Other. I typically chase the shade when working outside. I can also get some instant relief by just going down into the basement, but that's boring. When the heat gets truly unbearable (not often) we escape into Puget Sound on our little 12' Duroboat with some iced down Budweiser. .
There's nothing like cooling down in the A/C with a big glass of Gatorade, lemonade or iced tea. Perks you up in no time and you're ready to get outside and tackle the heat again. Get hot again and repeat the procedure.
I'm with Regality and Carrielamont. I love the heat and hate a/c.
I will say though, that when the temps were in the 90's last week, with a heat index over 100, I did stay inside during the heat of midday. ;)
I prefer to chase the shade if it's not unbearable and there is a breeze. Otherwise I just come inside to the a/c and cool off. Would rather hop in the pool but don't have one and no private or flat spot to put it. lol
I happen to work (as a profession) outdoors. The heat and humidity can be extreme, so coming indoors to cool off in the A/C is a true relief. Those who must exert themselves in this terrible heat and humidity are thankful for air conditioning. Those who work indoors most of the time do not understand what I mean!
Gotta be ice cold watermelon , right out of the fridge . The fridge is in an air conditioned house , naturally . Then a nap .
Or a frozen margaretta on the porch , if it's later in the day . Also have a swamp cooler on the porch for me and the dogs to stay cool .
So , I guess all four places and things go together .
I voted "other" and am also a member of the "i hate air conditioning more than i hate the heat" club although i might feel differently if i lived in Arizona or Mumbai. But i do have ceiling fans. The Pacific Ocean is about 30 minutes from where i live. To chill out and cool down I go to a small Mexican village (no tourists), sit under a large umbrella at the edge of the continent and have either or both fresh coconut water from the coconut (no tequila added!) and/or a big shrimp cocktail with a nice cold beer. It is cool AND relaaaaxxxing. wowzer...I wonder what i have to do today?
meadowyck - the fall colors make up for having to endure hot summers here. One thing I missed when living in South Florida (Palm Beach County) were TREES!
One year a girlfriend sent me a gift while she was on vacation. When I opened it, out tumbled fall leaves in beautiful golds and reds. I burst into tears! It was then that I knew I HAD to leave Florida.
Flower , in the west , the air is so dry that you can get a nosebleed pretty easy . The air conditioner of choice is a swamp cooler , or another name is evaporator cooler. It's a metal frame box with pads on three sides that water is pumped up and drains down into the pads and a fan inside blows the air out , bringing air in through the wet pads and blowing it out . They sit in a window but I have mine just setting on the porch to keep the dogs and me cool .The water is delivered in a plastic hose like for a fridg and a float in the bottom of the box that cuts the water off and on when enough is used out of the bottom . If I could load pictures , I'd post one .
I don't have much trouble with heat here in Ventura, we're right on the beach. But when I move back to KY this weekend, I will have to fight the humity that is there. I did it before by taking cold showers in the afternoon and staying in the shade or on the bed infront of a fan. We don't have air conditioning in the trailer we live in in KY. Of course there's always Lake Cumberland to go jump in.
Digger, we had a swamp cooler on top of the house when we were in Texas. They use them like air conditioners there because the humidity is almost zip. I had never seen one. Lots less expensive than A/C too. But, honey, I am ruined. Can't live without my A/C.
We called them air conditioners because that's what they did .The only places that had refrigerated air were businesses . Thank you, Lord, for refrigerated air .
My little old dogs enjoy the swamp cooler on hot days and even the ceiling is insulated on the porch .
Digger thanks for telling us about the swamp cooler - I too was wondering what it was.
hmmmm -- Lake Cumberland - is nice and cool even in the hottest weather for some reason.
There have been a couple of times that I thought my brain was going to over heat - pouring a bottle of cold water over my head, a water hose to pour over my head helps a lot.
- This summer My aunt just walked out of her house to say hi to a neighbor, she has lupus , but feels and is doing well. She didn't even know she passed out untill she woke up in the ambulence on the way to the ER. Since I have reached the age that I feel in a constant heat even in the winter maybe I will pick cooer times to o my garden work, and dig the post hole for the fences?
Nope, not ready to lay down yet -- bottles of water, are great, even in the sun!.
