This one has flowers that barely open up, like 'Purpureus variegatus', except this shrub doesnt have the variegated leaves and is at least 18 years old, before 'Purpureus variegatus' was invented. Could this be it's ancestor? It so far has no seed pods, but I keep checking.
SOLVED: Another mystery rose of sharon
keithp2012 West Babylon, NY(Zone 7a) Oct 14, 2012
Thank you very much that's it! I love this variety such a unique looking flower!