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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 18, 2012
11:32 AM

Post #9308965

While you guys have been bragging about your fabulous producers, we down here have been suffering with just our mangos and figs and starfruit. And as you are cleaning up the remants of the really good stuff, we are just starting.

So here are this year's set of candidates for the purloined Campari and Mountain Magic VFF race.

Be well

(o_O)

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juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 18, 2012
1:58 PM

Post #9309078

Well I'm already jealous!!! But ya know", We get to shovel snow!! and you don't HUH!!! DUH!!! WHAT!!! LOL!!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 19, 2012
6:12 AM

Post #9309587

Don't get carried away. I was not born here -- seems like nobody (except Native Americans) was born here.

It was tough getting uses to NOT planting tomatoes on Memorial Day -- and trying to have them all picked before the first frost. Uggghhh.

Be well

(o_O)
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 19, 2012
7:19 AM

Post #9309626

flyboyFL, I must be starting to become a died-in-the-wool DG'er. I've been looking forward to your fall/winter tomato adventures for this year! The seedlings look good so far, can't wait to see more photos.

By the way, my two sons were born in FL.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 19, 2012
9:36 AM

Post #9309740

terri~

I apologize for not finishing my pronouncement about being born in Florida. When we first arrived here there was a Letter to the Editorof the local paper generally calling to everyone's attention the following: "Where do people who were actually born in Florida go to die? The obituaries are replete with 'born in Michigan, born in New York, et cetera'"

It hasn't changed.

But -- we all seem to die here. God's waiting room.

Be well

(o_O)

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 19, 2012
11:43 AM

Post #9309823

I was just having a little fun with you, the seedlings look good and as said of another I am looking forward to more.
Sometimes I imagine about about gardening outside year round ,wondering what it would be like.Of course that is why I watch threads here.
Not many live where they were born either.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 19, 2012
11:50 AM

Post #9309830

Fun thread! Love your comment, juhur, about flyboyFL not having the thrill of shovel snow!

Born, raised, and living on Long Island all my life.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

October 19, 2012
12:16 PM

Post #9309841

VERY nice seedlings!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 20, 2012
8:43 AM

Post #9310458

And away we go!

Be well

(o_O)

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flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 21, 2012
3:34 PM

Post #9311494

One day in the pots.

(o_O)

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Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

October 22, 2012
9:42 AM

Post #9312205

I see, REVENGE is sweet!
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 22, 2012
10:56 AM

Post #9312259

In photo three you can almost smell the seedling the quality of the photo is so sharp! (I think I've mentioned before that I love the smell of tomato seedling!)

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 22, 2012
3:36 PM

Post #9312478

Sweeter than wine.

As regards the photos. i hate to be giving free publicity -- and Steve Jobs is no longer able to take advantage of it -- but. I have not used a real camera since I graduated to my iPhone 4s. It is amazing. Almost like the old box cameras. Point -- and shoot. The actual negative is four times sharper (more pixels) than what I post. That way it is easier to download. Amazing!

And you are right. i hate washing my hands after handling them.

Be well

(o_O).
OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

October 24, 2012
5:59 AM

Post #9313823

Mighty nice, Flyboy! And you just had to post those seedlings in red cuts sitting on the dock of the bay! Nice image!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 24, 2012
6:46 AM

Post #9313870

Right. A single picture is worth 1000 words.

Be well

(0-0)
OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

October 24, 2012
9:56 AM

Post #9314051

I meant cups! Enjoy your views! It will be getting cooler here this weekend, even though we are in the south. But this is my favorite time of the year for weather! It's perfect, even if I don't have any more tomatoes!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 24, 2012
10:57 AM

Post #9314103

You didn't have to correct that word. No problem. There is a difference between "misspelling" and missing a key on the board.

I once read this and thought it was pretty cool.

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid. Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas thought slpeling was ipmorantt! tahts so cool!!!

If you can udernatnsd tihs rdanieg, garet!'

Be well

(o_O)




terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 24, 2012
11:03 AM

Post #9314110

LOL!

newyorkrita

newyorkrita
North Shore of L. I., NY
(Zone 6b)

October 24, 2012
11:32 AM

Post #9314133

Oh my. When I looked at the entire paragraph written it just looks like a bunch of gibberish in total. But when reading it, no problem. Easy to understand. That really is amazing.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 24, 2012
11:59 AM

Post #9314158

See!

This will make "spellcheck" obsolete.

Now if we can just teach the kids how much is seven times seven (without using a calculator) -- the world is safe.

And when we get by that, "How much is a half of a half, divided by a half?"

Be well

(o_O)
OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

October 24, 2012
1:37 PM

Post #9314252

And I used to be able to type so well! I've totally lost my skillage! And I hardly ever use spellcheck (probably should, but it never catches the words I need it to check).

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

October 25, 2012
7:19 AM

Post #9314892

One-eighth...

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 25, 2012
7:27 AM

Post #9314899

Gymgirl:

Sorry. You lose. Anyone else want a chance?

(Answer comes Saturday)

Be well

(o_O)

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

October 25, 2012
8:01 AM

Post #9314913

One Sixteenth!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 25, 2012
8:24 AM

Post #9314942

Wrong way

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

October 25, 2012
9:09 AM

Post #9315004

Then, it's one-fourth!
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 25, 2012
9:21 AM

Post #9315020

I'll weigh in with one half.

more photos please (dreary here today).

dreaves

dreaves
Hutto, TX
(Zone 8b)

October 25, 2012
9:51 AM

Post #9315056

It's the old rule about dividing a fraction by a fraction. It is necessary to invert and multiply! Conceptually, it is really hard to define dividing a number by a fraction. If I have quarter of a pie, I can't divide it into portions greater than the amount I already have. The best I can come up with is, "If I have 1/4 pie now, and I divided what I had before in half, how much was there to start?"

1/4 / 1/2 = 1/4 * 2 = 1/2
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 25, 2012
10:08 AM

Post #9315070

Yup! I remember tormenting my sister with that one! She would cry 8~)!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

October 25, 2012
11:10 AM

Post #9315118

Ok. You win...I concur.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 25, 2012
11:29 AM

Post #9315136

OK. Algebra 101.

5 divided by one-half = 10

Simple -- same as how many half-dollars would you get for a five dollar bill? Ten.

But I am proud that some got it. Try it on your progeny.

