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perke_patch

October 6, 2012
4:46 AM

Post #9297244

Welcome to a new thread for October. we came from here :http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1277963/#post_9296809

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perke_patch

October 6, 2012
5:01 AM

Post #9297248

Hi everyone.
Just a quick post tonight as we had a very busy day as jen said. non stop for hours at a time then a brief break to make a cuppa but rarely finish it before the next rush. I think today was the busiest ever. thank god we have jen to help. I know I've said it before but I do mean it.

gee we'll have some space again for a while. the shelves out front are now almost empty. hope we'll empty some more tables tomorrow so we don't have to put them all away at end of the day tomorrow.

Shirley I saved Jen's red dragon for you but didn't get a chance to grab any biancas for you just in case you wanted one. first customers through grabbed the vriseas first. It's lucky I was quick enough to grab the one for you. Johnny says he has some others for you when you get here. I'll have some seeds for you to try also Shirley. I hope we can all swap seedlings eventually. We certainly have plenty of them to choose from.

Must be off to bed now to prepare for a big day again tomorrow. didn't get much sleep last night with neighbours over the road fighting till almost 4am. every time I dozed off they would yell again or slam a door or sounded like throwing things at walls. anyway it was dozing them waking with a fright to doze again. so ready to fall asleep now. gee 10pm. earliest to bed for awhile.

Oh and Max is fine now. a bit sleepy at times today but then he would rush out to meet new customers and hang around begging Jen for biscuits which he can't have till his gums heal up.

night all
wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 6, 2012
6:29 AM

Post #9297314

Hi all, missed a day or two and do I have some catching up to do, so many posts.

Trish, unfortunately, I cannot show you pics of my vriesea flowers as unlike you, I cannot claim to be very patient. You see, I read somewhere a while back that if you are not planning to use the plant for seed production, cutting of the flower stalk early on allows the plant to redirect its’ energy and produce more pups, sooner, so I have been doing just that.

I am still a novice at this and certainly not to the stage where I can cross pollinate and collect seed and all that so I would like pups, the sooner the better. So, as soon as the flower stalk rises above the height of the leaves I cut it off, rather mean aren’t I and like I said, not all that patient. I do plan to buy some vriesea seed though and Nev sent me some too so I’ll see how I go with them.

Ian, love your Til Ioantha

Nev, hope your knee is not giving you too much trouble. Love those Vr Gruberi pics.

Jen, I tend to check on my seed containers and seedlings pretty regularly too … you know, just to make sure they’re doing OK!! It does sound like I missed a good sale at Wendys, just couldn’t make it over there this time but hope to catch up with Wendy and Johnny in a couple of weeks.

Wendy, thanks for the new thread. Glad to hear Max is doing well and I hope Johnny is feeling a bit better. I know how chronic pain tends to make people rather stroppy and I feel for him. So pleased to hear that your sale is going so well and thanks for holding on to Jen’s Vr Red Dragon. We’ll catch up with you in a couple of weeks.

Bye for now, Shirley



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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 6, 2012
12:41 PM

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http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1277963/#new
your link didn't work for me Wendy (the one to take you where we came from) so I thought I'd try, but not sure if it will work from the tablet? Here goes.
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 6, 2012
12:53 PM

Post #9297603


that worked.
Good on you for starting the new thread, Wendy. Especially since you have a big day and must be stuffed! I don't know why your link back didn't work, but its not the important one. The one to get us here works fine! I'm glad your sales are going well.
jen, I'm glad you had a good visit down this way, and went home with some nice babies.
Nev, I usually just water he broms from the top, with the watering can, and try to get the soil too, but I don't rinse the fertiliser out, as it is a very weak mix. I haven't noticed any discolouration in the leaves.
Shirley! I hope you are talking about the foliage Vriesea flowers! Even so, I am loathe to cut off any flower, as I am at the point where slower pup production means I don't need to find room, pots and soil!
Yesterday I whizzed up to the garden expo, to be there at 9am. I got first pick at Jan and Johns broms and bought Billbergia 'Ralph Graham French' and a Vriesea Hummel hybrid. I think it was called Sun spot? It has a forming flower spike and a pup, so I am keen to see what it turns out like. Of course I couldn't go home without an orchid either. I will take some photos later this morning.
well, computer is typing very slow, so will try again later.
Sue
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 7, 2012
12:27 AM

Post #9298166

Hi everyone – I spent quite a productive day today dividing and re-potting Nidulariums which were long over due to be done. I've also just finished planting five lots of Neoregelia seed from my own crosses which hopefully will produce something worthwhile.

Jen – It;s just as well you didn't make it down to our place this time as everything's a bit of a mess and I'd be pretty ashamed for anyone to see it in its present state, but I'm slowly making progress and eventually I'll get it sorted out, so maybe next time you're down this way it will be more presentable.

Those pic's of the Bill seedlings I've been putting up occasionally are plants that Rick Cairns did and not my work as I've only just managed to get my first lot of seed. I will be breaking a few of them up this year though so I'll let you know what's available for swapping. Your Thunderbird seedling looks very much like the mother and it also has that brilliant coloured centre with a sort of iridescence about it that can't be captured in a pic. They aren't much on shape, but there are some nice clean colours coming out of that cross. I really like that Neo 'Freddie' so can you put my name on the label for when you have a spare pup available to swap.

Keeevin0 – I think you're the first person we've had drop in to say hello from India. Do you grow bromeliads over there and what sort do you have?

Ian – We've been lucky as we had about twelve hours of light non-stop drizzling rain yesterday which turned into storms and heavier rain last night, so everything had a good watering. If you want to get good colour in your Bill's, give them as much light as they will tolerate and a fertiliser which is very low in nitrogen and very high in potash. I'll post a couple of pic's of Bill Hallelujah one with high nitrogen and low potash and the other with low nitrogen and high potash, the difference is amazing.

Wendy – Thanks for kicking off the new thread, its great to have people like you, Sue and Tash around who can do this sort of thing. Congratulations on a successful sale, you must have all been totally done in by the end of the day.

Bad luck that poor old Max has to miss out on his biscuits, but he doesn't need an infected tooth socket at this stage of the game, there'll be plenty of time for biscuits when his mouth is healed up.

Shirley – What you say about the Vriesea flower spike is pretty true, while ever it's on the mother plant it's using up valuable energy and food which can be better utilised in the production of pups. As well as that, the fact that you have removed the flowers and the plant can no longer produce any seed , the pup production often starts quicker as the plant knows that's the only way left to reproduce itself. I tried this once with Vr. Angela, I cut the spike off one plant and left it on a second plant. The plant with the spike left on didn't produce any pups until after the seed had ripened and the capsules had opened a good six months after the other plant had started pupping.

As for checking your seed containers, I don' see how it does any harm as long as they don't dry out and in that case you just give them a light misting to rectify the problem, I do it often and always have.

Sue – Thanks for the info on the method of fertilising you use. I've always done it that way as well; it's just that you hear of so many different ways people do it, it's always good to make sure you're doing it right.

Do you remember when I sent you the Ae. Weilbachii plants and I said that I'd had a Weilbachii “April Showers” with unusual leaf markings, but I couldn't find the pic to show you? Well the good news is that I've finally found it and I'll post it here for all to see.

That's about it for now and the Pic's are: 1 Billbergia Hallelujah grown with high Potash/low Nitrogen. Pic 2 is a division from the same plant grown in the same location but this time fed a high Nitrogen/low Potash diet. Pic 3 is the Ae Weilbachii “April Showers” with the unusual leaf colour I mentioned above. Pic 4 is a group of Allan Ladd's Bill. Pyramidalis hybrids from which I was fortunate enough to be able to get two. The dark underside of the leaves makes an unusual contrast with the flowers. Pic 5 is another hybrid of Allans which I was also lucky enough to obtain, its Canistropsis seidelii x Canistropsis Billbergiodes 'Plum'

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

October 7, 2012
2:00 AM

Post #9298181

Hi all. Another dry day, gotta be good for working in the garden. I am starting to break up some of my plants and try to identify some more. Yesterday I watered most of my plants and did the mowing, today was more relaxing. I had a visitor from a local member and we went for a look through my garden, she threatened to give me some more seed and some seedling pots, ah well we will find out whether she is serious or not. The pots i certainly will be able to use. We also talked about Fly spec and fertilisers. She uses Ammonia bleach and Metho to kill flyspec scale and only uses condys chrystals mixed in water as her fertiliser on all her plants. Between her and her husband they pot up daily, orchids, ferns broms caladiums and anthuriums. I will see her garden in the next few weeks. I buy off her regularly and she has been growing broms for 30 years. She could just be able to teach me a thing or 2 and if so i could pass it on/ A lot of the information she has in her head cannot be put into words.
The thumb mark on nudicaulis is 1 thing that I learned today.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Pitcairnia wendlandii
Pic 2 Pit Smithorium
Pic 3 Pit Augustifolia
Pic 4 Pit NOID
Pic 5 Pit Spicata

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perke_patch

October 7, 2012
3:50 AM

Post #9298211

Hi everyone.
Welcme Kev another new member. lovely to hear from new people.
Nev I love those Alan Ladd hybrids you were lucky enough to get hold of. I really love the pyramidalis hybrid. that is very different to the usual one isn't it? I also love the different colours in your 2 different hallelujahs. I did have a couple of extra pots of hallelujahs this week but after the weekend we are now down to 3 pots of parent plants again. can't pot them up quick enough to sell so hopefully my seedlings (all 8 hahaha) will produce something nice that will be as popular.

Sue thanks for the fxed link. I think I forgot to hit enter after pasting the http address.that's why it wouldn't work.

Shirley I look forward to seeing you again. if you come on a day when we are closed we can sit and have a cuppa and a good chat. better than when you came last time. just as well you didn't come this weekend. OMG we've never worked so hard. Today I didn't even get a sip of a cuppa from first thing this morning till we had closed and come upstairs. I did have a brief sit down with a can of coke this afternoon but it was very brief. we are completely out of alcantareas even our own pups grown from grass pups collected.

I'm so tired I think I'm off t bed right now. can't stay awake any longer.

Night all.
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 7, 2012
1:04 PM

Post #9298705

Hi everyone – When I was sorting out the Nidulariums for re-potting yesterday I found a very large plant which was a NOID. I divided it into five plants and I noticed on the largest one of the five that it has a flower just starting down in the centre, so who knows, I may just be able to get it identified either on this forum or the other two I visit daily.

Ian – Sounds like your visitor could be a very knowledgeable lady and one from whom you can pick up a lot of good tips. Why don't you try and get her interested in our little forum here as I'm sure she'd be well appreciated and we could all share our knowledge and pic's and learn from each other.

It's interesting what she told you about using metho and ammonia to kill scale. Did she by any chance give you the recipe for the mixture. I know that if you get straight metho on a cotton bud and wipe it over scale or mealy bug, it will (in most instances) kill them; but it is an impossible job if you have a large infestation. I also know that ammonia can be used instead of vinegar in the recipe for Rob Smythe's “Canola White Oil Spray”, but this is the first time I've heard of them being used together and like the rest of us, I'd be very interested to learn more about the quantities as any remedy with a low toxicity is good to know about.

Once again we have another Condy's Crystal user. It's strange, but until Mike first mentioned it on this forum, I had never heard of it being used as a fertiliser and this surprises me a bit as I visit various bromeliad forums daily and read a fair bit about bromeliad culture and never before have I read of it being used as a fertiliser and then within about six months we have three people mentioned on this forum alone who are regular users; Mike, yourself and the lady who has just visited you.

You mentioned the “The thumb mark on Ae. Nudicaulis”. This is one of the the main identifying features of this plant, but it also appears on some (not all) Ae. Recurvatas as well. A while back I grew what I believed to be some Ae Nudicaulis seed. I was told (by the “experts”) that Ae. Naudicaulis Aequalis was an habitual “selfer”(When a flower is pollinated by its own pollen or by pollen from another flower of the same plant) and only ever produced seed from it's own self pollination. As I hadn't pollinated it, I believed this to be the case as every flower developed into a seed capsule and so I harvested some of the seed. Because I like this particular plant, the idea of being able to easily multiply my stock was appealing so I went ahead and sowed the seed which grew at a rapid rate. I noticed as the seedlings grew, that the “thumb print” was missing which then started me thinking that it may not have been a “selfing” after all. It wasn't until the first of the plants finally flowered that they were obviously not Ae. Nudicaulis as the upright inflorescence had the bracts of the Nudicaulis but the flowers of an Ae. Gamosepala albeit in different colours. I was quite disappointed in the outcome, but because the flower colour varied, these plants proved to be popular and sold readily on the sales table at our meetings so my seed raising wasn't a complete failure. I ended up keeping just the one as a future conversation piece and because I liked the particular colour, but it just goes to show; you can't always believe “the experts”.

Wendy – I have to agree with you about the Bill. Pyramidalis hybrids, they are quite spectacular, however as with most nice things there is a problem (for me anyway) as these plants are pretty cold sensitive and don't tolerate our winters very well at all and unfortunately the leaves mark very easily.

It's interesting when you say you like the different colours of the Hallelujah. The plant which had been heavily fed was put in the show mainly out of my own curiosity as I liked the different colours as well; however it only got a second place as the judges decided it wasn't a true example (colour wise) of that particular hybrid. It was very surprising though, the amount of questions I was asked about it and most who saw it liked it just as much as the usual coloured plants. I think that Hallelujah is one of the all time great Bill's, and it will be a while yet before it's knocked off is perch.

That's it for today and now a few pic's to finish with, Pic 1 is a mixed group of Bill's, Pic 2 is Bill. 'Medowie Gift', Pic 3 is Bill. 'Pink Champagne', Pic 4 is Guz. 'Hilda' and Pic 5 is Guz 'Sunny Time'.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 7, 2012
2:31 PM

Post #9298796

Good morning you lot.
I've got a problem with my camera, and the cord doesn't seem to fit properly anymore, so I cant transfer the photos I took yesterday. There will be a way around it, I'll just have to figure it out.
I don't think Kev, from India was a serious addition to our thread. I'm pretty sure it was a scam of some sort. just don't go clicking on the link he posted. You never know what you'll get yourself into.
Nev, that A. 'April SHowers' is unsual eh? Did it keep that colour/marking? I like your Alan Ladd hybrids, and one of the pics i was going to post was Billbergia 'Dark Ladd'. I will find a way! The B. pyramidalis hybrid looks to be the same as one Ross has at Pinegrovem which had thrown a vaiegated sport, very stable, and was in flower while we were there. I've attached the pic as photo one.
Wow, I just put my SD card in the tablet, and all the pics are there, so I can show you B. 'Dark Ladd' too!
Ian, I am interested in any recipes for pest management also. I found Rob Smythes oil recipe has worked treat, and haven't found anything much in the way of fly speck scale recently, But I am finding soft brown scale on old mums, and figure it could be caused by their lack of energy and vigour, after producing pups, and maybe its time to bury them? Has anyone else had this problem? I have given them a spray with some nasty stuff, and then given them a light feed, but just wonder, is it worth it?
Wendy, how wonderful that your sales went so well. You will need a holiday after all that! Did having the sale create much room, or is it still hard to see whats gone?
Anyway, I better get myself up and adam, but first, the photos (I have already walked the dogs,but am lazing on the bed)
photo one is Billbergia 'Alan Ladd'
Photo two is B. 'Dark Ladd' a B. 'Domingos Martinez' hybrid
Photo three is Vriesea 'Hummels Sun Spot'
Photo four is the new Orchid, Dendrobium aphyllum
Photo five are Tillandsia leiboldiana seedlings, self sown on a log in the brom house.
Sue


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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 7, 2012
2:32 PM

Post #9298797

on further inspection Nev, I think the flower colour is different on the Alan Ladd billbergia, so probably not the same cross.
I'll add another pic...cause i can.
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 7, 2012
2:35 PM

Post #9298799

doh, fingers too fast!
photo one is Billbergia 'Alan Ladd' without flash
photo two is with flash
photo three is a close up of the flower. (lots of pollen)
sue

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springer99
Queensland
Australia

October 7, 2012
10:06 PM

Post #9299167

Hi Everyone, hope you are all well, just writing to say I'm still here and still read most posts, I must confess I do miss a few when I get behind (blush). But generally I still read along, just don't get a chance to reply.
Great work Wendy on the new thread, yaaaaaaaa :)
Pic 1 is our Aech zebrina flower
Pic 2 is our Hippy flowers (can't remember how to spell the whole word, lol, I just call them hippy's)
Pic 3 is our little pup/seedling brom house (new addition we whipped out the other weekend for extra space)
Pic 4 is our brom house with a veranda of shadecloth you might say. Decided to cover those broms with cloth for this summer as some of them are new additions, either from shady locations or down south. Maybe won't need the protection next summer.
Love all the photos as usual, I will try to do a proper post soon,
Cheers Tash

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 8, 2012
2:54 AM

Post #9299208

Hi Everyone!

Quick thread tonight given it’s the start of a busy week for me. Just finished typing and realised my thread not so quick after all, too many things to chat about and I luv a good chat lol.

Hi Shirley, I have not thought about cutting off my vriesea flowers when they first come up, I suppose it is because of my interest in seeing what the flower spike would turn out like. At the moment I am only getting 1 x pup off the one’s flowering, but cutting the flower spike off early next time would this increase my chances of getting possibly more pups off the one plant? I suppose it depends how quickly I want the pups to come. I would hate to just get one pup off a plant and then the mother plant dies, but I have heard this is not always the case depending on how well you look after the plant. So far I have only discovered to vriesea plants with one pup on each whilst the mother plant is in flower, I am pretty pleased that I got to see them both (flower & pup).

Hi Wendy, so pleased to hear how successful the plant sale went, hopefully this has freed up a bit of room for you. It is amazing how many people come out of the woodwork looking for good quality bromeliads, I know when I go to brom sales I get in early because people landscaping usually come in and buy the lot, I have had a few race in after me disappointed they have missed out on buying the lot, or the best of what’s to pick from.

Hi Ian, thanks’ for the great tip with Condy’s Crystals, am will go and get some from the chemist on the weekend and give it a go.

With our Orchids, whether pests are present or not (such as mealy bugs, aphids and scale), one important point is to follow up the first application with another about a fortnight later. A solution of 50/50 methylated spirit and water should be used as a fine spray with a hand sprayer, or it may be painted on with a small brush. I use this also for my bromeliads (when I feel necessary) to target mealy bug’s and scale.

Hi Nev, luved all you pics, that’s a beautiful mixed group of Bills, such healthy plants and great colors as always.

Hi Sue, luved all your brom pic’s and the one of your new Den. Orchid is beautiful. I showed it to hubby as these are his passion.

Hi Tash, great shade houses and shade house with verandah, how great does it feel knowing your babies are going to be safe and happy over summer. I have one other area I want to shade in our back yard but this possibly will not happen until next year as I am yet to start landscaping the area so until then are moving my precious bom’s out the way as I need to, the suns not too bad there yet but the hotter it gets the more I will have to move out of harm’s way.
I have finally attached a pic of my vriesea seedling trays yet to germinate; nothing exciting happing yet, my fingers and toes are still crossed.

Hope everyone else is well that may be looking in.

I have to remember to check my D-Mail every once in awhile, I am terrible like that with my own personal emails always forget to check if I have mail.

Speak soon everyone and happy gardening!

Trish :-)

Pic 1 – Vriesea seedling trays x 2 yet to germinate
Pic 2 – Vr. Fosteriana x Angela – Jacks Angel Grex
Pic 3 – Vr. Lucky Len
Pic 4 – Neo’ Grace Good Girl
Pic 5 – Neo’ Takamura Concentrica Silverdust

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ianperry

October 8, 2012
3:32 AM

Post #9299217

Hi all, another dry and windy day. It is surprising just how much the wind dries out the plants
Nev my visitor will be selling plants on Sunday at our local markets and I will see her then. She probibly will be at our monthly meeting in the afternoon. If I remember correctly she mixes metho and ammonia 50/50 and either sprays or uses a paint brush. I will check this out also.
I did a short course at an Ag Colledge in 81 and was taught that Nitrogen feeds leaves that suck the other nutrients out of the soil, Phosphorus feeds the roots to give stability of the plant and also help with feeding and Potassium feeds the fruits, nuts and seeds.. I have always leaned heavily on the fruits and seeds as a food source and have fertilised accordingly. I have also used Epsom salts especially around citrus trees. Being a magnesium fertiliser and only required in minor doses it would probibly not do much good with Broms, I used it about a year ago mixed with potassium and it didn't seem to hurt anything. I don't know if it helped because I did not have the correct light levels. It seems that there needs to be a balance between light and fertiliser and moisture.
I will have to have another look at my Nudicaulis as I seem to have several different ones, at least 4 varigated, some with stripes and 1 or 2 with spots and dots.

Sue, I can relate to scale on old plants, maybe sick plants also. I have been finding mushroom scale on some of my broms, all have flowered and seem to be giving up living, yet most are producing at least 1 pup. I have tried successfully painting the scale with an artists paint brush. Vinegar will also remove the white gunk from between the leaves. Not really between but where leaves touch and moisture runs down. Brown vinegar and salt will kill sensitive weed, a pest around here. I think that plants are a bit like people, when they are healthy they can fight off bugs more easily. In agriculture it is the sicker plant that starts of catching and then spreading disease.

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ianperry

October 8, 2012
3:39 AM

Post #9299221

Sorry folks Pic 1 N Macho
Ian

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 8, 2012
4:06 AM

Post #9299234

Hi all, how hot was it in Brissie yesterday and it’s only early October. The hot westerly wind made it very dusty and unpleasant. Today was much better, it even looked like rain but that didn’t happen, everything is so dry.

Sue, yes I was talking about cutting the flower spike off my foliage vrieseas. I can’t wait to remove my first vriesea pups and hopefully there will be lots of them. Not sure where I’ll put them as the shadehouse is quite squeezy now and I think the extension might be a way off yet. I love your bill Alan Ladd, it’s really spectacular, one more for the wish list.

Trish, love the vrieseas in your pics and your neo Grace Good Girl, it looks very similar to one I got recently named neo Red River ...very nice. As for the vrieseas, I have only one with pups at present, vr Erotica and it has two so far. I only cut the flower spike off maybe 3 weeks ago so time will tell.

How often would you spray with the 50/50 metho and water solution, Trish. I guess it doesn’t harm the broms or you wouldn’t be using it but I am always a bit wary of damaging the foliage with sprays. Do you rinse out the cups afterwards.

I read somewhere of something that kills mozzie larvae in brom cups but I can’t remember what it was. I usually give the cups a good flush out about once a week during summer, not sure how effective it is. Does anyone know of a more effective mozzie treatment.

Nev, lucky you to get good rain. Those are very nice Bills in your pics, so much colour. How is your knee, I hope it is not restricting your bromming too much.

Tash, good to hear from you. Hope all is going well in your neck of the woods. Do you have a problem with mosquitos, I hear there are some pretty mean ones that far north.

Wendy, glad your sale went so well, wish we could have made it over there. Anyway, we’ll see you soon.

Ian, neo Macho is one of my favourites. I love the teeth and the colour.

Hi to everyone else.

Pic is neo Red River pup, bye for now.

Shirley


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perke_patch

October 8, 2012
5:16 AM

Post #9299257

hi again to everyone.

Trish when we started out growing we were told that the flower takes a lot of the energy from the plant so if we had no intention of harvesting the seed we would be much better off to cut the flower off and let the plant have the energy to stay looking good and produce pups. At first we did this religiously and the plants certainly remain looking good so much longer without the flower spike. However once we got hooked on crossing pollen and collecting seed we now leave the spike on unless there are several of the same plant all coming into flower at same time. Then we pick the best of them and leave the flower on and take the others off.

Nev I love you collection of billbergias. lots of colour there. I snipped a few more of my clumping billbergias today. When I get multiple tubes I snip between them so they all throw pups. I'm greedy and need big clumps before I'm happy. it helps also when someone wants a pup and I can just scoop out a tube with its own root ball. I wish I knew how to make the hallelujas multiply quickly cause I never seem to have any spares potted up. they go as fast as I get them growing. Collected some more seed today off my sanderiana. another 2 pods. that will make 5 trays of seed but I crossed so many pods and because my toothpicks fell out I have to treat each pod as a different cross just in case it was a crossed one. hopefully when they grow it will be obvious which pods was which cross and which ones are F2. otherwise there will be a lot of sanderiana hybrids hahaha.

Sue thanks for the tip about those little bugs in he seedling trays eating the roots. I checked today when watering and a few trays do have the little bugs in them. I always wondered why some seedlings were tightly holding on in the mix and standing upright while others just lay on top with no roots. now I know why. I discovered one tray today of guz lingulatas. I had potted up quite a few larger ones and they are growing nicely but what was left in the tray with little bugs have now been chewed off and we have bladey grass lying on top of the ground. I'm going to pot up any others infested to get them away from the little bug..gers

Well I tried the condys crystals today. I had previously bought a good sized container of condys crystals from the produce and shared pill bottles of it with friends including Jen but I hadn't tried it. Today I took a tiny little pinch and put it into my coke bottle thinking I could add a tiny bit more if I needed to. BUT it went dark purple. It was such a tiny little bit of powder too. So there I was diving in the bin before the garbo truck came so I could rescue another coke bottle. I then poured about half inch of purple liquid in and topped up with water to make a lightly pink tinted mix. I then sprayed all the seedlings and billbergias. I didn't even use up all the bottle of purple mix so my container is going to last me forever. Now I'll sit back and watch them all grow.

we did nothing today after we put away all the unsold broms. late yesterday after the incredible wind came up we just carried the full tables back into the garage area under the house and folded up the empty tables to free up the carport for the cars before a big branch fell on them. we met Johnny's sisters at the shopping centre for lunch then and when we got home we just spent an hour or so watering all the broms. that was the extent of our energy.

Tash we have the same hippy flowering down the back. lovely splash of colour aren't they????

Oh just found out that our first practice grandson is going to be a daddy. If his mum had stayed with our Darren we'd be looking forward to being GREAT GRANDPARENTS. omg I'm not old enough for that surely. Anyway we were so glad that Tyson still feels like we are important enough to hear the news from him. He is going to have a little girl and he is so thrilled. We are still very good friend with his grandparents so we have kept in touch with him over the years. Now this old girl will have to go to bed early again after that shocking bit of news.

Hi to anyone I didn't mention. lovely to read all the posts again instead of checking just one or two.

Pic 1 & 2 is an ae NOID. it has been suggested its disticantha???? will have to look that one up but if someone can confrm it will save me looking.
3. is a lovely ae called electra or rajah. we have both but they look identical. we have quite a few lovely big plants but so far this year no sign of the gorgeous infloresence. soon maybe?
4. is our ae freckles just starting to flower in time for our sale. unfortunately it didn't help us get rid of any pups. maybe it needed to be a bit more advanced.
5. is ae nigre which was popular on the weekend. could have sold more if I had them but they are all pupping so soon I will have a lot more. Think I still have 3 or 4 left.

Anyway. time for bed now.
Night all.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 8, 2012
1:56 PM

Post #9299809

good morning all, so much is going on!
Tash, the seedling house looks great. Although i see quite a few broms in there already! I hope it does the trick and makes it easier for you to get the little babies through summer. The veranda idea looks great too. Does the Adenium need shade up there? It looks a mass of flowers. Your hippy looks great. i have about three varieties, and I'm sure one is the same. I hve a mass of the blood red ones in front of the laundry tub now, so I can't even see the dishes!
The Chantinii flower is awesome, one of my favourites. speaking of Chantiniii, i just tied one in the tree yesterday, as it has two budding pups coming, and the old mum was looking tatty fter winter, so I put it where my other, dark chantinii is, and went well over winter, so they can keep each other company.
Trish, you have some lovely collectable vrieseas there! very nice. thanks for the tips on the metho spray. I might give it a go on the old Mums in a couple of weeks, as it would have to be kinder to the environment than the spray i have been using.
ian, I am not familiar with mushroom scale or sensitive weed. Any chance of a photo? Different pests for different climates eh? I like your Neo. 'Macho'
Shirley, I find that removing the first pup off a Vriesea can induce the plant to produce more. I originally had one pup on V. heiroglyphica, and after removal, it produced two more. I guess its a case of what do you want? In my case, more pups means more pots, needing more space e.t.c. All good if I can sell them, but starting to plant them out now, to form clumps. then i can cut off a pup if required.
Red River. I bought one called Neo. 'Running Red River' and it seems to be the same as 'Red River'. I notice only 'Red River' is in the BSI photo index, so maybe the name was shortened for registration. Anyway, its a lovely plant.
Wendy, GGM! congratulations! Sorry to hear you have those fungus gnats too. They are a pain. I have got so many that I have to pot up. i suppose I should be doing that instead of this! I am interested to see the flower on your A. 'Freckles' as mine has never flowered. Also, Is A. 'Nigre' a nudicaulis type?
Anyway, better go have breaky and get my day in order. I've started washing the windows, which is a thankless task, but I do like to see out! Sorry to hear you Qlders had those gusty winds yesterday. We had a drop of rain overnight, but just one! At least it freshens the morning up.
Everyone cross your fingers and plead with mother nature for some nice warm, calm weather and some light, overnight showers. maybe she'll listen to us? We could trade her some bromeliads?
Sue
Neo. 'Chirippo' (one of jans)

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 8, 2012
7:42 PM

Post #9300141

Good morning everyone – It's been raining here all night, not heavy but good continuous drizzle just what we want; rain that will soak in and not run off and be lost down the drains to the ocean.

Sue – I also had my suspicions about Kev from India that's why I only asked him/her to tell us what sort of brom's they grew in India. I see the post has been removed so you're probably right about it being a scam of some sort. Speaking of Indians, I had a call the other night which showed up on the LCD as “overseas”, I had to answer it as our son is overseas and when they answered it was obviously a woman who said in a very strong female Indian accent that her name was Kevin and she was calling from Melbourne! Will these people stop at nothing as they try interrupt our dinner each night?.

About the Ae. April Showers, yes it did keep that colouring however it did what every Aechmea Weilbachii I've ever grown did, and suffered badly from leaf tip die back. I've tried growing these plants in every conceivable situation and still I have this problem, so I divided that particular plant and gave half each to two brom growing friends of mine so that at least it would have better chance of being grown on properly and established and perhaps down the track even being registered as a separate cultivar.

I also have Bill Dark Ladd which I got from Ross when I first got the Pyramidalis crosses, and I eagerly await the day when mine will put up a sport like the one you were fortunate to get (I wish!). When I first saw it before it was registered it was obviously going to be way way out of my budget so I just forgot all about it. When it was registered, I did post a couple of pic's here just to show everyone what it was like however it was just a “pipe dream” that I would ever own one. If you ever get a pup that I can afford please don't forget where I live (if I'm still alive by then). The story all about it plus a few pictures can be found here: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=BILLBERGIA&id=10528#10528

I love your pic today of Neo. 'Chirippo'. it's magnificent!

I too get a type of light brown/white soft scale around the base of old “mums” especially ones that have been growing overcrowded in the garden and haven't been “dead leafed” for some time. I just hit them with a mix of 5ml of washing up detergent mixed with 10L of water and that seems to kill them, I give the whole plant a good hosing the following day and they all seem to just drop of.

I like your little orchid, it's very similar to one I used to grow which was an Indian species called Dendrobium periardii which has since been changed to Dendrobium aphyllum (see pic). Unfortunately like all Indian Dendrobiums, although the flowers are beautiful, they were also very short lived compared to other orchids.

Tash – Nice to hear from you again and to see you are still keeping busy extending your bromeliad collection into “town houses”. It's probably an “all time first” having a brom house with a verandah, but then necessity is the mother of invention. Brom growing just seems to be an ever increasing hobby where we get rid of plants of “lesser quality” to make more space, only to have it filled with higher quality plants shortly after, and so the search for more space goes on.

Are they the same Hippeastrums that you bought for your daughter and showed us a couple of years back? They certainly make quite a statement don't they?

Trish – It's you this time who have given us yet another “safe” treatment for scale and mealy bug. This is one I've never tried although when I grew orchids we would use a cotton bud dipped in straight metholated spirits the kill the occasional Mealy Bug and that seemed to work OK but I've never tried it on scale. It's amazing how in the course of conversation on these forums, little tips on various treatments are learned.

Re. the pups on Vrieseas, I have found that vrieseas with patterned foliage usually don't pup until after they flower, but like everything, there are exceptions to all rules and I have one Red Chestnut in particular that produces its majority of pups before it flowers. Generally speaking with good quality plants that I want to produce more of, I always treat my old mother plants very well and give them a double dose of fertiliser as well as a single “prill” in each of the lower leaf axils. I have found this definitely increases pup production; and remember when you have a mother plant with about four or more pups, they are a drain on the mother so a bit of foliar fertiliser as well helps balance things out and keeps mum healthy as well as the pups.

Trish, your seedling trays look very organised and it looks like you're on the right track. There's just one question I would ask; is that a marble or Terrazzo surface they are sitting on, if so this could slow down germination as it may be a bit cool. If this is the case I would put a layer of polystyrene (you only need about 1/2” or thicker) under the containers to insulate.

Ian – Thanks for the offer of following up the recipe for the metho and ammonia mix, it's all extra knowledge we can share. While you're talking to that lady, see if she would like to join our little forum. Re the N.P.K., an old nurseryman explained it to me years ago as “Up down and all around” (N) Nitrogen is UP i.e is for the leaf growth, (P) Phosphorous is DOWN i.e. for the root growth and (K) is for everything else such as flowers and fruit; very easy to remember. Or, Shoots, Roots and Fruits. N=Shoots, P=Roots, K=Fruits.

Ian, what do you call Mushroom Scale, do you have a pic? Also is that what you call sensitive weed growing in the pot in your Macho in the pic? How much salt to how much vinegar do you mix and is it also harmful to brom's if you get it on them?

Shirley – You say you are always worried about damaging the foliage with sprays. I think it can safely be said that damage to plants from spray occur in two main ways:

Firstly, the spray is not mixed in the correct proportions and is often applied too strong, so always read and follow the instructions, especially the SAFETY INSTRUCTIONS.

Secondly, the plant is sprayed either in the sun or is then put out in the sun to dry. The combination of the chemical in the water, the wet leaves and the hot sun scalds the leaves. So only ever spray plants in the shade or if they are in the garden, do them late in the afternoon when the sun is off them.

As for your question about mosquitoes, I think the article on the following site should answer all of your questions: http://fcbs.org/articles/mosquito.htm

Wendy – Or should I say “great grandma”, the plant in your first pic is Ae. Distichantha but which one as there are four listed? Actually when I turn my head on the side “ouch” and look more carefully at the second pic it is the large form Ae. Distichantha.

The two most common ones grown down here are a large form and a small form. The large form is Ae. Distichantha which grows to a height of about 36”- 40” down here and has an extremely vicious spike on the leaf tips. The other one is Ae. Distichantha var. Galziovii which looks just like a miniature of the first one being only about 10” high. The flowers of both look identical except for the size. There is also a beautiful white flowered form called Ae. Distichantha albiflora and the fourth one is called Ae. Distichantha Schlumbergeri which has a more red inflorescence with mauve flowers. (See pic's and article in the FCBS Photo Index)

Well that's about it from me today and now for a few pic's to finish with. Pic 1 is Dendrobium periardii for Sue to compare with her new Dendrobium. (It isn't my plant, just one I found on the internet) Pic 2,3 and 4 are for Trish and show firstly one of my Vr. Red Chestnuts coming into flower which will soon be cut off. The next two pic's show what's left of an old mother which produced five pups in ones and twos before she flowered (That's one of them in pic 2) and following flowering and the treatment I outlined above, went on to produce first five pups (all at once) and finally as she is now starting to die she has another thee pups (at the same time).That's a total of thirteen in all, by no means a record but not too bad either. Pic.5 just has Vr Fosteriana (white clone) on the name tag.

All the best, Nev.

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perke_patch

October 9, 2012
3:31 AM

Post #9300312

Hi everyone. thought I'd pop in early tonight instead of waiting till I'm ready for bed.

I think you'll all find that the pic posted of billbergia ALAN LADD is the one owned by Ross Little and not purchased by anyone on this forum. I doubt if any of us could afford the price Ross wants for a pup of this plant. Nev, I too was lucky enought to get a DARK LADD (pic 1) out of Ross. But one I really wanted besides b. ALAN LADD was one called b.MAURIE'S LADD. (see pic 2).

