarpic issue, I mistakenly stated that I had blooming mangaves. Once I started thinking about it, I remembered that my blooming plants were manfredas, not mangaves as I stated. So the bloom may indeed signal the plant's demise, but enjoy it in the mean time.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 19, 2012
5:13 PM

Post #9211810

I am enjoying it and here are today's photos of the plant. It stalk is taller today and the flower head a little more defined. I had both a Manfreda 'Suavo Bravo' and an xMangave 'Macho Mocha' which bloomed either last year or two years ago (Xuling's poor memory) and had tall stalks with not much by the way of flowers, and they both died after giving me lots of babies which are now planted around the yard and growing like mad. Xuling

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 20, 2012
8:51 PM

Post #9212978

Odd... I have a Manfreda virginica (native to this area) that blooms every year and has not died. It has tall and insignificant blooms that are incredibly fragrant. The blooms stalks tower 6 feet over the plant.

Looking forward to seeing your bloom on the Mangave ~ it has very attractive foliage. Kristi
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 21, 2012
5:09 PM

Post #9213721

Pics right off the press. The flower head is becoming more distinctive. Xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 22, 2012
4:52 PM

Post #9214870

The stalk is 29" tall. The flower head is getting quite distinct. Xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 24, 2012
4:53 PM

Post #9217337

Today's pics. The stalk has grown to 34 inches. Such a fast grower. Xuling

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kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 25, 2012
10:35 AM

Post #9218151

That is growing incredibly fast... So cool.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 26, 2012
9:17 PM

Post #9220019

it is about 37" now. although the yard stick is at an angle for the photo I held it with both hands as best as possible in order to measure it properly. xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 29, 2012
4:34 PM

Post #9222868

Here is today's photo of the flower. The stalk is now 43" tall. I suspect that the bloom will not be much of anything. Xuling

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 29, 2012
8:47 PM

Post #9223166

I will agree that the bloom will probably not be very showy but I would bet it will be fragrant. Looking forward... Kristi
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 29, 2012
9:31 PM

Post #9223187

me too !!
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

July 31, 2012
7:18 PM

Post #9225494

The stalk is now 50" tall. I am not sure that the blossom will actually open as most do. If it is going to it should be soon. xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 3, 2012
8:04 PM

Post #9228878

Has grown to 54 inches. I do not know if the flower bud will really open or this is it????? Xuling

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2012
9:00 PM

Post #9228925

Nope ~ that's not all she wrote. This should be the end result... http://gallery.plantdelights.com/main.php?g2_itemId=7139 and when yours does bloom, I hope you will add the photos to the PlantFiles also. Also hoping to hear that it smells wonderful.
kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 3, 2012
11:30 PM

Post #9228976

This is fascinating!
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 6, 2012
5:26 PM

Post #9232250

It is now 61" tall and the flower head is getting very small. My x Mangave 'Macho Mocha' and the Manfreda 'Suavo Bravo' variegata both had actual flower blossoms, albeit it they were not much of anything. This one doesn't look like it is going to blossom, although there is still enough of a head that it could. Xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 8, 2012
5:23 PM

Post #9234893

64 inches and I guess it is not going to bloom in the common sense. As the stalk grows it sheds little blossoms which do not open and now there is almost nothing left of the tip blossom. very strange. xuling
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 10, 2012
5:58 PM

Post #9237204

Here are todays photos. The stalk is now a little over 66 inches. Since I don't know botany I am guessing that the little stalks with flower buds growing on them are all part of the "flower", which makes it a 22 inch tall flower. The very tip does not look like it is going to "open" as we think of flowers opening. And so far there are no hints that the plant is going to die, but it is early yet. And there are no little babies growing off the plant itself or as pups at the bottom. I will wait and see what happens. Xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 14, 2012
5:45 PM

Post #9241714

It is now 71.5 inches tall. And the tip is quite small.The body looks fine so far. Xuling
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 17, 2012
7:56 PM

Post #9245214

As of today it is 74 inches tall. And the tall it grows the smaller the tip. xuling
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 18, 2012
7:32 PM

Post #9246103

Probably the growing tip has stopped. Today it is still 74". However the flowerettes (?) from the lowest on the spike to the tip is 29" long.
The flowerettes look like they might bloom; I guess that I will find out shortly. Xuling

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GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

August 18, 2012
9:20 PM

Post #9246178

Honestly, I never understood why you thought it wouldn't bloom. Keep on posting, thanks for the visual log!
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 19, 2012
7:41 PM

Post #9247079

Hola German Star, I thought that it would bloom in the beginning, but then began thinking that the bloom would be at the tip, not all up and down the stalk. I confuse easily. Xuling

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

August 19, 2012
8:05 PM

Post #9247091

Doesn't bloom until stalk construction is completed,
LhasaLover
(Tammie) Odessa, TX
(Zone 7b)

August 20, 2012
1:31 PM

Post #9247930

similar type blooms I have seen are beautiful when they all open at once... just you wait!
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 20, 2012
4:46 PM

