I never peeled garlic before planting and I had very successful harvests.
But I cannot tell you if you will have a better bulb if you DO peel the cloves ... I just never done it because the bulbs grew just fine.
Good luck !
With the exception of beans and peas, Garlic is great to plant all over the garden, even beneath your fruit trees to prevent fungus. I also repels aphids and may even repel moles. I plant my Garlic 2 to 3 inches deep since I am in zone 4a at over 7600 feet altitude, and I mulch it heavily over winter. I grew it for the first time this year, and had a great harvest with an heirloom German Hardneck variety, and enjoyed harvesting the scapes when they started curling, cooking with the chopped scapes. Mmmm.
I never peeled before planting for 25 years and the garlic grew just fine. Then my field got hit with a nasty allium fungus (lasts in the soil for many years), so I prepared a new area for planting away from the other part of the garden and used a sanitizing regimen for planting. I peeled the cloves of a rare variety I wanted to keep and dipped them in rubbing alcohol before planting. the fungus was not trasnfered to my new plot using this method. The plants grew just fine, no better or worse when the cloves were not peeled.
The only thing with peeling is bruising or damaging the bulbs in the process. I just poke a hole and place the bulb in without peeling. The peeling is considered the "seed coating" and the plant is able to break through it when emerging.
This site says [quote] "What do you do about the cloves where the paper skin comes off as you are separating them? This happens to me a lot when I prepare to plant. Part or most of the paper wrapper will separate from the clove. Can you still plant these?"
What a great question! Garlic bulbs naturally shrink as they cure, and then shrink more in storage. This is the natural course of things, because dormancy lasts only so long, and the cloves must get busy changing into new plants. This natural shrinkage makes garlic cloves easier to peel, but naked cloves are not what you want in your garden. The wrapper/skins contain chemical compounds that do various things – inhibit the emergence of a sprout until roots have formed, deter invasive microbes, and probably leach "come hither" signals to appropriate strains of garlic-friendly bacteria.
The article has much other information if interested. Kristi
Thanks, Podster for the link-it is very informative. I have always added steer manure before planting, but have read some posts that said not to. i am just about ready to plant my garlic. Our 1st frost came early yesterday- so all my tender garden is gone. I have been pulling plants all week, and now must complete the task.
I put in my garlic far too early here, and now it's growing scapes wheneve my back is turned. I'm hoping they do their vigilant job of keeping the bugs (and vampires) out of the garden, at least, but just another lesson for me in subtropical gardens.
I've decided to plant some of my garlic harvest inside the greenhouse for the anti-fungal properties. I don't peel it, by the way.
I ordered another type of hardneck for next season, but was notified that there's a phytoplasma? problem with garlic this year, so will not plant it near anything else this year. I was hoping to plant garlic beneath my fruit trees, but not if there is a possible phytoplasma problem, I think not. I may plant some of last year's garlic beneath the trees. Best get to it asap, 'cause it was 23 degrees here this morning. Aarghhhh.
[quote="Solace"]I've decided to plant some of my garlic harvest inside the greenhouse for the anti-fungal properties.[/quote]
Is there actually any evidence that planted garlic will do anything?
In cooking, you have to cut it or mash it even to make the "healthy" compound in garlic active. Old herbal descriptions of garlic use always described the process of mashing the raw cloves as the first step in preparation. We now know that the breaking of garlic cells releases an enzyme (allicinase) that then transforms the inactive compound alliin into an active form (allicin). That's why baked or especially microwaved garlic, while it is pleasant to eat, lacks the active compounds and healthy properties found in other cooked types.
Yes I know it's counter-intuitive. We've all been fed the philosophy of "best is raw, next best is least processed". Biology cares not a whit for our philosophy. I find it refreshing to remember that nature was here first and operates well without us - or our interpretations, prejudices and fantasies.
I have plenty of pests that can bite into the garlic to release that allicin, which I understand has some pesticidal properties or at the very least, is a pest deterrent, as well...but who knows? If there's garlic growing around every aspen and fruit tree on the place, next summer, at least I will have tried. :)
[quote="Solace"]I have plenty of pests that can bite into the garlic to release that allicin, which I understand has some pesticidal properties or at the very least, is a pest deterrent[/quote]
I really don't enjoy bursting bubbles, but I don't like people to be disappointed by false expectations either.
