Is it Too hot For my Tomatoes, Chapter II, August 12, 2012

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Here is an extension of the thread because some of you have wanted me to keep this going. It covers 2 years now and maybe will pick it up next year. LOL.

I have put a date on it so if any of you read it by mistake, it is your fault. :0)

Jeanette

Ok guys, here it is and we came from here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/editpost.php?pid=9239588

Have fun, it HAS been a good ride. Jen



This message was edited Aug 12, 2012 10:12 PM

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

When we ended the post earlier it seems like everyone was having weird weather. I haven't, and don't expect to get rain yet. I think it will freeze before it rains here. Hopefully we will get some good tomatoes before that happens. Jen

Amanda, Evelyn, Lee, where are you?

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Go Girl! Glad you figured it out. Makes life simpler for us older folks. Have the time I can't find which thread I answered or how to make one.
So, in Montreal, we have now had rain since Friday, yesterday got sunny and hot then rained again and today is iffy, actually really really damp. It's that August weather - you know when you know that September is around the corner but you are in denial!

I definitely won't grow any of the roma types again. It's my 2nd attempt, altho a different one and it's not worth it. I need some toms that are good for my zone. My Gold Medals are growing and are going to be huge, if all holds out. LIke I said, they came from a cousin who has a farm north of Montreal, so they should be good. But they are late, so....
Don't think I will try Better Boy again either. It's hit and miss. My cherries are doing really well except for SW100's. I don't know, they look fragile this year.
Sharon
ps are you growing beans or eggplant? I didn't realize how long beans take and my eggplants are growing, altho I don't even really like them. Have no idea why I'm growing them except one of my son's really likes them....

Dahlonega, GA

Good girl ,Jnette . I'm here too

Greensboro, NC(Zone 7b)

I'm here Jen.

We are getting some nice tomatoes from the plants I put in across the street for my neighbor in her raised beds.

These were plants given to me by a fellow DG'r I met at the Greensboro Round Up in June.

Amish Paste, a pear tomato that grows in bunches like cherry tomatoes, a roma - maybe two. Can't remember the name of the last one.

I grew some from seed, but due to the start of new job didn't get them in the ground as soon as they should have been - but they may have a couple of fruits - who knows?! We're having nice temps overnight and I think may be just right for setting fruit. Beefsteak, "1/4 Century" (this is a HUGE plant), Razzleberry, Roma.

I am still getting some of the haricort vert beans, no luck yet with butternut squash or eggplants, but again . . . prolly too late . . . I have pepperplants that I delayed but are now blooming in their pots. Did I say this already? Anaheim and jalapeno, large cherry peppers, hungarian hot wax, purple bell, I think that's it.

I will be starting greens for my iguana in another neighbor's raised beds. HA. Court is considering a couple of raised beds in the front yard for next year's tomatoes. It's the only place we get full sun all day long.

Then again, if I get my act together, maybe I can get a couple of nice buckets going in the driveway if I REALLY plan it right. Tired of getting it wrong, and I am getting tired of growing giant tomato plants too late in the season for fruit to mature. :/

(you KNOW I'm a flower child so I get distracted).

Oh - also have some lemon cucumbers growing vigorously out back, lots of flowers - hoping for a bumper crop soon . . ...

A.

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Anyone planting garlic? I want to but haven't had luck in the past. Anyone?
S

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Amanda, I can't believe how many vegetable plants you are planting for as busy as you are. That is amazing.

Sharon, I had a nice garlic bed, second year, and was really looking forward to harvesting this month, when the moles got them a couple weeks ago. Should have put down 1" chicken wire and weed block first. Live and learn. Next time. It was really exciting watching them tho. (yes a raised bed)

I would try again if I knew where to put them. I am going to change things around for next year so not too sure. Also, have decided to grow my tomatoes in earthbuckets. I try everything in case you haven't noticed.





North Shore of L. I., NY(Zone 6b)

I have noticed that the tomato plants are not bloomung as much as they had been earlier but otherwise they are doing great this year. Maybe the plants needed a vacation!

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Amanda, you are very ambitious. I'm tired from just reading what you're doing!!!
Jen, we often plant garlic in the fall for next year. But not sure if it's still too early, seeing as it isn't fall yet, but I think the bulbs are out in the garden centers. You are very ambitious with what you use for planting, but hey, when it's a question of space, sun and time, all bets are off!
S

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Sharon, yeah I planted those last October. I had planted cloves from 2 bulbs the year before and last year I used those to plant in October. Had over 50 plants. Those are what I was going to harvest last week that the moles got. I will probably skip this year, as I don't know where I will move my bed to. But then again, I was just talking to DH about it and have a plan but not until it cools off in September. So- - - - - . I don't need a lot, and I think most of the sellers sell in half pounds. Think about $10 per 1/2 lb. Think that is about 7 or 8 bulbs. Not sure. Well, that might give me about right huh? I planted about 50 last year but that was by starting with 2 bulbs the year before. I wouldn't want to start with 2 again.

