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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 28, 2012
8:22 PM

Post #9318545

Where did October go? It's almost November and the seeds are sprouting all over the country, there's fresh green growth on our winter ravaged plants and hope springs eternal as we look at all the seedlings from crosses we have made or imported...
We are so fortunate that we haven't had to wait many years to be able to produce the beautiful flowers that we are seeing each year, as our hybridising efforts come to fruition...the hard work has been done by others.
From now on, our beauties will be showing their best, some better than last year...I wonder what this season will bring, it's all so exciting and it doesn't seem to be waning at all...
So thanks for the previous posts and pics and don't forget to post all the interesting things that happen in your corner of this Brugmansia world...
I am expecting flowers for the first time from many of the 2 yr olds shown in this pic...
We came from here.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1284253/#post_9317555

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 28, 2012
8:31 PM

Post #9318555

Jean, could you post your Ivoire pics over here, so I can look at them..(proud mother syn)...lol
All of my seedlings are in their little plastic house and most are growing well.
The ones in the bucket at the bottom of the pic had to move out due to lack of space...

My aerator is bubbling away and the Autumn Sunset cuttings have nubbies all over the first 6 ins of their length...DP&G have their first tiny nubbies, they went into the water on Friday...the only one that hasn't produced yet is a large cutting that I had planted a month ago and it just sat there, no rot, but no growth either.
So that went in on Friday too...we'll see if it helps in the bubbler..
Dianne

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

October 28, 2012
9:25 PM

Post #9318591

okey dokey , Dianne.
Heres your Ivoire fix for the day...lol

Now you know how potty I am over GHA...

These are just taken ... A very aurea look to her.
She is dainty but I am sure, as you say, she will grow much larger flowers when the plant matures.
The last pic is a closeup to show the pretty lemon & white stripes on her at the moment.
Do you see this too , on yours ?

Jean.

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 28, 2012
10:09 PM

Post #9318607

Lovely pics Jean,
Colleen was asking about the lemon in Ivoire, mine seem to get their cream colour very quickly, so I don't see the lemon stripes...mind you I have no hope of a close up now...I'll have to wait for my cutting to flower to see them up close...
The buds are just starting here and I can't wait to see those long spidery,corolla tips waving around...
Dianne.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

October 28, 2012
10:33 PM

Post #9318610

Dianne your garden looks like a Monet painting you must be quite proud of it YES

Jean & Dianne love the Ivoire i have not had it bloom for me as yet but i have it oout with the aurea's

Im thinking about getting rid of the Knightii's as i have 5 of them from all over the state 1 looks like it's frost tolerant come back really quick after the July 9th frosts in Melbourne another also didnt get attacked as much as the others by mites last season and there is one that is about to bloom earlier then all the others so the other 2 are still small and i have not found any thing that would want me to keep them!!!!

I have just received 12 seed of Welwitschia mirabilis which is a conifera from Africa very rare and even more unusual, Im just reading up on the propigation notes while im typing so i hope to have some pics of the soon i will also send some pics to the Tea room to see what all would have to say about this plant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welwitschia
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 28, 2012
10:49 PM

Post #9318613

It's good to have things bloom. the one in bud in picture 1 is Shaun White Ruff and 2 & 3 behind the big black pot is Dianne Pink Panther x noid

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 28, 2012
11:04 PM

Post #9318616

Shaun, what a weird looking thing...if you can get those seeds growing it will be amazing to follow it's progress...good luck.
Ivoire won't be long in flowering for you...

Gena, everything in your garden is very lush and thriving by the look of things...nice to see the PP seedling growing so well for you...well done.

Dianne
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 28, 2012
11:50 PM

Post #9318624

The 2 picture I put in BGI of Golden Lion.

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Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 28, 2012
11:51 PM

Post #9318625

Thank you.
77sunset
Merino
Australia

October 29, 2012
4:21 AM

Post #9318684

Shaun, I am a bit like you. I now have about 5 double whites, all Knightii.
I find some do get mites rather badly and I just dont like the flowers going brown so quickly.
Mine are not looking so good after winter. and are just taking up room I could use for prettier ones.
I may keep one and toss the rest.
The arboreas are now starting to look nice & lush after winter too.
I like them much more than the Knightii.

Jean

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 29, 2012
5:57 PM

Post #9319562

Good morning everyone ...it went well at the Specialists yesterday, paid 250.00 just to be told to keep doing the same thing as we are now. Not bad considering they wanted to take hubby's finger off just a couple of weeks ago.

Gena I forgot to tell you that I think your Frilly Pink is probably Crinoline or at least it looks just like my Crinoline. Your garden looks lovely.

Shaun I see your pics in the Gallery today, I hope that means the folks across the pond are still ok, it sure looks frightening over there.

I found a lovely sight when I went out this morning (midst the rampant weeds)
Melissa Amy is starting up ...so many lovely colours in her, I know from experienve she will become a lovely solid colour but for now, I am so knocked out by her multi colours ! so pretty (to me anyways).
I hope you all have a lovely arvo ...overcast day here. Approx 23C at the moment. Hotter later.

Here is Melissa Amy ...it's kind of crowded in this area ...(cottage garden area)

chrissy :-)

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Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 29, 2012
6:39 PM

Post #9319606

Hi to all, My heart goes out to them in the east US with Sandy, I not how it feels, The wind sound, the water, its goes on. Thank you Chrissy for that, it is hard with a picture, picture 1 is Shaun White Ruff 2 Golden Lion ( darking with colour and as big as Mango Cornet ) 3 Golden Lion 4 noid pink 5 noid Pink

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Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 29, 2012
6:55 PM

Post #9319621

1 Grand Marner ( not from eBay is getting dark) 2 same and Damain x Buck Fizz beside ( White ) 3 Buck Fizz 4 Mango Cornet ( I will put blooms together Mango Cornet & Golden Lion )

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 29, 2012
8:17 PM

Post #9319721

What a feast for the eyes !!!!

Gena is that Grand Marnier or Grand Mariner ?
If it is Grand Marnier then that Brug is not correct because it should be gold to orange, not pink.

As far as I know Grand Mariner does not exist in Australia.I have heard it mentioned on some sites though it may have been a misspelling of Grand Marnier..
There is a Grand Marnier Pink in the USA (not here)

I have to say that the Golden Lion looks very much like Mango cornet, though it may be just the pictures.
Domain and Bucks Fizz look lovely too.
Beautiful pictures no matter what they are :-)
cestrum_SEQ
West of Brisbane
Australia

October 29, 2012
8:40 PM

Post #9319739

When I first got those multicolours on one bloom, I didn't really like them and hoped that the brug would settle down and mature into one colour. (Which it did: pink.) But now I really like that multicoloured effect!
Gena, your brugs look spectacular; you seem to have gone from a few brugs to a gardenful of blooming brugs very quickly :-) I wonder if your 'Grand Marnier' will stay pink? Esp. beautiful photos of your Golden Lion; those toothed leaves are particularly attractive.
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 30, 2012
1:48 AM

Post #9319798

Golden Lion has more colour now, then Mango Cornet and the leafs are more tooth then Mango Cornet.
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 30, 2012
1:58 AM

Post #9319801

Golden Lion stated pale, at first, next day more colour, ( some do ) My Mango Cornet do not change much from first day till next.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 30, 2012
2:19 AM

Post #9319809

Gena I have asked for a place in the Gallery for Red Hot Pink, I will let you know when it pops up, as you can understand it may be a day or three as there are many problems due to 'Sandy'. :)
Thankyou for the description of the differences between your two look alikes.

cestrum ...I love the different faces of the Brugs, I think the singles are so Elegant as they unfurl, while the doubles can look like Aliens until they fill out. Some of the doubles even look like they have the measles sometimes as the specks of colours creep in. Fascinating ...I think these funny multi colours show up when the temps are madly bouncing around from hot to cold/overcast to full on hot Sun. Just my experience here of course.

