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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 2, 2012
2:37 AM

Post #9322513

Hi everyone,

New thread for November ... We came from

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1283582/#9322517




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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 2, 2012
3:51 AM

Post #9322532

Hi Everyone!

Yeah it’s finally the weekend! Joe did a great job today mowing all the lawns, whipper snipping and checked all the irrigation, so when I got home the garden looked beautiful, clean and inviting, so I am really looking forward to getting back out into the garden once we have taken our girls for a walk on the beach tomorrow morning. I want to continue working on extending the brom garden and with the irrigation Joe put into the galvanised wire fence it is making things so much easier when it comes to watering and they do not get overwatered and appear to be really loving the fine mist they are receiving a couple of times a week.

Hi Nev welcome back through the wonderful help from Sue, when I saw that big arsed thread (excuse the French) I thought that has got to be Nev lol. Thanks for the great advice regarding seedlings, I am learning such a great deal from this forum and so appreciate everyone’s views on what works for them, you get to conduct your own experiments to see what works best for the area you are in and it gets you thinking about other things you want to do around the place and how to tackle the situation so I think it’s great. Nev your Lambert Pride seedlings look to be doing really well and are of a good size with so many variations of colours and types by the looks of things. Nev by all means when my Neo Marble Mauve pups I will let you know and send you one, I have written you in my book so I don’t forget, I also have Bree and Shirley down as well as Bree is chasing anything that can take full sun and Shirley is chasing Neo Two Tone. Nev I also have you down for Neo Concentrica x Johannis. All I need now is some pups and like Shirley I have quite a few broms in flower now so pups should not be too far away I hope as I really want to raise some of my own baby broms.

Hi Wendy, you guys did great getting 4 straight numbers in the lotto; we do not usually have that much luck usually only winning small but never the less it is better than nothing and normally pays for next time. Wendy beautiful pics of all your Nidulariums, the one I have is starting to colour up nicely so I will have to remember to take a picture to post.

Hi Shirley thanks for giving me some more information on your Neo Flirtation, I don’t mind the small compact growing Neo’s and I reckon they look great tucked in amongst the front of the larger bromeliads. Yes your right about working a 5 day week it does take it out of you, we try to get all our chores done during the week and the shopping to free up some of the weekend because I tend to get really cheesed off if I have to do it over the weekend, plus I want to enjoy the fact that the house is clean enough and that the garden is kind of under control and manageable. We seem to have a good system in place to enjoy our weekends more and more now days but I think also the fact that we have settled down more, go out less and just crave home time has really made a difference to our lives. My friends always ask us how we find the time to keep a clean house and garden when we both work and all we can say is we just do our very best to because our house and garden is our little piece of paradise and where we get to relax and unwind.

Hi Bree, WOW you have been a busy little bee shopping lol, don’t you luv that feeling you get when you bring something new home or open a parcel full of broms. All your pics are beautiful, they look like great healthy plants you did very well getting them, looks like you are going to be busy in the garden potting them up if you have not already lol. I really enjoy potting them up and wondering where best to display them.

Hi Sue how gorgeous do all your mini neo’s look and all your Bills, I really like how you have your nursery set-up so organised and neat, everything looks so healthy with lots of room for everything to grow happy and they would all be getting by the looks of things great air flow? Thanks so much for uploading post and pic for Nev it is great, we have missed Nev heaps along with all Nev’s wonderful advice and pics.

Shirley fantastic work I just read that you started November post so I will copy and paste my word doc into November thread and see how I go. Thanks once again!

Have a great weekend everyone and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Neo Blushing Tiger
Pic 2 Neo Princeps Select
Pic 3 Mixture of Broms
Pic 4 Neo Heck
Pic 5 Neo Stormy Forest

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perke_patch

November 2, 2012
6:01 AM

Post #9322602

Hi everyone.
Shirley well done on starting the thread. I posted your seeds today. had to go to the post office to finalise mum-in-laws telstra bill. she only moved into high care in May and its taken this long to sort out the disconnection of her phone. In the end I insisted on being referred to someone senior IN AUSTRALIA to sort it out. only took half an hour and all done. Malaysian call centres need a lot more experience. turns out the 2 telstra systems weren't talking to each other in May hence when the technical side disconnected the phone the accounting side didn't know about it. so each month when I phoned they would tell me the phone was disconected and the bill would be wiped. next month another bill and another call. so now all finalised.

anyway when I got back home from the post office I discovered that a plastic dish of seed I had collected washed and dried from a neo granny takemura x concentrica which is a stunning plant, had blown over off the bench under the house. I discovered the container in Max's water bucket and seed floating and sitting on the bottom. I scooped a heap of it out and put it down in a container of seed mix. I then discovered a heap on the floor and in Johnny's storage container so I collected what I could. Pic 1 is the plant I collected the seed from. Shirley I included a packet of this seed for you to try. also have 2 pups I took off this mother plant.

Nev glad to see you posting again even if through Sue. I'll get your parcel off to you soon. still searching for the AFRN05 that you wanted. I keep thinking I've found one but it is AFRN802 which is a stunning plant also. see pic 2 AFRN802. I'm sure the ones down the backyard at present look nicer than this old pic. the AF part of the code is of course Alan Freeman. we do seem to have a lot of his NOID plants. Nev that vrisea Maroochy smooch that went for $925 on ebay was an Alan Pythian hybrid that he sent to Neal for free with a purchased plant(s). it actualy turned out to be a very niceplant which Neal named and registered in consultation with Alan. I still think our one from same grex is just as nice as Maroochy smooch so we might have to put first pup on ebay.

Bree nice haul of new plants you have there. love a new haul of babies. Jen and I are off the BSQ spring sale tomorrow but I'm only looking this time. although if there is a stunning plant at a good price I will have to get it but not going for anything specific. Certainly no vriseas. Johnny has enough to play with now. we potted up a few today so now they are taking up more room than they were.

Ian I purchased a bottle of Milton today and will try it on our seedlings to see if it will keep the little gnats at bay as well as the green growth. although we are not getting as much growth now that we have learned to sow the seed sparsely instead of too thick. we found that expecially with the vrisea and tillandsia seed the hairy bit does tend to grow a hard surface if too thick. better to make 2 dishes of thinly sown seed than 1 thick lot. I've tried spaghnum vs coir peat as well as holes in the lid, drainage holes low down on sides. I guess I've learned from making mistakes and am still learning from my friends on DG. I've just finished rearranging our seedling area again and had to resort all our trays of seeds. Now I'm a bit worried about where we are going to put them all so I have to be sure I really really want to grow these plants before I sow the seed. I now think I have too many pitcairnias growing from seed. Liking the flowers is one thing but do I really like the plants???? I have to say no to some of them. when I ordered the seed I was only looking at the flowers and thinking yes that one is nice. should have looked at the plant too. some of them look straggly and would better suit a sprawling garden than a pot. I've decided I like the smaller plants like pit. andreana in pic 3, but not the larger bladey grass ones. anyway if the landscaper wants them I'll consider selling them to her for a job but they will have to grow a bit and form a clump first and then they might look nicer to me.

Well I better be off to bed now if I'm having an early morning trip to the spring sale. Night all.
Wendy

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 3, 2012
12:58 AM

Post #9323343

Nice Broms!!!
Yes Trish i have already potted up my new pups. hehe!
Sue I got them off ebay, every now and then ill get a lot from the same seller that no one else bids on so they work out pretty cheap.
Heres my Marbled throat (abit old now and getting red which it never had), whats marbled throats size ment to be? because mine is a really small grower.
Heres my new Pitch Black, cant wait to see it in a few months, ill have to post a before and after pic in a mth or so. It should colour quickly.

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ianperry

November 3, 2012
4:09 AM

Post #9323386

Hi all, been busy today, built a house for my seedlings, put some in then looked at my Crypthansus and decided they needed a new home. Seedling house full. They need some tlc and will get it where they are now. I will move them soon to another location.

Bree my marble throat is a mini, less than 8" diameter. Pitch Black is a beautiful plant when mature,this is the only way I have seen it.

Off to the markets tomorrow morning. Have a good one.
Ian.
Pic 1 Crypthansus Elaine
Pic 2 Crypt Marion Oppenheimer
Pic 3 Crypt racinae
Pic 4 Crypt Ebb tide
Pic 5 Crypt Silver zones

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 3, 2012
4:31 AM

Post #9323391

hello all, message from Nev.
oh, It looks like he has sent me the same one in error. I've left it a bit late for him to get back to me, so I will leave it till tomorrow before I post the pictures (which I did get Nev) or else we won't know what Nev has to say about them. As for me, its bit late in the evening, and my typing is atrocious. Till tomorrow
Sue

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 3, 2012
6:22 AM

Post #9323439

Hi all,

Got up early this morning and went off to the market … a bit disappointing. The only plant I bought is an Ae Blanchetiana Red, a nice big one to go in the garden next to my nice big yellow one. I would have liked to go to the BSQ Show/sale at Windsor … maybe tomorrow.

Wendy, thanks for posting the seeds, I will check at the post office on Monday. Being put through to an ‘off-shore’ call centre when trying to sort a problem can be so frustrating, especially Telstra and BigPond. That neo Takemura x Concentrica looks like a stunner, Wendy, thanks for the seed, hope I manage to get a few of them to grow.

Jen and Wendy, hope you both made some good buys at the BSQ sale, photos please.

Sue, I am betting you have made Nev very happy by relaying his posts to DG. It will be good when he gets his computer up and running again. Nice pics of your bills and minis too. Bill Muriel Waterman is a standout out, isn’t it, I love any of the pink-purply ones though.

Nev, good to hear from you, we have all missed your posts. WOW, those are certainly nice Lamberts Pride seedlings in your pic. I especially like the two light coloured ones on the extreme left of the pic. If you are looking to swap one of those at any time, please let me know.

Bree, nice pics, I like the look of neo Big Mac, nice wide and toothy leaves. It took a couple of attempts but I finally got the new thread for November working.

OK, time to look thru my photos to see if there’s anything new.

Pic 1 is neo Red Africa pup, pic 2 is neo Magenta Mist pup

That it from me, G’night

Shirley

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 3, 2012
9:52 PM

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Hi all, Nev has kindly sent me the next installment, so here it goes.
Good morning everyone – I can see we've had a bit of rain overnight and it's still drizzling, so that should freshen up the garden. There won't be anything getting done in the yard today though as our monthly Bromeliad Society Meeting is on again, so time to meet up with like minded brom lovers and learn some more about the culture of these wonderful plants..

I still can't post so I'll have to rely on Sue to relay again for me, however I suspect I know what the problem might be but unfortunately not enough time to sort it out today so maybe tomorrow will see me back posting under my own steam again.

Trish – When initially watering with a new sprinkler system, always check the mix in the pots to make sure it is getting enough water. When the mist comes off the sprays, everything gets wet so it's easy to assume that everything is watered, however this isn't always the case. You really need to randomly check pots especially the ones at the back and on the ends of your garden to make sure they are getting sufficient water from the sprinklers and if necessary adjust the sprinklers. I previously had sprinkler systems in two of my shade houses, but stopped using them during the extended water restrictions a few years back. I still don't use them now because although they do save time, in my opinion hand watering is the best part of growing plants as it's very relaxing and also the best way to look at each individual plant and pick up any problems early so they can be rectified.

I'll just correct you on the pic of the Lambert's Pride seedlings; the plants shown weren't mine, it's just a pic I got from somewhere to illustrate just what's possible using Lambert's Pride as a parent. I am fortunate enough however to have just harvested a few seeds from a cross I did of Neo. 'Lambert's Pride' x 'Barbarian', so it will be interesting to see what they produce down the track – always something new to maintain my interest.

How large is you plant of Neo. 'Princeps' (Select)? I have one called Neo.Princeps 'Rainbow' (special form) (Pic 1) which is a very open type plant with a spread of about 30” when grown in the garden, nothing special shape-wise, but I do like the colour; however it is unregistered so I'll never know for sure if it is actually a 'Princeps' or not. Your plant of 'Heck' is very different to mine (see pic 2) and either one of them is wrongly named or it is another of the many variegated plants which are very unstable, hence the different markings.

Wendy – Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the active ingredient in Milton Sodium Hypochlorite? If so this is the same chemical we always sterilised our orchid seed in when sowing. Ordinary household breach contains the same chemical and I imagine would be much cheaper. We always used the Woolworths “Home brand” which we made up as a mix of 20% bleach to 80% water; it always did the job well with orchids and I still use it to sterilise any dry bromeliad seed in before sowing. It's probably worth trying on your little gnats as well, but you would need to compare the % of sodium hypochlorite in each of the solutions to ensure they are the same and adjust accordingly with water if they aren't.

I'd better finish now as I don't want to give Sue too large a job of relaying so all the best,

Nev.

Pic 1 Neo Princeps 'Rainbow' (Special form), 2 is my Neo 'Heck', Pic. 3 is breakfast time at Nev's

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 3, 2012
10:27 PM

Post #9324054

My turn now,
where to begin
I just drove back from the central coast of NSW after finalising the clean up, for settlement, on my F-I-Laws house, so I haven't had a chance to have a look at whats going on around here, but I did take a few photos on friday before setting off, so at least I have something to share.
Trish, congrats on getting the watering system in. I agree wih all of Nevs comments to do with checking where the water has reached. i can tell by the weight of my pot, if the water has gone in, and i usually rotate a few if one is drier than another, and also turn the pots on occasion so they get more even light. Yours, being in the garden would be a bit trickier i suspect. I love to hand water, and use the time to check for pests and weeds nd pups and flowers, but sometimes its not possible to find the time so the automatic system works well. It does, however, water the floor and other areas that don't need watering, and i have to watch for weeds if I have used the system continuously for around a week. thats not a common occurence though, so pretty much weed free here (in the pots and shade houses). Thanks for the compliments and yes, there is quite good airflow, although it can get very steamy in there when the sun is out!
I think i like your N. 'Stormy Forest' most, of the photos you posted. I do like the bright coloured minis.
Wendy, I'm glad you were able to rescue some of your fallen seed, i hope they didn't get too contaminated. I now what you are saying about your pitcairnia seed, as once space becomes an issue, you start to wonder if you really need trays of plants that may not appeal to everyone. i have found the solution is to offer small seedlings at $1, in my sales, and it saves me potting them up, finding a shelf for them, and gives me more room in my green waste bin for other things. Also, if you have 30 small seedlings, theres potentially $30 for hardly any work at all. If you have them in cell trays, you can just remove the plug with one plant, and wrap a bit of foil or newspaper around the soil and the customer can pot them themselves. I usually have a photo of the flowering adult, which helps to sell them, but only when its a species.
Bree, thats smart thinking about getting combined postage. Thats what has held me back from ebay this year, the postage costs. i'd rather spend it on petrol and go and hand pick my plant purchases, not that i've had too many bed ones through Ebay, but i also enjoy meeting the growers, and have made some good mates that way.
Ian, this talk of Cryptanthus has me wondering what you do with them? I have about 4-5 different ones, and have varying success with them. i find that keeping them moist (as seems to be the go) encourages moss on the top of the soil, and I am forever pulling it out, because i think it is causing rotting amongst some, and then sometimes i'll have four of the same variety, in four different pots, but with the same soil and watering and in the same location, and one will just turn brown and die! They give me the pips, to put it nicely!
Shirley, i understand your disappointment at the markets. i went to the Toukley markets this morning, and couldn't find anything, other than a couple of books, to take home for the shade house! i wish i was closer to brissie because i would have been at the BSQ spring sale for sure!
Anyway, I'd better see what photos i have to offer, and then go check the yard.
Photo one i for Bree. i thought this looked more like the mini you posted awhile back. Its labelled as Neo. olens x guinea
Photo two is for Shirley, showing how I germinate my Tillandsia seed. These are T. utriculata.
Photo three is N. 'Royal Cordovan' a favourite
Photo four is Vriesea heiroglyphica, with my size 9 jandal in front for size comparison.
Photo five is a pup of Aechmea pectinata 'Kathy Dorr' which is supposed to turn orange instead of pink, and seems to be getting a bit of colour now, so I will keep you updated on that.
laters
Sue

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ianperry

November 4, 2012
1:46 AM

Post #9324071

Hi all, mIltons active ingredient is Sodium dichloroisocyanurate. Each tablet contains 500mg 32% available chlorine.
Enough of the technical stuff. I went to our local market today, well 1 of them anyway and aquired some more plants. Only a couple of NOIDs today ! I think is a Canistrum and the other is an Aechmea, looks a little like burgundy in shape but not in colour.

Sue Crypthansus are pigs of plants to grow. Grant Patterson grows his with 15% shade here and heavily feeds and waters them. I just moved most of mine from under a citrus tree and they were in pots buried in the soil but still didn't like it very much. I still have to find where they like to grow, possibly each like their own position, moisture level and feeding. I have in the past let them dry out and they take a long time to recover.
I will have to look at ebay and see how my bids are progressing, finishing in about 15 minutes.
Have a good one
ian
Pic 1 N Fosters little gem
Pic 2 N Oh No Very cherry
Pic 3 Canistrum- I think
Pic 4 Ae NOID

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 4, 2012
1:59 AM

Post #9324083

Shirley heres my Ae Blanchetiana Red pup ive just received. I love how big they grow.
Thanks for the picture of the mini brom Sue it does look like mine.
Were waiting for you to get back online Nev!
My mini marbled throat would be lucky to be 5 inches. Its tiny.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 4, 2012
2:25 AM

Post #9324085

Hi Everyone!

We go a great deal accomplished around the garden this weekend, I continued working on the brom garden extension, we put some more irrigation where our gingers and heliconias area as some are not getting enough water, I worked in the herb and veggie garden, Joe potted up by putting them in individual pots three trays of orchid seedlings and we went and had a look in the nursery to see where I can put some shelving in and where I need to clean up prior to Xmas so I have a safe place to move all my bromeliads (other than the vrieseas that are in the entertainment area) so that if I need to with cyclone season upon us and with the wet coming that I can move them when I need rather than not having anywhere to put them, as at all costs I want to avoid them getting damaged and they may need to be moved temporarily at some stage. We also need to invest in a good trolley to move them around with, has anyone got any suggestions on where is the best place to by a good garden trolley from at a reasonable price?

Hi Nev and Sue, that’s so much for the helpful advice regarding the irrigation system we have put in for the broms, I will keep a look out to make sure the pots are getting enough water and don’t’ dry out, I am still giving them a good drenching by hand fortnightly with the hose. I am enjoying having the irrigation in though because it frees up more time for me to check on all the pots, remove old brom leaves and gum leaves and move the pots around as I need to get the best colour out of my broms.

Nev my Neo Princeps Select is 40”. I really like your Neo Princeps ‘Rainbow’, very similar shape and size to mine, just the difference really in the colour. Yeah I agree our Neo Hecks have very different markings but similar in colour, mine still has a little more growing and colouring up to do as well. Nev we absolutely loved your Pic 3 Breakfast Time, what an amazing photo of three very different types of birds sharing the same close space together, I could think of nothing nicer than sitting there with a cup of tea watching them. We have been watching our mum and dad Kookaburra’s feeding their chicks in a hollow in one of the large paperbark gumtrees, we must have spent at least a couple of hours out of the weekend watching them with our cuppa’s, them flying back and forth with food for their babies, life does not get any better than that.

Sue how massive is that beautiful heiroglyphica of yours, mine is about quarter the size of yours. They are magnificent and so deserve the name King of The Vrieseas. Neo Royal Cordovan is also one of my favourites, I really like how strong and proud it sits in its pot and that strong colour throughout the plant is really nice.

Anyway, I better get a move on as a few things I need to do before it gets too late.

Huge Hi to Everyone I have missed chatting with tonight, I will do my very best to chat with you during the week sometime if all goes well.

Have a great week everyone and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pics are of Brom Garden Beds and the Kookaburra Nest (too slow to get pick of Kookaburra) lol.

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ianperry

November 4, 2012
3:09 AM

Post #9324092

Had time problems with ebay and yes I won 1 seedling. Ae Noid is a problem to post.
Pic 1 NFancy free X dianne
It is not going to cooperate with me tonight.
ian

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 4, 2012
5:46 AM

Post #9324183

Hi everyone, we have had a couple of light showers of rain here over the weekend, most welcome.

Sue, we didn’t end up getting to the BSQ Spring sale … maybe next year. Just so much else going on and not enough days in the week. Thanks for the pic showing how you germinate Till seed, can’t wait to give it a go. Your Vr Heiroglyphica is enormous, I will be pleased when mine get to that size.

Bree, I will try to remember to take a pic of my new Blanchetiana Red tomorrow.

Trish, great that you achieved so much in the garden over the weekend … you can now look forward to spending the week at work LOL. Your garden looks fabulous, so much colour, great job.

Hi to Nev, Wendy, Jen, Karen, Colleen, Tash, Ian and anyone else looking in.

Catch up tomorrow,

Shirley


Pic 1 is neo Justins Song, pic 2 is neo Sun Valley

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 4, 2012
11:20 AM

Post #9324414

good morning all
Its so nice to wake up in my own bed!
Ian, I think your Canistrum is C. auranticum. I'm glad you find Cryptanthus just as troublesome as me. I can't work them out. I did hear there is a very good grower of them, somewhere here n our local area, but he keeps very quiet, and I never see any for sale at markets or on display at the botanic gardens or orchid shows, so I wonder what he does with them? might make the effort to find some contact details and see if I can get some expert advice on growing them. I don't like them all that much, but I like the pink or black zebra types. Alot look too similar to me, much like dyckias do. I wondered what happened to your photo four? It looks like it mixed up one of Trishes sentences too, the one about Joe potting up his orchid seedlings. That happens to me too, where, while I am typing, the cursor suddenly jumps into the middle of what i have already written, and I am too busy looking at the keyboard to notice.
Bree, it will be interesting to see how your blanchettiana grows. I have the very green/yellow one, one that goes a bit orangey, and another that has very strong orange, almost into the reds. I was sold a red one from an unscrupulous Ebay seller, that has turned out to be a cross between blanchettiana and another, and it doesn't cope with full sun.
Trish, its great that you are enjoying each others company, and your garden time so much. Its a nice time of year to be outside too. as for your trolley, I picked up a four wheeled metal one from mitre 10 for about $100, quite awhile ago, but I think they still come up for the same price, from time to time. It has gone the distance for about years or more, but I make sure i don't leave it out in the weather, and I give it a spray of WD40 now and then to try and stop the rust. Everything rusts here as we are only a few kilometres off the ocean. Anyway, it has a little bit of surface rust, but nothing serious. I use it daily.
All your brom beds are looking great, and I note you can pick up pots! I thought you had buried them in mulch, but can see you haven't. That makes it easy if you want to move them around eh? Is it starting to get warm up there?
Shirley, yay, you got some rain! if its anything like us, we got 2mm! pfffft! I'm sorry you didn't get to the spring sale. i honestly don't know how you could resist, but I do understand the need to get other things done. I am always trying to get my priorities right.
Your two red spotty broms look lovely. Is N. 'Justins Song' very big? I have looked at it from time to time on Ebay and wondered. I'm going to get a little package ready for you today.
I was looking at my Aechmea nudicaulis flavomarginata and noticed the albino sport was flowering. I don't know that you can call it albino, because its sort of yellow, more than white.
Photo one is the A, nudicaulis sport flowering
Photo two is a group of minis recently potted
Photo three is Neo. 'Medallion'
Photo four is a variegated N. 'Lila'
Photo five is the emerging spike on Alc. brasiliana
Sue



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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 4, 2012
6:03 PM

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Sue heres the photos the seller had on the Blanchetiana i bought. It was cheap so whatever it may be thats fine.

