We're hanging in there in Vienna, VA. Power flickers but nothing out for more than a few seconds. Terrified about trees coming down. Hoping for the best but we've "moved" to our own basement. I can't stand watching the trees and wind outside -- it's too scary and I can't do a thing about it. My thoughts and prayers go out to others who are suffering through this, and let's hope we stay dry, warm, and safe.
WTH?!?!? My daughters school district just posted a 2 hr delay. I'm going with the benefit of the doubt here & guessing it's b/c of the mountain kids. 7 springs is getting a rain/snow mix apparently. Our district brings those kids in.
Coleup thanks for the forward over here. :)
The news tonight is going "storm panic, no transportation, storm panic, murder, storm panic, halloween is cancelled, storm panic cut to commercials of political ads" I have a headache now. This is why I NEVER watch the news.
Holy destruction in NJ! Hope everyone is allright! Same with DE looks kinda rough there.
Well I am a ways away from most here ,and we will be having 30 to 50 mph winds from the back inland side of sandy and the weather pattern You all stay safe as possible are hopes and prayers to you that it becomes no more severe than it is.
Storms like this are becoming redundant, but does not say much when your the one they are coming down on.
As said, luck and hope with the Human factor to you all effected of such.
lol Hartzell, we went thru storm panic (news sells) storm panic, a little bit of useful info, etc...now we here are in the middle /thick of it and brunt to come next 12 hours. They had to move the staging area for hundreds of out of state utility workers from BWI to a safer location.
Have heard that Chincoteague is under 3' water. Wonder if the ponies were evacuated? My heart goes out to all those critters and creatures going through the brunt with us and just trying to hang on til it passes.
Juhur always good to hear your perspective..will you get some much needed moisture out of this or just wind?
Betsy, good for you moving to your basement level...I have yet to do so as computer is up here!
Jen, we've had 76 mph gusts almost the same as the eastern shore
Amazed we still have power here. Sandy has made landfall. Just watched our governor give a press conference. Love his straightforwardness. He is appalled at the Atlantic City mayor tell his people to stay in the shelters on the island instead of leaving with the mandatory evacuation and who now need rescuing. One shelter is in a school a block from the bay. It is too dark now to send in first responders and will wait til morning. Very foolish of that mayor.
DH just went out to check our rain gauge. 5 1/4" of rain so far. The next few hours will be interesting! Continuing to think of all affected and that is quite a few!!!!!
Yep, we have baked goods for a few days. Had our 85 yr old neighbor over for dinner. He wanted to get back home before it got dark. He has a generator to keep his sump pump running if and when we lose power.
Sandy in downgraded from hurricane to no'reaster now (I think I butchered the spelling). High winds & lots of rain. Won't be getting our brunt for a few more hours. The special needs school I work @ is on 2 hr delay now. Hopefully they don't have to close. The whole campus has beautiful trees everywhere. The drive lined with trees. I hope they don't lose any.
Still have power. Snuggled in bed with my pup & a good book. With all the panic generated by the media I'm just really meh. I think it's being blown out of porportion for our area. Time will tell. I love a good storm & we should get a doozy. Glad I get to sleep in tomorrow. :)
Hubby and I have been hunkered down all day as we were both off. We have winds up to 50mph now but not constant. Our apartment faces south and we are not getting hit head on from our perspective... the other side of the building is taking a more direct hit. Still have power! Enjoyed a great dinner and glass of wine... watching movies on Netflix. Hubby will have to work tomorrow night :( I am blessed that I can work from home tomorrow.
Hope everyone else is doing well! Take good care!
Checking in, we're fairly sheltered here & getting some rain & wind - the 40 foot tree in the backyard keeps leaning closer & closer to the house...hmmm wasn't so bad when we could see it, now we can only hear it & it's eerie...still have power, we're on a newer Novec grid & hardly ever lose power - stay safe everyone!
I thouht it was calming but also now hear some good roaring again.
My cell phone rang an hour ago. Oldest son's buddy calling from the driveway said he had an accident and could he come in? Oh lord of course! He had been at a friends house near here and on his way home, rounded a curve and got a tree across the roof broke windshield too. Poor kid. So thankful he was completely unhurt.
And yes he is too smart to be driving in this but when youre 21 you do stuff like that. Once.
Living near Roanoke, we've only had winds occasionally gusting to 30-40 mph. It rained last night and there were a few sporadic sprinkles today and think I saw a few stray flakes in the grocery store parking lot this morning. Our situation is nothing at all like the devastation you folks in the NE Corridor are facing.
