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Vegetable Gardening: The freezer is full! Will need to grow less next year.

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HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 18, 2012
8:07 AM

Post #9210037

I've been toying with the idea of growing fewer vegetables next year. There are so many vegetables left in the freezer from 2011 that there is little room to add this year's harvest. A nice problem to have for sure ^_^

My final car payment will be in February. YAY! This will free-up some cash to spend on replacing raised bed borders as some of the wood is now six year's old and beginning to rot. I plan to make the beds deeper, and add an irrigation system based on Ozark's ideas.

Has any DG member put part of their garden to bed for a season? Any hints or tips to share?

Thanks for any suggestions.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 18, 2012
8:27 AM

Post #9210066

Honeybee, your thinking about all the same things I'm thinking about today, nice to have the company :0)

Wanting irrigation as well, where are Ozark's plans? We priced it out and figured it would cost as much as a months worth of groceries. I've grown a years worth. That is my ace in the hole for discussions with the hubby.

Putting beds to rest as well, not sure that I have any tips, sorry. Adding organic matter, covering with organic matter, pulling plants to make more organic matter. The story of my life.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 18, 2012
8:48 AM

Post #9210093

I'm not putting beds to rest. In fact, getting ready to BUY a freezer, and crank up the beds for fall/wtr veggies.

BUT. I am looking into an irrigation system I can expand upon that will handle all the raised veggie beds and the landscaping in the back yard. I'm gonna bookmark this page as we explore systems together.

Hugs!

NicoleC

NicoleC
Madison, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 18, 2012
9:06 AM

Post #9210111

You could:
- Eat faster!
- Space vegetables more widely and therefore reduce supplemental water usage (still need to mulch, tho)
- Can, dehydrate and/or ferment instead of freeze. Various pickles, relishes and salsa make good gifts.
- Grow food for your local food pantry or other association that distribute food to the needy. If they are set up to handle fresh produce (and some aren't), it's a lot better than the food that usually gets distributed. I donate extra veggies and fruit to an organization that grows and delivers fresh produce to low income, homebound elderly and disabled.

I have drip irrigation and I love it. I rarely need to use it, but when I do I can set the timer and walk away. Perfect!

NicoleC

NicoleC
Madison, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 18, 2012
9:07 AM

Post #9210112

P.S. You could also grow crops for compost and soil building in your beds that are resting.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
6:25 AM

Post #9211144

cocoa - this thread has suggestions from Ozark regarding irrigation:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/700139/

I saved all his notes to a MSWord document so I can take it with me when I go to Lowe's.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
6:33 AM

Post #9211156

Nicole - [quote]grow crops for compost and soil building in your beds that are resting[/quote]

Hadn't thought of that! Great idea. Crimson Clover is recommended for this location. THE HONEYBEES WILL LOVE IT!

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-7705-crimson-clover-og.aspx

I did grow crimson clover several years ago but had to turn it in soon after it bloomed. It really looked pretty. I can't belive I didn't think of this. Thanks for reminding me, Nicole.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 19, 2012
7:06 AM

Post #9211214

So, you just sprinkle the seeds, let them grow, then turn them under to break down as a soil nutrient?

KEWL!

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
7:14 AM

Post #9211222

Gymgirl - when I grew crimson clover, I found the roots were so thick, I had to pull and compost them. I don't think transplanted vegetables would have been able to compete with the roots.

But... as a cover crop in beds taken out of vegetable production, I think it will work well.

(Maybe I'll sow the whole garden in crimson clover next summer and take off to the South of France to visit my brother (sigh) just dreaming!)

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 19, 2012
7:17 AM

Post #9211224

Now, I'm confused. "in beds taken out of vegetable production..." You won't use these again for veggies?

The crimson clover will be allowed to take over the bed for good, or just until it dies down and you're ready to use the bed again for something other than veggies?

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
7:50 AM

Post #9211263

Gymgirl - sorry for any misunderstanding...

I plan to grow fewer vegetables next year. Just grow what we can eat on a daily basis. It just seems silly to grow more than we can eat. I give away extras to neighbors. My daughter takes tomatoes to share with her co-workers - and we still have more than we need.

The crimson clover will hold the soil in place in the beds not producing food. Then the following season these beds will have the clover removed and be planted with vegetables. Similar to farmers allowing their fields to lay fallow during some years.

Year one: clover
Year two: veggies
Year three: clover
Year four: veggies

and so on...