Growing up in Tucson, AZ, all we had was a swamp cooler and when the summer monsoons came, it didn't work very well. Needless to say, I have a heat pump now which refrigerates in summer and heats in winter. My daughter's house has both swamp and air conditioning and I do envy her lower electric bills when she can get by with the swamp cooler.
Hi all! I'm new arround here so I just wanted to peek in and join the fun! :-)
I voted for the pool 'cause I finally got the thing working...so I'm certainly going to try to get the most out of it! Close second is frozen grapes! If you've never tried them you just gotta...they are sooooo refreshing!
Thanks for the tip on frozen grapes.
Frozen watermelon, here.
I raised a whole field full of them last year, and sold them. Some girl stopped by an bought five of my biggest ones. I tried it - they are great!
Our pool got old and busted out the seam, flooded the yard, scared the dog and delighted the geese. Chemicals are so expensive - it was just as well. We sold it for scrap metal and we got 300 dollars for it. I was suprised and very pleased. We had bought it used 10 year ago.
Thanks, digger, for the info on swamp coolers. I don't think I've ever seen one. I -DO- remember 'back when' the businesses had A/C, but not many homes did. We didn't, and I always loved going to the store because it was cool there. My parents were some of the last people to get A/C. I went away to college, and when I returned, they had A/C. What's with that? LOL My little sisters loved it, and I was so glad for them. :)
I'm not a heat lover, and I don't have AC or a pool. Do have ceiling fans throughout the house though, and they do help. When it's really hot and humid I play in the garden in the early morning and in the evening. I drink glasses and glasses of iced tea or Crystal light. And to achieve the "ahh" response, nothing beats a cool water shower. :>)
Frozen watermelon? Really? I just happen to have 3/4 of one that the kids aren't eating...and it's swelting hot arround here...well for me it's hot...for some of you all you'd laugh at me I'm sure 'cause it's definitely NOT Texas here but...just the same...we aren't used to that much heat here. Gonna have that watermelon in the freezer soon...how do you do it...cut up in chunks and chuck into the freezer? Gonna try that anyways and give it a go! May have a new fave by tomorrow! :)
My parents loved fishing and loved catching pike - so I know Canada in the summer time and it is hot too.
To Freeze Watermelon
Digger told you exactly right.
Freeze separate on chunks before putting them all together in a bag..
Darn it - always extra many steps and extra time - in all this food stuff.
I only started doing this last fall when I raised a bunch to sell (and did but still had the small ones that I froze) .
I know they separate out easy to pull out and eat like a bag of chips-- just as they first start to defrost. We ate them all up by Jan. Freezer was full
I never did see how it was to lump them all together in a bag -at once- they may have separated too once they started to defrost.
Has anyone else did this and what how did it turn out?
Hi...glad my idea of frozen grapes has taken us into these new directions...I'm now a frozen fruit junkie! I admit I haven't tried the watermelon yet as I was thinking that just
chucking 'em all in the freezer might not work out too great...was waiting to get more info...good thing I did or I'd likely be knawing on a big chunk of frozen melon just now...lol! I tried mango that was getting over-ripe instead! Mmmmm! Yummy! Watermelon next...promise!...in separate bites!
The name...Wed2thahwind...I was sitting here in the HEAT and a nice cool breeze came in...I told myself I just fell in love with that wind and...tadahhh! A name was born...lol! Glad you like! :)
juhur7...I for one am not insulted in the least...I'd be sitting in front of the a/c right now...with a bag of assorted frozen fruit...if it weren't that I'm alergic to the coolants in the a/c! Cheers all!
Ohhh, I got wedded to the wind this evening. I was tiling my watermelon patch this evening - hot, humid, sweat coming off of me like I just step out of the shower. I thought I was going to have to stop before the job was finished and just at my breaking point; along came some wind off some thunderstorm some wher.
I finished the job, and my sweet son came with the truck and trailer to load up my tiller and --he brought a big container of ice water.
I had to buckets of rain water that ran off the barn - and splashed some water on my face ---- it was so hot it was like bath water and I got no relief from that! BUt the wind from the movement of the truck on my ride back was delightful!
I have by the way - seedless grapes just getting ripe - they are about the size of large beads on a necklace. I was wondering what to do with them.
Hey all, my husband's aunt (born and raised in Florida before central air was in every home) used to mush up wantermelon with some good chunks left in and then mixed in vodka or Southern Comfort and freeze. Made a great adult slushy...I'm just saying.