It is cloudy and windy. The tomatoes are acclimatizing to the soli sneaking up along their stems and not blowing around as much.

But my Celeste figs are fulfilling their promise and pusking out their next crop. Nice -- stuffed with a little gorgonzola cheese and baked. Yum.

Be well

(o_O)

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 26, 2012
7:19 AM

Post #9315880

They are starting to climb. My next activity will be tightening up the strings,

Be well

(o_O)

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terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 26, 2012
8:09 AM

Post #9315920

Ooo, lovely, lovely figs! Mine seem to be done for the season. I keep forgetting to take photos of them =(.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 28, 2012
8:10 AM

Post #9317857

First buds. You need sharp eyes.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

October 28, 2012
8:12 AM

Post #9317858

Need to restring the framework

Be well -- and for you northeasterners, batten down the hatches.

(o_O)

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 2, 2012
9:37 AM

Post #9322787

But, some days we want them in salads.

So what is better than eating them between basil leaves and slices of mozzarella?

Be well

(o_O)

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OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

November 2, 2012
9:55 AM

Post #9322795

Yummy! My favorite! Just add me some avocado slices.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 2, 2012
11:31 AM

Post #9322845

I had some of them on my solitary avocado tree, but they all blew off.

Be well

(O-O)

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 8, 2012
10:49 AM

Post #9327953

Up, up -- and away we go.

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OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

November 8, 2012
3:38 PM

Post #9328228

Lookin' good!

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 9, 2012
1:36 PM

Post #9329066

Just across the bay from flyboyFL, here. Guess I got a few weeks' jump as I planted seeds in Sept, although you will stay warmer than my garden through the winter. I have three 'Momotaro' in bloom, nearly 3ft. tall in an Earth Box here. Grape tomatoes, (along with peppers, two kinds of broccoli and eggplant 'Purple Rain' - gotta grow that one ) are close behind, although they're beside the pathway to my DH's shop so he snags all the ripe ones as he passes by and I hardly taste any!

Yeah, it's a tough life down here growing our veggies through the winter. Never a dull moment.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 10, 2012
11:32 AM

Post #9329713

I have been promising myself to get Earth Boxes but I am too lazy. Those plastic buckets are just too easy.

Maybe next year.

They certainly do wonders for you.

Be well

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 10, 2012
12:28 PM

Post #9329737

Easy, you have no idea! Once I get them set up, including a micro irrigation tube for each on the timer, all I do is stand back, watch the plants grow and wait to pick. No weeds, no bugs, no diseases, no watering or fertilizing. Just cover them up if the nights get cold, and let them produce. It's magic gardening.

My kids gave me two Earth Boxes for Christmas a few years ago, and then I bought one more. I've been hooked ever since. They have given me two more each year, but I now have 7 and that is enough for me to grow veggies for the two of us all winter.

Order 'em online from earthbox.com and they'll arrive at your door. I'm a Believer. Or been lured to the Dark Side depending which way you look at it.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 11, 2012
10:50 AM

Post #9330368

So I talked myself into re-googling the Earth Boxes and your endorsement.

I think that you over-glossed the lily. I found that one still has to get seeds and plant them -- and carry he fruit into the kitchen -- and wash it before eating. So it's not that all-automatic after all.

Just kidding.

And I am impressed with your D-name. Are you old enough to remember "xyzzy" from the "Colossal Cave Adventure" computer game of the '70s? Or is it from a later usage? It has been a magic word.

Be well

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 11, 2012
1:11 PM

Post #9330474

LoL, it is just a handle my daughter made up when she was 14. She's 29 now and allows me to use it. Since she was born in '83 I'm guessing she wasn't familiar with the Colossal Cave Adventure.

On the planting side, you could buy transplants . . . but of course us tomato snobs would never do that. They hardly ever have a worthy variety at any of the nurseries I've seen here. Certainly never seen Campari and Mountain Magic let alone Momotaro.

I forgot to comment that I have Celeste figs also, planted the tree last year and got one fig. This year it has two huge new branches, but I only have three figs. May die of old age before I actually get a reasonable harvest!

Oh, yeah. Have you tried the 'Cardinal' basil? It's really pretty as well as having yummy leaves. Big dark red flower heads. Got the seed from Burpee's. I have seedlings about 6in. high so will post a picture when they're blooming - another month if it stays warm. Here's one from a year ago springtime.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 11, 2012
6:10 PM

Post #9330699

No, I think that it would be cheating to buy someone else's tomato plants and pass them off as your own. It just doesn't seem right. And, you can never be sure what you have. Plus, you give such TLC to your tomatoes, it would be a waste to spend this effort on some unknown variety.

My figs are really confused his year, what with the unseasonal (or unusual) amount of warm weather. They are all bearing fruit (except for the Black missions). So, i do not know whether this is the "breba" or the real McCoy. The crop is not bountiful -- but they are delicious. Here is a photo of today's Celestes.

That "Cardinal" is too pretty to be a basil. Does it taste the same?

And to get back to "xyzzy." It is actually a very famous code. You can find its story in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xyzzy

Be well

(o_O)

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OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

November 12, 2012
5:12 AM

Post #9330899

Flyboy, you tickled a brain cell with your mention of 'Colossal Cave Adventure'. Thanks for the link. I didn't have time to go explore the name the other day, but just looked at it, and that was the game I remember! A friend and I fooled around with it at work for a while back in the 70's. We figured a bunch of it out but as I recall, we pretty much had to start over every time we played so we had to write down how to get through the maze every time or remember it. We sort of diagramed it after a while so we could remember what to do.

Had not thought of this in quite a while. Thanks!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 12, 2012
7:53 AM

Post #9331044

Keep alive. The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Be well

(o_O)

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

November 12, 2012
11:57 AM

Post #9331266

And, the waste is a terrible thing to mind!

Although, my waist has been at the forefront of my mind, for some time now!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 12, 2012
1:58 PM

Post #9331383

LOL

(o_O)

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 13, 2012
9:42 AM

Post #9332074

A tomato is (some tomatoes are) born.

Be well

(o_O)


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flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 13, 2012
9:44 AM

Post #9332076

More Celestes -- today

(o_O)

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terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 13, 2012
11:32 AM

Post #9332170

Oooo, such cute little baby tomatoes.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 17, 2012
6:45 PM

Post #9335871

And, sweet as sugar.