NicoleC

NicoleC
Madison, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
7:59 AM

Post #9211274

Another thought, if you are such you want to take them out of veggie production for good, is to plant strawberries or asparagus or another perennial that you eat but don't grow now.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
8:03 AM

Post #9211282

Nicole - we do have an asparagus bed. We used to have a strawberry bed, but between the slugs, sow bugs and birds, we never got any for ourselves. We tried bird netting, but when a snake got killed in it, we threw it out.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 19, 2012
9:24 AM

Post #9211372

Thanks, Bee!

NicoleC

NicoleC
Madison, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2012
1:08 PM

Post #9211596

Honeybee, I had the same problem with bird netting -- kept finding snakes caught in it. I switched to shade cloth and it definitely keeps off the birds. Slugs and such... 'fraid not.

You could use mosquito netting instead of shade cloth, too. Or if your bed is small enough, a piece of toile or other mesh fabric.
Horseshoe
Efland, NC
(Zone 7a)

July 19, 2012
7:35 PM

Post #9211938

Honeybee... You really don't want to sow clover and let it go all year nor do you want to pull it up and compost it. Your best benefit would be to turn it into the soil so the top growth adds plant matter (contributing to soil tilth) and the roots add N.

If you let the clover flower, as I do, it really brings in the pollinators as well as many beneficial bugs for the rest of your beds.

Buckwheat, although not a legume, would also bring in some pollinators/beneficials, and is much more easily turned into your soil than crimson clover (giving you yet another choice of cover/manure crops).

Actually, if you just want to grow "what we can eat on a daily basis", in our area I'd broadcast bush peas in the spring, a green manure crop that gives you a harvest and most folks eat them up pronto! Follow those with a broadcast of bush beans, again a green manure crop that is quickly eaten up due to their short period of production. When each of those plants are turned under, adding tilth and N to the soil, that'll be the best spot in the world to plant some brassica for your cool weather crops.

This keeps your garden soil working and alive. And the crops mentioned aren't overwhelming nor overbearing giving you an onslaught of "too much to eat".

Back to crimson clover, it is best to sow it in late summer/early fall anyway, let it get up and growing, then use it as a winter cover crop. Sowing it in late winter or spring won't do it justice as it will flower early then die, never doing your summer garden much justice.

Just puttin' it out there. Thass all! :>)

Shoe

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 20, 2012
6:17 AM

Post #9212209

Thanks, Shoe, I had planned to sow crimson clover in late summer. I hadn't thought about growing bush peas as a cover crop. We never have enough peas because the birds eat the shoots. Maybe if I sow enough seeds they will not be able to eat all the shoots and we'll actually get peas.

Thanks for your advice. It's always much appreciated.

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 20, 2012
6:27 AM

Post #9212220

I've got the same problem; in my freezers I still have a lot of Fortex beans from last year, as well as lots of berries, some peaches, and some sliced cucumbers, plus some turnips. We did eat all of last year's asparagus so now all I have in there is this year's, but I really don't need more beans. And for some reason the Fortex beans, after being nice and crisp and slim the first few times I harvested them, have gotten softer, tougher and more misshapen, with larger seeds earlier on, as the season progresses.

This was one reason why we took some of our garden out of production about eight years ago and planted dwarf and semi-dwarf fruit trees in that area. We are also growing sweet potatoes and watermelons, both of which are space hogs. I would love to have chard, but when I direct-sow them something keeps eating my young seedlings before they're at harvest size, so I'm trying seeding some in a six-pack, hoping to get them large enough to deter predators before I plant them out.

My Charentais are doing well, but aren't ready to ripen yet.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 20, 2012
7:22 AM

Post #9212274

greenhouse_gal - I had so many volunteer Charentais melons pop up this spring that I didn't need to sow any seeds. They are just about done for this year. Their flavor was amazing. I've saved seeds for next year.

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 20, 2012
7:51 AM

Post #9212304

I'll have to check mine; I've got a very luxuriant bunch of foliage but haven't looked hard for melons. Did you freeze any?

And btw, have you figured out how to tell when Charentais are ripe? I've heard it can be tricky.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 20, 2012
8:10 AM

Post #9212327

greenhouse_gal - yes, I froze some of the melons. When they are defrosted, they will still taste good, but have a "rubbery" texture.

Look for a crack to appear around the stem to tell if they are ripe. Also, turn them over frequently, once a small tear appears, pick immediately. I check mine several times a day! This year I noticed ants gathering around the area where stem meets fruit. Sure enough, this meant the fruit was ripe!

Evidently tortoises will only eat ripe melons! Fortunately they've only got to two before I did - so far.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 20, 2012
8:33 AM

Post #9212345

I'm on a daily Charentais watch as well :0) Thanks for the tips, Bee.