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ianperry

November 5, 2012
2:45 AM

Post #9324980

Hi all,not much happening here today, a shower last night someone told me there was 8 mils. not as much as needed but am grateful for any. I destroyed some plants today as they were too contaminated with flyspeck scale. The general garbage bin is about half full of them. Nearly all bil pyramidalis.I think this is the best way to control it. Some more valuable plants I treat. I found mealy bug colonised in the joints of my clumping palms, they are going to greenwaste. My seedlings seem to like the new area it is a bit more protected than where they were. One day I might finish the building and put a door on it.
I had a Guz whitmackia send out a non varigated pup and have potted it up and named it as Guz Whitmackia novar, have I labelled it correctly?
Thanks everyone for sharing your plants with me.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 N NOID
Pic 2 N mini Golden grace
Pic 3 N mini Little dazzler
Pic 4 N mini Flicker
Pic 5 N Kelvin

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perke_patch

November 5, 2012
4:47 AM

Post #9325040

Hi everyone.
Gee I missed last night and had so much to read today. Sue your hieroglyphica is huge. we've had clones that have grown huge and others that have flowered when still small. and I love the albino nudicaulis. very nice. But my favourite pic has to be that glorious infloresence rising from the braziliana (or whyanbeel as it is now called). I'm glad I'm not the only one that the curser jumps on. I used to think it was only the laptop that it happened on as I only use the arm of the lounge chair to sit the mouse on so I thought it was the curve of the chair that made the mouse move slightly and jump. but then it also did it a couple times on the big computer but not as often as the laptop. It can be such a pain when it happens. I've had the curser move and highlight a whole chumk of text and then delete it (or overtype it more likely)

Bree that red blanch is a stunning pic. I really hope yours turns out to look like that.

Nev your latest seed cross sounds like a good mix of genetics. you should get some stunning seedlings from that cross.

Shirley we also had a couple of showers the last couple nights but not enough to really register in the rainguage. just enough to have things dripping slightly in the morning. I think we get more water in the tanks from the solar hot water system boiling over which happens often in the summer months. we've even had our PVC downpipes buckle from the heat. apparently the system is set up that when the water inside gets too hot it purges some hot water to allow cold in to drop the temperature. anyhow we have the overflow set to run into the tanks rather than waste it. But we do need more rain to top up the tanks again or we'll be buying more water before the year is up.

Ian I bought some Milton but instead of the tablets I got a bottle of liquid. I figured that would allow me to mix up a smaller lot if I need to as I'm not sure how it would keep. I'll start off using it to water in the new seed as I put it down. then I'll use it to dampen the trays of seedlings as they need wetting. hopefully the few trays left with gnats will eventually have no more little buggers biting the new roots off my little seedlings. Yesterday we potted up a lot of the larger vrisea seedlings that had been infected with gnats. some had roots but most had none so now hopefully they will grow roots and take off. we'll keep spraying them with the condys crystals to encourage root growth. but I'll lay off the organic foliar sprays for a while in case they are introducing the gnats. not that the seed trays of smaller ones have been sprayed with organic foliar spray.

to anyone I haven't mentioned tonight I hope you all had a lovely weekend. next weekend will be a big one for me with my youngest son's wedding. Emily told us she was getting married to daddy. and mummy and Rylee were getting married to daddy too. she really feels like it will be her wedding too. I hope the rain doesn't wait till next Saturday as we are having a BBQ reception in the beer garden at Ettamogah Pub. the last thing we need is rain that day. lets hope it gets it all over and done with before then.

I'm off to bed now after a very hectic and shitty day today. everyone seemed to want us to do something and we were rushing from one thing to the next and Johnny didn't make it to the hospital for a blood test but instead ended up so stressed out and exhausted. to top it off Max started sneezing again and spraying blood everywhere and it wasn't just a couple drips it was a LOT of blood. a full box of tissues job then onto a roll of toilet paper. unfortunately it was too late to get to the vet before closing so it would have been a good trip in peak hour to get to the nearest 24hr vet so we worked through the nose bleed and it eventually stopped. hopefully he won't start sneezing again through the night and start up again. I hope it won't cost as much this time for the vet to work out what the problem is. It obviously was more than just the teeth. ah well hopefully we'll win that $100M tomorrow night and we won't have to worry about $$$ again. wouldn't that make a wonderful wedding this weekend with all those $$$ to spend on it. I'll let you all know how I go tomorrow night. and if I do win that much money I'll buy you all the brom of your dreams. start making that wish list tonight so I'll know what toget this week OK.

Night for now.
Wendy
perke_patch

November 5, 2012
5:15 AM

Post #9325059

oops forgot to upload the pics for you guys not on fb.
pic 1 is the grand champ of the BSQ sale ... vr marshmallow from Nigel Thompson.
pic 2 is some of Nigels seedlings from his candyman grex. apparently the top one (12 I think) is going to be registered as tic tac as it is small just like a tic tac.
pic 3 is part of the Dillings display at BSQ sale
pic 4 is part of Mal & Michelle's display showing parents at the back and resulting seedlings at front. some stunning ones in there of bianca x gulz grouped into 3 colour groups. I bought a white one from this grex which shows some promise.
pic 5 is part of Dandaloo Valley display. I didn't know till tonight that this is Nigel's nursery name. totally missed that sign at the show. I know I thought who the hell is dandaloo valley to have a display?

hope you enjoyed these pics and I'll share some more tomorrow night.
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 5, 2012
5:42 AM

Post #9325087

Hi all, just a very quick post tonight as it’s getting rather late.

Sue, neo Justins Song is fairly large, I’ll will try to remember to measure its’ diameter tomorrow.

Bree, love the pic of the red blanchetiana. I will add a pic of my yellow blanch which is in the garden and also the new one which is just starting to colour up. I haven’t got around to planting it into the garden yet … maybe tomorrow (it’s always tomorrow that I’m going to do all these things!!!)

Ian, like your NOID in pic 1.

Wendy, hope all goes well with the wedding, I will cross my fingers that the weather holds good for you … just remember to steer clear of the chewing gum.

Sorry to hear you had a bad day, Wendy, tomorrow will be better I’m sure. Hope Johnny is feeling better and more relaxed and poor Max too. Good luck with the lotto tomorrow night … I was thinking I would like a vr Milky Way, or perhaps vr Crackerjack then I saw the pics in your second post ... think I will have either Vr Precious Pearls or Candy Shop (No 16), thanks Wendy.

till tomorrow, Shirley

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 5, 2012
11:40 AM

Post #9325412

good morning.
Bree, if your plant turns out as nice as that photo, it will be a stunner.
Ian, you have been ruthless with your pest control, but well done! Sometimes thats the easiest way to get on top of a pesky pest. Regarding you Guzmania wittmackii, if its not variegated, its just wittmackii. Most variegated plants have a registered name, such as Neoregelia 'Martin', but if it threw a non variegated plant, it would be N. 'Martin' novar. So if the variegated Guzmania wittmackii doesn't have a registered name, when it has no variegation, it would still be G. wittmackii. Does that make sense? You could still put novar on the label if you wanted it known that it came from a variegated parent. Some people live in hope that they might get a pup that gets the variegation back. I think your Noid Neo looks a little bit like it has some 'Gee Whizz' characteristics in there? Is it quite large?
Wendy, that cursor jumping happens on FB too. I hardly ever access Fb from the tablet, as its quite a pain.
That V. heiroglyphica is the largest one I've grown. The previous one was reasonably big when it flowered, but nothing like this one. No sign of flowering yet.
I have the bottled Milton solution too, for the same reason as you. I had forgotten about it until Ian mentioned it, so I shall make more use of it, although after potting up the worst affected ones, I haven't seen any more gnats around.
Sorry to hear poor Max is still not right. I wouldn't have been any help at all, as I go faint at the sight of blood! You pair need to go on another trip for a break, by the sounds of it. Maybe after the wedding? I hope that all goes well and the weather holds for you, but the forecast for next weekend is for quite heavy rain across the coast. It might be an idea to make alternative arrangements, just in case?
Thanks for the lovely pictures of the displays, was that at the table tennis centre? Did you get any treasures? There is a plant labelled Tick Tac in the second photo, but its the brown, heiroglyphed one in the front. I love the pink centred Vriesea in the centre of the last photo too. Haven't they come along way in a few short years?
Good luck in lotto, but our friends up the road reckon they have the winning ticket, so not to bother buying an entry. however, if they are wrong, and you win, I would like a V 'Crackerjack' or a V 'Maroochy Smooch' please.
Shirley, Aechmea nudicaulis is on the way. I hope you have more success with it than I have. I've kept an older, shabbier plant for myself, which I will tend this spring/summer and then put it in the mini hot house overwinter and see if i can't get a better looking plant by this time next year.
Your blanchettiana looks really healthy too, and obviously isn't bothered by not being potted out yet. I appreciate that you will make the effort to measure N. 'Justins Song'. I am curious.
I didn't have time to do brommy things yesterday, except to water (which is enjoyable) and today looks as though I might be held up with other chores also :-( I am hoping its not as hot today, as yesterday, as I really had no motivation to go outside in the heat.
Well, lets see what photos are left on file.
Photo one is a bench of Vrieseas, which from that angle, looks crowded, but isn't.
Photo two is V. kitteliana getting some nice colour as it grows.
Photo three is Alcantarea heloisae, just starting to lose its winter colour. No sign of flowering on this one yet!
Photo four is Alc. extensas flower spike
Photo five is a small frog on the veranda rail last night. I think its a 'Perons Tree frog' but his eyes were so huge I couldn't detect the tell tale 'cross'
well, I had best get up and get things happening around here while it is cool
see you all tomorrow.
Nev, wheres the next installment?
Sue

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perke_patch

November 6, 2012
3:28 AM

Post #9325806

just a quick one tonight to say that bad new re Max today. not looking good and I thought Johnny was going to keel over with a heart attack when we were told. anyway more tests tomorrow ... the cheapest tests that is. Can't afford $3,000+ for CT & MRI tests to confirm anything so we'll just keep our fingers crossed for tomorrow's tests.

Night all.
Wendy
ianperry

November 6, 2012
3:31 AM

Post #9325808

Hi all, still cleaning up and chasing those pesky bugs, I know that it is way overdue by about 5 years. As I think about it trash has been building up in the clumps and it has been a breeding ground for bugs.It is simply a matter of hygiene.I guess hindsight makes no mistakes and experience is a good teacher. I lost a plant this week by putting it somewhere safe. I don't remember where it is. It is there somewhere. I got a couple on ebay tonight so now for a spell from buying for a while.
Vr marshmallow certainly caught my eye it is spectacular.I hope someone gets a win tonight.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 N mini Zoe
Pic 2 N mini Ink spot
Pic 3 N mini dinkum
Pic 4 Ae NOID 0411
Pic 5 N mini cougar

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 6, 2012
4:12 AM

Post #9325821

Hi Everyone!

Just a quick thread tonight and then I am off to bed.

Wendy sorry to hear about Max and I hope you and Johnny find out more tomorrow when you take him back to the vets, our hearts go out to you both and the stress you are clearly feeling at the moment with not knowing until all the results come in. When our girls get sick we always say how we wish they could talk and tell us what was wrong so we could fix things and make them better, it is amazing how they become such a big part of our lives but I think it is the other way with our girls, we become a big part of their lives and they are number 1 priority for us.

Hope the wedding goes well and that the weather stays nice for the big day and that you all have a wonderful time.

Apologies everyone, just a quick look in tonight, no pic's to post sorry. Wonderful pics everyone posted these past couple of days, my wish list is getting bigger each week to the point where I have started to write a new page.

I will catch-up with you all hopefully later in the week.

Trish

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 6, 2012
4:24 AM

Post #9325828

Hi everyone, very quiet on the forum again.

Sue, thanks so much for sending the Ae Nudicaulis, I will check at the post office tomorrow to see if it is there yet, I’m looking forward to its’ arrival.

I measured neo Justins Song, it’s approx 38 cm, but still has a bit of growing to do. I saw a pup on eBay tonight, looks like a nice one, which measures 40 cm across. Also looks a little different to mine, nicer colour.

With regard to the Miltons, do you dilute the solution to spray on your seed and seedlings and if so, at what ratio do you use the Milton solution/water, please.

Frog’s cute, oh and love your Vr kitteliana too.

Anyway, we have to get up early tomorrow as someone is coming to fix the tractor at some ungodly hour in the morning, so I’ll call it a night.

Shirley

Another message has been posted while I have been typing … two, in fact.

Wendy, so sorry to hear the bad news about Max. Lets hope you get better news tomorrow, fingers crossed.

Ian, I can relate to putting things ‘somewhere safe’ and not being able to find them again, I do it all the time … really frustrating. Like your little mini Inkspot, I think DG might have switched the photos around on you.

Catch up tomorrow.

And yet another new post ...

Trish, good to hear from you mid week. I know what you say about growing wish lists, just gets longer and longer !!!

Bye for now


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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 6, 2012
11:12 AM

Post #9326143

one from Nev

Mon 5th

Good morning all – I hope you all had a nice weekend and were able to get out on the garden and enjoy your brom's.

Sue – Tell us a bit more of the technique you use to grow your Tillandsia seed, I sure many will be very interested as there is always seed available from someone and it's certainly worth a try although they are much slower than other brom's to grow from seed.

I love your pic's 3 and 4 which are two of my favourite brom's and it's easy to see why Vriesea hieroglyphica is known world wide as the “King” of bromeliads as it certainly a magnificent plant; and what's more it's very easy to grow from seed. I grew some about seven years ago and I think almost every single seed germinated and as they grew I was almost overrun with them until I advertised I had some for sale (Pic 1). Within three weeks I only had three left out of about 200 plants. So they're easy to grow and easy to sell so therefore well worth growing. I'll be very interested to see what your Ae. Pectinata 'Kathy Dorr' turns out like as I haven't seen or heard of it before. I've searched the registries for it but found nothing so perhaps it's a “pet name” given to it by a grower; either that or registration is still pending. It looks like a smaller form than the common one which I have and which will get to about three feet or more across when grown in the garden.

Ian – The plant in pic 3 certainly has a look of Canistrum about it but I can't find any which look the same on either the BCR or the FCBS photo indices. Perhaps it is an unnamed hybrid which isn't registered. Is there any chance of finding out the name from the person who sold it to you?

Thanks for the info about the Milton; it seems that Milton and bleach both use chlorine as the sterilising agent and that is probably why the bleach was so successful sterilising orchid seed. I must try it on some dry brom seed and see how it reacts and I'll post the results.

I was able to find out some “basics” about Cryptanthus growing from a couple of society members who grow them very well down in this area. Firstly they grow their plants in 50% shade; secondly, the mix they use is a commercial African Violet mix; thirdly, they fertilise weekly at half the recommended strength and finally and most importantly, they like to be continually damp (NOT WET) and must never be allowed to dry out. I haven't tried these methods so I can't speak from my own experience, but there is also an informative article on Cryptanthus culture on the “Cryptanthus Society” web site at: http://fcbs.org/cryptanthussociety/CS_CultureSheet.pdf

Trish - What a beautiful garden full of colourful brom's you have, you must be very proud of the outcome. I love them in a garden setting like this, always something different to see and your local Kookaburras have certainly selected themselves a nice solid home and conveniently situated for you and hubby to view while having a “cuppa.”

Ian – I previously found that any time I had trouble posting pic's on D.G. It was due to the size of the pic. I'm not into the technicalities but when they are too big they either take a long time to load or won't load at all. I found that by using the programme called “Paintbrush” which comes standard on most computers and is usually found on desktop. If you reduce the size so they just fill the screen when opening up with Paintbrush they will load and post quickly. To do this, open Paintbrush, open you picture file and select the pic you want to post . (Initially it will appear gigantic on the screen if it hasn't already been reduced in size). To reduce the size hold down the control and “W” key together and a small screen will appear called “stretch and skew “. Just use the stretch portion of the screen which is in two parts, “horizontal” and “vertical” with each showing as 100%. I simply change 100% to 25% in both areas and you should find the picture comfortably fills the monitor screen. Just save the changes and you pic is now ready for posting. (It will also speed up loading pic's on emails as well)

Shirley – I like the two pic's you posted of the “spotties”. These spotted types although not everyone's favourites have always been a favourite of mine and I see are a favourite of yours also; when mixed in among other colours, they really stand out and truly show the magnificent colour range available in Neoregelias.

Just one pic today, its of part of the batch of Vr. Hieroglyphica seedlings I grew and which the large plant in a previous post came from.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 6, 2012
11:57 AM

Post #9326184

good morning, Nev apologises for the late post, he got sidetracked and forgot to forward it to me earlier, but we don't mind! As the saying goes, better late than never.
Wendy, I am sorry to hear all is not well with Max. My thoughts are with you both and with Max too.
Ian, I too have mealy bug in the golden canes, but have had an influx of lady birds this year. I have never seen so many, and they are having a good old chew on the mealy bugs, and on the aphids that are just starting to appear on the cordylines. I scoop lady birds out of the pool, hundreds at a time, and have been relocating them to any plants with pests. seems to be working well. Also, I have the same trouble with putting plants in safe places! then I walk around in circles trying to find them again! It must be quite common by the sounds of it?
I am glad you take the photos with the name labels visible, as then it doesn't matter what order DG posts them. I like Neo. 'Inkspots'
Trish, I gave up writing a wishlist, and now just purchase on impulse! I have a small wishlist of sorts, in my head, so can recall what I want if I get somewhere where it might be likely they have the plants I want, which, unfortunately, is not often enough!
Hi Shirley, I did wonder why you thought it was quiet? You must all have come on at the same time. in regards to the Milton solution, I make it up to the ratio suggested on the bottle (too comfortable to go look at it) and you can use this to spray the seedlings, or to wash your containers and even the seed. Its the same stuff used for sterilising baby bottles.
I imagine your parcel will arrive today or Thursday, as its a bit slow from here. In their wisdom it goes 7 hours back to Sydney, then the 11-12 hours back the other way. I've tried sending things express, and it takes the same time, and three times as much cost!
Thanks for measuring Neo. 'Justins Song' is it a relatively new purchase for you? I will have a look on Ebay later and see if its still there.
Your little pot of Crypt. bivattatus looks very happy!
Bree, Neo. 'Hurricane Alley' is back on Ebay, with two bids, last I looked. I thught one might be you, so I decided to leave it this time. I think it looks a bit like N. 'Cliff Siverd'?
Nev, I saw this technique for growing Tillandsias at Barry Cables in Brisbane. He had polystyrene board and covered it with coconut fibre, held on by winding cotton or fishing line around and around. You spread the Tillandsia seed over it, and wind more cotton around to hold it on, then hang it in a shaded, airy spot and mist it daily, in the morning, so that its dry by night fall. You can have it on both sides, so a good space saver. I find the birds keep nicking
the coconut fibre, so I lose a few seelings, but it doesn't matter too much. You can thn mount the seedlings when they are big enough to handle.
Aechmea pectinata 'Kathy Dorr' was discussed on Garden web some time back, so maybe a search there might bring up more info? It does seem small to be colouring up, but as I only got it this year, I am not complaining, because my other one has sulked for years, although is showing a little colour now.
Thanks for the info on Cryptanthus. I'll pick up some African violet mix next time I am at Bunnings and re-pot a couple and see how they go.
Photo one is my Billbergia 'Estrella' seed pod, that something has had a munch on! I managed to get about 30 seed out of it, so hopefully they are ripe.
Photo two is an Aechmea nudicaulis. I think its variety nordestina?
Photo three is a baby A. chantinii, which will hopefully attach to the tree its Mum is sitting in.
Photo four is N. 'Rosey Morn' in the afternoon sun. I'm looking for things to cross, and wondered what a cross with N. 'Jewellery Shop' would do?
Photo five is Ananas tricolour coming into fruit. Unfortunately there is too much shade and the plant lost its pink tones.
Anywa, thats it for me.
Hello to all the lurkers!
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 6, 2012
12:07 PM

Post #9326195

Wed 7th

Well at last I have some good news; once again I did a test post on DG and this time it worked. This same thing happened a while back where I couldn’t post for a while and then it just came good on its own accord; maybe it’s trying to tell me I’m talking too much! Anyway, I'll get on and type a few comments and hope it's still working when I've finished. I don't know about posting pic's yet as I haven't tried that, but by the time I get this finished, I should know. I must thank Sue for helping out and relaying my posts while I couldn't send them, I guess it's a good example of the old saying of “where there's a will there's a way”, so thanks again Sue.

Sue - I like your Ae. Nudicaulis “sport”, it's more of a lime yellow in colour and I think it would grow OK on its own as there would be enough green pigment in the leaves to sustain it. It would be interesting to see if it will throw any pups of the same colour and certainly worthwhile trying to stabilise any that it produces. I had a Bill 'Foster's Striate' that once sent up a similar coloured sport but I wasn't as interested in that sort of thing then as I am now and unfortunately didn't do anything with it.

That's a great looking flower spike starting to happen on your alcantarea and judging by the thickness of it, you will have to get the chain saw out to cut it off when it's finished.

I also love your little frog, and they're always a good sign of a healthy environment.

Ian – I think Sue's “nailed it” by correctly identifying your plant as Canistrum aurantiacum, I don't know why I didn't see that, but all of the pic's I looked at had markings on the leaves. That will teach me to not do things in haste and to look more carefully in the future.

I think you did the right thing dumping your infested plants of Bill pyramidal are as it's a pretty common plant and easily replaced. We aren't troubled much with fly-speck scale down here as I don't think the climate is hot enough as it seems to favour the tropics more. I have found though that Bill Pyramidalis does seem to attract White Soft Scale and Mealy Bug; that's why I always keep a single plant as an “indicator” to remind me it's time to closely check my plants and if these pests are present, I can eradicate them before they get a hold of things. Like a lot of cultural problems, these pests can more often than not be either put down to over-crowding or coming with a plant you have brought in from elsewhere. I know we brom growers always say, “There’s always room for one more plant”, but if causes overcrowding and loss of good air circulation, perhaps it’s not a good rule to follow.

As for your Guzmania Wittmackii, I think you have labelled it correctly by adding NOVAR after the name. For anyone here who doesn't know the meaning of NOVAR it is just an abbreviation of NO VARiegation. I don't think it's a written law that this must be done, but more likely something done by all “responsible growers” who don't want to deceive people who buy these non-variegated plants into thinking that the variegations will develop at a later date; they won't!

Sorry I can't help you with your NOID in Pic 1, but when I look closely I would think it does have a bit of concentrica in its breeding background somewhere. Once again there are traces of those semi concentric rings I spoke of in a previous post. As for your plant of Neo 'Kelvin' there is an interesting history about the naming of this plant. There are no parents listed on the BCR but it does tell us that it was registered by Rob Smythe of Townsville who says: “Named for a Kelvin Shannon who was a Curator at the Townsville Bot. Gardens where this plant was found”.

Breeindy – That's a great coloured “blanchie” in your pictures and hopefully the seller is genuine and the plant you bought will turn out just as eye catching.

Wendy – Sorry to hear that Max is having trouble with a bleeding nose; hopefully it’s just a case of a blood thinning agent in some of his medication which is causing the problem. The trouble with dogs is that you just can't tell them to press the nostrils together until the bleeding stops, they just naturally sneeze to clear the nasal cavity and as we all know, blowing your nose during a nose bleed is the worst thing you can do and only makes it bleed more. Maybe you or Johnny should have sat with him and pinched his nostrils together?

It will be interesting to see how the Milton works on the little gnats and hopefully you will pass on the results to all of us. It may also be good for sterilising dry seed before it's sown and sprayed with again after it has been sown. There are some really great looking hybrids in those Vriesea pic's you posted and it definitely shows just what can be achieved when one dabbles around with Mother Nature.

Trish – When you get your trolley, get one with inflatable tyres; it will cost you a bit more but well worth the cost; especially if you have to push it over grass. I had a couple of old trolleys I bought from Bunning's way back when they first opened, and like Sue we are also troubled by the salt air which has taken its toll on the metal in both of them. However I was able to make up a bit of a prototype by adding the handles from one to extend the handles on the other and then mounting a plastic bread try on it to carry plants on. It works OK but would be much better with inflatable tyres. The best part is that our grandsons love it and every time they come over, they drag it out from under the house and push each other around the yard in it.

Shirley – Unfortunately I think you will find that all new high quality hybrids like those in Wendy’s pictures will be of such a high price as to put them out or reach for most of us for a while yet. Like most plants however, after they have been around for a while and there are more and more produced, the prices will drop to a level where we all can afford them. Until then we just have to be patient and wait.

That's all for today, except to say, “get well soon” to anyone on the sick list and “where the bloody hell are you?” to the other regulars who used to post. Once again, thanks to Sue for relaying my messages for me and it looks like now everything’s working again, you have to put up with a “double dose” from me today.

Pic.1 is part of the Ae Nudicaulis I won in the raffle on Saturday, (I gave the other half to a friend) Pic. 2 is a variegated Ae nudicaulis I found when “walking around the traps” yesterday together with Pic.3 a beautiful flower on a cold damaged plant of a Quesnelia. (Unfortunately I don’t seem to be able to accurately capture the beautiful cerise coloured flowers which at first glance looks a bit like crepe paper) Pic 4 is Neo Rosy Morn just starting to come into colour and pic 5 is the prototype brom trolley I improvised and which the grandsons' have taken ownership of.