I just bought two more watermelons , and put a bag of grapes in the freezer . I offered D H a cup of them last night , his first taste of them . MISTAKE ! Now I have to buy enough for him to make a meal out of , or hide them . LOL
With those blueberries and grapes - if you have strawberries, and blackberry juice of what ever - you can make smoothies and freeze them. I makes all that stuff last longer. And everyone has a chance of getting a little of every thing.
My mother and grandfather use to freeze cantaloupe years ago. They laid the sugar to it though, but both were sugar holics, it may not have been nessacary. Also they would let them thaw out before eathing them. I bet they would have been better eaten some what frozen.
Does anyone know about frozen cantaloupes?
My watermelon plants are coming along.
The ones that sprouted early are spreading out and setting on watermelons
I had to replant again because a lot of the seeds did not come up. I over planted the next time, some places 8-10 came up and still there were spots were nothing came up.
I got a wet rainy day and mud boots and transplanted.
I guess I will go out and pull off my seedless grapes -a little larger than the size of BBs and see how they do.
I have to buy strawberries and grapes . I do make a lot of smoothies tho , and freeze slices of banana . I buy the flavored water and mix banana, yogurt in the blender . Favorite ! Blueberries , figs , any fruit is fair game .
I've frozen cantaloupe and like it . I've made pies out of cantaloupe too . My favorite way to eat cantaloupe is to refrigerate it and when good and cold , halve it , de-seed it and drop a large dip of well hardened (from freezer ) vanilla ice cream in the center .
I need to go pick blueberries . I have two clumps of bushes that were late getting ripe .
Liquid , Make it like pumkin pie or sweet potato pie . always add a pinch of salt and don't be stingy with the butter . Actually , in south Texas , they even make pie out of grapefruit . Make as you would any fruit pie and thicken with a little flour instead of corn starch . (which I don't like anyway . ) Again , a pinch of salt and extra butter .
I looked up the thread and thought I offered you some of these blueberry sprouts . I either have that on another thread , or I sent it into space . Try the pie Carriel .
Been away for a few and missed a lot of great suggestions I can see. I tried the frozen watermelon...yummy! I couldn't get it in fast enough tonight as I am parched and needed someting real cold real quick...don't have no southern comfort here in Canada and no alcohol on hand so I improvised...frozen watermelon bits, juice of 1/4 lemon, cranberry juice all blended in the blender and poured into a martini glass! Now THAT is refreshing! New fave!!! I'm gonna get everybody hooked on it arround here!
Hey Digger, glad your dh is into the grapes...my boyfriend is also getting hooked on them too...not to mention ME! I'm realising pretty well all frozen fruit is awesome. Frozen bleuberries in your morning cereal is also delish! Helps me alot since I don't like b'fast usually but this goes down well. Hope everyone is having a good one!
The recipe sounds really - really good.
Thanks @ Wed to the Wind.
I just froze 20 pints of seedless grapes I raised -- yesterday. They are about the size of marbles and come in a really packed together tight pod.
I am so impressed with this variety of grapes, I only have the one vine that I bought it at Lowes six years or so, ago. It grows fast and produces a mauve (pinkish) blush on green and best of all they are (SEEDLESS).. They are sweeter than the other grapes my parents raised that are very dark purple blue, have seeds ,and are rather sour.
If nothing else I will make grape pies out of them, because you are suppose to include the skins to make a good grape pie.
My parent's grapes - I had to spend hours popping out the skins and putting them in a separate bowl to save, and then run the pulp; and seeds through the juicier.
See what I have had to do in the past.
That is why I whin/whimper/ cry/ complain when I have to freeze the watermelon in separate piecies on a cookie sheet. Wore out with it all - even if it is really good.
Sitting sounds great!
I do that with green beans.
But really that is not why I am a whinning about it -it is because it ties up my freezer with great big cookie sheets takes up room in the freezer. - darn cookie sheets.
It is not cutting them up or placing them on the cookie sheets not to touch one another - it is getting enough room -in the freezer and I can hardly stack them, you know.
I do have trouble with making room in my freezer. Actually I have three - . I fill them by autumn to the point I could not squeeze in one small raisin - let along big cookie sheets.
Sigh! such a small matter in life, but still one that vexes me.