Post #9248156

In 2010 I had a Manfreda 'Suavo Bravo variegata' that had a 9 foot stalk (+/-) that grew before my very eyes, but the blooms were not much of anything. But I do have lots of its babies planted all over the yard. And my xMangave 'Macho Mocha' had a tall stalk with not much by the way of flowers, but have lots of its babies planted all over the yard also. When these two have more babies I have no more room for them, what will I do? Xuling
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 21, 2012
4:19 PM

Post #9249373

This lively creature is now 76" tall and the tip is very small. Here are 3 pics. Xuling

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smashedcactus

smashedcactus
Cannelton, IN
(Zone 6b)

August 21, 2012
4:43 PM

Post #9249392

Nice xuling. Now I think it's about time for the grand opening.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 21, 2012
5:17 PM

Post #9249425

that would be nice. patience.
Anniesfollies
Carlsbad, CA
(Zone 10b)

August 27, 2012
9:56 AM

Post #9255502

I keep checking every day for the grand opening, but this seems it's becoming like the saying "a watched pot never boils."
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 27, 2012
7:33 PM

Post #9256405

it is not doing anything now. the flowerettes are still closed. doesn't look like it is going to die. strange plant. just measured and it is now 78" tall. So we wait for the blooms. xuling
lonediver
Maricopa, AZ
(Zone 9b)

August 27, 2012
8:12 PM

Post #9256436

It could be a long time "dying" . Now your is a mangave but I have (had?) a Agave vilmoriniana - octopus agave that bloomed last year - 2011and it has yet to "die". Its flower stalk formed hundreds of bulbils that most all still look viable even today . The plant fell over on its side , I presume the weight of the flower stalk finally caused the roots to give way . A few "pups " formed on the trunk itself , it never had sucker pups . I chose for whatever perverse reason to leave the plant alone for observation as to whether leaving the stalk adjacent to the ground if the bulbils would take root laying there . They do not appear to have yet but it is not "dead" yet either.

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

August 27, 2012
8:41 PM

Post #9256465

The bulbils I've tinkered with have been startlingly aggressive, fast growing plants, often sending off many runners immediately after rooting.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

August 28, 2012
5:38 PM

Post #9257576

Here is the photo of the day. xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

September 2, 2012
7:48 PM

Post #9262888

the flowers have not made any movement toward opening. I am leaving 9.11 for 5 weeks so may miss the grand opening. Some one take photos for me ok? Xuling

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 2, 2012
8:54 PM

Post #9262941

Argh ~ Noooooo!

And here I was waiting with baited breath.

Can you rent a time lapse camera? We may never know the ending...
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

September 2, 2012
9:49 PM

Post #9262956

well podster at the rate it is going it istill won't be open ja ja ja
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

September 3, 2012
4:27 PM

Post #9263739

current pics of the xMangave 'Bloodspot'. It seems stuck. Sorry about the photo of the top, I was looking up and didn't quite get a steady pic. Xuling

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 3, 2012
6:51 PM

Post #9263973

Don't the buds seem more full to you?
Seems like they should pop open at any moment.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

September 3, 2012
7:10 PM

Post #9264001

It is possibe. but I am so close to them everyday that I cannot tell. Also the pic above is a different flowerette than the other pics so it could just be bigger. With my luck it will hold off blooming until I leave. Xuling
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

September 8, 2012
5:16 PM

Post #9269301

Maybe I am making this up, but today's pic seems to show the floweretees fattening up a tiny bit and maybe growing longer a tiny bit. Still not ready to bloom and I am leaving Tuesday AM for 5 weeks. Maybe it won't bloom until I return???? Xuling

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Anniesfollies
Carlsbad, CA
(Zone 10b)

September 10, 2012
9:40 AM

Post #9270838

I think they do look a bit bigger compared to the brown 'pieces' at the bottom, but hard to tell. Who would have know they were going to take so long and to measure the flowerettes. Wish I could beam myself up there to water and take pictures. This has been fun watching. Enjoy your trip!
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

September 10, 2012
5:10 PM

Post #9271308

Thanks Anniesfollies, all set to go except for the last 3 minutes of packing tomorrow morning. Xuling

smashedcactus

smashedcactus
Cannelton, IN
(Zone 6b)

September 10, 2012
5:11 PM

Post #9271310

Have fun! xuling
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

September 10, 2012
7:09 PM

Post #9271438

Adventures Await Xuling
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

September 10, 2012
9:02 PM

Post #9271538

Yes... safe travels. We will watch for blooms while you are gone. LOL
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 13, 2012
5:29 PM

Post #9332457

Well it did bloom while I was gone. Here are two pics of it after blooming. These photos are a little delayed as it took awhile to get reorganized when back home, but they were like this when I came back. And the plant body still seems fine although it may die yet, and then again it may not. I am sorry that I missed the bossoms, but not enough to cancel a 5 week trip to Spain and Portugal - ja ja ja xuling