All the best, Nev.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 6, 2012
12:42 PM

Post #9326238

Hi again – Last Sunday (4th.) I had typed up this info. which I thought you all may find interesting, but what with all of the D.G problems I've been having, I forgot to send it on to Sue for posting so I’ll post it now, better late than never.

We had a wonderful meeting on Saturday 3rd. and had the rep from “Neutrog Fertilisers” as a guest speaker and he told us all about their products as well as some new lines that are coming out soon. I have previously used a Neutrog product called “Strikeback for Orchids” on my brom's and found it to be a good natural product which is similar to Dynamic Lifter and based on chook poop.

As well as this they also have other pelletised products made from “fowlsh” mixed with seaweed which is good as it's all from natural sustainable resources. As well as the pelletised types they are now also marketing some in a liquid form as well as another line called GOGO JUICE which is advertised as a pro-biotic liquid for soil and plants.

According to the rep they are getting great, quick results from this on the turf surfaces of football fields and race tracks after they have been used of a weekend and need to be rejuvenated quickly for the following weekend. From what he says it seems to me it would be a good product for brom's suffering stress from heat, cold or any other sources.

Another new product is “Kahoona” which is primarily for camellias, azaleas and rhododendrons but with a NPK of 6.4, 1.95, 8.2 as well as trace elements of calcium, magnesium, sulphur, iron, copper, zinc, molybdenum and boron, I think it should be suitable for brom's and I'll be giving it a try as we all received a sample bag of various products including this one.

When summing up at the end of his talk he emphasised that theirs was a reasonably new company in the fertiliser field and was willing to listen to suggestions from growers about ways to improve their products and possible suggestions for new ones. So while I had the chance I jumped up and told him of the problem brom growers have trying to get a reasonably priced fertiliser with a low Nitrogen and high Potassium content with the only good one being Osmocote “High K” which is at present only available in 20kg bags and marketed for professional growers at about $180 dollars a bag which is quite expensive and out of the reach of the average back yard grower. He listened to what I said and took notes, but whether it goes any further than that who knows?

As well as this interesting guest speaker, our monthly point score tables looked more like an annual show with the most plants being benched that I have ever seen since being a member. The quality was also very high and there was also a good selection of unusual species which we seldom ever get the opportunity to see which was also very interesting. It's good to see growers are becoming more aware of the importance of growing species especially as they are becoming more and more extinct in their native habitat due to land clearing. Even the commonly grown little Ae pineliana minuta is now said to be extinct in the wild so it is very important for us to keep growing these species so they may live on and be available for future generations to enjoy.

To finally top off a very pleasant meeting, I won a prize in the raffle which was a plant of Ae nudicaulis v. aureo-rosea (albeit a bit rough), but nevertheless a nudicaulis I've been chasing for quite some time. I guess everything comes to he who waits!

That's enough of my ramblings for today and I'll leave you all in peace now until tomorrow when hopefully D.G. will still be working OK for me and I can post again.

All the best, Nev.
perke_patch

November 7, 2012
2:28 AM

Post #9326688

Hi everyone. we had a very very stressful day today imagining and expecting the worst possible outcome. The vet really and truy expected to find a tumour in Max's nose which was impacting a major blood vessel causing the nose bleeds. the vet went as far as asking "if we find abc what action do you want us to take?" and "if we find xyz what do you want us to do?" We truly thought they were going to find the tumour but hoped they would find a fungal infection causing all the problems. We opted for a needle to never wake up if they did find a tumour so we were waiting on tenterhooks all day for the phone call to say he didn't wake up. When the vet phoned about 3pm to say he had just woken up I nearly cried with relief and that's when my stomach started aching and I felt sick. till then I had kept busy potting up seedlings and writing tags for them all. Johnny of course helped to pot up his vrisea seedlings and it kept him occupied instead of fretting. I almost had to tie him up to make him wait till 5pm when we could collect Max. Anyway we now have another thousand $$$ less in the bank and another night waiting for more test results as the procedure today didn't show up a tumour where they expected to find one. they still think there may be atumour up higher where their scope couldn't reach so they took samples and blood tests for specialist examination. So more $$$ tomorrow I guess. anyway we still have our Max home with us. At one point yesterday I thought I was going to lose both my boys so it was a stressful couple days and another one tomorrow. Oh and they even brought in a donor dog incase Max needed a blood transfusion if he had a major bleed on the table. I've never even heard of a donor dog but never thought about the need I guess. they think of everything don't they?

anway back to broms. we didn't do anything except pot up seedlings. I will get some pics tomorrow of the seedlings we potted up. some have grown to a good size in 1 year.

Nev I love your trolley made from a bread tray. we have a trolley that we purchased from Mitre 10 several years ago but it is now getting a bit rusty. It has a green plastic tray and we have always left it out in the yard. at times it has even filled up with water with broms sitting inside so now has some splits and underneath has rust spots on the metal bits. it has been a wonderful and useful asset so we may get another one. perhaps Johnny should have a go at modifying it a bit like you did nev. ours is also very popular with the girls wanting rides too.

anyway I think we might need an early night tonight so I'll say goodnight now.
Wendy
ianperry

November 7, 2012
3:19 AM

Post #9326696

Hi all,nothing much achieved here today, just filled the rubbish bin and read a book. Time off for Ian, just for today.
Nev, I read with alarm that you are considering using a high nitrogen fertiliser and another one with copper and zinc, both poisons to broms. I trust that you will tread with caution and not experiment with your best plants. But then you have a lot more experience than i do. Maybe the results will teach me something more about growing broms.
As for dumping plants, i have to get rid of the source and some of that is in the bases of clumping palms. When I get rid of enough of these then I have a chance of controlling pests within the rest of my yard. I have been watching this white stuff on the palms for months and it didn't register as to what it was. A combination of mealy bug, white fly and soft bodied scale. I am guessing that this was the breeding ground.
Overcrowding could have been part of the problem also. When I take out a plant for Group functions or buy 1 from outside it goes straight into quarrantine area. I cannot take any chances at the moment, probibly that will be a good rule for me to follow. Sometimes I win a plant either in the raffle or at our auction and mix it with mine in the back of the car. possible spread of disease.
I will have to look again at the basics of growing Crypts, thanks for the link.
My pics load quicker form where I have filed them than just saved to desktop because I have to resize them to save them in file. Makes sense to me. Why didn't I think of it.
Sue, thanks for naming the Canistrum. I like the idea of using coconut fibre to start the Til seeds, just as a decorative thought I wonder how it would look if a coconut with the hard skin removed would look and go, I have a few tills growing on coconuts. I have no ladybugs here only green ants and they farm aphids and other sap suckers to get the honeydew as food. I could get rid of the ants with a dog flea killer/repellant but they would be back unless all my neighbours did the same.If I take away their food then they may go elswhere to get some.
D G didn't stuff up I did, I just got my pics mixed up. As for losing plants I think it is a side effect of growing broms. I found it today, the lazy plant was just lying around after I dropped a tree branch on it. I cleaned up the branch from the opposite end to where the plant was. Plant is ok, not hurt.
Wendy, i hope things work out ok for Max
Great looking pics from all
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 N Mini ampullacea red
Pic 2 N mini ampullacea
Pic 3 N mini NZ Ampullacea
Pic 4 N mini Carolinea X painted lady

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 7, 2012
3:25 AM

Post #9326699

1. must be Blushing Tiger. 2. Fairytale. 3. I think red ribbons is getting to much sun. 4. My marbled throat in flower.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 7, 2012
5:19 AM

Post #9326747

Hi everyone, not much happening here at the moment, we didn’t win lotto or anything … maybe next week.

Sue, I bought neo Justins Song as a fairly large pup in March, so about 8 months ago.

Wendy, that’s good news about Max, lets just hope it’s good news tomorrow about the tests taken today. Maybe you should encourage Johnny to go fishing to keep him calm.

Hi Ian, Bree, Nev (great to have you back) and everyone else looking in.

Just the one pic tonight … I would be interested to know what you think this neo might be, thanks.

Shirley

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 7, 2012
11:38 AM

Post #9327073

good morning all.
Shirley, I am not familiar with your plant, but its a beauty! It sort of reminds me of 'Gee Whizz' (I seem to say that alot these days) Is it quite large? It looks large. We didn't win lotto either, but you would have had to get at least six numbers to get more than a few hundred dollars.
Bree, Your Neoregelia 'Fairy Tale' is awesome. I'm sure I have one, but doesn't look at all like yours.
Ian, sometimes its nice to have a break from the garden, and read a book. I usually do that on rainy days, but we haven't had many of those recently. I hope you give the coconut growing Tillandsia seed idea a try. I'll be interested to see how it goes? Do you have some seed to try? I have a few pods of Tillandsia utriculata, recently collected, if anyone would like to have a go. This particluar Till. only grows from seed, it doesn't pup.
I like your ampullacea collection. The first one looks alot like N. 'Tar Baby' or N. 'Little Black'.the pictures look a little dark though.
Wendy, sorry to hear you didn't find out anything definitive, and have another day of worrying ahead of you. Lets hope the tests come back quickly with the best possible outcome.
Fishing sounds like a good distraction.
Nev, wouldn't that be good if the fertiliser rep takes notice of our growing requirements and they make a fertiliser especially for broms? I'm sure you will tell us when it becomes available. Lets hope they keep it with in our price range.
I am glad you are able to post again, as I was concerned when there was no Email awaiting me this morning. It has been no trouble to do, and I learned some things about my computer along the way.
My poor Alcantarea. It hasn't even flowered yet and you're talking about cutting it off! Wash your mouth out! heh heh. I will let it go to seed before that happens. I have a few small seedling of the same plant, from seed that Wendy sent me ages ago, but not enough to have a good supply should anyone be interested in purchasing some.
My trolley is a metal one, with drop down sides, and pneumatic tyres. I have to check the nuts and bolts in the wheels from time to time, as they do work loose from bumping over the yard. A couple of sales back I had a young customer with three small children that were making it difficult for her to shop, so I loaded them in the trolley and we went walking around the garden. That sale made enough to buy another trolley, so it has paid for itself in more ways than one. I like your idea with the movers trolley. They come on special from time to time, at Supercheap Autos for around $20. Great for moving heavy bags of potting mix, or big potted plants!

Photo one shows that 31 seconds is too long for a small container of Sphagnum in the microwave
Photo two...why I hate gum trees
Photo three, it didn't damage anything as even the Cliveas stood back up when it was removed. It must have been slowed by the palm trees.
Photo four is Billbergia rosea in flower. Gosh its big, Nev!
Photo five is my hand for comparison.
We are supposed to get some good rain this weekend, but I am still going to water, just in case!
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 7, 2012
12:48 PM

Post #9327137

Good morning everyone – More showers over night down here and if that's the pattern of things to come, then bring it on, everything looks so lovely and fresh every morning,(except me of course).

Wendy – That's great that you have Max home and like I've said on previous occasions, I have the greatest admiration for vets and I sometimes think they are more skilled than doctors who treat humans. I'm sure the medical profession could learn a lot from veterinary methods which could benefit humans. I know for a fact that our vet reckons the medical profession has it all wrong when it comes to prescribing medications. He says they wrongly advise doses based on age and average weight of e.g. babies, children and adults where they should be prescribing on individual patient weight the same as is done by a vet. To explain more fully, he gives the example that if you give the required does to two men, one weighing 65 kg and another weighing 110kg, you will get two very different results as the lighter man will possibly be “over-dosed” and the larger man “under-dosed” and in both cases the medications are not being used to their full advantage. As for bringing in a “donor dog”, well I hadn't heard of that before, but it does make a lot of sense as I suppose that's easier and cheaper than having animal blood banks all over the country.

Ian – I certainly don't consider the “Kahoona” with a NPK of 6.4, 1.95, 8.2 to be high in Nitrogen; I have found that pretty well all fertilisers where the Potassium is higher than the Nitrogen is OK for brom's, in fact a lot of the ones commonly used have a Nitrogen rating as high as 13 to15 and the potassium less and only 8 to 10 in comparison . It's not so much the number of the particular ingredient but more importantly the ratio of that ingredient compared to the others we should be considering. As for your concerns about copper and zinc which you advise are both poisonous to brom's, I agree; but these chemicals are in most fertilisers, and in such “tiny” amounts which make up the necessary mixture of “trace elements” and in these quantities are harmless. When you compare them with the other ingredients they really are very, very small quantities, and to use the popular Osmocote for example which is used safely by many brom growers all over the world, the amount of copper and zinc is only 0.05% and 0.015% respectively.

Breeindy – I love the Neo 'Fairytale' in fact I love any brom's with those nice wide leaves and nice rounded shape and I agree that your Ae. Red Ribbons is getting too much sun as the bleaching is very obvious. Last year I took two plants of Red Ribbons and grew them in two different locations, high light and low light. The one in high light looked very much like yours with the effects of sun bleaching very obvious. The one grown in low light had much richer colours although the leaves were a bit linger where they had been reaching out for the light, so where you grow them I think is a matter of personal taste, like it is with all brom's.

I must congratulate you on your wonderful “study of nature” in pic 5 with the ant on his way to do a bit of flower pollinating. (keep your eyes open for possible seed pods in a few months time). I think this clearly demonstrates that a lot of the plants that we think we as humans have pollinated, have in fact been done by ants before or after us, and consequently the credit we take for producing nice hybrids should possibly be given to the ants and not us at all.

Shirley – Sorry I can't help you with a name for your plant except to say that it's a Neoregelia hybrid of some sort. However, I must say the collection of NOIDS you are accumulating are much better quality plants than a lot of the popular registered and named ones and I wish plants like this were available don here.

Sue – You sure made a bit of a mess with the microwave didn't you? Did you know that Bunnings now have N.Z. Sphagnum Moss in a compressed block. (It says “fush un chups” when you microwave it) Ha! Ha!

I haven't used it yet but some of the overseas growers use a similar product and just re-hydrate it without microwaving it and find it works OK. Maybe sufficient heat is used in the de-hydration process to kill all the “nasties”.

I'm sure there will be no shortage of seed from your Alcantarea (as long as a branch from the Gum Tree doesn't fall on it) I have grown Alcantareas from seed in the past and found that because the seed is large, they grow very quickly and easily so I imagine you'll have enough to sow all over the lawn and then you won't have to mow.

You've certainly done a good job with your Bill. 'Rosea', it's a beautiful plant but unfortunately, like all Bill's, the flowers are short lived. I particularly find the “watch-spring” type flowers fascinating and very appropriately named, as they do look like a coiled up watch spring.

That's it for this morning and I'll finish of with an interesting group of pic's showing the progressive colour changes of the very popular Nidularium 'Litmus 'Pic's 1- 4. (It will still show more blue as it matures even more and I'll post a pic of the “finished product” at a later date). Pic 5 shows what's left of last years flowering.

All the best, Nev.

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perke_patch

November 8, 2012
4:13 AM

Post #9327639

Hi everyone.
Thanks for all the messages of support re Max and his health problems. we waited for the call from the vet this morning with the results but it didn't come. Instead we had a call from Chris (our son getting married) to say that his battery had died and Jess was going to Sunshine Coast today via airport to pick up her bridesmaids (sister & best friend). so that was the last bit of stress that Johnny needed. anway after the money we've paid out for Max Chris is driving around with the battery out of Johnny's boat. anyway after sorting him out we decided to see what was in our wardrobes to wear to the wedding. Johnny had 2 good black slacks ... alas 1 too big and 1 too small. So we had to dash off to the shopping centre for new ones. Luckily the first shop we went to we found a lovely black pin striped pair that fitted him perfectly and while he was in trying them on I browsed and pulled out a lovely dress for me which he really loved also. so we both have new outfits. (and i had just washed all my good corporate bling that I'd kept and tried on ... they smelled a bit dusty hence the wash). anyway we'd only just gone into Big W to see all of the lovely things from Olive Branch when the vet rang. Yesterday's tests were again showing nothing so the vet had rung the UQ vet school for advice and they jumped at the chance to take on Max as a training patient. So the rest of the day was spent up in St Lucia at vet school. again first thing said was "we do think there is a tumour there somewhere we just haven't found it yet". every vet we've seen has believed it to be cancer but the tests have not backed up their diagnosis. this vet really checked him over much more than any of the others and found swollen lymph glands on left side so everything is on left. he also has no air flow from left nostril which points to a blockage there somewhere. they wanted to keep him oernight toight and do some procedures in the morning and then keep him tomorrow night also for observation. she said we could pick him up Saturday morning but with the wedding that was impossible for us. so he goes in Tuesday morning. Jen has kindly agreed to check on him a couple of times Saturday for us. The reason for the checks is that the vets all believe there is a possibility that he could have another bleed from the nose and bleed to death so he is to be kept calm with sedatives and we have spray to shrink the blood vessels in that L nostril. hopefully that will keep the bleeding to a minimum. So it still looks like we will eventually have a cancer diagnosis. oh and another bill of $1500 on Tuesday. We probably should just say put him to sleep but he is not sick or in pain and Johnny is not ready to say that until we hear that confirmation of cancer. I guess until there is positive proof there is a hope it is something else. so we have fingers crossed for a few more days.

Sue, I was surprised at the explosion in your microwave. My first thought was that I use 30 sec as we have a button that sets 30 sec increments of time. but then I realised the microwave downstairs has the old dial so I just spin it round. I think it usually clicks to around 10 - 20 secs. I'm going to try using the milton to sterilise the mix now. I also keep the mix in a bucket with a twist seal lid so no exposure to bugs. Oh and that technique of wrapping the coconut fibre around the foam was at Barry Genn's place not Barry Kable. too many Barry's around isn't there?
Pic 1. I sometimes grow my till seed on fibre fllled balls made of fishing net as in pic 1. I tuck the seed in behind the net and then just dunk the ball into the bird bath every other day. you will notice that the bottom half of the ball has germinated better than the top half and I believe that is because the bottom is wetter for longer. This ball contains seed of till gardneri.
Pic 2 is a ball of till hayley's comet that has almost disappeared beneath the tillandsias.
Pic 3 is another way that I grow tills. I glued a very small ionantha seedling onto this little gnome statue a couple years ago. it is now almost overgrowing the gnome and looks great when it flowers. but I've never been successful at pollinating any of these and obtaining seed. and the ionantha seed I purchased from Brom-L hasn't sprouted at all so maybe I cooked them beside the heater over winter. If anyone knows of a source of ionantha seed please think of me. I'd love to have another go with them. I have a contact overseas who says that they have tillandsias growing on everything that doesn't move in his neighbourhood including the power lines. he is going to collect some next seed collecting season and will send me some. not sure what I'll get if anything but fingers crossed there'll be some ionantha and stricta.
Pic 4 is some seedlings Johnny tied up on a length of fishing line and hung from the shadcloth roof to the shelf below. they were all little seedlings like this we plucked off the shadecloth where the seed had blown and attached and grew. we didn't know what they were but the last couple months they flowered and turned out to be schiediana I think. the wire is now almost completely covered so Johnny did another one that is strung just below the shadecloth from post to post. I'll download a pic soon of the first one and the new one so you can see how they have grown.

Oh Sue when we went to Barry Genn's did you get a piece of his schiediana yellow form? If you did that has now been proven to be a species as the seed produces the exact same plant with yellow flower spike. these have been named as tillandsia shy and the minor form is t. little shy or shy too. (can't remember but it gives you a starting point to check BCR or FCBS.)

Anyway I'm off to bed soon. havea big day tomorrow again. I'll be glad when it is this time next week and one way or another all our stresses will be over (hopefully all of them). We're actually thinking about jumping in the motorhome and taking off to Coffs Harbour to laze on the beach and fish for a couple of days. not sure if it will be park on north or south side of Coffs but it is only a wish at the moment.

Might watch a bit of TV before going to bed so I'll wish you all goodnight.
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 8, 2012
5:52 AM

Post #9327706

Evening everyone, almost the weekend again.

Sue, the NOID in my last post is a large neo but not as large as Gee Whizz, though as you say, similar. I thought it might be neo Tossed Salad, there is one pic that looks similar on the BCR.

I have been ‘cooking’ my coco peat in the microwave for 5 minutes. So far no explosions but I’m guessing it doesn’t take that long to sterilize the mix.

Sue, that bill Rosea flower is unreal, so BIG.

Bree, I think your neo Fairy Tale is awesome too. I have one which doesn’t look like yours either though it is just a pup and still mostly green. If it turns out like yours, I’ll be very happy.

Wendy, sounds like your day started out really crappy but improved with a little retail therapy and Max will be in really good hands and he’ll be just fine … think positive, relax and enjoy the wedding.

Love those little till Ionantha. They are very pretty, are they always coloured or only when in bloom.

Well, it’s nearing midnight so I’m off to bed, G’night

Shirley

splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 8, 2012
11:27 AM

Post #9327990

Fri 9th

G'day everyone – It's just gone 5.00 am as I start this so I can't see what the day's going to be like, but although we had a little rain overnight, we didn't end up getting the deluge they had predicted but a little further north they copped some really violent storms with hail the size of golf balls.

Wendy – Hopefully the vets will find a way through all of the puzzles troubling Max and at least you now know he's getting the best possible treatment so fingers crossed for a successful outcome.

Although “Tillies” aren't my thing, I really find the way you are growing them on those balls most attractive, I think they look great! I read somewhere once that they grow like grass in Brisbane and all points north is this true? I have a friend in Townsville who has them growing on the side of an old wooden garden shed where the seed has blown and the only care they get is an occasional spray with the hose. Another friend who is a member of our local brom society has Till. seedlings growing profusely on the branches of a Bottle Brush tree in his front yard. They haven't been planted by him but the seed has just dropped from the adult plants above and self sown.

Shirley - Like you, I always cook my Coco Peat in the microwave for 5 minutes on high and always have with never any problems, so maybe it's something in the Sphagnum that's giving Sue the unexpected results. I always put a lid on my containers so maybe it's this which keeps everything within the container.

Sue – After you posted the pic of your Bill 'Rosea' yesterday, I went looking and found a nice big fat spike just starting to stick its head up out of one of my plants, I can't get to the other plant too easily to have a look at that also but I expect if it is going to flower I will see it eventually. I have found 'Rosea' to be a very easy Bill to grow from seed so I'll self pollinate a few flowers so I'll have a bit of seed to share around.

That's all for today and I'll finish with a few pic's. Pic 1 is Neo xcorreia-araujoi just coming into flower. I'll also have 'Rosy Morn' and a large white flowered 'Cruenta' in flower at the same time so I'll probably try a little hybridising with the aim of getting large Neo's suitable for land scaping. Pic 2 is Ae 'Ruby Red' and shows what happens when you hang your plants up near the roof and don't keep a watch on them. This plant is thought to be a hybrid from Gamosepala x Cylindrata. and was previously known as Gamosepala 'Rubra' but was registered as 'Ruby Red' in 2011 so if you grow this one, change the name on your label. Pic3 is Neo Lambert's Pride (twin pups) Pic 4 and 5 show the vast difference in two plants from the same batch of Neo 'Rosea Striata' x 'Bea Hanson' seed. Pic.4 is heavily striated with red and in the plant in pic 5 the striations are just faintly visible.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 8, 2012
11:41 AM

Post #9328010

good morning all. I have woken to the sound of thunder and the pitter patter of very small rain drops. Yay. We need the rain, but I hope there is a break later this morning, as I want to go and visit a couple of Brom friends and see their collections! I'll take the gumboots and umbrella just in case.
Nev, I love Nidularium litmus, and like the way you have taken the photos of the changes. I thought I had been sold the wrong plant when it first flowered pink,but after the blooms faded, it turned a lovely lilac/blue.
Wendy, how good is it that there is a training school for vets that Max can go to. I think, as most of us are dog owners, we can understand your reluctance to let go of Max just yet. It is lucky you are in a position to pay the bills. I hope the wedding goes off without a ...hitch, thats not quite the right word eh? heh heh.
Well, I was stunned to read it was a different Barry's house we went to, as he was introduced as Barry Cable, and I have been referring to him as that ever since. how embarrassing! I did get both the Tillandsia scheidiana yellow, minor and major, and had a flower on the minor this year. I think the major is throwing a spike now?
Shirley, I usually cook the peat for about 5 minutes also, with the lid on, but the sphagnum, only a couple of minutes. I actually had the timer on for one minute but at 31 seconds I heard it go 'Bang'. All good anyway, and I got my Billbergia 'Estrella' seeds sown. Like you, I hope my Neoregelia 'Fairytale' turns out like Brees, as I have taken a couple of pups off to grow on in the brom house, where they might get a bit more light.
Photo one is a Neo NOID that is green in shade, and takes full sun now hat its been grown here a couple of years. It also grows in a pot with a saucer, and has never suffered rot. It gets a little bit bigger than shown. any ideas?
Photo two is T. fuchsii forma gracillis in flower.
Photo three is Alcantarea brasiliana AGAIN!
Photo four is our bromeliad chandelier hanging from a gum tree branch
Photo five is Billbergia 'Poquito Mas'
Till tomorrow
Sue

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 9, 2012
4:16 AM

Post #9328556

Hi everyone, we had a little bit of rain here late this arvo and hopefully we will get more tonight.