NicoleC

NicoleC
Madison, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 20, 2012
9:49 AM

Post #9212428

One of the reasons I like Minnesota Midget is that the melon turns yellow and literally falls off the vine when ripe. No more guessing.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 20, 2012
10:00 AM

Post #9212441

Now THAT'S a foolproof method...LOL!

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2012
1:18 PM

Post #9213509

Earlier, I spilled coffee on my notes of what I planted where and all the ink ran, becoming unreadable.

Can someone tell me if this looks like a Charentais melon starting to grow I can't think of anything else I planted that looks like a melon.?

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darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2012
2:32 PM

Post #9213582

Honeybee, I hear ya about a full freezer. However, with the current US drought conditions I'm not going to let a full freezer deter my food saving protocol. Instead, I'm dehydrating many more veggies since my freezers are full. I'm also beginning to can some of the meats in my freezers, both for food security and freezer space, not even considering possible power outages.

I figure it this way: with all the drought this year, ALL food prices (even meat) will go up, as will the cost of viable seed if it's even available. There's no guarantee next year's weather will be amenable to better crop production either. There's no way I could put enough food by to contend with some of the 7 year plagues noted in the Bible, but I'd like to hedge my bets to survive more than a year...

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 21, 2012
2:36 PM

Post #9213586

Darius, what will you do with your dehydrated veggies, and how much food value is left in them after being treated thusly?

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2012
2:46 PM

Post #9213599

Mostly I use them in soups/stews in winter, but I'm finding thick-cut summer squash seem to rehydrate reasonably well for a side dish. I'm still very much in the experimental stages but it beats throwing good food away, or growing too much.

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 21, 2012
4:54 PM

Post #9213713

How thickly do you cut your squash? Not that I have any to freeze OR dry. Oddly enough, the plants that are doing best are the Greyzinis outside the popup tent. I don't think that the parthenocarpic varieties are very productive.

And how do you store your dehydrated veggies? I'm always afraid that my pears and tomatoes will mold, so I stick them in the freezer anyway.

NicoleC

NicoleC
Madison, AL
(Zone 7b)

July 21, 2012
5:18 PM

Post #9213733

Darius, I'm fairly serious about food storage. I hope to never need it for real, but having ample groceries on hand (and being used to eating them) sure comes in handy when we have a situation like the tornadoes last April, not so much because you would have any trouble scrounging in the back of your cupboards for a week but in terms of stress levels. A week without power, stores, work or even being able to be out except in broad daylight was the most relaxing week I've had... perhaps ever. Meanwhile all around me people were freaking out because the couldn't get milk and bread.

I also have to say I eat healthier, tastier and cheaper than ever. If nothing else, the wheat berries I bought at last year's prices are virtually guaranteed to be cheaper than today.

Canned meat is incredibly awesome. Pressure canning is scary the first time, but you can take the toughest stew meat or the oldest chicken and turn it into the juiciest, tenderest meat ever. If I could only ever can one thing, that would be it. I canned 30 pounds of bison stew meat a few months ago and it lasted about 6 weeks before it was gone! Mom cans chicken when it's on sale, and that's so much better than store-bought canned chicken they don't even compare.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 21, 2012
5:27 PM

Post #9213741

darius - in my experience, Charentais melons tend to be round and have smooth skins - no netting. They are also small, no more than 2lbs. They don't slip from the vine.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2012
6:01 PM

Post #9213773

Leslie, this year I followed some suggestions and cut my squash half an inch thick (or maybe a tad more because I didn't use the mandoline). I steamed then for 3 minutes, plunged into ice water with fresh lemon juice, drained and then dried.

They look a LOT nicer than those I did last year which were cut about a quarter-inch thick before drying.

I just store my dehydrated veggies on the shelf in mason jars in the pantry. However, I'm careful to put them in a jar overnight and check for moisture to be sure. I tend to over-dry, but it cannot hurt. BUT... even if you freeze them after dehydrating, they take up less space.

Nicole, I have several pounds of venison in the freezer, which I want to can. I might make stew with a bit of it because it makes an almost instant lunch and can be eaten unheated in a pinch.

HoneybeeNC, then if this isn't a Charentais, I haven't a clue what it is. Thanks.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 21, 2012
6:27 PM

Post #9213799

How big is that melon, Darius? The coloring looks right for a really young charentais, but Bee is right, it should be rounder and smooth.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2012
9:35 PM

Post #9213984

It's maybe 3 inches or maybe to 4 inches long at best right now. I discovered another one, smaller, on the vine. They are growing on my new hugelkultur berm so there's scant soil and nutrition for them.

