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koa
Haiku, HI

July 21, 2012
1:16 PM

Post #9213506

These two pups came from the same parent plant. Here on Maui they call this banana "manini". The wind blew over the parent plant so when I replanted it I separated the pups. The white pup was far and away the largest of three then. I thought it wouldn't survive, but now, seven weeks later, it's still putting out pure white leaves.

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jasminesmom

jasminesmom
Saugerties, NY
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2012
5:42 AM

Post #9214134

I love the way the colors compliment each other. I've never seen a white one before, COOL !!!!!
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 22, 2012
6:52 AM

Post #9214180

I have a Monstera putting out pure white leaves and wondering how long it can grow without photosynthesis.
koa
Haiku, HI

July 22, 2012
12:13 PM

Post #9214492

I'm wondering that as well. It seems unlikely that my plant could get as large as it is without any photosynthesis at all. It was separated from the parent plant long before any leaves had opened, so the argument that the energy has all come from the parent plant seems weak to me. Certainly the other pups, which were much smaller when separated from the parent, have all outgrown their all-white sibling, but the white plant is not just surviving, but continuing to put out new leaves. There must be more to this equation. Further, I haven't been babying it, either. It seems the biggest threat to the plant at the moment is sunburn. Although it is in a rather shady place the sun does get to it during parts of the day and the leaves burn.

I recently saw a picture posted of a white monstera. Was that yours, homer1958?

I will post another picture to show the plant's progress.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 22, 2012
12:45 PM

Post #9214558

No... Mine is from a friend in Germany. I received it back in Feb.-Mar. The leaves reverted to white from variegated after two leaves in ascending white vs. green/white. Keeps growing white leaves and this will be the third when it opens.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 22, 2012
12:50 PM

Post #9214563

Koa, Do you know of someone that sells the AeAe? Here is a picture of mine;

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koa
Haiku, HI

July 22, 2012
7:11 PM

Post #9215012

Lovely tropical garden! Could be a picture of a windward garden in Hawaii. :-) No, I don't know who sells the ae ae banana. I know that they are not easy to come by here on Maui. I bought mine from a sale at the Maui Nui Botanical Garden. I'm guessing they do not export any banana plants from Hawaii due to the bunchy top virus. I do see them advertised for sale from time to time on the mainland. I would try searching for the other names by which it is known, since if you asked for an ae ae banana here few people would know what you wanted. I've also heard them called royal Hawaiian bananas (especially on the mainland), Hawaiian variegated banana, koae, and manini. You will have pups soon, no doubt.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 22, 2012
7:26 PM

Post #9215027

I do now. They are growing soooo slowwwllllly. Thanks for the compliment..Labor of love. This is one of 6 areas I have groups of Aroids Musa and Ensete.
koa
Haiku, HI

July 22, 2012
7:29 PM

Post #9215031

Very nice! Let's see a picture of your white monstera.

jasminesmom

jasminesmom
Saugerties, NY
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2012
4:37 AM

Post #9215251

Beautiful garden homer..
koa, looking forward to watching the progress of yours

Christine
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 23, 2012
5:08 AM

Post #9215279

Not much to see; will get a picture today!
koa
Haiku, HI

July 24, 2012
1:08 PM

Post #9217095

Here is another picture of the white pup taken exactly 8 weeks after the first picture.
You can see how the leaves have sunburned. You can also see sunburn on the white areas of its now much larger sibling.

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koa
Haiku, HI

July 24, 2012
1:13 PM

Post #9217103

Here is a picture of the parent plant. I had originally planted it in an area with full sun. The white disappeared from the new leaves. After it blew over I replanted it in a much shadier location and the white returned to the new leaves.