Nev thanks for the tip on shoots, roots, & fruits. I think I'll remember that now when looking at the NPK ratio on fertilisers. although I just rechecked and i had roots & shoots round the wrong way so 'up down and around' might be a better reminder. I'll also file away the metho & ammonia hint for future. at the moment the big pest we have here is the caterpillas hatching which will be butterflies one day if they stay off our broms. the flowering vriseas and guzmanias seem to be their main target and they can make a mess of a nice plant. I hate having to squish them or feed them to the nepenthes but we can't have them destroying our plants.

Pic 3 & 4 I just had to share with you. I usually grow neo golden chalice in a full sun and get very deep yellow plants with a lot of red patches ont very tall thin tubes. Last week I discovered this pot of it growing out th front under the shadecloth and was amazed to see it was golden chalice. this shows a much shorter fatter nicer shape but not nearly as much yellow colour and hardly any red patches. pity we can't get the shape like this with the colour of the sun grown one. but if I had to choose which one I prefer I think it would have to be the shade grown one. I tried to get rid of 2 pots of the sun grown one on the weekend but couldn't get anyone interested. I think this one would have been easier to sell.

Wendy

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perke_patch

October 9, 2012
3:38 AM

Post #9300315

we had previously put a batch of our painted delight F2 seedlings out on the top shelf of the sales area just to get them to colour up to see what they would do. when searching for plants to put out for sale last week we stumbled onto them. some of them we let stay out for sale but a few I just had to put away to keep. I've attached pd27 and pd47 for you to see. there was another one that looked a bit like painted delight with the patches of dark colour but looked to be getting a pink or purple flush in the centre. We left it out for sale but it didn't go. I think with bit more colour it would have been snatched up. I have to say that the pic of pd 27 doesn't really show the true look of the plant. it is certainly looking like a keeper wort registering. pd 47 is a nice deep colour but the shape is a bit long and thin leaves. I'd be interested in any feedback.

Night all
Wendy

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ianperry

October 9, 2012
4:03 AM

Post #9300324

Hi all, What a collection of good piccies shown by all, some more appealing than others but each to their own. Just to follow up on Nudicaulis types. i found that I have 7 different ones, obviously they cannot all be correctly named. I am wondering what other quick ID marks there are for me to learn about. I am aware of the indented colours of concentricas and now the thumb prints and I bet there are a lot more.
Mushroon scale is a soft bodied scale similar to what Nev andsomeone else described. It could be just a local name, I will have to search for it at the moment because I clean it up as soon as I find it. I have been told it is not really harmful but it doesn't look nice. Sensitive weed is one of the prayer plants and it is so dry up here at the moment I will have to really search for some to photograph.With luck someone close by is watering their lawn.
Vinegar and salt will kill any plant it is put on. When I mix it I dissolve as much salt as the vinegar will absorb and then paint it on.
The weed in with N Macho is an Oxali with pink flowers, i like the flowers.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Nudicaulis vae 4 varieties
Pic 2 nudicaulis Zebrina
Pic 3 Nudicaulis red form

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 9, 2012
6:31 AM

Post #9300406

Hi everyone, just a quick post tonight as it’s getting late.

Nothing exciting happening here … still no rain and lots of sticks and leaves making a real mess.

Lots of lovely pics from everyone as always.

My pics tonight are two neo NOIDs. If anyone can identify them, that would be great.

That’s it for me tonight, catch up tomorrow.

Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 9, 2012
2:05 PM

Post #9300838

Hi everyone – Looks like another nice day today with everything nice and fresh after the overnight rain again. I don't know what's in the rain that “peps” everything up, but I wish I could capture it along with the water and store it for future garden use.

Wendy – It looks like I misunderstood Sue when I thought she had scored a plant of Bill. 'Alan Ladd'. I must admit I had wondered why she hadn't told us she had a big win on the Lotto which allowed her to pay for it, but there I go assuming once again, and we all know what happens when you assume!

Wendy what do you do to get the pictures to come up sideways and why do you do it? It's a bit hard on us “oldies” with arthritic necks to try and view them.

As for caterpillars, I've never had a problem with them since I occasionally started using “Clensel” as an insecticide and I think the smell of the citronella in it must act as a deterrent.

Do you have a picture (an upright one) of 'Golden Chalice' when grown in the sun? I have a smallish plant called Neo. 'Candelabra' which is a good basket specimen and is usually a pale lime colour but colours more yellow when given very good light.

You asked for feedback about the Neo.'Painted Delight' seedlings and like you say, PD27 could be a “keeper” (if it gets a bit more colour) but I think PD 47 has missed the boat as now that it's flowering, it's as good as it's going to get and doesn't have the shape to make it something special; although if you grow it on, who knows what the next generation of pups could produce..

Ian – In your quest for identifying features of various plants, you may also add those of Ae 'Mirlo' which as well as having a natural shine to the leaves also has small random raised areas of the leaf tissue as well.

Thanks for the info on the vinegar and salt mixture it seems to work on the same principle as a weedicide that's marketed by “Richgrow” and is basically a mixture of salt and phosphoric acid and in your mix the vinegar has been substituted for the phosphoric acid.

As for the Ae Nudicaulis, I have quite a few (I've never counted how many) different ones also. There is one in particular which I'm eagerly waiting to see flower and that's Ae. Nudicaulis 'Giant' which is a plant which can grow to three feet tall. Unfortunately this makes it top heavy and steps must be taken to prevent it from continually falling over..

Shirley - I don't know what it is with you, but you seem to have the "happy knack" of picking up the best looking NOIDS I have ever seen. I'm sorry, but I can't help you with the names but I would definitely say that plant 2 has one of the marbled varieties in it's heritage, perhaps Marble Snow, Marble Pink or Marble Throat and if you do a search of the hybrids from these as parents using the BCR you may find a name. Those two Neo's in your pic's are beautiful, keep up the good work.

Time to finish with a few more pic's, firstly Ae Mirlo showing the high shine on the leaf in Pic 1 and Pic 2 (which should have had the dust washed off before I took the pic but didn't) but shows the random raised areas on the leaves. Pic.3 One of my Ae Recurvata hybrids, Pic. 4 Ae. Nudicaulis Aequalis and Pic 5 another of the Bill 'Hallelujah' seedlings.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 9, 2012
2:28 PM

Post #9300858

1st one looks like Lila.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 10, 2012
3:23 AM

Post #9301263

Hi Everyone

Quick thread tonight, a quicker one than the other night.

Hi Shirley, great NOIDS, they are beautiful. I agree with Bree your first pic looks like Lila, I will have to check the pup I purchased which I thought was Lila and get back to you?

Shirley, in answer to your question regarding flushing brom centres out with fresh water once I have sprayed 50/50 metho' and water solution on my broms, yes I do normally flush the centres out but not the leaves, but at times I forget and this has had no ill effect on any of my broms, just ensure the brom get's to dry somewhere very shady and at all costs avoid any sun getting the the brom until its leaves have had a chance to dry off properly. I think the solution also repels the mozzies, but I also heard flushing brom centres out too often takes away the natural secretion that the brom makes that helps repel the mozzies anyway, I tend to only flush my brom centres out fortnightly for this reason and when I spray the brom's with the solution mentioned about I try to avoid getting too much in the centre as it is not necessary. The other option I take most of the time is to only spray when I need, like instances when I see a pest on a brom or in an overhanging tree I treat the tree with this solution as they shade my broms.

Hi Nev, thanks for the tip with my vriesea seedling trays, yes you are correct some of them are sitting on tiles (about half of them) and the other half on concrete slabs either side of an old bbq that we do not use, the old bbq plate I have covered with tiles to give myself a bit of a work bench in our entertainment area. I have covered the tiles with a layer of polysyrene.

Everyone, thanks for your wonderful advice about vriesea flower spikes, I decided to cut a couple off some of the ones in the entertainment area that had been there for a while, now mum can get busy and hopefully pup some :-)

I went out and brought Condy Crystals today to give this a go - yeah, can't wait to try on weekend.

Anyway better get going, catch up with you all next time, luved everyones pics - awesome as usual.

Happy Gardening!

Hope you don't mind a couple of orchid pics thrown in lol and of course broms to keep us bromaholics happy lol.

Pic 1: Phrap. Perseus Highclare
Pic 2: Paph. Rothschildianum x St Swithin
Pic 3: Vr. Angela
Pic 4: Neo. Lorena
Pic 5: Mixed Vrieseas and some very small pups purchased a couple of months ago

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 10, 2012
7:10 AM

Post #9301391

Hi everyone, thanks Bree and Trish for the suggestions on what the NOID in my first pic might be. Nev, thanks for the compliments on the two neos.

It’s getting late, even later further south … I wish we had daylight saving here in Brissie.

Anyway, I’ll post a couple of pics and head off to bed.

Pic 1 is neo Chlorostricta f2 x pic 2 is neo Hot Blooded ? pic 3 is neo Chubby

Bye for now, Shirley

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 10, 2012
9:31 PM

Post #9302077

Awsome Paph. Rothschildianum x St Swithin. Heres my Lila... looking a bit chatty though. hehe!

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 10, 2012
9:32 PM

Post #9302078

this is the picture the seller had when i bought it.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 10, 2012
11:51 PM

Post #9302113

Hi everyone,

Well another nice day here today following more light showers last night. Although we haven't had rain for a while until these last few days of light drizzle and still there are people "whinging". What does it take to satisfy some people? Maybe we should arrange for it to just rain of a night and be fine the following day, but I'll bet it still wouldn't suit some.

Trish – Regarding the topic of whether we should flush out the vases in brom's or not, I've heard numerous arguments both for and against this practice; but when we look at what Mother Nature does, it's all for a purpose. When the dew, mists or rain fall on the brom's in their natural habitat in trees or rock faces (and most of them do grow in these locations in the wild) it naturally accumulates in the vase. Over time it mixes with bird and small animal droppings, dead insects as well as leaves and twigs which fall from above. As they break down they make a “soup” (for want of a better word) which acts as a continuous dose of a weak organic liquid fertiliser. The only time these vases get flushed out is when there is abnormally heavy or prolonged rain which fills the vases to such an extent that the sheer weight of the water in the vases will cause the plant to actually tip sideways while still attached to the host tree or cliff and empty itself out. Once the weight of the water is no longer pulling the plant over, it again takes on its normal posture and the process is started all over again. Personally I think we have a lot to learn from Mother Nature and by emulating her we can eliminate many of the cultural problems we are often confronted with and in this case we find the flushing out of the vases doesn't need to be done on such a regular basis as is commonly believed.

As for your pic's, well you really will have to stop putting up pic's of orchids or you'll turn me back into an orchidaholic once more. I think the Paph. Rothschildianum x St Swithin is an amazing plant and looks most surreal.

Shirley – I like the plants in the pic's you posted, especially your Neo 'Hot Blooded' which is another of the many beautiful hybrids bred by Alan Freeman; and if it ever wants a holiday please don't hesitate to send it down here as I'm sure we can accommodate it.

Breeindy – That's nice colour you and Shirley are getting in your Neo 'Lila', unfortunately I can never seem to get that much colour in them down here as the red only spreads about half way to the leaf tips, but then that's the price I pay for living in a cooler area. That picture you posted that the seller put up on E bay looks very much to me as though it's been digitally enhanced and I know there is one seller on there who does this to every pic they post, I'd better not say their name in case I finish up in gaol. But it is something to be aware of as some sellers will stop at nothing to sell their plants. In fact I've just spent a few minutes on Ebay and already have found two pic's that are “suss”, see pic's 1 and 2.

Well that's it for today, I've had my little “whinge” so I'll finish firstly with the 2 pic's I spoke of above and Pic 3 which is Billbergia Dorothy Berg, and finally Pic's 4 demonstrates just how unstable my clone of Bill. 'Ralph Graham French' (on the right of Bill.Dorothy Berg) really is while the pups in pic. 5 really confirm it.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

October 11, 2012
2:28 AM

Post #9302128

Hi all another windy day but overcast. Went through some more plants and found some mushroom scale in a crowded pot of N Sakura / pink marbled throat. I broke it up and treated the scale. I repotted it and will fertilise in a week or two. I use liquid fert and like to let plants settle before fertilising. I also had to water my seedlings again
Pic 1 is a sweet little number Ae cherry fizz.
Pic 2 N sakura/pink marbled throat by it's name tag
Pic 3 Noid hexagonal flower, not sure it is a pure Neo
Pic 4 Bil Carioca X Euphamie seedling
Pic 5 Mushroom scale on Sakura
Have a good one
Ian

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perke_patch

October 11, 2012
4:21 AM

Post #9302145

Hi everyone.
Missed calling in here last night. I tried everything to make it rain... left washing on the line overnight, watered all the broms so we didn't need the rain, finally today I opened a new packet of gum that I bought on the spure of the moment last night and it wasn't until I was doing that and thought "that's right it's raining now and the rest will sweat and have to be dumped". that's when I realised it worked ... made it rain hahaha. we had about 20ml today

Shirley in relation to those 2 NOIDs ... the first you've had id of neo lila and the 2nd I'm pretty sure is neo strawberry which we have. perhaps you got it from here????

Nev when I'm taking a pic of a tall thin plant I turn the camera sideways to get a full screen shot. When I upload I rotate the pic in my database but when I post one of these pics the computer rotates them back again. sorry about the kinked neck.
Pic 1 2 are pics of one of your seedlings Nev. The label says emevichal however doesn't say what genera and I can't find it in the FCBS or BCR. can you please give me more details?
Pic 3 is another one of our concentrica seedlings I discovered on the weekend when someone wanted to buy it. the pic doesn't show how smokey black the plant is. it is stunning. I'll try to capture the black again tomorrow.
Pic 4 is one of our painted delight seedlings PD3 taken yesterday but a pup of Pic 5 PD3 taken Oct 2011 (unless I named 2 plants with same number) but I'm sure this is one of the first pups taken off. It does look very different to the mother if it is.



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perke_patch

October 11, 2012
4:59 AM

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Nev I love your billbergia pics. the variegated ones are my all time favourites. I also agree with you that the colours in those first 2 pics are a bit rich and probably enhanced. I think I know which seller they come from. I'm sure I've purchased a plant from them and I'm equally sure it has never looked like the one I purchased.

Ian we'd love to see your seedling Bil Carioca X Euphamie when it colours up a bit more.

Shirley the colour in that neo hot blooded is a beauty like Nev said.

Nev was there any neos I have promised to send to you and not done yet? I have a packet of stamps to send to you and thought I might as well send a plant with them if there was anything I owed you. Did I send you an Alan Freeman hybrid neo called Narelle's Joy? it is a variegated one. If I did (or if you got one from me Shirley) we are getting it registered but with a name change. it will be called 'Freeman's Joy' as Aizelwoods have now registered neo hybrids called 'Narelle's Gift' and 'Narelle Joy' ... hence the name change.

Trish, Ian, Bree, Shirley, Karen and Sue... I hope you all got some of that rain today. we checked the weather channel and at one stage the whole of Qld practically was covered by one solid block of colours, so I think the rain was pretty widespread. Anyway as Nev said we are never satisfied and we certainly do need more to fill the tanks. we've had enough to be called a watering for the broms and the ground but not enough run off yet for the tanks. not holding my breath for more though but we can always hope. Anyway we are moving our youngest son from Dayboro to Wellington Point on Saturday and every time we have moved him so far it has rained so I'm sure it will live up to tradition and we'll get some more Saturday afternoon.

Ready for bed now so I'll post some more pics tomorrow night.

Wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 11, 2012
5:58 AM

Post #9302199

Hi all, some very happy gardens here at the moment following a bit of rain, not much mind you, but enough to revive some rather stressed shrubs and trees.

Bree, thanks for your pic of your neo Lila, it’s a lovely plant.

Nev, Wendy, my neo Hot Blooded has coloured up beautifully. I’ll post a pic of it taken just after I got it for a comparison … in fact, I’ll bore you all with a ‘before’ and ‘after’. I’ll even make it a ‘before’, ‘during’ and ‘after’ it got its’ lovely colour.

Wendy, that gum really seems to work for you … perhaps you should have started chewing a few weeks back. Re the 2 NOIDs I posted, I actually got the first one from you, the second one I got from the Olive Branch from the $5.00 shed at their last open day. I am surprised you are not going to be there this Saturday … or are you going there first. Anyway, it’s supposed to be fine on the weekend so you should get your son moved without rain, hope so anyway.

I think I might head off to bed too. Pics 1, 2 and 3 are neo Hot Blooded.

Bye for now, Shirley


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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 11, 2012
6:03 AM

Post #9302203

Hi again, the first photo above was taken on 06.06.12, the last one about a month ago, around 3 months in good light.
perke_patch

October 11, 2012
6:39 AM

Post #9302234

hi everyone. just popped back to see if anyone can id this aechmea. we took a lovely big pup off this today but the tag was faded and unreadable. hoping Jen or someone else may be able to suggest a name so I can put a new label in to both mum and pup.

Ta
Wendy

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 11, 2012
12:04 PM

Post #9302483


good morning.
Its not Hohenelia 'Nifty Nev' is it Wendy?
I had to catch up over two sessions! So much to read.
Firstly, Ian, I believe that your mushroom scale is the same soft brown scale as here. I am going to give the 50/50 water and metho a go next time, and see how it works.
Trish, that 2nd orchid is a beauty. Your little pups look healthy too.
Shirley, that Marble hybrid is gorgeous, and having just recently been looking at one called strawberry, I think Wendy could be right.
Nev, no, Billbergia 'Alan Ladd' is not mine, as Wendy said. Ross does have a few coming on, and they are very stable, so they will become available, but will be pricey for awhile.
I find the Aechmea weilbachiis to be cold tender here too. They seem to do bettter in the ground, and under cover of foliage.
looks like I bought an orchid I already have. I have one called Dendrobium periardii , and bought the new one because it had similar flowers but a different name! Whoops. My original hasn't flowered this year, and last year something ate the buds before they opened.
Anyway, not much to report here. I am hoping we had enough rain to put some water in the tanks.
Hello to everyone looking in. Have a happy friday.
Sue

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 11, 2012
12:48 PM

Post #9302508

The 1st 4 Nev sent me and are growing beautiful thanks Nev!
Oh No! (what are the raised bits on it..too dry?), Citation, Cheery Day, Break of Day, my treasure chest which i love at the moment.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 11, 2012
12:54 PM

Post #9302519

A few NOID pups, Sunset and Aztec(one of my favourites).

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 11, 2012
1:13 PM

Post #9302527

sorry im getting carried away with photos...hehe! Predator and heres my Red River Shirley.
I dont know about enhanced photos Nev, not saying its not done but i think them pics look real, looks like that 1st ones taken in the dark.
We did get abit of rain, just enough to water the lawn at least.
IAN that 3rd neo green with pink centre is Concentrica isnt it!



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 11, 2012
2:21 PM

Post #9302560

Hi all – We had a very “wild and woolly” night last night with thunder storms and very strong winds. There is a lot of thunder this morning as I start to write this at 6.00am and the forecast is for wide spread thunder storms, heavy rain and gale force winds, so there won't be much getting done out in the yard today. The rain will get a chance do a lot of good though, as the couple of days of light drizzle has softened up the soil so the predicted heavy rain will be able to soak in rather than just run off and be wasted.

Ian – Firstly, thank you for your pic of “Mushroom Scale”, it is the same as what we call “Soft Scale” down here and no doubt it's known by other names in other areas. The main thing is that we all know what it is when we are talking about ways of eradicating it. Your first pic of Ae 'Cherry Fizz' is an unusual looking plant with its attractive “spreading form” but I can't find any record of it being registered so I guess we won't know the parentage of it. The root system on your plant in pic two is very extensive, what do you contribute this to, is it the Condy's Crystals or do you have some secret magic root building formula you use?

I can't help you with a name for your NOID in pic three but I'd hazard a guess that one of its parents is Neo. Concentrica as I can just make out a few (very faint) "tell tale" concentric rings on the pup on the right. (the leaf closest to the centre)

I think your Bill seedling could have some promise as it has Bill. 'Poquito Blanco' in its past breeding as one of the parent of 'Carioca' and I think the name of the second parent could be Bill. 'Euphemie Waterman' as there isn't a 'Euphamie' registered. Russ Holzheimer bred a great looking Bill called Kolan 'Black Frost' using Bill. Domingus Martins x Euphemie Waterman so you may just be in with a chance of good looking seedling with that cross.

Wendy – I just looked up Neo 'Strawberry' on the BCR and although it's not a very good pic, there are certainly some similarities between that and Shirley's plant. Unfortunately it's of unknown parentage.

Wendy, when I take a pic of a tall plant, I just get back far enough until I can fit it all in the frame without turning the camera. I then crop the sides as required and that way when it's posted on here it is still the right way up.

Your Pic's 1 and 2 are of a seedling which came from a batch from American seed supposedly from Ae. emmerichiae which is a species and very similar in size and habit to blanchetiana. As I didn't collect the seed myself I can't guarantee its authenticity.

Congratulations! I think the plant in pic 3 is a real beaut and well worthy of registration; it's just as well you didn't sell it otherwise you wouldn't be able to swap me the first spare pup would you? Is the name of the other parent known or was it one that was pollinated by insects? It doesn't really matter how it was done anyhow as it's certainly a beautiful plant.

Like you say the plant in pic 4 is very different to the plant in pic 5 and I don't think they are the same plants because in my experience the pups from the original seedling are generally as good as or an improvement on the original plant which isn't the case here so maybe the name tags were mixed up somehow, however the plant in pic 5 is well worth keeping on its form alone.

Wendy, as for asking me to remember if there were any plants I had asked you to send and haven't yet received, that's a bit rich as I can't remember what happened yesterday, but I have checked the list of all my Neo's and I didn't get any plant from you called 'Narelle's Joy'. I will also have some more Neo seed which I'll send up in a week or two. By the way, sorry, but I can't help you with the ID of your Aechmea.

Shirley – Your Neo 'Hot Blooded' has certainly coloured up nicely. That's a great idea showing the three stages in that Neoregelia's growth and it does very clearly demonstrate how people can misjudge a plant from a pic especially if it's a pic that has been taken before the plant was mature and fully coloured up. As I've often told people, the only way you know for sure what you are getting is the correct plant is to get one when it is mature and fully coloured up. You should definitely only buy uncoloured pups from someone you know or a reputable dealer otherwise you run the risk of being “caught out”.

Sue - Bill. Allan Ladd isn't yours? What a "bummer" I thought you'd struck it rich. At least you got to see it in the flesh which is more than I have.

That's it for now, time for breakfast. Just a few random Neo. pic's today with Pic 5 being one of my own seedling crosses which is just starting to colour up.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 12, 2012
3:49 AM

Post #9302918

Hi Everyone

Another busy week of work over and done with, now looking forward to some time at home and as always in the garden.

My plans in the garden is to try out the Condys Crystals on some of my broms, I also have about 12 new broms to pot up as well as some new vegetable seedling to plant out into my veggie patch and I also need to take some cuttings of some of my herbs to give to a friend who wants to start a herb garden.

No rain happening here, the winds are keeping it well away which is a bit of a bugger.

Thanks everyone for the nice remarks regarding the orchids, I have passed feedback to my hubby who has been growing them successfully for a couple of years now, he gets a great deal of joy and feedback of the ones he has in our nursery. I am amazed at how quickly the flower spikes appear on some of them and how long the spikes are as well as how long the flowers last. I usually take one to work to pop of my desk and swap them with something else each week so they don’t miss out on any feeding etc. My hubbys a changed man since he started collecting them, it's like no matter how bad a day he has had at work they just relax him, likewise as my brommies do for me.

Hi Nev, luv all of your random Neo pics, they are all fantastic looking broms with amazing colors and I want them all, spoken like a try bromaholic lol. Thanks for the great info regarding the brom vases; I normally flush the centres out fortnightly when I see the vases getting too dirty which they do because none of my neo’s are under protective cover. Normally I try to only to flush out the one’s that really need it, in other words the one’s I can’t stand seeing so dirty, I know the dust, leaf matter etc. does not harm them but seeing them so dirty really annoys me because it takes away from seeing their beauty and makes me feel like I am not looking after them properly. I have always wanted a house keeper to clean my house once a fortnight but have never got one, maybe I need a housekeeper for my broms given I am so fussy hehehe.

Nev, sorry I tortured you with the Orchids, let us know if you ever get back into them and I will put you in touch with my hubby who is definitely an Orchidaholic lol. He’s collecting some really nice ones that totally blow me away when I see the flowers for the first time. He is doing a fantastic job looking after them and they are rewarding him with great growth and lots of flowers.

Hi Bree, just saw all the Neo pics you posted – wow they are amazing, great color in all of them, treasure chest is so very divine.

Hi Sue, thanks for nice comments regarding our orchid and broms, I missed seeing pics from you this time as I always luv seeing what you have posted.

Hi Wendy, hope the move goes well for your Son on Saturday. Rain has a tendency of appearing out of nowhere when your moving house, you wake up to beautiful blue skies, not a cloud in sight and then an hour down the road and the rain comes bucketing down, why is that lol.

Hi Shirley, great pics of Neo Hot Blooded, I have my hubby on the internet looking for one as I really luv the strong color that takes over the whole plant like how blood rushes to your checks when you get embarrassed, the name suits this Neo very well indeed.

Anyway better get going, catch up with you all next time.

Happy Gardening!

Pic 1: Vr. Elysian Kandy
Pic 2: Neo Fairy Paint x Chloriostica
Pic 3: Neo President Red
Pic 4 Ae. Correia Araujoi (did I get this one’s name right?)
Pic 5: Vr. Gulz x Red Chestnut

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perke_patch

October 12, 2012
4:41 AM

Post #9302939

wow I do love seeing all those pics lately. we all seem to have something special that nobody else has. doesn't matter how extensive we think our own collection is there is always one we haven't got. I do love the variegated ones though.

Bree I love you variegated one in pic 2. lots of fine irregular variegation which will be perfect for collecting seed to get variegated seedlings. I live for the day when I find a nice variegated one in a tray of seedlings and now that I know what to look for in a parent plant I will get there one day.

Nev you seem to have some really lovely neos in your collection. love the perfect shape and colour of your first pic and the variegated one in the 2nd pic is superb. But I really love the variegation in that last one of your seedling. I look forward to seeing a pic when it is at it's splendid best at flowering.

I didn't get a chance to take many pics today as the wind was so bad it was dangerous to be out in the yard with all the branches and twigs flying around. I was on the phone this morning when Johnny went to the dump with all the palm fronds that came down in the wind, and I heard this almightly bang. I thought at first "that'd be right ... he's just gone to the dump and now there's another one down" but I couldn't see where it was. Then I noticed the umbrella tree next door in the old lady's. half came down over next doors garage last Sunday in the strong SE wind but this morning another section came down straight across the yard towards us in the W wind. It took some big branches off the tree beside our fence so I hope it didn't open up too much sun into the back section of our yard. Gee it was a loud bang too. Anyway she rang Johnny this afternoon and asked him if he could come over to remove it from the neighbours garage roof. He told her it was too big a job to do by himself but he would help her son if he came over to do it. She didn't want to disturb him she said. OK to disturb us though. Anyway they will do it next Monday. Anyway her grandson is now living under her house so he can help his father cart it all away. Johnny is happy to chop it up with his chainsaw.

Pic 1 is neo freddie which has lots of variegation and I hope will give me some variegated seedlings.
Pic 2 is neo lilac prince which I think will also give variegated seedlings.
Pic 3 is neo narelle's joy which will be registered as Freeman's joy

I'm off to bed soon so I'll wish everyone a good night and hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 12, 2012
2:21 PM

Post #9303385

Hi everyone – Well we've had 24 hours of rain and strong wind and every thing's had a really good watering; now it looks like the sun's going to come out so now I can just sit and watch everything grow.

Breeindy – Sorry I missed out answering you yesterday but we must have been typing at the same time because when I went to check what I had posted there was a message to say there was someone who had posted before me and to read it.

Anyway, your first four plants are looking well, however Neo. 'Break of Day' will give much better colour when grown in brighter light, but having said that, I guess colour is a matter of personal taste.

Speaking of personal taste, you seem to like the spotted types; do you have Neo 'Gold Fever', Neo 'Gold Fever Select', Neo 'Gold Fever Too' or Neo.'Gold Fantasy'? They are four of my favourite spotted types and I'll post pictures below.

Trish – You say you are going to plant some new vegetable seedlings out this weekend; have you ever tried (the original) Seasol on them? I always used it when I had a vegetable garden and always soaked new punnets of plants in it before planting, and watered them in with it after planting. I never had any transplant wilt and never lost a seedling, it's fantastic stuff and great for brom's as well.

I notice the gravel on the top of your pots of nice looking pups and just have to ask is this just a decorative topping, or do you use it as a growing medium as a lot of the growers I know up in far north Queensland do? As for Ae. Correia Araujoi, yes you did get the spelling right, but let's hear you pronounce it!

I see you live in Townsville and have to ask if you know Rob Smythe. He lives there also and is a very good brom grower who has hybridised many beautiful plants. I understand he has a wonderful collection which he likes to show to people. Although I correspond with him occasionally I've never had the chance to meet him in person or see his collection, but if you get a chance to do so, please say hello to him from me.

Wendy – That last pic of the variegated seedling is one I bred from the variegated Neo. 'Painted Lady' sport I have mentioned previously. I'm hopeful that as a plant showing all that fine lineage it may turn out to be a good transmitter of variegation; so when it flowers, out cones the fertilising equipment and we'll find out for sure.

What you say about the lady next door seems to have a lot of similarities with an old mate (94) of mine who always calls me instead of his son when he's crook. Although his son only lives a shorter distance away than me, he always has an excuse why he can't come. One time when my old mate had been crook all week and I had been ringing him daily to check on him, this particular evening there was no answer, so I left it for ten minutes and tried again still no answer so after another ten minutes I tried again with the same result, so I rang his son and told him I was concerned that the old fellow had had another fall. I was told in no uncertain terms that he was having his dinner and his wife was watching her favourite TV show, and it wasn't until after I “bored it up him” a bit and explained that we were talking about his father here and to get off his arse and go and check on him he agreed to go around and see if everything was alright. When he got there he found him on the bathroom floor where he had been for several hours after having a fall. The thing is that this old bloke now always rings me in preference to his son as he doesn't like to disturb him! Much the same as your situation wouldn't you say?

I know variegated plants are your favourites and I'll see if I can dig up a few more pic's to post tomorrow. Looking at the pic's you have posted today, my favourite would have to be Neo 'Lilac Prince, I think the subtle colours are fantastic and I would also suspect that it could be a variegation transmitter as well. Although the Neo 'Freeman's Joy' is a nice plant I don't think it would be a very good transmitter as it seems to be more albo-marginated than a straight variegated plant. It's a well know fact that albo-marginated plants usually just produce useless albino seedlings and not variegated ones, but as it seems to be a bit of a mixture of both albo-marginated and variegated markings, it might be interesting to try it just to see what it does produce, remember, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Well that's it from me today and now for a few pic's; Pic.1 is Neo. Break of Day showing the colouring when grown in strong light. In this case hanging right up just below the roof of 75% beige shade cloth. Pic.2 is Neo. 'Gold Fever', Pic.3 is Neo 'Golden Fantasy', Pic.4 is Neo.'Gold Fever Too' and Pic.5 is 'Gold Fever Select'.

All the best, Nev

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 13, 2012
12:19 AM

Post #9303696

Hi Everyone!

What a beautiful day it is today with the right amount of breeze blowing to keep cool in the garden.

I got all my broms potted as well as some variegated agave seedlings potted to sell down the track for some extra pocket money to use for my garden supplies. I do this also with all my gingers and heliconias also. A bit too hot yet to plant my vegetable seedlings into the veggie patch; missed the opportunity this morning as we took our dogs to the beach for a nice walk. Planning to get the vegetable seedlings into their bed later this arvo when the sun starts going down and want to give the veggie patch and herb garden a good water as well as the heliconia and ginger garden.

Hi Nev, thanks for the great advice regarding using the original Seasol for my vegetable seedlings; we are heading out to Bunnings tomorrow to grab some more supplies so I will buy some then. I normally give mine a soak in a very light mixture of seaweed solution, is this similar to Seasol???

Nev, I use the gravel mainly for support and also a little in the bottom for drainage, it seems to work great and and all my broms seem to thrive from this method whether they are pups or large plants. I hardly every need to prop my pups up with any other support but sometime I do have to use wooden skewers in my smaller pup vrieseas just to give them the extra stability as well as still use the gravel method. I wash the gravel well prior to using.

Nev, I have heard through another bromeliad collector in Townsville Rob Smythe's name in passing conversation that he has a wonderful collection but I have not met him in person but hopefully our paths will cross one day, which is very probable given we share the same interest. If I ever get to meet him I will definitely pass on your hello.

Nev, glad to hear I got the spelling right for Ae. Corriea Araujoi, I am not too sure if I say it right but when I do say it my French accent takes over and no one seems to correct me when I say it lol. Also luved all your neo pics, your neo's always look so full of health and great colour what’s your secret?

Hi Wendy, luved all your neo’s especially Lilac Prince like Nev this one was my favourite as my favourite colour are lilac and purple.

Anyway, I better get back to gardening as day one in the garden is nearly over and done with already, can’t believe how quickly the day has flown past, looks like I might be working in the garden with the spotlight on again, becoming a bit of a habit of late lol.

Also off to the market in the morning to see if anyone new is selling broms.

Oh before I forget, I nearly forgot to mention that I am pleased to discover this morning another pup on one of my vrieseas, so far two pups on the one plant that is yet to flower so I am very pleased to see this happening again - yeah. I must have about 70 / 80 different types of vrieseas now and I still want more, can’t get enough of them, my concern is now the pups that will be coming on each and every one of them and where am I going to put them all, I will have to rethink my theory of keeping 3 or 4 of everything, maybe a couple of pups of each will be sufficient.

Anyway better get going, catch up with you all next time.

Happy Gardening!

Pic 1: Till. About to flower in Mango Tree
Pic 2: Mixture of Broms out in the garden (photo a couple of months old) colors are more intense now. At some stage I will surround these puts possible with bark to hide the pots but for now I want to hold off to see what summer has in stall and whether they can stay in the same spot over summer.
Pic 3: Neo NOID - Any ideas ???
Pic 4: Neo Wee Willy (so cute)
Pic 5: Neo The Duke (it has grown heaps since this pic was taken)

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ianperry

October 13, 2012
3:49 AM

Post #9303741

Hi all. Rain threatened but all we got was more wind, the moisture eluded us once again. Ah well good job there is plenty in the hose. I collected some more seed and did not plant any today, meeting day tomorrow after the markets so they will wait for a while,

Bree the NOID could very well be a concentrica, it is smaller and more toothed andcoloured than the others that are labled. Light could also have an effect on colour as this 1 has been in better light than the others. The centre leaves seem to be distorting the shape of the flower to a hexagonal shape more than the normal round. It could be just an individual thing and I don't know the rules of ID as yet. It is a nice plant all the same.

Nev, The root ball on Sakura was from 1 years growth according to the name tag and I only bought it in May this year at a market. I thought it ready to break up then but didn't have time to do so. I have just done it now. I loosened those roots as with a Bonsai this root structure is desirable to restrict growth and promote miniturisation.
The indented spots on a concentricta tell me of its breeding, what do the rings you talked about tell us. I haven't heard about them. I think I can see what you are talking about in the pic.
I will ask about Cherry Fizz's parentage tomorrow when I check on Ammonia and vinegar mix recipe. I will also invite her to join our group.
Everyone is showing good looking plants.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Bil Dangerous dan flowering
Pic 2 N NOID, usually just hangs around on the front of my bush house and gets full sun from 8.oo am to around 5.oopm
Pic 3 N mini Cayene
Pic 4 N mini dinkum
Pic 5 N burle marxi fantacy

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perke_patch

October 13, 2012
3:50 AM

Post #9303742

hi everyone. we went to Olive Branch today on the way to Dayboro to pick up our sons furniture. and you wouldnt' believe who we bumped into but our own Shirley and her hubby Michael. so nice to see you again Shirley without having to chat on DG. LOL. we took home 2 boxes of broms and had to squeeze them into the 2 cars as they wouldn't fit into the truck.

