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somethingwright
Walters, MN

September 16, 2012
12:28 AM

Post #9276394

Hello,

My husband woke up this morning covered in bites, and 19 hours later I took these pictures. (The photos really don't do the actual bites justice when compared to seeing the bites in person)

He describes the bites as itchy, and a little burning sensation, but that probably comes from scratching at them & irritating the bites, despite his best attempts not to.

This was his first night home from travelling, and I do worry about bed-bugs, however he shared a two bed room with his father who did not get any of these bites. This morning after sharing the same bed I had no bites. My children in the house have no bites either.

He has probably (Conservatively) at least 50 bites covering his legs, arms, shoulders, feet, and even one behind an ear. We also have cats and dogs that are indoor/outdoor animals, however the vet said that fleas generally prefer animals to humans and it would have to be a sizeable infestation for the fleas to be on people. (I do use frontline and advantix on our animals)

As the day has gone on the redness has spread making the bites change from smaller more "pinpointed" type marks to larger ones, and are "hard" to the touch when I applied some anti-itch cream.

Some of the bites look to have a double pinprick point where maybe 2 fanges would have pierced the skin, while others only seem to have one, and even others have no discernable "entrance" point.

The only other observation I can list is that while not occuring in perfect rows, the bites do seem to have a pattern of occuring in "lines" anywhere from 1/2 to 3" apart. Along both of his back shoulders running down either his arms for example are "groups" of about 8-10 bites per side, each where you could imagine a critter of some sort "running along"

He saw a spider in our room tonight that he said was one of the fastest he has ever seen and he was able to catch it and I snapped a photo. (Being from Minnesota it is that lovely time of year when it is warm during the day, and cold at night causing many critters to seek shelter inside) He said the spider was very aggressive and actually "reared up" raising its front legs and fangs. When we flipped the spider over, the fangs seem especially large for the size of the spider which I would estimate to be approx 1cm in it's "curled up" dead position that can be seen in the photo. (But the fangs do seem un-remarkable when the spider is right-side up)

Please let us know if it is possible for one spider to inflict so many bites, or if the bites could be from fleas, or chiggers, or bed-bugs, or what the heck is going on! And if a spider, please let us know what species if possible.

I'm not really an anti-spider or bug person for the most part, I just prefer to seem them outdoors where God intended!

Thank you very much in advance for any insight you may have regarding our mysterious attacker!



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sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

September 16, 2012
2:13 AM

Post #9276407

It seems unusual to me that a spider would stay on a person and inflict many bites.

Was he in any woods or fields recently?
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

September 16, 2012
3:32 AM

Post #9276418

The spider appears to be a harmless grass spider - compare its eye pattern with http://bugguide.net/node/view/85838 - it would not be responsible for these 'bites.'
somethingwright
Walters, MN

September 16, 2012
10:31 AM

Post #9276665

Yes He has been outdoors in mostly tall grass and fields possibly woods?

He left last Tues from Minnesota, spent night in North Dakota Motel, Continued to Havre Montana where he stayed the night.

The next days (Wed 12th & Thurs 13th) he was in Rockey Boy Indian Reservation (Bear Paw Mountain area of Montana) prepping jobsites for some underground utility construction we will be doing there next week.

Thursday night was another North Dakota sleep-over.

He Returned home Friday, and still had no evidence of any bites until Saturday Morning.

Who knows for sure how many places he stopped along the way as well, (emergency rest-stops and such as it is a 19 hour drive 1 way)

Thank you for helping, and please let us know if you can identify the culprit if it is not the spidey!
somethingwright
Walters, MN

September 16, 2012
10:34 AM

Post #9276668

Oh, and yes I think you are right Flapdoodle, the eye pattern and even the stripey pattern on the abdoman? Thorax? (so sorry I really know very little about bugs / spiders) is also a match.