I have three freezers , same problem . I need to eat more out of them . One , the upright is for meat and main stuff to make a meal around and the 15' chest is for the fruit , veggies , over stock meat and mis stuff . The side by side is for leftovers from meals such as soup and beans,ham chunks and bacon, and pecans , peppers , coconut and other stuff for baking and everyday seasoning including flour , pasta , rice and anything that could get bugs .I have an empty freezer, 15' in the shop that I need to sell , and another , 22' to junk.
I do my green beans and peaches at the table too . Tomatoes are fast , I do them in the kitchen .
OHHHH, I actually had a good long belly laugh, from your comment bonehead.
Yes, I too have one beside the dryer - and it does make a good folding table -
Another thing that can keep you cool - well not really but cooler - is to do all work - farm or yard before 10:00.
You could wait till the evening around 7:00 or 8:00 even, but I do believe the heat builds all day in the summer and there is no cool evenings.
Freezer is actually an excellent place to store any food with a fat content--coconut, flour, wheat germ, coffee, nuts, seeds, butter, cheese, bacon--as well as anything you can get apart after frozen (like blueberries, cranberries, melon balls or grapes). if you wrap stuff carefully freezers are perfect!
Liquid , Try the food processor , then pour into square cake pans and freeze , melt a chunk just a little , reprocess and have a great smoothie . Add other fruit if wanted , or a little fruit juice of your choice . It's cool out this morning , so got everything watered . Need to set out some plants , but can wait
Pod , I never have more than three at a time and have a large fridg for a camper ,with separate freezer . So far , it's big enough but would appreciate the information if you find it .
Back in 1996 or so , I froze 7 gallons of pecans I had picked up and shelled . I thought my step son had taken some home with him years ago . Not so . I cleaned out the freezer in the shop and found three gals. Everything went into the landfill except the pecans . I kept putting off cleaning the freezer because the shop was a good walk from the house and always locked . I did check it when I was down there to make sure it was still working , but just one of those things I kept putting off . You know , "It's frozen , it can wait until I have more time " That was two years ago and after tasting the pecans , determined they were as fresh as the day they went into the freezer . I have made many pies and have only about a cup left now . Sure glad I tasted them before they went to the deer and squirrels . Not one rancid in the lot .
My sister in law -who lives down Mississippi; last year sent me through the mail a huge box of pecans.
She said they had a very good year.
We ate them -all winter; and maybe they tasted better than anything I bought from the store because it was from her - or maybe theyactually were better than anything I could buy.
I planted me two Missiouri pecan trees, everyone tells me they don't get to be big trees up here - and neither does the pecans.
Which makes me glad I live in the United States that has shipping.
But I have 10 quarts of shelled black walnuts in my freezer
There are actually some people that don't like them ?????? My husband!!!! He says they are bitter - I say it is his Californ-I-A raising showing.
There is nothing this side of heaven better than black walnuts and fudge or brownies!
My husband's suggestion for keeping cool - is to wear sunglasses at all times - and fool the brain.
In our farm bulletin , we have b . walnut shelled meats for sale by several people . I don't remember how cheap , but cheaper than I can mess with them . I've been threating to buy some , haven't gotten around to it , and now I guess I'd better .
I'm with you, Pod , all day , sore fingers and finally enough to sprinkle on one small dish of ice cream .
That site about freezer to fridg is interesting . I'd have to go with the kit , ready to plug in tho , I don't mess with electricity.Besides , it hurts my brain to read all those graphs .
Hammer is better than any nut cracker you can buy . I know - I have purchased several very expensive ones, the hammer is sill the best. .
Crack the walnut on it's top/bottom pointed edge. It splits into four sections and then a small tap ln top of each section - will get that opened up into a whole kernal.
I have wasted my time with small walnuts (I did at first) we have one that produces tons and tons in our fence row and it was not worth my time, meats were very small..
I have orderd two from a local grower whose variety produces huge walnuts with thinner shells- last year they produced 15 walnuts for the first time - not bad for just five years growth.
My tather's neighbor has on wonderful walnut tree and since it was getting some age on it and mistletoe was weakeining it; he had ordered some from a famous catalog company- they matured and he found he was not pleased with their variety - so I went with the local grower instead.
On my fahter's farm - down in the hollow - in the wood - that walnut tree from my neighbor must have produced babies over the years, and they are all grown up. For my father has has really good walnut trees that produce very nice sized walnuts.
