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    Forum: Plant IdentificationReplies: 8, Views: 99
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    sweetpea3829
    Penn Yan, NY

    August 13, 2012 3:52 PM

    Post #9240422

    Hi, I am trying to identify these two plants. I thought the dark blue berry one was a huckleberry, but the berries don't have crowns and the inside shows four large seeds, not ten large seeds.

    And I have no idea what the plant with the light blue berries might be.

    We are in the Finger Lakes region of Upstate NY. Any ideas?

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    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    August 13, 2012 5:59 PM

    Post #9240539

    First one is a Buckthorn Rhamnus cathartica - an invasive weed in your area.

    Resin

    medlarman

    medlarman
    Fairfax, VA (Zone 7a)

    August 13, 2012 6:20 PM

    Post #9240575

    The second one, with the light blue berries, looks familiar. Is it sort of viney, or more of a bush?
    sweetpea3829
    Penn Yan, NY

    August 13, 2012 6:33 PM

    Post #9240601

    So the first one is NOT good eats, then? Too bad...there's lots of it.

    The second one is very similar to the first...high shrub, but it has a reddish on some of the branches. I wouldn't call it viney, no.

    I'm assuming the berries darken as they ripen?

    ViburnumValley

    ViburnumValley
    Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)

    August 13, 2012 8:08 PM

    Post #9240718

    Second and third images are likely one of the shrubby dogwoods. Do they have opposite foliage?

    Maybe you could show some pictures of the whole plants...
    sweetpea3829
    Penn Yan, NY

    August 13, 2012 8:16 PM

    Post #9240729

    I'm not really sure what it means to have opposite foliage. I know very little about plants and whatnot. We just moved to this agricultural region from a city region and all of this is new to us.

    I'll try and get a picture of the whole plant tomorrow. Are there Dogwood species that have bluish colored berries? Googling has been fruitless (HAH) because the search terms inevitably bring up blueberries. I doubt that's what they are, though it would be nice.

    ViburnumValley

    ViburnumValley
    Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)

    August 14, 2012 5:13 AM

    Post #9240922

    Try googling for Shrub Dogwood - there are Cornus species with bluish fruit as you've shown that are native in the northeast.

    Cornus amomum is one; see here. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31674/

    Opposite foliage means that the points of attachment of leaves along the stem of the plant are opposite each other, making the leaves look like they occur in pairs.

    This term is in contrast to alternate arrangement of leaves, where the point of leaf attachment occurs singly and the leaves appear to alternate along the stem.

    Some common plants you may recognize: Maple has opposite leaf arrangement; Oak has alternate leaf arrangement.

    Urban versus rural/agricultural doesn't matter to plants - they don't discriminate amongst their stewards. And you have found a pretty sweet place to land - Penn Yan is right in the midst of a bunch of alternately arranged Vitis vinifera. I've sipped a few flavors from the Keuka Lake bounty.

    Salut!

    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    August 14, 2012 3:16 PM

    Post #9241585

    sweetpea3829 wrote:So the first one is NOT good eats, then? Too bad...there's lots of it.


    Yep, right - it's Latin name isn't cathartica for nothing!

    Its purgative effect has been described as 'violent'.

    Resin
    minnesippi
    Oakdale, MN (Zone 4a)

    August 15, 2012 9:56 AM

    Post #9242336

    could be (the 2nd one) Silky Dogwood (Cornus amomum)
    http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31674/

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