While we were unpacking the truck tonight a really wierd and spooky thing happened. a photo frame fell out of a box and Johnny bent down to pick it up without knowing it was a pic of his mum with emily when Em was only a baby. anyway as Johnny was bending down to get it emily's bedside cabinet with a butterfly shaped nightlight on the side flashed on and off again. It's wierd because it has to be plugged into a wall socket and Chris said it hasn't been connected or turned on for a couple years. both of them saw it and looked at each other in amazement. they then raced inside to tell us what had happened. first thing we checked when we got home was answering machine to see if we had missed a call from the nursing home. how spookey is that? anyway no news yet sothat is good news ... wonder if it's an omen though??? If the phone rings tonight we'll get such a fright.

I think I might have an early night tonight. Rylee was awake before 5am this morning and wouldn't go back to sleep so I'm totally exhausted with that early start and loading furniture and babysitting to keep the girls out of the way. we got out to their house and Jess was still packing things. it should have been all packed up during the week. anyway lots of fighting and arguing later and we got it done but we have to go back on Monday with the ute to clear up the last few bits left behind. Gee I'm looking forward to a sleep in.

Oh and Max is not well. where they shaved his chest to monitor his heart during his teeth extractions last Friday... well that shaved area is now a hot spot and all red and infected. So we've now had another vet bill and now he has antibiotic cream and tablets. Oh and he's wearing a modified flannelette shirt so he can't access the spot to lick or scratch it.

Night all
Wendy
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 13, 2012
4:48 AM

Post #9303757

Hi Everyone!

Hi Wendy sounds like you have all had a very big day, hope you are getting some well-deserved rest. Hope Max gets well soon he has been through the wars the poor fella; there is nothing worse than seeing them in pain or discomfort.

Thought I would post a couple of pics my hubby Joe took late this arvo that really captured the true colour of these various broms. Maybe I should start getting him to take the photos as he does and better job but I will not tell him that or he will get a big head lol.

Finally got my vegetable seedlings planted on dark and hand watered the garden by spotlight :-)

I have so many neo's in flower at the moment and it takes me longer than usual to visit them because I stand and admire them for longer it seems, or we sit there with our cups of tea talking about them and the orchids, aint life grand.

Anyway time to put the kettle on again...

Happy gardening!

Hope you enjoy the following pictures taken by Joe:


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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 13, 2012
5:08 AM

Post #9303760

More pics taken by Joe while he's on a roll lol:

Pic 1 & 2 taken by Joe today. Does anyone know what Pic 2 is Neo NOID?, I got this from an orchid show many months ago with no tag, it's colouring up well.
Pic 3 was taken a couple of months ago by me, I luv the colours in the flower, it lives in our nursery.

Sorry to do this to you Nev but a couple of more orchid pics - I could not help myself.

Trish

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 13, 2012
2:59 PM

Post #9304145

Hi everyone – Well it turned out to be a nice fine day yesterday and I was able to do the rounds of the yard and check for wind damage among my plants. Fortunately it was only minor with only just a few pots blown over which was much less than I expected as there were tree branches down all along the street, however once again my plants survived the wind.

Trish – Although a lot of people speak of the (original) Seasol as a fertiliser, this isn't really correct as it's function is as a “tonic” where it is used more to enhance the plant's own ability to ward off disease and other problems. It is made from Kelp seaweed which is a renewable resource and is really a product which I have had wonderful results with. I used it initially after a severe hail storm where the brom's in the garden just looked like so much “green confetti” and again later the next year after our famous New Years Day heatwave where everything in the garden was “cooked”, and the recovery of the plants in both cases was nothing less than amazing and it's a product I now use on a monthly basis on everything, even the smallest seedlings and delicate ferns.

It is now also manufactured in various forms including fertilisers, however the one I speak of and regularly use is the “original” Seasol tonic. To find out more about this great product look at http://www.seasol.com.au/

As for Robb Smythe, as well as being a well known brom hybridiser he is also a retired chemist who has made up various environmental and human friendly insecticides in his primary quest to control “Flyspeck Scale” and mosquitoes. He is a great “information sharer” and even prints a little free monthly newsletter called Bromwatch Townsville which I'm sure he would gladly email to you if he had your email address. Although he has bred and registered many beautiful Neo Hybrids, his main interest is in trying to sort out the confusion among the names of many Alcantareas, an interest he's spent countless hours on trying to sort out for the benefit of all Alcantarea growers.

You say your concern now is about all the pups coming on your vrieseas and where you're going to put them all. Take it from me this is only a small part of your problem "the tip of the iceberg" so to speak as you're forgetting all of the seed you planted and where you'll put all those resulting seedlings. Best buy a farm I think.

Once again you (and "hubby") have produced some great pic's; unfortunately I can't help you with a name for the NOID in pic 3 of your first lot of pic's, but maybe if you post it again when it's mature and fully coloured up, one of us may be able to identify it.

I see hubby's using Sue's idea of taking a pic of his foot along with the plant for size comparison, it's really a good idea and helps keep everything in perspective. As well as an orchid grower he's also a great photographer, and he really did capture the beautiful colours of your plants. What is the name of the plant in the second picture of the second last lot of pic's you posted and what's that in the centre where the flower should be? Also I like the NOID in pic 2 of the last lot you posted, it has the most unusual colour combination and is certainly very different to the usual run of Neo's. It's a pity we don't know the plants in the breeding of it. Also what's the name of the variegated plant in pic 3 of the last batch? The flower looks very Bill. Pyramidalis like.

Ian - You say you don't know the “rules of ID” yet, well let me say although there's no substitute for experience, you can help it along the way, if you go to http://fcbs.org/ Scroll down to “Bromeliad Information” and then open “Glossary by Derek Butcher”. When you have taken in all of this you will more than likely be an expert in the rules of ID!

There are many different indicators to be looked for when identifying any brom and I am certainly far from being very experienced in this area, but having bred seedlings using Neo Concentrica as a parent those “concentric rings” I speak of are just one of the indicators I have observed. These "rings" on the leaves of concentrica are where it gets its name from and there are differing views on how these rings are formed. They are usually apparent in one form or another in all genuine Concentrica plants, as well as in many (not all) of its hybrids. I find they are a reasonably reliable indicator of Concentrica being used in the breeding if plants are displaying these rings, I'll post some pic's to show what I'm talking about.

Wendy – There's many unexplained very puzzling things that occur for which we don't have an answer and one that comes to mind is my father-in-law's brother's watch. It was a very good quality watch which never gave any trouble but one night it stopped at three minutes past twelve. This was the exact time of my father-in-law's death in N.S.W when his brother was living in Qld. The strange thing is, that once his brother had picked it up and seen that it had stopped, it started going again, just like it was waiting to tell him something had happened at that time. I guess we all still have a lot to learn about how things in this life really work.

As for Max; well a “hot spot” isn't all that serious and they often appear when dogs are stressed or in ill health. I had an old blue cattle dog who often got them in the hot weather as he had trouble tolerating it in his old age and it used to stress him really badly. We got an ointment from the vet called “Ilium Neocort” it cost $8 a tube and was amazing stuff and cleared the hot spots up in a few days. I've recommended it to many friends who have similar problems with their dogs and they all have had the same good results from it. Fortunately, down here we can just buy it direct from the vet without any consultation charge.

Well that's it for today and I'll post a few pic's now of various plants with the concentric rings I was speaking about to Ian earlier. Pic 1 is a file film from the FCBS Photo Index and is of a true Concentrica species, Pic 2 is of a Concentrica x (Charm c Cracker Jack)
plant I bred myself and the rings are also evident in its foliage. Pic 3 is Neo. Phyllis (which I've posted before) but the rings are very evident in this as well and although we can't prove that it has Concentrica in the parentage, one of it's parents called Neo 'Two Tone' has the same tell tale rings, but unfortunately its parents are not known, but if I was a betting man I'd bet there is Concentrica in there in the (unknown) background somewhere, Pic 4 is Neo 'Beetroot' which is a hybrid which has Concentrica in both parents (hence the very prominent rings) and finally Neo. 'Alvin Purple' of which the seed parent is Concentrica with the pollen parent unknown.

I know all of this is boring to some of you, but it's interesting nevertheless and handy to know if you intend to do any hybridising.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 13, 2012
3:36 PM

Post #9304159

Wendy i dont know what my varigated one is.
Nev my break of day is in full sun and seems to be just starting to colour. I do seem to have alot of spotted ones dont i, i have a few NOID spotted broms that look like Gold Fever.
Ian no i dont think my NOID has concentrica in it as it doesnt have any rings, it is really plain and stays like that just gets more pink/red with age, can take full sun easy and is a fairly small brom when full grown.
Trish- beautiful brom pics, i dont know what 2 is but its awsome like your paphs.
Now there concentricas! nice Nev!
ianperry

October 14, 2012
1:31 AM

Post #9304511

Hi all, nothing much happening here today. i went to the meeting and confirmed the recipe to control flyspec scale is 50/50 ammonia and metho, leave for 1/2 hour and wash off if you like. Leaving it there doesn't seem to hurt either. The metho dries out the scale and the ammonia chokes it.
For controlling mosquitoes from Rob Smythe is to put fresh coffee grinds into the vase and it does something to the water to stop the breeding or so another member tells me. I nnvited another member to join our group here and gave details as to how, she said that she is definitely interested. I only bought a few plants today, 1 is an Ae that i would like to identify. There is a picture included. Still no rain.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 N rags to riches
Pic 2 Ae NOID

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 14, 2012
5:38 AM

Post #9304574

Hi everyone, I haven’t checked in for a couple of days as we have been really busy. So much catching up to do, so many posts to read and such stunning pics.

The weather has been so unpredictable the last week or so, really hot, then very cold and windy. Unfortunately the wind has returned tonight. It blew a gale here on Friday … what a mess, leaves and sticks everywhere, pots blown over, large ones too. Could be worse though, down the road about 500 metres away, a huge gum tree snapped off at ground level, smashed through a fence and retaining wall, missing a house by only a few feet ... they were very lucky.

I got a few lovely new broms at the Olive Branch, Wendy, but no vrieseas. I am looking forward to coming over to collect the ones you are holding for me and see if I can talk Johnny to parting with a couple more of his babies … don’t like my chances but worth a try !!!

I got a few neos, a neophytum Galactic Warrior, a Quesnelia Tim Plowman and an Ae Aztec Gold, oh and a Bill Ballerina. I have taken pics of most of them and will post over the next few days … have to make them last.

Trish, I also have so many neos in flower and really looking forward to getting lots of pups so I can start swapping with others ... you certainly have some beauties, really lovely pics.

Anyway, I’ll post a couple of my new treasures and catch up tomorrow.

Bye for now, Shirley


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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 14, 2012
5:43 AM

Post #9304580

ps ... I have just worked out how to add text to a photograph but of course, you can't read it without enlarging the pic. Pic 1 is neo Devil's Ruby, pic 2 is neo Oli Blush novar.
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 14, 2012
2:47 PM

Post #9305006

Good morning everyone.
Sorry i have been AWOL again. Without boring you all to tears, lets just say it was a weekend I'd rather forget.
We've had some nice rain here over the weekend, and its all fresh and green. There was supposed to be some bad weather, but it looks as though it passed over, as there is no sign of damage here.
Shirley, I like your idea of adding the text to the picture, and a good way to get lurkers to open the pics for a better look.
Ian, thanks for the tips on mossie control and the ingredients for the scale remedy. I had a look at photo two, (is that your noid) and thought I could see some resemblance to either Aechmea bromelifolia, or A. purpureorosea, but not enough to really be definite, because A. purpureorosea (here) has very dark green leaves, and bromelifolia (here) has plain green leaves, whereas I thought I could determine a few spots on the foliage of yours, and it looks to be bronzy-pink?
Nev, Neo. 'Phylis' is a standout in your pics. I notice the concentrica swirls in alot of Neos, so it must be a great one for hybridising with.
Trish, lots of lovely photos. Without opening the noid one (or I will lose my post) I think it looks a little like N. 'Lucky Break'?
Wendy, I do hope Max improves somewhat. I have yet to go through 'old dog' experiences, as mine are 6 and 8, and In the past, my dogs have either found new homes, or died prematurely (that sounds like I'm not a good dog owner, but fate plays funny games)
Anyway, I bought a new Aechmea on the weekend, and the french woman who sold it to me almost talked my ears off, and i almost walked away without it! I'll give her points for enthusiasm, but her sales technique was terrible. I didn't get a word in, to at least tell her i wasn't a complete novice, and instead got the whole speil about bromeliads, how many species there were, where to situate them and an individual breakdown of all the plants she had for sale (none of them labelled, and she didn't know names) It was tiring, and I was only interested in the one I was holding. Anyway, I will include a pic and am sure someone will know it, right away. Its photo one (in front of Neo. 'Skotaks tiger')
Photo two is a Catlans, A. blanchettiana hybrid called 'Alvin purple' (A. malva on the right)
Photo three is Tillandsia scheideana in flower (originally from you wendy)
And lastly is Dendrobium lindleyi (A LeisaD inheritance)
Sue

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 14, 2012
2:51 PM

Post #9305013

Trish, I opened your pic for a better view, and its nothing like N. 'Lucky break'. I am sure there used to be a different photo in the BSI photo index? Anyway, my mistake.
Is that Aechmea 'Alvarez' or 'Rodco' in your first lot of pics (second photo)?

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 14, 2012
11:04 PM

Post #9305519

Hi everyone – Well the rain's gone and so has the wind. The sun is shining, it's a really beautiful day and I wouldn't be dead for quids!

Breeindy – I have found down here that the spotted Neo's seem to be going out of favour, however I still like them and find they are good to break up the other colours. It seems to be a “fashion” thing which I imagine will eventually go the full circle just like the variegated ones did a few years back and are now popular once more.

Looking at your answer to Ian where you say, “I don't think my NOID has concentrica in it as it doesn't have any rings”, I hope I haven't misled you in my previous post, but what I meant was that if the concentric rings (or part of them) are present there is a good chance it has Neo. concentrica somewhere in the breeding, (it is merely one of many indicators). I didn't mean that all plants with Neo. concentrica in the breeding have to show these rings as they don't, e.g. many of the variegated and spotted types with concentrica in the breeding don't show these markings at all, but I suspect they are still carrying that particular gene which may well show up in a later crossing somewhere down the track.

Ian – Thanks for passing on the ammonia and metho recipe for the treatment of scale. It will certainly be one worth trying and I hope the friend you mentioned does eventually join our little group as we can all learn from each other.

I can't help you with the pic of your Aechmea I tend to go along with Sue to a certain degree with it possibly being Ae purpureorosea. I'm not familiar with this plant but looking at the pic's on the FCBS, none of them seem to have any leaf markings at all, and I know the same applies to Ae bromeliifolia, (albobracteata and the rubra form) as I have both and again without any leaf markings. The other possibility is that these marking may be from some sort of trauma e.g. spikes or scratches caused by another plant. It looks like the only sure way for an ID is to wait until it flowers Ian and then we can hopefully all be sure.

Shirley – That sounds like a pretty good haul of plants you scored. Galactic Warrior is a beautiful plant, but you need to just be a bit careful with the leaves as they are a bit brittle and easily broken. One of the elderly ladies in our society grows the best Galactic Warriors I've ever seen and she consistently wins prizes in shows with them every year. When asked what her secret is, she just says there is no secret, just plenty of 'light ' and plenty of “feeding”. (Incidently her food consists of dynamic lifter soaked in a bin of water with the resulting fluid diluted with water until its the colour of weak tea and used as foliar fertilizer every two weeks all through the year)

Ques. Tim Ploughman is another interesting plant with its curled leaf ends which look like they have been artificially curled. All this plus some good quality Neo's as well as a newly discovered computer skill; you've certainly had a busy weekend haven't you?. You really must share with us how you put the names on your pic's though, it will certainly be very handy when looking for a particular pic.

Sue – As I mentioned in a previous post there were two different plants of Neo Phyllis and I sent away for a pup thinking it was the one in the pic. of my last post only to find I finished up with a pup from a different one, and although it's OK, it's not as striking as the one in my picture. I've recently looked this second plant up on the BCR at http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=9858#9858 and find it is now called Neoregelia 'Phyllis OT'. Unfortunately I've still not been able to track down a plant like the one in the picture and it's just possible that it isn't even in Australia at all as that is an American picture.

The BCR also has this to say about it:
Qld, AU for a plant different to the other ‘Phyllis’ circulating in Australia. Plant 65 x 20 cm high, See detail under ‘Uncle Derek Says’

When I checked out the 'Uncle Derek Says' I found the following, written by Uncle Derek when he was registrar:

When we were setting up this data base we realised there were many duplicate names (over 100!) and decided to do something about them. In many cases we combined the name of the hybridist AND the Cultivar name. For example if you search on Neoregelia Tiger you will get many answers. In the answers you will see Baker's Tiger and Skotak's Tiger, which shows which Tiger you may be searching for. We hope to stop duplicate names in the future but it is possible it can still happen especially with hybrids that have been in circulation for some years without being registered.

Based on the above information it's possible that the “OT” after the name 'Phyllis' stands for Olive Trevor and it may be easy to find out if one of you lucky people who get to visit Olive regularly, simply ask her what she knows about this particular plant.

As for Neo. concentrica being a great parent, it is; and there are currently 500 plants registered as being products of concentrica as a parent.
See http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php . As well as this there are very likely just as many (or more) that haven't been registered.

Sue your Aechmea NOID is either a species called Ae. triangularis or a hybrid called Ae 'Red Bands' which is a hybrid produced by crossing Ae maculata with Ae. triangularis.

I'm beginning to get orchid withdrawal symptoms once again when you post these pic's of beautiful Dendrobiums. Dendrobium lindleyi is another of the beautiful Indian Dendrobiums which like many from that country have those beautiful bright buttercup yellow flowers.

That's it for today, I'm starting to get RSI from too much typing so now for a few pic's. Let me say that I currently have a bit of a liking for the marbled type Neo's so I'll show you mine if you show me yours. Pic 1 is Neo. 'Running River', Pic 2 is Neo. 'Marble Snow', Pic 3 is Neo. 'Marble Pink', Pink 4 is Neo. (Marble Throat seedling) pic 5 is Neo. 'Pink Marble Delight'.

All the best, Nev.

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 15, 2012
3:13 AM

Post #9305557

Hi everyone,

Sue, sorry to hear your weekend was not a good one and I hope the week ahead improves for you.

Nev, thanks for the info on fertilizer and Galactic Warrior. I was wondering if I should fertilize my neophytums. I know neos should only be fertilized when potting up or if they are throwing pups and vrieseas and alcantareas need regular feeding but wasn’t too sure about aechmeas, bills and neophytums. And what about Quesnelias.

As for adding names or text to photos, it’s part of the photo program ADCSee software and I would imagine all the photo programs have something similar. It’s a bit time consuming but really pretty simple, I just never bothered to play around with it before.

I only have a couple of marbled neos and I posted them recently so I’ll attach pics of a couple more of my newbies.

Pic 1 is neophytum Galactic Warrior, pic 2 is quesnelia Tim Plowman
Bye for now, Shirley

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 15, 2012
3:40 AM

Post #9305563

Hi Everyone!

Hi Nev thanks for the additional information on Original Seasol Fertiliser, I purchased some on the weekend and have already started using on my vegetable seedlings.

Nev luved all your pics as always, especially Neo Running River, what a stunner.!

Nev the first thread that I posted back on 13/10 NOID Pic 3 is fully grown and coloured. Nev the second thread that I posted back on 13/10 Pic 2 is a Neo NOID that I purchased from the Townsville Orchid Show for $10 with no label (the seller did not know its’ name), at the time I thought it might have been Neo Cherry Jam or similar but to this day I still do not know what it is but I luv how big it has grown and how well it has coloured up. Nev you are very correct the third thread that I posted back on 13/10 Pic 3 is Billbergia Pyramidalis ‘Kyoto’, if you do not have Kyoto let me know and when I get a pup I will put one aside for you.

Nev thanks I will plan to get in touch with Robb Smythe via email as he sounds like a very interesting person that knows a lot about everything to do with brom’s, hopefully one day I can meet him in person.

Nev so true what you say ‘Best Buy a Farm’ lol given how addicted I am to collecting broms. We have fruit trees, vegetable / herb gardens, the only thing we are missing is the farm animals and more space for bromeliads lol.

Hi Bree, thanks glad to hear you liked my broms and thanks for trying with the NOID, I will keep trying to find out what it is? Did you get my D-Mail or did my attempt fail?

Hi Shirley, thanks glad to hear you liked my broms; I also really liked your Neo Devils Ruby and Neo Oli Blush Nova and Galactic Warrior. Yeah how exciting is it to see so many neo’s in flower. Yes by all means would be more than happy to swap with anyone when I get some pups happening, I just want to make sure I keep a small stock pile of each different one that I have in case I was too loose one as at the moment of have singulars of everything apart from the odd plant here and there that I luved that much I had to buy 2 of.

Hi Sue thanks for trying to identify my NOID. Luved all your pics and especially the Den. Orchid, I showed Joe and he really likes it especially because its’ such a bright and cheerful colour.

Sue yes your right that 2nd Pic was of Ae. Rodco – Inverta in flower, it is the first time I have seen it flower and I was de-leafing it the other day and realised the leaf I was pulling near the flower was in fact part of the flower lol, now I know for the next time it flower and have let Joe know so he does not try doing what I did, lucky the flower is still in one piece. The flower and leaves coming off the flower remind me of native flowers.

Anyway time to put the kettle on.

Happy gardening!

Pic 1 Neo NOID - any idea's?
Pic 2 Vr. You Beaut F2
Pic 3 Vr. The Daintree x Illusion
Pic 4 Neo Concentrica Johannis
Pic 5 Vr. Kiwi Sunset

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perke_patch

October 15, 2012
5:47 AM

Post #9305631

HI. Ian I think your aechmea looks like one I have called tochintina. It is tall and thin with that nice dark throat.

Nev I love your neo Phyllis. the colour is devine. I didn't know about those concentric rings showing concentrica in parentage. I always looked for the concentric pattern of the leaves but now I'm sitting here thinking of all the neos with the concentric ring markings.

Shirley I notice that your tim plowman has 2 tubes. a word of warning ... they don't like to be alone so always leave 2 tubes joined together but when you get 4 tubes joined together always cut between them to leave 2 groups of 2 joined. this way both groups are pupping for you. When we got our first tim plowman I was a very good friend and gave Jen the first pup. a few years later when I went to Jen's place I saw her tim plowman that was a pot full of tubes and ours was still sitting alone and sulking. It sulked for years before pupping again. we had about 6 or 7 tubes in th pot until recently when Johnny took a couple out and sold hem to someone. I'm not happy with that now. they look so lonely. I've told him not to sell anymore. I love galactic warrior. Johnny asked Olive how she got them to grow so big and she said to leave the pups on till they are big, then they grow bigger. if you take them off small they mature before they get the size. We've had galactic warrior for a while now but Johnny thought Olive's were so big and well coloured he just had to have another one.

Nev info about neo Phyllis. The story we got from Phyllis Hobbs is that at one of the meeting she and Olive swapped plants. as they were both unnamed Phyllis called her plant from Olive "neo Olive" this one is now named as neo morrissiana. Of course Olive called her neo Phyllis. this has now been registered as Phyllis OT for Olive Trevor as she registered it. I would say that Phyllis got the plant from Alan Freeman as it obviously has concentreca and he used it in most f his hybrids.

Sue we had one of those weekends too where you just want to forget it. the week has started out the same. we just want to have some time to ourselves to do what we need to do... no requests for help from anyone... just peace and quiet. Today the old lady next door asked Johnny to help her son get the fallen tree off the roof next door. we knew we had to help Chris move the last ute full of stuff from Dayboro so Johnny and I went over first thing this morning with the ladder and chainsaw. Of course no sign of her son to help. It turned out to be not only her olf umbrella tree (half went west in the SE winds last weekend and last Friday in those very strong W winds half of what was left came straight towards us. The peach tree and half another tree along our fence in her yard also came down but luickily straight into her yard not towards our yard. so Johnny simply used the chainsaw to cut the branches into manageable sized pieces which I dragged out of his way. we didn't make piles or anything but left it all spread out all over her yard thinking her son would turn up today to cart it all to the dump. He came late this afternoon after we got home but simply looked at it all and left it. we are not doing anything else or her now as once we had finished cutting it all up and lugged the ladder and tools home again we were on the back deck having a well deserved cuppa when her grandson came out of the flat under her house with his girlfriend and walked around to front yard, hopped in his car and left. If we'd known he was in bed we would have called him out to help. that's it. no more. we are sick of being used when they do nothing. we are so busy doing for everyone else all the time we don't get time to do our own stuff. anyone ever feel like that????

tomorrow we have to go out to Johnny's sisters to have brakes changed on our car. we'll probably get nothing done tomorrow now either. I can't keep my eyes open now so I'm off to bed. I'll have a quick look for a pic of ae tockintina. no success. will have to get a pic tomorrow. too tired to even dowload pics from camera tonight. will do it tomrrow.
pic 1 is our ae red ribbons for Sue.

Night
Wendy

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 15, 2012
1:35 PM

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Thanks for the ID on the Aechmea. I'm pretty sure its 'Red Bands' a it has nowhere near the colour in A. triangularis, and the blooms are a murky brown/purple colour, so I figure that what you get from crossing the yellow in the maculatas flowers.
nev, i am glad you weather is playing nice. I was on the central coast over the weekend and it was miserable and cold on friday, but nice on Saturday. It rained here a bit, but the sun is shining today and it looks like its going to be gorgeous! i already took the dogs for a power walk, and am ready to get into all my jobs today, starting with a bit of weed spraying, before any breeze picks up.
I have just recently put the last of my dynamic lifter ina bucket with water, and am scooping the liquid off the top to water with, with the idea that it will stop the dogs from eating it. I might give everything else a splash with it too, just for a bit of variety in their diet! heh heh.
Wendy, I don't get caught up in other peoples work as often as you, but in the past I used to offer mine and hubbys services, and it just got too much when we have our own big property to look after, but yes, we often feel used because people tend to sit back and let us do the lot, and sometimes, not even a thank you! We are a bit like hermits now, and stick to ourselves, but we would always step in if we saw one of our neighbours in need.
Trish, i love yellow flowers of any kind, and that dendrobium is a first time flowerer for me, so very exciting. I still have orchids that haven't flowered for me yet, so still surprises to come. I am looking after them properly, with good morning sun and fortnightly fertiliser, and they are rewarding me accordingly. I love them.
Shirley, thanks for your kind words. its good to be home and everything is just lovely now. The weekend is forgotten now, and behind me, so onwards and upwards! I put some seeds down from a Tim Plowman, and they are all up, growing like weeds, so it will be interesting to see how they develop.
Hi to Colleen, Jen, Tash and any lurkers looking in.
I have only got a few orchid pics on file, so as a couple of you enjoy orchids, i'll add them today and try to get some new brom photos during the day.
Sue
The first photo is A Vanda orchid from leisaD
The second photo is A Zygopetalum
third is another Dendrobium
forth is another Dendrobium (I think i have the names, just to lazy to go look)



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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 15, 2012
2:09 PM

Post #9306261

You know theres a orchid forum on here dont you? I love it!
We should put a orchid thread under the Australian gardening section so at least we can swap orchids within Australia. Most members on the orchid forum are in America.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 15, 2012
11:35 PM

Post #9306682

Hi everyone – It's a strange overcast sort of day today with a forecast of 34 decrees. Because of the forecast, I thought I'd go and give everything a good damping down and just as I started, it started to “spit” rain. However it soon stopped and now it's decidedly humid.

Shirley – I can't give you any advice about Ques. Tim Ploughman as I've only just acquired my first pup of this plant six months ago so I'm still learning about this one as well. I have read and been told by people who grow it though that it should be left to clump up before taking any pups which agrees with what Wendy says. As for fertilising, I just don't know, but as it looks a bit similar in habit to Billbergias, I'm going to treat mine in the same way as Bill's and see what happens. Is there anyone else on here growing it that can give a bit more cultural advice?

What Wendy says that Olive told Johnny about not taking pups off 'Galactic Warrior' until they get some size is very true and can also be applied to any other brom's, especially Neoregelias. I have noticed during the last five years, that plants of Neo 'Lovely Lady' grown down here and belonging to a fellow grower seem to be getting smaller and smaller when compared to the size of my plants of the same name. Mine are as tall as the mother and with a good root system of their own before I take them off the mother plant, but the other grower says that he takes his pups off when they are just a quarter the size of the mother so he can get a larger quantity of plants, so I guess that has to support what Olive says about the size of pups before removal. Just for the record I was told the very same thing that Olive suggests, a few years ago by a very knowledgeable lady who is a well known and very respected grower in brom circles as well as being an internationally accredited judge. So it looks like to “top growers” are well aware of the benefits of leaving pups on a bit longer.

Trish – It's interesting you commented on Neo 'Running River'; all I can tell you about this plant is that Running River was the name on the tag when I bought it two years ago. I have since found that it is unregistered, (which I should have put after the name when I posted the pic) but there is a “Red River' which looks very similar and which is registered and was bred by Shane Zaghini. I have also since seen a Neo. 'Running Red River' (again unregistered) and which is very similar in both size and colour. All I can think is that they were all seedlings from the same batch of seed and the others were unregistered and just given”pet names” by their owners. Once again I must agree with Derek Butcher when he says, “never trust the info on a name tag”.

Although it's a nice plant, I have to decline your kind offer of the pup from Bill. 'Kyoto' as I have tried to grow it down here before and it just doesn't like the cold winters and marks terribly.

Trish – Swaps are a great way to get a good brom collection without breaking the bank. I know of many growers like myself who have built up extensive collections primarily from just swapping. I've been swapping for years now and still continue to do so, the only thing you have to be careful of is that you don't swap your last plant with someone. I find it a good policy to always keep one plant plus a “backup”; anything above this is available for swapping without the risk of over doing it and swapping your only plant.

It seems that removing dead leaves (de-leafing) from brom's is a never ending job done by all growers. Surprisingly not all growers are aware of the correct “no risk” way to de-leaf plants thus avoiding causing any damage to any “eyes” (new pups forming) behind the dead leaves. The safest way to do it is to cut across the leaf you want to remove and just leave the remaining couple of inches at the bottom. Next step is to cut down the centre of the remaining leaf stub and then tear away each half of the leaf in a direction away from the centre cut. This greatly minimises the chance of any damage to the “eyes” or any emerging new pups.

Trish they're nice plants in your pictures as usual but the plant pictured in pic 4 and named Neo Concentrica Johannis is probably Concentrica x Johannis, what ever it is it really caught my eye; it's a beautiful plant and please put my name on your list for a pup when you have one available.

Wendy -Unfortunately as I said, that pic of Neo Phyllis I posted isn't my plant; it's the one I wanted to get but finished up with the other one (Phyllis OT) instead.

It seems that the story you are telling about the lady next door and her son is identical to what's happening with me and an old friend and his son. Have these people's sons not got any conscience about the way they treat their parents? It seems to me they just want to pretend the “oldies” are not even there, but I'll bet when they eventually pass away these same son's who seem so unwilling to help now will first in line to see what they can get, as I've seen it all before.

As for a pic of Ae. Tocantina, go to the FCBS Photo Index at http://fcbs.org/pictures.htm and look under Aechmea species and there are several pic's there showing flowers as well, so Ian will have something to compare with when his plant flowers, but looking at the pic's I think you're pretty well on the money with your ID Wendy.

Wendy, I think you must have been really tired like you said, because the pic you posted isn't of Ae 'Red Ribbon' it looks more like Sue's plant as Red Ribbon has striping running lengthways on the leaves, just like the plant you sent me.

Sue – When you say you like yellow as an orchid colour I think you're on the right track with the Indian Dendrobiums. A few that come to mind are Fimbriatum, Gibsonii, Chrysotoxum, Densiflorum, Aggregatum, Sulcatum, Flaviflorum and although it's not all yellow, the ever popular Thrysiflorum. I probably shouldn't have said that as this is a brom forum but I just couldn't resist as I got a lot of pleasure from growing these in the past.

Breeindy – That's a good idea of starting a Forum for Australian orchid growers as long as it's not at the expense of our Brom Forum.

That's it for today and although it's tempting, I'm not putting up any orchid pic's, just a few brom pic's off some old files. 1 is Guzmania Lingulata, 2 is Guz. 'Cherry Ripe', 3 is Guz. 'Fire Cracker' (unfortunately not my plant) 4 is Guz. Sanguinea and 5 is Guz 'Scarlet Wonder'

All the best, Nev.

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perke_patch

October 16, 2012
5:26 AM

Post #9306773

Nev did I say red ribbons? must have been tired as I posted red bands. so just to clear it up pic 1 s red ribbons and pc 2 is red bands. hope I didn't confuse anyone.

I'm proud to say I have done something that I was told by a well known grower was not possibly. Ross Little said he has never known ae macroclamys to self set seed but I had noticed 2 black pods on mine and duly collected the and squeezed 1 seed from each pod which I planted on 29 Sept (see pic 3) showing 1 small seedlings and over to the side of the pot is another little bit of green but too small to pick up in pic I think. Today I found another black pod so this time took a pic of the pod in front of the infloresence. (see pic 5 but the camera didn't show how black the pod really was). Maybe it was crossed with something in that garden where everything seems to have set seed but time will tell us if it is self set or crossed by insects or birds. I certainly did not cross it with anything though. The pod today only produced another single seed so I planted it in another small round yoghurt pot and put gladwrap and rubber band round it same as the one I did last month. I am checking for more black pods each day now.

pic 4 is the vareigated guzmanias Johnny picked at Olive's sale on Saturday. unfortunately he took the pics and didn't record the names so I'll have to redo them with names this time. but a group shot will show you his haul. Sorry about the confusing order of pics but some load quicker than others.

Shirley are you still coming to my place tomorrow or Thursday? we'll be home potting our pups and waiting for you. give me a call on home number if you are coming tomorrow otherwise I'll see your message tomorrow night that you are coming on Thursday. Looking forward to a nice chat and Johnny said he will have a group of vriseas picked out for you to choose from.
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 16, 2012
6:05 AM

Post #9306809

Hi everyone, just a very quick look in tonight, I was hoping for an early night as I am wiped out but already it’s after 11:00 pm.

Wendy, we’ll be over on Thursday but I’ll call you tomorrow to confirm. Nice lot of variegated guzmanias Johnny got from Olive’s sale. Looking forward to raiding his vrieseas !!!

Pic is neo Groucho

Bye for now

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 16, 2012
2:25 PM

Post #9307297

good morning.
I had a big day yesterday, but got lots achieved! weed sprayed, mowed, grocery shopped and washed SOME windows. Don't worry, I haven't run out of things to do!
I didn't even notice Wendys blunder with the names. I knew what she meant. your 'Red Ribbons' looks like a good clone Wendy!
Shirley, lucky you getting into Johnnys vrieseas! I hope we get to see pics of what you get.
Bree, an orchid thread sounds great, but I don't think I have enough time or patience to respond to two threads. I'm not all that knowledgeable on Orchids, and also am not ready to breakup any of the plants I have, as I enjoy seeing multiple flower spikes, so that rules me out for trading at this stage.
Nev, did you get the hot temps? It feels a little as though today might be a bit warm, so I've already splashed some water around a bit. i have to take it easy now, as we are on tank water and the predictions are for a dry summer.
Hello to Ian, Trish, Karen, Jen, Tash and Colleen, and to Jean and Chrissy if they are lurking!
gosh, better get a quick pic to post.
BRB
Just a quick picture of the brom tree at the back door.
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 16, 2012
4:42 PM

Post #9307394

Hi everyone – Well the hot day forecast yesterday didn't eventuate as we had plenty of cloud cover all day. Had a bit of bad news though as my trip to the knee surgeon was all in vain. He said he wasn't keen to operate because of my various circulatory problems which would greatly extend the recovery period and increase all of the other risks that go with an operation at my age. So all in all, a bit of a “bummer”.