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 17, 2012
7:12 PM

Post #9335894

I've got some an inch or so across, sure hope it stays warm so they will ripen!

Momotaro tomatoes, not figs . . . my figs are sizing up so slowly!

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 18, 2012
9:01 AM

Post #9336186

Only you?

(o_O)

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 18, 2012
10:53 AM

Post #9336248

They do come along like gangbusters once they get started, don't they!

Here's a shot of my meager little Celeste's still hard and green on the tree.

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terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 19, 2012
9:57 AM

Post #9337183

Sigh! Lovely photos guys. Enjoy!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 24, 2012
7:27 AM

Post #9341171

Five weeks later.

I will have to buy longer stakes.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 24, 2012
7:30 AM

Post #9341172

Race against the clock.

How soon?

Be well

(o_O)

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 24, 2012
12:17 PM

Post #9341353

Right there with ya! Momo's are supposed to be "Determinate" but they're still growing, wonder when they will "determine" it's time to stop?

Grape tomatoes have fruit full size now, just waiting for the red.

Broccoli and eggplants moving right along. Let's hope it doesn't get too cold!

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 24, 2012
1:27 PM

Post #9341384

There is certainly nothing like that good old Florida sunshine.

Of course a little rain would help.

Be well

(0-0)

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 28, 2012
2:39 PM

Post #9344820

I may be looking for investors

See attached photo..

That is $4.99 for 16 ounces. (They list it that way because 16 Ounces sounds like more than just One Pound.)

Uggghhh.

Be well

(o_O)



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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 28, 2012
4:35 PM

Post #9344913

Hey Flyboy, are your plants all Mountain Magic, or did you actually get or save some seeds of Campari?

I'm getting ready to order seeds for my spring garden from TGS and they have 'Mountain Magic VFFF' but not Campari. Just to make you feel better, the packet of seeds of Mountain Magic was $4.95 - argh! At least I'll get more than 16oz. of tomatoes from it.
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 29, 2012
11:06 AM

Post #9345472

Yikes on both tomato and seed prices! I'm making more room for tomatoes this spring & summer...

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

November 30, 2012
2:20 PM

Post #9346398

dy````

Yes and no. I now have some fifth generation Campari seeds. It started with a box from Sam's -- and I started and planted some while the box still had some uneaten ones in it. I introduced the Mountain Magic last year -- they are supposed to be the same as the Camparis. The MM's were in the ground -- the Camparis in the pots. The MM's were more prolific -- but the Camparis seemed to have a better taste and texture. Maybe I am just opposed to change.

This year I started them separately, but when it came to potting and planting I just mixed them up. i want to see if I can tell any difference when they are growing together.

They both do exceptionally well, especially in my backyard. Back north I stuck to beefsteaks, but I don't think they have Florida capabilities. (Carolyn: I apologize for butting in to your domain.)

terri~

RIGHT!!!

Be well

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 30, 2012
8:48 PM

Post #9346633

Hmm, cool experiment!

I've had the same experience as you, smaller fruited varieties with all the numbers and letters (disease resistance) are more productive. I wonder if you could grow hybrid beefsteaks through the (longer) spring season? Start seeds in Jan. and see if you can get anything by May? Hmm, I have one Earth Box with nothing in it yet . . .

I tried a couple of Heirloom varieties back when, and even in pots growing on a concrete patio, they got all sorts of diseases and other troubles. Big beautiful Brandywine plants, wilts and fungus and bugs, Oh My! No joy.

dyz

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

December 15, 2012
10:28 AM

Post #9359005

The crop -- today.

Be well

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 15, 2012
6:18 PM

Post #9359417

Ahhh! Revenge is sweet... 8 )
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 17, 2012
7:30 AM

Post #9360534

Lovely!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

December 17, 2012
7:37 AM

Post #9360539

BEAUTIMOUS!

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 17, 2012
8:04 AM

Post #9360564

Been away a week, and came back to two ripe grape tomatoes yesterday! Yum. More to come.

My Momo's are not even close yet, just a tinge of yellow but are full-sized now. I am withholding water a bit, to see if I can get a few to ripen before it gets too cold. They will stop setting fruit once the nights are getting down into the 40's.

It's a good feeling that we will stop losing sunlight time this week, and start gaining it back again. Even here December has pretty short days.

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terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 17, 2012
8:17 AM

Post #9360580

Thanks for the photos! That second one kind of looks like a dream sequence freeze frame. =)

Hear you about the 21st! I always looks forward to more minutes of sunlight each day, too.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

December 17, 2012
8:19 AM

Post #9360581

dyzzypyxxy,
I'm gonna pray that you can ripen that MOMO and taste it!

And, I truly hope you have a good one there, because the taste of a ripe Momotoro is FANTASTIC!!! Keep it on that vine long as you can, but know that once you have the slightest tinge of red, you can bring it inside and finish ripening it.

No need for the windowsill as the photosynthesis cycle with the sun will have been broken. But, it will ripen!

Let us know how you do!

Linda

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 17, 2012
9:00 AM

Post #9360624

No worries, Linda. I am sure I can leave it on the vine until it ripens, unless we get some really cold nights. The leaves make the sugar for the fruit, so better to leave it on there. I never ripen them indoors. The color changes but the flavor doesn't get any better.

We very rarely get frost. When it goes down into the 40s I cover the tomatoes, peppers and eggplants with frost cloth and put jugs of hot water under the covers to keep them warm. Keeps them from going dormant and losing leaves, and even though they won't set fruit, they will still ripen what's on the vines. That has worked for me even through our record cold winter a couple of years ago. I can also put warm water into the reservoirs of the Earth Boxes to help with warmth.

You folks in TX have to deal with too hot, and we have to deal with too cold, it's a whole different world! Although I'm sure you've tried to stretch your tomato plants lives through the fall, too.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

December 17, 2012
10:21 AM

Post #9360674

Dyzzypyxxy,
You can keep tomato plants going down to 40? That's great info to know, as I'm about to push the planting envelope by setting out my spring transplants in mid-February next year. It's a calculated risk against our winter cold dips, but, we don't usually get sustained days of freezing temps (maybe 3-4 at most, for a couple hours, unless it's a truly hard freeze overnight).

I'm hoping to be able to protect my long-season tomato transplants from freezing between mid-Feb and mid-April. I'll have hoops in place, perforated plastic sheeting, and sheets and blankets ready. Good to know about the warm water jugs. Also, I hear that a string of Christmas lights can provide some heat underneath the hoops, too.

