August Already

Rocky Mount, VA(Zone 7a)

Rained hard last night. Quiet here now - Dyson

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Happy Birthday, Sue (Taynors)!

Grand Saline, TX(Zone 7b)

Happy Birthday, Sue. Have a an big slice of cake for me!

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

awwww thank you's...
been so busy at fair i actually forgot LOL
well i think my sexlink chickens have maran in them i have 4 eggs that are dark dark brown.... ohhh lalalalaaaa.
hope everyone is doing well.
i will catch up after fair time
healing thoughts too you all
sue

Rocky Mount, VA(Zone 7a)

Truck died yesterday - looks like the fuel pump gave up - on the bike for awhile.

Biggs, KY(Zone 6a)

Sorry I missed your BD, Sue. Hope you had a great day.

Cocoa, so sorry your garden is done. I hate it when that happens. You work so hard to get it going, then you wait so long for it to bear and before you know it it's all history.

Dyson, hope you get the car fixed soon. Bikes are fun to ride and economical but inconvenient at times.

Rough morning for me. DH is doing great in rehab. He is working hard so he can get his prosthetic. Looks like he will be going home Tuesday. Don't know what things will look like after that. DS and DD came to pick up the boys. They got here yesterday morning at around 2 am. They just crashed here at the hospital. I had wanted to take the boys to a nearby town for a parade yesterday afternoon because the Turtle Man was the grand marshal of the parade and they both LOVE his show on Animal Planet. But it didn't work out. We all spent the day getting the house ready for DH's wheelchair, ect. DS also spent a lot of time spraying weeds and working on the generator. We all spent last night at the hospital with DH and they went back to La this morning at 8:30. It was so hard to see them leave. This is the worst day I have had since all this started.

Adding to my bad day was the fact that I called to talk to my Momma and she didn't know who I was. She has been diagnosed with a brain tumor and now they are pretty sure they have found a breast tumor but will have to do a biopsy to be sure. It's one of those hurry up and wait deals. So frustrating. She is on antiseizure drugs and steroids for the brain tumor. She is usually pretty lucid in the mornings but she had taken her meds late so I will try to call back later.

I have to go home later to feed the animals and milk the goat. Doing the normal, mundane things will be good for me.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

(((((Caj)))))

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

(((( Caj ))))) sending all my healing thoughts to you.
still got 4 days left of fair

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

If you don't have a cellar, what is your plan to store potatoes for the winter or how have you been doing it? (non electrical means)
I didn't grow potatoes this year cause I don't have a way to store them in a place that does not freeze but does not get hot.
I came across some ideas on the net about storing potatoes in a trash can that is mostly buried in the ground and covered with plastic and hay or straw.......I dread the idea of digging a hole in hard clay deep enough for a trash can........but if I start on it now, I might be done by Christmas. LOL. not really but maybe a week.
I want to buy the potatoes that are on sale and store them away for the winter and next year I want to grow a whole bunch that will have to be stored for the winter. I ordered a book and very impatient for it to get here. " The Homesteading Handbook" back to the basics.
I leave my carrots in the ground all winter. I read I could do the same with the potatoes (in my zone) Not sure how it is in other zones.
Sigh.
I have a bunch of cauliflower, broccoli, broc raab, and cabbage plants growing for the winter. I have to sow more seeds this week and next week for later crops. I don't think there is a way to store cauliflower and broccoli for the winter without a refrig or freezer.......is there?
I'm just rambling on with my thoughts now...........i can do that all day , so I will chop it off here.

Happy late Birthday Taynors.


Happy Homesteading


So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Cricket, you can build a berm (above ground) using rectangular hay bales to store potatoes. Make a hollow square of them, put a piece of plywood on top, and bales on top of the plywood. Cover with a tarp. In my mountain area, I might need to have the berm 2 bales thick because I'm a lot colder than your zone. It's important to cover the bales from rain that can freeze the bales, and some folks put their potatoes in a wire basket inside the berm (think hardware cloth) to keep critters out.

You can keep lots of foods in this berm... like carrots and winter squash. Apples need a separate berm due to out-gassing.

Dyson, my truck died this past week too, on the way home from yet more appts. at UVa. No clutch, and expensive to repair. Dang, it's always something!

Richmond, TX

Around here broccoli, cabbage and cauliflower can be grown all winter so storing isn't a problem. I can keep potatoes at room temperature for months by storing them in the dark dusted with lime. And when you get ready to dig your hole, just keep adding a little water, let the clay soften, dig the softened clay out, add water, wait, dig etc. - works well for post holes, ought to work for trash can holes too.

While I was typing Darius came up with a much better solution.

This message was edited Aug 11, 2012 12:33 PM

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

I don't know how long broccoli, cauliflower can be grown in my zone. I have never grown it past November. I will find out this year.