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jasminesmom

jasminesmom
Saugerties, NY
(Zone 5a)

July 24, 2012
5:08 PM

Post #9217347

What a major difference, I just love the white variegated, I've got to get me one of those, I have the zebrina blood and I thought that was the eye catcher, but I'm loving the white & green. Here's my zebrina I picked up for $4.00 and it already has a new pup.
Christine

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koa
Haiku, HI

July 24, 2012
7:21 PM

Post #9217485

That is a lovely banana, Christine! Are the fruits edible, and are they red?

jasminesmom

jasminesmom
Saugerties, NY
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2012
5:08 AM

Post #9217760

koa, as far as I know the fruit is not edible and It wont be in my lifetime I'd see any bananas anyway LOL
When I went out this morning to water I notice a brand new pup popped up last night, I'm thrilled :>)
Christine

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2012
7:31 AM

Post #9217910

Kia do you think if you moved the white leaf one to the shade it would do better like the mama?
koa
Haiku, HI

July 25, 2012
9:51 AM

Post #9218103

It is in the shade except for a very short part of the day. I had thought about putting something over it to give it more shade and then I wondered about whether that would hinder its ability to make food. I'm reluctant to dig it up now. You have a good point, though, because the sunburn can't be doing the plant any favors. I will ponder on it. Perhaps I could rig some sort of shade sail over the top.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2012
2:30 PM

Post #9218453

I think that would work other than if you receive a lot of wind.
joegee
Bucyrus, OH
(Zone 6a)

July 25, 2012
4:30 PM

Post #9218615

Jasmine's mom, my understanding is that ae ae is very delicate and challenging to keep going outside of an ideal environment.

That said, I love the look too. :) Have you ever seen canna "Stuttgart"? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/37576/ This one we can do in our temperate environment. :)

-Joe
KayJones
Lee's Summit, MO
(Zone 6a)

July 25, 2012
6:14 PM

Post #9218740

I met a man this past week who has three Ae's in his yard - they are huge. I will get a picture the next time I'm over there. He also has a couple of other variegated Banana plants - forgot what he called them, but I swear they are 15' tall!
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2012
8:09 PM

Post #9218873

joegee , They like it very warm, good drainage, good amount compost, humid and wet. If you offer those 5, it will thrive!
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 27, 2012
5:48 PM

Post #9220894

Sorry so late koa!

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KayJones
Lee's Summit, MO
(Zone 6a)

July 27, 2012
6:13 PM

Post #9220907

Drew, that is amazing! Thanks for sharing a picture of this unique plant.
koa
Haiku, HI

July 27, 2012
10:52 PM

Post #9221078

Fascinating! You don't show the other leaf, but if that stays in good shape it could support the rest of the plant of white leaves! Cool. I was at Lowe's today in the garden center, and I came across this caladium. Perhaps you are familiar with it. I've never seen one before. It had the tiniest edge of green, and yet that seems to support the whole plant!

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jasminesmom

jasminesmom
Saugerties, NY
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2012
4:35 AM

Post #9221167

homer. she's a beauty. I really like the white caladium too
Christine
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 28, 2012
4:56 AM

Post #9221174

Sure Kay!

With those feathery leaves, just the veins and midrib are enough to keep it alive koa.

Thanks J mom!

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

October 8, 2012
1:04 PM

Post #9299766

If anyone is interested I have a friend that has the following for variegated bananas for sale.

tanee 47.00+ 49.00 s+h
nam hwa 69.00 + 49.00 s+h
aeae 65.00 + 49.00 s+h
black tanee 15.00 +29.00 s/h

Dmail for info.
ytnpham
Cut and Shoot, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 10, 2013
7:29 PM

Post #9414799

Would anyone be able to tell that type of banana leaf that is used to wrap and steam food? Southeast Asian use them in a lot of desserts & dumplings. It turns the food green & impart a unique flavor. The leaves are sold frozen in Asian supermarket but I rather grow my own. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

February 10, 2013
8:26 PM

Post #9414841

I have no idea so I googled it and this is a link that I found. Hope it helps you.

http://thaifood.about.com/od/glossary/g/bananaleaf.htm
ytnpham
Cut and Shoot, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 16, 2013
1:38 PM