I planted some till seed today on to one of those compressed fibre basket liners. Initially I hung it in the shadehouse but it dried out very quickly so I have now moved it into deeper shade in a more protected area on the back patio. I will mist it a couple of times a day and hopefully I will get some of the seed to germinate ... how long should it take before I see little green bits in the fibre, please.

Tomorrow I plan to sow some neo and some vriesea seed, thanks to both Wendy and Sue for the seed. I have the coco peat prepared and in the containers, sterilized in the microwave and cooled … all set to go.

Nev, nice pics as always, good luck with your hybridising. Loved the jokes you sent too.

Sue, I like your brom chandelier, it looks great.

I hope everyone enjoys their weekend. Wendy, I hope the wedding goes well.

I don’t have any new broms, so I’ll attach a new photo of an old brom … neo enchantment.

Bye for now, Shirley

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 9, 2012
11:27 AM

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hi Shirley, looks like it is just you and I? I love your photo of Neo 'Enchantment' it has lovely colour.
The Tillandsia seed should germinate in about 3 weeks or so, but don't worry if the stuff dries out too much, unless its a bit warm as well. One tip I was told was to let them dry out by nightfall, and I'm guessing that might be because of cooler night temperatures?
I guess Wendy will be up and getting organised for the big day? I hope it goes well.
We had 6mm of rain yesterday, and although a bit more would be welcome, it was nice to hear the water running into the tanks, and the yard looks a bit fresher this morning.
I visited a fellow bromeliad collector yesterday, who resides in a caravan park, in a cabin. He had made the most of the space by hanging baskets in the carport, and making wall frames to mount wall baskets, then they were on the ground also, and across the front of his veranda, with more wall baskets, and more hangers, as well they were on the cabin walls and up both side, AND along the back! The park has just given him permission to expand into the BBQ and park area, so we did a bit of planning and are awaiting a delivery of mulch. My part will be to place the broms according to light requirements, and of course i will donate anything I don't want anymore, which a few other growers are also doing, so its a real combined effort. Is nice to do something for someone else, and know that visitors o the park will also get alot of enjoyment out of it also.
Anyway, as it rained, i didn't get around to taking any photos, other than this rare sighting of a Citrus butterfly sitting still enough to photograph. Usually they are too quick, but this one must have been sheltering from the rain.
Photo two is my Xmas tree made of vriesea flammea, which I hope will throw flower spikes this year. Eventually you won't see the framework underneath.
happy gardening this weekend, everyone
Sue

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 9, 2012
12:32 PM

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1. & 2. Vriesea Fosteriana 'Dillings Black Beauty', a massive plant for $20. Hope it gets blacker though because it doesnt look like a Black Beauty at the moment.
3. Johannis De Rolf 4. what Black Beauty is ment to look like.5. Merry Monarch.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 9, 2012
12:33 PM

Post #9328999

Sat 10th.

Good morning everyone, gee it's the weekend again, where are the weeks going? The time just seems to be flying as Christmas quickly approaches, soon we'll be celebrating a new year again.

Firstly, where have all the regulars gone? Probably some are Christmas shopping I expect, but what about the others, are there any on the sick list? If so I'm sending a “cherrio” and “get well soon wish” and wait in anticipation for their return to our forum once again.

I spent yesterday sorting out some seedlings which were long overdue to be thinned out and replanted in new containers; in fact this job should have been done a year ago. I usually sow a couple of each batch if I have enough seed, and as soon as they are large enough I thin them out into batches of about fifteen to a container to give them room to grow. The remainder are left as reserves in case something happens to the first lot I plant out. Once the initial batch are established and growing well, the ones that are left fall victim to the “cull” simply because I just don't have anywhere to keep them and I need to make room for other ones coming along.

Some of these seedlings were ones that hadn't done too well, due mainly to the fact that they didn't get the attention they needed during the year when I was crook, and consequently were allowed to dry out on a couple of occasions which is the worst thing you can do to seedlings at this size. Anyway I found a few that I had forgotten I even planted, mainly because it wasn't my own seed and was genera other than my favourite Neoregelias. I found some Vr 'Milky Way' x 'Uluru Sunset', Vr. 'Megan' x Self, Vr. 'Megan' x Red Chestnut and Vr.Gruberi 'Tiny Tim' x Vr Ospinae 'Purple'. I don't expect there will be too many champions among them but I will be interested to see what the Vr. Gruberi cross produces.

Sue – I like your NOID in the first picture you posted yesterday; I've always been a bit partial to plants of deep red and burgundy colouring which I think is a result of one of my first crosses which produced burgundy coloured off-spring. What you say about it growing with a saucer beneath it goes against everything I was ever told about brom's until “Vriesea Jack” told me that the best way to grow the Vr Ospinae types was standing in a saucer full of water and I must say that when I did this the growth rate definitely increased dramatically. So I guess it just goes to show there are exceptions to all rules and your NOID is one also.

I do like your Billbergia 'Poquito Mas', it would be interesting to see what it would be like as a breeding parent with those colours, and no doubt you'll be giving it a bit of a touch up with some pollen when it flowers just to try it out.

In today's pic's I think your Christmas tree made from Vriesea flammea is a great idea, how do you keep thinking these things up? It's certainly food for thought though, as I have a lot of these plants around the yard and have never known what to do with them to really show them to advantage. What's more I think your timing might just about be “spot on” as mine are just starting to put up spikes now so you could easily have a flowering Christmas Tree. Who knows, the beautiful butterfly might even come back to see it also.

Shirley – I can't tell you how long your “Tilly” seed will take to germinate as I don't remember; but I do remember it is slower to germinate than other seed such as Aechmeas and Neoregelias for example, and they are also much slower growers, so you will have to be patient. The other thing I was told was that they do like to grow in bright light with gentle air movement.

I like your pic of Neo 'Enchantment', there's no doubt it's certainly a beautiful brom and one that always looks nice. Mine are still quite small and I can't wait until they reach the size of yours.

Wendy – I suppose you and Johnny will be flat out with the wedding this weekend and I trust that Max will be OK with “Aunty Jen” coming to visit and “spoil” him, so have a nice time and we'll hear from you when everything gets back to normal.

That's all from me, and the pictures today are: Pic.1 is one I bought as Neo 'Prince of Darkness' however it doesn't look much like the picture on the BCR so could well be a NOID that someone has given a “pet name”. Pic 2 is the nice little compact and well shaped Neo 'Kay Jay' although this isn't a very good example of what it's capable of. Pic 3 is one of the many clones of Neo Meyendorffii and although nothing special in the colour stakes has nice shape for a miniature, and one I will use to breed from. Pic 4 is a bench of mixed Vrieseas and Pic 5 is Vr 'Angela', an “oldie” but still a “goodie”

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 9, 2012
12:40 PM

Post #9329005

Hi everyone!!!
Yes i did have my eye on that Hurriccane Alley on ebay but i missed the ending of the auction so i'll keep looking.
I could probably send out a few Fairytale pups, there still abit small yet though.
Shirley i love your enchantment. Beautiful!
1. Happy Thoughts. 2. a little Zulu pup. 3. Finally got a Jewellery Shop.
Finally have had some rain here, was getting very dry and having to water the lawn but not anymore. I never realised how many plants i have to water as it usually rains enough to not have to often.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 9, 2012
6:14 PM

Post #9329304

Morning everyone, it’s not often I can say that, it’s normally very late at night when I get to DG. It’s raining here at the moment and I can’t do anything in the gardens or shadehouses.

I have just finished planting up the seed that I prepared the coco peat for yesterday. As I said last night, everything was ‘all set to go’ … just one problem … what the bloody hell did I do with the seed when I finished up yesterday. I know I put them in a ‘safe place’ but where!!! It took me around 2 hours to find them. I was getting so frustrated, I even went thru the bins in case they somehow got mixed up with rubbish. Anyway, I‘ve found them now and am so relieved. I get so agro with myself when this happens, mind you, it’s happening more and more often. All done now though, much happier with myself.

Sue, thanks for the info on the till seed. I think it’s wonderful that your friend in the caravan park has such a lovely brom garden and that you are helping to extend it into the BBQ and park area, and donating plants. I’m sure many visitors to the park will enjoy it. Hopefully, none of the people who visit Wendy and pinch her broms go caravanning and knock them off.

What a beautiful butterfly, Sue, how quick were you to photograph it … also love your till Xmas tree.

Bree, you made a good buy with your vr Dillings Black Beauty. I would love one of your neo Fairytale pups if you find you have an excess and perhaps I can send you a neo Enchantment pup (when they develop).

Nev, just to let you know … I would be more than happy to ‘foster’ some of your vriesea seedlings. Vr Milky Way x Uluru Sunset sounds like it should be a nice one but I would be happy to accommodate any of the ones you mention should you want to billot some of them :o)

I will try placing a saucer under one of my vr Ospinae as it’s never looked happy … maybe that will help. Love your pics.

We know where Wendy and Johnny are today but where are Trish and Ian. Hope you are both good.

Anyhow, I will try to get back later tonight, bye for now

Shirley

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 9, 2012
11:20 PM

Post #9329431

Hi Everyone!

Yeah I know it’s been a while since I last chatted with you all – my bad lol; my week was really busy and I felt pretty exhausted by the time I got home to do the normal cook, clean, take the girls for a walk and go to bed early enough to not be too tired at work during the week. Also jarred my back somehow so have been taking it relatively easy around the garden, no digging holes or moving rocks around or anything like that lol, plus by the time I get home from work it does not leave enough time to get too adventuress around the garden other than a promenade here and there around the garden.

We got up early this morning to commence cleaning and making room in the nursery for my bromeliads so they have a safe place I can store them when and as I need. We managed to get a fair bit done between weeding, re-potting, moving pots and hosing out the nursery. I have attached a couple of picture so everyone can see what we have been up too (a work in progress). We need to install some proper shelving in the nursery but for now we have a couple of old shelves in there plus some wheelable pot holder stands that fit a good amount of medium and large pots, so I will be able to utilise these pot holder stands for my bromeliads in the interim.

I had a look at my wee baby vriesea seedling properly today and all the trays seem to be doing really well, I can see by the looks of things that a great deal of the seeds have germinated and I now can see the growth without wearing my glasses which indicates to me that they are doing great and growing ok.

Thanks everyone for the great info / advice regarding the garden trolley we are looking at purchasing, thanks Nev we will definety get one with inflatable tyres. Nev really like what you did with your trolley sounds like it gets a great workout with your grandsons, ah to be that young again lol. We will need to get one soon in preparation for any bad weather, cyclones we may experience. At least then I will be able to trolley them out of harm’s way into the nursery when I need too. I can see a great deal of them also been moved inside our outdoor covered entertainment area as there is plenty of room there too and my vrieseas are clearly happy there as growing and colouring up very well.

Beautiful brom’ pictures everyone, especially liked Bree’s Neo’ Fairy Tale (great colour and so healthy looking), Sue’s Bill Rosea in flower (wow what a huge beautiful flower), Sue I laughed my head off when I saw your pic’ of the Sphagnum Moss that had exploded in your microwave, I really needed a laugh that day and throughout the night every time I walked past our microwave I cracked up laughing thinking of your moss exploding – too funny! Shirley I really like your Neo’ Enchantment, I have one but it still has a bit of growing up to do, yours’ has great shape and colour. Sue your Citrus Butterfly pic’ is awesome, what a great shot and I luv your Vriesea Flammea Xmas Tree, what a fantastic idea, I am sure it will flower for you at the perfect time for Xmas. Bree you did great with your $20 buy for your Vriesea Black Beauty, you can definitely tell that it will grow up really well as your other pic of what plant should turn out like. Nev great pic of your Neo’ Prince of Darkness, this one has been on my want list for some time; that deep dark purple really catches my eye. And yes I agree Vriesea Angela is an oldie but still a goodie; I have a couple of these because I like her so much. Nev I could not help but drool over your bench of Vrieseas – very nice indeed.

Nev thanks for the great advice regarding putting a saucer under Vriesea Ospinae types, like Shirley I have a couple of Tiger Tim’s that never look happy as they have droopy lower leaves. I am sure the saucer with water under the pot will do the trick.

Bree, my NOID below of what I believe to be possible Neo Stormy Weather is shooting out some pups, would you like me to send you one when the pup gets big enough as this one I have in full sun with no scorch marks as you can see from the picture. Anyway let me know if you would like me to put one aside for you and hopefully by the time I go to post it I may have some other pups popping up by then? Bree I know you are mainly after sun hardy types and this is one that can handle the heat. I want to keep a couple of pups for myself but once I get some more pups I will let everyone know and see if anyone would like one. Let me know guys if you think it’s Neo Stormy Weather? Does anyone have a Neo Stormy Weather that I could compare mine too?

Wendy, hope everything turns out fantastic for the wedding and that the weather behaves itself. Also hope everything goes well with Max, he will be in great hands with Jen looking after him, and sounds like the vet school will work out what is wrong with Max.

It’s been raining here most of the day which has been great, I luv gardening in the rain and listening to the frogs going off all around me. I got to collect a fair bit of rain water for my vrieseas also which was great as it will do them the world of good getting a bit of the real stuff. I needed ringing out big time by the time I came in for my cup of tea, but it is the best time for pulling out weeds and great for keeping cool on a hot day, and I luv swimming in the pool in the rain it’s beautiful and refreshing and makes you feel so alive and revigirated.

Anyway I better head off before I run out of daylight!

Have a great week everyone and Happy Gardening!

Hopefully I will find time to chat with you all during the week - hopefully!

Trish

Pic 1 Neo’ NOID – possibly Stormy Weather?????????????
Pic 2 Nursery getting revamped
Pic 3 Nursery getting revamped - pooches helping
Pic 4 Neo’ George Prince
Pic 5 Neo’ Red Macaw

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 10, 2012
1:32 AM

Post #9329440

Trish i'd love one of those pups...by looking on the brom cultivar register i dont think that yours is Story Weather though. Yours is much nicer. Is it a mini plant?
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 10, 2012
2:24 AM

Post #9329447

Hi Bree

Great, I will put one aside for you, thanks for checking the brom cultivar register. It's actually a medium grower and I think the one in the pic I posted tonight still has a lot more colouring up to do and not too sure what the centre colours up like when it flowers?

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 10, 2012
5:23 AM

Post #9329484

Hi again, just a quick post tonight since I was here earlier today.

Trish, good to hear from you, hope your back gets better quickly. I have neo Stormy Weather but it doesn’t look like yours. I agree with Bree, I don’t think yours is Stormy Weather, yours is a nicer plant. I will try to remember to take a pic of mine to post tomorrow night for a comparison for you.

Wendy, I’m guessing your big day is over by now and you can relax and settle back into your normal routine. Hope it all went really well.

Till tomorrow,

Shirley

bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 10, 2012
7:55 PM

Post #9330030

Hi Everyone!

Just a quick hello whilst I am on a tea break. It is very humid today after the rain but everything is looking lush and happy which is great.

Thanks Shirley that would be great if you could send me through a pic of your Neo Stormy Weather so I can compare with my NOID Pic 1 that I posted the other day.

Nev I put saucers under my Tiger Tims and they are already showing signs of being more happy as the leaves really are less droopy, thats so much for the great advice. Shirley, hopeully you get the same result with yours, I am sure you will.

Nev I emailed you my Cultural Notes for growing Heliconias' and Gingers today, and thank you so much for the Brom Seed Growing notes, very much appreciated thanks.

Is everyone having a lazy Sunday today, it's so quiet I can hear the crickets churpping or maybe it's all our frogs going off in the yard after the rain lol.

Look forward to hopefully chatting with you all during the week.

Happy Gardening!

Pic 1 Guzmania
Pic 2 Sunbird Nest in our Nursery
Pic 3 Neo Gympie Delight in flower that I purchased recently from Bunnings, I luv this mini so much I had to have more than one around the garden. Bree the pup you sent me is doing really well and colouring up nicely.
Pic 4 Crypt NOID, I dont' have many of these - any ideas anyone? I have managed to get a pup out of this mother plant which I am pleased about because they are so slow growing.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 10, 2012
10:32 PM

Post #9330069

Sun 11th.

Hi everyone – It looks like another nice sunny day today, and a day off from my brom's; we took our grandsons over to the Illawarra Light Rail Museum this morning for a ride on the steam train, something they really love doing, and besides I was also able to check up on the bromeliad garden that our society members planted over there last year and saw how it's going as well.

Breeindy – I like your plant of Neo. 'Happy Thoughts' it has a great contrast in colours and has a bit of similarity (pattern wise) with 'Camelot'. As for Neo. 'Jewellery Shop', well you won't be disappointed with this one, it's a beauty when grown in good bright light.

Shirley – Pleased to hear you're getting a bit of rain, it's certainly the “elixir of health” and brightens up all the plants in the garden, and I like nothing more than a walk through the yard just after a nice shower as everything looks so nice and fresh and smells so good too.

I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who puts things in a safe place only not to be able to find them later when I need them. I tried writing down the locations of various things in a little notebook and found that to be a great idea, but if anyone can tell me where I put the note book I'd be very grateful and the system would work much better.

As for the Vriesea seedlings, thanks for the kind offer of caring for them, but there's not too many and I think I can find enough space down here, but if as they grow and get bigger I need any help you'll be the first person I'll call on.

As for the saucer under the Vr. Ospinaes, I know it goes against all rules, but I was told about this by an “expert” and I've done it and find it worked well for me, but that's no guarantee it will work for you so keep a close watch on everything just in case.

Trish – Crook back eh? Well just don't go trying to do anything heavy until it's completely better otherwise you'll be out of commission all over Christmas; take it from someone who knows! Although I can now see by your pic's you do have a couple of willing little helpers to assist.

I'm pleased to hear that your babies have germinated and are looking good. The most important thing now is to make sure they don't dry out, and this can easily occur if you can't resist the temptation and keep opening the lid to look at them.

That Neo 'Prince of Darkness' is a favourite of mine also, even though the shape isn't up to much. It's an good grower, but you do have to get the light just right to get the nice purple colour. I have a couple of spares and if you would like to swap for something just send me a D-Mail.

As for your ? Neo 'Stormy Weather', it doesn't look much like the pic on the BCR which says Neo 'Stormy Weather' is a hybrid from Neo plutonis x Sarmentosa 'De Leon's #8; They say, it's 11” tall with leaves 2'' x 8”. When I double checked on the FCBS site I found they have it listed as a cross between Neo Concentrica 'plutonis' x Sarmentosa 'De Leon's #8. I also have a plant called Neo 'Stormy Weather' which has been around down here for years and is a deep burgundy in colour and grows to a height of about 24” tall. To complicate things even further I have also seen a miniature Neo. of the same name and once again it doesn't look anything like any of the plants mentioned above, nor is it registered. It looks like your mystery plant isn't Neo 'Stormy Weather', and even though it's a NOID, it's still an attractive plant which I'd like to have in my collection; after all, “what's in a name”?

Now a few pic's to finish with, Pic 1 is just a progress shot of my garden make-over. Still a long way to go but I'm getting there. The next four are new Neoregelia hybrids from New Zealand bred by Peter Coyle of “Totara Waters”. Peter also took the pic's and has given me his kind permission to use them here, so although Dave's Garden will show the copyright as mine, it's really Peter's. Pic 2 is Neo. Totara 'Gold', Pic 3 is Neo. Totara 'Hot Lips', Pic 4 is a new Neo. hybrid as yet unregistered and Pic 5 is Neo. Totara 'Fire Opal'.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

November 11, 2012
1:52 AM

Post #9330083

Hi all, I just had to engage my brain before my mouth.. i have also had visitors and our monthly meeting. I won a raffle prize, a little plant called N Bobby dazzler and also some seedlings of Werhria Sanguinolentia.
Trish your crypt is It, the reverse with the white stripe inside is Ti. I r5emember it with a saying , It is trying to tie the white in the centre.
Nice pics everyone.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Guzmania Lingulata fortuna X broadview
Pic 2 N Blackout
Pic 3 N Red gold
Pic 4 N Planet mercury
Pic 5 Lookind down at my pool area

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perke_patch

November 11, 2012
3:11 AM

Post #9330087

hi everyone. well the wedding is over. what a great day at Ettamogah pub and Aussie world. I'd recommend a wedding there anytime. we were able to enjoy a nibble and sip or two then out for a few quick rides then back for more nibbles and sips and a lot of chatting of course. Emily has more courage than me and wanted to go on rides I wasn't prepared to go on. Luckily she had lots of people willing to take her. I took all my grandkids (except Rylee who wasn't well) on the ferris wheel after lunch. unfortunately it was only dribbling rain. most rides had covers over them. I took Rylee on the teacup ride and even though she was snuggling into me she was smiling and saying "weeeee" every time the cup spun round. Pic 1 is the bride and groom in the teacup. Pic 2 is the cutting of the cake. I can't believe I didn't think to take my camera out to the rides all day. lucky someone else got the teacup pick. not sure if it was the professional photographer who followed them around for a while after the ceremony. I pulled these pics off facebook today. haven't even downloaded my camera shots yet. I'll post more pics tomorrow night after downloads. We got home after dark last night and I had a cup of tea and was in bed by 8:30pm. I didn't sleep well the night before waking and thinking of problems all night as you do. I woke up at 4AM and remembered that I can only draw $1000 per day on eftpos so even though I'd transferred enough money for the drink tab I couldn't pay it from there. lucky I had enough in the credit card for the rest. I also remembered not long after that we had forgotten to go round to feed their dog on friday afternoon so at 6am we were round there trying to keep Indy quiet while we got his food out for him. he must have been starving poor dog.

anway after such a broken sleep I fell asleep in the back seet on theway home yesterday and my eldest son Darren took a pic of me with the grandkids laughing at me. he sent the pic to everyone and threatened to put it on facebook. so far it hasn't appeared on there but I know he will wait for me to relax and then it will appear. my sisters-in-law both said today they laughed their hearts out when they saw it and one said she also fell asleep on the way home so not to worry. she did say though that she has saved the pic and if I ever post a horrible pic of her she will have payback. so I'll not post pics of her I think hahahaha.

anyway I'm off to bed now. Max is making all sorts of noises tonight trying to breath. Johnny kept saying today that he was doing really well and he is fighting the obvious but I think we are delaying the obvious. anyway he is insisting on waiting for results on Tuesday. I think he might have to face the obvious after that though. we have decided to not advertise a sale for next weekend as I doubt Johnny will want to face anyone without Max here to welcome them in. I know there will be lots of questions of where he is if he is not here and I fear it will be too raw for all of us (including Jen) to respond to those comments if the worst possible outcome happens. so we'll wait a couple weeks and see how we go.

night all. can't keep awake any longer.
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 11, 2012
5:22 AM

Post #9330127

Evening all, a very quick post tonight. We had a light shower this morning and then the wind came up to dry everything out and make another big mess of the yard.

Nev, your garden make over looks fantastic, so many nice broms. I love those new neo hybrids from NZ, especially Totara Gold and Hot Lips, such fantastic colour.

Ian, love your neos Blackout and Red Gold, lots of nice broms in your pool area too.

Wendy, glad everything went well with the wedding. You and Johnny deserve to take a break now and stop stressing. Fingers crossed for good results from Max’s tests.

Trish, I will attach a couple of pics of my neo Stormy Weather … it’s quite small, though the pups are larger than mum and a much better colour too. Your neo Gympie Delight is a stunner.