Now there's a lull, with hardly a breeze and the wind chimes are eerily silent.
I am *never* up this early. Fell asleep at 9ish last night tho.
Our school district is closed & the surrounding ones all have 2 hour delays. The one I work for is just on delay. :/ I was hoping for a day off. More rain today & the post tropical storm Sandy is supposed to dump it on us all day. Possibility of high winds until around noon but not hitting 60mph like last night closer to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh got a bit of a nasty hit. At least that's what it sounds like from the news. Lots of people lost power 75000 for one power co. I can't remember what the Duquesne (pronounced: due cane) Light figures were. Connellsville & the mountains have snow (not us thank heaven!).
Well since I don't have to be in until 1030 (unless we close please!) I'm going to snuggle up with the hubster & the puppies. :) Might get that book finished this morning.
Hi! Wanted to thank all of you for helping to calm me through all of this. Just reading this thread yesterday/especially last night...kept my mind off each wind howl, window vibration etc. So I was able to hunker down with James Patterson/NYPD RED and off to sleep. Have not looked out yet, but just had a little water come in under the back door. Light did not even flicker. this area has had repeated floods, but recent new drainage holes and new streets seemed to have helped. Do have concerns re neighbor's gigantic trees across from my backyard.
Hope all of you are safe. And thank all of you for being you!
Checking in. My thanks to Judy for the email. Hope everybody is safe and well.,
I came back to Baltimore on Sunday, expecting heavy rain on Monday. As it turned out, there was a late email on Sunday telling us that we could work from home. Oh well. Now I am stuck in the apartment, listening to wind and the sea.
We still have power, although about 200k BGE customers have lost power. Power restoration will be a long process. We have repair crews from other states to help us, including crews from New Mexico. It will be a big job.
Good morning, all!!! We went to bed last night whilst in the eye and it was sooo eerily calm. Woke up a few times in the night to the wind. Also woke up to the top of a maple tree down. Other than that no damage outside. We never lost power for which I am thankful. That means the sump pump will work. YIPPEE!!
I haven't been on DG forums much lately..put all my flowerbeds to bed for the winter a few weeks ago. Thank God we didn't lose power. All our lines are underground but that doesn't mean we still can't lose power. We didn't lose power, only damage we had was some flashing came off the eaves of the house. I have dumped a total of 11 in. of rainfall out of the rain gauge since Sunday when it started raining.
Holly, how are you getting to the VI? I haven't listened to the local news here yet but did see the damage and destruction Manhattan, Atlantic City got. All these insurance companies will be paying out a lot of claims like they did after Hugo and Andrew and then will jump everybody's rates..Think of all those cars, RV's I saw under water in NYC and elsewhere. Jan23, I was thinking about you but it appears you are safe..I forgot about the other NJ gardening friends..forgive me FlowJen and others.
We were to go down to Stuart, Va. to a friend's grave site with our son but we cancelled our hotel reservations on Sunday morning..never heard of a hotel/motel having a 72 hr. cancellation notice before but they understood and sent us a cancellation confirmation right away..
The neuro-surgeon that we've been waiting 2 months to see had his staff call people and let them know that the office would be closed yesterday. Hope they call today and reschedule soon. DH is living off Advil and Vicodin to ease the pain of the spinal stenois..The staff member that called didn't say if their office would be closed today though so hopefully somebody from his staff will be calling. I will call myself in about an hour. We would take us about 10 min. or less to get there. Government and public schools are closed so that makes less traffic on the roads..(hopefully). Just called my sister over in another county and her answering machine picked up so guess she didn't lose power. The other sister who lives in Howard County where their power lines are underground must have power because you get " Sorry but your call didn't go through" I've dialed her number 4 times..she has cell phone but will not give out her cell phone # and won't keep it turned on even in the car..it's called not knowing how to do the technology..almost like us..both are widows but has family nearby.. have not tried to call my kids yet..The storm back on June 29 left my daughter without power for 5 days..our son lives in Prince William County and I haven't checked on him yet either.
Everybody stay dry and safe..Coleup, thanks for starting these threads.
Regarding all these people looking for generators..I know one storm we had about 9 or 10 yrs. ago; a neighbor's son-in-law had to drive as far as Richmond to buy one.