That brings me back to being creeped out again because it's certainly still an unsolved mystery... Please help! Thank you!
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

September 16, 2012
10:34 AM

Post #9276669

It is very difficult to identify a specific culprit unless you actually catch/see something in the act of biting. Also, there are several other causes of minor skin lesions that can look very much like bug bites.
somethingwright
Walters, MN

September 16, 2012
10:43 AM

Post #9276673

I would like to agree with you, but because of the "tracking" pattern these bite marks seem to have (you can visualize something crawling along and taking a chomp every 1/2" to two inches or so) I am thinking it is probably not a "skin condition" or random allergic reaction.

On the otherhand, I am worried he is "stressed" and perhaps it is auto-immune related or something like that?

And after thinking long and hard, I think that something like this happened to him once before, down to the 1-2 day dely from travelling and then "cropping up" after being back home on a different trip he had to take to Missouri (I think) about 3-5 months ago?
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

September 16, 2012
12:11 PM

Post #9276742

A trip to Missouri could have involved contact with chiggers, but such would not have occurred with the recent travel history. Night-biting flies (mosquitoes and biting midges ('punkies') also are possible causes.
2vernes
Blytheville, AR
(Zone 7a)

September 16, 2012
12:34 PM

Post #9276752

Sometimes chigger bites won't show up for 24 hours.

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

September 16, 2012
7:52 PM

Post #9277224

It's also possible that the bites caused a case of hives on top of it all. You said you noticed some of them did not have actual 'entrance' site? Has he been to a Dr.?
Krislinds3636
Fallbrook, CA

September 18, 2012
11:08 AM

Post #9278960

Could be chiggers. Not sure why no one got bites but...
My husband was traveling in Central America and his feet and ankles got covered in chigger bites. He was miserable. A friend took him to a guy who makes an herbal concoction of tropical herbs. It's called Mayan Oil. Yo can check out the website at http://mayanoil.com. This stuff really works. He got relief from the itching within seconds and the next day they were barely visible. He couldn't believe it. You should try it. Hope it helps.
Krislinds3636
Fallbrook, CA

September 18, 2012
11:11 AM

Post #9278965

Just noticed that he was walking in tall grasses. It is almost certainly chigger bites. Mayan Oil will help! Http://mayanoil.com
texaslady62
DISH, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 23, 2012
4:16 AM

Post #9283676

I don't know how it got there, but I can bet that is a brown recluse. When I saw the image I thought it was, then just to be positive I looked it up. We have really had a problem with them here this year, I have been bitten a few times already. Their venom can react different ways, depending on the person, and the spider, wether it is young are adult. I have seen them make hideos holes in people, and other reactions, then, in other people like myself, they just make small festering spots that just keep festering until whenever, then the spot will just get itchy and flake forever. I sure hope you are one of the ones that is a little immune to the bite.
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

September 23, 2012
6:12 AM

Post #9283761

The spider at the start of this thread most definitely is NOT a brown recluse, or any other member of that family for that matter.

kwanjin

kwanjin
West Valley City, UT
(Zone 7a)

September 23, 2012
10:30 AM

Post #9283952

I agree, NOT a recluse. The eye pattern is all wrong, for one, and the legs are striped whereas a BR does not have that. I see nothing that says BR.

trackinsand

trackinsand
mid central, FL
(Zone 9a)

September 23, 2012
5:31 PM

Post #9284322

my vote is for chiggers or poison ivy. take a daily soak in cool vinegar water. if he gets worse, go to an ER clinic.
helenchild
Decatur, GA

September 23, 2012
7:42 PM

Post #9284437

To avoid chigger bites drink an ounce or two of pickle juice before you go out. Works like a charm.
Not much use after the bites though!
SuziQ4u
Winter Park, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 27, 2013
10:50 PM

Post #9434222

Old thread, I hope he is feeling better. You thought it occurred once before, and are aware of stress flares relevant to a wide range auto-immune disorders. If it occurs again, a biopsy via a dermatologist could prove enlightening.

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