I don't understand potoatoes yet... I was digging a bed and adding bone meal the other day to grow carrots in and came across a few potatoes left behind from last year and the darn thing was a nice firm tator with no insect damage. A whole year 14 inches deep into the soil.
Makes you wonder!======maybe I could store them where they grew and just throw some extra free pine needles over the beds for the winter.
I wonder if storing them in the soil for so long would change their flavor. I did not try to eat those two tators the other day. I tossed them to the side and didn't think nothing of it. Hm.

rambling on again

I have a hole to dig.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Cricket, a hay bale box would be easier, quicker, and easier to manage when you want a few 'taters for supper.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Darius. I like your hay berm storage idea. It will cost about $50 to buy the hay bales. ummm....I can only buy one or the other right now. Potatoes or Hay. BUT.....I have a barn where I can dig a wide deep trench and build this berm and the hay will always be dry and I wouldn't have to worry about the hay sweating and molding out in the open covered with a tarp or plastic. A deep trench would allow me to put a pallet in the bottom to keep the potatoes off the ground and so that I can moisten the ground to keep the potatoes moist without them sitting in water.

I have been checking the temps under my house while the temps were hovering around 100 and above and it was about 76 to 80 under the house in the middle of summer. Late Summer thru Early Winter will be much cooler. The temps are down to 88 and 90 degrees this week and I will check the temp under there again. I may be able to store potatoes under there in burlap covered containers until mid to late winter when I can bring them into the house during the deep freeze of winter and store them in an unheated closet under the stairs. I may not have to dig or build anything but my labor is cheaper than buying hay right now too but it is not ruled out for future projects.

A link I came across......
http://www.kimberly.uidaho.edu/potatoes/CIS1153.pdf

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Cricket, a trench dug in the barn sounds like a good plan to me.

That PDF has some good info, Thanks.

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

funny you all mention storing potato's. i have my La Ratte fingerlings that didn't grow this year :( but are tiny and i was thinking on the best way to store them. ?
well fair is all done and i guess i should get back to projects here at home that have been ignored.
good night folks
see you all tomorrow

Grand Saline, TX(Zone 7b)

Thought I'd check in even though there's not a heck of a lot going on, normal for the dog days of summer. I've read a few books, haven't done that since winter. Got a skirt sewn, it's too pretty to wear doing farm work...guess I'll have to wait for a party.lol Still working on some upholstery projects.

Still don't have any milk to drink, but have plenty for the chickens. It's nice not to have to buy them food. Still need to get Sally Belle to the vet for annual check up and testing. We'd probably be fine drinking the milk, but I'm always cautious. She does have a case of udder mites. I'm getting a handle on those, but it still creeps me out.lol Had to borrow a trailer, a trailer that was pastured and covered in poison ivy. Dh is still a hot itchy mess.lol

Got the field pea plot tilled and it's raining today. Hopefully I can just ride them out as a dry land crop. Fall seedlings are under lights..and that's about it :0) Just waiting for September :0)

Hope everyone else is doing well!

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Thanks for the update! Sorry you don't have drinkable milk yet. :(

I'm busy here, but in the kitchen. I'm canning meats from the freezers because #1, I'm out of freezer space, and #2, I worry about extended power outages. I'm canning pork, venison, sausage patties, bacon, tallow, lard, and a tad of schmaltz so far. I need to get some cream to make butter, then cook it down to ghee and can some of that too. It keeps a long time.

After I get home from the next round of doctor's appointments (I have 6 of them over 2 days at UVa Med Ctr) in mid-September, I plan to get back into cheesemaking. My goat owner friend owes me some milk.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

cocoa......how do you Not buy chicken feed?

taynors, If no cellar, I am guessing under the house out of the heat until it starts freezing deeply this winter. Then insulate them or bring them in under the cabinets where it is cool.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Darius= what cream are you getting to make butter? What is ghee? and is that what you are actually making butter with ----the ghee?

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

all i know is you milk the cow, separate the cream and use the cream to make butter. That is what mama did. She never called anything process by name and I don't remember her cooking cream first to make butter.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Nope, I make butter from the cream just as your mother did. I can get heavy cream from a local dairy, and although it's pasteurized, it makes decent butter. Not as good tasting (or good for us) as cream from grass-fed cows that aren't fed grain, but it's far better than store-bought butter with all the additives.

Ghee is basically a clarified butter, but cooked longer to remove all the moisture and solids.
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/ButterGhee.htm

Grand Saline, TX(Zone 7b)

Darius, that canning sounds like work! I would normally be canning pears and figs this time of year, but both haven't fared well through the summer, bummer. I notice too that our persimmons are fruitless as well. I've decided not to plant anymore fruit or berries till we get a drip system. Hopefully that will be this fall, but finances will decided. Good luck with your tests!

Cricket, I feed the chickens 'clabbered' raw milk. It's a gelatinous yogurt like substance. Highly digestible and nutritious. It's also great to grow pigs on. I also grew corn and sunflowers for them this spring. Of course since I have to buy some cattle feed, I can't say the chicken feed is free. However there is always enough left over milk for our family to still feed the chickens. free enough ;0)

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

been busy with fair
got 1st place in salsa
did i tell you that already?
getting the garden ready for fall
pulled ot all my tomato's didn't get a one !
got 4 buckets of jalepeno's !
and 2 buckets of jimmy nardello sweet peppers
got deer hunters coming to hunt this year. sure hope i can get me some of the meat.
i got some venision from one hunter but don't know how old it is ( got it frozen )? so i m not sure about canning it ? darius any idea ?