Bye for now, Shirley


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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 11, 2012
12:11 PM

Post #9330440

Good morning, such a lot to catch up on.
Wendy, I am glad the wedding went well, despite the weather. Your son looks alot like his father! I'd love to see the shot of you sleeping! heh heh.
Shirley, I hate the spring and autumn winds! You could put up with all the other weather events if only the wind would drop a bit. Fingers crossed it will soon be over.
We got 6mm here on friday, and then 66mm on saturday, so a nice drop and it put a bit in the tanks too. The sun is shining and everything is alright with my world!
Nev, I had the good fortune to visit Totara waters last year, while at the bromeliad show in Auckland, and had a great time looking through the gorgeous gardens and the hot houses. They are lucky enough to be able to grow alot of their broms in full sun, as it doesn't have the intensity as here. I see Peters hybrids from time to time on Facebook, and he has some real stunners (as do a few other hybridisers that advertise there) I love to drool over the pictures, and know they will be over here soon, as "cool Broms' is on in NZ next year, and someone from Australia will import the lovely NZ hybrids back here.
I remember my Dad taking us to the Waitakeres, when we were kids, to ride the train there. he was in some railway club and as kids, we loved it! I bet your grandkids do too?
Bree, that was another nice stash of broms you have pictured. Do you have a shade house or are they all living in the garden?
Trish, lovely photos of the nursery revamp. Your little pals look so cute. I hope your back is feeling a bit better.
Hello to all the lurkers. Karen, where have you gone? Jen, what did you get at the spring sale? Jean and Colleen, how are your broms doing ? And Mike, haven't you finished that project for your mate yet?
I had better get out and about and begin my monday.
Photo one is Neoregelia 'Break Of Day' in the garden (one that didn't get burnt)
Photo two is an Aechmea blanchettiana hybrid that has been happily living at the base of a gum tree for a few years
Photo three is a Vriesea (NOID) in the garden
Photo four is N. kautskyii, which is full of seed if anyone would like some.
Sue

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 11, 2012
1:25 PM

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Nev that last one you posted Pic 5 Neo. Totara 'Fire Opal' looks alot like what i have as red river, see my pic 1 or my pink river pic 2.
Sue- no room in my shade house its full of orchids.hehe! All my broms are in a garden which gets full sun for most of the day except the afternoon. Yes i know im running out of room and i need to weed. hehe!

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 11, 2012
3:05 PM

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Hello everyone.
I am always looking in to read all the posts but as I am not avid brom collector, I just enjoy looking.
I just went out to talk to allmy plants and open the greenhouse door for the broms.
They like being in there and when the sun shines through, the colors are lovely.
Its only a plastic greenhouse from eBay , but does a great job. Over the years I have bought three so have a place for the broms and also my other seedling plants ( brugs etc )
I have a large piece of shadecloth over the greenhouses all year but in summer I add an extra piece along the sunny side .

I thought I would post a few of my brom pics.
The skewers in the pics are for any new broms until they stabilise themselves.
I have been selling quite a few at the Trash & Treasure I take plants to twice a year.

pic 1...bill...amoena Selby Sidel
pic 2...neo...Grace Darling x Grace Darling
pic 3... neo meandorphi
pic 4...neo Morado
pic 5...neo Noble Descent


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Merino
Australia

November 11, 2012
3:10 PM

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a few more .
I hope I have the spelling of names right.
If there are any you think are wrongly named, please tell me . I use the names they were sold as.

pic 6...neo Sheldance
pic 7 ...neo Bill Morris
pic 8 ...neo Enchantment alba marginata
pic 9 ...neo Martin
pic 10... vr. heiroglyphica x Red Chestnut.

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Merino
Australia

November 11, 2012
3:14 PM

Post #9330543

Lastly two pics of the broms in their greenhouse. A bit dull here this morning so colors dont look as bright as they really are.

Third pic is a large noid that just grows and grows. It lives outside int eh open shadehouse along with a lot of the other plainer green broms and a few old mothers.

Jean.


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Merino
Australia

November 11, 2012
3:21 PM

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These noids have flowers and if anyone can help with names, I would be grateful.
They all live out in the open shadhouse and are mostly green and spiky .
Most seem to grow quite large.
Excuse the white marks, the magpies all sit above the shadehouse at feed time.

Jean.

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Merino
Australia

November 11, 2012
3:22 PM

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Stupid me, hit the wrong button before i added the rest of the pics.

Jean.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 12, 2012
12:42 AM

Post #9330810

Hi Everyone

Just a quick thread tonight and no pics ready to post sorry :-)

Bree nice pics' you may need to start hanging your broms on the fence lol, do you have any other areas in your garden you can put them like hang from trees etc?

Jean nice pics of all your broms' they look really happy in your shade house which looks nice and organised. I also use skewers to stabalise pup broms that I have purchased as well as use a top layer of small gravel around them, all my broms seem to benifit from this whether they are pups or well established broms.

Nev I had a proper read during my lunch break of your Brom Seed Raising Tips which are fantastic and I know I will greatly benifit from these notes, thank you so very much. Nev that NOID of what I thought was Stormy Weather (but is not) I will keep a pup aside for you as well as I looked out in the garden today and found another little one coming up in another pot, would you swap a pup of Prince of Darkness for this or is that asking too much?

Anyway hi to everyone else, I have to dish up dinner and then we are going for a walk.

Speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Trish
ianperry

November 12, 2012
2:04 AM

Post #9330822

Pic 1 Werhria Sanguinolentia seedlings
Pic 2 N bobby dazzler
Pic 3 Bil Muriel waterman pup
Pic 4 N Roys special mjp
Pic 5 N roys special from another strain
Hi all just did the piccies first tonight. I did a bit of clearing today for tree leaf protection along the fenceline. It is the east fence and just a jungle in the neighbours side. I am putting a cover up 10 feet high and somehow I will have to incorporate a system so that I can clean the leaves off it every now and then. I am thinking of tiltable sections. Tomorrow I will have to give the Werhrias some attention, possibly pot some up. They seem to have been removed from other containers and put into the 1 that I have. They are probibly 2 years old now. Obviously slow growers. I have 1 in my bush house that I have had for at least a year and it is only 4" high. I find it interesting that I have 2 strains of Roys special, the red one is one of Margaret Pattersons and the other is from a different breeder. The narrow leaf one has been in a shaded area for a while and is an old pic. The plant has been moved to more light down near the pool for the last couple of months

Nev I love the Totara's just georgeous.

Sue I just love Break of day and I would like to try some Kautski seed please. I will send a Dbox with my details.

Jean I don't know the plants but they are niceAechmeas .

Bree I like your Red river

Shirley your stormy weather is a nice plant, similar to one I have but different.

Have a good one.
Ian

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 12, 2012
2:22 AM

Post #9330824

Hi Everyone

I am back quickly as I forgot to say thanks to Shirley for sending pics of Neo Stormy Forest, my NOID is definetly not this one. Shirley what a cute plant it is, not what I expected at all size wise, is Stormy Forest a mini grower?

Ian, thanks for identifying my NOID Crypt as IT, yeah I can write up some lables for them now. Nice brom pics Ian, I especially liked pic 4 which has great color and nice wide leaves.

Wendy great wedding pics, what a great place to have a wedding, sounds like you all had a ball, thanks for sharing beautiful pic's. Hope everything is going well with Max.

My back's getting better thanks to those who asked. Walking and stretching really helps, and with sitting at work I make sure I get up and walk around as much as I can.

Catch you all later!

Trish

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 12, 2012
2:45 AM

Post #9330825

Hi everyone,

Sue, your neo Break of Day is lovely, glad it didn’t get burnt, it’s one that remains on my wish list.

Jean, for someone who claims not to be an avid brom collector, you certainly have quite a few, a lovely collection. Come on, admit it … you’ve become addicted too, just like the rest of us here.

Ian, I love both your neo Roys Special. I have one which is still just a pup and I will be very pleased if it grows to look as good as yours, I especially like the wide leaves and the colour in the first one.

Trish, I guess I would call neo Stormy Weather a large mini … if that makes sense.

Wendy, hope all goes well for Max tomorrow, give him a pat and a big hug from all of us.

Nev, missed your post today, hope your computer hasn’t let you down again.

Bye for now, Shirley


Pic is my neo Roys Special when I first purchased it ... along with a few bugs. It is bug free now but looks pretty much the same, hope it starts to grow bigger soon.




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perke_patch

November 12, 2012
3:30 AM

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Hi everyone. please say prayers for Max tonight as if it doesn't go well for him tomorrow he might not even come home and that would truly devistate both of us but especially Johnny. He kept saying today that Max looked really well and you'd never know there was anything wrong but as soon as night comes on he has trouble breathing through his nose and of course dogs always breath through their nose when they sleep so lots of noises.

I love neo break of day. love the small ones like rosella, small world and a few others.

today I potted up the very first seeds I ever put down in April 2011. they were from the plant in pic 1... an Alan Freeman hybrid hearts music x fury. some of them were so much bigger than others. I also potted up some of your seedlings Nev of Reynella rebel x red bird which were put down about June or July 2011. These ones were some really good sizes. I did something you mentioned to the rest of the tray and made a fresh tray and transplanted some of the larger seedlings into this new tray but spread out a bit to allow growing room. I'll take some pics soon to show you their growth.

pic 2 is a favourite neo frankie
pic 3 is our bill morris full grown and nicely coloured. everyone wants these ones.
pic 4 is a favourite n. dream baby.
pic 5 is freddie - one I got from our trip up north and it is still growing in the scoria it was in when we got it.

love all the pics. jean your meyendorfii was spelled incorrectly. I think that is what it should have been.

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November 12, 2012
3:43 AM

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I was up early this morning wide awake so at 6am I was downloading pics from the wedding.
first pic is Emily as the sugar plum fairy flowergirl
pic 2 is our family but one son was missing on the day home with tummy bug. Rylee was also sick on the day. she made it half way down the isle and burst into tears and stood still till Nanna picked her up.
pic 3 is my 3 boys Paul, Darren and Chris

last story from the wedding I promise. Rylee had seen her Uncle Paul once in her short life but still went to him at the reception and snuggled in. perhaps it was because he looks like his younger brother Chris? anway he held her for a long time while she just snuggled in. she wouldn't come to me but eventually she came to Pa for a snuggle then back to me. I did take her for a rid on the teacups but other than that she was too unwell and slept on the floor.

Oh and did I tell you all we had 32ml in our rainguage when we got home on Saturday evening? our tanks went from only 2 rungs full to only half a rim from the top. yeh... Sunshine Coast where we were only got 9ml so we really didn't know what they got down here.

off to bed now as we have an early start to get to UQ vet school early. will let you know how Max goes.
Night
Wendy

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 12, 2012
12:22 PM

Post #9331291

Nice lot of Broms Jean!
Wendy love that hearts music x fury, very nice!
and i love Ians Roys special.
I dont have any new pics, i found another one of Fairytale though...

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 12, 2012
12:33 PM

Post #9331300

Thank you for all the comments on my broms.
Shirley , I started on broms because a few were in the huge collection of epis I was able to buy cheaply back in 2006.
I liked the colors so gradually bought more. When I ended up with over 100, I had no more room so started selling off some of them.
I still sell them at the Trash & Treasure twice a year and got the numbers down to what I thought was a manageable 50 or so.
I counted them all yesterday... there are again over 100.
I just cant resist buying a few now & again.
They seem to pup fairly well even here in the cold.
I have to get a few pups off the mothers over the next week. I am very pleased that they do so well down here .
I love the vriesias and the aechmeas best I have plenty of the neos but its a pity the flowers are so tiny and down in the centre. . I dont call myself a brom collector, because most of my time is spent with the brugmansias and irises.

Jean.


splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 12, 2012
4:21 PM

Post #9331505

Hi everyone, not much to tell you today so I'll just look at the posts and add my two bobs worth as I go. Sorry I got delayed and now find myself responding to posts from the next day so I've missed a day somewhere.

Ian – I must say you had more luck at your meeting with raffle prizes than I did at my meeting. Your so called “little” Neo. 'Bobby Dazzler' won't stay little for long as it will grow into a fine big Neo. and one worth having in any collection. I don't know Werauhia sanguinolenta but according to the pic's on the FCBS site, it seems to have a nice shiny burgundy coloured leaves when grown in a suitable level of light; so congratulations on your win.

You've posted a nice lot of pic's Ian, but the one that really interests me is Neo. 'Blackout' as I could never find a picture of it on the BCR and no one down here has it either. Some seed came to me a couple of years ago of a cross between Neo. 'Blackout' x Neo. 'Mandella' and I don't know who did the cross but I know the seed came from the U.S. and had passed through about three sets of hands before I got what was left. I now know what Mum and Dad both look like, so I can only imagine what the babies which are now about 3” high will look like when they reach maturity.

Looking at today's pic's, I very much like the colour of the Neo Roy's Special (MJP) in Pic. 4, not sure of the MJP after the name but as it was registered by Margaret Patterson they maybe her initials although I don't know her middle name. The crossing was made by Roy Ford and is Neo. Meyendorffii (variegated) x Neo. Concentrica and I would say both of your plants are the same Neo. 'Roy's Special' (although they look very different) and the second plant isn't from “another strain” but is just an example of the variation possible when using Neo. meyendorffii (variegated) as a parent. Another example of its offspring being unstable can be seen with a lot of the Aussie Dream grex which often vary from year to year. To further support what I say you only have to look at the pictures posted with the original registration at:
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=6895#6895
I was unfortunate with the one I bought as all of the pups it produced after I bought it were plain with no sign of any variegation so consequently mine is now just Roy's Special NOVAR.
I think if you grow both of your plants side by side under the same light conditions you will find them very much alike when they adjust to the conditions.

Just out of interest, there was another very similar coloured hybrid from the same breeder made from a crossing using Neo. Concentrica x 'Meyendorffii Albomarginate', it was registered as Neo 'Roy Ford' by Kieth Golinski. See it at http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?fields=Breeder&id=6861&search=ford

Wendy – Good to see everything went off OK at the wedding; like Sue, I too would like to see a Pic. of you sleeping!! I've been keeping my fingers crossed for Max just like the rest of us I expect, and hoping very much for a favourable outcome.

Are the seedlings of Neo. 'Reynella Rebel' x Neo. 'Red Bird' showing any colour yet? Mine are still far to small to tell. Hopefully you may even get some with variegations as Reynella Rebel is a variegated plant (albeit unstable). Finally and just for the record Meyendorffii has 2 f's and 2 i's.

Great pic's you've posted as usual and would you believe that just last week I was fortunate to have a very good friend send me a pup of Neo 'Dream Baby” and even as a pup the colour is magnificent.

Shirley - I think the plant shown in your pic's is the same as the one one the BCR. and if you look carefully at the BCR pic you can see the spotting is similar but the colour different. They possibly look different because they've been grown under different conditions and the one depicted on the BCR appearing to be grown in a low light situation. Also they are both grown in very different climates as the one on the BCR was grown and photographed in the Singapore Gardens and this could also have a bearing on the different appearances. This is a very different plant to the one I said has been in our area for years under that same name and which I was going to post a pic of today, but the camera battery has died so it won't happen..

Sue – That's the first time I've ever seen 'Break of Day' and 'Kautskyi' growing in a garden environment. You can probably get away with it as you have a warmer climate than I, but they certainly look nice growing naturally and the colour is magnificent. To maintain that sort of colour here I have to hang them right up beneath the shade cloth because if I put them in the garden they just change to various tones of green in the colder weather and only get a bit of colour in the hot summer months. As for your 'Kautskyi' seed, I'd love some as I have a small group of friends who are just starting out growing from seed and as I know it grows well from seed it would be a good one to encourage them with; besides which we would be also doing our bit to keep a beautiful species going.

I think your Vriesea NOID looks great in the garden as well. I think a lot of people (like I did) think that Vrieseas are too soft to grow in a garden. I found that couldn't be further from the truth as I had two in our back garden during the heat wave we had one New Years Day a few years back and they handled it much better than the Neoregelias and the Aechmeas which is hard to believe as they have much thinner leaves than either of the other two. However they had no damage except a couple of burnt leaf tips, whereas the others had very large areas of scalding on the leaves. So people shouldn't be put off from trying them in the garden (like I was initially) just because they look too “thin leaved”. Another thing that a lot of growers won't try either is growing them on tree branches; they make magnificent epiphytic subjects and just seem to relish this type of culture. I have a friend with a massive plant of Vr. 'Phippipo-Cobergii' growing in a tree and it looks great.

Breeindy – Your two plants do have similar marking to Neo 'Totara Fire Opal' and it will be interesting to compare their parents when the parentage of Neo 'Totara Fire Opal' appears on the Cultivar Register. 'Marble Throat' which was crossed with 'Yellow Sand' to make 'Red River' could just be the common denominator. As for 'Pink River', well that's not registered so we don't know the parents of that either. The other possibility for the similarity is fluctuation in temperature. Sudden changes in temperatures can also change the leaf pattens as you've probably seen where some plants with a plain coloured leaf will sometimes show up with a bar across the leaf which will probably never happen again to that plant; just one of Mother Natures little “quirks”.

Jean – Wow! We don't hear from you for a while and then we get all the news at once and it's great to see you posting. I like your 'Enchantment' albo-marginata, until now I'd never seen one before. I have the plain one which I'm very fond of, but an albo-marginated plant looks great and please write me down for a pup when you get a spare.

I have a plant with similar foliage to your Vriesea which I also bought as Vriesea hieroglyphica x Vr. 'Red Chestnut' and it was later identified as Vr. 'Erotica'. Apparently it was an early hybrid from either Bob Larnach or Lou Forest and got around with many different names which caused utter confusion. I have mine coming into flower now so I'll see if I can get a pic of the flower spike today and post it so you will have something to compare to yours. With the pic of your large NOID in the group shot, it's hard to say but it looks like a Vriesea and if it is, the faint banding could suggest a hieroglyphica hybrid of some sort.

With your Aechmea NOIDS, well one thing for sure is they have gamosepala somewhere in the breeding. I once crossed an Ae. racine 'Jungle Jewel' with Ae, 'Caudata' and when they all flowered they mostly looked like the plant in you third post and it was obvious that insects had been at work and pollinated all of the flowers with Ae. gamosepala which crosses with pretty well anything that's in flower at the time and what's more it appears from the offspring that the Ae. gamosepala is the dominant parent as there are many similarities. In your last post, the first plant could be Ae gamosepala variety 'Nivea'. The other two pic's could be Aechmea 'Mary Brett' or two of its hybrids. I cant be sure as it's growing in a low light situation but try some in higher light and you'll get a more compact plant and the flower spike will be more compact if my guess is right. Also don't apologise for the Magpies, I have the same problem as do many others who grow brom's in the garden.

Trish – Nice of you to offer a swap of Neo.'Stormy Weather', but I already have two others which are also very similar and as I'm trying to cut back a bit I'll have to decline your offer. However I'll send you a bit of the Neo 'Prince of Darkness' (which also has a ? over its name) with the warning that you may have to juggle to light percentages to get that purple colour just right as I had to swap it around to about four locations before I cracked it.

I forgot to mention how much I liked the little Sunbird's nest in the pic's yesterday. I first saw one of these when we visited Cairns many years ago (pre brom growing days) and I was interested to see the female goes in via a side entrance toward the bottom of the structure while the male camps in a little type of nest on top to act as a sentry; really amazing stuff.

I've gotta finish now; too much other work to do. Today Pic.1 is Neo. 'Nobel Descent' just to show what colour is obtainable when grown in bright light. The next four are beautiful hybrids from Lisa Vinzant, a hybridiser from Hawaii who gave me her kind permission to post them for you all to enjoy. Pic 2 is a very unusual Neo which is to be registered as Neo. 'Cat's Pajamas', Pic 3 is Neo 'Cherry Blossum', Pic.4 is Neo 'Blueberry Pie' and Pic.5 is Neo. Riqueza.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

November 13, 2012
3:35 AM

Post #9331774

Hi all , nothing much happening here today. I potted 8 seedlings Werhria and watered some of my plants. The Werhria has burgundy leaves underneath but green on top making it , I believe a discolor. It will grow fairly large and can only be reproduced from seed, it does not pup.
I put some non broms in my car to take to one of the workers in a space saving move.

Nev you tease. I want N Cats pyjamas but know that it would be well out of my budget and am not looking to take out another mortgauge just for a plant. It is stunning. I have seedlings from N Mandella about 15mm high, planted on 08-09-12. They look fine to me. Maybe in a year or so I will have some to dispose of, maybe they will all be duds.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Hohenbergia Leopoldo-Horstii
Pic 2 N Princeps
Pic 3 N Rafael


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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 13, 2012
11:15 AM

Post #9332155

Good morning,
Nev, that Cats Pyjamas is the ...well...cats pyjamas! I want one! or two. I wish I could get my Neo. 'Noble Decent' to that colour too, but, despite being out in the garden and in high light, it doesn't quite reach the intensity of your photo.
I will check the kautskyii seed for readiness, this morning, as there are a couple of takers, but I am certain there will be plenty to go around! N. kautskyii grows well in the garden here, in fact, just about every bromeliad I have planted performs better than those in the pots. My theory is that they become accustomed to the permanent position, where as in pots, they are often moved, even if just a little bit, and have to adjust to changes in light direction and temperature.
Shirley, I will gladly pop a pup of N. 'break of day' in the post for you, if you don't mind a little bit of burn? They pup very well, so you will soon have an unblemished plant to admire. They form a nice clump, and are very tidy growers.
Seeing your N. 'Roys Special' reminds me...I have about 10 variegated Neos on my sales bench, from N. 'Raphael', 'Picollo', 'Carolinae Tricolour', 'Maggies Pride' e.t.c, and they never sell! Everyone prefers the solid colours, or the reds, so it seems? I used to gravitate toward the variegated plants, and in fact, still do. I have decided this sale to spread them out amongst the colours, to give them a better chance of selling. else I guess, they will go and live in the garden.
Jean, you have done very well to only accumulate 100 bromeliads! I am glad they are all growing well for you. How many brugmansias and Iris are you up to? How is everyone in the tea room. I haven't popped in for ages, as this thread keeps me busy enough, but say hello to all from me please.
Ian, I bought a mature Werauhia sanguinolenta from a brisbane show one year, and it never flowered, but pupped from the centre, and now the pup has taken over, and you cannot see where the parent ends and pup begins. They don't like the winters, so I have mine in a sheltered spot, getting morning sun, and it is a very deep, intense burgundy on top and bottom of the leaf. I also bought a seedling of the same, at the same show, and while it has been slow, it was greener on the top of the leaf, but as it has matured, it has gained the burgundy colouring. I grow them the same as a Vriesea. I did try some seed, which germinated, but didn't last the winter. I have two Werauhia kupperiana seedlings (from 7 that Nev sent) that live in the hot house, as they don't like our mild temps, but prefer it hot and humid. They 'might' have to go North if they don't grow a bit more this year.
Hohenbergia leopoldo-horstii is one of my favourite broms, and I love the tubby, chubby shape when it is grown in full sun, and the black/silvery coloring it gets. I haven't flowered one yet.
Wendy, I like N. 'Freddie' too. My husband bought me one from a feller that was taking the pups off too small, and it has never recovered. It has thrown two pups, both of which stayed small plants, and one is variegated while the other isn't. I will persevere with it, but I even have my doubts as to whether it is 'Freddie' or not? I will take a pic as soon as it is light. How is Max? I kept my fingers crossed he will be OK.
I can see why everyone wants your N. 'Bill Morris'. It looks great.
bree, I can see a couple of weeds, but your lovely plants outshine them. I don't think it matters if you had orchids in you shade house or not, because there is never enough room, and in fact, we are about to make ANOTHER shade house! gulp! And here was I, supposed to be cutting back so I can go travelling! .
Trish, I am glad to hear your back is feeling better. I have had my moments with a sore back, and have learned to do lots of things differently now. Unfortunately, I had to give up my gardening work, or I wouldn't have been able to do my own around here. I hope yours continues to mend and you have many years of trouble free gardening!
Well folks, I have a ton of things to do, starting with seeds from kautskyii and a photo of N. 'Freddie' so I'd best get my feet on the floor!
Talk tomorrow
Sue
photo is of my friends plant...Vriesea 'Rafael'

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 13, 2012
1:20 PM

Post #9332274

Hi everyone - Well it looks like its been raining here over hight so possibly no work in the yard today, but back to the garage for some more seedling re-potting. I think that's one of the great things about growing brom's from seed through to adult plants, there's always a wet weather job you can do with the smaller plants.