The other end of that berm has Red Kuri winter squash, and they are doing a bit better. Next year will be a different story.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 21, 2012
10:24 PM

Post #9214006

I don't know what to tell ya. It's possibly a longer mutant, can't tell. It looks healthy enough! Hopefully it will taste just as good :0) Maybe it will be better!
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 23, 2012
10:14 AM

Post #9215676

Honeybee, I'm doing cover crops this year to add to my soil, compost bulk in the beds. Also, I've not posted much in the way of veg results and I've been busy just trying to keep up with both weeding and harvest! I'm hoping the cover crops might help with detering next year's weed germination--just a hope =). Also, next year I'm going to plant blueberries and blackberries. Devote more space to soft fruits as I'm not happy with what I've been finding the the stores around here and I do like to make jams, etc. I do freeze a lot of those, so still same freezers space just different items. And my peacock, Mr Chicken, loves blueberries (they make his blue feathers nice and shiny blue--he is soooo vain). So I need to grow many for his free consumption.

I've been using T-tapes. Your spacing in the rows is then determined by the spacing of the T-tape emiters. Re-useable.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 24, 2012
6:26 AM

Post #9216713

Terri, would your irrigation source happen to be from your pond?
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2012
2:11 PM

Post #9217133

No. We bought an abandoned property adjacent to our original purchase. We mostly bought so we could get rid of the aquamarine '50's delapidated mobile home on the property. We were sick of looking at it and sick of calling the patrol officer to report lights over there at night. We bought it as an undeveloped property. When we were signing the closing papers I notice the metion of a well. The seller said the well was old and in disrepair. I called in our well guy and he said it was only about ten years old, deep, and just needed a few repairs to get it up and running! So DH got the well fixed and ran pipe over to the garden. That acreage is now our goat farm. We wonder what the previous owner would have asked for that property had he knowed the well was good!

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2012
6:24 PM

Post #9217429

Crimson clover when used as a green manure needs tilled in at a specific time and then your new crop planted- it also dies back in summer, like vetch, or winter wheat or oats. Resting a year on a plot does best for fields, if this is a raised bed, then the dirt does leach, but can be refreshed with new garden soil. Purslane also can be a cover crop, but seeds stay viable in the dirt for up to 40 yrs. Extra fruits and veggies do VERY good in flea markets, canning freezing and drying STILL has shelf lives shorter than we would like, rehydrated foods are great. If you are unlucky enuff to be the one hit by the tornado ALL your stored foods are compromised, even if they look good,

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 24, 2012
7:30 PM

Post #9217497

So basically, cover crops are useless if one practices No-Till?

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2012
9:12 PM

Post #9217611

They protect moisture, but are useless for green manure since the dying plant is the nutrition for the new ones, they keep the dust down, feed the bees, or you if it is an edible cover crop...

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
5:53 AM

Post #9217807

darius - when I grew crimson clover, I pulled it up. If you have a large area, I guess you could mow it down.

Solace

Solace
Monte Vista, CO
(Zone 4a)

July 25, 2012
6:01 AM

Post #9217820

I like Clover flowers on salad. Clover is edible. http://www.bio.brandeis.edu/fieldbio/Edible_plants/RedClover/RedClover.html
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2012
6:41 AM

Post #9217851

Just for one bed I am going with Sunn Hemp as we are also going to plant out a mixed plot for the goats. And thanks for the info on purslane--I think I'll avoid that in my veg beds. For winter I'm looking at radish mixed w/annual rye and some vetch w/New Zealand white clover. The local Farmer's Co-op is recommending this mix. I don't know as much about cover crops to get too fancy. All in the veg beds will be tilled in in the spring for green manure and nitrogen. They recommended this mix specifically to prep a bed to plant out blueberries. Then they said I could come back in in the spring and plant the New Zealand white clover between the rows as a solid cover to help keep out the weeds and attract bennies like bees. My soil is slightly acid, so we will have to re-test in spring after I till to make sure I'm still good for the blueberries.

The soil test, I think, is good because it really helped me decide to do cover crops and tilling to get more organic matter and nutrients into the soil. I hope this will help attract and sustain more earth worms in my garden.

Got stung by a wasp this morning so I am feeling love for wasp-killing chemicals right now. I need to get back into some good organic soil care to return organic balance to my garden karma.
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
7:06 AM

Post #9217878

Darius, I don't think they're useless, like stated. They have the benefits you're aware of.
In permaculture I think of them as producing 'some' nitrogen by means of rapid life and death of the microbes that work together with nitrogen fixers. But no where near the amount of nitrogen capable as a turned green manure. A green manure crop should provide enough nitrogen to get another crop to the fruiting stage.