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Sue, if it doesn't have freezer burn, I'd go ahead and can it. I'm sure you know to remove all the fat and silverskin that can give it a bad taste.

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

good thing you reminded me that part darius ... :) i would have forgotten that part
busy day today
i m having a plant sale and i hope i get some sales. this is my last one . i will closing my nursery doors for awhile. I can no longer do it all myself . My Dh and i are not agreeing on things and so i m downsizing my jobs and my business.
i will no longer clean houses 20 hrs a week,,, just my own house.
i will no longer run my business of nursery 60 hrs a week ( aprox )
I will not do online sales or coops up to 15 hrs a week .
Kids will have to decide on sports or 4 H but not both. They only get one .
my family is not happy about my decision's but i m at a point of " how the heck cares "
sorry to vent out ... didn't mean too... it just came out ? LOL
great weather today. so lots to get done before i go on strike LOL

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Sue, we all get burned out trying to "do it all".... Good for you on your stance/decisions!

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

thanks
well i got 3 of my buckets of jalepeno's traded for some tomato's , corn and a pie LOL
still waiting on a person who wants garlic to trade more tomato's and another pie :)
so all in all it was a good day .

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Barter is becoming the way to go. Good for you!

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

expecially when pie is involved ! :) mmmmm pie.

Bentonville, AR

Vegetables can be dehydrated and used later to cook with. I have seen lots of videos on it and plan on trying it. My grandparents used to grow potatoes and some of them got brought to the old (unused for yrs) outhouse and covered with hayand burlap. Others got left in the ground and dug up when needed.

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

i love dehydrating my tomato's

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Sue, congrats on the Salsa .

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

thanks Cricket
well i hope you all don't mind me posting this but
court went well
mathew puccio who murdered my DD got life in prison , with chance of parole after 42 yrs... that making him 62 !
the others got the max sentances for their part in it all. We all wish more prison time for them but reality we got lucky and they got the max and not the minimum . so i m happy with it.
crazy busy week with house cleaning. my boss has shingles so i m covering for her. got 10 houses this week ! yikes...
i guess i will freeze my peppers instead of get them pickled or dried.
kids are doing ok. savannah is a bit of edge and has some anxiety about the court stuff... but i think she will be ok.
hope everyone else is doing good.
many smiles
sue

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Sue, I had read on OHRV that court went well. Not that it will bring your daughter back, but at least they aren't free to do it again.

ACV lightly sprayed on shingles helps.

Feels like Fall here, and the nights have dropped as low as 47-48 in our little valley. I'm already doing my usually late Sept-Oct garden cleanup. I'm thinking we might have not only an early winter, but a harder one than in the last few years. Guess I'd better think about more firewood.

none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

good to know on the acv for the shingles , didn't think of that .
i did 13 pints of tomato' juice. i pureed roasted garlic in it the pot when i was boiling the tomot's then. i juiced it the victorio strainer....
its pretty good. but only thinking if it may change the recipe to much processed in BWB for 35 min. wondering if i should have used other method?
have a good day to you all

Belle Center, OH(Zone 5a)

hey folks, sorry I was gone so long. But I'm back now. How's everyone been?

Rocky Mount, VA(Zone 7a)

Nik Things have been real quiet here - Like everyone doing summer stuff - I have been busy trying to help my bil get his new (old) house across the street livable. Hope you have been well.

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Dyson, don't you have enough to do with your own new (old) house? LOL

I've just had some major yard clean-up done that I couldn't do myself. The sumacs in the back yard were taking over, and if you cut or mow them, several more spread from each lateral root. We decided to cut the bigger ones with a chain saw and apply brush killer to the stalks. Those are the "sticks" standing up in the 2nd photo. The smaller ones we mowed and will allow them to grow just enough to get a small leaf canopy, and then spray their leaves with brush killer. I HATE using an herbicide, but if we didn't, the house would be engulfed in a couple more years.

Mike also cleared the creek bank on the house side since my sister's dog got bit by a copperhead. (The dog survived, but just because only one fang fully penetrated.) We don't know where he encountered the snake, most likely across the creek where I'm allowing it to revert back to nature, but I didn't want to take any chances with the creek bank on the house side giving poisonous snakes a hiding place, for the dog... or for me.

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none of ur business, OK(Zone 5b)

quick check in
things are a bit slowing down for us. They will pick up again on tuesday. I start my apple cider pressing job .
here is the tattoo i got for my daughter , her memorial. I will add things along the way to it.
i m selling most of my chickens. I have 14 layers . Sexlinked breed but honestly i am only getting , if i m lucky 7 eggs a day. not worth going to farmers market to sell them. spending more on feed . so i may as well sell them.
Lucy killed one chicken today. It got out and she was also out and well..... couldn't chase her down fast enough to catch her.
darius nice job on the clean up . looks great ! wow on the copper head .. poor dog. i agree on the snake issue. don't want them hiding where i m going to be.
good to see you back Nik . HOpe things are going well for you.
well i m off to bed
night folks
see you all tomorrow cuz its salsa making time ! got 75 lbs of tomatos that have my name on them.
sue

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