Wendy – First of all let me say that even the “experts” get it wrong sometimes but Ross is probably one of the most knowledgeable growers I know when it come to species and in this case given what you have just said, I think he's got it right. With your plant of Ae. Macrochlamys even though you didn't have anything to do with the pollination, in my opinion it doesn't have to have been selfed to produce seed. Just the fact that you didn't pollinate the flowers doesn't rule out that insects did, and even if you had nothing else in flower at the time, they can carry pollen for considerable distances to do the job. Only time will tell, so lets wait and see what the flowers are like. At least you are fortunate enough to have got some seed to germinate and in my opinion, this is one of the most interesting aspects of seed growing; i.e. when you don't know for sure who the parents are and have to wait for flowering to get an answer.

You did very well at Olive's sale, the variegated Guzmanias are beautiful eye catching plants which hopefully will multiply quickly and prove to be good sellers. The only variegated Guz. I have any luck with is Guz lingulata variegata minor. This is a small plant only growing to about 6” or so in height but having bright scarlet flowers and also being a prolific “pupper”. Even this though does sometimes suffer a bit of cold damage but nothing as bad as it's big sister, Guz lingulata variegata major. I think Guzmanias are beautiful plants and with their very long lasting flowers (in some cases six months plus) can also be brought into the home when flowering thus saving the expense of buying cut flowers.

Shirley - That's a nice plant of Neo. 'Groucho' you have there and another example of Chester Skotak's fabulous creations. In this case he used the unlikely combination of Neo. (Carolinae variegated x Hannibal Lector) as the seed parent and Neo 'Tiger Cub' as the pollen parent. This bloke's amazing, and always turning out something different and I've just been privileged to see some pic's of his latest miniature Guzmania creations.

Sue – The hot day forecast for yesterday didn't eventuate fortunately and today is considerably cooler so as soon as I've finished this it's off out into the back yard for a bit more work on the brom's in the garden.

I hope everyone who isn't here today are all well and their absence isn't due to illness, anyway a big cheerio to you all.

That's it for today, I've run out of pic's of my plants so the pic's I'm showing today are file pic's from various other growers.1 is Ae Cylindrata, 2 is Ques. 'Tim Ploughman' variegated, 3 is the biggest colony of Neo Compacta I have ever seen. It is growing on a tree near the entrance to Paronella Park in North Queensland (too bad it wasn't in flower at the time). Pic 4 is Neo 'Marble Throat' which has been used as a parent for many of the beautiful marble throated types including the one in Pic 5 which is a colourful new hybrid from a New Zealand breeder.

See many more of these Marble Throated types at:
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?fields=Parents&id=5659&search=marble throat

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

October 17, 2012
4:00 AM

Post #9307685

Hi all. Another dry day, work as usual and a bit of time to look around my plants. Spring has sprung and everything seems to be growing. I have been watching a few flowers developing and questioning myself which ones do I really want to collect seed from. If it is not common then it is a definate. I returned the visit of a member and collected a couple more plants, the old swap-a-roo. She and a friend of hers have done a bit of hybridising. I hope to learn more from her so that I too can pass on further information.
I downloaded information from the glossary of terms for brom identification, now all I have to do is learn what they mean. There have been some fantastic piccies shown and I sure can relate to Trish, i think, I want them all.
Have a good one.
ian
pic 1 Ae Pectinata flower just rising
Pic 2 N zulu x marble throat
Pic 3 N Caroline x perfection
Pic 4 Grace USA x conchardon
Pic 5Ae NOID had red flowers and seed pods are black

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perke_patch

October 17, 2012
5:14 AM

Post #9307724

Hi everyone.
Interested that you mentioned guz lingulata variegated minor Nev as I have an envelope full of seed that I collected recently. The whole top of the dead flower was one big ball of fluff so I had to wrap it up and break it off. I put it all into a plastic cup until I had time to pick all the seed out of all the bits of pods and stems. If anyone wants to try some lingulata seedlings I'll happily share this seed as I'm not planning on putting down any more guz seed atm.

Seems we've had a visitor in our yard helping themselves again. I am dreading telling Shirley that when we went to get her vr megan today to put with the other vriseas we promised her the 2 pups of this that Johnny had growing in the front yard have BOTH disappeared. Just empty spots where they should be. one day last week we came home to find the fridge downstairs wide open. there were packets of seed on the floor but we just thought they had fallen off the door when it came open. we didn't think any more about it and haven't even gone through the seed to see if we can id any missing (highly unlikely as we wouldn't know what is in there), Now adding that to the missing Megans and we had a good look around. we found several other blank spots in the front yeard where we think there should have been a pot of something but we can't be 100% sure. Anyway we have a couple of Megans with pups on them so we might be able to offer a bare rooted pup straight off the mother plant. Johnny will have a selection for Shirley to choose from tomorrow.

Nev I realise that the ants or birds have probably pollinated the macroclamys but I am keen to see what we get out of it. pity the pods are only producing a single seed. it will take me a while to get a good supply of little plants. Sue I wish I had time and energy to wash windows but I'm flat out finding time to sweep and mop the floors and hang the washing up. I always go down and put it on as early as possible to get it done before the panels start exporting power but I often then don't remember to hang it out until lunch time or later. Once I get into the potting I forget time.

Did everyone hear about the death of Harry Luther today in Singapore? it has been confirmed by Cathcarts as true. he had a brain hemorrhage (sorry if spelled wrong) and died (I think in hospital as first report was that he was in hospital after hemorrhage)

Pic 1 is an Alan Freeman hybrid called Burgundy night but I think it is another of his unregistered neos.
Pic 2 is along the shelf of neos in front yard showing the brilliant colour
Pic3 is another Alan Freeman hybrid simply named AFRN5

Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 17, 2012
5:26 AM

Post #9307728

Hi everyone,

Lots of great pics as usual, so much colour and so much beauty. I get so much enjoyment from my broms and often wonder how come it took me so long to discover them. I wish I had started collecting them years ago.

Sue, wish I had your energy … do you ever stop?

Wow Nev, love the Ques Tim Plowman variegated, wouldn’t I love one of those.

Wendy, we’ll see you tomorrow.

Pics are …

Most of you will probably know straight off, if not, you’ll have to enlarge the pics to find out.

Bye for now, Shirley

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 17, 2012
5:35 AM

Post #9307738

Hi Wendy, we obviously posted at the same time.

WHAT ... SOMEONE STOLE MY VR MEGAN !!! What a low life, I've been waiting months for that one and was so looking forward to picking it up.

Oh well, what can you do ... perhaps you should get a meaner dog, Max is too friendly, guess he must be feeling better or he might have gotten agro.

Anyway, see you tomorrow, I'm off to bed now (and sobbing). Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 17, 2012
11:14 PM

Post #9308567

Hi everyone – Just for a change I spent a day over at the Illawarra Light Railway Museum helping to get the MSDS files up to date. Not as good as being in the garden, but a job that had to be done and no one else who knew what was required.

Ian – Have you flowered the Ae Pectinata before? I have and really thought it was a bit of a disappointment flower wise as I much rather preferred the coloured leaves. Unless I intend to hybridise with it, I usually just cut off the flower spike now before it's mature and that way I can get a few more pups more quickly.

It looks like the 'Zulu' genes are stronger than those of 'Marble Throat' as there doesn't appear to be any marbling in the plant pictured. As for the NOID in your last pic, I can't help you with a name but judging by the number of seed pods it could well be a selfer and possibly worth trying a few just to see what turns up.

Wendy – I've grown Guz lingulata variegated Minor from seed in the past. They had a good germination rate but oh so slow to grow down here. Should grow much quicker up in your warmer climate and certainly well worth having in any collection. So come on all of you brom seed growers, take Wendy up on her offer and let's see how you go.

It always leaves a bad taste in your mouth when some “low life” pinches plants out of your garden doesn't it? I had quite a few taken over a period of a couple of years so now I only have the prickly Ae. Recurvata right out the front as a deterrent and they even pinched a couple of them as well, so maybe I'll just go back to growing grass out there.

Wendy do you know if its usual for Ae. Macrochlamys to just produce one or two seeds per pod, it certainly seems different to other Aechmeas and the just may well turn out to be something special, so worth a try anyway.

That's very sad news about Harry Luther's passing, and for anyone who didn't know of Harry's work, he spent countless years investigating and identifying bromeliads at the Marie Selby Botanical Gardens Research Centre at Saratosa Florida. This work was Harry's life and he continually fielded questions from all over the world but unfortunately, like so many others before and since, he recently fell victim to restructuring and the “bean counters” in their quest to save more and more dollars. In the end his position was no more and he left there and took up a position in Singapore doing a similar type of work. My personal belief is that Harry's separation from his beloved Selby Gardens was very much a traumatic experience and when he left I think it affected Harry much more than people think as that place was really his life. He does leave a magnificent legacy though and one that all brom growers should be grateful for, but the question is, now that Harry's gone, who is knowledgeable enough to fill his shoes.

Great pic's Wendy but you're twisting my neck again with Pic 2. Pic's 1 and 3 clearly show just what great plants Allan Freeman has given us; great shape and great colour. Just for the record, he used concentrica quite a lot in his breeding programme as well. Please drop me a line when you get a spare pup of AFRN5 I'd really like to add it to my collection.

Shirley – I too often wonder why I didn't start growing brom's earlier instead of growing orchids and breeding birds, although I did enjoy both hobbies at the time. Sorry to hear you got your 'Megan' “nicked”, what a bummer. Don't blame Max though as we mustn't forget he's still convalescing after his operation.

Great pic's also; Lovely Lady is a winner in anyone's collection as are so many of her brothers and sisters from the 'Aussie Dream' stable of Bob Larnach. I'm not familiar with 'Goldilocks' but it's an attractive plant as well and should be real show piece when fully mature.

Well that's about it for today, sorry but no pic's today, I'll have to get the old camera working again.

All the best, Nev.
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

October 18, 2012
12:34 AM

Post #9308577

Hi everyone. Nearly back to old self now, just have to watch how I do things and don't lift anything too heavy. Have a new lot of broms to show compliments of Nev. Beautiful plants and always look great. Have heaps of pups of my own to deal with shortly and the brugs are getting bigger every week and have had to pot up seedlings from them. The baby broms still are very small so probably wont have many of them to pot up. Do you think that it will be too hot to leave the broms on the reo up near the roof during summer? I thought that maybe I'd take the top two rows down. What do you think? I have a pic of the new broms to put up so will say good night. Colleen

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ianperry

October 18, 2012
3:54 AM

Post #9308622

Hi all, just a quick one tonight, not feeling really tops. Just a bit of vertigo and I don't know why.
Nev, I have not tried to flower Ae Pectinata before. I will let it flower this time just to see what happens and also for my files showing me the developement of certain plants, stage by stage. This could also help me in identifing individual plants at different stages. I know there are other considerations like light, fertiliser and water as well as climate and the enviroment. I am going to try seeds from that Ae last nights piccie, I have been watching it for a couple of weeks.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 N conchardon x absolute perfection
Pic 2 Ae Noid looks like a narrow leaf JCSuperstar.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 18, 2012
1:00 PM

Post #9309034

Hi Colleen and Ian – where have all the others gone? I expect they are all making the most of the good weather and tending their brom's. A big “Get Well Soon” to anyone on the sick list and I hope you're soon feeling better and up to posting again soon.

Colleen – It looks like the last lot of plants I sent travelled well and they're all looking very comfortable in their new home. Regarding your plants hanging near the top of the mesh; all I can say is that any plants I have hanging just below the roof, stay there all the year around without any problems as I usually position them in their hanging position during the short days of winter so they are acclimatised by the time the hot weather arrives. After that initial year, they just stay there all the time. I don't know how your summer temp's compare with ours, but if you are concerned you could also do what our members in Far North Queensland do and put another layer of shade cloth over that section (in your case just a narrow strip should do the trick) and take it down again once the summer heat has finished, or as you say, just drop them down a bit lower.

Ian – Just a bit of vertigo? You should find out what's causing this and don't just dismiss it. It can have very serious consequences if it comes on you whilst driving or while you are up a ladder or using some sort of dangerous portable tool such as a circular saw. Two of the most common causes are a sudden drop in blood pressure or unstable or low blood sugar levels such as people with diabetes experience. Both can be checked with simple tests at you GP's and treated accordingly.

It will be interesting to see what those seeds turn up when they eventually mature. Did you see that plant when it was in flower or is it one you bought post flowering? A pic of the flowers could certainly point the finger at what you may get from the seedlings and it seems to me it may just have a bit of Ae gamosepala in it as the inflorescence is similar and this seems to cross breed with pretty well anything. As it's very commonly grown, it's pollen is very easily transmitted by insects and small birds such as Sun Birds and Honey Eaters.

As for the plant in your last pic, I have to agree, it does look very much like 'J C Super Star' which needs good light to maintain the nice colours in the banding.

Well, that's it from me for today and I'll finish with a few more old file pic's I dug up.
1 is Ae Fasciata variegata, 2 is Neo. 'George's Prince', 3 is Nid. 'Madonna', 4 is Neo 'Powder Puff' and 5 is Vr. Hieroglyphica.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 18, 2012
1:02 PM

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It looks like we posted at the same time, nev.
Good morning. I think I missed a day! It was a scorcher on Wednesday, and yesterday was overcast and a lovely temperature. It looks like we had one drop of rain overnight, but every bit counts in the tank...even condensation!
I had a look around big W yesterday. there were three Neos. (N. 'Dantes Peak', N. 'Purple Star' and N. 'Sand grouper'), from the Olive Branch. They had $12 written on the tags, and $15 written on the pots! Pity they weren't more appealing to me, or I could have got them for the twelve dollars. Other than that, there was an assortment of undersized guzmanias and some seedling Vriesea splenreits for $11! I went home with a Phaleonopsis orchid instead, which has about 20 open flowers and about 50 buds yet to open. It has two flower spikes that are branched. Its the most flowers i have ever seen on one, and they were only $19.95 compared to $26 at bunnings. I think the orchids might soon take over?
Wendy, thats just awful that someone has come into your yard and knicked stuff. I know its happened in the past too. A bit of razor wire along the top of the fence might slow them down a bit, and a few Bromelia plants along the outside might stop them even approaching. I hope you can find a way of keeping the 'so and so's' out.
Nev, I love the pic of Quesnelia 'Tim Plowman' variegata. Does it have a registered Name? I also like the marble throat hybrid. They make for interesting and tough plants. I am glad you got the cooler weather instead, much nicer when playing in the garden. So whats the next step for your knee? Or is it a case of 'Get used to it,Buddy'? I hope there is good answer, or failing that, some very good medication to keep you pain free.
Ian, I am glad you are keeping your Aechmea pectinata flower. I haven't flowered mine yet, but it is going little pink on the leaves. I made the mistake of moving it about two years ago, just as it as starting to colour, and it went back to green and sulked. I'm not game to move it at all now, and a couple of Phildendron leaves have created quite a bit of shade for it. I am tempted to cut them back so i can get a better view, but wonder if he extra light will be enough to make it sulk again? I look forward to seeing your photos as it progresses.
Colleen, I am pleased you are feeling on the mend, although with all the things that need potting,how will you avoid the heavy lifting?Your new babies look very nice, and as for your question regarding moving the pots from the Reo bar, it might be a good idea, or if you can manage/afford it, another piece of shade cloth through summer is also an option. I am of the opinion that a plant losing its colour is much better than a plant with burned leaves!
Shirley, don't cry! It will be okay. Johnny and Wendy will make sure you go home with something special. (patting you on the back) there there! The nasty bromeliad burglar will get bad karma and get him/herself spiked on an Aechmea bracteata or something similar. The two plants you posted are gorgeous, by the way.
Trish, i forgot to comment on your Noid in the previous post. I wondered if it could be Neo. 'Midnight'? also know as 'Voodoo' I believe? If it is,just play around with positioning until you get the colour right, as it goes a deep black in the right light, or greenish in the wrong. It is a prolific pupper, in my opinion, so you should have plenty of pups to try in different positions.
I will leave you with a pic of my new orchid, as I am still in my PJs, and won't risk being seen outside in them, taking photos. What would the neighbours say? I have pods coming on the Billbergias, and also a few more flowers, so will take some snaps today.
Sue

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 19, 2012
2:25 AM

Post #9309508

Hi everyone, another hot day and still no rain.

Nev, as you say, it is a shame when you can’t leave things around your home and garden without someone nicking it. Wendy and Johnny lost several plants and not the first time either. And I wasn’t really blaming Max, he’s a lovely old fella but these crooks deserve to be confronted by a ‘savage’. By the way, your Ae Fasciata variegate is a beautiful plant.

Colleen, so good to hear you’re getting back to your old self and good to see you back on the forum.

Ian, hope you are feeling better now.

Sue, thanks for consoling me and you were right, I certainly did go home with something special from Wendy and Johnny’s. Some really beautiful vrieseas, a gorgeous Vr Forrest (which was very high on my wish list), a Dillings Black Beauty, a Fosteriana Red Dragon, a Snows of Mauna Kea, an Eva Charlotte, a Fosteriana x Platynema and even a Megan which Johnny removed from its’ mum so I could have one. Oh, and a neo Golden Chalice too. I did very well indeed and am so pleased with my haul. I will post a couple of pics tonight and for the next couple of nights too.

Wendy and Johnny, thanks again for a lovely morning. We enjoyed the cuppa and the chat and love the vrieseas. Thanks too for the apron, the seeds and ‘how to grow’ advice … all very much appreciated. And maybe you should try Sue’s suggestion of a bit of razor wire to stop 'would be' brom thieves in their tracks.

Anyway, I’m posting early tonight for a change but must go now and organise a few things. Have a good weekend everyone.

Shirley


pic 1 is Vr Forrest pic 2 is Vr Dillings Black Beauty

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ianperry

October 19, 2012
2:34 AM

Post #9309511

Hi all, I came home from work and looked around my plants, took a few piccies and watered my seedlings. I also collected seed from Bil Catherine Wilson and Hallejuh as well as a til sounds like chardeona, i know that is incorrect name but it tells a story. I see a couple of comments as to why we took so long to get into growing broms.
I came from Dalby to Mackay to grow broms and get a drug and alcohol rehab going. The d&a rehab got first preference due to finances and when it was established I got sidetracked into fish, still got a couple but i have not the time or interest in them. I am not replacing them as they keel over. i may use some of the tanks for seed raising though.In 2011 I started collecting brom reasonably seriously, I think July i joined a local brom group and started to learn, i still call myself a beginner. This is to be my retirement activity, I just hope I can still fund it then

Nev that jc superstar look a like is being posted again tonight with another that I have been told is JC Superstar. The one on the right is supposedly the real deal. I do have a lot of gameosepala here and Sun birds. I think I bought it post flowering but it still has the spike on dried up.Thats about it for me tonight.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Aussie dream" rosie"
Pic 2 JC Superstar on right.
Pic 3 N The duke. a pup in July
Pic 4 Ae Prieto
Pic 5 Ae tornado

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 19, 2012
5:01 AM

Post #9309539

Hi Everyone!

Hope you are all well and have been hanging out for the weekend to catch-up with you all to see what you guys have been up to and by the looks of things everyone is keeping very busy as usual.

Yeah, another week of work over and done with and now time to enjoy the weekend. I have another six vrieseas to pot up tomorrow and I want to start my new landscaping project, nothing major just want to take over some lawn area (hubby ok with this less to mow lol) to make new beds for broms so I thought if I do bit on the weekends then sooner or later I will get one area done and have a nice place for some of my broms to live. Landscaping will not be too exciting just some landscaping brick and gravel the area in to bury my brom puts in. I wanted bark but Joe is worried about termites and pests? Gravel gets harsh on my hands so I will have to invest in a sturdy pair of gardening gloves and a better shovel to shovel all of the gavel into the beds.

During the week I think I may have identified one of the NOID broms I posted a thread back on the 13 October (Pic No. 2). I think it is Neo Muscat as I come across a very similar picture on http://www.bromeliad.org.au under Neo Cultivars (listing 157 – last photo) unknown parentage. Anyway I have re-attached my pic to see what everyone else thinks? The other photos listed on this website did not look like this brom only the very last photo.

Hi Sue, your orchids look amazing, so beautiful and healthy. I make sure I open up all your pics for Joe to see as he really enjoys seeing what everyone else is growing and the different types out there. Thanks so very much for sharing such beautiful pics for us all to enjoy.

Sue thanks for trying to identify my Neo NOID that you think maybe Midnight or Voodoo. I did write Voodoo on its label with a question mark as I was not 100% sure, but if I see it pupping heaps thanks yes I will definitely try placing in different light situations to see the difference outcomes with its colour. I was pleased when I purchase it because I thought it might have been Voodoo and only paid $5 for it at a yard sale.

Sue luved the pic of your brom tree, I only have a couple of broms hanging in baskets in some of our fruit trees, I will have to think of handing some in our big shady palm out in the front garden for some of the climbing broms just to colour up and contrast with all that green, but first I will have to remove some of the palm fronds just to let a bit more light into the centre of the palm tree and then I will have an area I can work with and the broms will be able to get better airflow, light etc.

H Nev, thanks for info regarding Running River, I have Red River and Pink River which I like very much because of how much colour is going on all at the same time, it is like a kaleidoscope of colour which really captures my interest because the more colour I see in a brom the more I fall in luv with it.

Nev, absolutely as soon as I have a spare pup of Neo Concentrica x Johannis I will put one aside for you, or if I come across another plant in my travels by all means I will send one to you. I am really looking forward to when all my Neo’s really start pupping then look out It is going to be very interesting me running around the yard like a chook with its head cut off separating and potting up the pups lol. My husband Joe thinks the pups will come mostly all at the same time and I tend to agree with him and I am pretty excited about what’s just around the corner. Joe is going to rig up an irrigation system into our back fence line so that I can hang my pups in their pots in staggered rows, this fence fine is a great area because it is shaded by all the paperbark gum trees and at least will free up other areas of our yard for more established broms.

Nev, when I was talking about de-leafing I was actually talking about removing gum leaves from my broms, sorry for confusing matters lol, but thanks for the helpful advice when actually removing old leaves off broms. Yeah, one of the broms I was removing gum leaves from the centre near the flower and realised that the gum leaf I was tugging on trying to remove from the centre of the brom was actually part of the brom flower that has leaf like petals coming off the flower, it was the first time I had seen this brom flower lol.

Nev great pic of Vr. Hieroglyphica, this vriesea I have at home and it still takes my breath away whenever I walk past it in the garden but it has a lot of growing to do still as I purchased it from Bunning’s about a year ago for $25 and it was very sunburnt and needed rescuing so I got it home and put it in a nice shady spot, trimmed damaged leaves and it has been doing great ever since. I liked it that much I purchased a small pup for $5 six months ago and it has doubled in size and lives in our entertainment area happily amongst the larger vrieseas. Glad also to see what my George’s Prince is going to turn out like seeing your recent picture.

Hi Wendy, amazing those two little seeds that have germinated from those pods, how great you must feel that they self-set seed – amazing what nature can do. Wendy your variegated guzmanias are all very beautiful, so much nicer than the stock standard type.

Hi Shirley, great pic of Neo Groucho what a great plant, I too have one and adore its beautiful markings and how tough it is. Shirley, Neo Goldilocks is cute, I wonder what she is going to colour up like when she is all grown up lol? Shirley also luved your Vr. Forrest and Vr. Dillings Black Beauty, I will have to get me one of the Vr. Dillings Black Beauty – markings are magnificent.

Hi Colleen, glad to hear you are feeling much better. I luv all your brom pics. Sounds like you are keeping yourself very busy with your new broms and all the pups you are going to pot up. How are the seeds you potted going, mine have not germinated yet? I am trying to be patient and am hoping that the seeds I purchase were not too old; patience is a virtue as they say, lucky for me I consider myself a very patient person except for when people jump ahead of you when you are waiting in a line to buy something, that’s one of my pet hates lol.

Hi Ian, great pics of Neo Aussie Dream “rosie” which appear to be going into flower and JC Superstar is beautiful. I too have Neo Duke and it has grown heaps since I got it as a pup around July also, it is a really nice tough Neo and I plan to get more of these to put around the yard because they are so hardy and have such touch leaves. Every time I visit this one in the garden I think of John Wayne and it brings back childhood memories of when I wanted to marry him and watched all his movies over and over again lol.

Hi Bree, Karen, Jen, Tash, Chrissy – how are you guys, hope you are all well we miss hearing from you all 

Anyway time to put the kettle on as I am really hanging out for one.

Take care and speak to you all soon I hope. Have a great weekend and Happy Gardening!

Pic 1 Neo NOID – possibly Neo Muscat per info mentioned above?
Pic 2 Neo Gaspacho (gift from Bree)
Pic 3 Neo Meyendorffii Minor
Pic 4 Neo Kings Ransom
Pic 5 Vr. Angela F2

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 19, 2012
5:14 AM

Post #9309547

Hi

Pics got mixed up???

Pic 1 Neo Gaspacho (gift from Bree)
Pic 2 Neo Meyendorffii Minor
Pic 3 Neo NOID - posibbly Neo Muscat per info under my previous thread
Pic 4 Neo Kings Ransom
Pic 5 Vr. Angela F2

Catch you all later!

Trish
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

October 19, 2012
5:24 AM

Post #9309551

Hi all. Just popping in to say goodnight. Not too much done today. The weather is starting to warm up so the colours will all start coming into the broms. My brom seedlings still aren't growing very fast but they're still alive so I suppose that's a bonus. Just have to be patient. Beautiful pics everyone. See you all tomorrow. Colleen. ps Nev here's one of your seedlings.

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perke_patch

October 19, 2012
6:07 AM

Post #9309584

Hi everyone.
Boy I missed last night and lots of reading to catch up tonight. Unfortunately this time we think the person came in our front gate while we weren't home so razor wire wouldn't have stopped them. we did come home one day last week to find the fridge door downstairs wide open. There was a lid from a takeaway container on the floor and some packets of seed also. the containers are on the door of the fridge and full of packets of seed. we thought it strange that firstly the fridge door could come open and secondly that the lid would come off the containers of seed and then some packets fall out onto the floor. But we didnt' really think much of it till we noticed that the 2 particular plants were gone. That's when we start to notice other empty spots and start putting 2 + 2 together. Unfortunately when we are waiting for the post man to leave us an order we can't lock the gate. we do have a padlock and use it sometimes but if we are only popping down to the supermarket or over to bunnings we don't bother putting it on. we'll have to start again for a while.

Shirley you left your pod of vr pink nova seed on the table. I put it back into the container. If you want it I can post it to you. Maybe I'll add some of those guz lingulata seeds for you to try. The worst you could do is have a nice garden of different coloured mini guzmanias in the yard in a couple years. I have some growing now and did pot up some of the bigger ones luckily as the rest of the tray got some of those little bugs in it and the seedlings have all fallen over with no roots to hold them upright. I might just scrap the rest and sow some more. now I know what those little bugs are doing I will dump that lot of mix instead of reuse it. I have a few trays with bugs in them. Is there something you can spray to kill those little things Nev or Sue???

Shirley so glad you like all your new plants especially the vriseas. Colleen I love the pic of your new ones. I was drawn to the little billbergia down the bottom. looks like you will get some nice colour in that one and I look forward to seeing future pics of that one. A friend of our brought round 3 pots of new billbergias he got recently with multiple tubes in each pot. We took a pup off each one for me and I found some of mine with spare tubes for him to take home also. I also got home the other day to find a box from Jen with pups of the billbergias she got with multiple pups. I'll have to catch up with her and share some of mine with her. I did buy a hectia with multiple plants in the pot so have one ready for Jen. The one at Olive's had a lovely purple flower spray so I had to buy a pot.

As Ian and someone else said we wish we had found broms a lot sooner too. I only got into them when I had to give up work to look after Johnny and help him with his broms. I didn't even know how to tell a neo from a vrisea or aechmea and when I asked him instead of explaining it he said to me to read a book so I did. buy the time I had read it from cover to cover and studied all the pics I was hooked and wanted so many of them. we really started collecting then. I don't know how Johnny managed when he went almost blind there for a while. He even went partially colour blind too so he would have missed a lot of the colour. I guess now that he has it all back again he can really appreciate what he lost for a while. Amazing what the docs can do these days. But as we've said we wish we had found broms when our kids were young. We wouldn't have had the money to buy too many new ones but if we had got into the seeds back then we would have had some very nice new hybrids by now.

I keep looking at my billbergias hoping to find some more seed pods developing but so far nothing promising happening. I think they may have all flowered by now so maybe I'll have to wait till next year for some more. I'm hoping the quesnelia lieboniana might be fattening up some pods and if so I will certainly give them a try. we have more aechmeas coming into flower now so I'll keep my fingers crossed on some seed pods there.

To answer someone's question I don't know anything about ae Macfoster (or macroclamys as we had been calling it). I've been told it doesn't self set seed so maybe the insects have crossed it for me. there were certainly lots of others things flowering in the same garden at the time including androlepsis skineri and blanchetianas to name just 2. so we will grow these few seeds on and see what we get. I'm still watching and hoping some more pods turn black so I can get more seed but one at a time will be a slow process. I'll be grateful for each and every one of them as I squeeze them out.

I don't think I've taken any more pics so I think I'll call it a night. Hi to anyone I didn't mention including Trish, Ian, Nev, Sue, Jen, Colleen and any other lurkers. hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Night
Wendy
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 19, 2012
12:54 PM

Post #9309857

good morning. its a nice cool morning compared to yesterdays heat!
Wendy, can't your postie leave your packages at the local P.O? I would think that would be a better option so that you can padlock the gate. What is sad, is that its a fellow bromeliad person doing the knicking, and here was i thinking we were an honest bunch. Theres always one bad egg in the clutch!
As for the fungus gnat question, the best method would be prevention. I had sterilised my peat in the microwave, and used alginox to prevent algae, but as soon as i cracked the lid to let a bit of air in, the bugs got in. I have my suspicions that it is the fine hair from the seed that is growing the fungus? As I don't seem to get the bugs in the Neo or Aechmea trays. I have tried fly spray (on seedlings that are not special) and yates rose shield, which has a fungicide and pesticide, and neither treatment worked, so I have painstakingly pricked out all the affected seedlings into new mix (sifted potting mix) and they are doing much better.
I have found a few pods forming on my Bilbergias that I tickled last month, so am watching them eagerly. Will they change colour, or fatten up to the point where they have no wrinkles?
Colleen, I guess we have no option but to patiently wait for your photos! The seedling from nev has some good colour. Did you get a shade house extension? I remember you mentioning one, but wasn't sure that you went ahead with it?
Trish, if your seeds were from a vriesea or guzmania (silky hairs like a dandelion) they can take a month to germinate. lucky you have patience eh? Also, in one year, you will only have about 5-10mm high plants! So sit back and have a cuppa while you wait! heh heh
your landscaping sounds exciting. i love to see new gardens! I have started putting alot of my broms into the gardens now, but only if they have protection from the gum trees. I planted bangalow palms and tree ferns, which catch the gum branches before they hit the plants, and they provide good midday shade while they are low. As they get higher, I plant cordylines and other shrubs to provide a bit of shade also,
I have been tying staghorns ferns, orchid, tillandsias and bromeliads to the palm trunks as they get to eye level (when the fronds fall off) and am loving the effect.
Ian, good on you for starting the rehab. I'm sure alot of people have appreciated the effort. I thought about the fish tanks, and remembered reading in another forum where a grower floated his seed containers in a couple of inches of water in the fish tank, keeping it at a constant temperature, He had very good results. Maybe this could work for you?
Shirley, I think you should be consoling me! I'm all sad because I want your plants! boo hoo. tee hee. What a haul you have! I look forward to seeing the rest.
Morning to Nev, Karen, Jen and any lurkers out there.
photo one is B. 'Catherine Wilson' with pods
photo two B. 'Estrella' with ONE pod
Photo three is the flower on a Billbergia labelled as 'Red Form'
Photo four is Aechmea nudicaulis 'Silver streak'
Photo five is for Trishes hubby, its SLC Jewel Box 'Dark Waters', which is darker red than in the photo
Sue

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

October 19, 2012
5:37 PM

Post #9310061

Good morning everyone. Lovely day here with maybe the chance of a storm later so fingers-crossed. The boys are out this morning so it's great to just sit down with a cuppa and catch up with all the news.
Sue, I'm like you with my Billbergias. I've got one lone pod on a Moon Tiger crossed with sanderiana (which I've been told isn't a great parent plant) and I poke it and feel it everyday. Think I've driven Wendy mad with "Is it ready yet?". She has been endlessly patient with advice that it needs to be soft and should come off very easily. I wish you'd stop posting photos of gorgeous orchids Sue. They are very tempting and I've already got my hands full with broms. Wish I'd had a longer visit at your place. Feel like I missed so much because you've got so many lovely things to see. Are your Pink Nova seeds up yet?
Wendy, that's a real pain about your thieves. Some people are so brazen to go into your yard in the day. How is Max. He was a bit glum when I dropped off the Billies last week and didn't even come to say hello. I guess he must have days like us when he thinks that getting old isn't much fun. I agree Wendy that I sometimes wish I'd got into broms much earlier but better late than never. Eh?
Good to see you're on the mend Colleen. You are inspiring to be looking after little ones.Don't know how you do it.
You have some lovely broms Trish. The Muscat (?) is particularly attractive. Hope you get a lot done in tour garden extension before it gets too hot.
Ian, you keep amazing me with your variety of broms. I love to see ones that aren't very common and you seem to have plenty of them. Like you I plan to get into my broms more when I retire, hopefully sooner rather than later, and especially growing from seed. I would love to hybridise a Bill. or Vriesea that was good enough to register. JC Superstar is one of my Ae. because it is so tough and a real stand-out in the garden. Haven't had a flower yet, just pups.
Shirley, you must have really sweet-talked Johnny to get him to part with so many lovely Vrieseas. What a great haul. The Forrest and Dillings have such contrasting colours that they look good together. Would love to get out to your place for a peek one day.
Lovely photos Nev. I'm still waiting for my Madonna to flower and also the variegated Nid. Miranda. I almost sent you a message a couple of days ago because someone on the Brom Forum asked for info on how to grow Vrieseas from seed. The experts came back with so much advice about thermometers and glass tanks etc. that I felt very sorry for the questioner. I would never have tried if I had just read that. Think they might need a copy of your booklet. Admittedly it was in NZ but surely it can't be that hard in Summer. Sue?
Guess I can't sit here all day so I'd better make a move. Photos are 1. new Bill. Caprice 2. Vriesea Opus 3. Vr. Dilling's Black Beauty 4. Aechmea Fantasy 5. Neo Cruenta Silver
Have a great Brom day. Jen

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 19, 2012
9:07 PM

Post #9310213

Hi everyone – Well another nice sunny day yesterday and a little bit more achieved in the garden. Everything's really starting to “take off” now with a bit of sun after the recent rain and you can almost hear the grass growing. Wow what a lot of reading to do, so I'd better get a wriggle on.

Sue – I don't know of the other two Neo's you mentioned but Purple Star is a favourite of mine and grows into a beautiful plant in good light and I think $12 is a very reasonable price for it. I wish we got things for sale like that down here. It seems all we get access to are the same old Guzmania and Vriesea commercial hybrids at Bunnings' inflated prices of $26 each.

I think some of the Phalaenopsis available today are extremely good value. I always kept away from them when I grew orchids many years ago as it was a well know fact at that time you needed a heated glasshouse with controlled humidity to grow them really well. These days as a result of hybridising and selective breeding they can be grown in the home. My daughter bought my wife a nice white one for the Mother's Day before last and the flowers lasted for months. No sooner had the first ones started to die when a small new spike emerged from the side of the original one. Eventually it flowered again and lasted just as long. The same thing happened again as the flowers were finishing a new spike emerged from the old one. This developed flowers again and it was still in flower last Mother's Day. Here it is now four months later and the first flower is just starting to die off and once again another secondary (or is that fourthery) flower spike is starting. I had read in the past about secondary flower spikes which it was said always had less flowers than the primary one, but in our case the first one had seven (four and a quarter inch) white flowers, the second one had the same and the third one had eight, so that disproves that theory; also it was said that each consecutive lot of flowers were smaller than the previous ones, well I've found that to be a “furphy” as well, as the last lot of flowers were also four and a quarter inches across, the same as the first lot. Of cause the fact that I've been feeding it each two weeks with Manutec "Bloom Booster" may have something to do with it also, but it's certainly been good value when compared with the cost of a bunch of flowers and the length of time they last.