Funny, I had put some horseradish in there in one end of the garlics and they are ok. Guess the moles don't like horseradish.

Dahlonega, GA

Jnette , did you ever get any rhubarb from Russ ? Mine comes up every year but dies back before it gets 8" high .

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

No Sally I didn't. I only like it in Rhubarb Cake and Bob doesn't like it at all so I didn't. Plus I could get some from my sister if I wanted any.

I would say it isn't cold enough in the winter then. Too bad. You will have to do like we do with okra etc. Buy it frozen.

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Hey Jen, hope you are ok. Saw th e news last night about all the fires in Washington state, so I. Hoping you and your family are ok. The weather has gotten a bit dreary here. Just let us know how you are doing.
Sharon

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Thanks for asking Sharon. We are fine so far. The fires are closer to the West coast, actually, just this side of the mountain range from Seattle. Between Seattle and us. So, a long distance from us. Couple hundred miles. I do feel sorry for the people there. A lot of small resort towns. I hope they will be ok.

Now, if we get electrical storms, dry lightening, that is when it gets bad. Lightening can hit anywhere and we have forests everywhere here.

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Glad to hear you're ok! I was worried. I feel so badly to see how much destruction the fire caused over all.

In any event, some thing is definitely attacking some of my tomatoes found another creature on a leaf like a small caterpillar and I'm finding small cherries eaten through. AAAHHHH!!!!

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Are the cherries fallen on the ground? I used to get slugs cleaning out the plums and also the yellow jackets. They were awful.

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Yes the cherries are on the ground. Some have holes in them from being eaten and others are just lying there basically untouched. In the meantime, my Green Zebra has all these weird brown markings on skin. Honestly,, this tomato has continually defied me for years!

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Hey, Jen, how's it going? I might have to chop down one of my better boys. Mr. Stripey almost got blown over, although I'm not sure it made a difference.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

LOL, well, I am getting one (1) cherry tomato ripe!! A Sun Sugar. The big ones are starting to turn white, so, I might be in the ball park of last years date. I looked and had my first ripe one on August 31. It will be later this year, but everything seems to be running about a week to 10 days later this year. Think we will at the beach for Christmas in a few years.

Greensboro, NC(Zone 7b)

That's interesting Jen - because everything HERE is running 2 - 3 weeks or more early. Not my veggies of course, because I'm a bad veggie momma, but flowers, blooming, fruiting.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Amanda, it has turned cold!! Down almost to the 60s by tomorrow. Then back to 80 on the weekend. Other than that, suppose to be in the mid 70s. A lot lower than the past couple of weeks. Maybe my tomatoes will think that winter is on the way and ripen, OR, maybe they will decide not to bother?? Wouldn't that be gross.

Yes, the weather lady said they are having lightening storms in Spokane and then heading this way. It rained a little bit ago.

Southern NJ, United States(Zone 7a)

All of my veggies are running early, too, and our magnolia, after blooming in the spring as usual before its leaves unfurled, bloomed lushly again about a month ago while it was in full leaf. That has NEVER happened before.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Wonder what is going on?? I sure hope we don't have an early winter. That would mean it would last 6 months. How gross is that!!

Greensboro, NC(Zone 7b)

Hmm. What is going on, is that weather patterns are changing - without using that politically charged phrase - and weather extremes (heat, storms, drought, and flooding) will be the norm from now on.

It's going to impact us all in ways you may never have thought, but obviously with the drought in the breadbasket this year the cost of food is going to go sky high next year. You'd better put some climate controls in your greenhouse so you can grow your own year round!

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

The produce would have to get awfully expensive to be cost effective with the price of heat for a greenhouse in this country I'm afraid. Don't know what would be worse. Jen

Laceys Spring, AL(Zone 7a)

I laughed last year about my tomatoes probably costing $20/lb but I can't say that this year (maybe). Although if I figured out my hourly rate into that I'm not so sure, lol! I just call it dirt therapy and go on. Anyway, we had a fantastic garden year this year and it's still going thanks to the good rains we have been getting and cooler temps than we had in early July. Thankfully the hot dry temps didn't last.

Early tomatoes were as big as grapefruit and thankfully that didn't last either or I would begin to wonder about the seed I ordered. I'm not much on posting pictures, but I do have proof in the way of photos. The later ones are more reasonably sized and I have made sauce, salsa, frozen, canned, and given away countless tomatoes much to the delight of my friends, coworkers and neighbors who don't garden anymore. Despite the squash bugs winning, I still picked 2 squash the other day. Red peppers look like beauties from the store and I've been roasting and putting them up too. The raccoon and I have had a couple of cantaloupe. Can't keep him away from the garden. He enjoys playing with the critter trap and has his picture taken on occasion with the game cam. :~( He and the deer and rabbits are also the reason I don't grow much else. However the fence DH erected this year seemed to help with the deer problem. Now on to fight the late blight! But I'm tired....

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

You're tired, do you have a break before planting your next garden? I know some of the people in Texas are already sowing seeds etc. for the next ones. I don't think I would like that. One crop is enough. I like the break, but it is just too long a break some times.