I really feel for the people in the hard hit areas, especially NYC..Atlantic City..but those states will bounce back..just like they did after 911..Loved how NJ Gov. speaks so frankly..he tells it like it is..Sometimes you have to speak in those terms to get people to listen! I was just reading about the New York Univ. hospital generators failing and they had to evaculate their patients..almost like Mercy hospital in New Orleans during Katrina..People do not realize how dangerous some of these Hurricanes can be..I grew up in rural NC near the Ocean and we were used to them but they are all different. Hurricane Hazel in 1954 had winds of 120 mph..I pulled a 24 hr. shift in a local restaurnt in our neighborhood. We had State Highway patrolmen staying in all the motel rooms and the owner had a generator that helped give us power and we were the only place that was opened and had power as far as Myrtle Beach which is 68-70 miles further south from us..I can remember walking home the 1/4-1/2 mile with my legs so tired it hurt to move them to take the next step. Feet swollen from being on them so long.
All OK here too----Power is on, no major damage anywhere.
Back yard is littered with small-medium dead branches down from the maples.
Saves money having to pay someone to cut those off...;o)
I will cut those up and my back yard neighbor will burn them in his fire pit.
Getting to sleep was hard--took a couple hours--all that howling and rattling against the house...
I am scheduled to go into work 12-5:30. Will do that--as i am sure the store will be busy.
The power is still out here - no eta on restoration. My parents got a whole house generator installed after the summer storm when we were without power for a week. My dad was grumbling about the price, but in their elderly situation, it is a comfort factor knowing that they don't have to deal with prolonged outages which always seem to come with a heat wave or extreme cold. I called him as soon as the power went out yesterday and said "aren't you glad you got that generator now?" He said the lights had flickered, but he still had power and that it must just be out on the line that comes down to our house. He called back a few minutes later and said the generator was on after all - he didn't even notice the automatic switch over LOL. No trees down near the house or driveway this time, but there were two big ones down across my parent's driveway that Mike cut up and moved out of the way this morning. I had a nice warm shower up there, so I'm feeling pretty good. Hope everyone made out OK.
Slept in camper van as basement was taking on some water in one corner and I just didn't want to deal with it. One good thing about paper route is that I have a good supply of papers to soak up dampness and then I can still recycle them. I hate slippery sleeping bags! Good thing as I tossed and turned last night I was level parked or I'd be in the Bay by now.
No damage to house or adjacent trees/neighbors. All feral cats showed up for morning feed. Hurray.
Didn't lose power either. Amazing how tightly my giant oaks have held their leaves...they just weren't giving them up for antthing! It's not only willos that can bend. Seems like the wind switched directions numerous times last night.
Good to hear from everyone and that our chatter had a calming effect,,,good antidote to panic.
Sally, glad your castle could be a port in the storm. Says volumes about you and Mark that this young man came to you for shelter. Hugs to him.
I'm off to deliver the papers I couldn't get to yesterday.
Not much damage here either. I worried a ton over the night, but other than a door ripping off a Rubbermaid shed and one of the tarps pulling off the front hill we've been planting (we covered it so it wouldn't loosen and slide into the road).
Little branches and a few pines in my backyard. We just got power back this morning. A few are still without power unfortunately the sewage plant is without it and dumping 1 million gallons of sewage into the middle or little patuxent river so that is the number one priority in howard county.
Happy to here all the good reports.
Yup Ho Co made Fox News and I recognized that that was a sewage plant by the river, seeming inoperational. (How nifty that my college eddication (UMCP) enables me to recognize aerial view of sewage treatment plants.) Course we children of the seventies know that Dilution is the solution...A whole lot of stuff everywhere got washed into rivers, and a lot of dilution too. The bay scientists will be busy looking to effects of this.
We're betting that Patapsco, our dogs favorite swimming hole, will look drastically different, as it did last summer after that big rain, which we though would be a long standing record rainfall LOL
Naah, speaks volumes about being the next closest known house in a terrifying situation! Still we felt honored to be his refuge. 2004 Mazda gonna need roof, sunroof, windshield, and upper side panel, maybe whole door...ugh. Its funny that I had actually picked up and straightened and vacuumed my son's room two days ago so that our guest could sleep here without walking on dirty socks and last semester books.
I can't believe we never lost power! And the big oak still has most of its leaves. I don't quite understand how that happened.
We have 2 8-foot tall arborvitaes that need to be replanted. They were very recently transplanted, and the shallow roots couldn't support the trees in the wind.
One was leaning at about 45 degrees and one was on the ground, partially uprooted.