Ian – I have to agree with you Ian, Neo 'Cat's Pyjamas' is a beaut and I reckon it will be out of the reach of our combined budgets. Lisa sells a lot of her plants through “Michael's Bromeliads” which as well as a high quality bromeliad nursery, also does world wide mail orders.
(See http://www.michaelsbromeliads.com/ ) Lisa told me it hasn't been officially registered yet but since she first showed pic's of this plant on the Bromeliad Forum, both her and Michael have been getting lots of enquiries. She didn't say how much it will sell for but I'm sure you and I can't afford it.

You must be amassing quite a collection of brom's now as every time you post it's something new whereas I only have the same ones I've had for a long time and now only rely on swaps and the odd seedling that turns out good to go into my collection.

I like your little Neo 'Rafael' it's a lovely plant and very scarce down here. I have one which I got from a friend in Far North Queensland and I've been watching it like a hawk for signs of a pup, but as yet it hasn't obliged.

Sue – That pic of Nobel Descent was taken in Cairns where they have no trouble getting that colour at all and the same applies in N.Z. where they seem to be almost yellow. The best I can do in the garden down here is a light lime green, but strangely enough, if I hang a plant right up beneath the beige shade cloth I can get more of the yellowish colour in it. I had though being up further north yours would colour up easily, but apparently your not north enough. I wonder how our other members do with it, (come on people tell us how you do with your Neo. Nobel Descents).

I have some small seedlings somewhere of a cross I did with Nobel Descent x Neo. Kautskyi. My idea was that as they can both tolerate high light and are both in the yellow tones, the seedlings may also be sun tolerant yellows which is a very popular colour among brom. growers.

I tried a Werauhia kupperiana also and didn't do any good once winter hit. I then tried growing it from seed as I read somewhere that seed grown plants often acclimatise better than adult plants and they grew well until the cold weather struck and again they started going backwards. Even putting them in a warmer place was no good so I gave them all away to friends living up north along with my seedlings of Ursulaea Macvaughii which went the same way as soon as the cold weather struck. Just as a foot note, one of the Ursulaea Macvaughii seedlings I gave to Jen is now about three feet across so it likes growing in her area. (Time for another pic Jen).

It's quite strange; today we have two beautiful plants both called 'Rafael', but both from two separate genera; I wonder if they were named by the same grower, I must look that up to satisfy my curiosity.

Well it looks like that's just about it for today and now Pic.1 which is the plant that has been grown for years down here carrying the (incorrect) name of Neo. 'Stormy Weather'. As you can see, this plant is pretty neglected and just left in the garden to do its own thing. Under these conditions the foliage is spotted, but when grown in a more shady area, it has beautiful shiny burgundy coloured leaves; but it's certainly nothing like the 'Stormy Weather' plants recently posted here so it has to be an imposter and another for my NOID collection.
Pic's 2 and 3 are for Jean, and are pic's of a plant which I originally bought as Vr. Hieroglyphica x Red Chestnut and was later identified as Vr. Erotica.. Although it's a pretty rough garden grown specimen which has recently been potted up after de-pupping, you can still see the leaf pattern and what the inflorescence is like

While looking around the garden yesterday trying to find the bogus Neo 'Stormy Weather' plant, I found a plant of Bill. Rosea (at least that's what I think it is) in full flower (Pic.4). It was facing away from me almost like it didn't want to be seen but I got it out and got a pic anyway, and finally Pic. 5 is Guzmania 'Hilda' one of my favourite Guzmanias and one of the few that doesn't seem to be troubled with the cold winters down here. I found this hiding on a bench behind some other Guzmanias and Vrieseas and didn't even know it was there until the tell-tale yellow bracts stuck their heads up.

All the best, Nev.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 14, 2012
1:53 AM

Post #9332718

Hi all, Wednesday is our shopping day so we have done nothing at home today.

Wendy, love the neos in your pics. That’s four more to go on the wish list. Frankie and Freddie seem odd names for such lovely broms, even Bill Morris. I guess they have been named after friends or family of the grower.

Love the wedding pics, Wendy and waiting anxiously for news of Max.

Bree, I have neo Fairytale, it looks nothing like yours, which is stunning. Mine is very different, I will try to remember to take a pic tomorrow for comparison.

Nev, those hybrids from Hawaii are just AWESOME, I love them all, they are all so beautiful and so different too but neo Cats Pyjamas and neo Blueberry Pie, WOW. Neo Noble Descent is one I don’t have Nev, so I can’t comment on how well it grows in Brissie. I am sure Wendy or Jen will have it though.

Sue, I would love a pup of neo Break of Day, thank you, I will send you a Dmail. I can’t believe you have trouble selling your variegated neos, I think they are the most eyecatching. I saw a beauty the other day, neo Solar Flare, another quickly added to the wishlist. I love Hohenbergia leopoldo-horstii too but have heard they are difficult to grow and since they are rather expensive I have resisted the urge to buy one. Would I be likely to have problems growing this one in Bris.

Sue, we are working on extending our new shadehouse already. Like you, we planned to travel around Oz and began cutting back on the number of potted plants, mostly succulents at the time, so we could take off but then the super took a dive and we put it off. Since then I have caught the brom bug and I know it will be difficult to part with any of my little brom friends any time soon so I think it will be a while yet before we make new travel plans.

I have an Ae Gamosepala that has an albino pup. This is the second one it has thrown and I made the mistake of removing the first, which promptly died. I will leave this one on its’ mum and see how it fares. I also have a flowering bill which is unnamed and I will post a pic. If anyone can tell me its’ name I would love to know.

That’s it for me tonight, bye now

Shirley

Pics are 1 Ae Gamosepala, 2 bill ? and 3 neo Rafael


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ianperry

November 14, 2012
2:44 AM

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Hi all. I did some more potting today. I finished my Acanthrostaccys strobilla seedlings and now have 44 pots of them. Now to watch them grow and then try to find space for them. I also potted a N chirripo pup, a N wilsonia X mood indigo and a N gunpoeder pup delivered today. These pups I bought on e bay. I like what I got.

Nev I am starting to get a few plants here. 179 Neos that are named and mostly correct, 65 Neo minis and I don't know how many NOIDS and other varieties. I am still in the process of finding out. I know that I have a big variety.
I don't think I have posted my Orthophytums or the 1 that i think maybe a Hectia, so I just may have to take some more photos. I noticed the sun has got to a couple of my orthophytums when I was looking for seed pods this afternoon. N Rafael is doing nothing in the pup dept as yet, I bought it between Xmas and New year 2011.

Sue I was thinking about plants in the garden and why they seem to do better than in pots. Just my theory but they could be more stable, have more consistent soil temperature and also moisture. They could also have less restricted roots to search for more food and water. I noticed that with with myVr glutinosa that when in the ground the roots travelled away from the plant.Due to renovation of garden I put it in a pot. It's message to me "not happy jan" It will have to wait until i am ready, it is growing grasses anyway.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Ae Bromefolia
Pic 2 Ae Big stuff
Pic 3 Ae Fillacaulis
Pic 4 Portea petropoliana var extensa
Pic 5 Ae Peek a boo

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ianperry

November 14, 2012
2:57 AM

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Shirley, Your second pic is Aechmea I think nudicaulis , I would like to see more of the leaves to see colouration

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perke_patch

November 14, 2012
3:04 AM

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Hi everyone. Sorry I didn't post last night. I just couldn't face up after the bad news we got yesterday. As we feared he does have a tumour in his nose which has completely blocked the L side and is starting to impact the R side as well. It is also bulging out behind the nasal cavity. they've given him a maximum of 3 months to live with maybe 4-6 weeks of comfortable living before his breathing becomes too restricted. We'll have him put down before he has to endure too much pain and trouble breathing. We have already collected info on pet cremations. We picked him up this morning from the university vet hospital and he has been sleeping most of today. I guess after he recovers from this procedure he should have a few weeks of comfortable normal living I hope. We'll worry after Christmas about what happens next.

Like others on here I've also had a back problem caused from when I worked as a computer consultant many many years ago. We didn't have trolleys to carry computers and as part of our job was delivering and installing new systems into libraries we had to carry the components from our car to the school library to set up and train the staff. When I was being treated by a physio I was told the hardest job for someone with a bad back was vacuuming carpet so that was one job I gladly handed over to one of my boys. another difficult job was hanging washing as a lot of bending and reaching.

Nev there's a new fb group now for hybridising and seed raising. still only collectng members but so far there's been some good discussion on seed raising and pics are just starting to roll in. We've been potting up seedlings for a week now and our new seed raising area is getting pretty full of trays of seedling pots. Nev I had a tray with 2 sections in it and i had used spaghnum in one section and coir peat in other with same seeds. Up till about a month or 2 ago the seedlings were roughly about same size and I had planted up a few from each side. difference was so negligable that I didn't record which was from which side. However the remainder which were potted up today totally amazed me. The spaghnum side had really powered on and leaves were now so much fatter and healthier than other coir peat side. But when I pulled them out to pot up the ones from spaghnum side had very good root systems while other side often had little or no roots at all. I think I'll have to reevaluate my potting medium and perhaps do a few more experiments. has anyone else got anything to add to these observations????

Sue I used to have 1 table of all the variegated neos at our sales but when Jen started helping she started shufling broms around and she likes to have 1 different brom in amongs others as these different ones stand out. so we now have variegates mixed in with others and reds mixed with greens. whatever we want to get rid of we hide amongst a group of totally different ones eg a single red among a group of greens. We're lucky to have Jen around as she is a workaholic and rarely sits still which is lucky as we don't get much time to sit still.

I took some pics today of the seedlings we've been potting up but I haven't bought the camera upstairs so I'll download tomorrow and share then.

Night
Wendy


perke_patch

November 14, 2012
3:41 AM

Post #9332733

I should have stayed to post my comments instead of folding the washing and putting it away. when I posted I saw that another post had been made while I was typing but there were several to read. Ian I agree that Shirley's 2nd pic is aechmea nudicaulis.

Ian your pic 4 reminded me that we have several lovely portea petropolitania flowering at the moment. when we pull up in front of our house now there are flower spikes sticking up over the fence everywhere. we have lots of people in cars and buses craneing for a look over the fence at the brom. If we have the gate open they pull up and look in. blanchetianas and porteas as well as lovely coloured neos everywhere over the fence.

Shirley we do have Hohenbergia leopoldo-horstii growing here. It is right inside the front gate in a totem with the plant sticking out into the sun. It wasn't doing well with a pup on the side so I took the pup off as I didn't want to lose it. Since then the main plant has grown and thrived and is looking so nice. We also have neo noble descent which we grow in the full sun along the front fence. The lovely yellow red colours look so good against the white fence. We also have break of day and solar flare here. however as you know trying to find a certain plant in our yard is often difficult however solar flare does have a colour that stands out. If I find one I'll put it somewhere safe for when you come down again.

pic 1 is Hohenbergia leopoldo-horstii for shirley
pic 2 is neo medusa spineless. we have a tray of these just colouring up at the moment. we have always kept these in one single place together as they seem to be scale magnets and therefore require spraying more often than other neos. we nearly got rid of all of them but as they are colouring up now they do look lovely.
pic 3 is neo little rosita. this is a small medium sized neo which looks good clumping up. they are looking stunning at present with all the lovely colour.
pic 4 is my christmas tree of mini neo fireball. this pic was last year and it is now much thicker although I did see Johnny taking cuttings off it last week. must go look at it tomorrow. also because of where it has been growing all year only one side is nice and red. other side against the seedling shelf is less coloured. mst pull it out of there tomorrow and check it out for a pic.

well this time I'm off to bed. take care everyone and I hope you all have healthy eyes tonight and didn't try to look at that sun this morning. alas I didn't wake up and so only saw it on fb pics and on the news tonight. I do remember one time as a kid when we had a solar eclipse and the day went darker then brighter again. Can't remember how old I was and even where we were when it happened as that would have told me the approx age I was. ah well 16 or 18 years doesn't seem too long away. maybe I'll see another one???

Night
Wendy

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 14, 2012
11:03 AM

Post #9333094

good morning
Nev, glad to hear you have had some rain. We had a little overnight, just enough to keep it steamy today, I reckon. I know when the humidity is high by how much black spot is on the roses (not mine) I tend!
I have saved the link to Michaels bromeliads, for a long look later!
You are lucky to have found that Bill. rosea when you did, as my flowers turn brown the day after opening.
Shirley, I grow Hohenbergia leopoldo-horstii in the garden in full sun with no problems. I haven't had any difficulties with it at all. It is slow, so no pups yet.
Aechmea 'Lucky Stripes' regularly throws albino pups, and I did the same as you, took one off, and it died. Just out of interest, if you have an A. gamosepala with the white stripes in the middle of the leaf, it is A 'Mardi Gras'. Does anyone have it?
Ian, I think your theory has hit the nail on the head.
I checked the N. kautskyii seed today, for those wanting some, and they are not quit ready, but I will let you all know when they are. I also forgot to take a pic of N. 'Freddie' but thats not unusual!
Wendy, sorry to hear the news was not better for Max. Did they remove the tumor? At least you get a few more weeks to make the most of your time with him.
I am interested in the seed growing group, can you put a link on my page? I haven't noticed too much difference in my growing methods, as to Sphagnum versus peat, but maybe a mix of the two would result in both top and bottom growth?
I'm already ahead of you with the variegated plants. I have been setting up for another sale next weekend, and have bulk displays of one plant in each area, so will slip in a variegates one here and there. I'll let you know how it goes.
Wow, your xmas tree has grown. I recently came into possession of hundreds of N. 'Fireball' so might have a go at something like that too!
I have alot of Noid plats that i am looking for an ID on. If anyone can help it would be good.
Photo one is a big bugger. I thought maybe a takemura?
Photo two is also a large one (see my foot?) and is a bit more purple than shown
Photo three is another biggy.
Photo four is the baby crow I had to catch and release elsewhere, before he became breakfast for my dogs!
Photo five is a mass of N. 'Painted Lady' ready for the sales tables.
Sue

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 14, 2012
11:35 AM

Post #9333118

Wendy i love that medusa spineless.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 14, 2012
12:57 PM

Post #9333179

Thur 15th
Good morning everyone and get well wishes for anyone still on the “sick list”.

Shirley – You're right about a lot of brom's being named after people, I know Neo. 'Bill Morris' was originally a variegated form of concentrica which was grown by Bill Morris and later named after him by (I think) Derek Butcher. I can't find out anything about Frankie as it isn't registered so it's probably a “pet name”. As for Neo 'Freddie', all I can find out about this one is that it was named in the Philippines and exported to Australia.

Your albino Ae Gamosepala is just like any other albino and will die if removed from the mother. It has no chlorophyll which is necessary to support plant life. If left on the plant it will feed from the mother but will probably die prematurely.

I agree with Ian, your NOID in the second pic is an Ae nudicaulis not a Bill. as you suspected; but which one? That's the million dollar question as there are dozens of different ones, some registered and some not.

Ian – I was interested to see the name of one of the plants you've just potted as “N wilsonia X mood indigo”. It rung a bell with me as soon as I saw it as I have a plant called Neo 'Indigo Mood'. Thinking there was a reverse naming of a plant from the same grex I looked up the BCR only to find that there is no plant called Indigo Mood registered, so my plant is either a NOID which someone has given a “pet name” to or it's Neo 'Mood Indigo' although I can't be sure of this as there's no pic shown on the BCR.

Re. plants in the garden, I have found exactly the same as you. The plants grow bigger and quicker when planted in the garden and my conclusion is, this is because they aren't confined to a pot, and if they don't like where they're planted their roots have the ability to be able to roam until they find an acceptable source of food.

Wendy – So sorry to hear about Max and I think it's just as sad when a pet has a terminal disease as it is when it's a human, but you can both rest assured that you've done all you can for him.

Wendy, the new face book group sounds great and something I could really get into, but I'm very reluctant to go near Face Book after all of the problems I've had with it in the past. However if you post a link on here, I might just have a look on my daughter's computer as she is on Face Book.

As for the Sphagnum verses Coco Peat debate, I have found that as long as the Sphagnum isn't alive, the seedlings do well in it. If however if it is alive, it will outgrow the little seedlings and choke them. I see that Bunnings now sell Sphagnum in a compressed brick just like the Coco Peat and I am at present trialling it with seed and seedlings, so I'll post the results after it's had a fair trial.

Sue – To answer your question about the Ae 'Lucky Stripes and Ae 'Mardi Gras', I have them both growing in the garden (at least I did last time I looked).

I like your pic's of the “big 'uns”, esecially the one in the second pic. The plant in pic three looks like one I have which is just called Neo Marmorta (large form).

I'm pleased to see the dogs didn't get the young crow, we have them nest in the big pine tree next door every year and they come in and eat a bit of the Lorikeet's food when they are rearing young and the thing I find surprising is that for such a big bird the adult birds are extremely timid, although as kids we often had them as pets which we had reared from young ones.

I'll finish with a few pic's, Pic 1 is a nice seedling of species Neo. Guinea x self , Pic 2 shows Neo 'Gee Whiz' in it's uncoloured state and Pic 3 show the colour just starting on the same plant. Pic.4 shows an unattractive uncoloured Neo 'Gee Whiz” (Rubra) and Pic five show the same plant fully coloured.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 14, 2012
5:29 PM

Post #9333398

Love Neo. Guinea x self Nev.
Does anyone have Amazing Grace for me to buy or swap.? I really want one. hehe!

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 15, 2012
12:10 AM

Post #9333588

Hi all, a fairly ordinary sort of day here today … housework mostly.

Then again, I did see a big black snake trying to get into the brom house today but it was blocked by the shadecloth which fortunately comes down to the ground on that side. It looked pretty agro and I was only a couple of steps away when I saw it. It took off along the back patio and I was worried that our Rebel would see it, he thinks snakes and lizards are fun things to play with. Luckily he was sound asleep on his bed.

Ian, thanks for the ID on the Aechmea (which I thought by its tall, skinny shape was a bill).

Wendy, thanks also for the ID on my NOID brom. If you do come across neo Solar Flare, please hold on to one for me. Nice pic of neo Medusa, mine is smaller and looks quite different with thinner, curly leaves, a bit like Shelldance, I’ll post an old pic. It still looks much the same, a bit more curly perhaps. Love your Hohenbergia leopoldo-horstii, which has now gone from my wish list to the ‘must have’ list.

Wendy, so sorry to hear the bad news about Max. It’s a very hard decision to euthanase but far better than having him suffer.

Sue, I think your NOID 3 could be neo Mamorata as Nev said. I will post a pic of mine. I like your neos Painted Lady, they should be good sellers.

Nev, your ID of my NOID makes three, thanks everyone. As Bree said, Neo Guinea x self is a stunner … is it one of yours. If it is and you happen to have an excess, I would love one when I have pups to swap … soon I hope.

Bree, sorry I don’t have neo Amazing Grace. Did you get your neo Hurricane Alley yet.

OK, I will try to find the pics I mentioned. Till tomorrow,

Shirley


Pic 1 is neo Medusa, 2 is Mamorata

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ianperry

November 15, 2012
2:59 AM

Post #9333604

Hi all, Just another day, still no rain here. Watered most of my plants and fixed shelving in seedling house. I see that my crypts need de pupping and a general bit of attention. Everything is thirsty here but what can I expect in summer. The seedlings are storming ahead and are looking good. Shame I have not as yet identified them but it will happen eventually.

Sue I like pic 2

Nev I like Neo Guinea

Shirley i like Medusa
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Neophytum Blaze flowering in July this year
Pic 2 N Blaze
Pic 3 Neophytum Firecracker
Pic 4 Neophytum vagans
Pic 5 Ortophytum snoflake

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 15, 2012
12:37 PM

Post #9334022

Hi to everyone on this nice wet Friday morning. We've had a nice shower over night and it's drizzling at present with more forecast for tomorrow, so that should freshen everything up and make all of the plants smile.

Breeindy – What Neo 'Amazing Grace' were you after, the light form or the dark form? I'm pretty sure I have a spare light form but no dark form as mine reverted back to a light form as they often do

Shirley – The big black snake was probably trying to get into your shade house among the bromeliads to have a “frog dinner”. I occasionally saw them around the fish pond in my orchid house at our old address and I always knew when they were around as everything was deadly silent and not a frog or a skink to be seen anywhere,. Even though I wasn't all that fond of seeing them in among the plants I couldn't help admire the sheer, shiny beauty of them.

Neo Medusa is grown by a few growers down here and we've all found the same thing about it, it seems to attract that soft white scale and Mealy Bug that sometimes bothers some particular plants more than others, so just keep an eye on it.

Unfortunately the Neo Guinea x self isn't mine, nor is the pic, but I did repeat the selfing in the hope of getting something similar but none of mine turned out that light in colour. I still like the original species though and when grown in good light (like you get up north) it can get a lot of yellowish colouring and it is a particularly fast grower and a good basket specimen and well worth growing. I had a nice plant that a bloke took a liking to and wanted to buy it right or wrong so I sold it to him as I have plenty, it had been hanging right up beneath the shade cloth and was quite yellowish in colour. I'll have to hang one of the others up high now and try and colour that up also.

You mentioned Neo 'Hurricane Alley' to Bree, and I think I saw it on Ebay again a couple of days ago when I was just browsing to see what's around. Your Neo. Marmorata looks very similar to the one I have. I have one plant growing in an old tree fern stump and another in a pot in almost full sun which has turned the green to a washed out yellowish colour caused by a bit too much sun bleaching.

Ian – That's a nice collection of Neophytums you have there and I especially like the 'Vagans' with its beautiful contrasting colours and unusual growth habit.

I'll finish up today and Pic 1 which is the same plant I posted yesterday show the uniqueness of the flowers. These plants are of the helonicoides or “Watch Spring” group of Billbergias, so named because of the coiled petals which resemble a watch spring. These are easier seen in the close-up of the same flowers in Pic 2 . Pic 3 is a bit blurry (and I hadn't even had a drink) and is a pic of a first flowering of a seedling Canistropsis seidellii x Canistropsis 'Plum' and Pic's 4 is the “before” and Pic 5 is the “after” of a make over of a corner of one of my brom gardens.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 15, 2012
1:44 PM

Post #9334073

I just bought a small Amazing Grace finally and i missed the ending of the auction for Hurricane Alley on ebay again. bummer! Still looking for one. I love Medusa to and am buying one of them shortly.
Thanks for the offer on a Amazing Grace Nev, ill have to post a pic of the one i bought, think its light. Do you have a pic of the dark Nev that you can post?

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 16, 2012
1:20 AM

Post #9334434

hello all, I typed a lovely long post this morning and when adding photos, the computer froze, so I couldn't even copy and paste what I wrote. I am going to take a leaf out of Nevs book and write my posts in another programme, then copy and paste it over later.
I oohed and ahhed over everyones photos and generally had a good old chat with you all!
Now, I am pooped, as I have done something rather frightening, and taken over thousands of bromeliads from a bloke who has had enough. Gulp! My hubby and I have been moving them home all week, and am almost finished. there are bromeliads everywhere, and many pups to be potted, so I have plenty of work ahead of me.
I know, I know...'I thought you were supposed to be cutting back to go travelling'...well, I guess I'll have to employ someone to keep an eye on things if, and when that happens.
So, there will be a big sale next saturday, but tomorrow, hubby and I will be knocking up another igloo with the polypipe to protect some of the new stuff.
Lots and lots of 'Fireball'
Anyway, I'd better have some dinner as I want to get to bed and get an early start.
talk soon
Sue

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perke_patch

November 16, 2012
3:41 AM

Post #9334446

wow Sue you really have inherited some nice plants. if you hadn't already said it I would have hahahahah. you know what I mean.

Gee Nev I would have asked for one of those neo guinea pups too if it was yours. stunning plant. I tried to cross our carcharadon tiger today with a couple of other neos flowering but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. I think I need to upend them and tip some water out of the centre first.

we have a tray of those medusas colouring up at present and will put them on the sales tables next time. we were supposed to have a sale this weekend but Johnny didn't feel up to facing everyone after our news re Max. but it is ongoing as we had a call today from the uni vet. the biopsy results did not show cancer. they said they could do another biopsy to see if they just missed the tumour or not. I said no. I think he's been through enough and even if it is cancer we'll decide when he needs to go to peace. He still has a tumour, who cares if it is benign or not. eventually it will block his nose. So they have now put him on prednisone and antibiotics to see if they can slow the growth. Luckily we have lots of prednisone of Johnny's which is exactly what we would have got for Max. The antibiotics cost us $50+ so I'm glad we didn't have to pay that for the prednisone too. we are not putting him through anymore invasive tests. he is loathe to hop in the car now and he does love his car rides.