Sue the variegated Quesnelia Tim Poughman pic that I posted was just one I got from one of the forums. I think it was a sport, as that was the topic on the forum at that time and I've checked the BCR and it still hasn't been registered, so I would imagine that the owner is waiting to see if it is stable before registering it.

You're pretty well on the money about my knees when you say “Get used to it,Buddy” , basically I need two knee replacements but due to other medical problems I can't have them done, so I guess I just have to grin and bear it.

Sue if what you did to your Ae Pectinata made it “sulk”, what I've just done to mine during the tidy up will put it into a coma! My daughter's dog must have knocked the pot over on one of his lizard hunts through the brom's and as everything was so overgrown I didn't notice it. Consequently all of the three new pups were growing out of the pot at a weird angle and no matter what position I put the pot in it still looked “crook”; so I just left it and hope they will eventually straighten themselves out. I guess that's the price I pay for not looking more closely at my plants.

I must say I never thought about Trish's plant being a Neo. 'Voodoo' or 'Midnight' as the spots of water on it make it more difficult to identify than if it was kept dry. Although when I look closer, I've never seen one with as much green, but then I grow mine in a shady corner of the shade house, and even the ones that get a little more light still only have little flecks of green through the leaves so it's quite possible if it was grown in brighter light even still, it could have that amount of green as depicted in the picture.

Shirley – It seems like you're building up quite a collection also and it won't be long before we hear of you starting a new project to provide more brom accommodation. You are getting some really nice Vrieseas though, and they will certainly be something to look forward to as long as Wendy's “Brom Thief” doesn't pay you a visit also.

Ian – Looking at the pic. of your JC Superstar, I still think the other plant is JC Superstar as well. Anyway when they both flower we will know for sure.

As for your empty aquariums, do you know they make a fantastic mini-hothouse for Cryptanthus and some of the smaller growing brom's? I had a friend who had quite a large built-in aquarium and when his fish died he used it for small growing brom's and other plants and it really looked fantastic. I think I have a pic somewhere and if I can find it I'll post it.

Trish – Yes Trish, Joe's right about the termites and their love of bark mulch, so if you are in an area where termites are a problem, best to stay away from it or if you do use it, keep it a good distance away from the house.

Thanks for offering to save me a pup from Neo Concentrica x Johannis, I really appreciate it and you must let me know what you would like in return.

Regarding hanging plants on your fence, just be careful that it isn't made of CCA treated timber as the copper used in the treatment is fatal to brom's and when hosed or wet by rain the copper can leach out and poison your plants if it drips or splashes on them. I know because I lost a lot of plants to copper poisoning in my early days with brom's.

As for my pic of Neo George's Prince; when I took that I didn't realise it still had a lot more colouring up to do as it was the first time I had grown it, so it does get a lot more colour than that. Regarding your seed, I find down here that if they haven't germinated within three weeks they're not going to germinate at all. This could be because the seed is too old, it isn't fertile or it's been contaminated by something, so if you don't have any luck with them, give me a “prod” and I'll send you up some fresh ones.

Colleen – Now the warm weather is on the way I think your seedlings will take off, I find that up here if we get a run of cold weather they just stop growing and “sulk” until the weather warms up again. That seedling in your pic still has a bit of growing to do yet but at this early stage it looks like it could be one of the many Neo Thunderbird seedlings I grew.

Wendy – Why don't you and Johnny buy a small portable alarm? You can get them at Dick Smiths for about $20 and they run on batteries. When you go out, just put it somewhere facing your good plants and set it. If someone comes in and activates it, it will sends out the most ear shattering high pitched scream you have ever heard. You set them with a numerical combination and you have about a thirty second delay to give you time to turn it off when you come home. I know they work well as I once had one under the house in my wine cellar and one night when we were having a barbecue and ran out of wine, I went down to the cellar to get another bottle, and forgot to turn off the alarm; Wow! My ears were still ringing for hours afterwards and the neighbours came running in thinking we were being robbed and it was all because some “tipsy idiot” forgot to turn off the alarm.

Sue your little Slc 'Jewel Box' brings back a lot of happy memories of my orchid growing days as I had about half a dozen of that grex all in various shades of scarlet red and like many brom's, it was almost impossible to accurately capture the various shades of red on film. Did you know that Slc. means ×Sophrolaeliocattleya and the plant has three different genera in its breeding? It's made up from Sophronitis, Laelia and Cattleya and of these three the Sophronitis, although the smallest, is the one that passes on it's vivid scarlet colouring. It has such a strong red gene it overrides any colours in the much larger other genera.

Jen – Nice to hear from you again. I saw that post on the Bromeliad Forum from ??"Garden Fairy” or something like that so I sent them a message and an offer to send the booklet if they sent me their email address as I tried the one on their profile and it didn't work. Anyway I didn't get an answer so maybe they got sorted out by someone else.

I'll probably get "drummed out of the service" for this, but Just for a change I'll finish with some orchid file pictures with the only one that is of my plants being the last one. Just remember it wasn't me who started sending orchid pic's, but once they stir up old memories it's hard not to reciprocate. The first three are to show examples of the three genera mentioned above.1 is Sophronitis Coccinea with the grower's hand for size comparison, 2, is Laelia Anceps, 3 is Cattleya Labiata, 4 shows Sophronitis cernua growing on a tree in Brazil and 5 shows a small group of some of the seedlings I bred from Cattleya 'Amber Glow'.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 20, 2012
12:01 AM

Post #9310263

yous are asking for it...as i have hundreds and hundreds of orchids and photos of them flowering, dont start me on a Brom thread.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 20, 2012
12:07 AM

Post #9310267

I just remember someone asking if i crosses these Fireballs...no i bought them.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 20, 2012
12:14 AM

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Hi Everyone!

Just stopping for a quick cup of tea and then I am back in the garden for a wee bit that will probably turn out for a longer bit I's sure.

Got a good start on the broms garden bed today which eventually will run the whole length of our fenceline, very pleased with the result so far. Less lawn for Joe to mow so he is very pleased.

Hi Nev our back fence is made of galvanised wire, you can see it in the below brom pics, it is a basic fence but we luv it because we can sit in our back yard and and it does not obstract us from enjoying the bushland surrounding us, this bushland is classed as the second dune as we are close to the beach and can walk out our back gate through this bushland to the beach. We call it the wetlands but most of the time it is dry apart from wetseason and then we get to also see lillipads and fish lol. We also get the pleasure of sitting back and watching all the wildlife thats around, today we watched a green tree snake fall from the paperbark tree onto lower branches and got some pics of it. I will post pic of snake after this thread.

Anyway, I will eventually hang all my pups on this fence to grow and this will free up space around the garden. Joe will run an irrigation line in the fence up high so that I can water this new garden bed and the pups and this will run the whole length of the back fence which I think will look great and bring a great deal more color and frogs into our yard, not that we don't have enough frogs at present we have heaps and I luv the fact that they adopt each and every brom as a new home to hide and keep cool in.

I will have to catch up with you all later, the garden calls to me lol. Trish, Trish where are you...lol

Speak soon!

Trish

Pic 1, 2, 3, 4 - New Brom Garden Bed - yeah
Pic 5 Paph Wellesleyanum - what a cutie

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 20, 2012
12:23 AM

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Pic 1 Green Tree Snake looking at us looking at it
Pic 2 Lucy having a wee nap while mum does all the hard work
Pic 3 Lucy - full body shot
Pic 4 More of the new brom garden
Pic 5 More of the new brom garden

Trish

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 20, 2012
6:30 AM

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Hi all, very hot again today. Thought we might get a storm this arvo but it came to nothing again.

Wendy, I wasn’t sure if I picked up the vr pink nova pod or not till we got home and checked. If you wouldn’t mind sending it, along with any other excess seed, I would love to give them a go. And, how do you know if you have the ‘bugs’ you mention … can you see them crawling in the container.

Jen, I know I did very well with the vrieseas from Johnny and am so pleased with them. I also got a lovely one of yours which Wendy had put aside, vr Red Dragon. I will post a pic of it tonight along with the beautiful vr Megan. That bill in your first pic, Caprice, is stunning.

Nev, speaking of sales … I know you don’t have a Masters down there but at the moment they have all their shade plants, including all their broms, selling at 50% discount. I bought a lovely big vr Ospinae Gruberi ‘Tiger Tim’ today, originally priced at $50.00. I will post a pic, 3 in fact, one of the vriesea as I purchased it (before), another after I removed 3 very large and 1 smaller pups (after), and another of the pups I removed. There is still another attached to Mum and she hasn’t flowered yet so I am hoping to get a few more. A pretty good buy I think for $25.00.

Also, Nev, we know of someone who was having so much trouble with his knees and was booked in for surgery before he started using a cream he raves about. Since using it, he claims his knees are so much better and he has cancelled the scheduled surgery. I know he buys it on line but I can’t remember the name but I will find out for you … worth a try I guess.

Trish, your brom garden looks just beautiful. I hope no one reaches over the fence and helps themselves to any of your lovely plants. I will attach a pic of my neo Muscat for comparison. I will need to do another post though as I think I am up to six pics.

Hi to Bree, Colleen, Ian and anyone else looking in.

Anyway, it's getting late so I'm off to bed very soon,

G'night all, Shirley


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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 20, 2012
6:32 AM

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Hi again, pic of my neo Muscat for Trish ...

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 20, 2012
12:45 PM

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good morning all.
What a stinker yesterday. The gauge reached 39 at about 3pm, before it finally started to cool down. It was 32 at 11am! I had my first swim of the season, and braved the 23 degree water. it felt colder when the air temps were more than 15 degrees warmer.
Anyway, I had done a little bit of watering in the morning, as I could tell it was going to be a hot one, but I noted a few crispy broms yesterday afternoon (in the garden) and suspect here might be a bit of bleaching on the leaves of some Neos in the brom house Time will tell.
Today is forecast to be cooler, and we are supposed to get rain this afternoon, so fingers crossed.
Hi Jen, I loved the broms you posted! Especially the Billbergia and the last Neo. I passed the Nova seeds on to Belinda, as I have my hands (and space) full, and she has a pretty good success rate with seedlings. I must ask her how they are going.
Nev, that was the first time in a long time that I have seen anything other than table top bromeliads in BigW. The Neos were quite small, and only the three. I admit, I was excited to see something different. We are so limited for choice here, although we do have two very good growers in town, so I shouldn't complain. We're just not very likely to get bargains like Shirleys.
I am a bit confused about the light required for N. 'Midnight' as I have found mine to get the darker colouring with more light, but to be greener with shade, and fertilising.
I had been given the breakdown on the name Slc from Jack, as he used to breed orchids before he got into the bromeliads. I have had him ID a few orchids for me in the past. I like the Cattleya in your photos the best.
Bree, I see no harm in slipping an Orchid photo in with each post. It seems that alot of the members here have a bit of interest in them. Does anyone have any objections? I think as long as it doesn't take over (and I CANT see that) One or two pretty pics wont hurt anyone.
Trish, that Phaph is really cute and I love the spotty leaves. Your garden looks great, and the plants are all stunning. Almost too much to take in! I would love to have a little stroll along there and have a good look. The photo of the snake is very well done, and Lucy looks very relaxed. I can't wait to see the garden with the pups on the fence. It will look awesome.
Shirley, you were so lucky with that V. ospinae gruberi. What alot of pups! I heard a rumour that we might get a Masters store, so I hope, if we do, that we get bargains like yours. I am glad you got a Red Dragon. They are a lovely Vriesea. Nice wide leaves. I hope you get some rain, as I imagine I feel the same way, here, waiting...waiting...waiting...
Well, I guess I should head outside and see what the damage is? My philosophy is simple. If a pant has died or been damaged beyond saving, it means room for something new!
Sue
I haven't got photos of anything new today, as I have to take the SD card out of the camera to transfer pictures, and that means getting out of bed!
Tomorrow!



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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 20, 2012
1:25 PM

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I am members of the brom and orchid threads and theres getting alot of orchids on the brom thread now, i just think you's may as well have a orchid thread as well. What about members that dont like orchids and do broms or vise versa. I run a orchid website and delete anything on it not about orchids or you get to much unrelated stuff. I supose its just us though and not many new members. And we all like orchids. And believe me they do 'take over'. hehe! If you want to see my orchids see the orchid thread.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 20, 2012
1:25 PM

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Hi all - I hope everyone is well and anyone who has been on the sick list is on the improve. It's been good to see so many posting again and the accompanying pictures always add interest to a post, so keep up the good work.

Breeindy – Sorry, I didn't mean to start a pic.war, it's just that the recent pic's of orchids have opened up old wounds and roused me from a previous life.

Do you have a little miniature among your other Fireballs called Neo Zoe? It's a hybrid made by Chester Skotak and another of the many Fireball hybrids and is very attractive with its variegated markings in different shades of red when grown in good light. (See Pic1)

Trish – What a great looking view you must have, just brom's, brom's and more brom's, and it will just be so much more interesting with a wall of colour as a backdrop. Just out of interest, how long has the fence been up? I ask this because sometimes if the galvanised mesh is new it can burn the brom's where they touch it. If it's been up for a while and is weathered that should be fine, if not you can neutralise the zinc in the galvanising by washing with vinegar to prevent any chance of burning the plants. I previously had a sheet of galvanised mesh on which I hung plants and I found that everywhere the leaves touched it they started to die. A friend of mine who breeds parrots told me it was the zinc in the galvanising that was the problem as all parrot breeders who had their aviaries made of galvanised wire mesh had to neutralise the zinc in this way as the parrots would chew on it and die from zinc poisoning. So I did the vinegar trick and no more problems. Another answer of course is to paint the mesh but that's a lot more tedious but is made easier with a small paint roller and someone working from each side.

What's the name of the brom with the purple centre that's top left in pic four on the left side of the post in your first lot of pic's? It's quite a stand-out which quickly caught my eye and clearly displays the concentric rings I spoke of a few posts back.

It's great to have lots of frogs around as it's a sign of a healthy environment and besides they are a good indicator of whether there is a snake somewhere on the ground nearby. (I don't know about tree snakes). When I grew orchids in a previous life I had a large fish pond in the middle of my shade house and there was always activity around it with frogs and lizards doing their thing. One day I went down to the shade house and something didn't seem right, there was no movement anywhere and everything was so quiet. When I looked toward the pond there was a beautiful big five foot black snake lying along the rocks at the back of the pond sunning himself. He looked so shiny and clean and a beautiful creature but unfortunately an enemy of the lizards and frogs who had all gone into hiding. So I guess the moral of the story is, if your frogs are absent and all's quiet, keep your eyes open for snakes.

I'm pleased to see the green tree snake didn't wake up your little mate who looks so comfortable and well fed she probably couldn't be bothered chasing him anyway.

Looking at the fence in the second lot of pic's I see you have heaps more fence to use yet. It looks so good with a garden in front and would certainly reduce the amount of grass you have to cut, and what a picture it would make with brom's hanging right along it; that is as long as Wendy's “visitor“ doesn't come calling, but then I imagine the “watch dog” would take care of that.

Shirley – We don't have a Masters down here but there is one on the way in about two years so I read in the paper. That's a fantastic buy you made with the Vr. Gruberi, WOW! What a bargain.
I love the little Vr 'Red Dragon' is that another of John Catlan's babies? It's certainly a beautiful plant which will only improve as it gets more size.

I'd certainly like to know more about this cream for sore knees you speak of as I've now got to the stage where I'd try “Sulphuric Acid” if I thought it would do any good, Ha! Ha! If your friend has cancelled his surgery he must be getting good results from it and I will be grateful for anything you can tell me about it.

Sue - I was just about to hit the "send" button and I saw there was another post. It seems we both must look at the forum at the same time each morning. Looks like I'll have to get up earlier to beat you to the draw. Our weather yesterday was only a bit warm in the morning but then a cool southerly breeze came up and made it quite pleasant out in the yard and fortunately not as hot as you copped it.

As far as the light requirements for Neo. 'Midnight' and I assume we are talking about the same plant which was once called "Voodoo"; I grow mine in the shady south western corner of the shade house which would be the shadiest area in the shade house. The only fertilizer it gets is when the pup is originally potted up. I find that it maintains its dark (almost black) colour in this way. I have another one in another part of the yard beneath shade cloth but perhaps getting just a little more light (not much more) and with this one I find there are small spots of green throughout the foliage. This is very puzzling as it seems to be the complete opposite to what you've found. Maybe it's a climatic thing or the result of your fertilizing programme, who knows? Strange things happen to different brom's in different areas.

Well that's it for another day and more file pic's of other people's plants. The pic's today are 1 Neo 'Zoe' (for Breeindy), 2 is Ae Weilbachii Pendula grown by one of our recently deceased brom society members. What's unusual about this is the number of flower spikes on the single plant, 3 is a close up of my Edmundoa Lindenii rosea showing the unusual pale green flowers, 4 is Hohenbergia Castellanosii and 5 is a picture of a NOID Guzmania or possibly a bi-generic hybrid with Guzmania in the breeding. It was a gift to an old friend of mine from another brom grower who didn't know the name either. The main thing about this plant is that I stayed in flower for thirteen months (the pic was taken at twelve months) so I reckon that's quite a record wouldn't you say? If anyone here has a name for it I'd like to know it.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 21, 2012
12:18 AM

Post #9310985

Hi Everyone!

Thanks for the kind complements regarding my new bromeliad garden bed. Joe ran the irrigation line right along the whole of the fence line which is great as I plan to continue extending the new garden bed right up until it reaches my heliconia and ginger garden. I will work on it some more next weekend, one day a weekend is sufficient as I have so many other things to do the following day before the weekends over, only wish I had more time to spend in the garden.

Hi Nev thanks for the kind complement regarding the new bromeliad garden bed and for the helpful advice regarding our galvanised wire fence, lucky it is over 13 years old so it has well and truly lost its sparkle a long time ago and can’t see it harming the broms thankfully.

Nev the brom pic you asked about is Neo Cliff Siverd and yes it definitely has strong concentric rings all over it which I luv as well as everything else that is going on in the brom, it has grown so huge since first when purchased and I cannot wait for it to give my some pups because I would luv to see more of these around the yard like Neo Muscat because they really stand out amongst all the others and I always look at them and go Wow I luv this and that one.

Nev great pics as always, especially luved your Pic 4 Hohenbergia Castellanosii (what a mouthful), I have not seen this one before and really like it’s shape, colours and flowers, it looks great growing grouped together like that.

Hi Shirley thanks for posting a pic of your Neo Muscat, that’s what mine one looked like when I first purchased it so your one should colour up like mine but I think mine still has some more colouring up to do.

Yeah the broms are going to be pretty safe as there is a 2 metre retaining wall overlooking the wetland area, so the top of the fence is about 3.5 metres high from the wetlands, so it will take either a tall basketball player or a person with a ladder to even reach them lol.

Shirly beautiful pics you have posted, I am blown away by all of those Tiger Tims, how beautiful they all look together. Vr. Red Dragon is gorgeous and has been on my want list for some time now but I keep getting other Vrieseas, especially the ones I have been looking out for some time. Yes I agree when the pups get hung on the fence to grow I think it will look good, I just need to make sure I use the same colour for all of the pots otherwise I think it will look a bit too much colour going on there.

Hi Sue, so pleased you liked my new brom garden and the orchid, I will keep taking pics as I keep lengthening the garden bed and filling it with broms, hopefully I can keep the straight line thing going when I lay the bricks down otherwise it won’ look as nice.

Hi Bree nice brom pic, luv the curly ends on that plant, something different than usual.

I am potting- up 6 new vrieseas today and after that just want to water all the vrieseas in the entertainment area so they are right for the week.

Joe has some small orchids he want to re-pot into larger pots so we will sit together and do this for the next couple of hours until it is time to come in and cook dinner.

Hi Karen, Jen, Tash, Chrissy – how are you guys, hope you are all well we miss hearing from you all!

Anyway time to put the kettle on.

Take care and look forward to speaking to you all soon.

Have a wonderful week and Happy Gardening!

Pic 1 Neo Cliff Siverd for Nev this time picture taken on its own
Pic 2 Neo Nelson (Gift from Bree – thanks Bree)
Pic 3 Another brom garden bed that still has to be made and will be shaded eventually
Pic 4 NOID – Any ideas would be appreciated?
Pic 5 Neo Gun Powder

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 21, 2012
12:56 AM

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Tiger looks nice, a Ring Leader pup(i think i posted Shirley and maybe Nev one of these), I love Wild Gossip, Treasure Chest is about to flower and last is a baby Gespacho.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 21, 2012
1:06 AM

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No Nev i dont have a Zoe, i dont really collect Fireball crosses i just got given this one pot full, i dont really like minis much. I love your Hohenbergia Castellanosii, nice colours.
Love Cliff Siverd Trish.
Heres Pink River and Red River, is there such a thing as Pink River?

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ianperry

October 21, 2012
2:29 AM

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Hi all, another day dry and hot. I broke up a few more broms and did some more cleaning up of both plants and yard. I also tried to buy a couple of plants on e bay but was pipped at the post. I can always try another time. I went to a nursery today where I got some suggestions about mould before I joined this group. I gave feedback and made another suggestion there about their scale problem. Then I bought 2 clean plants and took them home, treated them as a precaution and have them in quarrantine.

Trish, you seem to be doing just what I want to do. I have to stop the leaves falling on where I want to put my broms first or spend a lot of time cleaning out leaves. I'd rather do something more constructive. My neighbours and I have trees overhanging the fence lines. They did protect us from the cyclone a couple of years ago so I don't really want to remove all of them. I like your snake, the green tree snake is the only predator that can eat a cane toad without poisoning itself. You beaut gardens, ought to look better when finished.

Shirley, nice Vrs all on my wants list . If it is to be they will come my way one day or night.We do have night shopping here in some places.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae leudamannia
Pic 2 N Carolinae Lady
Pic 3 N Marble Miss
Pic 4 N Sally Joy
Pic 5 N forrest drive

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perke_patch

October 21, 2012
5:49 AM

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Hi everyone
Gee if you miss a day it takes ages to catch up on all the reading.
Trish I think your NOID might be nidularium longiflorum. has it flowered for you yet? if not it has a lovely red flower that lasts for many months. can't find a pic of it but we have lots. might have to reload a cd copy. Pic 1 is for you Trish to show you some wire rings we bought to hang pots on the mesh shelves. Johnny has a gig now so he says he can make more of these. we'll see how he goes. I thought something like this would be what you need to hang your pups on the fence. all you need is a horizontal bar to hook the ends over. I love you new garden too by the way.

Pic 2 is clockwise from top left purple surprise, purple star and front carnival and pic 3 is their pups clockwise top purple star, purple surprise & magnifica (the tag says magnifica but I'm sure the exercise was to show the 3 mature plants looking similar then the3 pups off those plants showing totally different colours ... so I think magnifica is there incorrectly and should be carnival) I tried to get a good pic of neo purple star but can't find one on the external drive. I'll have to transfer some more pics from the CD's I used to burn them to.

I got another black pod off the ae macfoster (aka macroclamys) today and again a single seed so that's 4 seeds sown but only 1 little green plant so far. fingers crossed I get a couple more at least.

I potted up a few billbergia seedlings today. they were from a tray of bill mexicana seed I got from Brom-L seedbank back in August. I'm sure the tray said 8.8.12 as the date seed was sown. not bad rate of growing. now to heavily fertilise for a while to get some good growth happening.

Well time for bed now. chat to you all again tomorrow night. I know there were other pics I wanted to comment on but I can't remember what they were. will have to start using 2 screens or tabs so I can look and write at same time.

Night all.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 21, 2012
1:11 PM

Post #9311385


Good morning on this lovely monday morning!
What a lovely weekend, topped off by a ride through Grafton, filled with jacarandas, silky oaks and Illawarra flame trees all abloom! Just gorgeous.
I Haven't found alot of damaged broms from saturdays heat, so I am pleased about that. I will do some watering this morning, so I can have a good look as I go.
Nev, you and I must have the same eye, as I admired Trishes Neo. 'Cliff Siverd' too. I didn't realise this one got so big. This one has been o n my wish list for years. I'm not in a hurry for it though. Happy to stumble accross one in my travels, as its the hunt that gets me going! heh heh.
As for N. 'Midnight', yes, same one AKA N. 'Voodoo'. I have no fertiliser regime and have a clump growing hard in the garden with alot of sun and they are 'Black'. I just love them.
When grown in the brom house, under 70% beige, they still go dark, but get a bit of green around the edges, and some red tones also. I haven't noticed green spots though. I will go and peer into their depths later!
now, i know that Hohenbergia castellanossi is not yours, because you would never be able to get that red, so do tell, whose is it? Its just gorgeous! I have one in the garden and did get red tips last year, but I'm talking millimetres! I gave one, with a pup, to a very good friend, and kept one small pup for myself, so will grow it on and see if I can get some red tips when it matures. Its need very warm weather and hard conditons to get that red. Tash, Ian and trish are the most likely members here to get good colour in one.
Ian, don't you just hate that? I have been pipped at the post on ebay numerous times in the past, but sometimes I am glad, because I find out later I was bidding way too much anyway. I haven't bought from Ebay for over 22 months! (pat on my back) as I much prefer the hands on experience, and meeting the grower. In saying that, I met lots of growers through Ebay, and had predominantly good experiences with my purchases. I have learned that plants from north qld will sulk for a year or two here, where as ones from south of me, do very well.
Wendy, I thought Trish's noid was a Nidularium as well. I have an unamed one, rather large, soft pale green leaves, that has a baby pink flower as it starts, that turns to deep red, almost like a rose in the center. Its coming into flower now, so when it does, I will post a pic. Like you, I probably have one on file on the other computer, but getting to that, at this minute, is too hard!
Well, better get motivated
so big hellos, and hope all is well to Tash, karen, Shirley, Colleen, and you (if I missed anyone, that should cover it)
Sue
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 21, 2012
1:15 PM

Post #9311387

Bree, just a follow up on the orchid discussion. The orchid thread is only able to be viewed by paying subscribers, hence I am unable to join in there anyway. thats why I love our Australian Forum, like our people, everything is shared for free!

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 21, 2012
1:16 PM

Post #9311388

1 and 2 are NOIDS then theres Aussie Dream? and Decora.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 21, 2012
1:18 PM

Post #9311390

I thought we all paid to be on Daves Garden? Its not very expensive though.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 21, 2012
5:36 PM

Post #9311612

Hi everyone - Well the sun's gone to bed and with the southerly change and lower temperature it's now starting to rain; not that I'm complaining, as we can always use a bit of rain to freshen things up. I just wish I had the power to send some up to you people who are reliant on tanks as I grew up with tanks and know just what a nuisance it is to have to watch every single drop.

Trish – Thanks for posting the pic of Neo 'Cliff Severd', it's a beautiful plant and your pic really shows how nice it is and does it more credit than the pic's on the BCR. To think it was first registered way back in 1978 I can't understand how it hasn't found its way down here yet and it's certainly one I'll be looking for, so if anyone on here has a spare pup to swap, please let me know.

It's interesting to see when tracing its parentage, that one of it's parents (Neo.Takemura Princeps) is bred from Neo. Vulkan which was registered way back in 1955. It has concentrica as one of its parents so it just goes to show how strong that concentrica gene is that passes on those “broken concentric rings” as it's still coming through to the new generations after all of that time (almost sixty years).

Regarding what colour pots you should use for the plants you will hang from the fence, I couldn't agree more with what you say about “too much colour going on”, as bright pot colours certainly do detract from the colour of the plants. I personally favour black pots as they don't detract from the colour of the plant, also I could once buy a dark olive green coloured pot which was even better as it blended in well with the green foliage but they don't seem to be available down here any more. I once heard a judge comment that “coloured pots other than black shouldn't be allowed in competition as they detracted too much from the plant; after all he was judging the plant and not the pot”, and I think the same applies when anyone is looking at brom's, after all your main interest is in the plant and not the pot. Sometimes with just a single plant, the right choice of pot can compliment the plant, but only in a one off situation not with a whole fence full of pots.

Sorry I can't help you with an ID for the NOID in pic. 4 but I do like the nice lime coloured foliage. The burn on the leaf suggests to me they may be a bit on the thin side and could be one of the Nidulariums and Nid. Longiflorum (Pic.1) as Wendy suggests could be right on the money. I would grow it in a more shaded area than the Neo's until you know for sure just what it is in case it falls victim to more burning.

Breeindy – I must agree with you, your Tiger is looking nice, but it will improve even further as it gets older, certainly a nice plant. To answer your question “is there such a thing as Pink River?” There is an unregistered plant getting around called Neo 'Pink River' and I have one (see Pic.2), but mine looks different to yours, but then mine is only a pup and it may change as it ages.

Ian – That's an interesting fact about the Green Tree Snake being able to eat the Cane Toad without poisoning itself; maybe we should all stop growing brom's and start breeding Green Tree Snakes to let them loose among the Cane Toad populations.

I know how you like to get things right so I'll correct you on the spelling of the name of the plant in your first pic. It is Ae. Lueddemanniana, I know this because I once grew them from seed and had to write out about fifty name tags which was very tiring.

Your Neo. 'Forest Drive' will turn into a very attractive plant when it grows a bit more. It's a bit similar to a Brazilian species I have called Neo. marmorata (see Pic.3) and very possibly has that species somewhere back in its breeding lines (if you care to trace it back on the BCR), as this type of marking seems to dominate whenever Neo. marmorata is used as a parent.

Wendy – As soon as Trish said she was going to hang plants on the fence I thought of those particular wire pot hangers, but before I could take a pic of one, you've beat me to it again. I think Johnny will agree, they are pretty easy to make once you have a jig set up and what's more you can make them to suit any size pot. They're a good hanger and cheap to make.

Your pic's 2 and 3 are great examples which demonstrates that we shouldn't be surprised when we buy a pup of a particular plant only to find it looks nothing like the adult plant. If we buy our pups from reputable growers/dealers there is no problem, but some stall holders at markets will often have a box of pups in front of an adult plant to show what the pups will turn out like. Unfortunately when the pup matures it's nothing like the plant you were told it was, and of course the stall holder has since long gone by that stage as he/she was just another of the unscrupulous people who sell at markets on a “one off” basis to rip off unsuspecting customers. The moral of the story; only buy from people you know and trust or who are recommended by your friends.

Wendy, I too looked for a pic of Purple Star which showed the true beauty of the plant, but like you, no luck; and I find this another plant which I have difficulty when trying to capture the correct colour with my camera. I also have a Neo 'Pink Star' and again I can't correctly capture the beautiful colour with this one either. I guess I'm just not much of a photographer!

It's certainly going to be very interesting to see what the seed from your Ae. macroclamys produces, and the fact that you are only getting one seed from each pod is even more puzzling. I'm sure we will all “watch this space” for further updates.

Wendy the name of the seed you got from Brom-L Seedbank which was Bill. mexicana, is now called Bill. Pallidiflora, see below:

Billbergia mexicana Mez, 1919
This taxon is no longer valid, it is now considered as a synonym of Billbergia pallidiflora.
Check there for more information.
It seems the taxonomists just keep changing the names to confuse us all.

Sue - Looks like you "pipped" me again today. What you say about the Jacarandas, Silky Oaks and Illawarra Flame Trees has just jogged my memory to a place we went years ago. The whole long drive up to the farm house was planted alternately with these three types of trees and they too were all in full flower. The owner reckoned that they only ever all flowed at the same time every five years or so; I don't know if that was right or he was telling “porkies”.

I'll have to try growing one of my 'Midnights” out in the open and see what happens, maybe mine's not the “real deal” but some sort of hybrid imposter.

Sorry I can't help you with the Hohenbergia as it was a pic. shown on one of the forums years ago by a grower in Mexico and I saved it in a file because I thought it looked something “special”.

Well that's it for today, I've raved on long enough. Pic 1 is for Trish and is Nid. Longiflorum, Pic 2 is for Breeindy to compare with hers and is my Neo 'Pink River' (pup). Pic 3 is Neo marmorata and is for Ian to see the similarities to the markings of the plant in his Pic 5. Pic.4 is Ae 'Pie in the Sky', a plant in my opinion which is very much underrated and will grow just as well on rocks, in a tree or in a pot. Pic 5 is to show the mammoth scale of mass production at one of the big European bromeliad nurseries. By the way, there is a “free cigar” in it for the person who guesses the correct number of plants shown in the pic.

All the best, Nev.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 22, 2012
6:46 AM

Post #9312007

Hi all, lots of catching up again. Another hot day here today and we missed out on the rain again too. I spent a lot of time today watering the gardens and now the wind has come up and it’s going to dry everything out. The majority of plants in the gardens are looking very stressed, some of them losing their leaves.

Nev, I don’t know the history of vr Red Dragon but I agree it’s a beautiful plant. Wendy or Jen would be able to tell you more.

I think the arthritis cream I mentioned was called McArthur Paw Paw Extract or similar but I will find out for you. Also, love your Ae Pie in the Sky and as for your Pic 5 … I’m guessing there are 6217 broms … now that’s a SHADE HOUSE!!

Bree, yes you did send me a neo Ring Leader pup and it’s looking really good. I will have to post a photo of it.

Sue, glad you don’t have too much sun damage to your broms. I had a bit of a panic attack and put another layer of shadecloth over mine yesterday … just to be sure.

Recently I purchased a neo with the name ‘wild ruby’ and checked the BSI for details. I found two different entries for neo wild ruby there, neither of which looks anything like the one I bought. I will post a pic (pic 1) and if anyone knows its’ correct name, I would love to know. Is it unusual to have two different neos registered with the same name. Pic 2 is neo Purple Star.

Anyway, it’s getting late, so I’m off … till tomorrow,

Shirley

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perke_patch

October 22, 2012
7:17 AM

Post #9312051

Hi everyone. time for bed already so just a quick one tonight.
Nev I took a pic (pic 1) of neo purple star late this afternoon and I am quite pleased with the colour. maybe it was the flash that helped.
Pic 2 is one I discovered when lifting purple star down. the colours were stunning and worth a pic. it is neo kismet.
Pic 3 is neo grace x passion. we have a few of these in totems all colouring up at the moment. they are stunning.

Who turned the heat off? we went to sizzler's for lunch today just to sit in air conditioned comforrt for a little time. then we came home and I potted pups tlll almost 6pm. I was so hot and sticky I went straight in for a shower and change into a cool cotton dress. I sat down with my feet up to enjoy a cuppa and up came the wind. I felt like changing my clothes again to something warmer. it's quite chilly outside in the wind now. someone flicked a switch.

Off to bed now so night everyone.
Wendy

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 22, 2012
12:44 PM

Post #9312355

Nev your pink rivers looks nicer than mine, i dont think mine is but have to wait and see i supose, mines pretty young to. I just bought a Ae 'Pie in the Sky', good to see what it'll look like thanks Nev. Wow! Im not even going to guess how many plants are in that photo, luck i dont smoke. hehe!
Wendy love them broms..yes we are having a cool day today from really hot 30+ days the last few.
Heres my Aechmea Orlandianas and my Shining lights(might not be able to handle the amount of light there in) love the red under there leaves though.
Dont mind the weeds aound the pots. hehe!