When would it be dry enough to work the soil and replant them? I have mucky clay that takes a *long* time to dry out. I'd hate to work/walk around wet clay and damage the structure of soil that's already poor.
Will the trees be okay not being fully planted for a couple of days? Or longer?
"Thanks for inquiring about Sandy. My sister lives one or two feet above sea level in VA Beach, VA.
I called yesterday and begged her to get to higher ground. She's never run away from a Hurricane.
But Sandy is different. I hope she is OK. She's stubborn.
Here in the Blue Ridge we have skimpy snow, but it is supposed to get heavier over night. Our temps
are above freezing. I will welcome the snow as a slow release water for my garden.
I have a generator which is new; I think it will see me through the next couple of days. Gloriag"
Thanks for the reports all. I haven't yet looked at any of the links that anyone provided, but will do so shortly. Jen asked if anyone had seen snow. I have been seeing flurries all morning, but nothing is sticking at our place. The small mountain range behind our house is covered with snow though. I had to go in to town earlier and it was interesting to see the mountains covered like that and not have anything substantial down lower. It is not over for our area. There is warning of activity until 8 PM. The wind is still howling here and still sprinkling water from time to time. Our rain guage is broken and I haven't been listening to any local news, so am not sure how much rain we have had. Amazed by the eleven inches that Pippi reported.
John commented earlier that as far as down trees are concerned, most probably came down in July. The roads are covered with leaves and small branches all over the place. I too am among the grateful to still have power. A bit after 7 last evening I was online making a Christmas purchase and the computer shut down on me and then ran a maintenance type of deal that I had never seen happen before. This morning it seems to be working, so no damage done thankfully. Need to go back and see if I lost the order I was working on though.
Here is hoping that the worst of it is over for most of us. Wanted to welcome jsxtiger and tell her/him that we are a really good group of folks who do look out for each other. I was without power for seven days during July and unable to communicate with my Dave's Garden friends. After a few days I called another Dave's friend and asked them to report in that I was okay but without power and would definitely return asap. When I returned in July I saw that our friend Coleup had asked about me on several threads due to worrying about me. I might add that the day of the Virginia earthquake, she also called me to check and see how I was too and I felt really blessed to know that she was thinking of me and was concerned for my safety. That is what Dave's friends are all about. There for each other in times of need.
Becky, so glad that you reported in and the report was that things were okay at your place. I am looking forward to more good reports from you girl. All others...enjoy your day. Thanks for being here.
We are ok in s. central Pa. We never lost power & the storm is on the way North, now. It is very cold outside (41) but no snow and I have to put my banana to bed. Our thoughts & prayers are with all the people in the midatlantic states who have had to leave their homes & evacuate and also to those who have no power. This storm, from what I hear, is long past overdue and I, for one, am glad it is over.
We didn't loose power here and had a little over 4 inches of rain...Still having some rain and a little wind today. Guess all the water I have stored up I will use to water the house plants as that takes gallons each week.. God sure was protecting the most of us on this forum.
Hi all we are back on line. Lost power last evening. No real problems with any of us and only our neighborhood lost it's power. I think it was a neighbors tree that was the culprit. Kept flashing on and off for quite a while and then went out. We were out touring the neighborhood, not much damage, no trees down or houses that looked damaged. But there is a lot of flooding. I got some great pics of small streams that turned into raging rivers.
Pippi, We are heading out very early on Sat Nov 3rd. Flying out of Phila. I am sure they should have things going by then. At least I hope they will.
This is normally a small stream maybe 12ft across and only knee deep. Second pic is where it branches in to a larger Creek a few miles down the road at this spot. The road is flooded for about a mile and the bridge is underwater as well as the road. This isn't just a low lying road. The bridge is normally about 15/20ft above the creek surface.
Hey, Holly, watch the ole Susquehana! She can be full of surprizes as she was a year ago..when everything was flooded out of Harrisburg. We ate at Hoss's in Hummelstown last month when we were there and they have the water mark so noted on their walls where the water came to into their restaurant a year ago. They had to remodel and they have pictures of the inside afterward the flood. Good place to eat if you've never tried it. Between Rutherford Hgts. and Hershey. They have a creek that comes up at edge of their property and when the old Susquehana let lose it filled that restaurant almost to the ceiling. People don't realize how strong raging waters can be..