chrissy
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

October 30, 2012
2:21 AM

Post #9319811

Thank you so much.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

October 30, 2012
2:35 AM

Post #9319817

Gena love the array of blooms your garden has at the moment Stunning
Chrissy Melissa Amy even in this form is quite pretty but she will get her blush back with more constant weather

DID you see the Newest to to Brug Stables Brugmansia 'Fruit Salad' a hybrid of Georgia Peach x.Lizzy by Elizabeth Fichtl very stunning multi color brug that holds it color
and then there is the B.x.'Sam' x.'Birgit' with a yellow star with a pink skirt by Edna Murphree
looks like multi color corollas are here this year and we will be seeing many more im sure

Not much happening here at the moment but have buds all over the place
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

October 30, 2012
3:37 AM

Post #9319842

Chrissy, I thought that "Red Hot Pink" was Munchausen? Colleen
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

October 30, 2012
4:01 AM

Post #9319854

Colleen its the other way around the correct name or valid name is Red Hot Pink and Munchausen Pink is a Synonym of it so it was put on it after wards by your garden 2006

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 30, 2012
4:25 AM

Post #9319863

Good memory Colleen...Munchausen Pink and Red Hot Pink are one and the same...maybe.
Alistair said that Munchausen Pink was being traded as Red Hot Pink in that article he wrote for Your Garden.
but that was back in 2006...and things change...

Now when I look at the known cultivars on BGI, it states that Red Hot Pink is used for 2 different cvs, easily distinguished by the calyx...

This is what it says...
B. ‘Red Hot Pink’ is applied even by its introducer to two different but very easily distinguished clones in Australia, one with a slit calyx exceeding half the length of the corolla tube, the other with a relatively shorter slit or toothed calyx. The name was established in association with the former clone and the latter should be separately named.

So which one does Gena have?
Dianne






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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 30, 2012
5:08 AM

Post #9319878

Red Hot Pink is established and excepted.
http://www.brugmansia.us/cultivars/cultivars.html/_/1951
Read Alistair's note on this re clone.

Buck's Fizz is established but not accepted.
http://www.brugmansia.us/cultivars/cultivars.html/_/1468

A lot of names are established (known-therefore recognized) but not accepted for registration.

chrissy :-)

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 30, 2012
5:50 AM

Post #9319910

Chrissy, I was reading about RHP and changing my post while you were posting...lol

What I want to know now is how Red Hot Pink can be used as an official name, when Alistair said the a purely descriptive name was unacceptable...

So many questions and it's getting late.
I put off posting your cuttings until tomorrow so they won't have to travel in the heat.
Dianne.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 30, 2012
6:18 AM

Post #9319941

I am up late watching a funny movie ...well funny and sad ...check out the beginning of this scene everyone.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x761km_about-schmidt-jacuzzi-scene-the-mov_shortfilms
Just the beginning don't blink or you will miss it ...what do you see to the left of the hot tub ?????
great idea !

I hope it works :-)

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 30, 2012
6:23 AM

Post #9319951

Sorry Dianne ...I see lots of descriptive names in the Brug thingy ...I am no expert, so I don't know the answer to that.
Off to bed, the movie is finishing.
Goodnight :-)

chrissy

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 30, 2012
6:51 AM

Post #9319984

Yes it did work... just imagine the perfume while you soak...
I haven't seen that movie, but anything Jack is in is always interesting.
Dianne.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 30, 2012
2:16 PM

Post #9320395

Glad it worked for you ...catch up with the Movie if you can,it's very good.
Good morning everyone ...a hot one on the way today.

Gena here is your spot :-)

http://www.brugmansia.us/forums/index.php?/gallery/category/1077-red-hot-pink/
thanks for your contribution to the Gallery, it helps so much.

Back later, enjoy your morning.

chrissy

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 30, 2012
7:57 PM

Post #9320680

I contacted Alistair re RHP and he said that while using a purely descriptive name is not recommended it is not a reason for the cv to be rejected as far as the rules go.
Alistair said that it was very easy to see the difference, so we need to put the 2 cvs side by side.

So Colleen, scrub Munchausen Pink, use Red Hot Pink until we can tell which is which...
Dianne.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

October 30, 2012
8:22 PM

Post #9320693

Well I have both of what I believe are muchausen pink and Red Hot Pink
So I may be able to help out when they bloom MP has a bloom on it but RHP is still a bit away from blooming
Will be interesting to see the difference

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 30, 2012
9:06 PM

Post #9320740

Fantastic Shaun, now we won't have to rely on comparing pics with each other.
When either of them flowers again could you please post lots of pics...

In the off chance your's are the same, my friend has the Garden Express one and Colleen has hers so with Gena's as well, hopefully one will be different as you say...considering they are all from different areas, one end of the country to the other. we should be lucky...
Has anyone else got them?

The second pod of the first PP fasc cross twins, has ripened...so whoever asked for that cross, it won't be long...still no sign of the second cross ripening.
Dianne.

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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia

October 30, 2012
11:43 PM

Post #9320775

Hi all.
A bit late.
http://www.4bc.com.au/blogs/4bc-blog/huanduj-brugmansia/20120618-20jlg.html
W.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 31, 2012
12:39 AM

Post #9320782

Thanks Wayne, it would be so pleasant just to open the book and have Alistair's voice read the contents to us.
Alistair, read page 210, paragraph 2 ...ooohhh that's a very lazy thought isn't it...but he has a very pleasant voice...lol
Dianne.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

October 31, 2012
1:43 AM

Post #9320791

Yes I agree ...a talking book in that wonderful accent. It would teach us how to pronounce some of the tongue twisters too.

Wayne ...it was lovely to hear Clair too, I know her from FB and what a delightful lady she is too.
I didn't know she was hooked on Brugs ...I knew she loved the pics but to find another Brug nut is great :-)

Gena thankyou for posting your pics in the Gallery, as for which clone is which, well we will wait and see who pops up with the differing calyx. A clone, but a little difference ...I guess it's like our clones of Knightii (still Knightii ) it can be a little confusing to a mere gardener such as my self. I think I get it though, if the clone shows a real visible difference then it can be a different plant.

I went outside after the hot wind this arvo (just on dusk) ...the 28 spotted ladybirds @#$%^^&^% are in plague proportions and I can't reach many of them to squish. Any clues from anyone (I don't use poisons). It makes the leaves look like lace in some of the taller Brugs.

You can see them in this first shot ...the blooms are blowing about in the warm wind ...yuk.
One of Melissa Amy 's blooms is shredded ...I think because of the branch below it rubbing on the bloom while it was forming, but as stated before, I see this shredding when the temps are bouncing around. She has a lovely fragrance :-)
I love Knightii (3 ...blowing in warm wind .
Last Pic shows the sun going down with it's golden rays hitting Melissa Amy ...I love the way the light changes our colour perceptions don't you ?

Have a great night everyone.
chrissy


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SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

October 31, 2012
3:20 PM

Post #9321363

Well it looks like a wet day here in Melbourne, many plants with buds and I can already see white fly on a few plants so this long weekend I will look after them and feed also
What an array of flowers Chrisy
I hope it's all ok I'm your neck of te woods with the weather

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

October 31, 2012
8:53 PM

Post #9321632

Edna has posted that she has found fasciation on one of her Brugmansias...she will post pics tomorrow.

Here are some Pink Panther pics.
The second one is interesting, I love the waxy shine on the young flowers...
There were 2 flowers out yesterday, but today zero...all blown to kingdom come.

Gena is going to post some closeups of the calyx and corolla on her RHP when she can...
I looked at her previous pic, but it was hard to tell, the calyx may have been damaged...

