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springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

October 8, 2012
8:54 AM

Post #9299539

Any of you PNW gardeners use this stuff? Seems to be big back east and down in the southern states. My gardening experience is only here in the PNW. It is used as a mulch but I have read that it can raise the ph in your soil. Any of you use it here?
The reason for the question is I bought some daylilies and one is not doing well so I posted pictures. The response was mulch with pinestraw.
Willowwind2
Union, WA
(Zone 8b)

October 8, 2012
10:55 AM

Post #9299655

I knew a lady who used fir needles for mulch throughout her garden. Didn't hurt anything. East and south have a lot more pine trees around than we do here. I believe the best mulch is compost and that certainly would not hurt the daylily. Keep it moist and as soon as it starts raining it will probably get better. Could shade it.
springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

October 8, 2012
2:51 PM

Post #9299838

I agree with you Willow. Then as you weed that gets tilled into the soil to make it better. I planted them in really good dirt mixed with a bit of compost. Not to sure what those needles would do mixed in.
Willowwind2
Union, WA
(Zone 8b)

October 8, 2012
6:39 PM

Post #9300082

Yes, back east and other places they need to make their soil more acidic.
springcolor
Lake Stevens, WA

October 9, 2012
8:55 AM

Post #9300542

Well that is not the case here.
nancynursez637
Madras, OR

January 4, 2013
10:18 PM

Post #9375903

I use pine straw over my raspberries and blackberries for winter mulch and for my blueberries. I usually lay down a good 3" of compost once everything has died back and it has turned off cold then mulch with the pine straw. rake it off a little in the spring.
Willowwind2
Union, WA
(Zone 8b)

January 5, 2013
10:35 AM

Post #9376185

Hi Nancy, Happy you dropped in. Welcome! I use sawdust or saw shaving for my blueberries. Where do you get your pinestraw? There are no pine trees where I am living now.
Lauribob
Twisp, WA

January 6, 2013
1:09 PM

Post #9377354

Is Pinestraw the same as just using pine needles for mulch? I've never seen it for sale around here. We do have mostly pine trees in the forest around here and my soil is extremely alkaline. Maybe I should make a trip up into the woods with a wheelbarrow next spring. Of course you probably need some kind of permit, I don't think you can even pick up a rock anymore without buying some kind of permit from the Forest Service...
Willowwind2
Union, WA
(Zone 8b)

January 6, 2013
6:46 PM

Post #9377668

It is the same, pineneedles or pine straw. They may have a different looking needle back east.
Lauribob
Twisp, WA

January 13, 2013
3:10 PM

Post #9383924

Well this is good information. I'm having an "Aha" moment. I'm surrounded by pine forests and have alkaline soil. I also have a yen for acid-loving plants at times, being born and raised on the coast. Seems like a simple solution, easily solved with a free afternoon in spring, a wheelbarrow, and a rake.
Willowwind2
Union, WA
(Zone 8b)

January 13, 2013
3:28 PM

Post #9383942

Sounds like a good project. Wish I had pines. But I do have a very large maple, small leaved. That works too.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

March 30, 2013
11:33 AM

Post #9466784

Wow! I have loads of pine trees and pine needles, of course...and alkaline soil! I do mulch my blueberries and strawberries with it and they seem to like it. And now I am digging a new shady bed, as the plants on the north side of the house seem to flag in the heat of the morning (hot) sun in the summer.

Julia ~ Thanks for the thread!
nancynursez637
Madras, OR

April 5, 2013
6:29 PM

Post #9473156

Willow, we have loads of ponderosa pines in neighborhoods near us, and they shed like mad alll winter. So the homeowners are happy to give them away
(pinestraw)
Willowwind2
Union, WA
(Zone 8b)

April 6, 2013
10:36 AM

Post #9473697

You have it good then. I used to have one pine tree at the other house. Not much but I made use of them.

Tracerracer

Tracerracer
SW OR, OR
(Zone 8a)

April 25, 2013
5:59 PM

Post #9497230

This thread caught my eye...Several years ago, I was looking for info on strawbale gardening... I found Kent's thread on a North Carolina forum ( he's a member here too) Anyway, in reading that thread, I ran across a reference to pinestraw...??...So, I signed up and asked...

" One more thing. Just curious, I'm in Oregon, been around ranchin', farmin' and loggin' all my life. What is 'pine straw'? LOL, you should have seen the looks I got when I've asked some friends...We have pine trees, pine wood, pine nuts, heck even pine cones...But am not sure what pine straw is (there are several people curious)"

At least it got a 'giggle' (and an answer)... I have yet to see any here (still in Oregon) but there are plenty of trees available close, should I want any ;)
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

April 25, 2013
7:57 PM

Post #9497365

Pine needles!
nancynursez637
Madras, OR

May 4, 2013
5:30 AM

Post #9507599

Tracerracer wrote:This thread caught my eye...Several years ago, I was looking for info on strawbale gardening... I found Kent's thread on a North Carolina forum ( he's a member here too) Anyway, in reading that thread, I ran across a reference to pinestraw...??...So, I signed up and asked...

" One more thing. Just curious, I'm in Oregon, been around ranchin', farmin' and loggin' all my life. What is 'pine straw'? LOL, you should have seen the looks I got when I've asked some friends...We have pine trees, pine wood, pine nuts, heck even pine cones...But am not sure what pine straw is (there are several people curious)"

At least it got a 'giggle' (and an answer)... I have yet to see any here (still in Oregon) but there are plenty of trees available close, should I want any ;)


I use ponderosa pine needles in my berries, they do not have much sap on them, most of the time. In central Oregon there are tons of them, don't know about your area, sw Oregon

evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

May 6, 2013
1:52 PM

Post #9510776

Yes, I put pine needles on my STRAW berries...I was wondering why they called them straw berries. Could that be the reason?? I read in a booklet on growing them that the pine needles are the best environment for them and I was curious about their name...

I put them on my blueberries as well.
mbabbitt
Bothell, WA

May 9, 2013
12:04 PM

Post #9514610

Here is a Snopes discussion on the possible origins of the name, strawberry: apparently, nothing to do with being grown with straw. Possibly, the name has more to do with the way they grow or are cultivated.
http://www.snopes.com/language/notthink/strawberry.asp

evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

May 10, 2013
2:40 PM

Post #9515985

Thank you, mbabbitt.

Tracerracer

Tracerracer
SW OR, OR
(Zone 8a)

May 24, 2013
2:56 PM

Post #9532746

nancynursez637 wrote:

I use ponderosa pine needles in my berries, they do not have much sap on them, most of the time. In central Oregon there are tons of them, don't know about your area, sw Oregon



Almost too funny... I am CO born and bred... Graduated from Redmond, most of my family is in Prineville, worked for the 'sale' in Madras, went to Church in Bend and worked for Leavitt's in Sisters (it get's 'better') Lived in Gilchrist ( long enough to see it SNOW ('real snow')) EVERY month of the year, my kids played LL in La Pine... If you are a 'long time' Madras family, I bet we probably know some of the same people :)

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