Hope you're able to get out Nov. 3rd. and can enjoy your vacation. Is Ric going with you? I just saw a YouTube video on planting tomatoes in those 5 gal. Home Depot buckets..very interesting video. The person that made the video did a great job at explaining it and show how every step is done. Even I understood it.
If somebody shows me something, I grasp it better than trying to read the instructions.
Thanks rubyw, and all of you. Even though I did all the prep, in the end the only thing we can do is be safe and pray. But sometimes the nerves/anxiety/media hype gets next to you. Sharing that with others helps tremendously! joyce
We only have sporadic sprinkles and belated breezes left. I have no idea how much rain we actually did get. Yesterday at 2pm we only showed 2"s, since it was coming down sideways, I'm not sure it was that little. I was down to the greenhouse at 4am and the 5"gauge was overflowing and now it was back up to 2"s. Our outage was local and only 16-18 hours. Our greenhouse did real well and the gas heater I installed does not require power, but is much more efficient with it. Not everyone had dry feet this am. Ric
Our power went out around 7PM Monday night. Wind made dreadful noise in the trees and it rained heavily through the evening. Awoke this morning to light rain and wind. When we took a recon walk around the yard we found little damage beyond small to medium branches down. With the power still off we fired up the generator and ran cords in to the freezer and fridge. Around 5 PM today the power came back on but would cut off briefly every so often for the next couple of hours. Our local internet service finally came back up just a little while ago, so with electricity, a hot meal in our bellies, toilets that flush and internet service we are considering our life pretty much back to normal. :-)
Terribly sorry about the devastation of New Jersey.
Let it remind me in the future that even if I am over prepared, it leaves the extra ice, generators, etc for those that will need it much more.
I neglected to check the college website again this AM, drove there and found AACC closed for power outage. Many lights on Ritchie Highway blinking or out below Pasadena, police in place with side roads blocked .
Wed, October 31, 2012
Everything is ok here. I was lucky. I didn't lose power, but a block away they did. It helps to have wires underground. Stream got high but didn't flood very much. A couple of big branches down in back but no property damage. Both my kids and their properties are ok but they are without power. In my daughter's neighborhood there was a lot of damage. I'm much closer to the shore than she is, and not as much damage. She is between reading, pa and allentown, pa. Blocks and blocks of down trees tangled up in wires. They said it would be at least a week before they could restore power. For her no power means no water, since they have to pump it. They do have a generator, so they can get a little freezer cooling and a little sump pump action and a little water pumped. Hard tho, with a family of 6.
Heavens to Betsy, here I've been posting all over the place and I forgot to check in here, ACK!!! All's well and safe here, we only ended up losing power for just under 3 hours here, and that was on Monday afternoon before things even got bad. No downed trees, not even a drop of water sneaked into the basement under the back door.
So thankful to see so y'all safe and sound here already... is that everyone? Have we missed anyone?? Gosh, my thoughts and prayers continue to go out to everyone in Jersey and New York, so so sad. =(
Our thoughts and prayers go out
for all without power, cold, stranded, hungry, homeless, thirsty, awaiting evacuation, lonely
for those concerned for family and loved ones not heard from,
for those buried in snow or sand or water or debris
for those who have lost family and friends in this storm.
for those who have lost homes, businesses.entire communities, everything they own
for all emergency responders,utility workers, hospitals, insurance adjusters
for all animal shelters and rescuers and all creatures great and small
for all world wide in similar situations
May we all be cared for and find the ways and strength to resecure the ties that bind.
The dmail blast went out to 59 and we have heard from 37 so far. There are many more who have visited our forum or are DG members in our area I didn't reach out to via Dmail. Hope everyone is up and running soon.
Lou C I love you and others from afar who care for the whole earth as if it was their own back yard!
Jan, how is your son and family down here doing this storm round? Sorry, forgot to ask earlier.
Here there were less trees down than last two times. Consensus seems to be that those that were going to go have gone...
Curious that BGE crews are repairing lines in at least three of the same exact places they repaired in last two storms (and this is after tree and branch removal.) Evidently, when one transformer blows it can blow a number of other transformers, too, unlike the circuits in our homes where if one fuse blows, the other circuits stay on. There are new transformers that take themselves out before blowing and effecting other transformers but they are not widely installed. Wonder, too wether the "smart meters" we were almost forced to have installed had any usefulness in this latest round of outages?
Hey donnerville I'm thinking about you...if they let you have a few hours off stop by Sallyg s tomorrow for a liitle r + r! Is your home snowed in?