You're right about the effect the light has on the flowers Chrissy...I loved "The Dancer" with the light behind it.
Dianne

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 1, 2012
3:44 AM

Post #9321697

I have Red Hot Pink too ...it hasn't bloomed yet but hopefully this next season. It will be interesting.

I think PP is a very special Brug ...in all her dresses. You can't help but be enchanted by her.

It's a been an uncomfortable day here, very hot and windy.

Dianne I heard this song (from long ago) in my mind when you mentioned The Dancer, I loved it years ago and still do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyqDHS5koyo&feature=related

No answers re 28 spotted ladybirds ? I guess it is back to squishing then. :-)

Have a great evening everyone.

chrissy

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SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 1, 2012
4:33 AM

Post #9321720

chrissy you need something to brake down there Exoskeleton a combination of such things like neem oil, Garlic spray, chilli oil soapy water will also help but thats if you have the time

weather this helps or not sorry
http://www.sustainablebabysteps.com/organic-gardening-pest-control.html

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 1, 2012
12:07 PM

Post #9322035

I remember that song Chrissy, I probably haven't heard it since the 60's..
Dianne.
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 1, 2012
1:38 PM

Post #9322100

Shaun, I bought some Neem oil to try and have found it does a good job on the spider mites.
I mix it with warm water and a little detergent to make it stick.
Of course one has to soak the bottle in hot water in the cold weather to get the oil to run.
I have been using it for over a month now and hopefully it will control the darn things once the really warm weather hits us.
I have never seen any spider mites until I started with the brugs so they must be very few if any until a good food source appears.
All the brugs are looking nice and green now and love the rain we have been getting still.

Lots of new babies popping up as the weather warms too.

My seed pods are still hanging on. some of the earlier ones are over 6 months old. I feel the urge to take them off but have so far resisted.
Maybe after a week or so of the hot weather they will finally be ready.
Jean.
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 1, 2012
3:22 PM

Post #9322187

Hope these picture are o.k 1 Red Hot Pink I took this yesterday afternoon one split on side calyx 2 Red Hot Pink & it open last night more colour tomorrow 3 RHP the some bud to flower 4 same 5 same

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Cairns
Australia

November 1, 2012
3:23 PM

Post #9322189

Shaun White Ruff

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 1, 2012
3:51 PM

Post #9322216

Hi Gena ...is that one plant ? the Red Hot Pink I mean ?,
if it is, the calyx looks shorter on one bloom than the other. Thankyou for the pictures :-)

Good morning everyone out there, a much kinder day in store today where I live ...only 24C after 34 C is much nicer.
Rain would be good though.

Yes Shaun the organic sprays work reasonably well but I can't spray in the temps above 30C and can't spray way up in canopy of my very tall Brugs. I guess organic may mean Swiss Cheese leaves. Usually in Spring we get a few weeks before the major chewers come in but because we are having such early heat after late frosts it means fresh new leaves are under stress in the bouncing extremes of temps ...it's a bit cooler today so I will try and spray what I can with the Eucalyptus recipe.

Pic 2 is Melissa Amy with the bloom closest to the camera broken (by me accidentally while looking into her face) pic 3 some more babies :-) coming along.

Best get out there now hubby has been fixed up ...the finger is doing well. If you can imagine an open wound that went down to the bone all the way from just under the nailbed to the first knuckle (like a flesh eating bug), a very big blood poisoning threat etc, now reduced to about 1/8th of an inch long and filled in almost to the top of the skin.The Doctors are amazed.I am so relieved.
Have a great day everyone ...off to spray the beasties :-)

chrissy

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Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 1, 2012
10:34 PM

Post #9322481

All the same except the last one.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 2, 2012
5:35 PM

Post #9323097

Good morning everyone, (well yes I know it's almost lunchtime) :-)

cool, drizzling :-) lovely except that I must attend to domestics instead of more work outside.
I got quite a bit done before I got too wet.
Yesterday I had unexpected visitors again, of course I was out there playing with manure etc (How embarrassing when that happens) when they popped in, we had a wonderful catch up, but I never got to finish what I was doing until this morning.
I have to get in another load of stuff (manure etc) ...gosh it all goes so quickly.
Sprayed the leaves I could reach yesterday but of course now it may be washed off.

Thanks for the info Gena and the pics.
Better go finish the indoor stuff.
Have a lovely arvo !

chrissy

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 2, 2012
5:55 PM

Post #9323134

Great pics, Gena...a very clear example of the calyx growing on that cv...
Keep an eye on your other RHP if it comes from a different source and you can compare them...
If they look different please post...thanks for posting these.
Shaun's White Ruff looks very happy in your garden..

Jean, I forgot to ask you how the Neem oil was going...glad that it is successful for you even if there is a bit of mucking around with it.
Chrissy, glad that your husband is ok...
I noticed Creamsickle babies growing well there, so you'll have some high hopes for them...
Dianne

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 3, 2012
1:25 PM

Post #9323726

Good morning everyone ...an early start for us today, visitors coming so, off to visit someone in Hospital a bit later.
I just wanted to say enjoy your Sunday, it's cool and damp here but will reach 25C (nice).

Gina I have requested a place in the Gallery for Sacred Sunset for you. So it will pop up as soon as they can get around to it over the next couple of days, we really appreciate people posting their pics into the Galleries, thanks to everyone who does that, and don't forget those unnamed seedlings too into the unnamed seedlings Gallery.

I think it is so very cool to see the Australian pictures starting to appear in that beautiful and informative Gallery.
Congratulations everyone.

Keep on Brugging !

chrissy
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 4, 2012
4:14 PM

Post #9324604

Well today was a very good day for my seed pod with 'Culebra' as pollen parent it seed pod was still quite hard and has a hair line split on it
when i went to touch it it fell of in to my hand i panicked as i was not expecting this at this time but it had been on the plant for almost 8 months which is a fairly long time i think but if you can see the seed pod was very pulpy and opened up really easily with a gentle pull
there are 53 seed and which im very happy about now its time to sow them hahah i was stopping all propagation for the year as i have just to many seedlings to deal with but this is the Ultimate of all my seed crosses from here or OS so ill find room for it any way and im sowing only 10 seed

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 4, 2012
5:22 PM

Post #9324653

Congratulations Shaun ...how exciting, I forgot who the pod parent is ? is it Tantra ? or an Aurea.

What a morning here ...heading towards 33C

It started off so beautifully, foggy, misty loveliness.

But when I came inside clutching two more ripe pods I had forgotten to pick ...what did I find ?

Seeds from Wayne and the Bruce's Pink cuttings (very strong looking-from Dianne ) Thankyou very much !
Dianne are you sure you don't want something in return ?

Wayne has asked me to share his seeds if anyone wants them, just let me know,
they are :
Tantra x Frilly Dilly (FD is Musketeer x Fernando) should be some stunners in there :-)
I have more EA x ?
Fifi x ?
If anyone wants some just sing out lol. So many seeds right ...so cool !

My latest seedlings are taking off given a real taste of Spring outside and grown an inch overnight I am sure, don't you just love it when that starts to happen ?

Have a great arvo !
and keep on Brugging :-) Go you good things !

chrissy




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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 4, 2012
7:09 PM

Post #9324786

Finally, I , too have some seeds.
Chrissy, I would like to try a couple of Waynes Tantra x Frilly Dilly and also your Fifi x , please.

Shaun, the smaller of the two pods on my aurea (Lucas) had a small split too. It fell off when I touched it.
The seeds as you see were quite pale although some more brownish.
As they dry, they are turning darker. I opened some and there are little seeds inside.
I will plant some and see what comes of them.
More aurea mixes for our collection


Does anyone want to try any of the seeds from aurea (Lucas) ?
I am not sure about the pollen parent but think it must be GHA.
There is the larger pod still to ripen if you would rather wait for those.
Then there are several other pods on various brugs still to ripen too.

Jean.