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 13, 2012
7:27 PM

Post #9332553

Welcome home Xuling ~ we were thinking about your blooms now and again.
Too bad there wasn't a time lapse photographing system available.
We will never know if it was fragrant. Did it deliver any seed pods?
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 14, 2012
7:40 PM

Post #9333505

Hola Podster, if the little black section at the end of the flower is not a seed pod, then I would guess no as I have not seen anything else on the stalk. (I always though those sections were for seeds, but I don't know anything about the plants). Xuling
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 14, 2012
8:54 PM

Post #9333543

If the seeds are similar to the Manfreda, they are in a pod. When dry, it breaks open and spreads flat seeds. Your blooms resembled the Manfreda but I don't know how closely related the Mangave is.

xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

December 18, 2012
7:15 PM

Post #9361891

I trimmmed off the stalk because with the rain and wet soil the weight was causing the plant to bend and I was afraid it might fall over. However it doesn't look so good, kind of like it is in a dying phase. It could be the winter blues, but I don't remember seeing it so lacking in color. It looks pale. Xuling

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palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 18, 2012
7:44 PM

Post #9361907

saw another one recently... had bulbils all over it

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

December 19, 2012
5:37 PM

Post #9362614

How lovely. Not one on mine. Now I am sorry that I cut the stalk as I had no idea it could grow bulbils. However there wasn't one growing on it when I cut it. Xuling

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 20, 2012
6:45 AM

Post #9362894

flowers have to die and then, after a few weeks, the bulbils start to form. I have had some agaves take nearly a month for bulbils to start forming and several months to get any of significant size.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

December 20, 2012
7:36 PM

Post #9363510

I was gone for 5 weeks during which period it bloomed and the flowers died back. So you can use the early October period as the flower die back period, and now it it the end orf December (almost) so maybe nothing is going to happen? xuling

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 21, 2012
1:27 AM

Post #9363587

possibly. not sure why some plants produce bulbils while others don't seem to... perhaps lack of hummingbird, bat or bee pollination?
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

December 21, 2012
4:44 PM

Post #9364145

My garden has honeybees and bumblebees and hummingbirds, but now that you mention it I have never seen them at the plant. They love the Hesperaloe and other summer perenials. So is the Blood Spot going to die? Do you know palmbob? Xuling
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 21, 2012
5:14 PM

Post #9364158

The pollinator for the Manfredas' here is the hummingbird moth usually seen from dusk throughout the night. The Mangave blooms are very similar.

I would suspect your main plant will die but produce new plants at the base.

The photo of the bulbils is very neat. Thanks for sharing.

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


December 22, 2012
7:57 AM

Post #9364591

I am not sure, still.. the one I posted in the above photo, despite it sending off a lot of offshoots as though it were a 'last gasp' still shows no signs of dying yet. Some agaves take years to actually die after flowering (my Agave celsii NOVA didn't start looking like it was going to die until over three years post flowering, and then it really just sort of got tatty and ragged so I dug it up and tossed it out... it still wasn't actually looking like it was dying yet.. .but no longer acceptable as a specimen for the garden). And then some Agaves just don't seem to die after flowering (like Agave ornithobroma and some Agave strictas).
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

December 22, 2012
1:05 PM

Post #9364821

interesting info, thanks
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

January 26, 2013
4:48 PM

Post #9398511

An update to the last photo. The 'Blood Spot' looks worse. More pale. It was under cover for about 9 days due to freezing weather here. (Freezing for us) I personally think that it is on its way out unfortunately. I removed some dried dead leaves at the bottom and saw no signs of any babies. Or well, another vacant space for another plant if it doesn't survive. Xuling

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xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 9, 2013
5:21 PM

Post #9413537

Here it is. Dead So that answered the Monocarpic question, at least for this plant. Also a photo of its space that is now available for another plant. Due to the freeze we had plus some other problems I threw out 3 large plants and several small ones, and have been pulling off the rotting lower leaves of various Agaves and shoving rocks into the space to keep them from touching the soil. This has been a really bad year for losing plants, perhap 20 or more easily. Xuling

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GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

February 9, 2013
5:43 PM

Post #9413553

Why are so sure it wasn't going to form a new core on the Spring the way Yuccas do?
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 9, 2013
7:47 PM

Post #9413662

All the leaves were losing more and more color and looking really anemic, and when I touched the lower ones they fell off. It isn't a Yucca, not that that makes any difference about my knowedge of the plant, but to my eyes it was dying and I got tired of watching its slow death. I could pull it out of the garbage and replant it if you really think that it might grow something. I did not chop it up. I could put it in a pot to keep its roots drier. Let me know what you think GermanStar. Xuling

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

February 9, 2013
7:54 PM

Post #9413664

No, I think you're probably right... I might have waited until spring but no doubt a long shot. It still looks pretty nice from the pic, and could have been dropping leaves from cold/wet.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

February 9, 2013
8:08 PM

Post #9413669

I agree about the pic, it makes it look much better than it was/is. But in the garden, watching it since it bloomed, and fading away even in the good weather I do feel comfortable in removing it. And I don't do it lightly. I don't even pick my flowers as I like them on the plant better. X

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