Thank you, Judy. I'm usually on Texas and/or Tropicals but move around a bit. I have been through 3 tornados and will never forget it. They are bad, destructive killers but nothing like "Sandy". Dense populations are scattered like dots across the state of Texas, not so close to each other as the Eastern Coast. Matters not, the point is we are all God's children...members of the same family. Just thinking about what is ahead for so many is overwhelming. I know we are a strong people and we will recover but the pain is still here today. As I strolled my flower garden (mostly Texas wildflowers) this morning I "had a little talk with God". Thanked Him for the relatively small number of deaths and injuries. Every single person is important and not to be overlooked but the tragedy could have so much worse. This new social media has proved to be a blessing in times like this. How else could I know all of you.
Father, we thank you today for all of our blessings.
Just checking in real fast. We had power thruout the storm but no internet or phone, today we have phone but lost power a high line came down, eta on repairs not till Nov 9th! Lost a big tree branch but no house damage. Generator up and running for now
Praying for you, Jen. Hoping you get hooked up before the 9th
Judy, thank you for asking, he and his are doing fine. Usually they lose power at the drop of a hat, but didn't this time. Weird. No damage to their house from either wind or trees. DDIL's mom and brother were down from Boston for the weekend. They had traveled by train, however had to fly back yesterday due to train track damages.
I also appreciate DG family checking in on us from other regions.
Good morning Lou,.. bad morning for Jen... =( Just picked up my coffee cup as I read that; you're NorthEast of me, right Jen? Hang on, let me put some Saran Wrap on the cup and I'll start warming up my pitching arm. =)
Still checking on you-all (Texas slang) everyday. Crazily my thoughts turned to the wildlife this morning. My flower garden is abuzz with honey bees, butterflies, caterpillars, birds and the everlasting ants. How does a catastrophe such as "Sandy" effect these creatures? And the mammals and sea life...
I can!!! I was on a liberty ship when a giant wave happened years ago., I was hanging on the side of a cafeteria table watching people go sliding past as the ship surfed sideways like a surfboard out of the wave.
Needless to say I do not do the ocean vessel rides anymore!!!! The USS Buckner named for the Marine General killed at Iwo Jima
Found out our old house (my parents bought it in 1957)then we bought it when they retired and moved to GA in 1991, was flooded we lived 4 blocks from the river and backed up to a lake, the brackish water of the river met the lake for the 1st time.
Hubby drove that road today and everyone's water logged furniture is on the curb
1 main highway about 20mins north of here EVERY telephone pole is down
CRAZY and then the gas rationing started today(not in my county though, no lines or wait around here, thank God)
Jen, really sorry to hear about the issues you or those close by you are having to contend with. I kind of close my eyes and ears and see or become too very concerned over matters that happen elsewhere. Something has to be sitting in my lap before I try to find out details. I have seen some of the headlines, but not done a lot of reading or watching reports of all that is occuring north of me. I know that none of this is much fun for any one involved, and I just hope that things will get turned around soon for every one who has been affected by this storm. Hang in there...'
News you most likely won't hear about. We have a friend that is a member of Texas Baptist Men. They have several tractor trailers outfitted for emergencies such as "Sandy". They left here (Dallas, TX) several days ago. Now stuck in a parking lot in WVa. because the unions will not allow them passage. (This in the United State of America?)
They maybe forced to return home with the trucks full. Everything is free...labor, food, water, clothes, blankets...no charge, just love of mankind. What right does a union have to stop a mission of mercy?
Needs to be brought to the attention of the media if correct as presented. At the very least, have the organization there in Texas get the local TV station to carry the story, it will probably be picked up nationally from there. The glare of publicity resolves many injustices.
My friend, whose husband is there, has tried our local tv channels. They say they can only speak with the principals involved. Maybe one of you could do something on your end. The food truck can feed 30,000 per day and it is being sent back to Dallas. This is not an amateur operation. Have been doing this for 45 years and is better equipped that Red Cross.
While they may be better equipped than Red Cross, I can't help but wonder if the presence of the Red Cross is behind the decision. Other charitable organizations from elsewhere have also been detained or declined due to the Red Cross's presence, being told that the Red Cross would not be supplying those organizations with the bulk foods required to feed all those peoples. Not saying the organizations would **need** the Red Cross to provide the food stuffs, just that that's what their reasoning was. One such organization is a Baptist one from Alabama, who were turned away for the reason mentioned above, nothing else mentioned about reasoning why or anyone else besides the Red Cross. Only the Alabama "feeding unit" was asked to turn back, all the rest were gladly accepted and are graciously hard at work. (clean-up/recovery crews and chain saw crews).