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 4, 2012
9:58 PM

Post #9324914

A glut of seeds, what a wonderful state for us to be in...
I can contribute to that glut...
Shaun, remember when I had a tiny flower on Pink Panther and I asked you for some pollen from DP&G, well it produced a little pod and it has ripened...
So add it to those available for anyone who wants some.

I'm so sorry that I can't grow anymore out..Next year things will be very different...because I will only grow what I have, so If there are any local ones to grow out, I will be able to help...
Dianne.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 4, 2012
10:56 PM

Post #9324919

Chrissy the cross is of
aurea(form) x.'Culebra'
Pol 7/4/2012
col 4/11/2012

it dose look like there is plenty of seed around this year and has much gone OS? =Chrissy?
i am only germinating 10 of my seed and no more propigation this year please no more seed nut still have about 10 pods that have to be havested so im not sure what to do other then SCREAM HELP when i get seed all i wanna do is sow them hahaha no room left with Brugs, Salvia & Hippeastrums what dose one do

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 5, 2012
12:04 AM

Post #9324956

An embarrassment of Corks ...just amazing ! the extended cool of last Spring and the milder Summer allowed for the pods we have this year.
This Season will be a shocker for seed pods(at least where I live) I think, due to the heat, so just as well we have so many seeds, don't forget to save some for the two years ahead in case the big heat has returned. Store in the fridge and they will last well, the only ones that don't last are the pale ones, they need to be planted pretty quickly.

Sorry Shaun I remembered after I had asked, should be a ripper ! cross.

ok Jean I have put you down on the list ...remember everyone, if you have too many seeds you can store some or donate them.

Have a lovely evening everyone !

chrissy
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 6, 2012
10:43 PM

Post #9326621

here are a couple of pics of Munchausen
these are ppics from last Autumn and i think i got a good shot of the Calyx & corolla tube
Is this good enough to help with ID of RHP

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 6, 2012
11:33 PM

Post #9326629

[quote="Seachanger"]

Now when I look at the known cultivars on BGI, it states that Red Hot Pink is used for 2 different cvs, easily distinguished by the calyx...

This is what it says...
B. ‘Red Hot Pink’ is applied even by its introducer to two different but very easily distinguished clones in Australia, one with a slit calyx exceeding half the length of the corolla tube, the other with a relatively shorter slit or toothed calyx. The name was established in association with the former clone and the latter should be separately named.

To my eye Gena's calyx is slightly longer...would everyone take a look and give an opinion?
Good pics, Shaun...
Dianne












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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 6, 2012
11:48 PM

Post #9326632

No, I don't think that there is that much difference, seeing them side by side...not a marked difference anyway.

Opinions please...

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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 7, 2012
12:25 AM

Post #9326639

It's hard to tell because we all know how different a bloom can look according to conditions.

' Munchausen Pink' is one I haven't seen for myself yet.
I hope you don't mind me using your pictures ...just trying to compare them, colour is different of course,but that does not really count since we see such colour differences from State to State.
The skirt has not flipped up in second picture, so the tendril length is hard to measure for a non expert.When the skirt flips up it makes the calyx look longer on the bloom.
I am no expert so I won't say for sure ...

chrissy

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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 7, 2012
12:31 AM

Post #9326642

Oopsy meant to say Petal Tips, smacking my hand ! :-)
Very very humid, light drizzle ...I had to work today, some things hubby can't do yet, so I was grateful for the drizzle, I know the Brugs will love it !
Enjoy your evening everyone !

chrissy

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 7, 2012
9:53 PM

Post #9327559

Ivoire is starting to fire up, some of the flowers are still smaller than usual, any wonder though, the weather has cooled off again...
This is the first time that Clementine has spent the Spring in the ground, the flowers are larger than usual and even though I took off the first buds, the flowers are still mostly deformed, but there has only been one that I could say was really a mess, the perfume though, more than makes up for the odd flowers.
It has grown so quickly and there are buds all over...so all in all, I am pleased with it.

How are all the other Clementines going?...Shaun just wait until you get your first whiff of the perfume...

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SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 8, 2012
2:26 AM

Post #9327606

http://youtu.be/FDOX8swakWQ
This is a short Video of Munchausen Pink in my Garden today showing the calyx and petal tips that are like cork screws

I also have Red Hot Pink which i got from Colchester Rd back in January and the person that owned them i am now supplying to with my varieties

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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia

November 8, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9327967

Maybe of some help, here is 'Munchausen Pink ', pic taken last year...
As the name implies, it never quite lived up to it's colour descriptive name, 'Red Hot Pink'. Mine came as a purchased plant from the fellow in FNQ several years back. We still have it in the garden, however I think it will get the chop to make way for 'Lipstick' a far better plant all-round!

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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia

November 8, 2012
11:13 AM

Post #9327969

Here is the 'Bucks Fizz' x noid that I have dubbed 'Pink Champagne'. This is it's second year of bloom, pot grown. We were surprised to get a couple of six pointers. So far the plant remains P&D free, despite the board mites taking over plants nearby in the nursery.

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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia

November 8, 2012
11:16 AM

Post #9327970

Given half a chance, brugs will grow anywhere here! Prunings from an aruea that we left behind the shed to rot down.

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 8, 2012
11:40 AM

Post #9328008

Great Pictures Wayne :-)

I think RHP or MP probably need those tropical conditions to colour up well.
Pink Champagne is just like a pink Bucks Fizz and I have often found 6 points on BF.
Wonder who the pollen donor was ...

Shaun ...nice video mate !

Dianne I chopped my Clementine up to ensure I don't lose it (I wanted a few pieces just in case).
I would always love it for the perfume and I don't mind the occasional odd dresses come Spring, as she straightens her wardrobe out for the coming season.

Enjoy your morning everyone ...can't believe it's Friday again already !

chrissy

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 8, 2012
12:00 PM

Post #9328022

Forgot to mention the big storm last night ...damaged some stuff but the rain was very welcome, another hot day 21C overnight with over 90% humidity ...heading for 30C today (mild compared to the last two days).
I hope everyone is enjoying nice weather.
What is it like in your garden ?

chrissy
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 8, 2012
12:39 PM

Post #9328049

Good video clip, Shaun.
I agree with Wayne about the bloom color. Nothing interesting at all about it whether its Munchausen or RHP..
I find a lot of these lighter pinks remind me of Frosty Pink which I like .
I have Lipstick which I am hoping will finally flower for me.

I am puzzled about my two large GHA plants at the moment. Usually by now they are both covered in blooms but not a sign of a bud anywhere. There is a smaller plant taken as a cutting from the big boy which is now about 3' high out in the vegie garden. It has lots of buds.

Has anyone noticed that aureas stop flowering for a while and just grow taller at a certain age ?

Maybe they will start up again soon, I hope so as I miss all those golden blooms.

I see new buds coming on Mango Cornet. He sulked for a little while when repotted and moved to the open shadehouse near the back door.
I put Maya next to him so he has a friend.

Clementine is looking nice and green . I am hoping for some nice unwrinkled blooms later.
BB is starting up and the flowers are very large. The biggest I have seen on him .

I chopped my tallest knightii right back, It was badly affected with spider mites last year and has never recovered properly.
All it did was put out lots of small leaves right up the trunk and no large branches. I have another which looks much better, so I may pull this one right out and toss it.
If I can get another decent white I will be pleased.

Wayne, there is no stopping those aureas, is there ?

I see a small brug peeping out from the weeds down the back, here, where I tossed a lot of rejects.
There is also a tiny one growing out in the vegie garden where I tossed a handful of old seeds.

The pic is BB yesterday.
Jean.