There is sort of an economics to it as well. When I was considering sudan grass, it can take as much out of the the soil as a corn crop. Not bad if I have another use for it, but since my main use was green manure and a chopped green mulch. It wasn't the thriftiest of choices.

Terri, I talked a good bit with the VZ county agent this spring, he seemed to back everything the co-op it telling you..good to know they have your back :0) Sorry about the wasp sting, ouch!

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2012
7:18 AM

Post #9217892

Yup, that cover crop is an awesome mix, thot blueberries liked slightly acid soil, purslane isn't the only one with long lived seeds, but for some folx that is a bonus. I love cover crops, but they go hand in hand to return to the soil what the previous plant used, because they use the opposite 'ingredients' . Fallow land doesn't actually regain nutrients very fast, that takes several years. But cover crops in balance are at least a managed care, as opposed to that abandoned weedy look- luck guys

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2012
8:23 AM

Post #9217978

Lynea, you know my remark was mostly in jest, although not the no-till part. I'm still doing a lot of chop and drop, even dropping the buckwheat I planted 3 years ago that still shows up here and there. I'm also planting more N-fixers.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2012
8:25 AM

Post #9217983

Happy Birthday, Honeybee!!

Solace

Solace
Monte Vista, CO
(Zone 4a)

July 25, 2012
9:19 AM

Post #9218052

Happy Birthday, HoneyBee. I hope you have a wonderful day.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
9:21 AM

Post #9218058

Thanks, darius. I don't feel any older. LOL

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
9:22 AM

Post #9218060

Solace - thanks for the birthday wish. I'm just spending a quiet day at home.

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
9:24 AM

Post #9218062

terri_emory - blueberries like a very acid soil. If I remember correctly the ph should be somewhere around 4.5

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 25, 2012
9:38 AM

Post #9218087

Honeybee, hope you have a wonderful birthday! Anything special planned?
cocoa_lulu
Grand Saline, TX
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
9:40 AM

Post #9218089

Happy Birthday, Bee. Wishing you many more years and happy harvests :0)

Darius, doing any N-fixing trees? I can't decide, I love the idea, but all that do well in my area are aggressive reseeders and buggers to pull up.

darius

darius
So.App.Mtns.
United States
(Zone 5b)

July 25, 2012
10:15 AM

Post #9218123

Not yet, but I planted some N-fixers (legumes) this year not for food but for N. There's such a fine line in N-fixing trees and adding too much N. Plus some of the pioneers (as you said) are invaders. I'm looking into alders, can't find my list at the moment.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2012
10:22 AM

Post #9218133

Happy birthday Bee, chuckl, you only feel it after the fact, I found Grand Saline in my atlas, it is kinda dry there, but on the other hand, some of the sweetest water is bottled in Hawkins, close to there, little hills and yeah, elms, oaks, pecans, hickory and walnuts grow well, never thot of trees fixing N, most of the trees I know want N. Stay cool, dog days aren't here yet.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2012
10:25 AM

Post #9218138

Ash? Maybe?

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
10:28 AM

Post #9218140

Thanks Linda and Cocoa.

Nothing special planned. My hubby purchased a bug zapper for me. Sounds like a weird gift, but it's what I asked for. Lookout squash bugs - here I come!

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
10:34 AM

Post #9218150

Thanks, kittriana.

Several leguminous (is that a word?) trees grow in South Florida. The prettiest of which (in my opinion) is the Royal Poinciana. I grew one in my front yard from a seed whenI lived in Palm Beach County.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Poinciana
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2012
10:56 AM

Post #9218168

Yes, Happy B-Day Honeybee! And many happy returns!

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
11:10 AM

Post #9218175

Thanks terri_emory - yup, I plan to be around for many more years.

My neighbor just dropped by with a huge hanging basket of flowers.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

July 25, 2012
10:34 PM

Post #9218972

Oh, Honeybee, I am so sorry I missed your birthday yesterday! I was in and out up to my eyeballs with two home improvement projects going at once!

Happy Belated Birthday, hugs and kisses!

Gymgirl

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2012
8:26 AM

Post #9219284

Thanks, Linda.

(I think I called Greenhouse Gal Linda in a previous post, sorry about that GG)

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 26, 2012
8:35 AM

Post #9219291

Not a problem, Honeybee! I've done the same thing!

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