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2ndChance
Tempe, AZ
(Zone 9b)

October 20, 2012
12:40 PM

Post #9310673

Does anyone leave their plumeria outside over the winter in Phx? If so, are they in pots or in-ground? Do you cover them in frost warnings?
MickeyAz
Cave Creek, AZ

October 21, 2012
10:55 AM

Post #9311314

Tempe can be much warmer than Phoenix. However I have a friend that lives in town around 59 and Thunderbird. She has her trees up against the house and planted in the ground. They have been doing much better since they have been in the ground too. For winter be sure to mulch them, put old style Christmas bulbs on them for added heat and put pool noodles on all of the branches. Frost cloth is nice but you can buy old sheets and blankets at thrift stores. Keep plastic off of them as it will cause damage but you can then cover the sheets or blankets with the plastic.
I think it also depends of what type of plumeria that you have.
It is much colder at our house so everything goes inside for the winter except my oleander pots.
If you don't have them in the ground wait till next year or e mail me and I will connect you with a few friend that are growing plumeria in that area. I'm not sure if I would plant them now or now but your soil is much warmer that in Cave Creek.
Mickey
kyleaz@earthlink.net.
allgr8dogs
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

October 21, 2012
8:05 PM

Post #9311731

Hmmm...I have mine in pots but I've been thinking of planting them in the ground next summer. I have too many pots that are too big to bring inside now...
Crista
Gilbert, AZ

October 21, 2012
8:31 PM

Post #9311779

I've got three in the ground and have had them there for two winters successfully, and one in a pot that I bring up on my back patio. I do protect the plumies in the ground when freezing temps are forecast: wrap them in rolled up towels (like how you'd fold them after laundry in half like a taco then in half like a taco again) then use duck tap to hold the towels on. For the growing tip I put quilt batting inside a styrofoam cup and tape that on.

Now, they grew like crazy this summer and the towels plan would be ridiculous. So my plan is to get the closed cell foam pipe insulation - it's open on one side has the hole cut in the middle - and tape it around the branches and use the styro cup thing again on the tips.

I pulled them up three years ago and stored them in the garage but for me it was more of a pain than insulating them and leaving them in the ground. Gotta say the insulated look is weird and not for everybody. Will be interested in how others handle this situation. My plumies in the ground grew a lot more than the one in the pot...and one of them blossomed (happy sigh!).
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

October 22, 2012
8:29 PM

Post #9312708

i am no help! all of mine come inside. it gets too cold down here to worry about them all winter.
2ndChance
Tempe, AZ
(Zone 9b)

October 25, 2012
11:24 AM

Post #9315128

From Valley of the Sun Plumeria Society:

"Hi - Thanks for writing.
Yes, you can plant your plumerias in the ground. I would do it next Spring to get them acclimated the full year.

And yes, they will have to be covered on freezing days in our winters. Anytime the temp goes below 32, there will be frozen plumerias, just like any other plant.

You can cover them with frost cloth, sheets, light them, add a heating element - or you can dig them up and place them in your garage and plant them in the Spring again.

Hope this helps."

So I'm going to leave them in the pots in the location where I intend to plant them in the spring. So I can analyze the sun situation before I commit. Heck, maybe I'll leave them there next all summer too.
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

October 25, 2012
11:30 AM

Post #9315139

what out for pots in the winter rains. it is completely different if they are planted in the ground.
2ndChance
Tempe, AZ
(Zone 9b)

October 26, 2012
2:34 PM

Post #9316286

You mean they could get water-logged?
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

November 3, 2012
10:01 PM

Post #9324042

they would stay cold and wet. they should not get water-logged if the soil drains well.
2ndChance
Tempe, AZ
(Zone 9b)

February 3, 2013
1:04 PM

Post #9407150

So I put socks over the tips plus a sheet when it got cold. Nothing else. They are uncovered now and look fine.
Crista
Gilbert, AZ

February 5, 2013
8:35 AM

Post #9409144

I covered mine with layers of parachute. One of 'em has growing tips that are shriveling, but the other two look fine. So what happens after the tips shrivel?
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

February 6, 2013
7:45 AM

Post #9410111

Crista, how cold did you get? Is the plumeria in the ground or in a pot? Can you post a pic of the shriveled tip?

We had five consecutive nights of 22 - 28. Just brutal cold! I left 16 plumies on the patio in pots. Yeah, not a good idea!
frogymon
Lisle, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 6, 2013
8:13 AM

Post #9410138

We had similar results here, actually getting down to 20 on 2 consecutive nights and my one and only plumeria was on the front porch; the verdict is still out on its' survival.
Crista
Gilbert, AZ

February 6, 2013
11:21 AM

Post #9410284

We got down to 18 where I am. The trunk part of the plummies okay so far.

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RODICAP
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

February 6, 2013
6:23 PM

Post #9410684

I keep the two I have outside all year but I place them on the patio when it gets too cold and it got very cold. 19 degrees cold. I use several sheets to 'seal' the patio with all the frost sensitive plants. They are fine and will go out in their place this weekend.
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

February 7, 2013
6:04 PM

Post #9411585

here comes more cold for us! stay warm and toasty!
allgr8dogs
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9b)

February 7, 2013
10:19 PM

Post #9411740

Boo for this too cold weather!
sonorarat
Yuma, AZ
(Zone 10a)

February 18, 2013
12:10 PM

Post #9423264

Crista,new branches should emerge from old leaf scars below the damaged tip,hopfully you will get more than one.
Crista
Gilbert, AZ

February 18, 2013
6:09 PM

Post #9423685

Thanks sonorarat! I'm translating that into "It'll look cool with more branches!"
sonorarat
Yuma, AZ
(Zone 10a)

February 19, 2013
7:55 AM

Post #9424191

yes and more chances for inflows,here is a rare picture of spidery yellow firing off all her tips at once

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Crista
Gilbert, AZ

February 19, 2013
7:47 PM

Post #9424917

Oh WOW! That's gorgeous! Only one of my plumeria have ever bloomed, but their pretty young plants.
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

February 23, 2013
10:07 AM

Post #9428929

very nice spidery yellow! yuma has had a nice winter!
EileenAZ
Tucson, AZ
(Zone 9a)

February 23, 2013
8:37 PM

Post #9429461

Fortunately, Mr Mr opened up his shop to the most frost-sensitive of our plants before the Big Freeze! I was so thankful, and the plumies are still in there. No rot or badness on them. Woohoo!
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

February 25, 2013
11:01 AM

Post #9431152

Eileen, that was awfully kind of Mr Mr. I lost about 16 plumies in the BFF! We need to catch up, friend. You keep ignoring me. haha! j/k
EileenAZ
Tucson, AZ
(Zone 9a)

March 3, 2013
2:04 PM

Post #9437676

I am not ignoring you! I just have a nerf ball where mybrain should be, that's all.

I'm kind of surprised- people are telling me what a horrible winter this has been, but with being able to use the shop for the really tender plants and finally having sufficient frost cloths, I consider this to be one of the most glorious winters weather-wise I can remember. For me, not the plants, obviously.
tucsonplumeriaz
Tucson, AZ

March 3, 2013
4:12 PM

Post #9437815

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