(this info from an Alabama newspaper, article from yesterday).
It would be great to get any specifics about the TBM situation. It is a shame to have them go to so much trouble and commit so much time -- only to give up in NJ without investigating what can be done.
I'm with you, Happy and Greenthumb.
Specifics are hard to come by in a disaster and most everyone is on "high alert" and thus vulnerable to almost any incoming signals or "news" whether real or not...like those photo shopped pics of the statue of liberty and the big oncoming wave.. Hard to keep focus and not rescare ourselves. Hard to be present to pain and suffering and the long haul ahead for so many. Hard to keep our hackles down and smooth the ruffled feathers and frightened hearts around and in us.
I posted this on the Northeast thread: "Our utility company had crews and equipment already in place and out strengthening service pre Sandy and able to restore outages at dawn after Sandy made land fall.
Yesterday am as I delivered my newspaper route I noted a much larger than usual number of cars parked in the streets of this retirement community. Most of them had New Jersey plates. Seems like some empty nests around here won't be so empty for a while! Glad they found or had enough gas to get here.
I share everyone's and especially Lou c's frustration of relief efforts not going as planned. Seems to me to be part and parcel of most disasters. Be assurred Lou that the larger relief efforts that Texas Men is a part of (North American Missions Board) is on hand and doing mighty work. Here is their latest press release http://www.namb.net/namb1cbdr1col.aspx?id=8590123548
To me, all relief efforts and responses are important whether "successful" from anyones individual perspective or not, or even "efficient" or cost effective, etc, because it keeps our compassion and connectedness muscles strong..the daily exercise of having each others backs.
My Dad didn't want me to move so far away from home, not because he wasn't all for me, but because he couldn't be there to help me like he had in my growing up years."
There are still many I sent the dmail check in blast to who have yet to check in.
Sickening...One of our local papers recently ran a story with a photo of hundreds of power trucks parked in a lot idly waiting to proceed because they too had been denied entry in to whereever it was they had been dispatched to due to Electrical Workers Union involvement. I suspect after all is over and done with, we will hear some really nasty stories that have taken place this past week or so. Who suffers? The victims suffer doubly.
Very interesting topic and I hope to soon hear what is being done about all of this.
If you go to the link from coleup, scroll to the bottom of the page and you will find Texas Baptist Men, click and you will see a news story on the day they left here and what they are capable of doing. Heard from my friend's wife on Facebook. Half of the men had started back to Dallas, two hours out from WV they got a call to come back. Still don't know what has happened.
You are correct Happy...lots of mix ups happen during times like this. What is inspiring and I had never felt until after 9-11 is the coming together of the nation to offer aid to victims. I was very proud to be an American then and now.
OK, I'm checking in. We lost power for 30 hours, but are on Propane. Due to my father's advice about being prepared, Hubby and I filled all containers with water. We're on a well and septic. You know how we filled our toilet tank? We used two garden water buckets! Had one outside, "at the ready," and another one in the bathtub. We just switched them out, empty for filled.
We lost the beautiful 55' Blue Spruce in our back yard. It was topped years ago by some goon who wanted a nice Christmas tree, and I believe that this started the decline, although you couldn't see it for years. Then, that del Recchio storm came around, and, I think, loosened the tree's roots. Noticed last week that it was getting weird "brown fingers" across the needles...and brown needles near the trunk.
Then, along came Sandy, Uprooted!
Just so happened that I'd bought my dream of a Blue Spruce and planted it just two weeks ago, so now the Big One could exit, I swear it thought this!
I just stopped by my favorite mom-and-pop garden center, and bought a new $$$ Droll Yankee feeder, the "Whipper," for my birdies...a 20 pound bag of seed, and some suet cakes. Came home, changed from my work clothes, and jeese! It is so COLD and HUMID outside! I have a HUGE maple tree and it holds all of my feeders.
About an hour later, the birds were so happy! So was I!
Praying everyone is dry and warm tonight. Very little details in the news and I am trying to keep up with my friends here on DG. Pray you have water, electricity and a warm bed. Hope food is not far behind. God bless and keep you.
I read about all that Yellowstone stuff--it being the most active volcano in the country--
all kinds of lave cooking just underneath. It was all in a "Geographic" a year or two ago.