Never thought about putting warm water in the EB reservoirs! Thanks for the tips!

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 17, 2012
3:37 PM

Post #9360934

Well, I had a huge pair of Black Cherry plants last year that bore fruit from December until April, died back from blight and jumped up again in June . . . no use going through summer here, though. We only had a few nights that got really cold last year, though. The plants do stop setting fruit when it's that cold, but as soon as it warms again in Feb or so, they start up again. Just got to keep 'em warm enough that they don't lose their leaves.

We buy 2 1/2 gallon jugs of water for hurricane supplies in the summer. Once the season is over, we use the water to drink, then I refill them and put some coffee grounds in. It makes the water a dark color, and also discourages mosquitoes from laying eggs in the jugs. Set them in the sun near your plants. The dark color absorbs sun's heat better than clear. The bigger the jug, the longer it holds heat just because of mass. Even on nights when I don't cover them, the jugs keep the area around the plant a bit warmer.

A friend of mine uses this on a larger scale to heat his greenhouse all winter in Salt Lake City. He uses a large dark colored plastic storage tub full of water, with a waterbed heater in it. The bigger the tub the better. It also helps keep the greenhouse humidified, that being an essentially desert area. It's a great, low energy alternative to using electric heat.

Here's the jug, and two shots of the garden last winter with frost covers in place. (I did cover the blooming brug after this, too)

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

December 18, 2012
7:47 AM

Post #9361361

Here comes the sun -- I hope, I hope, I hope.

Be well

(o_O)

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 24, 2013
10:32 AM

Post #9396121

I have had a busy winter -- but that didn't stop this Mountain Magic from growing. It is over six feet tall.

Be well

(o_O)

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terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 24, 2013
11:50 AM

Post #9396217

Is that a fig off to the side? That looks good, too. Life is good...

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 24, 2013
1:30 PM

Post #9396318

That's a gorgeous big plant, Flyboy! How're the MM's tasting? They will get sweeter as the days lengthen out, too.

Here's my favorite "Revenge" shot for this week. A nice big Momotaro with "sandwich for dinner" written all over it. Not quite a beefsteak size, but close!

I have "Mountain Magic seedlings started to grow through spring, too. Bought a couple of new Earth Boxes for them just in case I need to find room.

Grape tomatoes still setting fruit and producing in spite of the cold nights we've had. The Momo plants are ripening off fruit that set a while back but have not set any new fruit for a month, so I'm thinking they'll be finished soon.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 24, 2013
2:22 PM

Post #9396381

WOW
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 25, 2013
8:57 AM

Post #9397179

Hmmmm...'mater sandwiches for supper...can't wait for that time of year to roll around again.

Thanks for the photos.
OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

January 26, 2013
3:08 PM

Post #9398424

Me either. For now can just dream and enjoy the ones I canned and froze from last year and plan my garden. Seeds are here but a little early yet to start.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 27, 2013
2:31 PM

Post #9399306

Not big enough for sandwiches -- but, mmmmmmm.

Be well

(o_O)

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drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 28, 2013
5:53 AM

Post #9399851

Great job !!!!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

January 28, 2013
8:48 AM

Post #9400100

Uh, what's the verdict on your Momos????

Been waiting to hear how you liked them.

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 28, 2013
10:29 AM

Post #9400216

They are delicious! So firm you don't think they're ripe, but when you cut into one, yum!

I've had so many this past two weeks I've been giving them away.But the plants are nearly done now. They stopped setting fruit when we had some cold nights a few weeks ago, so I'm either going to cut them back and fertilize once all the fruit is done, or remove them completely and plant my little Mountain Magic seedlings.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

January 28, 2013
10:34 AM

Post #9400221

Were your Momos sweet? Mine were. I love the sweet, with just a bit of tang. Too tangy, tomato-ey isn't for me.

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 28, 2013
5:49 PM

Post #9400644

Well, not particularly sweet, to be honest. Don't forget we're growing them in the "dead of winter" with the shortest days of the year just passed.

My tomatoes get a lot sweeter as the days get longer. So, I'll get back to you in May when we'll have a few hours more sun on those puppies.

As a kid, I grew up in British Columbia, where the days are extremely long in the summer, and the tomatoes are sweet as a peach.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 29, 2013
11:17 AM

Post #9401372

Cold nights?

We still have the AC on.

Be well

(o_O)
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 29, 2013
11:28 AM

Post #9401379

Flyboy-I have my A/C on but tonight it will go off as a cold front is coming. Even my HVAC is confused. Lol

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 29, 2013
1:18 PM

Post #9401590

Remember the old days when AC was new -- and the theaters advertised AIR COOLED. What it meant was that they had cakes of ice and fans blowing air across them. And the ice came from ponds where the ice was cut each winter into slabs (we are Bostonians) and stored in the "ice house" where straw was used as insulation to keep them from melting. And the iceman delivered it. We've come a long way -- baby.

Be well

(o_O)

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

January 29, 2013
2:46 PM

Post #9401675

I still remember the milk bottles on the front porch in the morning, and the bread man with the bell on his truck, coming down the street!

Sorry.

I digress...

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 29, 2013
4:01 PM

Post #9401787

Milk bottles? The cap was two inches above the rim when the weather was cold. And we never needed refrigerators (ice boxes) in the winter because we had a box outside on a ledge outside the kitchen window -- and the milk man used a sleigh in the winter because the snow wasn't plowed -- it was just rolled down -- and we could ice-skate on the streets. -- and the milkman's horse knew the route better than the man, because the man went through backyards and caught up with the horse.

Who needed it?

Be warm

(o_O).
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 29, 2013
11:45 PM

Post #9402161

Noo I don't remember that.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

January 30, 2013
7:16 AM

Post #9402389

I remember that the horse knew the route, cause sometimes the driver would be asleep!!!

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

January 30, 2013
7:23 AM

Post #9402402

Holy moly, no wonder you're living in Florida now!

I do remember having milk delivered in glass bottles, but the milkman always had a truck.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 30, 2013
5:27 PM

Post #9403118

Boy. You are just a kid.

Be well
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 31, 2013
8:03 AM

Post #9403664

We had milk delivered right up until we moved from the Chicago area.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 31, 2013
12:21 PM

Post #9403900

Texas???