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SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 8, 2012
1:10 PM

Post #9328097

Wayne the plants are looking good Love the 'Pink Champagne' very attractive and aurea can be very weedy as i had found out with my Barkley st aurea left alone for to years no water no fert and no love and still blooms as if it were dying hahah

with MP & RHP i will wait till both bloom to see weather or not to keep i am going to cull a few of the more established plants as i need room for the more unusual and rarer ones,
having 5 Knightii 8 OA dose me no favours but i really wanna see which are the best of them to keep ie: P&D free frost resistant
and all the plants are just moving along very well
cestrum_SEQ
West of Brisbane
Australia

November 8, 2012
5:45 PM

Post #9328352

Wayne, I recognise that area behind your shed as I have one just like it! (Except for me it's the suaveolens that tends to strike wherever I leave pruned bits on the ground ... although not recently, in the extended dry.) I've just removed all the plants I'd shoved out there, added soil and transplanted most of my 2009 unflowered seedlings from buckets into the cleared area. They're planted thickly, really close together, but it was either that or throw them out altogether as watering them in buckets had just become too time-consuming. I've been watering to settle them in and to tide them over the dry but, once the rains come, they'll have to fend for themselves.

For each of them I've had to cut thru the bottom of the bucket to get them out as, after 3+ years, the roots had grown thru the drainage holes and this was the quickest way of getting them out. Such rough treatment might kill a lot of plants, but not the mighty brug! One of the worst was this seedling: see how thick that tap root was. There was a lot of huffing and puffing involved in moving that one!

The neighbours will have a wonderful view when they all start flowering, hopefully this summer :-)

BTW, your Pink Champagne is lovely. You seem to have had so much luck with your open-pollinated seedlings, although I guess we haven't seen the ones that have been dispatched to the compost heap :-)

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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia

November 8, 2012
7:30 PM

Post #9328438

Thanks for the kind comments on 'Pink Champagne'. I had best get it into the ground, I will find a place at our Normanhurst facility - good soil and a bit of altitude.
Here are some pics of a seedling raised from Chrissy's cross, 'Old Apricot' x 'Butter Bomb'. This is the best out of a small batch of seeds supplied by Chrissy. Like you Shaun, I am very fond of the aureas. In this plant we have one of the best aurea cvs raised by Alistair, crossed with the all time fav performer, 'Old Apricot'. Great aurea scent! This plant must also be bunged in somewhere other than a pot.

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cestrum_SEQ
West of Brisbane
Australia

November 8, 2012
7:36 PM

Post #9328442

Looks very similar to my OA x BB seedling from Chrissy's cross. OA does tend to produce apricots, the odd white occasionally. Although from memory, I thought mine had the generic brugmansia smell of its pod parent; don't remember it smelling like an aurea. Hmmm, I'll have to have another sniff when it's in flower.

Virtually all of those behind-shed-seedlings of mine are from my own local crosses (one or two others might have been thrown in there among them, while I was at it), from the handful of brugs I had at that time. OA figures prominently among them, so I hope the neighbours like apricot :-)

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 8, 2012
10:12 PM

Post #9328496

Old Apricot sure has strong Genes ! If only we could get that into some doubles. Not that a beautiful single isn't something precious, I grow more and more fond of a delicious single. I confess to loving them all of course ! lol.

Wayne thanks so much for posting the pictures, thrilled you like it, I suspect we will be seeing quite a few Apricot coloured Brugs in the future, nothing wrong with that. The first time I clapped eyes on an Apricot brug I was ecstatic !

cestrum I am sure your neighbours will love the sight and the fragrance of your Brug wall :-)
I am waiting for a milder weekend, before moving a lot of my Brugs ...it will be cooler this weekend thank goodness. I am so looking forward to all your new Brug Kids !

And everyone else's :-)

chrissy

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 10, 2012
10:31 PM

Post #9330068

Well, my first and only Knightii pod has ripened, It's a Knightii x Ivoire, but the pod didn't ripen properly, the peduncle had been damaged somehow, probably the strong winds the other day.

Anyway I remember cestrum having some luck with immature seeds so I will sow them tomorrow. the cases were turning brown so they may be ok...

I forgot to write down what I'd hoped to achieve with this cross, I just hope that they grow now.
Apart from the 2nd PP fasc twins...I only have a Tantra x FFA pod to ripen, it's a very big pod...

Pink Champagne is very pretty, Wayne...
Dianne.
cestrum_SEQ
West of Brisbane
Australia

November 10, 2012
10:51 PM

Post #9330070

I think it depends very much on the seeds themselves, Dianne, whether they will germinate when the corks aren't fully mature. Good idea to break some open and check for kernels. Without kernels there's no chance of germination, of course.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 10, 2012
11:02 PM

Post #9330073

All full of very white kernels, cestrum, so white in fact I thought that they might be soft but no, they are very hard as normal...so fingers crossed.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 11, 2012
1:35 AM

Post #9330079

Dianne good ;uck with those Knightii X. seed i hope that you get something interesting from them.
Very nice day today and the weather is pleasent
did more potting up have about 300 more seedling to do then just waiting on the aurea(form) x.Culebra to germinate then i have finished for the year of sowing
just to many seedlings and my sister-in-laws place is starting to get a bit out of hand also but she did day if i weed the area and keep it weed free i can use it hahahaha thats a lot of room Grrrrr
have many plants with buds on them and many more just starting to Y for the first time for me.
About Munchausen Pink i think its a very pretty color and i have not had one this pink before and i do know that Red Hot Pink is a bit stronger in color then MP so will still have to compair the 2
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 11, 2012
3:27 AM

Post #9330090

Dianne, it must be just the time for pods to fall off brugs. The smallest pod fell off BB today. I opened it and was excited to see seeds inside. It was only about 2"long and very skinny.
Some seeds are as you described yours, very pale and tiny, but some were nearly what I would call a normal size and darker. I have no idea of what pollinated any of the pods on BB at all.
I will plant a couple if I find kernels in them tomorrow.
There are still 2 noid pods on BB and one on GHA. The other pods luckily still have their labels .
Jean.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 11, 2012
12:35 PM

Post #9330448

Jean, I had a little fat Tantra pod about the same size, that was yellowing off. When I opened it the kernels were enormous and everyone was empty, so I hope you have better luck...
The pic that I took was blurred, so I didn't post it...but I will now...
The seeds next to the big ones are the Knightii x Ivoire for comparison.

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Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 11, 2012
1:03 PM

Post #9330467

This is why I have the love/hate relationship with Clementine...she obviously loves being in the ground, even though she flowered well in the pot for 2 yrs, the flowers are much larger.
It makes you wonder how the flower in this first pic could be the same cv as the others...
The first few are very young and a very pretty lemon, then they mature into an orange as bright as the best of Buck's Fizz and it won't get to it's ultimate form until the next flush...

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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 11, 2012
1:23 PM

Post #9330484

As you get more practice you will be able to tell which corks are empty just by the look and the size.
The over sized corks are a sign in themselves quite often.

So disappointing isn't it.

Hard white seeds of a reasonable maturity if planted straight away will usually sprout. Sometimes they sprout weakly and then run out of oomph ...I think it's worth a try. Sometimes a white seed can be just a shell so give one or two a gentle squeeze to ensure it is "full"". Sometimes the shell itself is empty.

Don't feel too let down, plenty of time and chances ahead. Best of luck with all the seeds everyone. We might need it with the crazy weather.

My FFA is white ! it must be the cold night temps ...even with the heat of the day.
30C ish ahead here after a cool start.

This morning I am thrilled to find the friendly ladybirds out in force ! so cute and so welcome ...times like that plus the happy frogs make me so glad I don't use the commercial sprays (I am often tempted because of lacy leaves).
One of my spiders looks just like a tiny black scorpion, anyone familar with them, they look straight at me as I inspect the leaves. I swear they give me a defiant glare.The little dudes have attitude!!!
Yesterday I had been inside after clearing some stuff when I felt a tickle on my arm, a big spider was making his way down it.
Did you hear the scream :-)

Have a great day ...I will be posting stuff today and tomorrow (pushed for time these days)

Go the Bruggies !
chrissy

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 11, 2012
1:28 PM

Post #9330489

Loving the Orange in Clementine ...I love her, the scent alone is so worth a few stressed blooms in Spring. :-)

chrissy
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 11, 2012
3:41 PM

Post #9330565

Dianne & Jean, im finding out quickly about imature seed pods and the seed, i have found that some of the white ones do germinate and the rest just rot under soil but as long as 1 seed per batch germinate thats OK with me.