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 22, 2012
1:20 PM

Post #9312378

Good morning,
well, talk about windy! Its been blowing a gale all night! I didn't even know it was coming, so didn't get around to batten down the hatches. I hope everything is faring ok, although I did spot a big Aechmea lying down in the garden and an A. blanchettiana lying sideways also, and it was in the ground! When it dies down, I'll get out there for a look, but its too dangerous out there now, with gum branches flying through the air! We haven't had much rain out of it, but I can see big black clouds out to sea.
Nev, I went and had a closer look at N. 'Midnight'...and there ARE little green spots! I had never noticed them before, as I just just take it in visually as the whole, rather than the little details. Anyway, I don't mind the spots, since they have not been noticed by me before, but I might try pup in a bit more shade next time. How much shade are you giving yours?
I'm not sure of the truth behind the flowering tree theory either, but I have been to Grafton in the past, at Jacaranda time, and hadn't noticed it quite as spectacular. What was interesting, is you can have one leafless Illawarra flame tree, covered in flowers, right next to another Illawarra flame tree in full foliage, without a bloom. Unfortunately I didn't take pictures as hubby was in the lead (so no unscheduled stopping thank you) and unless I can get a helmet cam, I didn't have hands free to take any photos, but helmet cams are getting cheaper these days, so maybe time to invest in one, as i do see some interesting sights when out and about.
I'm not going to try and guess how many plants are in that wholesale nursery, but I don't like cigars anyway. Now if you'd had a Vriesea 'Crackerjack' on offer, I might have got the magnifying glass out and had a go?
Hi Shirley, I agree, its time for the second layer of shade cloth. I am surprised I didn't get much damage, as it was a scorcher of a day, but maybe there is more damage and it just hasn't shown up yet. I am not familiar with your plant in pic one, but I like the rings.
To answer Nevs question, yes, V. 'Red Dragon' is a seedling from Catlans nursry. I'm not sure what the parentage is, but there are alot of similar coloured seedlings in the batch, and all seem to have those nice, wide leaves.
Wendy, those are nice plants you have posted there. I know what you mean about the temps. I pulled the Doona back on in the middle of the night.
I don't know what I am going to do today? Usually I am out gardening and filling the green waste bin for tomorrows collection, but its soooo WINDY! I potted up succulents into those $2 Kmart troughs, to make nice Xmas pots for my december sale, and have plenty of brom potting to do, but my pinebark hasn't aged enough yet. I layered it with dolomite and a tea made with dynamic lifter pellets, and now it just has to sit for awhile and brew. I could probably use it to upsize already potted bromeliads, but it wouldn't be any good for pups i don't think?
photo one is the worst affected plant from Saturdays heat. Its an N. 'Fireball' cross
Photo two is A. blanchettiana, variegated, or almost albo anyway. I grow this in morning sun or it goes nearly all one colour with too much light.
photo three is V. platynema x heiroglyphica from Nev
photo four is a pup off a V. fosteriana that is making some nice markings, but could just be a sign of fertilising.
photo five is a garden shot, showing Alcantarea extensa coming into spike, next to V. teurckheimii
Well thats it for me today. The sun is shining, with a back drop of big black clouds. RAIN...RAIN. never thought I' say that again!
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 22, 2012
2:04 PM

Post #9312426

Hi everyone – What a day we had yesterday, three seasons in one. It was raining in the morning and then about 10 am the sun came out and everything looked beautiful and fresh. Then the wind came up and it really blew quite strongly, so strong in fact that it blew one of my wife's terracotta pots off her bench of succulents and it broke on the concrete. I supposes it could have been much worse, it could have been a brom! After an hour or two of strong wind, the temperatures dropped about ten degrees and it started raining again, which continued overnight. This morning although still cloudy is so far not raining, so I have to see what happens after breakfast so I can plan my day.

Shirley – I think I remember Wendy or Sue saying that 'Red Dragon' was one of John Catlan's seedlings and that 'Red Dragon' was the grex name. It seems that John, like a few of the other hybridisers are still hanging onto the old way of plant naming, i.e. under the Royal Horticultural System which is still used to name orchids today.

The system of naming brom's today is that you register each individual plant that you think is worthy of a name. The remainder of the grex (all of the seedlings from that particular batch of seed) just go through life being NOIDS, and that's why there are so many NOIDS about.

With the old system of naming, the whole of the grex was registered i.e. each plant had the same grex name i.e. Vriesea 'Red Dragon' (Just like all of the kids from the same two parents have the same surname) to eliminate confusion, the special ones, were given a varietal name e.g. Vriesea Red Dragon var. (variety) 'Shirley' or Vriesea Red Dragon variety 'Brisbane' or any other name that hadn't already been registered (just like kids are given a "first name" to distinguish them from their brothers and sisters). By using this system, it was easier to trace the plants parentage as you already knew what part of the heritage was i.e. (the surname). I don't know why it was changed , (if it ain't broke, don't fix it) but like so many things other these days, things are often changed for the sake of changing.

Thank's for the name of the “arthritis cream”, I'll Google it and see what comes up. I'm afraid your count of the number of brom's in the picture doesn't even come close and the “shade house”, is a fully automated light, temperature and humidity controlled glasshouse and I'm glad I'm not picking up the power bill.

As for two different plants of Neo 'Wild Ruby' being registered, I think that was a case of the Registrar of the time not checking the records first before the plant was registered. This has happened a few times but fortunately not very often. There are two reasons why your 'Wild Ruby' looks nothing like the ones pictured on the BCR, firstly it may have been named under the old system (where the whole grex was named) and not given a varietal name, and secondly it may have been a NOID that someone has just stuck there own selection of a name on; confusing to say the least. Both of the plants are from different parents and were registered by Australian hybridisers Bob Larnach 1986 and Margaret Patterson 2001. If it's any consolation, I think your plant is as good as either of the others.

Wendy – I like your plant of Kismet, it has a bit of shape about it and I was wondering where it gets the shape from so I looked up the BCR and see that the seed parent is Neo 'Pink Polka Dot' and the pollen parent is an unknown Hummel hybrid.

Checking back on the Neo 'Pink Polka Dot' heritage I drew a blank as it's also a Hummel hybrid and Hummel, unfortunately although he registered a lot of hybrids, never listed the names of the parents; I don't know the reason, maybe he thought someone was going to copy the cross and “steal some of his thunder”.

I know in some cases of registration the pollen parent is unknown but usually the seed parent has a name, unless of course its a NOID. In Hummel's registrations however, (everyone I've seen so far) doesn't list any parents, and personally I don't think they should ever have been registered as the purpose of the BCR is to help follow the breeding history of the plants registered.

It's interesting that you say your Neo Grace x Passion plants are all colouring up, as mine are also, even though we live quite a distance apart with different climates.

Sue – Gee it seems like you really copped some crook weather, damaging wind and then the heat. Judging by your little Fireball, maybe summer precautions might have to be taken earlier this year.

I love the variegated “blanchy”, I've never seen anything like that down here, the closest I have is an albo-marginated Ae. Caudata. The Vr. platynema x hieroglyphica seedling could turn into a nice plant as it's already displaying a bit of decent shape so I'm glad it found a home with someone who knows how to grow them well. As you say the “different” banding on the Vr fosteriana could be due to fertiliser but I read where it can also be caused by sudden changes in temperature when the leaves were first forming. As usual the overall pic of your garden just looks great, I wish I had your skill to turn my “back yard mess” into something nice like that.

Well that's it for today so I'll just post a few pic's to finish with.Pic 1 is Nidularium Campos-Portoi, 2 is Aechmea 'Foster's Favourite', and “oldie” but a “goodie”, 3 is just a few plants of Vriesea 'Arden' (named after John Arden a well know hybridiser), 4 is a pineapple who decided it would do it's own mass production thing and pic 5 shows what some of the Dutch mass producers are up to, coloured scurf? What next ?

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 22, 2012
7:55 PM

Post #9312684

Hi Everyone!

In bed home sick today trying to rest and sleeping a lot which is not like me, anyway hopefully tomorrow will be a better day as I need to get back to work. Perfect opportunity while I am laying here doing nothing exciting to cheer myself up by reading everyone’s threads and look at the beautiful pictures everyone has posted which cheers me up. Apologies in advance if this thread explodes into a novel as I do not usually get this opportunity to spend time properly on the weekend chatting with everyone on this forum.

Hi Bree pleased to hear you also liked Neo Cliff Siverd; I am on the lookout for more of these because they are such a gorgeous looking brom and look amazing in the garden. Hopefully I can get my hands on some more so I can share giving out some pups one day. Nice pics of Neo Pink River, I have White River and Red River and luv them. My Red River is a good size but White River is still just a pup with lots more growing to do but is colouring up well.

Hi Ian thanks for the complements regarding the start of my new brom garden bed, it still has a long way to go but eventually I want a huge line of broms to take up pretty much the whole back fence line of our garden, we have a quarter of this area taken up with hedges and shrubs so I utilise the gaps in between these shrubs to shade more neo’s and vrieseas as this area gets a lot more sun because the paperbark gumtrees in the wetlands do not shade this area as much as they sit further back in the wetlands to where I have started the new brom garden bed project, the gumtrees are closer to the fence in the wetlands. Yes gumtree leaves are a nuisance but reward us with beautiful shade to sit under and protect all my brom babies so I am very thankful to pick out gum leaves as little or as much as I need to. I also compost all leaves from the gumtrees, avocado and mango tree and mix this through my compost bins that I have four of and since I have been doing this I have been making my own compost for the herb and vegetable patch and everything grows great. At some stage I also want to get a worm farm but have enough to occupy my time at present. Ian I did not know that a green tree snake could eat a cane toad – wow I thought their mouth would be too small as their head is as small as my thumb, some even smaller. Anyway that’s possible why we don’t get many cane toads about as I see tree snakes at least 3 times a week. We also have many large green tree frogs that are my absolute favourite of the frog species and they eat snakes because I caught one eating a green tree snake once and was blown away by this but they have no problem undertaking the task given how large their gobs are lol. Ian I really liked your pics of Neo Sally Joy and Neo Forrest Drive, ones I will have to look at getting down the track to add to my quickly growing collection.

Hi Wendy thanks for the kind complements regarding my new brom garden bed and for trying to identify my NOID that you think might be Nidularium Longiflorum, yes it is flowering at the moment a beautiful soft cream centre, and I will have to take a picture on the weekend to post. I was pleased when I brought this brom from a garage sale for $5, at the time of purchase it had a burn mark on one of its leaves and I had to pull off a lot of damaged and old leaves from the very bottom of the plant, the picture I posted was when I first brought it about 4 months ago, it has grown considerably since but still has that burn mark on its leaf. I have it in a nice shady spot between the avocado and mango trees and it really likes it there. Wendy thanks very much for posting pic of the wire rings for my pots, I will need them soon given how well all my bromeliads are growing with pups sure to pop their heads up soon. I am going to buy a box of smaller pots in prep for the pups and Joe is going to look at making these wire rings for me so I have them at the ready to use, any helpful hints from Johnny on how best to make these wire rings would be greatly appreciated. I can’t wait to start hanging my pups on the fence above my other broms, my only concern is when I fertilise the pups, even if it is a week solution, if it drips onto the mature neo’s below will it cause them to loose colour, strip them of their colour as I plan to fertilise the pups fortnightly. Worse case scenario I will need to take the pup pots down and fertilise them under a tree, let them drip dry before hanging them up again? I would appreciate everyone’s thoughts on this? Wendy really like all your brom pics especially given purple is my favourite colour, as soon as I see a brom with purple in it, it goes straight on my really want list lol.

Hi Sue sorry to hear of the bad weather you experience and the sun damage to you brom, hope it is just the one that got damage, hope you do not have too much cleaning up to do with fallen tree branches and leaf debris etc. Thanks from trying to identify NOID which is possibly Nidularium Longiflorum, I will post pic on the weekend of it showing soft cream coloured flower centre to see what all you guys think? Sue pleased to hear you really liked Neo Cliff Siverd too, I must get more of this one so I can get pups to share with everyone and also put some more around the garden to admire as I really luv the purple markings through this one as they are really stand out. Regarding Neo Midnight yes I noticed that mine has the green flecks but that you really have to look for the flecks to be able to see them. Sue nice pics of your vrieseas and the different markings on Fosteriana, especially luv your garden shot that looks like an amazing huge area for you to fill up with more bromeliads, this area looks like a nice shady area, is it? I am imagining if I had this area what huge broms I could grow and how many I could fit in that one area would be wonderful.

Hi Nev thanks for the great feedback regarding Neo Cliff Siverd (is it Siverd or Severd I noticed you spelt with an E?), the label said Siverd and most of the websites say Siverd, what do you reckon Nev can you steer me in the right direction so I can correct my label if I need to? Thanks also for the great advice regarding what pots to use when I eventually start hanging my pups on the galvanised wire fence, I was thinking of using green pots so they blend in with the beautiful green wetland background. I can’t wait to start using the fence for this as I think the pup‘s will get better light and airflow in this area then some of the other areas I have the pups I purchase growing. Pleased to hear you like the NOID pic I posted, yes I agree it does have nice lime coloured foliage, wait to you see a pic of it in flower; the cream flower centre really complements the lime foliage beautifully. I have this one growing in a really shady area between the Avocado and Mango Tree, I purchased it with damage for $5 and brought it back to life, the previous owner had it growing in full sun (go figger); I was surprised at the time that it only had the one burn mark on its leaf given how soft the leaves are on this brom. Thanks for posting pic to compare. Nev I really like your pup pic of Neo Pink River starting to colour up and Neo Marmorata’s beautiful spots. I brought a pot of Neo Marmorata Gold for $5 from a yard sale that had about 5 well grown pups sucking the life out of the mother, I go them home and separated them straight away and put the mother in my brom retirement village and she is doing well and discovered on the weekend that she has pupped again I think for the last time as she only has half a body left the poor thing, broms are amazing the way they can survive even when they look half dead and exhausted. Nev is your Neo Marmorata the same as Neo Marmorato Gold? So Nev not that I want a free Cigar as my smoking days are well and truly over, but I am guessing 1Million broms in that pic just because I wanted to say 1Million because imagine how many broms you could buy with 1Million Dollars lol – LOTS! Nev I luved the pic of your Foster’s Favourite in flower, I got given a couple of the Red Form variety from someone that was going to bin them (sacrilege) and they had a fair bit of sun damage but have come back nicely and have rewarded me with beautiful red handing flowers; I am looking forward to them pupping so I can spread them around the garden and introduce more shades of red in the garden and so they can hang over all the neo’s given they grow nice and tall and the flowers hand and droop down nicely. Pic 4 of your Pineapple doing its own mass production thing is gorgeous and so very different to any of the bromeliads I have in my garden.

Hi Shirley I really liked your picture of Neo Purple Star, yet again another brom posted of my favourite colour (gosh I keep going on about my favourite colour lol). Sorry I do not know the name of the first Pic you posted of Neo Wild Ruby, I will check to see if it is in any of my brom books whilst I am sitting here twiddling my thumbs? Glad to hear you got your extra shade cloth up to protect your broms. I too am really worried how summer is going to impact where I have all my broms, all I can do is keep checking on them, the trouble is by the time I get home from work its rather late, I wish I was home more to keep an eye on them being the protective mum that I am to all my broms lol.

Anyway feel like another sleep, the dogs have decided to join me and must sense that I am not my usual self; they are very protective that way. Lucy keeps coming up to me trying to give me kisses and sometimes I wake up with here right by my side which is nice, she is like my own personal teddy bear makes me feel better having my pal by my side. As they say dogs luv us more than we luv ourselves and take care of us more than we take care of ourselves, I am a big believer in this motto.

Hi Karen, Jen, Tash, Chrissy – how are you guys, hope you are all well, we miss hearing from you all :-)

Take care and look forward to speaking to you all soon, more than likely on the weekend. Have a wonderful week and Happy Gardening!

It's nice and windy here today which is nice as getting a bit of airflow through the house and all the lovely smells from the garden so I sort of feel like I am outside in a way and can hear the tree's leaves blowing which is nice.

Speak soon Trish

A couple of old pics possibly already posted?
Pic 1 Neo Princeps Select
Pic 2 Neo Rosie - another one that someone was going to bin
Pic 3 Ae. Nudicaulis Zebra
Pic 4 Neo Ink Spots
Pic 5 Vr. Pink Cockatoo

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 23, 2012
2:48 AM

Post #9312798

Hi Everyone

Where is everyone, busy in the garden I am guessing or having a well deserved rest from all the gardening :-) See what happens when I am home sick for the day I get bored and annoy everyone in the forum lol. Lucky I am back to work tommorrow or I would be posted more novel threads like above lol.

I managed to pop out and sit in the garden and get some fresh air late this arvo and took a picuture of the NOID that some of you think might be Nidularium Longiflorum, will be interesting to see if you still think the same after seeing it in flower per Pic 1 below?

Would anyone happend to have Neo Amazing Grace (Dark Form)? If you do would you mind posting a picture as apparently the line markings are much darker then the one I have below and I would really like to compare the difference between the two, apparently Dark Form it is not easy to get hold of so I am definelty putting it on my really want list as they bring a bit of difference when placed amoungst other neo's as they really stand out and Dark Form would look even better mixed in with others.

Pic 1 NOID in flower - possibly Nidularium Longiflorum????????
Pic 2 Neo Amazing Grace starting to colour up nicely
Pic 3 Neo Cane Fire flowering
Pic 4 Sweet Heart flowering and just discovered today it's first pup yeah!!!
Pic 5 Torch Ginger flower starting to loose it's lust but still beautiful to look at never the less. I luv my gingers and heliconias as they not only provide me with beautiful flowers but they also cast plenty of shade so I am looking at putting many more bromeliads under them because they are not messy and will not case any damage to my bromeliads.

Anyway speak to you all later.

Happy Gardening!

Trish

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ianperry

October 23, 2012
2:49 AM

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Hi all, A cloudy and windy day here. Some plants blown over but not much more damage. I broke up another coulpe of plants and did a bit of watering. I have been watching Ananas and wondered where I could get seed from them and thought maybe from the little pinapples growing out of the lower section of the fruit. I don't know it that is possible. I have never seen seed pods on any Ananas. The flowers come out from the lower section.
Green tree snakes main diet is frogs, frogs and more frogs, but they must be small enough to swallow.
We all seem to look for ideas for hanging plants on walls and come up with similar ideas. I use aluminium wire bought from scrap metal recyclers, collected from overhead power wires. I made some to fit on slats or fence palings, some just "s" hooks and some to work on mesh. I will try to put up some piccies tomorrow night of the ones I make for myself.
Everyone has beautiful plants tonight, thanks for sharing them with me.
Now for some piccies
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ananas tricolour with extra fruit.
Pic 2 N Grace X passion
Pic 3N Midnight or Voodoo grown in lots a light
Pic 4N Midnight maroon form grown in lots a light
Pic 5 N Aussie opal

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perke_patch

October 23, 2012
3:00 AM

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Hi everyone
we had an early break today as Kerry, the nurse was coming to give Johnny his infusion at 4:30. wow inside by 4:30 and nothing to do but watch TV and check the computer. I downloaded yesterdays pics.
Nev that pawpaw ointment is supposed to be really great for arthritis pain. Johnny's 2 sisters both swear by it and get regular delivery of it. so far we haven't got around to getting some but have used it at his sister Bev's place. It's was being made in a backyard in Hervey Bay but the man has now upgraded to a factory at Childers (I think that's where he moved to). I heard that he is now selling to one of the pharmacy chains so you might find it somewhere down there otherwise you can order it from their website which I don't have but can get if you can't find it. I'll ask Bev to send it to me anyway and I might even get Johnny some.

Sue I was going to say that platynema x hieroglyphica looked like it came from a top mother but then to read that it is a seedling from Nev. wow you got a special one with those wide leaves and super shape. when she grows up and has pups please put Johnny's name down for one of them for sure.

Visitors just walking in so I'll pop in later to add some more.

Wendy
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 23, 2012
3:05 AM

Post #9312809

Hi Everyone!

Yes I know it's me again...

Quick pic of a relatively small Python about to eat a Possum in our backyard taken last year - poor Possum...

And just found a cute picture taken last summer of Lucy going for a smim on her boggie board, she is just so talented my special baby, her favourite thing in the whole wide world is the swimming pool and her boggie board lol.

Trish

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 23, 2012
3:39 AM

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Hi everyone, still windy here today and a lot cooler than it has been lately. Isn’t the weather odd for spring, one day 30+ degrees and the next day it’s cold … but still no rain here.

Trish, hope you are feeling better now. Love your little neo Ink Spots.

Not feeling great myself tonight, bit of a migraine, so I’ll attach a few pics and call it a night.

Pic 1 neo Pink River taken a few months back, I think I remember seeing it in flower now
pic 2 neo Ring Leader for Bree, pic 3 nid Longiflorum for Trish pic 4 neo Strictly Princeps, one of my favourites, pic 5 neo Sundays Sister, another favourite

Catch up tomorrow, Shirley.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 23, 2012
4:20 AM

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Trish funny you mention Amazing Grace as i was just looking into purchasing one..i love it! and Cane Fire..i feel like i have to buy one of these as we're surrounded by cane(not to close) and i love when they burn, looks so cool the fires so bright and doesn't last long.
Love Midnight, its a smaller brom isnt it?
Shirley your Pink River is like Nevs so mine mustnt be it i think. Thanks for the ring leader pic. I do love them last to you posted also.
1. See mines not pink River hey? its a small pup though. 2. umm whats this one? something Tiger...its a pretty small grower, not blushing tiger isnt that more pinker and with more marks. 3. Shelldance, i always wonder why its centre doesnt hold much water like most other broms.

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perke_patch

October 23, 2012
5:00 AM

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Hi again.
Ian last time were were down at Ross Little's at Ballina he was talking about the ananas flowering and I said that I had never seen a flower on one and where do they come out? he found one flowering and I was amazed where they were. have a look on the pineapple where the sections puff out there's a brown bit??? well that brown bit is a spent flower and that's also where the seeds form. I wonder if they are are round seeds like a neo??? I didn't ask that question. I'll have to ask tomorrow as we are going down to Ballina again. I'm going to get some tillandsias and an orthophytum burle marxii. we're going down for some more alcantareas and minis but have to find something for me don't I? he said he has the burle marxii and I've wanted one since I saw one in flower at Catlans. wonder if I have a pic of it? I'll check now. nope must be on the old disk.

anyway I'm off to bed so we can be off early to head south.

Pic 1 is my red epi out now. there's heaps of these lovely big red things down the backyard. can't wait for another colour to come out now.
Pic 2 is my first pitcairnia flower. it is on rhubarb x bromniartianum.
Pic 3 is my next pitc flower coming on andreana. I keep checking the others to see if I can find another one happening but not yet.

Night all
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 23, 2012
4:25 PM

Post #9313447

Hi everyone – Wow look at all the reading to do, I must get into it. It's still only 5.00 am as I start this so it's too dark to see what the weather is going to do today but I didn't hear any rain last night so it will probably be fine.

Trish – Gee your keyboard must be just about overheating with all of the typing you've done. Now you come up with an interesting fact about a big green frog eating a little tree snake; I never thought they would do that as I thought they'd take off as soon as they saw a snake, maybe he's getting even for the fact that tree snakes eat the cane toads.

What you could possibly do to stop the fertiliser falling from the pups on the fence onto the plants below, is to move the plants below, forward enough so the fertiliser drips behind them. Alternatively you could put a length of plastic guttering along behind the plants below to catch the fertiliser and run the fertiliser to the end of the garden. The guttering could be painted a green colour so it blends in and isn't obvious.

What you say about the leaves is very true; we whinge when they drop on the ground and we have to clean them up, but we are grateful for the shade they provide during the hot weather. I remember when I was a kid at school we were told all about composting and taught to take an example from the Chinese market gardeners who wasted nothing, what wasn't composted, went into the liquid manure drums. There was a small group of Chinese market gardeners near Wollongong at that time who always composted all the leaves that fell on their land along with all of trimmings from the vegetables they would prepare to take to market. At the end of each row they also had a large drum of liquid manure made from “chook poop” and other stuff such as food scraps and weeds that weren't composted. The manure came from chooks (we must call them chickens now like everything else that's becoming Americanised) at a relatives poultry farm at Albion Park a few miles further south. All of the waste products were put to good use and the vegetables were fantastic quality. As well as selling vegetables at the markets, these people would exchange with each other; their vegetables for eggs and poultry manure. These days they make such a big deal about composting and re-cycling one would think it's something new and not something that was done years ago mainly out of necessity.

You're quite right, the name of your plant is “Siverd” and not “Severd” as I mistakenly spelled it (I'm not much on spelling) and just for the record, it's from Neo. 'Takemura Princeps' x Neo. 'Fantastic Gardens/QBT' and registered in 1978, so it's not a new one either.

It's beginning to sound more and more like your NOID is Nid. longiflorum as the flowers always start out cream and then change to red (like the pic I posted Oct 21st) as they get older.

As for your question about your Neo 'Mamorata Gold', I can't answer that as I don't know Neo. 'Mamorata Gold'. There are so many plants around now with the name Neo. Mamorata it's hard to say which are correctly named and which are not. It seems that every NOID with similar markings seems to get the Neo Mamorata tag whether it's correct or not. I currently have about six different “alleged” Neo mamorata ranging in size from a compact form which is eight inches across to a large spreading form of about a thirty inch spread. It is possible they could all be different forms of Mamorata but I doubt it. However that's the name that was on them when I got them so there it stays until proved otherwise. The true Neo mamorata is a species and like all species should be spelled in all lower case italic lettering e.g. Neo mamorata. I'm just as guilty as everyone else as I still always put a capital at the start of the name (I guess it's a hangover from my tech. drawing days when I was an apprentice).

With Ae. Foster's Favourite, I find I get a nicer darker shiny burgundy colour if it's grown in a lower light area and a friend once had it growing alongside Ae fasciata together with some ferns, and it looked great as the silvery leaves of the Ae fasciata really complemented the burgundy leaves of the Foster's Favourite and the berries of the Foster's Favourite took on an iridescence which made them seem to glisten . As a general rule, plants with burgundy coloured leaves require less light than the green leaf types; also these plants are more prone to excessive heat and cold damage if grown in an unprotected area.

As usual, you have posted some nice pic's again, and just out of interest, did everyone know that Neo 'Inkspots' was the result of two species being crossed together, Neo smithii x Neo pauciflora?

As for your question about Neo Amazing Grace (Dark form), I have found that Amazing Grace is still a bit unstable and the dark form often reverts back to the light form and visa versa. Because of this you often get a lot of colour variations in between. I'll post a pic tomorrow of a “mother” of my best (dark form) for comparison.

Looking at your pic No.1, I am almost certain that it's Nid. Longiflorum which just for the record was once called Nid. innocentii var. wittmackianum.

I really like the pic of your Neo 'Cane Fire', it has a beautifully coloured centre and another one I have to add to the ever growing “wish list”.

I've always thought I'd like to try growing gingers in my garden but I don't know how they'd go as I never see any in the local area nor the nurseries. Do you have any cultural tips? Probably better D-Mail, me otherwise I'll be in trouble for hi-jacking the forum.

I just saw your last lot of pic's and I think your little Jack Russell is a pretty talented little dog.

Ian – That's a nice looking ananas, we can't grow them well down here unfortunately as it gets too cold in the winter, but we can still get them in the fruit shop and eat them! As for the seed, I seem to remember reading a thread about growing them from seed on an old forum a few years back and judging from the pic's, the seed was larger than acanthostachys seed and seemed easily grown, but I don't remember how it's harvested.

Are your two plants of Midnight both from the same mother plant? Why I ask is that there are two forms listed on the FCBS Photo Index; a very dark form hybridised by Wurthmann, E. with no parents given, and second Neo 'Midnight' of similar colour to your pic No 4 and which was hybridised by Grace Goode and is Neo. Tristis x Neo. Concentrica.

You won't be disappointed with your Neo Aussie Opal, it will grow into a beautiful plant and is a hybrid made by Bob Larnach who made the famous Aussie Dream series.

Wendy – I'm on the trail of the Paw Paw cream, I found the site yesterday and was looking at a video about it but the speakers on my computer aren't real good and I had a bit of trouble hearing it clearly. From what I could make out though. It's wonderful stuff and fixes “coughs, cold and sore ar.. holes” and one of our local pharmacies was listed as one of the outlets, so I'll just have to find out whether or not there's anything in it that will interact badly with other stuff I'm taking.

The vriesea seedling that Sue posted a pic of came from seed I got from Ken Woods in Sydney and was supposed to be from very good parents, however, I always seem to give the wrong ones away, but then that's the chances you take with seedlings and as I've said before, it's a bit like getting a lottery ticket.

Shirley – That's great pic showing the colour of the Nid. longiflorum, and although the small white flowers are short lived the eye catching red bracts remain in colour for many months.

I hope you're feeling better by tomorrow and feel more like jumping out into the brom's and doing some “pottering”.

Breeindy – I can't speak for the others but my Neo Midnight is only about ten or twelve inches across, so I guess that qualifies it as one of the smaller types. As for your ?'Tiger', well it could be any one of a number of different ones and you'll probably have to wait until it flowers to get it ID'd but in the meantime you can look up http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?fields=Name&id=7792&search=tiger to see pictures of the different ones that are registered, but as we all know, there's probably just as many that aren't registered.

Neo Shelldance seems to be a bit different to most Neo's in a few things, read what the BCR has to say about it:
“From Shelldance Nursery CA Note added 2/2012. Questions asked at a Brom Soc of South Australia meeting about the odd looking inflorescence suggests this may be a xNeotanthus hybrid. There is no proof but doubt was expressed in Andrew Steen’s book 'Bromeliads - the Connoisseur's guide', published 2007, in comments made on page 230. - “some people think it may be an intergeneric cross between a Neoregelia and a Cryptanthus. However, I suspect that it is simply an extreme variation of 'Fairy Paint’. While this is unusual, it is not unheard of, with N. 'Burnsie's Spiral' being one fairly common example. These types of plant almost never flower but continue to put out new leaves, eventually forming a stem that may reach 50cm or more in height. I have a tissue culture sport of N. 'Purple Star' which is almost identical in form and appearance to N. Shelldance, the only difference being in the colour.” We will leave this as a Neoregelia because that is how it appears in collections throughout Australia.”

Well that's about it for today and now for a few pic's; 1 is Neo. 'Lambert's Pride' x 'Treasure Chest', 2 is Neo Carcharodon x Concentrica, 3 is Neo 'Nina Rehak', 4 is Neo. 'Lambert's Pride' x ['Charm' x 'Cracker Jack'] and 5 is Neo. 'Orange Glow'

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 23, 2012
8:25 PM

Post #9313666

Hello all.
I had an early start this morning and haven't had time to drop in until now.
Phew!
Really windy here all night monday night, and all day tuesday. A whole bench of broms was upended onto the gravel, a wheel barrow full was upended onto the lawn, and a HUGE terracotta pot, with an Androlepis skinnerii was blown off a table and completely upside down on top of the plant! There were large gum branches, (and still are) through the garden, and lots of plants lying down, which, now that the wind has died somewhat, I can stand back up again.
There was a little bit of rain overnight (2mm). Whoopdy doo! Every bit counts. I raked up the garden paths today, and filled the greenwaste bin, which was emptied already, so i will do a bit more this afternoon, when it cools down.
Nev, I have found another couple of burned broms in the garden, but they have pups, so all is not lost. My skills as a gardener have come about due to much trial and error! I cannot tell you how many things I have planted, dug up, then replanted! It becomes clear when you have chosen the wrong position fairly early, but these days i am wiser. dig the hole ONCE! As for the nice Vriesea seedling. It started off with really wrinkly leaves, and an odd, one sided shape, but as its grown (and it has been slow) it seems to have come good. I like the wide leaves.
Wendy, johnny can certainly have a pup in a couple of years time! heh heh.
Nev, I love your picture of the pineapple, how unusual. I like Ians pineapple too, and wonder if those aren't pups forming at the bottom of the fruit. I've never looked into growing them from seed, as they seem easy to grow from the tops.
Trish, i hope you are feeling better, and managed to get back to work. i agree with Nev, and think your Nidularium flower will turn from cream, to pale pink, then to red. I also think Nevs idea with the gutter, or a half PVC pipe would channel the fertiliser away from the bottom Neos well. You could place a bucket at the end and reuse the fertiliser on your garden.
As for me having heaps of room for broms, yes there is, but I am wary of having them too close together, and they get a bit mangled with gum branches. I planted the tree ferns and Bangalow palms to catch the falling branches and provide shade, which works quite well, but the garden has our biocycle pumping out at various places through out, so I have to choose my plant positions according to what likes water. So its not ideal for the neos in many cases, but the Alcants and Vrieseas don't mind a moist possie.
I like gingers and heliconas too, and recently received some lovely torch gingers, like the one you posted, from a good friend up in Tully. It remains to be seen if they will flourish here, as they might sulk with the climate change. i have given them the best possible start though, so we'll see.
I have a couple of N. 'Amazing Grace' dark forms in the garden, but noticed that they don't have as many stripes of lime, as I'd like. They are past their best, so i won't photograph them, but hopefully there will be good pups to follow. i will let you know if that comes about, and if you haven't already got one by then, i am happy to send one your way. As Nev said, they are quite unstable.
Shirley, as a sufferer of migraines in the past, i feel for you, and hope it didn't develop into a full blown migraine. Yes the weather has been weird, and makes it hard to get into a garden routine. Your Neo. 'Pink River' is a pretty thing.
Bree, my N. 'Midnight' is a medium sized Neo, about the same as a Caroline 'Tricolour' I guess.
Your 'Pink River' looks a bit like my N. 'Running Red River' and the tigery one certainly looks like it could be Blushing Tiger, as it only colours up with light and maturity. It can be quite orange.
Well, I'd better go find my SD card and see if there is anything on there to show you. I must work out how to get my photos from my big computer onto this one.
photo one is Guzmania 'Hilde' in the garden
Photo two is looking over the edge of the front stairs , at the top is a NOID, below it is Aechmea mexicana, below it is Neo. 'Exotica velvet' (pups) and beside that is the flowering Billbergia red form and in the tree fern to the very right is the flower of Aechmea 'dart'
Photo three is Guzmania 'Candy Corn'
Photo four is looking over the front veranda onto a bunch of Aechmea nudicaulis varieties, tied onto the tree fern. One is flowering, but there are diiferent types, so get flowers at different times.
Photo five is a join on to the garden shot in my last post (joins on the left) from the left is Alc. 'Silver Plum', Alc 'Brasiliana' coming into flower, Alc. helouisae and Alc. imperialis rubra.
Ok, better go spell check and send
Sue





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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

October 24, 2012
3:14 AM

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Goodness me, you all have been having a good old gas-bag. I wish that we could all sit around the outside table under the big old Norfolk Island Pine and do that. I met up with one of the newbies in the tea room last week. She relieved me of lots of succulents and bits and pieces. She stayed over night with her two little dogs and we talked and talked. It was lovely. It has been a lovely day although it did get a bit warm this afternoon. The Bl--- wind has come up again. It's blowing things around outside. I can hear it and the wind chimes are going ten to the dozen. Sue your garden looks so lovely. A friend and I were having a chat today about how I've got bits of this shoved in here and a different coloured one of the same thing over there and I said that's how I like a garden. A different surprise around every turn. She likes all her plants of the same together. She has 7 acres of scrub and cleared land and has planted about 2 acres up with garden. She has natives all in the same area and Irises and Roses and trees dotted here and there. She has benches to sit on and bits of lawn here and there and it's great but I still like my little piece of Paradise. I have a pic of mini skirt and pheasant to show. They came from Sue, so hope I'm growing them well Sue. Have a great night all. Colleen

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ianperry

October 24, 2012
4:15 AM

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Hi all, just a quick visit tonight to show the developement of my hanging hooks.
I start with a piece of pipe,pvc is fine and bend a piece of wire around it like in the left sample. Then I bend the tail at 90degrees as in second of pic then bens a hook to desired length and trim the rest off. Simple really. Fencing wire is OK and so is aluminium wire. The tools I use are a pair of pliers and my hands.
Have a good one
Ian

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 24, 2012
4:51 AM

Post #9313791

Sue heres red river compaired to what i have tagged as pink river. There both young though.

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perke_patch

October 24, 2012
6:34 AM

Post #9313860

Hi everyone.
well we had a lovely day at Ross Little's place and I got some special stuff for me as well as some things for us for stock. right at the end I caught sight of a couple of flowering plants in the front garden. they turned out to be guzvrisea with wittmackii as one of the parents. believe me the colour and shapes were spectacular. anyhow I was lucky enough that Ross had pups potted up so yes I got one of each. so excited about that. I also got a selection of tillandsias and lucky for me there are several that I don't have yet so they will go into my collection and the rest can be into stock. I took some pics but was so excited by the guzvriseas I forget to get a pic. go figure huh???? maybe Ross will take pics and email them to me. Oh and I got a small pup of ortho burle marxii. so glad he had a spare one but he says they seem to go as fast as they produce them so I was fortunate there was a pup still on mum waiting for me. we got some little grass pups of cross between 2 an alcantareas. can't remember what they are but I'll get the name tomorrow when we pot them up.

Ian I love your plant hangers. we have some similar ones here but the ones I like have 3 rings at different heights around the central hook. they are great for hanging seedlings and I think they take 4 or 5inch pots. when the plants get too big they encroach on each others space but for seedlings just perfect. I'm thinking I'll definately use them for my billbergia seedlings. unfortunately the guy who used to make them died and nobody can work out how to wind them. I'm sure if Johnny puts his mind to it he will work it out somehow. apparently Barry Kable has the man's jig but can't work it out. I'll take a pic tomorrow and somebody might be able to work something out.