You must take the attitude of shelling - black walnuts like you do quilting.
My mother was a great quilter - I love quilts but nope - I can't stand it.She tells me I am too much of a hurry.
So never get in any hurry - it is the journey - not the end product.
But on pretty fall days - I take my hubby and son out in the truck to the edge of the woods and gather them - it is always fun.
I bring them home and put them in the yard and stomp and twist and with gloves get the husk off - not as much fun - but I take it short spurts. Then I let them dry . I put them in buckets and put them down in the basement untill about early August - when ever I have finished the corn/blackberries/strawberries - well you know the harvest/freezing and canning has slowed down-
That is when I get up in the morning with my cup of coffee go out on the back porch with a small bag of them and crack out a few and put them in freezer bags.
I did that this morning and barely got the shells swept up before it rained on me.
It is a zen moment - and I don't do it for hours- just when ever like a quilt.
This summer has been more difficult though because my husband is sick and we need a better fence - more than just an electric fence in one area - because the bull got out there this spring . So I am having to spend those mornings digging post holes. Again a zen moment - one post hole at a time.
An elderly lady in her 80s from our church ; cracks them out and gets about 15 dollars a quart.
Liquid , what would be wrong with me buying three qts and her shipping in a small flat rate box from the P O ? I would , of course , pay the postage .Should be able to get three qts in a small box easy .Or four qts if it would hold that much .
I will ask her for you, if you wish.
I might sell you some, if you wish?
But gosh- pecans so good !
Geesh- that would be 60 dollars for four quarts of black walnuts. That is a lot of money for some nuts even if they are the best in the world- and heee, heee, heee -- a tough nut to crack! (It was the black walnut for wince that clich'e came from; I bet money on it )
Plus 5 dollars for shipping - if not 7-- they have weight to them. Flat rate; if they fit into the box even! .
I give mine as gifts for Christmas to several people on my list and the post office is high.
What get's my dander up is a few seed companies are charging five-ten dollars for shipping packets of seeds, in an envelope!
Hmmm, I am curious - does black walnuts grow in the south? I have never thought about it before?.
Yep ~ there are black walnut trees here. A quart of black walnuts would last me a while. The taste is strong enough that it doesn't take much to give a cake or cookie a wonderful flavor. And pecans I love ~ they are more common here.
BTW, thanks for the cracking tough nuts instructions. LOL A hammer was what I resorted to also. But oh how sore my fingers were when I was finished. Good thought to do a little at a time. I did that with a brick sidewalk, it only took 6 months. Never thought of it as zen though. 8 )
The flat rate box doesn't have to be weighed. Postage can be prepaid and it can be shipped from a rural route mail box without even making a trip to town. We do that alot and I love it.
On the freezer conversion, I agree. I would have to buy the prefab one also. I keep visualizing that 15 cu ft freezer full of watermelons chilling in wait for me. 8 )
You are welcome podster;
Thanks for having the patience to read it.
And I bet you are amazed at yourself even to this day and proud - of that brick sidewalk!
Six months is nothing when you think about it - and it makes the memory of the job not so painful!
At least I hope not! I try not to have too painful memories of too many big jobs.
I find I sort of obssess over my stuff to the point of being boring. Sorry about that ; but it amazes me that . just how many people there are in the world that may not have invented the atomic bomb or gone to the moon, but never the less has done some important work like making better blackberry culitvars, or hazelnuts, or pear trees, and esp walnut trees. I just would go out in the woods and gather them without much thought about cultivars untill I ran across that one in our fence row - and found they were indeed tough nut to crack and tiny meats at that. -and not all black walnuts are created equal- !
My father's neighbor said the ones he orderd were Thomas from Starks came out of Pennslyvannia, they were thinned shelled but not all that big and nice as his old tree - but he did not know the name of that culitvar- he had sat it out when he was a very young man. It has produced some very nice babies though, in my father's woods..
I ordered my two black walnuts to go on my farm from a rather famous Kentucky nut tree farm. They are grafted, even!
SAUBER 1 OH. 1970. Large nut with light colored high quality kernel, about 39%. Nut separates clean from the outer hull. Excellent production, about 20-25 nuts per pound. It produced for me for the first time this year. There is one branch that has dropped down to the ground it is so heavy and the walnuts are a look'in big
The other one is
THOMAS MYERS MO. 1980. Very large nut (20 lb.), 38% kernel, cracks out easily, thin shell. Bears early, annually, and heavily. Late vegetating. Anthracnose resistant. Best Ohio Valley and Southern variety. It produced for me last year the 15 walnuts- and though few and young - they were big nuts and lot of meat in them.