You must have your own cows. How do they manage milking those cows with those long horns?\\

Be well

(o_O)
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 31, 2013
1:23 PM

Post #9403945

Hehehe, no don't own cows. Donkeys and goats and chickens and dogs...and roses and tomatoes and peas and green beans...

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

January 31, 2013
1:43 PM

Post #9403974

WOW.

What do you own -- a half-section?
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 4, 2013
8:07 AM

Post #9407979

I don't know what a half section is...sorry
hrp50
Carrollton, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 4, 2013
9:41 AM

Post #9408103

terri_emory
I believe you must be pulling our legs but a section of land is 1 square mile by 1 square mile containing 640 acres, so a half-section would be 320 acres..
JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 7b)

February 4, 2013
9:44 AM

Post #9408105

hrp- I also don't know what a half section is!
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 4, 2013
10:34 AM

Post #9408143

No, wasn't pulling you leg. I really didn't know ☺. Thank you for telling me/us. Must be something from the days when folks went out "west" and staked a claim. Maybe.

And I don't have near that much land (I wish).
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 4, 2013
2:47 PM

Post #9408439

So is 1 sq mile a 1/2section? I never was good at word problems...

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 4, 2013
2:51 PM

Post #9408444

Nope, 1 sq. mile is a section. I think hrp50 meant 1 mile by 1 mile = a section.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 4, 2013
3:07 PM

Post #9408466

Ok so 1 sq mile is a section?
eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 4, 2013
3:41 PM

Post #9408509

FlyBoy if you try to milk a cow by the horns you wont get much milk,To get the most milk you stand directly behind the cow and take her tail and pump up and down.
JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 7b)

February 4, 2013
4:13 PM

Post #9408539

??? I'm lost!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 4, 2013
5:29 PM

Post #9408629

And you get milk that way? By pumping the tail? No more drinking milk for me.

It all goes back to Cimarron (the movie) when they had the (was it Oklahoma) Land Rush.

The west was divided geometrically -- the Military system.

Six linear miles by six linear miles = 36 square miles = a Township.

One linear mile by one linear mile = one square mile = 640 acres = a Section.

The 640 acres were then divided into quarter-sections = 160 acres.

Two quarter-sections make a half-section = 320 acres.

Thanks, hrp, for explaining it for me.

Be well

(o_O)
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 8, 2013
6:46 AM

Post #9411919

LOL, thanks guys! Learn something new every day.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 9, 2013
7:14 AM

Post #9412961

They look great now.

here is my espaliered Mounin Magic. Seven feet tall and bearing.

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OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

February 12, 2013
5:42 AM

Post #9416393

Nice, flyboy! We've started growing our cherry and smaller toms (like Mtn Magic) on cattle panels staked in the ground. I rarely have to tie anything...just let them ramble and weave the vines in and out of the panel. I guess I should start using the 'fancy' espaliered name for that!! And it makes them so easy to pick from both sides.
eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 12, 2013
9:29 AM

Post #9416622

Outside I have been using the cattle panels for about five or 6 years they are great. Some people suspend them in a horizontal position about 3 feet off the ground and let them ramble and claim they get more production but I have not done this yet lol. Works good for some vine type squash ,cucumbers, peas, and string beans.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 12, 2013
10:29 AM

Post #9416677

"Cattle panels"

What do they look like?

Be well

(o_O)
OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

February 12, 2013
5:52 PM

Post #9417115

Here is a link that might be helpful. We buy them at Tractor Supply but any farm supply store probably would have them. They are fence panels you use to temporarily fence in livestock. Since they are 52" high, you can anchor them in the ground most anywhere in your garden and let the tomatoes trellis on them. I really like them for the small fruited tomatoes because they aren't as heavy and you can pick from either side, making it really easy. We take ours down and rotate the location season to season.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/feedlot-panel-combo-16-ft-l-x-52-in-h-3610341
OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

February 12, 2013
5:57 PM

Post #9417125

I forgot to say, eweed, I haven't tried put them 3 feet off the ground yet, lol! Or rotating them either! But you could sure get more 'vertical' growth that way! They are great and useful, especially for any vining type plant you can just poke the plant where you want it to grow.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 13, 2013
11:08 AM

Post #9417826

16 FEET LONG????

I am just a city boy -- with a city-sized lot.

But thanks

Be well

(o_O)
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 13, 2013
1:56 PM

Post #9417966

flyboyFL, some farm supply store will cut them for you into desired lengths. There's nothing like a good piece of cattle panel ☺. But you do need some room...

RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 13, 2013
3:54 PM

Post #9418149

And a truck big enough to get it home.
eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 13, 2013
10:54 PM

Post #9418480

Rick you can carry them home in a pick up truck. Takes a little care but lay it flat on the ground and stand on it close enough to one end pick it up and walk slowly backward. When you reach the flat end keep pulling the end you have been untill the two ends meet. Tie the two togeather you will Have a tear drop looking thing that you can haul even in a compact truck. The trick is pull gently and dont thow it around. When you get it home untie it and carefully reverse your steps.

I cut some of mine in 8 foot pcs and stick them straight up and grow string beans on them.

There are several configurations of these things, I now prefer the ones that have all the same size panel squares. I find just to many tomatoes that are inter woven in those that have the small sections at the bottom. If you do have that kind you should put the small sections to the top.Less tomatoes will get caught that way and it will be eaiser to keep the tomatoes from getting trapped.
pic 1 l to r Snap peas growing . The ones on the ground is one of my three goldens helped himself to some peas grrrr. Anyway look into the center and you can see the panels.

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OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

February 14, 2013
6:38 AM

Post #9418701

Beautiful gardens, eweed.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 14, 2013
8:04 AM

Post #9418813

Very Beautiful!
eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 14, 2013
9:27 AM

Post #9418915

ty lots of work though

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 14, 2013
10:07 AM

Post #9418950

Truly, the Garden of Weedin' huh. Just lovely.

The cattle panels are terrific. I think I'd cut a 16ft. section into 3 pieces for tomato trellises up the back side of my Earth Boxes.

I'll take my wire cutters with me to the store, and cut it up to fit in the truck.
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 14, 2013
5:19 PM

Post #9419277

[quote="dyzzypyxxy"]
I'll take my wire cutters with me to the store, and cut it up to fit in the truck. [/quote]

Sorry but it'll take more than wire cutters. We used large bolt cutters or a cordless reciprocating saw. They are hard to cut.