Sue we are going to see Ray at Salisbury tomorrow. I know that you have been to his place before. Anyway he is now terminal and PA hospital have told him there is nothing more they can do for him other than palliative care so he is going on one final train trip to Perth but unfortunately he is no longer able to get around to see all the parts of WA he wanted to see so when the train gets there he will get off and when the train has been readied for return trip Ray will get back on and come home. It is the train ride he enjoys. So tomorrow morning we will catch up with him for a good chat as he is quite breathless on the phone. who knows what 2 weeks will bring so better now than too late right. Nev I will look for one of those AFRN05 broms that you like. I know we have them here somewhere but I know Ray will have one up there.

Does anyone have a spare pup of aech ensign? I have had a call from a lady who said her father has given her the names of 2 broms that he wants for Christmas. One was ensign but I wasn't sure what the other one was so she is going to drop in the pics he sent her of the ones he wants with names on pic. so before Christmas gets here I have to find these 2 broms for her to take with her to Sydney when she goes down to see her dad. We have 2 mother ensigns both with pups forming but none are yet big enough to take off. so if anyone has a spare one I can buy then on sell to this lady I would be grateful. otherwise I will contact Olive. I am just waiting for name of the other one first so I can ask for both at same time.

Pic 1 is Alan Freeman's unreg plant burgundy night which is 52cm from tip to tip.
Pic 2 is one I collected seed from today. it is neo takamura grande x concentrica. this pic was taken in August last year. pic 3 is same plant taken November last year. the one I collected seed from looked just like pic 3.
pic 4 is a NOID that I like the shape and colour of so collected some seed from it today. I'll see what it produces. Nev is it worth growing seed from these noids where we don't even know the parents???? I don't mind the plant so...

ah well. bed will be calling soon. crap on TV so might have an ealry night.

Wendy

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perke_patch

November 16, 2012
3:44 AM

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Nev that new fb group is at [HYPERLINK@www.facebook.com]
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 16, 2012
10:56 AM

Post #9334700

Good morning, just a quick one while I gulp my cuppa and wait for the sun to come up.
Shirley sends her apologies as her Modem passed away yesterday (condolences Shirley) and when Telstra can find the time, they will supply her with a new one. So kind aren't they?
Wendy, thanks for adding me to the FB group, I'm having a quick squizz there this morning.
I can understand you wanting to leave Max alone. Hes an elderly dog too, isn't he, so why upset him more?
I only met Ray once, but was just amazed at his back yard. i have never seen anything like it, before, or since. Say ho to him, although I doubt he would remember me. We visited with him with Ross Little, after a BSQ show in 09. I bought an Aechmea 'Belizia' from him for $3! bargain!
Sorry, no 'Ensign' pups here. I am down to my last plant, which is too young to produce pups. I think I'll start to hang on to them now, since I am beginning to look like a nursery!Oh gawd,what have I done?
I was trawling through the Neoregelia photo index last night, trying to ID the dark neo, and I did searches with takemura and pitch black, nelson e.t.c, but can't find anything quite like it. I did notice that Bromagic had about 10 plants in a row, all named, but didn't look any different. It begs the question...Why?
I'd better go, its getting lighter out there, although more rain predicted today. I got caught in a shower when loading the car yesterday evening and was soaked to the skin. I was quite refreshed afterwards!
Sue
photo is a couple of days ago, before I really got stuck in. Hoping to knock it over in another two days.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 16, 2012
1:11 PM

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Good morning all, not much of a day today, it's been drizzling overnight and looks very overcast with a promise of more rain for the garden today.

Breeindy - I'm pleased you managed to get hold of an Amazing Grace and I'm posting a pic of the dark form I had before it reverted back to the light form. It's a pic of a “Mother Plant” and she's almost “past it” but it will give you an idea of the colour. I have found it to be a variable plant due to being unstable, and the colours can range from the light form right through to the dark form and other colours in between.

Sue – I always thought you were a fair dinkum “bromeliad addict”. Even when you said you were unloading all of your plants to go travelling I though to myself “we'll see”, well we can see, and my suspicions are proved correct, so congratulations on your haul and we look forward to hearing more about your new acquisitions accompanied with lots of pictures of course. I wish I was up your way so I could go to your sale but then where would I put them all?

As for your question about why “Bromagic” (owned by Keith Golinski at the time) registered so many of Allan Freeman's (look alike) hybrids with different names was the topic of a quite heated discussion on the Garden Web a few years back. This wasn't just with one particular cross but was with a number of different crosses and at that time Kieth Golinski was registering hundreds of plants in one go and really tied up the BCR so everyone else had to wait for ages. His argument was that if each plant was worthy of registering, (no matter how similar they looked to each other) then they should have a registered name.

Wendy – To answer your question about tipping the water out, my first answer would be a question to you; who tips the water out when these plants are growing in habitat? The thing is though, you need clear access to the flowers to pollinate them, and if the water is too high you need to empty it; but also keep in mind that if the cup is full, it will prevent ants from getting in among the flowers and doing their “own thing” as well, so make sure you tag the flowers so you know which ones you pollinated. One other thing I have found is that when crossing a very big plant with a much smaller one, often the pollen from the smaller one won't pollinate the larger plant flowers so it's wise to do the cross both ways.

As for your question about whether to grow seeds from NOIDS or not, that's entirely a personal choice. As we constantly see on this forum, there are some really beautiful NOIDS around and if the NOID you are using is something really nice and the pollen parent is likewise, then “go for it” but from that point on make sure you keep good records and tag everything. The down side is that being NOIDS, you can't look up the BCR to check what crosses they have been used in before, and what the results were. There have been some really beautiful hybrids produced from very “ordinary” looking plants and some very "ordinary" hybrids produced from some beautiful plants, it all gets down to the gene mix and what Mother Nature intends to do. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I think when using NOIDS it's a case of trial and error.

When you have a bit of spare time it would be worth reading this post from the Garden Web Bromeliad Forum as it might explain it all better than I did. http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/bromeliad/msg070505358093.html

I'll finish now with a few pic's, Pic.1 is for Breeindy and is my Neo.'Amazing Grace' (Dark Form), Next are a few different Aechmea Orlandianas from my old file pic's, Pic 2 is my Ae Orlandiana 'Dark One'; in this pic it's only about half coloured and eventually all leaves will be the colour of the one at top left. It's so dark it looks almost entirely black when fully coloured and not what you would call an attractive plant, but I bought it because it was the the closest thing I have to a “black” Aechmea. Pic. 3 is my Ae Orlandiana 'Majestic', Pic 4 is Ae Orlandiana 'Stain Glass' and Pic 5 (and my favourite) is Ae Orlandiana 'Touch-a-Pink'

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 16, 2012
3:45 PM

Post #9334961

wow sue you do have alot of broms. I'll have to get down to have a look.
Wendy sorry my Ensign hasnt got any pups yet.
Nev thats for the photo, do all Amazing grace's eventually go pink in the centre? i like them when there just all stripped. Does higher light make them pinker?
I love the shape/colour of this Concentrica x Albo Marginata.. a few palm seeds in it. Its the only brom ive had for ages and has never pupped. Its starting to look abit old and im still waiting for pups.

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ianperry

November 17, 2012
2:20 AM

Post #9335244

Hi all, another busy day this time breaking and potting up some of my crypts. Looks loke I lost my seedling area already. I also did some preparation for expanding my bush house, now to find some money for materials. I got my pool pump running again today so another job to do Clean it out ready for service. Poor broms will have to wait a bit but they will not come second. Time for another dunking for all of them again and wait for some rain. Now to see if I can find some piccies.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Crypt Marion Oppenheimer.
Pic 2 Crypt Macintosh.
Pic 3 Crypt Racinae.
pic 4 Crypt Ebb tide.
Pic 5 Crypt Snow goose

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 17, 2012
4:05 AM

Post #9335260

Hi Everyone!

Hope you are all well, by the looks of all the threads I have missed during last week everyone looks to be keeping very busy in the garden indeed. Great Brom pics’ everyone, so many beautiful ones that I don’t’ have that I really want as usual. It is so great to see what everyone else is growing, how big they grown and how they colour up.

I took Friday off which was lovely and we just came back from a BIG Brom Buying Spree and I feel fantastic – so alive lol; I got such a HUGE buzz out of seeing all the beautiful colourful broms that we got to see/touch and carry and I came away feeling great because it was nice not to be in such a mad rush like usual and to be able to take our time looking, picking and choosing exactly what we wanted to take home. I doubled up on purpose on a few of my favourites which was great also. We ended up coming home with a trailer load of wonderful healthy broms and got them all at great prices. Joe even was picking out his own broms’ and putting them aside so we ended up spending twice as much and came home with so many more than I had expected. Joe kept laughing at me and said the expression on my face was like a kid in a candy store when I first walked in and saw all that was for sale. Anyway as soon as we got home I unloaded the trailer, brought them in under some cover and rehydrated them all. Now I have to spend the next couple of weekends trimming old leaves, separating large pups off still healthy looking mums, re-potting them all and spraying them for pests and checking for any signs of disease and leave them in quarantine for a good while and see how they travel. I am thrilled to bits on how much more colour these will inject into the garden. Anyway we had a great day and spent most of Saturday doing house chores , Joe mowed the lawns and I played with my broms giving them another good water, wrote all their names down in my book on how many I had of each, wrote all new labels including additional labels for each large pup that I would separate off each mum and looked to see which of the old mums I could put in my brom retirement village.

Sunday will be spent pruning and cleaning around our pool area so it looks nice and neat for Christmas as we will have a houseful of visitors and the pool area is going to get a bit of a workout especially with our friends kids who will want to live there as they don’t have a pool at home.

Sue OH MY GOSH you too have been very busy with a trailer full of broms + some lol, sounds like you did a couple of trips. That’s fantastic, you sound thrilled but terrified at the same time, just think how the garden will look by the time you are ready to enter into next years’ garden competition, even more amazing than before and you will be able to continue your theme of growing the same coloured broms in lovely rows, my friend does the same in her garden with other plants and she only has a small yard area and her garden looks beautiful.

Hi Nev thanks if you can spare a Neo Prince of Darkness that would be great. Let me know if you change your mind about the NOID I thought was Stormy Weather as the pups are growing and should be ready to detach off mum in a couple of months, and one of them I will be posting off to Bree. Nev it will be great to hear feedback on sphagnum verses other mediums for growing seedlings.

Wendy I am disappointed I do not have a spare Ensign to spare, the one I have is undergoing some tender loving care as I brought it during my brom spree cheap but it needs an overhaul so to speak and has no pups unfortunately. If I come across any on Sunday at the market I will let you know?

Wendy glad Max is back home with you both and that you get to spend some quality time together where he is most comfortable and surrounded by everything and everyone he luvs the most that matters to him.

Hi to everyone I have missed tonight, apologies but my brom spree has finally caught up with me and my eyelids are starting to get heavy lol. Think it’s time to put the kettle on as too early to go to bed just yet.

Have a great week everyone and Happy Gardening!

We took some of these pictures tonight of some of the beauties just recently purchased (Joe wanted to see how they would look taken at night) plus it’s so much nicer outside than inside at the moment with the AC turned off, we normally only put it on when we can’t stand the heat anymore, but a swim before bed and a shower straight after normally does the trick to cool down and have a better sleep.

Trish

Pic 1 Neo Kautskii
Pic 2 Neo NOID Any idea’s anyone thanks????
Pic 3 Neo Carcharodon Tiger
Pic 4 Neo? NOID Any idea’s anyone thanks???
Pic 5 Neo Mirlo

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 17, 2012
4:19 AM

Post #9335270

Pic 1 is of Neo Cliff Siverd really coloured up way more than last month when I uploaded pic.
Pic 2 Neo NOID Any ideas anyone thanks????
Pic 3 Neo Purple Bray No. 1
Pic 4 Neo Nikiko
Pic 5 Red Earth

Good Night All!

Trish

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 17, 2012
11:49 AM

Post #9335576

good morning
Trish, I think your noid in the first batch, number 4, is N. 'Grey Nurse'?
And the noid in the second batch, number 2 s N. 'De Rolph'? Is it a large plant?
Wow, so you have a trailer load too! I know exactly what you're in for. The photos you have posted are gorgeous. I love that Neo. 'Mirlo' any chance of a swap? Where did you go to make your purchases?
My hubby and I also use the pool to cool off, as no A/C here, but we don't get the temps you get, at least not for too long at a time.
Funny you should mention about the broms going into the garden. There is about 50 of the noid red Neo that I already have borders of, so if I can't sell the 15 or so that are flowering now, I will just make another row somewhere and harvest the pups next year. Also N. 'Painted Lady' must have been a favourite of the grower! There are stacks of them! At this point, most of the broms have been weeded, sorted into trays, and placed in groups around the garden in protected spots. We attempted to erect a shade house yesterday, but didn't have the materials to finish it and then it rained, so it will have to wait until monday afternoon now.
We picked up some broms from the growers yard, which I thought might have been his special stuff, and looked after, but it turns out we have two ute loads to repot!. Hubby and i went through them last night, one by one, trimming dead leaves and old mothers off, and today will be a big repot, as most have been living lying on their sides!
There were a couple of nice surprises amongst the bunch, and i will take pictures as I find them again.
Ian, are you saying you lost your seedling area to Crypts? What the? I wish I could send you our rain. It bucketed down all night! Today I will have to be on the lookout for those pesky leeches!
Bree, you are welcome to call in if you're ever down this way. If you give your N. concentrica x albomarginata a bit of slow release fertiliser, you might find it throws a pup. I would try dropping one or two of the fertiliser pellets (or prills as they are sometimes called) into a leaf near the base, as this sometimes encourages pups.
Nev, I think thats a lousy excuse for registering all those plants. I like the idea of giving the whole grex a registered name, and only the outstanding ones get a special name, and then mulch the rest. Look how hard it is trying to ID a plant that seems to have something special, let alone a wishy washy, nothing looking plant.
Yes, you are right! I am an addict, but had got to a point where I couldn't justify buying expensive plants for the collection, but now...I have enough to make a go of it, I think, and in time, if I can make a profit, I will be able to buy nice stuff to propagate more of, as well as enjoy the ones I have around me. I am worried that might go the way of other growers I have met, and the plants might become neglected, but at this time, I feel I can manage for the moment.
I had better get my potting gear on and get started.

photo one and two shows how we managed to do a double load, and get shelving home at the same time. I pulled the shade cloth over and it was the perfect length to drape down the sides and secure. I packed any spaces with trays to make sure nothing would move. All good
So far, we have done three loads of A. blanchettianas, at 18 in a load. Things must be planted in rock, they are so heavy! Most are cold damaged or wind damaged, but the pups will be ok.
Sue


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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 17, 2012
1:04 PM

Post #9335621

Thanks for the advise Sue. I also think Trish has a Johannis De Rolf next to her Cliff Siverd photo, heres mine...

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 17, 2012
1:14 PM

Post #9335623

Sun 18th

Hi everyone – Looks like a nice fine day today so back out in the yard again to sort out a few more plants. I just noticed late yesterday (just on dark) that my Ae Nudicaulis 'Giant' is flowering so I'll try and get some new pic's of it and some other plants today so I can post them tomorrow.

Bree – Like many other brom's, all of my Amazing Graces colour up in the centre when they are getting ready to flower. I don't think this detracts from them in any way and is just one of the may steps of the life cycle.

That's a lovely Neo concentrica albo-marginata in your pic and like Sue says, you can sometimes encourage pupping with a little extra fertilizer as well as a prill in the lower leaf axils, but don't “over do it” as more isn't necessarily better. Make sure that the prills you use a the “coated type” like Osmocote or Nutricote as there are others on the market that aren't coated and they could burn the leaves.

Ian – More nice Cryptanthus. Have you got any tips for us yet as you seem to have the right cultural methods for them and we'd like you to share your secrets with us so we can all grow them as well as you. From what you say it seems like you need to have a forty eight hour day to fit in all your work, however, what doesn't get done today will still be there tomorrow.

Trish – What are you doing? Trying to make it a contest between you and Sue to see who can buy the most plants? Anyway whatever you are doing it will be good for us all in a year or two as you will have heaps of pups to sell and swap.

They are beautiful plants in your pic's and I don't know what it is with you growers up north, but you all seem to be able to get onto some “crackerjack” NOIDS and it make one wonder why they were never named as some are certainly better than some being registered at present. I agree with Sue that Pic 4 in the first batch does look like Neo 'Grey Nurse', but I'm not sure about the other one Sue thinks could be De Rolf, it doesn't seem to have as much colour as mine, but then I suppose it depends on where it was grown. Ther's more pic's for comparison at http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3915#3915

Like Sue I too like you Neo. Mirlo, I hadn't seen that one before and can't find it on the BCR but it's a great colour with just a hint of marbling in the leaves and when you get a spare pup I'd be interested in a swap also (after Sue of course as she was in first). I also fancy Neo 'Red Earth' with its nice colour and filled in shape.

By the way Trish, if you D-Mail me your postal details I'll get that 'Prince of Darkness' in the mail for you.

Sue – You sure know how to load a ute to get the most plants on board. I could have done with you down here when I was taking plants to the show this year. You do seem to have a surplus of Neo. Painted Lady in your haul and like you say it may have been a favourite of the grower or maybe it was just one that sold well.

Sue, I couldn't agree more with you about how we should still be naming the whole grex and then just naming the special ones as was done previously. It's a tried and tested system that is still used by the orchid growing community and works well.

Well it looks like you now have sufficient stock on which to build a business, you have the “know how” and are still young enough to make it work and all I can say is I eagerly await your first price list.

That's it from me today and just a couple of pic's of De Rolf for comparison with Trish's plant. Pic 1 is a pup and Pic 2. is an adult plant with a twig that fell into the cup and started to sprout new leaves and roots brought on no doubt from standing in the "magic" cup water.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 17, 2012
4:15 PM

Post #9335754

Hi Everyone

Slight typo with Neo Mirlo which is in fact Neo Kismet.

I wll take a photo of Ae Mirlo today and send.

Speak to you all later.

Trish

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 17, 2012
9:51 PM

Post #9335943

1. Look at the pattern on this one, its tagged Royal Burgundy 'Supreme' which its clearly not 2. one looks more like Merry Monach then no. 2 which is ment to be Merry Monarch, i love the colour though.
3. Sunset is flowering and has the biggest centre than any of my Broms.
4. My NOID one i love the colour. 5. A pup from Royal Flush.

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ianperry

November 17, 2012
10:16 PM

Post #9335949

Hi all, just another windy day, started overcast but the wind blew away the cloud cover.Also it is blowing a few of my plants around. I have had a tidy up in my seedling area, still have my crypts there but this is tempory storage while I find where they like best. I am guessing that like other genus some will have different likes and dislikes. I think I am using my seedling area as a hospital at the moment but soon i won't be able to do that. I still am using the upstairs for starting thing off.
With growing crypts I am using higher moisture holding mix than I use for neos and I hope this gives me better results. Some are doing better than others and they all need more fertiliser than most other broms or so I have been told. I am still experimenting with them and the sun here is burning a lot of plants if they get too much. I have also noticed that more light can change white into red, especially with Crypt It and Ti.
A question about quilling and what to do about it. The plant I am referring to is Ae fasciata primera in pic 5. Is this quilling or some other form of mutation. The parent plant has none of this deformity but about half of it's pups have. Any suggestions.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 N tricolour perfertor
Pic 2 Seedling area/ hospital
Pic 3 Alacantarea vinicolour Hawaiin red flower
Pic 4 Al vinicolour Hawaiin red flower spike
Pic 5 Ae fasciata primera with distorted leaves.

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perke_patch

November 18, 2012
4:25 AM

Post #9336008

Hi everyone. missed you all last night but we had a storm so I had the computer and tv off and unplugged from the wall. of course the way Max loves a good storm and especially the thunder it has been impossible to make his sit down and stay calm and quiet. same again today. for once the weather bureau was right when they predicted a super cell forming. we've had several storms each day all weekend.

Sue we went to Ray's place yesterday but you wouldn't recognise his plants now. I remember what it looked like first time we went there. it was the colour that amazed us too. the last time we were there before yesterday was first time Ray had finished a bout of chemo and radiation and the plants had suffered a bit but he'd had a few friends there and they had started cleaning up for him. he had even started buying foliage vriseas on ebay. the sad part is the same plants looked terrible yesterday. we only went there to have a chat and check up on him and Johnny's sister was getting some plants to start off her collection. we must have spent too long chatting and had just gone downstairs with Ray to help Trish pick out some plants. We couldn't go too far from the house as there were so many spider webs crossing all the paths and weeds that were chest high to wade through. all the broms we could see were so full of dead leaves. we couldnt' help ourselves and did pluck off as many leaves as we could but Ray was tiring and becoming breathless so Trish grabbed what she wanted. We also had to pick up his tillandsai collection that we had commited to buy off him before this latest bout of chemo and radiation. he remembered that we wanted them so we had the cash to pay for them but nothing else. it was while I was plucking leaves that I saw a patch of colour right down the back corner on the ground and had to investigate. It took a lot of swiping away spider webs and pushing through weeds to discover the plant in pic 1 neo bob & grace (sport). dead mum in the middle had so much dead stuff surrounding them that it took a while to identify something special and I made sure there was another pot of them left for Ray. I thought the worst he could say was I couldn't have it but luckily he was generous and let me buy it for a ridiculous price. It was while I was rescuing bob & grace that the heavens opened up and Johnny said it was a very very bad storm approaching so we had to make a very quick dash home. It was still only 10 or 10.15ish so we hadn't had a very long visit. anyway I am still trying to clean up, separate and pot up all the potted tillandsias. a lot of lindenii pink, tricolour, cyanea, complanata, lieboniana, faciculata and a single flabellata.
Pic 2 is the FCBS version of bob & grace so mine seems to be the reverse of the patterning.
Bree I think your NOID in pic 4 could be tricolour perfecta as Ian posted or possibly piccolo. pic 3 is tricolor perfecta. pic 4 and 5 is picollo

Shirley sorry to hear about your modem problem. hope you are back on line asap.

Ian love you seedling area. I was glad to see that you have trays under your seedling trays. we've noticed that our seedlings have grown so much quicker since we started putting water into the trays they sit in so they can have as much as they want to take up through their mix. the aechmeas, alcants and billbergias in particular are really doubling in size. I been loathe to put the vriseas and neos into dishes with too much water.

well I can hear thunder again I think so might have to turn off again soon. might have an early night I think.
Night everyone.
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 18, 2012
5:19 PM

Post #9336533

Mon 19th

Hi everyone – Today's intentions were good and I starred watering early this morning at about 5.30 but after about two hours it started to “pelt down” so that put paid to that. It's now still fine drizzle but not enough to water the remainder of the plants but just enough for me to get soaked, so they'll just have to wait.

Trish don't worry about the “typo”, whether it's Neo 'Mirlo' or Neo 'Kismet' doesn't matter; I still would like a pup when you get one spare.

Breeindy – Your plant in the first Pic. isn't Royal Burgundy 'Supreme' as that is an albo-marginated plant (which can also be a bit unstable). I know this because I bought one and all it's ever thrown me is plain pups, not one which is albo-marginated, and it looks like it only has possibly one more pup left in it so fingers crossed that this pup may be the one I want and not another to join the heap of NOVARS.

The first plant in your pic's is more likely to be Neo 'Merry Monarch' as it can have sometimes more or less white marking than yours, but it usually always has the white banding. I have no idea what the plant in your second pic is.

Ian – Congratulations on your beautiful plant of Tricolour Perfecta. I bought one years ago called Neo. Carolinae Tricolor 'Perfecta' and it wasn't until recently when looking through the BCR that I found there had been some name changes and the person I bought it from hadn't kept up to date with the changes. So rather than me trying to explain it to you it's best you look up the BCR at http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7583#7583

Part of what they say is, ”... described and named Neoregelia carolinae var. tricolor which became N. carolinae forma tricolor in Phytologia 1967 and was completely ignored in 'An Alphabetical List of Bromeliad Binomials ', Eighth Edition 2002 but has been resurrected now as Neoregelia 'Tricolor' .