I have had about 10 crosses that the seed is white and very imature some times mush in fingers, i still sow them just incase there is a viable seed, some of the more mature seed can also be unviable as well so peeling them will help

Dianne Clementine is a very pretty thing indeed and cant wait till it blooms here also
plants moving sky wards very day now should have a few bloomers in Autumn im sure but could have a few early ones also but fingers X.

The weather is a little on the over c ast side today but still plesent to get out and do some of the gardening

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 11, 2012
4:29 PM

Post #9330605

This year is my first year with pods, Shaun...so we are all learning together, I think that Jean has only had a couple of pods too.

My Sweet Jaffa x GHA seedling is really taking off now Jean, it has been a bit slow ( probably my fault ) it's just over a year now...
How are yours going?
We have very bad, high winds heading towards us, they are in the Otways at the minute, so we have a couple of hours to batten down..

I have just been out and pruned the roses, luckily they have had their big spring flush, this happens every year...if I don't cut them back, I will lose big branches.
Will it get to your place Jean? I hope that you are listening to the forecast Shaun.
Dianne
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 12, 2012
12:37 PM

Post #9331304

Dianne, my SJ x GHA are growing well but I dont think I will see a Y just yet.
Shaun, ite so interesting to have our own pods to watch and then plant the seeds.
Its the best way to learn , I think, in the actual doing instead of just getting seeds in .
I will be creeping around with my paintbrush when flowers open.
Its also great to be able to return the favor and send seeds OS .
No strong wind here Dianne. Just the usual light wind
Jean
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 12, 2012
1:05 PM

Post #9331318

Jean check out BGI aurea form Ludger,
i really like the idea that we grow our own pods and see what our crosses become as Australia is new on the Breeding market and we have some of the most passionate growers here this will put us in good steed with the rest of the world in the coming years
Light wind today yesterday was a bit more blowy but not bad the sun was out and it got cold about 6pm
off to work now

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 12, 2012
3:02 PM

Post #9331438

Very pleasant here ...20C at the moment 25C later.

Been out there at sun up ...busy at the nicest time of the day.
I certainly agree when once I was sooo wanting the seeds from OS ...now we have some great stuff to play with from our own gardens. I bet there are many Brug nuts out there quietly working away.

Lovely to look at our own ...finally finishing up the dried seeds, some shipping out domestic, some going to our group, the rest will go over the pond at the end of the month ...so final call on these.
It has been a very successful year here for seeds. I can only hope that pollen donors were as kind to my blooms as they were to Waynes :-) See my homework last night in the picture.

Get those brushes ready ...it's too hot here unless the weather calms down, but you Southern Gardeners can go for your lives with your Hybridizing, I think I have had quite enough pods for this year.
Over to you now !

Have fun !
chrissy

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Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 12, 2012
6:39 PM

Post #9331616

You've certainly been busy Chrissie...lol

I am very proud to announce that my first seed from the PP fasc x RFP has popped thru...they were planted on the 30/10/2012...
Dianne.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 13, 2012
3:16 PM

Post #9332359

Dianne Congratulations ! it will be very interesting to see if the fasc can be carried through the seeds. The blooms will be exciting to watch regardless.

Shaun thankyou for those seeds ...I will cluck over them, I promise ! I checked one cork and found a typical lovely fat Aurea seed within. So it will be special no matter what ! You love them like a child I know :-) ...I have to see that once they pop up, if they show those Medusa like leaves, I might just faint.

Well it is cold and drizzling so far this morning, I got drenched just walking around to look at stuff.
So much for the Eclipse, all we have had is a dark sky full of cloud. Happy for the drizzle though.

Jean and all you first time podders out there ...a watched pod never ripens :-) ...(I used to check every two hours when I started). Or so it seems.
I remember getting a shock when they finally ripened overnight it seemed. I think I loved the pods almost as much as the flowers.
So interesting in themselves, the shapes the colours (Axelrose was my favourite-so pretty) and the different textures. The velvety ones asked to be petted.
So enjoy them.

Enjoy your day !
chrissy

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 15, 2012
3:12 PM

Post #9334118

A lovely drizzling rain, and a coolish comfortable 21C tops today where I am.
Loving it !

Busy Friday ahead, I hope everyone will be enjoying their busy day too.
Have fun ...here comes the weekend !

chrissy

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 15, 2012
5:54 PM

Post #9334246

Home for lunch :-) still drizzling.

Not much happening out there ...chewed leaves, sticks leafing out (crazy temps).
Managed to scrounge a couple of pics - but I really had to look ! I can see lots of blooms in the jungle over the tops of the balcony but I can't go in there in this weather. (Wayne this is my first seedling from you PP x ( 1 and 3)
So outside of the Jungle an odd bloom here and there. I accidentally broke a branch off Knightii darn it ! It was full of buds.
Oh well, never mind ...Happy weekend see you Monday :-)

chrissy

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Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 16, 2012
10:11 PM

Post #9335218

Just been out side and watered and having a good look around many plants have now "Y" and some buds are forming
i have just posted my next instalment of my Brug Walk there are 33 plants out there and i also show some of the inner Garden
http://youtu.be/iaRtQZzGodo
Chrissy, pronunciation if Ivoire but ill get there Google translator don't help to much with this one

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 16, 2012
10:26 PM

Post #9335222

That was excellent Shaun, you camera work has improved dramatically...I thoroughly enjoyed it...

Don't worry about the pronunciation of Ivoire, just call it Ivory, that's what it started life as and if it's easier, we all know what you mean...as long as it's spelt Ivoire...

Midas looked great as did so many others...I would be surprised if you got any virus on Old Apricot, I've never seen any here...

Everything is looking like great times ahead for you...
Dianne
cestrum_SEQ
West of Brisbane
Australia

November 16, 2012
11:48 PM

Post #9335230

Shaun, listen here: http://www.forvo.com/word/ivoire/#fr
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 17, 2012
12:07 AM

Post #9335231

wow did not expect that Cestrum
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 17, 2012
1:27 AM

Post #9335240

That is wonderful, thank you Shaun.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 17, 2012
4:16 AM

Post #9335268

How neat is that, thanks cestrum...
Shaun, I'll expect you to pronounce it with a sexy french accent in future...lol

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 17, 2012
5:24 AM

Post #9335292

•*¨*•♫♪ღ░H░A░P░P░Y░ღ░B░I░R░T░H​░D░A░Y░ ღ♪♫•*¨*•
Happy Birthday To You♪♫•*¨*•.♥.•*¨*•♫♪Happy Birthday To You♪♫•*¨
*•.♥.•*¨*•♫♪Happy Birthday,♪♫•*¨*•.♥.•*¨•*¨*•♫♪ღ​ღ♪♫•*¨*•
Happy Birthday To You♪♫•*¨*•.♥.•*¨*•♫♪and many more♪♫•*¨*•
.♥.•¨*•♫♪Have a great day :O)♪♫•*¨*•.♥.•*¨...

Have a beaut Birthday Shaun !

chrissy :-)

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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 17, 2012
5:30 AM

Post #9335295

Thanks so much cestrum :-) sounded very s*xy :-)
(PS I don't have your new address)

It's been a flat out day/evening for me, but better late than never.

Loved your video Shaun, good on you ! That walk of yours will be a true picture soon.

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend, a little birdie whispered in my ear that it was a Birthday here.
So I thought I should pop in and say.