Allicin, once produced and exposed to air, has a very short period of activity unless it is "fixed" (e.g. in oil or somehow otherwise preserved, if you'll pardon the perfumery reference).
There's still plenty of time to replant your garlic! Go buy a bag of garlic from your local Sam's Club/Costco, or the Farmer's Market, or down in the French Quarter at one of the stands, or from a local producer, or from a nearby Whole Foods Store that sells organic.
I haven't planted mine yet -- nor have I purchased it! I'm going to Sam's Club. First time planting garlic, and, I'm growing my own onion transplants for planting in late December-mid January.
But, I DID score enough FREE CEDAR today to make my garlic/onion planting beds!
rjogden, thanks for the info and valuable opinions on things. I have also used crushed garlic mixed with murphy's oil soap and water to spray around for pests. I'm not an expert, though, but if something works I tend to keep doing it. If not, it's history. :)
I have about 150 garlic cloves that are ready to plant, but the space is still being used by some late corn. So today I put them in some temporary homes so they can get some roots started. I just put them deep enough to be covered, about 2" apart. Then when their permament bed is ready and enriched with steer manure compost, they should have a bit of a head start for the winter. I always have real good luck, and I just use grocery store garlic.
Gymgirl, I too am growing seed onions-WallaWalla- they are doing great, about the thickness of a drinking straw. Before a hard freeze comes I will dig them up and plant them somewhere protected-as yet unknown!
Gymgirl, The Siberian seeds I ordered finally came in today (backorder issue on another product). I will drop them in the mail tomorrow. Congrats on the free cedar!
I will be growing garlic for the first time this year. I am planning on planting sometime in November?!? I have two varieties I ordered from Jung Seeds (Not the company that had the back order issues).
Here in New Orleans, I planted my garlic about 10 days ago. I had purchased a warm winter assortment from Gourmet Garlic. I checked on them this morning & several have little green shoots coming up!
The assortment I received included Early Red Italian, Applegate Giant, Inchelium Red, Rogue River Red, and Native Creole. I had no idea there were so many different varieties of garlic!! It'll be interesting, in 7-8 months, to see how the tastes differ.
It definitely feels too warm for garlic, but I'll give it another try in a few weeks and leave the others in the ground. Maybe it'll serve against the bugs? Last year, it didn't freeze ever, so who knows what'll come around!
Thanks for the encouragement, y'all, it'll all work out one way or another.
I usually plant my garlic on Halloween. When I first moved down here to NE Texas one of the locals told me that was the traditional date to plant garlic in this area. I works for me as it is easy to remember and garlic kind of associates with Halloween. Ward of the werewolves, plant garlic--or is that vampires? We are supposed to have very near to a full moon on H'ween this year. Perhaps I'll plant to the moonlight! With the coyotes (erzatz werewolves) howling in the background. Then go in and watch "Young Frankenstein", my favorite Halloween movie!
By the way, I don't peal my garlic before planting either...
What's the planting medium for the garlic bed? I'm going to build the frame for a small bed this weekend, and have a couple bags of MG garden soil and some leftover pine bark fines to fill it. I'm thinking I should add a bag of composted manure or some Black Kow compost.
[quote="Gymgirl"]What's the planting medium for the garlic bed? I'm going to build the frame for a small bed this weekend, and have a couple bags of MG garden soil and some leftover pine bark fines to fill it. I'm thinking I should add a bag of composted manure or some Black Kow compost.[/quote]
Linda, in your earlier post you mentioned the free cedar -- how are you planning to use that?
Oops, forgot to ask: any thoughts on planting garlic in cinder-block holes? I'm thinking one or two cloves per the 4 inch holes? Had another question but my mind just burped... I'll be back when I remember what to ask!