They better hurry up and produce because I am getting to the age that I realize I am not going to live forever. I sure thought up untill a few years ago that I was!
To keep from having sore fingers -- when I use to crack them in the fall of the year for hours at a time -I had a black/flat/rubber strip that came from one of those elastic ties - you know if you are hauling something small and want to hold it down.
Also I used the rubber strip from some kind of wrench my husband wanted real bad, after seeing it advertised on television - for opening jars and such .
I just wrap them around the nut and the rubber holds the nut instead of my fingers.
Curious about your Walnuts. Talking to my sister-in-law in Mississippi it seems all things down there are bigger down south.
All all walnut trees equal out there?
All about the same size?
I was surprised at how they vary here in Kentucky.
I always thought a black walnut tree was like any other untill I ran across this one in our fence row.
My father's neighbor said the ones he orderd were Thomas from Starks, and they were not anything close to as good as the one he set out years ago - but he did not know the name of that culitvar. It has produced some very nice babies though.
I ordered my two from a rather famous Kentucky nut tree farm. They are grafted, even!
SAUBER 1 OH. 1970. Large nut with light colored high quality kernel, about 39%. Nut separates clean from the outer hull. Excellent production, about 20-25 nuts per pound.
THOMAS MYERS MO. 1980. Very large nut (20 lb.), 38% kernel, cracks out easily, thin shell. Bears early, annually, and heavily. Late vegetating. Anthracnose resistant. Best Ohio Valley and Southern variety.
I guess I always thought walnuts - go out and gather in the woods, but people in the past have put some work into growing some good cultivars.
I just never appeciate just how many people there are in the world that may not have invented the atomic bomb or gone to the moon but never the less has done some important work like making better walnut trees. .
Great idea to use the rubber strap wrench when cracking them. I actually have one in my own tool box which DH is forbidden to meddle in. Guess necessity is the mother of invention. Great idea ~ thank you!
So sorry, I couldn't believe my long thread.Wow!
I had to look to see what I had written.
I was editing, pasting and copying and forgot to delete a lot at the bottom, so sorry! I should have edited myself a lot more.
I also noticed we sat the tree as opposed to set the tree.
But good luck on the cracking; it will do you good - as you can tell - from my last post just how good it has done my mentaliity. : ).
You could just take up quilting both are just as hard on the arthritis of the hands.
- but quiltiing won't let you be able to claim the 101 uses for your rubber strap wrench!
I have a kid and two grandkids that I would share with . Pecans ? I could use up three gallons, packed full, of them each year . Pies , in salads , candies and roasted to snack on . My ddil makes trail mix with fruit and nuts for my son to take to work .
My nut cracker is metal and you lay the nut in it , pull a lever .
Are you talking about black walnuts or English walnuts ? We have a lot of native black walnut trees . I didn't know you could buy grafted black walnuts .
60 dollars isn't that much when you consider labor, and they freeze well and you have them on hand when needed .
If you want to make arrangements ,Liquid , d-mail me , I'll give you my number and give me yours , I'll call you and talk about when they can ship and all the particulars .
Brick laying is hard on those hands too.
Black wlanuts trees are what I was talking about that were grafted.I can see the graft still too - even though they are five years old. When I first planted them it started sprouting out beneath the graft and I had to strip them off to save the graft.
Yes they sell grafted "Black" walnut trees.
But mine are still very young and just beginning to produce - I still am getting mine out of my father's woods and refuse to touch that one in our fence row - ever again - that is however; where I got most of the quarts I have frozen right now - very small kernals. I have given- and will give all my bigger kernals away for Christmas this year. -- I am ahead on that though---
I have never sold any before.
I have 10 gallon still in their shell in my basement; I am just now starting to work on , I don't know how many quarts it will make? And if I needed more well - walnuts around here won't start dropping untill mid to late Sept.
Tell you what - Let me work on this 10 gallons and see how much they will yield and I will get in touch with you then? And because of the fence I am having to work on I might be a little slower too.
D mail - I have never done that before. I click on your name or something - I figure it out.