Have a Good one Shaun !

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 17, 2012
12:34 PM

Post #9335611

A lovely walk around Shaun.
After looking at all your brugs , I am confident that mine are doing well too.
Its nice to see the odd yellow or drooping leaf on someone elses plants .
I worry sometimes that I am not doing everything I should for mine.
You had better get a ladder ready , looking at the height they are growing.
I am the same with some of mine . GHA is trying to emulate the neighboring large gum tree.
If I want to pollinate him , I am definitely going to need a ladder.
Buds are coming now but way up high.

I love your Midas.
I hope I get a flower or two on my coldies.
Some of the sangs are taller that I am now with lots of Ys but no buds.

Happy birthday too , Shaun.

Jean.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 17, 2012
5:45 PM

Post #9335813

Happy birthday Shaun...and many more to come...

The first of the twin (PP fasc x Bruce's Pink) pod has ripened so they will be posted as soon as they dry...
The PP fasc x RFP seeds from both pods have started to sprout...

Also my GHA x Angioletto seeds are growing very strongly, they obviously take after their mother...

Dianne.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 18, 2012
12:43 AM

Post #9335972

Ahhhhh ... there is something wonderful about gardening as the sun is about to set, the perfume in the soft breeze wafting about, even drowning out the manure er (perfume isn't the word) pong :-) It's that special fragrance known only to we Brug Nuts.

Poison is that heavy white lily scent ...mmmm
Light soapy scent from a couple of others, Twilight Time delicious ...hard to tell it apart from Pink'n'Green, just a knockout.
Citrus here and there, Melissa Amy, very similar to Twilight Time, just not as strong. Ivoire has an Aurea Perfume mixed with Butter Bomb but fainter, not as strong.

Add to those, a mix of citrus blossoms, honeysuckle and lots of lovelies,you just wouldn't be dead for quids !

I hope all of our Northern Gardeners are ok, those storms looked ferocious !
Enjoy your evening everyone.

Hope you all had a great day as specially the birthday boy ! :-)

chrissy

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Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 18, 2012
1:18 AM

Post #9335974

Happy Birthday Shaun.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 18, 2012
2:41 AM

Post #9335985

HI there Guys Thank you for all the well wishes on my Birthday
been a great day and cough up with friends for lunch and different friends & family for dinner

Chrissy Poison looks really great there

and all those great comments of my Brug Walk cant wait till they are all blooming WOW

I have go a bloom of Munchausen pink that has been on the plant for more then 2 weeks and still holding on so this is a good trait to have in a bloom "YES"

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 18, 2012
12:32 PM

Post #9336316

Calling cestrum ...SE QLD hit pretty badly, are you ok ? I hope those huge Hail Stones missed you.

Please let us know how you are when you can.

Gena and Allan are you ok ? ...those storms are pretty shocking, hopefully you are well out of the way.

Shaun ...so glad you had a great time for your birthday.

Jean, those seeds for OS will be posted today, thanks for organizing it. Very Exciting !

Enjoy your day everyone, I am off outside while the weather is friendly, we dropped down to 9C here overnight,
crazy weather ! The rain over the weekend was very welcome.

chrissy

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 18, 2012
12:40 PM

Post #9336323

oopsy forgot to say in my hurry ...Dianne those seedling babies sound fabulous ! very exciting times !

In the next few days I hopefully can post a list of the seedlings that I have growing here.
A few of the OS ones did nothing (mostly seed bank ones-I think some were old) the bulk of the seeds from OS did very well.

chrissy
boolarong204
Brisbane
Australia

November 18, 2012
1:44 PM

Post #9336372

Thanks for your concern Chrissy. The Brisbane week-end storms were very wild. Some minor damage from the wind but thankfully no hail in our suburb. 116 mm of rain has filled my rainwater tank!!
Allan..
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 18, 2012
2:26 PM

Post #9336401

Nice to hear you are safe Allan.
I had awful visions of broken things everywhere.
Hope everyone else is okay too.

Chrissy, I have found that some of the OS seeds dont do well here either.
Maybe old or just too cold.

I found the seeds in 3 of my pods that fell off were very small and white.
I have planted a couple of each lot to see what happens but I may not send any out as they are not looking good.

Maybe next time I will have better luck.

Jean.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 18, 2012
4:56 PM

Post #9336509

Jean i have sent the seed today for the OS shipment
I also thank you for your kindness in orginising this with the people concerned
we will be wetting our selves when the seeds arrive and also peeing our selves when they Bloom
Now its the race to get the first aurea up in australia from this shipment

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 18, 2012
6:19 PM

Post #9336575

In for lunch ...let us know if you have enough seeds Jean. A bit hard to know how many we had to send, so I just guessed and slipped some pickling cucumber seeds in there too.
I will be donating a bunch to the seed bank soon so yell if you need more.

Shaun you cheeky boy ! egging on us on like that ...I am b*ggered already ! :-) Potting, potting, potting !
Got lots done today. it has started to sprinkle again so perfect !
Hubby was given the "All Clear" by the Plastic Surgeon this morning, YAY !!!!! only have to protect the new tissue until it hardens up now. No one believes it, says a lot for lots of veggies and fruit to keep the immunity up.

Allan thank goodness you are ok, I hope cestrum is too.

chrissy

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 19, 2012
6:23 AM

Post #9336956

Look what I found in the Galleries,they are looking so good aren't they ?

this is a great picture of Gina's 'Red Hot Pink'

http://www.brugmansia.us/forums/index.php?/gallery/image/7270-red-hot-pink/

Gina you didn't mention receiving your 2nd lot of seeds, did they go astray ?

It's cold and drizzling tonight.

Busy tomorrow with multiple tasks so bye until Weds or Thurs ...so keep on brugging.

Go the baby brugs!

chrissy
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 19, 2012
1:01 PM

Post #9337306

Hello all.
I will be out today with my spray again.
The dreaded spider mites are out in force in the warm weather.
I have had to keep spraying every few days.

The darn things seem to appear and swarm overnight.
I find that the two aurea x Bergfeuer plants are the worst affected.
They look so nice with their giant leaves but never get too be big enough to Y.
Each time they look great, along come the mites to ruin them.
Last year one grew to over 6 foot then got the mites so bad overnight , it was red all over the top. I had to cut it to the ground.
The plant threw up 2 new trunks which are now about 4 foot and I am hoping the sprays will control the darn creatures this year. If not, I will pull both plants out and get rid of them.
Much as I would like to see what sort of flowers they may eventually have, its a waste of time trying to grow them and have to cut back each year.
Another brug that seems tasty to the spider mites is ButterBomb.
I am hoping I have them under control on him as their are heaps of buds coming.
Clementine, and Bucks Fizz also get hit.
Aztec Gold is another.
I hav ealso found that some of the sanguineas are mildly affected too.
I am so glad the aureas all seem to be fairly immune so far.
Another good reason to love the aureas. .
Lots of little seedlings coming on now. I will have to start potting up the biggest as they emerge from the mini greenhouse to spend time in the shadehouse through Summer.

Shaun, Chrissy & Dianne, I will send all the seeds to Ludger as soon as they get here and I get his address etc.
Cant wait to start planting all those lovely seeds from him.

Enjoy your day everyone
Jean.
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 19, 2012
5:32 PM

Post #9337520

No seeds jet, may be today/
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 19, 2012
5:55 PM

Post #9337544

so hot here and humid today and yesterday, the plants look sad now, but come back around 5.0clock.