Post #9421121

Thanks a bunch. (No pun intended :) ) I end up ordering a type of banana called Grand Nain. It's described as having large dark green leaves. Hope this is the one.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

February 16, 2013
6:23 PM

Post #9421398

That is so funny!!! I'm glad that you got one. Where did you order it from?
ytnpham
Cut and Shoot, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 17, 2013
6:56 PM

Post #9422469

I ordered from Willis Orchard. I also got three varieties of pecan nut. They're really nice and knowledgeable. I've ordered from them before and never had any problems.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

February 17, 2013
7:37 PM

Post #9422494

I have about 5 pecan trees that my sister planted last year to get put out this year in the ground. They are the big soft shell nuts. I hope we live to see the nuts!!! LOL!!!
ytnpham
Cut and Shoot, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 19, 2013
6:15 PM

Post #9424820

If my husband didn't repeatedly mow down my pecan seedlings when we first moved to this property fifteen years ago, I would have knee-high pecan trees by now. They're that slow. These I ordered are grafted so at least my future grandkids will get to harvest my hard work.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

February 19, 2013
6:58 PM

Post #9424871

That is if they don't cut them down to make room for a parking lot. Of course, out there in Texas that would probably take a while!!! LOL!!!
ytnpham
Cut and Shoot, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 21, 2013
6:06 PM

Post #9427239

Happens here a lot. Sad, but true. We're about 30 minutes north of a concrete jungle of Houston. Hope it don't engulf us someday.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

February 21, 2013
6:46 PM

Post #9427277

You're not that far from me then. I'm just a little north of Baton Rouge.
ytnpham
Cut and Shoot, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 22, 2013
7:34 PM

Post #9428431

Small world, and getting smaller.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

February 22, 2013
8:44 PM

Post #9428534

With the God and the internet anything is possible.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 14, 2013
7:07 PM

Post #9449714

AeAe has grown about 3' in a pot in the garage this Winter.

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ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

March 15, 2013
3:51 AM

Post #9449919

If plants could smile yours would be grinning, What a healthy looking bunch of greenery you have there. Just perfect!
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 15, 2013
4:48 AM

Post #9449941

Thanks Alice, I appreciate it. Now comes the in -out- in-out of the garage time of the year. First warm day of the year tomorrow at 76.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

March 15, 2013
5:55 PM

Post #9450786

That is a beauty. I'm praying mine is even still alive. That last little dip in temps last month caused my last leave to drop.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 16, 2013
9:42 AM

Post #9451279

It was outside in the ground, Jeri?

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

March 16, 2013
6:51 PM

Post #9451750

No it was in my sonroom. I had no idea that this late in the season we were suppose to get that cold and left the heat off.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

March 17, 2013
5:17 AM

Post #9452045

Oh...Sh%t!!!!!

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

March 17, 2013
6:21 AM

Post #9452097

I'm praying the corm is OK. We'll see soon enough.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 23, 2013
2:59 PM

Post #9494766

Did you salvage it Jeri?

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

April 23, 2013
6:58 PM

Post #9495056

What do you think? The blob is firm. I'm still praying!!!

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homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 24, 2013
5:03 PM

Post #9495978

Keep it !!! Go ahead and place it in the Garden? It may have a pup that will get going.

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

April 24, 2013
6:30 PM

Post #9496080

That is what I'm praying but nothing so far.
homer1958
Huntersville, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 25, 2013
3:40 AM

Post #9496377

keep us informed please!

jeri11

jeri11
Central, LA
(Zone 8b)

April 25, 2013
4:01 AM

Post #9496382

I saw a picture of your's a while back and it was flourishing.
Buttoneer
Carlisle, PA
(Zone 6b)

May 24, 2013
3:03 PM

Post #9532754

That is a true albino. Since they have no chlorophyll, the alternative is to fertilize them to give them food and keep out if direct sunlight as you found out, Such a pretty plant.

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