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daisy_lee
New Hyde Park, NY

October 1, 2012
8:38 PM

Post #9293109

This one just bloomed and I lost the tag and don't remember what it is. Any ideas?

Thanks!

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 2, 2012
4:23 AM

Post #9293276

No idea, sorry. It's a beauty.
psudan
Mentor, OH

October 2, 2012
5:35 AM

Post #9293317

Just a wild guess but it's similar to one I started to order last year called Nita.
Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 6, 2012
7:39 PM

Post #9297920

I think it's 'Herbert Smith'. Let me check my ID photos b/f I commit to that!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 6, 2012
7:43 PM

Post #9297927

Nita: http://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1143&bih=579&q=DAHLIA+NITA&oq=DAHLIA+NITA&gs_l=img.12...7907.11454.0.14766.11.9.0.2.1.0.250.1065.4j4j1.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.4kzHQLBmOzM

Herbert Smith: http://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1143&bih=579&q=Herbert+Smith+dahlia&oq=Herbert+Smith+dahlia&gs_l=img.12...8719.15266.0.17891.20.15.0.5.5.0.110.1377.12j3.15.0...0.0...1ac.1.I69rb1luwC0
Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 6, 2012
7:44 PM

Post #9297929

Here he is:

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Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 6, 2012
7:48 PM

Post #9297935

Oops, no; the form is like 'Herbert Smith' but the splotches are like 'Tropical'. HHHmmm...
daisy_lee
New Hyde Park, NY

October 7, 2012
6:18 AM

Post #9298266

I appreciate all of the posts! I did purchase a tuber called "Tropical" but thought this one wasn't it because it has a different shape, but the colors are the same. All of the flowers on the plant have the same shape and was wondering why mine looks different. Any ideas? Thanks!!!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 7, 2012
6:22 AM

Post #9298272

Would you consider sending your photo to the place where you bought 'Tropical' and see what they can tell you?
Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 8, 2012
9:46 AM

Post #9299587

I bought my 'Tropical' from a supermarket! I always buy a few tubers from big box & retailers, to see how they perform against the dahlia specialty growers. I've actually had better results from retailers! (The only problem is lack of variety. Plus, this year, I discovered all of the 'Firepot' tubers I bought from my local greenhouse [bagged clumps] turned into 'Nick Sr.'s !!! I made a border with what I thought was 4 2-ft 'Firepot' & would up w/ a 5' 'Nick Sr.' JUNGLE!!!) Anyway, I have a great, healthy 'Tropical' growing along side 'Herbert Smith' and yours look like the two crossed!
My 'Tropical':

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Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 8, 2012
10:11 AM

Post #9299615

I went so far as to buy myself a cheap ($20) laminator. I have so many No ID's (My Helper Kitty scratched up lots of tags to make my life more interesting) that I'm taking pictures of all the blossoms, printing them out (small) & laminating them. That way I can staple the photo to the bag I store the tubers in. I've had to accept the fact that I'll never have all the names correct, and some may be sports. If I had that dahlia (and I wish I did) I'd call it a 'Tropical sport'. I had a 'Strawberry Ice' that remained solid white; I'm labeling it a white sport. Maybe I'll make up a name for it if it doesn't revert next year- 'Helper Kitty White'.

I also wrote/printed out the names of the dahlia cultivars I'm sure of; laminated them, cut them out in 11" long strips & stapled them around the base stems. That fixes the scratched up label problem!
Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 8, 2012
2:52 PM

Post #9299840

Helper Kitty helping.

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daisy_lee
New Hyde Park, NY

October 8, 2012
8:26 PM

Post #9300200

Xaltd, I couldn't remember where I bought 'Tropical' until you mentioned that you bought yours at the supermarket! I remembered buying some too and looked in my shed and sure enough there was a box with a picture of 'Tropical' the same exact color of mine but different shape. I will call mine 'Tropical Sport' as you suggested. You have a good idea with laminating! Thanks for the ID help!