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Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 19, 2012
6:37 PM

Post #9337571

There are here the seeds in the mail today, thank you Chrissy, you get a sweat going to the mail box, summer is full on here now.
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 19, 2012
8:29 PM

Post #9337684

Golden Lion, so far is resistant to spider mites and is the only good no whole leafs one out of then all.
Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 19, 2012
8:41 PM

Post #9337704

It may be only that it has not yet been found.
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 20, 2012
3:18 AM

Post #9337805

I found a new spray for the spider mites. I just hope it doesnt do any damage to the leaves.
We bought new cans of a quick knockdown Raid fly spray.
It kills flies very quickly , so I tried it on my white broom which was covered in little caterpillars.
They all died very quickly. so I tried it on the mites .
The largest brug with most mites was aurea x Bergfeuer which seems to be the tastiest for them. I sprayed gently on all the leaves and when I checked back later, all I could see was black dead mites.
If I see no bad leaf damage from the spray, I will be using it along with the other sprays.
I like to alternate so the bugs dont develop an immunity to any of the sprays. .

Today...me one ...mites none...lol

Jean.
cestrum_SEQ
West of Brisbane
Australia

November 20, 2012
6:38 AM

Post #9337925

We got about 60mL of rain here, which gave the garden a much-needed soak. Scary storm but no damage, although as I've said before we're in for a real storm season this year, something we haven't had for the past two seasons.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 20, 2012
1:43 PM

Post #9338284

Good luck with your Golden Lion, Gena...you can see the probs Jean has with mites...
Though this spray might be the way to go now...

I wish we could get 60ml of rain here cestrum, we are getting very dry...
I saw 2 new Alyogynes at nurseries on the weekend, one was a low growing hybrid, single very bright yellow...the other was a single version
of the more common blue/mauve...both very pretty...sorry to wander OT but cestrum likes these Alyogynes.

Here is the first baby pic of the PP fasc x RFP...twin #1 pod #1...the first from pod #2 still has his hat on...

Dianne.

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 20, 2012
2:39 PM

Post #9338322

I am tempted to use something heavy duty on my plants, but worry about the frogs and the good guys.
Guess that is why I have lacy leaves.
There is talk of a safe spray ...can't remember the name ...something like ransom (must google) recommended by the Garden Clinic I think it was (heard it on the radio but forgot to write the name down).The grasshoppers are here ! as well now.

cestrum :-) good to hear you got your rain and that you are ok.

Congratulations on your babies Dianne !

Golden Lion sounds good ...so much like Mango Cornet isn't it ?

Quick look around this morning (it was dark and cold).

We will get 30C today- poor plants ! after the cold night.

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cestrum_SEQ
West of Brisbane
Australia

November 20, 2012
2:48 PM

Post #9338328

You're right, Dianne, I love my Alyogyne! Beautiful coloured flower with the soft velvety grey leaves: just heaven. (If only it was scented too!) None of the seedlings I've germinated from it seem to have inherited that leaf colour or texture. (Dunno about the flower as none is large enough to bloom yet.) I did see that yellow one at Bunnings, and I think by the common mauve/purple you mean the one with dissected leaves? I'd just prefer to grow out my own seedlings as it's quite thrilling despite the disappointments.

Actually, I have two of these lovely purple bloomed plants with soft grey foliage, one labelled 'Barambah Creek' and one just 'Alyogyne', all bought from garden festivals. They seem identical, so I've tried crossing them and so far a few of my pollination attempts seem to have resulted in pods. Won't be sure until they mature and then actually germinate, but it does indicate that they are different.

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Gena1234
Cairns
Australia

November 20, 2012
5:47 PM

Post #9338509

Yes Golden Lion is like Mango Cornet.
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 20, 2012
7:07 PM

Post #9338654

well it looks like a flurry of activity here at the moment

Gena< hope the weather cools down so that the plants can recover for a new day for you up there the temps are high and probably not the best for Brugs in the summer but for the rest of the year probably PERFECT.

Cestrum, im glad to here that there is a bit of rain for your garden as we know you have been a bit worried like Allan that is so far between showers, im sure the plants will kick of hard with this down poor, those Alyogyne are attractive indeed

Chrissy the display is looking good all those beauties popping all over the place

Jean, i would watch out for the commercial sprays they may be detrimental to the leaves but do have a very affective result on the Bugs i used to use them many years ago till i got burnt by them and the plant was defoliated i was so shocked but im also sure that the chemicals that are used these days are probably safer and will not defoliate the plants like old times. and old friend used house & garden spray for theree Aroides when thay got mites & Aphids & Whitefly and had 100% strike rate but the only used it in a vacuum bag which suffocated the insects

Only have about 6 flowers out at the moment and many coming throw will post when some come around

OT::: Welwitschia mirabilis i have 15 seed in about 7 post at my home i have about 6 seed lings up which im surprised it has taken about 3-4 weeks to do so and i have now given it the first round of fungicide to protect them from any fungal attack will be interesting to see if i can get it throw the first 12-18 months then they should all be OK fingers X!!!!!

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 20, 2012
8:09 PM

Post #9338712

Very pretty Alyogyne cestrum lovely colour.

So much for my memory ...I think the spray is *Success* (not sure until I look some more). I read somewhere someone used Windex ...lol but hey, who knows.
Looking around this morning I saw so many of the cute, really good little lady birds, the ones that eat the baddies and fungus, so I might just have to leave the leaves lacy for a while.

Good luck with that Alien seeding ...kind of strange thing, but whatever toots your horn Shaun :-)


chrissy

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

November 21, 2012
12:59 PM

Post #9339203

This morning I went out to check on the seedlings and the tiny fasc seedling was praying...
Not another Brugmansia had it's leaves upright.
I have never noticed a seedling do this before and of the many that are growing this was the only one...soooooo cute.

Pink Panther opened it's first flower for a while and so did Buck's Fizz...

Everything seems to be taking ages.
Dianne

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 22, 2012
1:26 PM

Post #9340034

Good morning everyone, your dear little seedling is in the prayer position, a bit unusual for cot leaves ...wonder if that means anything ?

Nice colour on PP and Buck's Fizz is looking good.

It's Friday and almost December, the Brugs are so slow this year, second Spring in a row that has been naughty weather wise,
at least here where we live.

No word from Jean re the seeds sent for the OS swap, I hope all is well. She may have lost power in the wild weather.
Enjoy your day everyone !
(pic is Melissa Amy with six tendrils ...3 out of 5 blooms has the 6 points, seems to be a trait.)

chrissy

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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia

November 22, 2012
7:17 PM

Post #9340260

Hi all. Lots to read here!
First bloom on 'Old Apricot' x 'Fernando'. Seed supplied by Allan Little, grown here at "Flora" by me.
The bloom is approximately 300 mm in length. I cannot detect any fragrance.
So far, P&D resistant, despite broad mites attacking other new seedlings nearby.
I am hoping for the generous and recurrent flushes of the pod parent 'Old Apricot'. Already this plant seems to have inherited OA's "healthiness".
From 'Fernando', double blooms - dropped skirt as opposed to a tightly gathered inner corolla.
Thank you Allan for the seed, I will post "Y" cuttings up to you after blooming.
W.

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boolarong204
Brisbane
Australia

November 22, 2012
9:10 PM

Post #9340304

Looks good Wayne! Thanks for the photo.
Allan

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 22, 2012
9:53 PM

Post #9340309

Congratulations Allan and Wayne ! great result ! :-)
You must be thrilled !
A lovely double White.

chrissy
SolMan
Croydon
Australia
(Zone 9a)

November 23, 2012
12:40 AM

Post #9340330

Congrats to Wayne & Allan
This is a very sticking bloom the corolla tube is strong the mouth looks very neat in form and the corolla tips sit nicely on the bloom

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

November 23, 2012
1:44 PM

Post #9340656

Wayne when you get a chance could you please start a new thread with your wonderful new seedling ?

Frosty Pink in the Jungle at Sunup this morning (about time) :-) Hacked back last year and twice the size now !
view from my bedroom over the balcony.

Have a wonderful day everyone !

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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia

November 23, 2012
2:39 PM

Post #9340688

Hi all. New thread... ... ...
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1288671/

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