FlyboyFL ~ you are getting your revenge. I've been salivating in silence. Nice tomato crop this year... 8 )
eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 14, 2013
9:09 PM

Post #9419483

these pics show what I mean by the small sections will do you better at the top. Better yet just buy those of equal size squares.

oops I duped a pic sorry.

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eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 14, 2013
10:03 PM

Post #9419524

Sometimes I find things just to pretty not to share.

All except one of my goldens helping himself to my raspberrys.This is not pretty just discusting lol.

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OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

February 15, 2013
6:12 AM

Post #9419699

Hadn't thought about putting the small sections at the top, but then the tomatoes I use on the cattle panels are usually the smaller fruited ones and they don't hang quite as low either. Podster is correct - it will take something stronger than wire cutters as the panels are higher gauge wire and very stiff.

Eweed, your dog reminds me of a friend's setter who used to eat her small cukes. I don't have a problem with our Lab eating anything, fortunately. Just other critters! We've had to fence and use traps. Possums - Ugh!

drthor

drthor
Irving, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2013
6:26 AM

Post #9419708

eweed your tomatoes are amazing

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 15, 2013
7:17 AM

Post #9419766

I've got bolt cutters, and a DH with strong hands, too. Thanks all.

We're getting a last gasp at winter this weekend, so I think the tomatoes I have going now are just about done. PIcked these in the pics this morning.

New transplants ready to go in the refreshed Earth Boxes, and I'll have lots more tomatoes by April. Mmm. Mountain Magic, Black Pearl and Solar Fire to try to last into the hot weather a bit longer!

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 15, 2013
2:16 PM

Post #9420149

Beautiful photos. I am jealous.

So, out of desperation I am tending toward a new tomato (to me).

It is called Tomato "kumato." Lycopersicon lycopersicum. One of our newer "Sam's" just started carrying them. I haven't tried eating one yet, but they come highly recommended. Now I need more space.

Be well

(o_O)

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flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 15, 2013
2:22 PM

Post #9420155

A view of the kumato label

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RickCorey_WA

RickCorey_WA
Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2013
2:24 PM

Post #9420158

Thanks! I've found "re-mesh" panels that are smaller and flimsier than cattle panels but still too large to fit in my Ford Escort.

I used to think about using them bent into cages around tomato buckets, and whole as pole pea supports, but cutting one in half the long way would make it fit into my trunk ... I don't THINK it would drag on the ground.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 15, 2013
3:57 PM

Post #9420229

Delicious -- too.

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 15, 2013
4:41 PM

Post #9420290

Those Kumato fruits look a lot like my 'Black Pearl' variety of cherry tomatoes. They really were wonderful, and productive last spring. Mine were slightly more purple than brown, but my husband called them "those little brown tomatoes". (as he munched them every time he passed the plants)

Interesting that the label says they're from a Canadian company. Kingsville, Ontario with a Canadian postal code and even French on the label. Must be greenhouse, and/or hydroponic. I'm darned sure there aren't any tomatoes growing outdoors up there right now. Truly amazing they can grow enough to supply Sam's Clubs.

I'd hate to think they're being grown in Mexico or somewhere, shipped to Canada to be packaged then shipped again out to Sam's Clubs.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 15, 2013
8:32 PM

Post #9420514

At one time they were grown in Ventura County Ca. I think.

kevcarr59

kevcarr59
BUda, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 16, 2013
12:34 AM

Post #9420591

dizzy, saw in the earlier post you mentioned the Solar Fire, just a couple quick questions. Have you tried them before & would they be a decent tomato here for the Central Texas summer heat?

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 16, 2013
6:13 AM

Post #9420736

I already have some of the seeds fermenting -- and will start them as soon as they are ready.

The story on them is that they are not hybrids, so, maybe, it'll work. They are supposed to have a high germination rate, too.

They do have an unique taste -- sparkly.

i think that these i bought are being grown hydroponically.

Be well

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 16, 2013
7:31 AM

Post #9420811

Kev, this is my first try of Solar Fire, sorry! Will let you know how they do. We don't get super-hot in the daytimes like you do in Texas, but my daughter lives in Utah, and they had 3 weeks of over-100's last summer. Her tomatoes (Momotaro's that I sent her) in Earth Boxes did great. I think cool nights are the key. Plus lots of water.

Most tomatoes fizzle out in May or so, from the warm nights here. Sometimes the cherry tomato plants make it into July, but they don't set fruit after the nights get too warm. I just let them limp along until they ripen off all the fruit that's coming then yank the plants.

I don't think there's much in the way of produce coming out of CA this month. They had frosts in the last few weeks in Wine Country - look out! Price of Three Buck Chuck might be going up.

We are setting up for a hard frost in the northern counties here tonight and tomorrow night - Argh.
hrp50
Carrollton, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 20, 2013
2:56 PM

Post #9425809

Three buck chuck??? Whatever happened to two buck chuck? And we only recently got our Trader Joe"s.

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 20, 2013
8:16 PM

Post #9426179

I know, we just got TJ's here a few months ago, too. So three buck chuck sounds pretty good to us. Guess they had to keep up with Wal-Mart, huh?

You gotta know the world order is askew when the price of a bottle of wine is less than a gallon of gas . . .

About a dozen more tomatoes on my Momotaro plants, then they're coming out for the new plants. I did plant the Mtn. Magic transplants Monday in a new Earth Box. yay! It must be spring!
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 21, 2013
6:00 AM

Post #9426433

Wouldn't it be fun if we could run our vehicles on wine! Think of the possibilities!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 21, 2013
7:50 AM

Post #9426602

There'd be a run on the vineyards, for sure!!!
hrp50
Carrollton, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 21, 2013
10:42 AM

Post #9426792

What a waste of wine using it to run vehicles. Wine is for drinking, sorry, for sipping .

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

February 21, 2013
11:10 AM

Post #9426808

I cartoon envision drunk vehicles , instead of drunk drivers.
IT use to make sense dragsters and quarter mile racers running on alcohol confined to a race track.
Gasahol out dates my humor , Only one could envision half drunk vehicles already , maybe that was what was wrong with all the Toyota cars going crazy last year ,,lol
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 21, 2013
2:04 PM

Post #9426982

Boone's Farm Apple Wine? ☺

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2013
7:47 AM

Post #9427738

"Boone"s Farm Apple Wine."