Colleen I love those 2 minis you posted. I have both of them and love the shape and colour. Sue your gardens are looking spectacular as always. love the hilda grown in the garden.

hello to everyone else and Nev I have that neo you said you wanted. I'll scroll back through this thread and find the other one I promised to send you and will parcel them up soon. I also have to send some seed to Shirley. oh and I hope Shirley and Trish are felling better now.

I'm off to bed and I'll download and post some pics tomorrow night from our trip today.

Nght all
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

October 24, 2012
12:02 PM

Post #9314161

Hi everyone - Just a very brief message today (from a different computer), just to say that I'm having a computer malfunction where I can't start the bloody thing. I switch it on and everything starts as normal, but then a blue screen with white writing comes up with various options on how to start it e.g. "start windows normally", "safe mode", "safe mode with prompt" and a couple of others I don't remember. When I select one of these, the cycle starts all over again and it's just like going around in circles. I've tried various things and finally had to turn it off at the power point to shut it down. I switched the power back on again and tried again, but still the same result. It looks like a trip to the computer doctors today so I'll be off the air for a while. Keep up the good work and I'll post again when I get my computer back.

A big get well soon to anyone on the sick list and to the rest of you,

All the best, Nev.
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 24, 2012
12:51 PM

Post #9314197

Morning all . I am going to put my phot descriptions first so they are alongside the photos when you look.
Photo one is my N. 'Running Red River'
Photo two is N. 'Jewellery Shop' which would have looked better if grown a little harder.
Photo three is where my Nidularium longiflorum flower is up to today
Photo four is one from Jen. Neo 'Ashanti' i wonder if it flushes?
Photo five is a NOID I got as a big green plant. The first one i gave alot of light to and it went yellow with red lightning strips, and this is the pup. It looks as though it might be starting to flush for flowering, and I'm sure it starts pink and fades to purple. I have tried for an ID in the past, from various sources, but no luck as yet. Someone suggested 'Gee Whizz' but, although similar to what i have as 'gee Whizz' I don't think it is.

Gee Nev, I can't believe you are having computer problems again! I hope it get sorted soon, as your last post was definitely not long enough!
Colleen, so good to hear from you. Was the newbie a local lady, or passing through. Its nice to meet someone in person that you met online, and they never fail to disappoint. I've met lots of awesome people through DG. Your N. 'Pheasant' looks great and N. 'Miniskirt' but one is a little greener than the other (miniskirt?) and could do with a tad more light. I'm sure you will be getting that as the season warms up! I know what you mean about the other garden. i have tried having an Aechmea garden, a neo garden and an Alcantarea garden, but other genus just sneak in. It easier to have plants that like the same conditions, rather than plants of the same type, and some things just compliment each other. I've also noticed i am a 'Row' planter, and seem to plant borders and rows of the same thing. Where did that come from? Anyway, as long as you are enjoying your garden, that's all that matters!
Ian, well done on the hangers. I have only attempted making 's' hooks to hang plants from, but have the odd wire hanger from different places. i will see if i remember to get a pic of a couple. When I looked at your photo with the original post, it almost looked like a pair of spectacles! So i had to take a closer look! heh heh
Bree, your two pups look very similar, but i can see a more pinkish tone in the second one. I guess you will just have to learn to love it with a name or not? Maybe when its older it will become clear?
Wendy, lucky you to get some nice things for yourself also. You have to look close at Ross's and you will always find something. He didn't have Tillandsias when we were there last. i wonder where they came from?Next time i'm up your way, I'd love to go visit Barry again. He had some great stuff at good prices. i think i have exhausted the selection of Tillandsias from Bunnings and (as far as i know) there isn't a grower in town I can get them from for a reasonable price.
Well, yesterday i discovered lots more burned broms, but hey, no point in crying over it. they are in the garden, and I don't usually put special ones there, and they have pups so will recover in one way or another.

Ok, time to get outside and do something while it is cool.
I hope everyone is well this thursday.
Sue

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

October 25, 2012
2:33 AM

Post #9314741

Hi all, sorry to hear that Trish and Shirley haven't been feeling flash. Hope you are on the mend. Trish, I like your new garden and your Amazing Grace and Canefire are 2 of my favourites. Photo 2 is my Amazing Grace dark form. It's a bit past its best but has good colours. Don't know what the pups will be like yet. As everyone says they're pretty variable. Photo 3 is my dog who's also a mad boogie board rider. Pool is gone now. It's now my shadehouse. Shirley, lovely photo of Nid Longiflorum. It's a real eyecatcher
Nev, that blue screen doesn't sound good so hopefully your computer doc will be able to set things right. I like your Neo hybrids. Are they your crosses? Colleen it's good to see you posting again. Good colours in your minis.
Wendy I can't wait to see photos of your new babies. Sounds like it was a top day. Am quite green with envy.
Sue, your Neo Ashanti has a lot of colouring up to do yet. As you can see from Photo 1 it goes quite purple. I like your noid no.5. It's got a really compact shape.
Bree you have some lovely Neos. Especially like your Shelldance. Could the Tiger noid be Pink Tiger?
Ian, your rings should work well. Wendy has a lot in their garden and they look great.
I was very excited on Tues. night to collect seed from my first planned Bill. cross, Moon Tiger x sanderiana. I got seed on both plants so it will be fun to see what happens. Have been out the last few nights twiddling cotton buds in my flowering Vrieseas. Hopefully in 12 months I should some some nice seeds but goodness knows what I'm going to do with them all. I'm off outside to do some more matchmaking.
Photo 4 is Neo Canefire and Photo 5 is my Neo Blast doing strange things. It has been getting whiter over the last 12 months but still looks healthy. Don't know how long it can stay white and still grow. Night all, Jen

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

October 25, 2012
2:38 AM

Post #9314742

Couldn't resist posting this photo from Kerry Tate showing a baby Frogmouth baffled about what Mum is doing looking like a branch. Gorgeous garden too. Jen

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ianperry

October 25, 2012
3:15 AM

Post #9314749

Hi all, another dry day here and the wind has reduced, still knocking plants over so I just might have to treat them like dogs and tie them up. Well put some supportive ties on them anyway. I planted some more seed yesterday and mounted a couple of plants on trees today. I also treid a multiple hanger today but it has room for improvement. i got the effect I wanted but it is untidy. I will keep trying til I get it reasonable. Then I have some forceps to make to remove leaves out of Aechmeas and any deep leaved plants.
Nev to answer your question about Midnight, no the plants each come from different growers in different towns. @ are 10" to 12" across and the third is a little smaller but is also younger. That is the one with a stripe that i posted a month or 2 ago.
Have a good one
ian
Pic 1 Ae bought as bracteata but seems different to fcbs piccie
Pic 2 Til capitata var domingoensis
Pic 3 Ae nudicaulis var in flower
pic 4 Til streptophylla
Pic 5 Ananas red star beside a 1kg pack of whiskas cat food for size comparison

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ianperry

October 25, 2012
3:17 AM

Post #9314753

That Ae bracteata is a tricolour, forgot the colour first time.
Ian
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 25, 2012
3:20 AM

Post #9314754

Hi Everyone

Quick post tonight, promise I will chat with you ALL properly over the weekend when I have a bit more time up my sleeve. Thanks for the get well soon wishes, feeling much better thanks and pleased the weekends just around the corner. Hope your feeling much better Shirley, I too suffer from Migranes so know exactly how you feel, best thing to do is rest and sleep it off in the darkest possible room, when I get them I pretty much loose my vision and have to stay home until it passes, when I get them bad I throw-up a lot and get very bad blood noses which releases some of the pressure in my head, but sometimes I need to go in for a jab to stop throwing up, sorry not a nice topic for conversation so hears a few brom pics to make things all better lol.

Speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Hope these Pics do not get mixed-up after I post thread, cross my fingers they dont'?

Pic 1 Neo. Green Apples (old pic, it has coloured up heaps since)
Pic 2 Vr. Hawaiian Rainforest x Emerald Meadows
Pic 3 Neo. Manoa Beauty - my one takes a fair bit of light and is doing well as has grown heaps since this photo
Pic 4 - Vr. Milky Way
Pic 5 - Vr. Maroon Shadow

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 25, 2012
3:57 AM

Post #9314767

Hi everyone, feeling lots better now, thanks. A bit cooler today and not as windy but what a mess to clean up, sticks, leaves, branches and bark everywhere.

Bree, my neo Pink River is in flower so should have pups shortly if you want me to keep one for you.

Sue, I get very few migraines these days, fortunately, and I have learned to manage them pretty well. Let me know if you would like a neo Pink River pup also. Here I am giving them away … counting my ‘pups’ before they hatch!! Can’t believe how many of my neos are in flower.

I also have a NOID which is quite similar to your pic 5, Sue, which someone suggested to me could be neo Gee Whizz. I do have a couple of gee whizzes, both quite different from this NOID and from each other as well. I’ll post a pic of the NOID. I like your neo Running Red River. Sorry to hear you have found more burned broms but you are very philosophical about it, I’d be quite devastated.

Colleen, I can just imagine our little group sitting around under your Norfolk Island pine and gas-bagging. Be pretty hard to get a word in I reckon … but it would be great, hey.

Wendy, glad to hear you got some special stuff for yourself from Ballina … not sure where you’re going to put them, but good on you. Looking forward to getting the seeds but no hurry, whenever you get around to it is fine.

Nev, so sorry to hear you are having computer problems again. Hopefully, you’ll be back in action again soon. I had something similar happen to mine once and it was a fairly simple fix … it had to be reset to an earlier date, before the problem occurred. Wouldn’t it be good if we could reset the old body to a time prior to when all the aches and pains set in.

Jen, nice pics, I especially like the white in your neo Blast, very pretty. And what a great photo of the Frogmouth Mum and bub.

Ian, I like your Ae Bracteata tricolour and your Ae Nudicaulis but looking at your pic 4, I thought my migraine had returned. Ananas Red Star is cute.

Trish, glad to hear you’re feeling better. Like you said, a quiet, dark room, a couple of pills and sleep off a migraine. Computer screens and colour televisions are definite no no’s along with light and noise. Anyway, all better now. You certainly have some lovely broms. Neo Manoa Beauty is probably my favourite, along with Old Love Letters. Vr Milky Way is still on my wish list along with quite a few others.

Pic 1 is my NOID for Sue, pics 2 and 3 are my favourite neos Manoa Beauty and Old Love Letters, pic 4 is my Ae Bracteata for Ian.

That’s it for me now, bye
Shirley


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perke_patch

October 25, 2012
5:58 AM

Post #9314819

Hi everyone.
Sue Ross orders the tills from Chris at Collectors Corner, in large quantities... I think he said 300 at a time so he gets them cheaper than we could for smaller number. anyway I gave him $100 and asked him to get me a mixture of tills for that. I got 25 which makes them $4 each. Out of that 25 there's about 6 or 7 that I haven't got and will keep myself. The only thing was I really wanted a number of ionantha and this time Chris only sent about 4 ionantha in the whole 300 so I couldn't get the number I need for the project I have been asked to create for a guy. I'm going to have to climb out tree and get some from our clumps. Isn't it awful to have a several large clumps and not be prepared to take any of them when someone wants some??? don't want to ruin the effect do we??? ah well should be able to peel off 6 or 8 in a way that nobody will notice.

Ian pic 1 is the hanger we bought with multiple rings. pic 3 is the same hanger with a couple of plants in it. as I said I use these for small seedlings. at present they have seedlings of vr splendens I think. I've also included pic 2 which is the totem rings that Johnny has been making. this is actually an area that Johnny scrapped this week and redid. the totem is gone now and he has made or modified new shelves and the area is now a guzmania and foliage vrisea area. he keeps takiing over my neo areas for his stuff. he has just decided he is going to build up his collection of guzmanias... the bigger the better. He does like those big ones even if they don't have names. and the variegated ones he love also.

now lets see which pic loads first. from memory I chose the neomea fraka rosea that I got from Ross. discovered this in the garden on the way out so he dived into the clump and came out with a plant roots & dirt attached with a flower coming. the last pic I chose I just had to share with you. we were sitting on the back deck enjoying a cuppa and I was sitting sideways on the chair so I could look down the yard when I caught a movement out of the corner of my eye. I turned to the back of the chair and nearly died at this leg coming over the top. It turned out to be this big guy in the last pic. scared the hell out of me but Johnny just put his hand out and it climbed on board. he took it down the yard and put it in a fairly thick bushy tree. he didn't want our pet magpies having him for lunch. Oops made a mistake the pic 4 is a closeup of my first pitcairnia flower. it is pitcairnia rhubarb x brongniartianum (hope that spelling is correct... sure that's the way is sounds) I'll have to do another post for the ross pics.

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perke_patch

October 25, 2012
6:05 AM

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pic 1 is the neomea freka rosea plant I brought home. just goes to show that John Buchanan was way ahead and crossing genera way back in 1990s before any of us every heard of them. that's 3 of his xgenera that I got from Ross this time. Unfortunately his labels only said guzvrisea so I'll have to ask Ross for the names. the labels in front of the plants in the gardens had the names of the cross.

next 3 pics are of dykia naked lady firstly the flower spike and then the clump of naked ladys and finally a closeup of 1 spike. when Ross said to Johnny to come and have a look at his naked lady Johnny jumped up and followed quickly. think he was disappointed it was only a dykia. hahahaha.

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perke_patch

October 25, 2012
6:27 AM

Post #9314848

had to share these 2 pics of this massive guzmania in Ross's garden. the pic of the plant has my foot in the pic to show just how large the plant is. he didn't have any pups though so I'll have to go back until I get one. it is gus testudinensis splendida x albo rosea.

just to finish off the group the next 3 are of Ross's flowering epi / cactus plants flowering. he had colour everywhere in these baskets but these were the best colours.

Anyway time for bed now. we've had a very big day potting all our bare pups we brought home. I think I potted up 8 trays today ... 20 aechmea chianti most of them in flower ... brilliant colours similar to ae rajah (or electra it used to be called), 20 imperialis rubra that came out of 1 inch tubes but good sized, another 12 small seedlings alc whyanbeel x glazouiana and the pups we took off the large extensas we brought home. tomorrow I have 3 bags of mini neos to pot up and a bag of vrisea pups. Oh and today I also potted up 10 Alan Ladd hybrids of a variegated mini called fallen. anyway I put all of them into a hanging basket to multiply for us. they look like they might be a smaller version of rosy fireball.

Shirley I will post your seeds I promise and Nev I will get you a pup of canefire and whatever the other one you said you wanted and will post you a parcel including a packet of stamps as you seem to spend more on postage of seeds than I do. I haven't had much success in crossing neos as I haven't worked out how to identify the ones crossed. will have t come up with a way of IDing them so I am grateful for any neo crosses you send me. Oh and it was good that you posted a pic of your neo carcharadon x concentrica as I had a tray of nice sized ones potted up and growing nicely till I found them yesterday all bitten off at the soil. I looked everywhere for a snail or something and only thing I found was a few of those little bugs that get in the seed trays so wondered if they also bite off the roots of potted up seedlings. I binned the 4 or 5 that were still attached to soil along with the potting mix. I think it may have been 1 block of seed raising mix that was infested with those little bugs. I will admit I have been slack and not zapping the trays in the microwave as I'm not sure how the perlite will go... will it explode if I zap it? my seed mix has perlite mixed in alreay in a bucket with a screw on lid. hopefully that will keep out any bugs.

anyway off to bed now. night all. hope you enjoyed the picks from Wardell. hi to everyone I didn't mention tonight.

Wendy

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 25, 2012
1:09 PM

Post #9315227

Good morning everyone.
It seems all quiet an calm this morning, although there is alot of smoke in the air. There must be a bushfire in the area?
pic one is Neoregelia. 'Inferno'
Pic two is a border of burnt N. 'Satsumas'
Pic three is Neo. 'Barbara' aka 'Barbie Doll'. she fell off the bench in some wind this year, hence the damage.
Pic four is an Epi in the tree
Pic five is for Trish, and shows a pup of N. 'Amazing Grace' dark form, with not many lines at all.
Jen, your N. 'Amazing Grace' dark form has quite nice markings compared to what I have. It will be interesting to see the pups. As for your N. 'Blast' I can see that it has plenty of green in the lower leaves to support the Albinism in the top leaves. I would imagine the only thing to watch out for would be marking from extreme heat or cold? It should still throw a normal pup too, as it will throw from the lower leaves where there is still some green. I have an N. 'Bossa Nova' that produced a half albino plant, which has gone on the produce a fully albino plan, and they are all still attached to the original, which has never flowered. Its been a few years now. I wonder how long it will go on for?
How funny does the little baby owl look in the second pic? Kerry is a very god photographer.
Good luck wth your Billbergia seed raising. If you run out of room, send the best ones down here. ;-)
It looks as though Bucky was a much younger dog in the photo. And who is the other pup? Your son looks much younger also!
Ian, the reason your Ananas 'Tricolor' looks different is because it is variegated and not albomarginated like most. I don't know how rare or common that is, but I imagine you'd be happy with it?
Your Aechmea nudicaulis looks very well, and it has made me realise I must send mine north, as it has never coped well with the cool weather in winter, and will not thrive here. Any takers?
I might keep one pup and put it in the mini hothouse over winter and see how it goes. I'd better go and look at what is there before I go making offers. It might not have survived the winter?
I am sure you will work out how to make a multiple pot hanger, and look forward to seeing the end result, and perhaps purchasing them in the future, if you go that way?
Trish, I'm glad you have recovered. Sounds like you get pretty serious migraines. I've only ever been sick from one once, and had to have the jab. I go blind too, and can't stand smells, good or bad. Dark room, cold flannel cloth, no noise and a good scalp massage doesn't go astray. I don't get a headache anymore (praise the lord) but still get the rest of the symptoms on the rare occasion I get one.
Anyway, I like all your plants, and of them all, I have V. 'Maroon Shadow' and straight V. 'Hawaiian Rainforest'
Shirley, Its good that you have recovered also. Thanks for the offer of an N.'Pink River'. I am happy to wait and see if you get enough pups. You just let me know if you get one spare, and I am sure you will see something here that we can swap. I think I have that same N. 'Gee Whizz' that you have shown. As for being philosophical, I'd be a blubbering mess if I cried every time something in the yard was damaged or died! Living with gum trees has taught me to shrug it off. I just make sure my favourites are well protected.
Wendy, thanks for clearing up my Tillandsia question. I thought maybe Ross had hidden them from me? heh heh. I understand you not wanting to break up your clumps of T. ionantha. It takes a long time to get a good clump, and they look so good.
The Guzmania at Ross's looks enormous! Where on earth will Johnny put a collection of large ones? Lots of lovely pics there, and the Epis sure are bright. I have some hanging in trees around the yard, that are all budded up and about to burst into flower.
Nev, I hope your computer gets well soon. It only took me half as long to read the posts this morning, and I can't answer everyone in as much depth as you. I hope all is well in your yard and with your knees.
Sue

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

October 25, 2012
2:45 PM

Post #9315297

Hi everyone. All this talk about wire hangers. I'll tell you what I did. I had heaps of wire coat hangers here so I soaked them all in vinegar for days and then cut them in halves and bent them into a ring and put a hook on each end and twisted them around. They don't look as professional as all of your's but they do the job so I'm happy. On the larger pots I just straightened 2 hangers out and put a hook either end and crossed them over to make a long hanger. Here's a pic of my Ae Burgundy with large pup and flower coming. Are the flowers cream. It will look so nice if it is in contrast to the plant. Must go. Colleen

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 26, 2012
1:47 AM

Post #9315674

thats awsome Colleen
perke_patch

October 26, 2012
5:04 AM

Post #9315736

hi everyone. this seems to be a regular introduction doesn't it?

Sue the 2nd photo last night of the area Johnny was making over has now become this (see pics). this used to be a neo area but now Johnny has taken it over for his vrisea pups and guzmania collection. see the large ones in the middle? this is his new passion... we are getting quite a few large guzmania now from firedragon to a lot of NOID hybrids. whenever he sees a large one he has to have it. That 1 full sized totem in the before photo has bee cut in 2 and screwed to the open sections of the green shadehouse. Ian, see the new totem rings hubby is now making? they just wrap around the pipe and hold on. no more climbing up to slide another one over the top of the pipe and down.

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perke_patch

October 26, 2012
5:10 AM

Post #9315740

Colleen I love ae burgundy. we have a couple of large clumps of them now. spectacular when you get multiple red/white berry spikes.

Sue I'm buttering Ross up to get into that locked tillandsia shed out the front of his place. I look through from outside each time I go there and have even said to him that one day I'm going to get an invite to look from the inside but so far he hasn't offered. There's some in there that I've never seen before so I'd love to get in and see the names.

NEWSFLASH: I have my first 2 pitcairnias flowering. they are p. rhubarb x bromniartiana (pic 1) and p. andreana (pc 2).

Night all
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 26, 2012
5:41 AM

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Hi everyone, another warm day, another week over, another week without rain … bit of a dust bowl here at the moment.

Wendy, sounds like you had a fantastic brom haul. Do you plan to sell any of the 20 Ae chianti, if so, please keep one for me.

Sue, your neo Inferno is stunning and Barbara too and I think your Amazing Grace is nice, even without a lot of markings. And, if you are still looking for a taker for your Ae Nudicaulis, I am happy to offer it a nice new home.

I moved quite a few of my neos back up to the original shade house now that it is getting a bit of sunlight. During winter the tall gum trees in the park next door throw full shade over it all day long. I have added quite a few to my collection lately and they were getting a bit cramped in the new shade house so an extension will definitely be necessary before next winter.

I will try to find some pics I haven’t posted before …

Pic 1 is neo Wishful, very cute, pic 2 is neo Lamberts Pride, Pic 3 is neo Little Africa, also very cute, pic 4 is neo Bob & Grace

Anyway, that’s it for me, I hope everyone enjoys their weekend.

Shirley



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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 26, 2012
5:43 PM

Post #9316435

Posting this for another Daves member who thought this was a orchid but i think brom. do you's think this is a brom? Them thin leaf ones? i cant think of there names now. A Guzmania?

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 26, 2012
5:52 PM

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just noticed 1. Lila looking very fluro (i just noticed the spider on the leaf), 2. Decora has nice colour also, 3. Shirley heres my Manoa Beauty and what i thought could also be one but its very red, 5. Nev this is the Camerlot you gave me, looking very red and getting a pup.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 27, 2012
2:47 AM

Post #9316685

Hi Everyone!

Hope everyone is well and enjoying the weekend, it’s a gorgeous day her today beautiful and sunny with a nice breeze which kept us nice and cool in the garden. I was very excited to discover today but only with the help of me wearing my glasses and zooming in as close as I could with my camera to see all my vriesea seeds finally germinating (it’s been an exact month since I sowed all the seeds). Now the fun begins keeping them alive. Moved them all into the nursery on their own shelf and also moved my other vriesea seedlings onto the same shelf so that they all get better light and airflow etc. Now I am wondering how long before I take the lids off the takeaway containers where my germinating seedlings are growing, how big do they need to be before I take the lids off? I would appreciate some guidance from anyone who knows what next to do, at the moment I am waiting as it is definitely too early as not all of the seeds have germinated yet (they have only just started to) and I presume they need to be way more established to be able to survive natures everyday elements like sun, wind, rain, bugs etc…..

Spent the remainder of the day potting up recent purchases which I will post some pics of today and went around and gave all my broms a good drenching and a bit of a clean-up.

Joe spent the day re-potting some of his orchids and tending to his orchid seedlings which appear to be doing well as growing.

Hi Shirley thanks for posting pic of Longiflorum, what beautiful colouring it has when it is in flower. I noticed the one I have its flower is starting to change from cream to soft pink so I am keeping an eye on it to see what it does so I can take a picture. Glad to hear you liked my Neo Ink Spots, I can’t wait for it to grow and produce some pups as it would be nice to have them scattered around the garden as they spots are very striking because they have a deep purple tone in them which I adore. I just realised today when walking through the garden that I have Neo Pink River, Red River and Ice White River, but that I am still chasing Running River lol. Are there any other Rivers out there that I should be chasing? Really liked your Pics of Neo Manoa Beauty and Old Love Letters, I will one day look out for Old Love Letters when they time is right and I am not spending all my money on vrieseas lol.

Hi Bree I am glad to hear you really liked Amazing Grace and Cane Fire, I wish mine would hurry up and pup so I could send you some but unfortunately I am still waiting patiently. Have you seen Purple Cane Fire it is really nice and one I want to add to my collection at some stage, plus the fact that purple is my favourite color. Regarding your question re Neo Midnight, it is a medium sized grower. Bree I also have Neo Shelldance and purchased a couple because I liked them that much, I suppose they do not hold as much water in the centre because of the way their leaves twist and turn which in turn reduces the centre area compared to other Neo’s, that’s my guess for the reason why as silly as it might sound lol.

Hi Nev sorry to hear about your dreaded computer problems, hope you get it working again soon as we miss hearing from you and seeing all the beautiful pics you post. Yeah Nev lol I think I did burn out me keyboard the other day typing that many threads in one day, it was nice though having the time to sit and type a thread and not rush getting it done before it gets too late like normally in the week as it does take a bit to type and post what you want but I suppose I am a bit of a chatterbox so I do not make it any easier for myself. Nev luved your idea regarding using a length of plastic guttering below my proposed hanging pup pots so the fertiliser does not drop onto the mature bromeliads below but instead run the fertiliser to the end of the garden and reuse it elsewhere, and to paint the guttering green so that it blends in with nature, you are so full of great ideas Nev and I appreciate you coming up with such a fantastic idea that I reckon we will probably end up doing. Thanks for the additional info on Neo Cliff Siverd too. Nev I will D-Mail you at some stage and send you through some cultural tips on Gingers.

Hi Sue thanks heaps for the tip regarding my proposed pup hanging area and re-using the fertiliser for my garden. Sorry to hear you found more sun damaged broms, at least you know you can still salvage pups from them if you keep them and eventually new leaves will replace the old and they will look beautiful again. I had a friend give me a bunch of broms what got burnt with fertiliser and they looked shocking at the time but over the last couple of months they have grown some now leaves and are starting to look better, in six months’ time they should hopefully be back to normal and producing pups by then. Thanks Sue, yes I am feeling much better thanks and back to work and busy as usual. Glad to hear you like Heliconas and Gingers and have them in your garden, they like a lot of water and chock poo and blood & bone. I have a lot of composted paper, leaf matter around mine and they really luv it. Thanks Sue for the offer of a Neo Amazing Grace Dark Form for when you get some pups, I would very much appreciate one then if you can spare one and hopefully by then I will have pups of my own to share. Sue thanks for posting pics of Neo Amazing Grace Dark Form, really luv that one.

Hi Colleen so great to hear from you , I liked your brom pics and hearing about your friends beautiful garden, your garden sounds like my garden, a bit of everything here and there, a different surprise around every turn. Colleen great idea with soaking the coat hangers and twisting them into hangers for pots I never thought of that.

Hi Ian thanks for posting pics of the hangers you make, they are great and we are going to look at making a batch of them in prep for hanging my pups on the fence. I am in the process of looking at stocking up on these hangers and getting enough smaller pots they I have them stored and ready for when I need them.

Does anyone know of a really good supplier to buy plastic pots in bulk?

Hi Jen feeling much better thanks, pleased to hear you like my new brom garden bed and Neo Amazing Grace and Cane Fire. Really like your Amazing Grace Dark Form, the bands are so much stronger than the usual. Thanks for sharing beautiful pic of your beautiful boogie board rider, how gifted are they when they just take up a hobby of their own without pressuring them into learning to do something they do not want to do. My Jack Russell Lucy learnt by herself and I was just there to check she does not drown, she also treadmills by herself or with me which is great because like me she needs the exercise lol. Jen I really liked your Pic 5 Neo Blast doing strange things, I really luv the white, something different. Jen that Frogmoth Pic is Amazing!

Hi Wendy thanks heaps for posting pics of the multi hangers; they would be very useful in our nursery. Really liked your pics of Dykia Naked Lady what gorgeous flowers they are. Wendy really liked pics of your nursery, the wonderful hangers and your NEWSFLASH broms flowering, how beautiful everything looks. You guys sound like you have been very busy indeed in the garden potting up broms, how quickly does’ the day go undertaking such a simple but enjoyable task.

Hi Karen, Tash, Chrissy – how are you guys, hope you are all well we miss hearing from you all :-)

Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Vr. Seedings Germinating (you will need to look real close lol)
Pic 2 Vr. Snow of Mauna Kea
Pic 3 Vr. Dark Knight
Pic 4 Neo. McWilliamsii x Blood Streak
Pic 5 Neo Black Out

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ianperry

October 27, 2012
3:45 AM

Post #9316692

Hi all, another dry and windy day here. The wind did not blow any plants over so that is a bonus. I tried to cross my mauve centred toothy concentrica with fancy pants today both ways. It is now in the lap of the gods as to what happens. What I am looking for with this cross is a mauve centred dark outer leafed Neo. I went to Bunnings today and looked at the broms, 1 interested me a bit. It looks like a dark outer leaf form of Tangerine still misshapen from packing. It is still there. I bought a chainsaw instead and some bunching palms felt it's bite. They are getting too congested and dropping fronds where i want some of my broms. Thin out time.I did nothing with my hooks today but thought about them a bit. The ones I have seen don't look too hard to make.
I looked closely at Coleen's Ae burgundy and can see a lot of Ae Mirlo in it. The naturally shiny leaves and also the dimples in it as well. This could be coming from the breeding.
Bree, your plant does not look like an orchid to me but with the red stripes on the underneath it does have the characteristics of being a Guzmania. It also has soft bodied scale on it.Love lila, mine didn't colour up that well but that could have been because of the light.
Shirley Little Africa will darken up quite a lot in a lot of light, almost as dark as Mandella.
Sue, it looks like DG got hold of your piccies, thought they were a deck of cards and shuffled the pack. Ah well just gives me something to winge about.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Ananas tricolour multi head and multi fruit
Pic 2 N mini fireball striata
Pic 3 N mini Queen of spots
Pic 4 N mini Gympie perfection

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perke_patch

October 27, 2012
7:01 AM

Post #9316809

Hi Bree. Your mystery plant is definately a guzmania.

Hi Trish. your vrisea seeds are definately shooting as you said. I can see the little green things. I'm sorry to say that we also bought what we thought was vr dark knight but have since found out that it was never imported into Australia so we have a dark form of hieroglyphica. we still have it labelled dark knight so we can keep an eye on how it matures though. Your Mcwilliamsii x bold streak has some lovely striations on it. It always looks amazing though.

Shirley I was going to tell you that litle africa will colour up a lot darker with the right light. we've grown it in full sun as well as shade but it colours best if it is right on the edge of the shade inthe bright light. we usually grow it right at the edge of the shadecloth roof so it is out in the open but not in full sun. when you get enough pups it is fun to put them all in different spots just to see where gives the best colour.(see pic 1 showing full sun and shade) funny how you forget all about plants you've had for ages. I hadn't even given a thought to little africa till the last week and had to go looking for some. I've now found a couple of pots of it but they need to be moved to get the best colour out of them. then we all know exactly where they are. there's a couple of plants like that, that I hadn't noticed for a while so went looking eg kubota fire. correct name may be kiluaeu fire, but I also have kilava fire. I'm sure they are all the same plant. (see pic 2). these are another of those plants that are just ordinary colour until you put them in the right place to bring out the best colour. they can take full sun but that may bleach a bit of colour so just on that very edge with a bit of pure and filtered sun is best.

Jen and I went to Gold Coast society meeting today but neither of us bought much. nothing new there this time. I grabbed a couple of billbergias but on the way out we passed the sales tables and I noticed 5 pups of hallelujah still sitting there with $8 each on them. I said to Jen if they were cheaper I'd grab them as we can't grow a big pot full of them as everyone always wants them. So after a quick pit stop we were walking out and the lady in front had the box of hallelujahs on the way out to her car. So of course I said to her how much would she want for me to take them all so she didn't have to take them home and pot them. So I got them for $20. tomorrow I'll pot them up and hide them till they really take off then put them in the sun to bring out the colour for sale. I'm please with that haul. pic 3 is some bill hallelujahs we already had.

Ian I love your ananas. I did also notice that Sue's pics were all jumbled up but I was able to work out which was which. I think dg played with your last post also as you listed 4 pics in text but there is 5 pics.

See I told you all last night that it was going to rain after we paid for 6000L of water to fill our tanks yesterday. it rained on the way back from the coast meeting today but was dry when we got home here. but shortly after it did start to spit rain and we did get a bit of a shower for a while. but according to the radar we are in for a bit more overnight and tomorrow. fingers crossed we do get some more just to top up the tanks. we have 3 tanks but only get 2 filled so we have 2000L to go for a full set.

off to bed again. it's that time. hello to everyone. I hope Nev's computer is up and running again soon. I think his motherboard might be gone though as mine was doing the same thing on my last computer. I got a new one and paid the guy to put the old hardrive into this one so I can access my documents and pics. I can't save to it but I can get things off. I now use an external backup drive with a USB connection so it can go on both big computer and laptop.

Night everyone.
wendy

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 27, 2012
1:29 PM

Post #9317158

Good morning all.
Ian, thanks for bringing that to my attention, about the photos. I hadn't checked after I posted it (and shouldn't need to) I hope DG can sort that out, as it can lead to a bit of confusion.
Good score on the Billbergia 'Hallelujah's Wendy. I have the same problem, as people see the two pots I have in the garden, on the way to the sales area, and everyone wants one! I don't want o break them up, but I have a pot with 4 plants colouring up, and each has a small pup, so I sawed through the stolons on the plants so they are each separate with one pup, and when they grow on a bit, I will repot them all individually, and sell two of them, and keep the other two for stock
Nice to hear you are well and back in the garden Trish. You have some lovely plants there, to be sure. Congratulations on your newest babies. In regards to how long before you lift the lid, it depends on where you have them. If they are in a protected, warm spot, you can leave the lid on until they grow to touch it, but if they are in a spot where it is getting quite hot, you can lift a corner to let the hot air out. Once you have the lid off, or partially off, you must remember to keep them moist and try not to let the growing media dry out. I generally start my seeds off indoors, for up to 12 months, then move them out to the shade house in spring. Currently I have Neos seedlings sprouted and even though they are little, I have the lids off already to stop them getting too hot, but I water them about every second day. When you leave the lid on, it keeps the moisture in, and creates humidity, which is a good thing, but you can also then get alot of algae, and in my case, Fungus Gnats, which can damage the seedlings. No doubt Nev will have a better and more in depth explanation of all this when he gets his jolly computer under control.
Shirley, I love Neo. 'Lamberts Pride' Isn't it a beauty? Heres you talking about a shade house extension! Didn't you just revamp your shade house? There is never enough room!
Colleen, you clever chick. I think your idea to use coat hangers is a good one. I only have plastic coat hangers, and just can't get the same results. heh heh.
Anyway, I'd better get up and about. I had a plant sale yesterday, so now I need to catch up on everything I didn't do, like the laundry and then water all the pots.
I haven't got any pics to show you today. sorry, but will get something to show tomorrow.
Sue

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 28, 2012
1:06 AM

Post #9317562

Hi Everyone!

Hi Wendy, thanks for the heads-up with Vr. Dark Knight, I am defiantly curious to see what it will grow up to be like? I purchased this from a reputable seller in QLD who said it is a True Dark Knight imported by the seller from Andrew Maloy in New Zealand. I have been purchasing from this seller for some time now and have always been very pleased with my purchases. The mother plant was large, stunning and it took my breath away which automatically made me want to have one of my own, it is the darkest vriesea I have in my collection and I can’t wait to see what it turns out like when it matures, time will tell and hopefully I will not be disappointed given what I paid for it.

Hi Sue thanks yes I am well and back in the garden, thanks so much for the great information regarding looking after my vriesea seedlings that are germinating. I am just so pleased to see that they are germinating as I thought the seed may have been too old. Hopefully they will keep growing as they appear to be much happier since I moved them from our entertainment area into the nursery on a shelf of their own so they get better light and air flow.

