The first plant is indeed Ae. Fasciata, there are several cultivars of this plant although this one seems to have some "quilling" going on which leads to slightly misshapen inner leaves. The spineless cv. is "Primera".
The second plant appears to be Bil. pyramidalis although I won't stake my life on it unltil we see a bloom. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/80714/
Remarkable Scott. You are a true Brom lover.
I also read that those Broms that do not have sufficient light "stretch" to reach the light. Possibly the shorter one had more sufficient lighting when growing.