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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 14, 2012
4:16 PM

Post #9241637

Here is what I was talking about with the surface stuff. The first two I used the hose to push the stuff toward the falls, and in the third one you can see what it looks like if I don't. Of course the clear shot of the milk crates isn't exactly feng shui, but what the heck if it makes my lilies bloom I am fine with that.

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 14, 2012
4:23 PM

Post #9241643

Mary

It looks more like a foam/bubbles to me. Is it?


Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 14, 2012
5:53 PM

Post #9241724

Yes, but there is also some sort of teeny tiny stuff with it. I know that we have discussed oxygen issues but it is more than that. Not really a big deal. Still going to try my pea gravel idea. Just wanted to see if the clarity of the water was like yours, and if the surface had the same sort of stuff on it.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 15, 2012
1:46 AM

Post #9241985

Mary

I don't have the bubbles, but I do have them in the early Spring.

I noticed since DH has been ill and not cleaning twice weekly or adding the enzymes twice weekly, that we have some of the little bits of free floating algae in our pond. I also think the free floating algae happens every time we get hot, hot and it has been a very hot summer for us.

Looking at your photos, I don't think your clarity is bad at all - it looks great.



Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 15, 2012
8:45 AM

Post #9242250

Oh yes. Clarity isn't the problem at all, just that the stuff on the top kind of ruins the look of the pond and distracts from the clarity. It is possible if I backed off to a smaller pump in the skimmer the falls wouldn't be so forceful. I thought having a larger pump would pull the surface (as in skimming) in better but it made no difference. "Enzymes twice weekly"? PL? Is that what you use. I have it but only add once a month. That would be an easy albiet expensive fix.
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 15, 2012
3:11 PM

Post #9242679

Oberon,
Your pond sure looks great to me.
Bonnie
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 15, 2012
3:50 PM

Post #9242714

Thanks Bonnie. Hope your pond(s) are shaping up and you are feeling hale and hearty. You've had quite a spring.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 15, 2012
5:14 PM

Post #9242829

Mary

We have backed off to once a week with the enzymes.

I noticed earlier this week, we had the free floating bits of algae in the water. Today and yesterday were a bit cooler and that floating bits of algae is gone and the water is clear.

I would try the pea gravel and see how it goes.

Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 15, 2012
6:52 PM

Post #9242955

I went into the pond a couple of days ago to lift the lilies on milk crates and to clean the bottom. I had noticed that I had a really weird algar, especially in the deep part. I is like a strong net, kind of like when you try to pull fiberglass insulation apart. Not as slimy as the usual stuff. I used Algaway and cleaned out manually. It appears to be gone.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2012
1:44 AM

Post #9243163

Did the surface quality start after that or was it going on before as well?
dax080
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

August 16, 2012
4:02 AM

Post #9243190

Hi - I use a product called No More Foam -- I have an 18' pond and use about a 1/2 bottle once a month, so not too expensive. Not sure what's in it -- here's a pic of pond -- Dax

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Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 16, 2012
9:25 AM

Post #9243456

Your pond is beautiful. We simply run out of words to describe so many lovely things we see here at DG. What is the short green stuff with tiny white flowers around the edge. It looks like it grows in the rocks. Thanks for the tip on No more foam. I will look it up and give it a try. - Mary
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 16, 2012
9:27 AM

Post #9243459

opsss. Sorry Carolyn. Was so taken with Dax's pond I forgot your question. No, the weird algae was not coincidental with the foam and clarity issue. That has been present forever. Algae is new - at least this stuff. Really hope it goes away. The only new thing is the exposure of the sides (liner) due to redesign, some plants from TWL. That's about it. It could be some weird seed that blew in and grew maybe.
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

August 16, 2012
11:41 AM

Post #9243585

Dax...the No-Foam works well. Foam is usually from protien, either plant or animal...So if you have frogs spawning, or koi /goldfish spawning, etc, you can get bubbles on the surface from water agitation (such as a water fall or bubbler) It makes the bubbles heavier to pop immediately, and not linger on the surface.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 16, 2012
11:45 AM

Post #9243591

Okay. that makes sense. but everyone doesn't use the foam killer stuff -- for instance you and you have bunches of spawning fish?
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

August 16, 2012
4:55 PM

Post #9243996

Spawning with koi once a year...but toads/frogs allllll summer long, every single night. Twice a night if it rains! :)
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 16, 2012
5:06 PM

Post #9244014

yeshhhh. Ah well I got a really pretty picture of Ann Epple today. Almost looks phony it is so dead on and vibrant.

I looked and this picture doesn't do it justice like the original pic

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2012
5:07 PM

Post #9244015

And goldfish spawn all the time...

Dax - your pond and gardens are always so gorgeous!
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2012
5:08 PM

Post #9244017

Beautiful Mary!
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 4b)

August 16, 2012
5:12 PM

Post #9244027

I am hoping raising the tubs will do the trick. I am so excited. I have lots of blossoms on one plant and a couple of two of the others. Really hoping that they are a different lily. Thanks to everyone for the ideas.
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 19, 2012
11:28 AM

Post #9246663

Dax & Oberosn,
Your ponds look great.

Oberon that lilly is just beautiful.

Bonnie

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