When she blows---it will be a disaster if such immense proportions that it is hard to imagine.
So far--"Old faithful" and all the other steam vents chugging out steam helps with the
pressure build-up underneath.
It was scary seeing the cross section of that area in the magazine. VERY sobering!
The above ground films of Yellowstone lake I found to be interesting about how the trees growing there were standing in water and now they are dead in 6 to 10 feet of water. All that taking place over a few decades of time.A few decades before that the trees were all well healthy and growing as always.
I remember first learning that from some of the early NASA in-fared photos of earth that showed the Yellowstone Caldera under the surface, what was surprising was no one had been any where near as to humongous size that it is.
Because it shifts at the surface like any other volcano I just do not think it will be any worse than any other . Surface shifts allow pressure distortion and release the only thing is it would likely do like Hawaii and keep erupting forever. Messy to say the least!! Or like MT ST Helen when one side the mountain came down.
Unlike Hawaii, which erupts runny, low gas basaltic lava, Yellowstone erupts gaseous, more viscous rhyolitic lava. The basaltic lava typically produces relatively gentle flows that may spread over a large area, but not abruptly. Rhyolitic lava produces violent, explosive eruptions, often with associated massive ash flows of hot gases and glowing ash that sweep across the landscape at high speeds.
Yellowstone is a cauldera, with an underlying magma chamber many miles across. When a cauldera erupts, the chamber empties many cubic miles of material in a few days. A cauldera eruption makes Mt. St. Helens look like a firecracker. Fortunately, cauldera eruptions are generally spaced hundreds of thousands of years apart, whereas volcanoes like those in the Pacific Northwest erupt much more frequently. If we are going to have a discussion of volcanic eruptions perhaps someone should start another thread so we don't keep this thread off-topic. There are still many people in New York and New Jersey in dire or difficult situations, and we should keep this forum focused on them.
greenthumb, you are a font of fascinating and diverse information! Wow. I'm not sure if I want to try and get to Yellwostone before the eruption, or stay away .
Anyhow- if we are all done ''checking in'' in this region- the thread in Northeast forum is more actively keeping track of recovery. I just can't imagine how difficult it must be for those still without power and out of their homes. Someone compared this to Katrina. I imagine a journalistic group might make some factual comparison along that line soon, too.
Hubby was in the town where we used to live yesterday. I was born there, bought my parents house when they retired, hubby was a captain in the fire department there. Was up there at some friends' houses to help do repairs, he said I'd cry if I saw it,
40 houses in 1 development were lifted off their foundations
1 of the cops in town went outside that night and saw the water starting to come down the street he grabbed a dog under each arm, he said the other dog could swim, so off they ran to the truck, they didn't even make it to the truck and the water was chest high so they just took off for higher ground at the municipal ball fields
1 of the firemen, said the water lifted the freezer in his basement and rammed it thru the ceiling/floor into the 1st floor
in re: link above
I know many of these places in Jersey, I was stationed and lived there from the late 60s through the mid 70s, and Holly and I took our family there before we went to the Outer Banks. It is heartbreaking to see such destruction, generations of memories just gone. Prior to this, the worst I remember was a wash-over and small channel being cut on Barnegat. To those affected, my deepest sympathy and prayers. Ric
I nevr have used a foam base for a wreath. Foam can just break...Nope! Never!
I always use the wire wreath frames. They only cost $2 or $3. Michaels or Joanne's has them all.
The nuse paddle-wire (1.99) to wire bunches to the frame to your liking. Thick or thin.
Then decorate as you wish--a bow, some pine cones, something Christmasy--
maybe a pick or two--some red berries, whatever. Always comes out nice...
BTW--Nice X-mas present if you are going to someone's house...
Just took a tour of my hometown, yep I had tears in my eyes, garbage still piled up at the curbs and hubby said that they come thru every day and pick up trash, so much devastation. There are police stationed at the ends of the streets that go into the development to stop looters, driving around town police were out in force
There is a church group from NC (I think) that is there still helping them clean up, other than that and some of the house owners I saw no other groups or workers(but that might have been cause it was Sunday) Hubby worked on 3 houses last Saturday and he said there was a lot of workers there
We went to a benefit breakfast for the Asst Fire Chief this morning, he lives in the development that was totally devastated. The owners can't even enter their houses that had the foundations totally washed away because it's just not safe
It's 1 thing to see the pics but when you see the real thing, it really gets to you