That is wrong on sooooooooo many levels! LOLOL!
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 22, 2013
9:16 AM

Post #9427824

But it would be perfect for fueling a vehicle LOL too!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2013
9:33 AM

Post #9427835

Pro'ly zero to 120 mph in 6 seconds!

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 22, 2013
4:43 PM

Post #9428298

We were supposed to haveflying cars by now. Late chime in- Sooners know what sections are. Texas didnt bother with sections. Longhorns arent bred for milk production, chuckle, but I dare say they''d be more easily milked than those Mexican cows. If you got the ones of the proper gender to start with. Those tomatoes make me hungry- and I love figs. Sigh.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 23, 2013
8:45 AM

Post #9428865

Kitt~

Is that what highways look like in Texas?

How does one keep from falling off into space? Ugghh. Thank G-d that they are flat in Florida.

Here is today's crop.

Be well

(o_O)

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kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 23, 2013
12:55 PM

Post #9429042

Hey guys? Those with closer bars on one end aren't cattle panels- they are hog panels. Bull panels are spaced all the same distances apart. that is just the way straighttalk phones load into DG. I usually dont have enuff wifi to get the laptop out- nor go slowly enuff to catch a pic of anything except bug splatters... That device was down in Breckenridge- it is set up for wine vines.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 23, 2013
1:54 PM

Post #9429107

OMG-Kitt I've been thinking.." those look like hog panels to me". I just thought they were called different things in different places. What is a "wine vines"?

Flyboy-what kind of peppers are in your picture? As far as Texas Highways, they aren't all on their side lol but that's pretty much the view on I10. All the way from east of El Paso to Junction, it is beautiful but desolate. I always wonder about the people that lived there yrs ago...

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 23, 2013
5:27 PM

Post #9429321

1lisac:

Gotcha!

They are carambola (aka Starfruit)

You don't see them like this in the stores. They pick them green -- and sour. They are delicious when ripened on the tree.

Be well

(o_O)
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 23, 2013
5:45 PM

Post #9429337

Thank you! I would never have recognized them as Star Fruit.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 23, 2013
6:09 PM

Post #9429363

Wine vines- grapes. Breckenridge, Texas has both wildseedfarms and is the heart of Texas wine country- including tasting testing, :)
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 23, 2013
6:47 PM

Post #9429397

I know I live a couple hrs from the Wild Seed Farms. I thought you meant grapes but...thanks!

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 23, 2013
6:54 PM

Post #9429407

O you do? ! Ha i go find my atlas and look stuff up. Am so tired I AM goofy- and peering as squint eyed as Mr Magoo at this phone screen...
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 23, 2013
9:44 PM

Post #9429482

Isn't it by Fredicksberg and Stonewall? I've never heard of Breckenridge?

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 23, 2013
10:59 PM

Post #9429514

Fredericjsburg, yes. Breckenridge is north of Abilene. Too many plsces in one day...

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 24, 2013
6:43 AM

Post #9429655

It's a ski resort in Colorado . . How'd we stray so far from talking about tomatoes?

The last of the grapes, so to speak.

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kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 24, 2013
6:48 AM

Post #9429661

Tomatoes? How abt just everything! Growing along... chuckle. Like our plants, there are Always 'support' issues...

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 25, 2013
8:03 AM

Post #9430905

For people with narrow lots.

Be well

(o_O)

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Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 25, 2013
8:13 AM

Post #9430921

That is soooooooooooooooo wrong, on so many levels...LOLOLOL:O:O:

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 25, 2013
8:13 AM

Post #9430922

This is going to be one big red bullseye. Mountain Magics

(o_O)

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

February 25, 2013
8:16 AM

Post #9430926

Gymgirl:

Please do jnot tell Carolyn. This'll be our little secret.

Be well

(o_O)
terri_emory
Alba, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 25, 2013
8:16 AM

Post #9430930

I learned the same: spacers and the bottom are closer--hog wire; spacers the same--cattle panels. But when we got here to Texas they call both the same. So we just go with the flow...

Love that photo of red grape tomatoes, dyzzypyxxy. Can't wait for some red tom's to start showing up around here!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 25, 2013
8:17 AM

Post #9430933

LOL!

"don't tell Carolyn."

You really think that anything gets by her???

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

February 25, 2013
8:28 AM

Post #9430950

They do that cuz of same cost in the puter saves time n effort. Most folks know which look they want and dont raise hogs anymore. I wouldnt get the panels, I would buy a roll of lighter gauge fencing and cut to size tween tposts anyway. They are heavy enough not to crush under plant weight tho.

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

February 25, 2013
11:23 AM

Post #9431184

I have clusters of those red grape toms, but the plants are nearly bare of leaves, so they just aren't getting much sweeter now. Think it's time . . I have new plants waiting.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 14, 2013
9:44 AM

Post #9483507

The last tomatoes of winter.

(But the next crop is soon getting plnated. They are already six inches high.)

Be well

(o_O)

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 14, 2013
10:31 AM

Post #9483563

Hm, ya might be a bit late on the new planting, flyboy. Once the night temps get higher, fruit set is slowed down or stops completely here.

My new ones went in over a month ago and are already 3ft high with lots of little fruit.

Mountain Magic in the first two pics with my finger for size ref. Solar Fire (heat tolerant, supposedly) in the other Earth Box. Eggplant 'Purple Rain' and a big flower head on my Cardinal basil.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 14, 2013
7:22 PM

Post #9484175

WOW ! !

I just did not have the heart to pull the old plants out until they were finished.

I will try to catch up.

Be well

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 14, 2013
8:11 PM

Post #9484228

Yep, I know about not wanting to pull out the old plants, too!

Being as I'm further inland than you, we got colder during that cold March, which slammed the old plants down for me even though I covered them. Made it easier to pull them. But I did start seeds for the spring crop in December, so the new plants were pretty big when I planted them.

Your bowl of fruit looks wonderful still. This will be my first taste of Mountain Magic, can't wait!

Then once summer is here, in another month . . . well, we'll just have to make do with mangoes and lychees and papayas and pineapples, I guess. Mango tree is loaded, and still blooming, too!

Did I tell you how much I like the title of this thread?

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 15, 2013
8:58 AM

Post #9484812

Right.

