Most of the trees were changing color but not these--leaves were thick and leathery green.
There are similarities--but USDA map show Gordonia only in coastal counties (this was in Tallapoosa county--East Central AL) and it is very abundant, and I didn't see any sign of flowering or fruiting structures. I have grown up spending weekends hiking that forest and have seen the tree pictured all of my life but in adulthood am trying to learn the names. Aside from the longleaf pine, companion plants are brackin fern, lots of sourwood, staghorn sumac, Persimmon, Sassafras, and Wax myrtle.
My uneducated guess would be Pawpaw (Asimina triloba). I know you said no fruit but even around here the fruit is removed quickly by animals or something.
You sometimes see it as an understory tree here. - http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=155
That bud is very unique. I think it is the key to the ID. You may also want to look at Cyrilla racemiflora.
For your county: http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=CYRA
I like going to the USDA plant database and doing a county search.
Not Cyrilla. Definitely not Pawpaw. I sent an email to someone at Auburn U. who maintains a website of AL plants--will see if they answer. Thanks for the input--if I get an answer I'll post it here.
Ya'll be needin' a Southerna fo ya tree there.
Tha's a Devilwood tree.
If Cartrema americana is a synonym for Osmanthus americanus (American Devilwood), then I think that may not be right.
The plant in question appears to have alternate arrangement of foliage, while Osmanthus americanus has opposite arrangement of foliage.
veins in the leaves aren't paired even for sweetbay magnolia, and the bud shoots out more like another leaf section forming, than for the magnolia-
Resin's Loblolly Bay is close, but the leaves are smaller than what pink is holding. It does smack of an evergreen like a magnolia or a bay...
Looks like a Horse Sugar (aka Sweetleaf, aka Symplocos tinctoria) to me.
I'd say taste it to be sure, but some plants are sweeter than others and if you don't know the taste it might not strike you.. Strange plant. Only semi-evergreen, but it is still fall so no surprise the leaves still look green.
That looks the closest- says the leaves are a yellow green tho- hers look darker, but thats abt the only diff I see. yup, chuckl, TASTE
a bit more info on Symplocos tinctoria http://www.alabamaplants.com/Whitealt/Symplocos_tinctoria_page.html
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It has characteristics of Symplocos...I wish I had brought a branch home so I could taste the leaves! These photos from Duke show a different bud arangement for that tree...maybe its just the time of year? And the leaves look glossier.
I saw Dukes versions- the bark is ridged on theirs too- that the tree is an evergreen or semi evergreen is a surety, it could be that it is a tree that 'crosses ' with others and is therefore common there. I want to know where that Devilwood naming came from- and yeah I know they change Latin names like diapers, but, where did he get his info from?
I ran across this list...100 trees
my wifi wont handle the dwnloads- pics are sketches- thanx tho