Below is 'Tiger Raugh' which bloomed today.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
6:36 AM

Post #9300413

Perfection!
daisy_lee
New Hyde Park, NY

October 9, 2012
10:37 AM

Post #9300629

Thanks Arlene! It is a new one for me this year :)

Below is another one with a lost tag. A cute kitty wasn't helping me with the tags but it might have been my puggle chasing a chipmunk! Any ideas? Thanks!

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
12:10 PM

Post #9300702

I won't ask you to go out in this weather to measure it but how big is it?
daisy_lee
New Hyde Park, NY

October 9, 2012
1:10 PM

Post #9300780

Arlene, if you mean the no id one, I don't have to go outside to measure it, since I have a bouquet of dahlias on my table :) It is small just 3."
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2012
1:56 PM

Post #9300832

How about 'Arabian Night'?

I've seen it sold at Home Depot, in a bag, along with another one that's light lavender. Just went through my dahlia photos and just can't find the lavender one.

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Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 10, 2012
11:00 AM

Post #9301593

Daisy, yes- my 'Tropical' was in a little box in the flower dept. at a local supermarket. I was charmed at their tidy display of boxes, and appalled that there was a big sign saying "PLANT NOW FOR SUMMER BLOOMS"- in February, in zone 6! It turned out to be one of my largest plants & prolific bloomers, even tho' I waited until June to plant it ;0) It isn't the imported, commercial tubers that are bad, simply the instructions. Plus the clump packages always say the height is 24" to 48"- very helpful!

Yes, in addition to a cat helping with label disappearance, I have chipmunks and squirrels, plus the cat chasing said critters, which creates a furry tornado alley that has sucked my labels to Oz.
daisy_lee
New Hyde Park, NY

October 10, 2012
6:04 PM

Post #9301887

Arlene, it looks just like Arabian Night only it is magenta. Good try, thanks!

Dan, I have a weekend house in the Berkshires (Otis, MA) where I have my large gardens. I go up every weekend to tend to the garden and because I love the outdoors. I was wondering if you also had 25" of snow late October of last year. It was so strange to see yellow maple leaves dusted in snow next to pine trees coated with snow!

I bought several boxes of dahlia tubers from the cute display in the supermarket on LI and they did very well. Which supermarket did you see them at in MA? I know the instructions were bad and I am surprised that it didn't say that removing the tubers from the ground was optional in our area!
Xaltd1
SOUTH HAMILTON, MA

October 10, 2012
6:14 PM

Post #9301895

I think I bought it in either Market basket or Shaw's. Both super local super markets.

There was snow last October! Nothing the rest of the year.

I LOVE 'Tiger Raugh'. Who's the hybridizer? I was just visiting Hollyhill's website and am drooling... they have an awesome 2013 introduction or 2... (it's a rainy day and I have too much housework- dahlia fantasizing time!)
daisy_lee
New Hyde Park, NY

October 10, 2012
7:09 PM

Post #9301948

I bought 'Tiger Raugh' on Ebay and it comes from Latvia. It is my first year with it and don't know anything else.
psudan
Mentor, OH

October 11, 2012
6:36 AM

Post #9302231

daisy lee, I don't seem to recall any October snow but we had a snow storm the second week of November. The leaves were pretty much gone but the snow was covering the tree limbs and pines. If you were under a pine tree, every time the wind blew, KA-SWOOSH, you got about a gallon of that cold, white stuff down the back of your neck. The thing I most vividly remember about last winter were many days of 50 and 60 degree temps in Jan. and Feb. and a few days in the high 80's in March. I had to shovel very little snow and my back was glad. lol
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 11, 2012
6:42 AM

Post #9302237

In NY there was the Halloween surprise snow storm but we didn't get it out here.

I worked outside every nice day during winter and felt way ahead for a long time. Now I'm eager to get working but seeing it's 49 degrees out, I guess I'll be wearing my winter jacket. No shoveling was pure pleasure.
Gypsi
Fort Worth, TX

June 1, 2013
5:20 PM

Post #9542492

popular guest's photo looks like the original poster's image. It is one of the ones I got from Lowes. may be dying on me but I kept the package.

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