The mango is now in its second blooming -- and setting. And this will b e the first real fruiting on the lychee.

Be well

(o_O)

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dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 15, 2013
10:47 AM

Post #9484959

I think lychees are like avocado, some varieties have a heavy bearing year, then a light one.

Mine may be having a light year this year, as I haven't seen much bloom. Could be it started blooming when it was so warm in Feb. then got zapped by the cold in March.

Do what you can to keep the squirrels away from them. I got nearly no fruit last year, but had fat squirrels running around with their little bellies dragging on the ground.

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 15, 2013
12:43 PM

Post #9485104

I have this little metal contraption with a trap door -- that works very well. It is called HAV A HART

Be well

(o_O)
eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 15, 2013
12:50 PM

Post #9485115

I have this wonderful contraption made of wood and steel called Winchester.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6a)

April 15, 2013
12:56 PM

Post #9485120

Brings to mind this a 3x4 garden bed that no longer has any plants .. !! Meet the visitor ...


Smiling away after lunch!!!

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 15, 2013
5:43 PM

Post #9485288

eweed~

Deep down, I am with you. Mine is a J>C>Higgins with a 10X scope.

Be well

(o_O)
eweed
Everson, WA
(Zone 8a)

April 16, 2013
12:28 AM

Post #9485619

yes scopes are good things.But resist the urge to shoot them.

I went to the trouble to save seeds from a store tomato with Campre(sp) on the label. Then later I see it described as Mountain Magic so what gives

OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

April 16, 2013
5:40 AM

Post #9485757

Possums here - caught several in the trap last year and probably missed a few, but it certainly helped me gain a few melons. My neighbor caught (and released several miles away) over 2 dozen squirrels. His wife won't let him shoot them. I, on the other hand, say fire away. We are overpopulated in the country. The birds suffer and I have squirrel guards on every feeder.

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

April 16, 2013
6:27 AM

Post #9485798

Colorado is at it again, They may get to shovel snow t nex year at this rate

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 16, 2013
7:02 AM

Post #9485831

I confess -- I have not shot any marauders here in FL. I have caught and released two possums. (Boy -- they are ugly, close up.) The latest one had been gobbling up poison pellets like they were M&M's. He has been relocated to a park frequented by camping snowbirds who will provide him well with garbage. The trapped squirrels wind up in the same place. It is four bridges removed -- so they will have to swim to return.

The war has not been finally resolved.

Camparis vis--vis Mountain Magic. the Campari seeds are not sold. Mine are now seventh generation from the originals I ate several years ago. The MM's are supposed to be the closest, commercially sold, to the Camparis.

Be well

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 16, 2013
7:19 AM

Post #9485849

Interesting, I have possums but they never touch my fruit or veggies. I haven't grown melons lately, though. Squirrels and raccoons are my problems. I do trap the raccoons, with my Hav-a-hart, and the nice lady from animal control comes and takes them away.

We're in the city, so not allowed to discharge firearms. I have a plastic "assault rifle" that fires biodegradeable pellets. Don't want to deal with dead bodies anyway, so I just wanted to scare the little varmints, but the first one I got, the pellets went so slowly that if I did manage to hit a squirrel, they'd turn around and look at me with "is that all you got??" Now I have a better, more accurate one that gets their attention. But if I can blast them with the hose, that's the best scare.

I hang reflective things like CD's in my mango tree, have owl decoys, spray with stuff called "Critter Ridder" and still find my gorgeous mangoes on the ground with one squirrel bite taken out of them! GRR.

My kids bought me a fancy "squirrel proof" birdfeeder for Xmas one year, and it works except . . . of course the durned birds spill about half the seeds all over the ground. So I hung a net made of screening under the feeder. Now most of the seeds stay up off the ground, the squirrels clean out the net and don't bother the birds, and the cat doesn't get the little birds that otherwise eat the seeds off the ground.

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 16, 2013
9:18 AM

Post #9485958

Sounds like the jungle.

Be careful.

(o_O)

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 16, 2013
9:23 AM

Post #9485974

Some days, I look out the window at a cute little squirrel scurrying along the ground looking for a nut that he buried, that I dug up as soon as he buried it...

And, then, my peaceful reverie is broken as my brain snaps to it and reminds me that this cute, scurrying little creature is, in all actuality, a RODENT!!!!!!!! And, visions of its cousins, the rats and the mice, take its place!

LOL!

flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 16, 2013
10:37 AM

Post #9486092

You have to be strong. The fuzzy tails get the squirrel a lot of sympathy -- but they ruin more fruit than they actually eat..

They -- and their long-legged cousins the deer -- probably cause more automobile accidents than anything else.

Be well

(o_O)

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 16, 2013
10:41 AM

Post #9486097

So true! They are cute, and graceful and incredibly agile. But SUCH pests.
OutsidePlaying
Laceys Spring, AL
(Zone 7a)

April 17, 2013
6:00 AM

Post #9486953

Your nice, 'squirrel-proof' feeder may work for a while, but our squirrels are pretty smart. Before I got the baffle for the pole, they destroyed the ring on one of mine (Wild-Birds Unlimited replaced it since they are guaranteed for life). I even had to scrounge for the little metal posts that hold the ring - they were laying on the ground & the buggers had worked them out to get to the seeds! I saw one of the squirrels on the pole, stretched out and working like mad to get to the seed holes. That did it for me. I've bought baffles ever since. I do like the net you have below it though. I have mourning doves also that scrounge the ground for the seeds, so I let them have at it.

dyzzypyxxy

dyzzypyxxy
Sarasota, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 17, 2013
6:56 AM

Post #9487046

Over 2 years with the squirrel-proof feeder, so far so good. The other feeder, see pic, has turned out to be sort of squirrel-proof, too.

Instead of baffles, I've got metal poles, and grease them with Super Lube applied with an old toothbrush. It's fun seeing them try to climb the slippery pole. The squirrels can get to the net easily by climbing up the little fig tree next to it, but they so far have left the feeder alone. (fingers crossed)

I'm thinking they're pretty satisfied with all the seed they get from the net. Darn grackles are such sloppy eaters!

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flyboyFL

flyboyFL
Longboat Key, FL

April 17, 2013
8:37 AM

Post #9487193

That greased pole does the trick.

Used to use it back in Princeton. I used Vaseline. It was fun to watch their faces as they slid down.

(o_O)

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