I spent half the day in the garden tending to my broms and the herb and veggie patch. The other half of the day was spent catching-up with a friend and taking her through the gardens and nursery to see what we have been up to, we had such a lovely afternoon together. She was totally blown away by how many more bromeliads I have now since the last time she visited and said I defiantly have a huge addiction in collecting them, she said everywhere she turned there were bromeliads and more bromeliads everywhere lol, but that the gardens looked lovely and so full of wonderful colour and even though she is not big into broms she could not help but stare at different ones and say wow that ones’ really nice. I will have her collecting bromeliads before she knows it lol.

Have a great week everyone!

Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Vr. Bianca
Pic 2 Vr. Red Chestnut x Squiggles
Pic 3 Neo Shinning Example
Pic 4 Neo Groves Red Tiger
Pic 5 Nid Ruby Lee

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ianperry

October 28, 2012
3:21 AM

Post #9317573

Hi all, I caught a thief today, on camera anyway. No point in calling the police they would just laugh at me. It's a protected species. I guess it wants to build a nest for it's mate. I broke up some more plants today and mounted a couple on trees up the back. Too windy to use the chainsaw . So no more damage from trees falling in toe wrong place, I took out a branch with some minis yesterday. Now it is in the bush house in front of pots.
The piccie that I missed labeling last night is N mini Gympie speckles.
I played with a triple hanger today and I like it as no 2 plants line up under each other. I will work on the totems soon
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 The thief
Pic 2 N joy thompkins
Pic 3 Bil poquito blanco mini
Pic 4 Stoloniferous bil without a name as yet
Pic 5 New hangers

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 28, 2012
3:57 AM

Post #9317678

Hi all, it's much cooler today after some very welcome and much needed rain late yesterday. The wind is blowing again and it’s still quite overcast so maybe we will get some more rain over the next couple of days, hope so anyway.

Trish, glad to hear your vrieseas are germinating. I have some neos and vrieseas just showing thru and like you, not sure where to go from here ... I will be interested in reading any advice you get. My neo Old Love Letters is one of the many in flower at the moment, so maybe some pups not too far off.

Sue, thanks for sharing the info on seed raising. Like Trish, it is my first attempt of growing from seed. So far, so good, I have neo and vriesea seeds germinating and hopefully at least some of my new babies will grow to adulthood.

Ian, l had to look really hard to find the ‘thief’ in your pic but finally spotted him.

I have a neo, Chlorostricta F2 X from which I have removed 4 or 5 pups over the last six months or so, the last one only yesterday. Mum is still going strong and looking pretty good and still happily pupping away but one of the pups is already flowering even though still only about half grown. I’m guessing it won’t grow any bigger now and wonder why it should flower so soon and so small.

I also have some new neo pups and will attach pics.


Till tomorrow, bye,

Shirley




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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 28, 2012
4:03 AM

Post #9317681

Oops, looks like DG has swapped around the photos. I did load them in the right order but they have been switched. As shown they are now ...

pic 1 neo Mad Max, pic 2 neo Lime & Lava and pic 3 neo Pink Hippo.

perke_patch

October 28, 2012
6:53 AM

Post #9317799

Ian I couldn't find your thief at first then I found the bird hanging on the door beside the sign. we see them taking our old mans beard too at nesting time. but then they bring their babies round to show us and beg for mince so all is forgiven again. can't resist those babies. I'm sure they post a sentry in the mornings and as soon as he sees us up and making that cuppa he starts begging "feed me, feed me" then suddenly birds come from every for breakfast.

Shirley I noticed that your pics had been switched around but you jumped in before me to tell us. I don't know why some posts I can scroll through the pics and keep going back to the first one then back to the post while others scroll through pics to the words only and I have to scroll backwards through them all back to original post. why does this happen on some and not all. DG does some peculiar things at times.

Ian I like the look of your triple hanger. how about a pic of it with pots in so we can see how they sit?. we'll have to set up a jig soon to make a heap like the ones we bought as we'll have lots of seedlings to pot out soon. with regards to seedlings when our are big enough to be touching the lids, we take the lids off and put the trays into mini hot houses. they hold 3 take away containers in each. this gives them a bit more time protected but as Sue said we have had those little bugs chewing off the roots in some trays. the little vriseas and tillandsias seem to keep growing without the roots but things like the neos and guzmanias are just falling over and curling up when this happens so as Sue said when you see the little bugs best to pot them out and keep them watered. with the wind we are having at the moment we find we are having to water the seedlings morning and night if they are looking dry. I am just trying at the moment, putting the seedling pots into trays that hold water and I'm now watering once a day but making sure there is a bit of water in the bottom of the tray so the seedlings can take up what they need in the day. Those seedlings seem to be really growing fast and leaving the other trays of same seedlngs behind. Boy the billbergia seedlings are powering on with that ready water supply. I'll take update pics tomorrow of some of the seedlings to update the pictorial diary and show the rapid growth.

no new pics today I'm afraid. we had Karen over visiting and we had a nice chat over a cuppa. I am now the proud owner of some more epis. I'll repot them tomorrow into hanging baskets and await flowring next year. but if I get any flowers out of them this year I will certainly be taking pics to share. thanks so much for the epis Karen. I enjoyed your visit and hope you enjoy your tillandsia cotton candy.

Well off to bed again. hi and good night to all - Ian, Nev, Colleen, Trish, Sue, Karen, Jen, Shirley, and anyone I may have missed.

Wendy
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 29, 2012
1:02 AM

Post #9318635

Hello, I am a bit late today, as i had no pics to add this morning, so I thought I would leave it until I do.
I have been watching some Vrieseas on Ebay, and was stunned to see the prices they went for. V. "Maroochy Smooch' which looked like a pink V. heiroglyphica, went for $925! Who has that kind of money for one plant? Another was V. 'Ruby Blush' which sold for $600, and then V. 'Cracker Jack' went for $170, which sounded like a bargain to me. Sheesh, I don't think I will be buying any of those hybrids for some time yet.
Ian, I had to look so hard for your thief! It was like 'Wheres Wally' I thought I might have been looking for a Bower Bird, but finally spotted the magpie. I have noisy minors that steal from the brom house, blue faced honey eaters that steal from the hanging baskets on the house, and magpies steal from the hanging plants in the trees. Theres no hope!
Shirley, I meant to tell you I have looked at the variegated nudicaulis and there are three pups, not looking fantastic, but ok. Can you Dmail me your mailing address. We've had a little bit of rain too. not enough to really soak the ground, but hopefully it put a bit in the tank. Lets keep our fingers crossed for a bit more. I am glad you are having a go at seed raising and having some success. Its not too hard, just very slow.
Trish, I had to laugh. I hear the same thing from my friends too, about how every where they look there is a brom! You are right, it doesn't take long before they, too, want to have them in their gardens. Even Non gardeners get into them. I usually start them off with an Alcantarea to put in the garden. They really don't need any care at all.
Wendy, like you, i had trouble with the trays drying out, but I put the chinese food container lids underneath, and they catch a bit of water which keeps the tray moist till the next watering. Also, with the fungus gnats, I sprayed a tray that has them, with a bit of that aerosol Rogor to see what effect it has. Hopefully it won't kill the seedlings. They aren't anything special, but I don't like to hurt them!
Today I worked on Leisas memory garden. I removed a couple of pups of special thing, then replanted the broms, minus the pots. (i am always running out) i also added fresh bark and soil and watered in with a bit of thrive afterwards. hopefully that will see them through summer. I only got through a very small section, so it will be an ongoing job, but its a good way to familiarise myself with her plants, as alot of them I haven't seen before. I have potted a few to put in my brom house, and added a few from my brom house to her garden.
Anyway, I will take photos of any nice things i come across for you all.
Now, if the photos dont get mixed up...first one will be A.nudicaulis on the tree fern
Second photo is the brom tree (dracaena)
third photo should be the clump of Billbergia 'Hallelujah' that turns everyone on
the forth photo is a clump of Neo. 'Lila'
The last photo should be Tillandsia usenoides (spanish moss) in flower
lets see how it goes.
Sue



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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 29, 2012
1:03 AM

Post #9318636

seems like it worked!
nev, I hope you come back soon!

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 29, 2012
3:30 AM

Post #9318664

Hi all, another overcast day here but no rain.

Wendy, I find the same thing with scrolling thru the pics, some go back to the first pic and back to post while others go to script … like you said, DG does some peculiar things at times, like the photo switch.

I am pleased to hear you had Karen over to visit, Wendy. I was wondering whether she might be crook as she hasn’t posted for a long time … glad she’s getting out and about.

Sue, wow $925.00 for one plant, even $170.00 seems over the top. Mind you, I would love to have the sort of budget that would allow me to spend that sort of money without taking out a mortgage but I still don’t think I would spend it on a brom, much as I love them. Thank you so much for the variegated nudicaulis pup … I will D-mail my address.

I took photos today of a number of my neos that are flowering and should throw pups soon. I will add pics of a few of them tonight and maybe a few more over the next couple of days. I am hoping I might be able to organise a few swaps down the track a bit.

Nev, hope you are back with us soon. Hi to everyone else looking in.

Shirley

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 29, 2012
3:34 AM

Post #9318665

and a few more ... 'cos I can!!!

Shirley



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ianperry

October 29, 2012
3:42 AM

Post #9318666

Hi all, just a few sopts of rain today ad now it has started again. Hopefully we will get a reasonable amount tonight.
The wind dropped this afternoon so that I could prune some more trees and move the trimmings to the front of the house. It is a mess there but that is where I have access to load up for the greenwaste dump.
When I pot up my seedlings I use trays with 12 individual pockets and put 1 plant in each, place them on trays that hold water in a mini hot house and bottom water when the top of the mix dries out. I spray them with Miltons as I pot up each they and then bottom water. Every now and then I foliar fertilise them with Potassium or Manutec African Voilet food or Manutec Bloom Booster. and it seems to work for me. I roughly followed Nevs seed raising guide and added Miltons as an anti-bacterial agent. It controls white mould on the seeds. I have no drainage in my take away dishes so I really have to watch the moisture levels. When I am preparing the mix for planting seeds I use Miltons and spray the seeds into contact with Miltons. Any follow up watering during the first month I use Miltons, I have not as yet had dieback or any bugs in the soil. This is the only sterilising I use.
Have a good one, it is still raining here.
Ian.
Pic 1 3" pot hanger
Pic 2 Bil Catherine Wilson
Pic 3 Seedling trays
Pic 4 Ae Prieto or Ae Black Panther

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 29, 2012
3:53 AM

Post #9318668

Hi Everyone!

Just a quick post tonight and no pic's at the ready to post.

Shirley really like all your beautiful pics of all your broms in flower, how beautiful and full of colour they look, you can see how well you are looking after them. It was also great to see what some of my pups will turn out like seeing your ones mature and flowering.

Sue we also watched that vriesea on EBay go for $925 and just looked at each other and said how crazy it was to spend that much money on a bromeliad and it was only a small pup. Sue your random shots around the garden are beautiful and the one of your spanish moss flowering is going the same as the one in our nursery and around my vanda orchid growing under the mango tree.

Have a great week everyone, I hope my week at work goes quick as I want to continue working on the new brom garden bed on the weekend as I have more broms that need a nice shady spot to sit under.

Take care and happy gardening!

Trish

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 29, 2012
4:41 AM

Post #9318691

Are those green with pink centers Lila sue, i didnt think Lila had all that green. 1. Is a pic of what i have tagged as Lila?, its all green then goes this pink colour with hardley any green.
Shirley alot of beautiful broms there. I dont think that black ones Nelson but what do i know, looks like Zulu or pitch black...time will tell.
2. & 3. Look what my partner did to my Gruberi while cutting the palm nuts down and dropping them on my broms.
Was seeing if brom seeds grow better in coco peat or moss and i find the same but peat is cleaner and doesnt out grow the seeds like the moss or get algae on it either. I know what i'll be using next time.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 29, 2012
1:40 PM

Post #9319323

good morning all. Wow, Shirley, nice photos. I liked them all! The little marble one you have labelled as 'Hatsumi' is very cute. You seem to have them in just the right lighting to have the colours so good.
Ian, your hanger seems to do the trick nicely. The back ground shows alot of broms too! I, too, have used Miltons sterilising solution in my misting bottle, but seem to have stopped adding it at some stage, not on purpose, just forgot I guess. it could be the solutiong to preventing those gnats, as it would restrict the growth of fungus, which is what the bugs feed on. Thanks for reminding me about it, and I might start to add it once again.
Hi Trish, look at you dropping in on a weekday! It gets addictive doesn't it? And so much happens in one day, it becomes easier to comment daily. Thank you for your compliments on my photos. the spanish moss flowering never ceases to amaze me. Its so tiny! I only spottd two or three flowers amongst quite a few clumps, but I imagine I will see alot more from now on. I wonder if I cold cross pollinate them with another tillandsia, and what would result?
Hi Bree, yes N. 'Lila' they are fully shade grown nd won't see any sun for another month yet. They get big and strappy and dark green. I have some others growing in a slightly lighter area, but still no sun, and thy get the pink spreading a bit further, and mottling on the green parts, indicative of 'Lila'. Oh your poor V. ospinae gruberi! If anything, it might force it to throw more pups. At least it won't kill it! I find if you zap the sphagnum moss in the microwave for a few minutes, it won't grow anymore. I've just gone back to using it after having so much trouble with fungus gnats in the peat, but have started laying a paper towel over the top of the sphagnum moss before I add the seed. Why? I'm not sure, but they have germinated and are doing well.
Photo one is a plant that was sold to me,mounted on a stick and called a variegated Tillandsia. While shopping, I acidentally knocked one off and had to buy it also. It never recovered and this one went backwards so quickly that i potted it, and wah-lah, it is an orthophytum triolour!
Photo two is a Tillandsia gardnerii seedling on a peice of tree fern trunk, with my finger for size comparison.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 29, 2012
1:53 PM

Post #9319335

whoops, pushed send instead of 'choose a file' Derrrrr
photo one is a pot of Billbergia 'Hallelujah' that was totally green when I bought it earlier this year. It is colouring and pupping up quite nicely now.
Photo two is an unnamed mini in Leisas memory garden. Any ideas?
Photo three is a Neo. pauciflora hybrid that i really love.
Photo four is N. 'Little Faith' which I also really love
Photo five is N. 'Furnace' a very small grower with vibrant colours.
I've used my hand as an indicator of size, and the groovy gloves are toe socks with the toe tips cut off, and they go right past my elbows, which prevents scratches, as long as I remember to wear them! Cheap, and come in a variety of colours! What a fashion statement!
come back nev
Sue

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 29, 2012
2:01 PM

Post #9319343

Sue i wonder if my NOID mini is the same as yours? pic 1. I love that little coloured one in your 1st pic. Good idea with the gloves.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

October 29, 2012
2:26 PM

Post #9319367

Anyone have any pups of Hurricane Alley, i love it and really want to buy one. There is a guy on ebay selling it but his sold out.

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AdamBorzy
QLD
Australia

October 29, 2012
11:31 PM

Post #9319785

Beautiful photos of Bromeliads. Loving it! ;-)
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 30, 2012
2:47 AM

Post #9319820

Here i am back again. Twice in one day! I have an early start tomorrow so won't have time till later. I spent the better part of the morning up in the bromeliad garden and the better part of the afternoon potting up Billbergias and a few more Neos.
Bree, I was watching that N. 'Hurricane Alley' as well. I've liked it for about 12 months! Unfortunately I haven't got one, and don't know who would have one, but if you find one, remember me:-) Your Mini and mine do look similar, but who can say?
Hello Adam, I am glad you are enjoying the bromeliads. Are you a collector? feel free to join in on any discussions, and add any pics.
Photo one is a Neo labelled as "Marble Throat' but I don't think so. any ideas?
Photo two is N. "pink Marble', I didn't know there was one here! Its a bit shabby, but I'll nurse it for awhile
Photo three is N. ampullacea variegated. The pups start off green and as they age, get a yellow edge
Photo four is N. 'Turn About' which I can't find in the registry.
Photo five is N. liliputiana

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 30, 2012
2:55 AM

Post #9319826

but wait, theres more!
Heres some photos of the revamped bits of garden
photo four is some of the plants I had to pot
Photo five is the flowers on my Phaleonopsis.
Thats it now, I'll leave you alone until tomorrow
Sue

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 30, 2012
5:32 AM

Post #9319896

Hi everyone, fairly overcast here again today and a bit cooler, no rain though.

Ian, I am assuming Miltons is the anti bacterial used for sterilizing babies’ bottles … what strength do you use it, please.

Bree, I think you’re right about my neo Nelson but that’s what I bought it as. I know it was seed grown so it could be a hybrid cross ... or something. What a shame about your Vr Gruberi … are you talking yet!! And I can see why you are chasing neo Hurricane Alley … nice!!

WOW Sue, love those minis in your pics, especially ‘Little Faith’ but the others are lovely too. Your neo Marble Throat could be neo Ice White River. Your neo Pink River looks quite different to mine, yours has nice wide leaves and better colour than mine and that last one, Liliputiana is sooo tiny.

Sue, those pics of your revamped garden are awesome … wish mine looked like that, just beautiful. You have done such a great job. In your first pic of the new garden … are they growing in full sun? In your fourth pic, the broms you had to pot, the middle one on the right hand edge, the variegated one … what is it please?

I am looking forward to receiving the variegated Nudicaulis, thank you so much, Sue.

Attaching just a few more pics of my yummy neo mums-to-be.

Bye for now, Shirley

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

October 31, 2012
12:52 AM

Post #9320785

Hi Everyone!

Just a quick look in and only a couple of pics to share, then I better get dinner on the road as want to go for a walk with the dogs after dinner before it gets too late.

Luving everone's beautiful photos and nice to see so many broms in flower at the moment.

Shirley your broms in flower are georgeous you must be so proud, I seem to stare at the ones in flower now more than I do the others that are not because the colours in the ones flowering are amazing.

Sue laughed but luved your idea with the sock gloves, very trendy indeed, I will need to get myself a pair and trial them, you should market and sell your own brand, you never know it might take off. Sue luved your beaufiful garden shots and all that amazing colour everywhere, I luved especially the log with the native animal coming out of the opening, how beautiful you made it look, it looks so real.

Shame about the Lotto rollling over last night, definetly getting a ticket next week given it has jackpotted to 1M and it would be wounderful to get a piece of it even its just a small piece that would be nice, but it it is a big piece then I would look at retiring early and spend everyday in the garden with my bromeliads, my hubby Joe and our pooches lol.

Bree nice pics and it was interesting to see your pic of seedlings growing in different medium to see what happens and what looks like the better option, I have mine growing in 50% Peat and 50% Perlite and they seem to be germinating ok so far but not as quickly as I would have liked.

Anyway I better head off and get dinner on the go.

Look forward to speak with you all soon!

Happy Gardening.

Hope my pics stay in order but at least its only a couple so wont be that hard to work out the difference lol.

Pic 1 - Neo Marble Mauve
Pic 2 - Neo Grace Darling x Morris Henry Hobbs

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ianperry

October 31, 2012
3:04 AM

Post #9320801

Hi all. We had a bit of rain yesterday but not enough to do any real good. Washed a bit of dust off and dampened the top of soil. We would really like some more. I seem to be in the middle of cleaning up my yard and pruning leaving little time for my broms. I found some time today to pot up some Acanthrostaccys strobilla seedlings. I also potted up some Porteas, I am not sure which one but they had purple berries like small grapes.

Shirley to answer your question about Miltons. Yes it is Milton anti-bacterial tablets,disinfectant hospital grade, bought from Woolies at the strength of 1 tablet in 2 litres of water. I sprayed my seedlings with this mix today , the ones that I potted up.
There are a lot of nice plants being shown by all and my wish list is growning. I had no luck in lastnights Ozlotto either Trish, a small share would be nice.
Pic 2 shows a tree that I wish would just come home with me from work. It could be a spectacular Brom display tree.
Pic 1 is a til in flower but I do not know it;s name.
Have a good one
Ian

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

October 31, 2012
5:12 AM

Post #9320857

Hi all, gee it’s gone really quiet again.

Trish, love your two little neos, both are very pretty.

Ian, love your til in flower. I think the tree you want to take home with you might be a poinciana, really lovely when in flower but, like jacarandas, a bit messy.

We had a storm this afternoon which brought a little bit of rain. At the moment, every little bit counts.

Just the one pic tonight, neo Flirtation.

Hope to see everyone back soon.

Shirley

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perke_patch

October 31, 2012
6:22 AM

Post #9320930

Hi everyone. welcome to Adam. I hope you pop in again some time and let us know if you are a collector, a grower or just stumbled on the page unintentionally.

Ian you flowering till is funkiana one of my favourites.

Shirley I love all your photos with the names across the picture. I used to do that with my pics but in one of the upgrades to a new computer and new versions etc the software program which I used is no longer compatible. I hate that when it happens and you have to buy a new program. so much for having a licence to use it but it's useless if it won't work on the version you have. haven't stumbled accross another software program that does it. I'm lucky enough to have a camera that allows me to speak the name of the plant so I only have to replay on the camera after downloading the pics and voila there's the name to tag the pic. isn't technology wonderful when it works? this is the 2nd camera I have that has this voice memo facility.

Sue I love you Liesa's garden. funny how she has been popping up again in several places lately. is it the anniversary or something? I can't remember the date now although I'd imagine if I went to her fb page I'd see that last message. Love that little fella peeping out of his hollow lot. there's lots of room for some plants to share his home for camouflage though. I love the minis. little faith is one of my favourites. have a couple of pots of it now so and also a couple pots of lilliputiana so next time you are over Shirley you might be able to grab one of each. We've been potting up a lot of minis lately after seeing how Jen's were snapped up at our last couple sales.

Ian thanks for the info on Miltons. I'll definately get some of that and try it. I potted up some vriseas seedlings the other day too. I must pot up some billbergia seedlings too one day when I find some time.

Shirley I have your seeds ready to send. I actually went to the post office the other day but had left the envelope on the bench downstairs. I added a couple more packets today though so just as well I forgot it. I will send it soon I promise.

Girls I've actually seen that Maroochy smooch in the flesh at Niel's place. We've been watching it colouring up since it was a little seedling thrown in as a freeby when Niel bought some other pups from Alan Pythian. We have a couple of Alan's vrisea hybrids here and Jen was only saying this afternoon that one of them is colouring up to look very similar if not the same as maroochy smooch. Since the sun has moved around the shelf of Alan Pythian hybrids are now getting a patch of morning sunlight then shade under the palms for the middle of the day then another pach of sunlight again in the afternoon. boy the colour is coming out sensational in them. there's a very nice white one similar to maroochy pearl. I'll find the pics or take some new ones tomorrow and share them with you.

Jen bought around her milky way and a milky way x today so Johnny could encourage some romantic activity with them and some of our vriseas flowering at present. we also have milky way in flower at present along with about 30 others so lots to choose from. We had a bit of a storm just after lunch with some heavy rain but it didn't last long enough to give everything a good watering and top up the tanks. hopefully we'll get a bit more over next couple days. we have ants up the walls of the house everywhere. as fast as we spray their trails they find a new one so maybe they know there is rain coming. probably more reliable than the weather bureau. perhaps if they kept their radar dishes working and assembled they might be able to get it right now and then.

Pic 1 is the pink vr hybrid from Alan Pythian that looks similar to maroochy smooch
Pic 2 is the white vr hybrid from Alan that looks like maroochy pearl
Pic 3 is a nice NOID vrisea we picked up from a grower in Cooran so we've called it Cooran for now. It's flowering so Jen might get a x with that one to give her milky way some pink.
Pic 4 is a Cheryl Basic hybrid labelled hawaiian series #30 that coloured up really nice but I can't convince CB that it came from her. she said she doesn't sell them but I bought that one and #35 Pic 5 is hawaiian series #35

anyway time for bed again. I had an early start this morning as Johnny went out with his new crab pots before 6am and i couldn't go back to sleep so was up with washing in by 7am and potting plants. yes we had about 14 sand crabs for tea ... yummy fresh crab salad mmmmmm mmmmm.

Night all
Wendy (PS we miss you Nev. hurry back)

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

October 31, 2012
10:16 PM

Post #9321653

hello all, sorry I have been AWOL, but have been a little busy with a couple of gardening jobs and running errands in town. But I am here now.
I have heard from Nev and he is having trouble posting on DG, but can read our posts, so everyone give him a big wave!
Shirley, thank you for the compliments on the garden.
I am assuming the pink marbley Neo could be misnamed or just hard grown? I am going to nurse one and see what happens. The one you asked about in pic four is an old Mum of Neo. 'Amazing Grace' that I bought down to the shade house for a bit of TLC. There are a couple up in the garden doing well, but as they are so popular, i thought I might try to encourage old Mum to produce a few for the sales table next year. In the first pic, that garden is on a slope facing south west, so it gets some morning sun in winter, and then as the sun moves position, it gets the late afternoon sun. I think the good colours come from growing hard, with no fert and not much water. The overhead shade is provided by a stand of tall gums, so the sun can come in underneath when its low. Your pictured broms are lovely, and like Wendy, i went searching to see how i can add writing to mine, but haven't found it yet. i know there will be a way, i might just have to google for some info on the apps i have,
hi Trish. You and your hubby sound alot like us, as we like to hang in the garden with our pooches too. yes, the gloves work a treat, but after about 4 years, the elastic starts to go, and the fingers start to fray, but still, quite cheap and cheerful. The bandicoot model, is resin, and was bought for me by my Dad back in 03. He has passed now, so an ideal spot for it in the memory garden. I have a few plants from different people who have passed on now, and I have some great memories when things begin to flower.
Seeing another marble hybrid makes me think there must be quite a few around? I might have a look on the brom registry just out of interest.
Ian, your Tillandsia funkiana (be careful how you say that one) is too cute! It is also one of my favourites, and wait till it clumps up for you (takes a little while) I have actually picked this one up at bunnings for about $6 on occasion, and just keep adding it to the ones I already have. I'm not sure that the poinciana would have enough foliage to protect broms from the midday summer sun, although, if you used the sun hardy specimens, that wouldn't matter. Like Shirley, i think they are a bit messy and personally, I'd hate all those seed pods when it comes to mowing, but i love the sight of those trees when in full flower!
Wendy, It will be two years since leisaD passed on dec 11th this year. which means almost two years since i inherited her collection. I'd like to think she is happy with the care they have received, but i can't get used to taking them down to the brom house, and into my own collection. i feel like I am stealing!
I like the colour in your first VriEsea, but think its no where near as nice in the marking, as maroochy Smooch. That was like a pink heiroglyphica, but you can live in hope. At least it will be nice breeding material with the pinks.
Its gotten a bit stormy looking outside and the wind has picked up. It would be nice to get a bit of rain from it, but not likely to be much, if any.
lets see, what have i got any photos of? Nothing!
Till tomorrow
Sue
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 1, 2012
3:19 AM

Post #9321692

Hi Everyone!

Yeah, nearly the end ot another week and like always looking forward to the weekend. Got the dreaded grocery shopping out the road so as not to interrupt our weekend as our weekends are so precious to us.

Hi Nev, we really miss hearing from you and seeing all your beautiful pics' and hope you are back on line soon.

Hi Shirley, your Neo Flirtation is very cute, one that I am yet to have in my collection. Is it a medium or small grower?

Hi Wendy, really like your first pic of Vr. Pink Hybrid, arent' they breathtaking when they have that much beautiful colour all over them, they really stand out when they are in a group of green tone one's.

Johnny did well with the sand crabs, they are beautiful eating and the meat so sweet and mouth watering.

Hi Sue yeah my husband Joe and I spend a great deal of time in the garden together, we used to spend a lot of time fishing together as we both are mad keen about fishing but over the years we have gotten more and more into our addiction for collecting bromeliads and orchids given they go hand in hand so very well together and we get to enjoy and watch each other really enjoying having our own interests and often call out to each other to come over and see something we have discovered or thought about and it's really nice to bounce ideas off each other. And yes the pooches luv hanging out in the garden and nursery with us and we treat them like they are our babies lol.

Sue what a beautiful place you have created with your memory garden, it sounds like a beautiful place that you and your family can spend time in that you will be able to cherrish forever, filled with beautuful color and wonderul memories.

Hi Ian luved your pic 1, how beautiful is that little flower. Yes pic 2 would make a perfect brom display tree for hanging in but not under as they are so messy, but so beautiful when they are in full flower..

Regarding the lotto I noticed I typed a typo and said 1M instead of 100M, maybe I was trying to not be greedy lol.

Sorry, no pics tonight I will post some on the weekend, time to head off for our walk.

Hopefully I have not missed anyone as you may have posted your thread whilst I am sending mine.



perke_patch

November 1, 2012
5:23 AM

Post #9321747

Hi trish
I got 4 straight numbers in the lotto. haven't worked out yet what that will be worth but hopefully it will put an entry in for next week. wouldn't it be nice to get 6 straight numbers???? we got 5 one time but there were so many winners we only got $900. The week before and week after it paid several thousand each time. ah well. one day...

Pic 1 is nidularium leprosa which are all flowering at present. I think we have about 6 or 8 flowering.
Pic 2 is nid. raru also flowering at present. this one is a large grower too so impressive to see.
Pic 3 is nid fulgens another one flowering at present.
pic 4 is 3 colours of fulgens. not sure if there is 3 different colours or if they just look different colours at different stages of the flowering. they are labelled different colours though eg cerise.

having an early night tonight so I'll say goodnight now.
Wendy

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 1, 2012
5:34 AM

Post #9321756

Hello all, quite a hot day here today with a rather warm breeze blowing.

Wendy, I like the idea of speaking the plant name to the camera, I have never heard of that before. And, yes it’s very annoying when a software program you like to use isn’t compatible with new hardware.

Love the vrieseas Wendy, all very nice. My favourite is Pic 4 but I would be only too happy to take any one of them off your hands :o) and I will certainly check out whatever mini neos you have available next time we are over.

Sue, sorry to hear that Nev is still having trouble with his computer. I am sure that your pink marbley neo and Amazing Grace will reward your TLC with some nice pups.

Nev, good to hear from Sue that you are able to read our posts on DG. I’ll bet it is sooo frustrating for you not to be able to comment. Looking forward to having you back on board and reading your posts … we all miss you.

Trish, neo Flirtation is a small grower, compact but with lots of leaves and nice colour too. The weekend you look forward to is almost here … one more day at work. I am so glad we don’t have to front up to work 5 days a week any more. I don’t know how we managed to get things done at home when we both worked full time, but life was pretty hectic then.

I would like to see a number of people share in Tuesday night’s big lotto, of course, wouldn’t mind being one of them either ... wouldn’t it be nice.

Bree, pics 1 and 2 are two of the pups you sent me in July … pic 1 is neo Lila, already in flower and pic 2 is neo Ring Leader … looking good.

Pic 3 is neo Royal Cordovan, pic 4 is neo Shelldance, pic 5 is neo Teds Rose

Catch up again tomorrow, bye for now

Shirley


PS Wendy, DG is very slow for me tonight, it took me ages to upload the photos. By the time I did I got the message that someone else had posted and I had to check it out before posting mine. Love the pics of your nids though none of mine are flowering. They are in heavy shade so maybe they’re not getting enough sunlight.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 1, 2012
1:28 PM

Post #9322092

A message from Nev.

Hi everyone – Wow so much reading to catch up on. Just to tell you the story briefly, I took the computer to the computer doctors last Friday and got it back on Monday , or was it Tuesday? I forget now; anyway he said he turned it on and everything worked normally – he did it a few more times and still no problems so no cost for Nev. Got home and everything's working again except I can't post on Dave's Garden (just like before when a similar thing happened – I can read the posts but can't send anything myself, so Sue has kindly offered to act as a relay and I'll email her and she'll (fingers crossed) post for me and we'll see how that works. As usual lots of great pic's of plants from you all, (and even boogie boarding dogs) and so much news to take in in just a few days.

Colleen – Your Ae Burgundy is looking great and I'm sure you'll like the flowers which are a bit similar to Ae Mirlo. It's interesting as it's from a crossing of species (Ae distichantha v schlumbergeri) x (Weilbachii f. leodiensis), but still a “striking” plant.

I'd just like to pick up on Sue's comment to Shirley about Neo. Lambert's Pride, it is a nice brom and a good grower and producer of pups as well but it's also proving to be quite a good breeder and I'm attaching a pic to this email in the hope that Sue can relay it on to you all.

As for Trish's seedlings and when she should take off the lid, I can only speak about what I do under my conditions. My containers are on a shelf in a closed in north facing back porch which gets good light but no direct sun. The lids stay on until I'm going to a aclimatise them prior to planting them out. Depending on what they are (but in my case mostly Neo's) I don't plant them out or thin them out until they have five leaves. This is what I was originally taught and it has always worked OK. I find that taking them earlier increases the risk of losses in my climate, but you could probably get away with it the further north you live where it is warmer. With some of the faster growing ones such as the larger Aechmeas, Porteas and some Bill's, they will reach to top of the container long before they have the five leaves and in this case I remove the top and put them in another area where I keep the ones that have already been planted out and I just water them when they need it. I must emphasise though that what works for me won't necessarily work for others.

Ian – You're not the only one with birds in the shade house, last year and again this year I've had Spotted Honey Eaters nest and raise young in my Vriesea shade house and the little New Holland Honey Eaters have done the same in an area further down the yard near the frog pond. We have all sorts of birds coming into the yard now and I think it's great. Yours looks like a Little Butcher Bird and these become very tame very quickly and will soon take food out of your hand.

Who owned the Vriesea that sold for $925 on Ebay, was it one of Jack's or Pedro's? Prices like that are another good reason to start growing your own from seed; you save money and always have the remote chance of getting a “cracker” like that which you can sell for that sort of money.

Sue – Your plant could still be Neo. 'Marble Throat', I've had them show some different markings like that from time to time (usually after a “hot spell”). Best wait until it pups and see if the pups are the same, and if they are you have a different one yet again. I don't think it's Ice White River as Shirley suggested but somewhere in between Marble Throat and Ice White River colourwise. It's the marble throated type in the next pic that really catches my eye and whenever you get a spare pup you want to swap, please keep me in mind. The same applies to Trish and her Neo 'Marble Mauve', when ever you get a spare pup of that one Trish, please let me know too.

Ian – Although I don't grow them myself, I love you little Tillandsia, I think its a “beaut”. And pic of the Poinsiana tree brings back some happy memories from a wonderful holiday we had in Cairns many years ago. I managed to bring back some seed and grow it and my son has since turned them into nice Bonsai specimens.

That's all for now and I'll finish with a pic of some Lambert's Pride seedlings.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 1, 2012
11:54 PM

Post #9322490

Got some new Broms. 1. wanted this Vriesea Intermedia for the red flower spikes they have, a huge plant for $7.00.
2. Norman Bates, also a pretty big plant. 3. a massive Aechmea Blanchetiana 'Rubra'. 4. Big Mac.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 1, 2012
11:58 PM

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1. Gympie Fair. 2. Gympie Lavender Lace. 3. Aechmea 'Pie in the sky' and 4. Neo Pink Tips.
Is there a November thread yet?

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 2, 2012
1:14 AM

Post #9322506

Bree, I tried ... and failed. Had a problem with the address. I will try again later ... after dinner.

Shirley
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 2, 2012
2:30 AM

Post #9322511

hello all. I didn't get enough time to drop in this morning.
Lots of nice plants there, bree. Where ever did you get them all?
How forget full of me to not begin, or ask someone to begin the new thread! If you have too much trouble, let me know and I can walk you through it, or start it myself ...tomorrow.
I had trouble copying and pasting Nevs post this morning, but have googled the programme I use, and am now proficient at it.
I didn't get a chance to do much in the garden today, as it was blowing a gale, and way to dangerous to be under the gum trees. I did water the brom house though, and noticed the Billbergia rosea that I got from Nev, via Jen, has a flower spike forming. It looks like it is going to be a monster!
Thats it for me tonight, I am a little bit tired, so I'll leave you with a photo of the Billbergias
maybe one of the mini Neos too
Sue

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 2, 2012
2:41 AM

Post #9322517

Hi again, trying to begin a new thread for November ...



http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1286523/#9322513







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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 2, 2012
2:57 AM

Post #9322521

How clever am I ... new thread for November started ... see previous post

Shirley
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 2, 2012
4:39 PM

Post #9323050

Well done, Shirley. I am following you now!

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