My first use of the cedar pickets is to face the outside of all the pressure treated pine raised beds I'm building. Then, I found Anna White's DIY website where she's using the cedar pickets to, duh, make the raised beds. So, I'll go ahead and use the 2x4 pieces to build a small frame for the garlic and onion bed, and all future beds will be made from the cedar pickets and called cedar lumber.
There are many small DIY projects I can use the other pieces for in the garden. I have plans for some small benches. Once I seal them with tung and linseed oil over a period of months, those cedar cast offs will be worth their weight in gold.
Linda, as I continued to read various posts/threads (many, many, hard to keep up!) I realized ya meant to use your cedar for building --- I use cedar MULCH so when ya mentioned cedar guess what my mind was thinking...
All I did was seperate the cloves, stick 'em in the ground, cover with soil and grass clippings (loosely), let them overwinter, started watering in the Spring, and wait. They did beautifully. Huge bulbs at harvest. Didn't pre-treat or peel anything.
My neighbor grows garlic as a commercial crop, and got me started as well. We just finished planting 400 pounds in field rows that grew potatoes, cabbages, carrots, beets and other crops last year. No special preparations, just separate the cloves from the bulb shortly before planting, and put them in the ground 2-3 inches deep at 6 inch intervals with the root end down. They are almost all hardneck varieties, and will be ready to harvest in July.
I just came back from a long long time overseas.
I did plant my garlic early this year because I didn't have a choice.
I did plant cloves at the end of September. Now I am back and each clove is already sprouting with at least 2 leaves 12" tall.
(I will take some picture later ... after I unpacked my suitcases ... ah ah)
Last year I spent a fortune ordering garlic from the internet and I just had a few bulbs ...
This year I went back to my original plan.
I bought a bag of garlic at Cotsco. Maybe $4.
The garlic came from California.
So far so good : all the cloves did sprout !
By the way ... broccoli, kale, bok choi, radishes, lettuce are enough to feed 100 people ... weee
My Chinese Pink, a softneck, thinks it's spring and is up 2-3 inches. It's in for a rude surprise! I probably should have referigerated it instead of planting it when I got it (Territorial Seed). I'll know for next year that it might do this. None of the hard necks are up, and none of the elephant garlic.
I've had store-bought garlic (Whole Foods, so, I hope it's at least not sprayed with growth inhibitors) in the fridge for almost a month now. Still trying to get my raised bed built and in place. But, glad I hadn't planted out yet, since our temps are still roller-coastering in the 80s during the daytime, and around 65° at night.
My poor beet and turnip seedlings don't know what to do.
I covered them with a clear plastic tarp this morning, cause we're due for severe thunderstorms and maybe some hail by noon and later tonight. But, it's bright and sun shiny right now.
I Just hope I vented the tarp enough, so they don't fry before the rain!
Here some pictures of "garlic" I couldn't resist to take last month.
The first two are from a farmers market in Civitavecchia (Rome - Italy).
One braid of garlic sold for Euro 7.50
The third picture was taken outside a restaurant in Venice (Italy) ... huge garlic and tomatoes too.
Good buy! I've seen them for $25, as they are more of a novelty here. I'm growing some softneck garlic and hope to sell some garlic braids in a few years. I have never made one. The ones you showed have a few more bunches than what I have seen.
[quote="terri_emory"]Gymgirl, I've plant garlic as late a Christmas. It was slow taking off, but it did fine. I'm in 8a, so I bet yours will be fine too. Never know 'till you try! ☺[/quote]
The recommended planting dates for garlic here in North Central Florida (8a, but not like Western 8a) are from September through February. Longer time in the ground usually equates to larger bulbs.
Don't peel them. Speaking from personal experience; the first time I planted garlic, I peeled them and planted them. Instead of getting garlic bulbs, they broke down into mush. In fact, they disappeared altogether! The next time I planted them, I left the peels on and got a really nice crop of garlic! I always plant my garlic the week of Columbus Day. Didn't get around to it last October. I'll try a spring planting this year!
I never thought about it before reading this, I always separated the cloves and planted them, thought I missed something for a minute or two...
My red garlic looks good despite the zero weather ,, Will plant more shortly.. Grounds hard frozen