I think we appreciate the nice ripe tomatoes when we do get them more than if we had them year round. We can hardly wait for the first BLT. We finally bought some from a local farmer today so will have them tonight!! Doubt if they will be as good as our own tho. The vendors usually plant for weight (juice). I plant for flavor and of course length of time. Short season.

Laceys Spring, AL(Zone 7a)

Yes, we have a break. Although I do fall gardening with the perennials needing attention. That's when I usually turn to my shrub beds and divide other things that need tending. Plus get things ready in my vegetable garden for next year...manure and mulch on the garden after I pull up the plants, etc. I don't usually plant a fall garden as I'm pretty much tired by then and it's iffy for me. We're pretty busy in the fall as we try to travel some and are gone a lot on weekends which is when I mostly have time to devote to the garden.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Well then you are pretty much on the same schedule I am. Glad to hear it. I really do appreciate the rest before starting all over again. As I said tho, I just wish it weren't such a long rest. :0)

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Honestly, if I had to maintain my garden through another growing season, I'd probably rp my hair out. I'm ready to chop dwn the perennials, rip out the annuals, and I'm getting fed up with waiting for the toms to ripen before the weather changes! It's starting to get bit cooler. But the days are warm, so just hoping it will all be worth it. My green beans haven't been great and the eggplants are slow slow slow. All this sun and heat, and not such a bounty! I look forward to a break so I can figure out how I'm going to torture myself next year! Seriously thinking about starting some tomatoes from seed....

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Well, I am about in the same boat. What I don't understand is Sharon in Massachusetts, zone 5, has gotten so many tomatoes. Why is that? I would not think her weather is any, or much different, than ours. Unless she is getting all cherry tomatoes. I don't think she said that. Maybe she will hop in here and tell us.

But yes, they are predicting almost all in the mid 70s and the night time temps in the low to mid 50s with one or 2 in the 40s. So, maybe our tomatoes will think it is getting winter and start ripening. Ya think?

It has been in the 90s for almost 2 weeks now. So, what gives?

Don't rip out your perennials and annuals. I am getting kind of tired of watering and fertilizing them too. My DH just went down to water the tomatoes. They are really hanging.

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

The only thing I can figure out is Massachusettes did have more rain tha us, at least I think so. I don't know it would help to know where she is located. Generally, I remember for my early university days a hundred years ago, Boston being very humid. So I guess it's location,location location...
I have started to cut down some perennials that are finished and today I started removing some nasty looking stems from the toms. It's threatening to rain, but it does that and nothing happens and it's supposes to get very hot again. I have started topping off the cherries, which, I might add, I have gotten a lot of cherries, but not like last year. The extremes heat just seemed to bring everything to a halt. My Tigerella are finally starting. But I'm not really crazy about them. Still waiting for the gold medals to ripen. They are huge!!!! I'm so excited!

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Well, hang in there. Some of my largest ones are starting to ripen. Probably be a week to 10 days yet, but they will.

I think she has picked mainly cherry tomatoes. Don't know if they all, 300 of them, are off of one plant or not. That would be a very productive plant. I used to grow Sweet Millions and they were good tomatoes.

Maybe she will jump in here and tell us which ones she is getting so many off of.

Montreal, QC(Zone 5b)

Jen , here is another source
http://www.southernexposure.com/our-seed-growers-ezp-138.html
They have Amish paste seeds.
DoGooder said it is a cherry plant.

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

I don't think I will try the Amish Paste. It really doesn't do well for me.

I looked at her pictures, and that plant is amazing. Or I should say, what she has done with it is amazing. To get that many tomatoes and still have that many on the plant is really something. It will be fun to see how many she ends up with. Hope she keeps track. She should enter it in the Ginis Book of Records. Lol, don't know how to spell it. She may have a record.

Dahlonega, GA

Jnette , where is that pictyre , I want to see it .

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

Here it is Sally. She said she has already picked over 300 off of it. Also said, you can read it cause I don't remember who, has picked over 1400 from her plant. Now, you also must know she puts vinegar on her plants. Maybe she doesn't need to put salad dressing on them then. :0)

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1264248/#new

Jen

Northeast, WA(Zone 5a)

I forgot to tell you I think she posted it yesterday and it is up probably a dozen or so posts. jen

Dahlonega, GA

O K read it and I had the sweet millions last year . They grew to about 12' long . Good flavor , just like big toms . This year I put out some volunteer sprouts that came up in a gift plant . Two different toms , two are like golf balls and the other three are like mini Roma's . I picked one about the size of a large marble and bit into it , boy , was it firm . Too small to grow for a paste tom and not soft and juicy enough to eat fresh

Greensboro, NC(Zone 7b)

Why does she put vinegar on the plants?

Someone gave me a pear tomato this spring and it has the prettiest almost yellow fruits and grow in clusters almost like grape tomatoes.

I will put more effort into my vegetable crops next year. I really am more of a flower child. Ain't it a shame.

A.

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