On further investigation at http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=6275#6275 part of the text explains: “...the plant is commonly called "Tricolor Perfecta" but patent and registration documents show the proper name as 'Perfecta Tricolor' …...” so it would appear from this that the correct name of your plant is Neoregelia PerfectaTricolour.

If you want to complicate things even further you can also read what's written at http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7584#7584 …. and then you'll have the whole interesting story. Anyway, no matter what the name is you have grown it exceptionally well and it's a credit to you.

As for your question about quilling; that's not what your Ae. Fasciata in Pic 5 has. Quilling is where the leaves stick together and have to be manually separated. The cause hasn't been proven for sure, but is thought to possibly be linked to “under watering” and can sometimes be rectified by watering the leaves with a watering can containing 5ml of washing up detergent (NOT DISHWASHER DETERGENT) mixed mixed with 9L of water and flushing off after a couple of hours..

The ridges on the leaves of your Ae Fasciata seem to me to be some sort of deformity. I have seen this quite often in tissue cultured plants sold in the large stores such as Bunnings, K-Mart etc. and I suspect it is a by-product of tissue culture production as this can sometimes produces deformities. Another example of tissue culture deformities can sometimes be seen in plants of Vriesea Splendriet and these plants sometimes exhibit deformed flowers. It's also a by-product of man trying to manipulate nature, and as I've often said in the past, if you "stuff around" with “Mother Nature” she'll bite you on the bum!

Wendy – It's sad to see friends who once had magnificent bromeliad collections have now reached a stage where they can no longer adequately look after them. It's all very well when you hear us say how brom's can look after themselves, but this is only for a certain length of time and once this time is up, the weeds and everything else take over and it's all down hill from there.

I have two very good friends both well up in their eighties now who have the best mixed collection (especially species) that I have ever seen. They live in a brick and concrete home they both built when they were young and it has a wonderful view overlooking the water, but unfortunately it's on an extremely steep block which had to be terraced before any planting could even commence.

There are over one hundred steps from the house down to the edge of the water with brom's covering the whole area on each side of the steps and a very large shade house full of Nidulariums at the bottom. At the front entrance to the house on the level of the road in, there are Neo's and Aechmeas on each side and you walk through a type of conservatory (again full of brom's) into the main house.

Up on the first level there is an exit out the back which is also a very steep area that was once cleared of scrub and is now planted with numerous brom species, many of which are exceptionally rare. On top of the flat concrete roof is the main potted collection beneath different degrees and colours of shade cloth and in the middle is a heated “tunnel house” for the very rare tropical species requiring heat. It's really a “magic place” for brom lovers but unfortunately, last time I was there, the little “tell tale signs” of a collection that's getting too much to manage are now becoming obvious and one can only wonder how much longer this wonderful old couple can adequately care for their beloved brom. collection which has taken a large part of their lives to build up.

I really like that particular form of “Bob and Grace” if that's what it is. Am I right in guessing that the plant on the right is a pup and the one on the left is the mature plant? It looks quite something with the white centre.

Sorry to hear the thunder upsets Max; we had a dog once that always tried to hide behind the lounge during a thunder storm. He could somehow sense the storm was coming as he would go behind the lounge before the thunder and lightening even started, and there he would stay until it had all been over for about a half an hour when he would come out like nothing had happened.

Anyway that's it from me today, sorry I haven't been able to take any new pic's yet, but maybe tomorrow if the rain stops.

All the best, Nev.
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 19, 2012
2:08 AM

Post #9336806

Hello you lot.
I haven't had much time to spare for the computer so bear with me. A quick question on Neo. 'Merry Monarch', Is it a smaller growing brom?
Been busy with broms, potting, cleaning and finding possies for them. Today I also had a small red bellied black snake to keep an eye on, as it was doing the rounds, probably eating frogs. I made sure it didn't come home with me.
Hubby and I finally got the shadehouse structure finished, and if I can, I will tie the cloth on tomorrow, and put down the weed mat so I can load some plants in there.
I'll leave you with some pics of the various plants around the yard, and I will catch up again when I can.
oh, seems hubby removed the SD card for some strange reason, so all the pics I took are stuck on the camera (no cord to transfer the images) I will take some more tomorrow.
Sue
perke_patch

November 19, 2012
2:46 AM

Post #9336815

Hi everyone.
Firstly Nev I have to correct you, Max loves a good thunderstorm. we've always turned TV off, made a cuppa and sat in the dark on the verandah to watch the lightning so Max has always been out there enjoying the light show with us. He has his toys that he bites down on instead of barking and he prances up and down the verandah with each clap of thunder. he loves it, but we are supposed to keep him calm so he doesn't bring on a nose bleed which could kill him. That's impossible to do. However he has had a very bad cought and wheeze today which is probably from being outside last night having a family BBQ and we couldn't keep Max from going out under the clothesline to watch the lighting and thunder. We also had to keep Rylee from being out there with him.

Nev I've already changed the name on my photo of neo perfecta tricolour. After finding the photo of neo bob & grace in my wish list last night I realised that the label in our plant actually said neo bob & grace sport. It was then that I realised that the FCBS bob&Grace had white bands while ours had the full white centre. I think the pot actually had a dead mother in the middle and our 2 plants are both pups of that plant. I will save the first pup for you Nev if you like. I actually think this white centred one looks better than the true B&G don't you???

Ian all of our ae primera plants have that dimpling. I think that is a feature of the true primera. It sets them apart from the normal fasciata... dimpling and the much larger infloresence.

Gotta go now to watch the rest of xfactor final. some very good songs on so far. Pic 1 is our ae caudata variegated coming into flower. must get those 2 pups off though. ic 2is our ae primera showing the dimpling in the leaves and the distinct centre of the infloresence which has that flat centre bit. we were told this was the true primera but there were imitations around. we also have a lot of the imitations which have the dimples but are much smaller plants and don't have that flat groove in the centre of infl.
Night
Wendy

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perke_patch

November 19, 2012
2:52 AM

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Sue you posted while I was sitting idle watching xfactor with half typed entry. I also have been cleaning, cleaning, labelling, potting and finding spaces for all these tillandsias. I actually found a pot of t. umbullata which I didn't have so now I have a pot with 3 very healthy plants.

Ray seeme to have a batch of lindenii hybrids as they all look like lindenii plants with that distinch striations on the leaves but he has a series of numbers on them and from the old infloresences there are long thin ones like lindenii and short fatter ones like cyanea but then all sized and shapes in between. so I have trays with stickers of differnt numbers on the end and as I clean a pot I am placing the plants into the tray of those plants till I get to potting them. I currently have trays and trays of potted tillandsais on shelves everywhere down the back. had to hang some pots up to free up shelves. where can I put the rest when potted I wonder????????

Night
Wnedy
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 19, 2012
3:16 AM

Post #9336823

Evening All

Wow it's sticky muggy here, we need some rain to cool things off for a bit but as soon as the sun comes out so does sticky muggy moreso.

Thought I better post correct Pic of Ae Mirlo (not Neo Mirlo) as it did not get around to doing this yesterday as we ended up having unexpected visitors that turned up.

Thanks everyone for helping with identifying some of the NOIDS I recently purchased, the seller did yell out the names of some of the broms that did not have labels and I thought I would remember them because they sounded easy enough to remember but by the time we got home I was buggered and my brain had gone to sleep lol. but as soon as you guys identified some of the names they rang a bell straight away and I went ah yes that’s what she had called them at the time. So anyway they now have a label which is great, so many thanks.

Yeah Sue Neo De Rolph is a large plant with a lot more colouring up to do. Sue we purchased all the broms from a lady in F/N Qld who was selling up because she is moving, we stumbled across her place many months ago when we went on a bit of a road trip and she had a small inconspicuous brom sign out the front of her place and told us on that visit that she would be moving and at some stage would be selling up so I gave her our contact info and she contacted us out of the blue which was great and we managed to get in early before everyone one else because we got there on Friday and her sale was not until Sat/Sun. Anyway I am really going to miss buying from her because she is a really kind and genuine person and was so passionate about her bromeliads and sad that she had to get rid of most of them. She has kept a small collection of her favourites to take with her which I was pleased to see as I could think of nothing worse than getting rid of them – all those beautiful broms. Anyway I said to her that if she was ever up this way to come and visit us and some of her brom babies that I have adopted as I said to her you never know circumstances may change and she may get back into collecting them heavily again and hopefully I would have pups to share with her to get her collection happening again. Joe said it was lucky for him that we did not live next door to her as I would constantly be over her place buying broms lol.

Sue and Nev, I discovered yesterday one teeny tiny little pup (about ½ cm) just coming out of Neo Kismet (not Mirlo lol) so Sue because you got in early I will keep this pup aside for you and let you know when it has grown up enough to be separated and sent to you - yeah. Nev by all means you will be next in line for any others that stick their pretty head up and I will try to hurry them along for you somehow, maybe if I keep talking to them nicely – you never know. I have written you both in my book so I don’t forget.

Nev in regards to sending me a Neo Prince of Darkness, I will D-Mail you with my postal address this week – thanks so very much.

I laughed out loud Nev when you said I am going into competition with Sue getting lots of broms, Sue wins hands down looking at the trailer/car loads she brought back, I don’t think our yard could handle that amount of broms and I seriously would not have the time to be able to look after them all properly and if I can’t look after something properly I get very annoyed and frustrated with myself, at the moment everything is easy to manage with the current amount of broms I have and the garden absorbs them well and the weeds are under control which is great so I am happy and get to enjoy the reward sitting back and admiring them all.

Bree really liked your NOID Pic 4, I wonder what it is? Bree my Neo Amazing Grace is in flower at the moment which is hot pink in the centre, really nice indeed.

Ian that Neo Tricolour Perfector is gorgeous – what a huge health plant it is. You have a beautiful collection their taking over you swimming pool area, how nice it must look when you go for a swim seeing all that colour around you.

Wendy really liked your pic of Neo Bob & Grace (sport); I have a pup that still has a lot of growing up to do so I will be thrilled to see if it turns out as beautiful as the pic you posted; only time will tell.

Shirley hope you get your modem back up and running soon we miss you and seeing your beautiful pics.

Only one pic tonight of Ae Mirlo.

Anyway time to put the kettle on.

Take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Trish

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 19, 2012
12:56 PM

Post #9337299

Hi everyone – Once again just a short note mainly to let you all know that I've heard from Colleen. The reason we haven't seen her on here for a while is that her and the boys have all been in hospital with pneumonia. She says she's home now and because kids are very resilient, the boys recovered quickly but it really knocked her for a six and although she's home, she's still slowly recovering. She asked me to tell you all she hasn't forgotten you and will be posting again as soon as she feels up to it.

Sue – You must be pretty busy, trying to sort out brom's while watching you don't tread on a black snake; you're probably right when you say he/she is probably looking for a feed of frogs, maybe he/she is a French snake and has a taste for “frog's legs”.

You'd better tell hubby to return the SD card as we all love seeing your pic's and can't wait to see what you got in your new haul.

Wendy – I'm pleased to see Max isn't afraid of the lightening and thunder as it's very hard when whatever you do you still can't calm down a dog that's terrified of it.

I have to agree with you as I also think the Bob and Grace sport looks better than the ”real deal” and I would love to get one and will take you up on your kind offer.

I also have a variegated Ae. Caudata as well as an Ae. Caudata albo-marginata and although I've had them for a few of years now, they only just pup and have never flowered, although I'm not complaining as I only grow them for the foliage and not the flowers anyway. In fact I don't think I've ever seen the flower of a variegated Caudata so you'll have to post a pic when yours is in flower.

Trish – The weather isn't sticky or muggy down here, in fact it's gotten quite cool since the rain started. It let up for while last night but then started again, however it's not raining at present but is as “black as your boot” and looks like the heavens are going to open again shortly, so it looks like more re-potting of little seedlings in the garage again today.

Was the lady you purchased your brom's from called Germaine? I heard she was selling them all and moving into town but never thought she'd go through with it. If it was her, I've swapped a lot of plants with her in the past and she does have very nice plants and certainly knows how to grow them and I certainly recommend her plants to anyone.

Thanks for the promise of a future pup off your Neo 'Kismet', I'll really look forward to it. I had a Miltonia (orchid) once called 'Kismet' which I used in a breeding programme and I still have bits of one of the seedlings I kept around the place somewhere. It was nothing special (shape wise) but the colours were an unusual mix of deep burgundy/chocolate petals with a light purple/mauve lip.

I like the colour of your Ae Mirlo; I've always been attracted to leaves which have a natural shiny gloss about them. I find that if I grow mine in a shady section of the yard the leaf colour will be quite dark and as the light increases, the leaf colour becomes lighter like yours. The only problem is that it doesn't flower as readily in the shade as it does when growing in better light.

Get well wishes to anyone who's on the sick list and we look forward to hearing from you soon and Colleen, take it easy and keep getting better.

Just some old file pic's today, as I still haven't taken any new ones. Pic 1 Boromelia 'Pinguin'. Although this plant is a very prickly customer and will grow to a very large size if it gets out of the pot, it does have a magnificent flower which makes all the hassles of growing it well worthwhile. Pic 2 is Neo. 'Fanfare', Pic 3 is one of my Neo Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack] crosses. Pic 4 is is Neo 'Mon Petite' x 'Tangerine' and Pic.5 Neo. 'Crimson Glow 'Red Fleck'

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 20, 2012
12:26 AM

Post #9337779

Hi Everyone!

Nev you are correct, great guess it was Germaine, what a beautiful person she is and yes her broms are beautiful, she really looks after them. We are going to miss visiting her and buying her beautiful broms, good sellers of broms are hard to find that stock good quality plants at the right price.

Great Nev I will keep you a pup of Neo Kismit as soon as I see another one pop up.

Get well soon Colleen, I know exactly how you feel as I have had pneumonia before (twice) when we lived in VIC and it is not nice and really knocks your immune system around bigtime. My chest has never been the same since because I also suffer from broncitis and ashma, hence why we moved to the better weather so I dont' suffer near as much.

Nice pics everyone, apologies I have taken none to post this time around.

Anyway, time to get tea on the road.

Speak to you all later, take care and Happy Gardening.

Trish

ianperry

November 20, 2012
3:20 AM

Post #9337807

Hi all, rain threatened this afternoon so I went and watered and rain cleared out. Cleaned out some more rubbish and then it was dark.
I was told by a grower that I could buy any pup as long as there were 2 or more. I understand that this could be so that if the parent plant died the 1st pup could replace it. If I didn't have that pup then I would have no back up. Would this principle be correct?
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae fendleri or is it. The flowers look wrong to me.
Pic 2 Ae Bert or fosteriana
Pic 3 Ae fasciata primers doing a vr style of pupping, it is different to what normally occurs.
This plant with dutch/ german tag forbidding propogation. It even has EU Patent #4712 an NL patent # a USA plant patent # and a USA patent# I guess this confirms Nevs suspicions .
It also has flyspec scale that I have just treated, I didn't see it this afternoon

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 20, 2012
10:29 AM

Post #9338112

1. I think is Manoa Beauty but its a little more maroon than red.
2. This one is just tagged MS Hybrids.
3. Do you still think its tricolour perfertor? heres a better shot. Its not a very big plant. Ians yours looks way nicer and really big.
4. Aech. Pie in the Sky and Gympies Lavender Lace, im starting to really like these Gympies and i dont even like minis.
5. Decora starting to look very fluro.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 20, 2012
11:00 AM

Post #9338125

Good morning all.
Oh lordy, lordy I am tired and sore! The things we do!
Colleen, get well soon! i hope you and the boys don't have any lingering trouble. At least while you are recuperating your back is benefitting also! I hope the weather is kind to you while you are convalescing.
Wendy, lucky old maxxy loves a thunderstorm. Lily is a mess when there is one, and last week i came home to find her shut in the laundry, as a kind neighbour had found her on the road during a thunderstorm and locked her away. Her son, Leo, isn't excited either way, and just carries on as usual, wondering what all the to do is about.
Normally, I'd offer for you to send down those tills needing room, but I am actually a little short of room myself! I have started the shade house, but am waiting for kind weather to weed spray the floor area, and then get the cloth up. It was blowing a gale yesterday.
I was amazed by your A. 'Primera' photo, as i didn't know about the groove, nor had i seen one before.
We had 110mm here on saturday night and have had brief annoying showers, usually when i am working up in the old growers shade house, where there is no protection! At least I haven't had to worry about watering the plants while I am so busy moving them.
Trish, same here as for Nev, it has cooled down so much I pulled the doona back on last night. It was 15 degrees yesterday morning, but I must admit, the cool weather is much nicer for working in!
Thank you so much for the offer of your first N. 'Kismet' pup. Its a beauty! Let it take its own time to grow and in the meantime, keep an eye on the plants I post pics of and write in your book the ones you'd like a swap of.
Lucky you to score the first go at the sale. I always tell my regulars they don't have to wait for a sale, but to just ring and make an appointment, as I don't mind who buys the stuff, as long as it sells, and the regulars are...well, regular, so why shouldn't they get a reward for being good customers. I am sure the lady is happy that you got them, and in knowing she can contact you if she wants to collect again.
Your A. 'Mirlo' looks very much like A. 'Belizia'. I wonder if they are similar parentage? I can't check on the bromeliad photo index as it is playng up this morning.
Ian, I'll go along with that theory. I usually keep the first pup, and then anything after that is up for swap/sale/gifting. Sometimes, if its a special one, I'll keep the lot, and have found if I plant one in the garden, and keep one for stock, then I should have a plentiful supply.
I am not familiar enough with A. fenlerii to say if your flower is right, or not. I have a bunch of A. fendlerii in the new collection, so I guess I will find out.
Nev, I have some interesting old journals i am going to post down to you. Lots of interesting stuff from the 70s and 80s. I will pop them in the post today.
Right, photos. SD card...check!
Photo one is the new shadehouse structure.
Photo two is some A. blanchettianas
Photo three and four are part of the sales area
Photo five is more . blanchettians, which will be getting some attention very soon!
Till tomorrow, I am off to deliver sale pamphlets and walk the dogs.
Sue


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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 20, 2012
11:01 AM

Post #9338126

Sorry Bree, we posted around the same time. I'm am a fan of Minis, and have N. 'Gympie Lavender Lace' also. Its a cutie!
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 20, 2012
12:18 PM

Post #9338168

Hi all – Just a brief visit this morning, shopping and doctor's appointments to bugger up today so I'd better not waste too much time here chattering.

Trish – Thanks for confirming it was Germaine, and to fill you in a bit more, she also sold plants on Ebay under the name of “Garden Gems”.

Ian – What you were told is correct; always keep a pup for a spare in case something happens to the main plant.

I don't know enough about Aechmeas to definitely say what that plant is, but just as a guess I would say the flowers look too bunched together to be Ae. Fendleri. What about an Ae. Fendleri hybrid or some type of Portea or a Portea x Aechmea of some sort, there are many possibilities to what it could be, but as I said I don't know a lot about them. The flowers look to me like they are forming seed pods and if this is true you are going to have seed “coming out of your ears” when they ripen.

Once again I'm hesitant to try answering your second question because of lack of knowledge of these plants, but as a wild guess I would say it's Ae. Bert grown in insufficient light.

Wow! Talk about deformities. Your plant is a great example of what I said the other day, however on the bright side, the pups seem not to be too badly affected, but let them suck all the goodness out of the mother and get a good size before you remove them. It just shows how greedy some of these “mass producing merchants” really are, this plant should have been binned a long time ago and for an international nursery to be producing this type of rubbish is nothing less than a disgrace to the bromeliad industry.

Breeindy – Comparing with my plants of Neo. 'Manoa Beauty', I'd say that's wht yours is. It is a mature plant and as they get older the colour deepens like most plants of this colour. I can't say what your M.S. Hybrid is, as the MS could be the initials of the grower or of the mother plant. So who do you know with the initials of MS?

It's hard to say for sure what your variegated plant really is as there are literally thousands of Perfector Tricolor “look alikes” about and it really needs an expert to be able to tell you for sure.
There's no doubt that it's a beautiful plant and size wise that's as big as it's going to get as it's now mature, but it could also be one of the many thousands of variegated hybrids that look similar.

The BCR has this to say about the “Tricolor Group”:
“Neoregelia ‘Tricolor Group’ Up to 2008, when the BCR was part of fcbs.org we had a Group called ‘Tricolor Group’ based on the variegated form of Neoregelia carolinae but the more we looked at this, the harder it became to sort variegated Neoregelia into separate boxes. Such has been the cross hybridising in recent years that there seems a continuum from plants with N. carcharodon size through N. carolinae to N. ‘Fireball’, and many with or without spots, crossbands and marbling. Thus any variegated Neoregelia can be called as being part of the ‘Tricolor Group’ and need not be listed.”

So after reading this it's anyone's guess.

Sue – It seems you are getting your fair share of rain also, but unfortunately just when you didn't want it with you sale fast approaching.

I agree with what you say about contacting your “regulars” about a pending sale, if they have supported you in the past why shouldn't they get a little bonus in the form of a “jump start” on the general public?

You are pretty close to the money in your suspicion about Belizia and Mirlo having the same parents. Close but not exactly right though. 'Mirlo' is Victoriana discolor x Orlandiana and 'Belizia' is Orlandiana x Fulgens discolor, so close but no cigar!

Sue I'll be very pleased to look at your old journals as I find they are a wealth of information and always have something new to learn in them and your gesture is much appreciated.

Your new shade house seems to be well sited with good light all around so we are expecting great things from you in the future.

Boy oh boy you sure have a lot of plants for your sale. Just think of all the pups they will produce over the next couple of years, so you'd better sell them or prepare to move to a farm to house them all.

That's it for today, all the best, Nev.
ianperry

November 21, 2012
1:52 AM

Post #9338798

Hi all collected some seed today from Ae Aztec 1 pod Ae fosters favourite favourite 3 pods and Ae sphaeroglossa 4 pods.
I checked with fcbs pics and Fendleri seems about right, in fact I will stay with it. The flowers are about 8" high and 3" round so there will be plenty of seeds. Ae Bert also looks right and it is growing in full sun but has only been there for a couple of weeks.
Still no rain but it is steamy and uncomfortable. But that is the weather and I can do nothing to change it.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Hohenbergia correa arrujoi
Pic 2 N Mini Cayene
Pic 3 N mini Domino
Pic 4 N mini Whim
Pic 5 N mini fall in love

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 21, 2012
3:15 AM

Post #9338809

Hi Everyone!

Quick post tonight, just got back from a nice walk and swim and now eating some frozen mango from our mango tree - ah it feels like summer. Even the pooches are eating mango, they luv it as well as watermelon.

Thanks Nev and Sue regarding feedback on Ae Mirlo, I looked it up today and got to see a picture of the beautiful red and cream flower it gets which looks really nice.

Thanks Nev for the additional info about Germaine, I have never come across her stuff on EBay, anyway hopefully one day we get to see her stocking and selling beautiful broms again.

Sue Wow you have been really busy, everything look so wonderful and organised, look at all those beautiful broms.you have for sale, sure you will get a great deal of interest from present and new customers. You must have such a beautiful and big property to be able to house so many broms. I cant wait to see how the finished shadehouse turns out full of broms, it would be nice to see the finished outcome, you know how much we all like to drule lol.

Thanks Sue for the offer of a brom swap, I will keep an eye on the pics you post and see if anything takes my fancy.

Bree I agree with you the Gympies a really nice, I just brought a Gympie Lavender Lace also and I think it is really cute and sweet. The Gympie Delight you sent me is doing really well. I am really looking forward to collecting some of the other one's that are out there also.

Bree I checked on the Pup NOID I am going to send you, it is growing really well and is just starting to show signs of flecks of color, I will see how much more it grows in another month and if it looks big enough then I will look at separating it from mum. I have since discovered a couple of more pups on the same NOID that I have in different pots so it will be nice to pop these in different spots around the yard to see how they go as all of these are in full sun at present with not one trace of leaf damage anywhere so this one should do great in your sunny garden.

Wendy I saw Ensign on EBay last night, it still had a few days to go I think if you are still looking for one?

Ian your pic of Neo Mini Fall in Love is really nice, I especially like how the leaves are more pointed in appearance rather than the usual rounded ends, something different which is nice.

Anyway, catch you all later - good night!

Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 and 3 are night shots that Joe took of just some of the recent purchases.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 21, 2012
3:21 AM

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No pic 2 - what the?

Trish :)
perke_patch

November 21, 2012
3:48 AM

Post #9338814

Hi all
wow what a big day we've had today. went to buy a 2nd hand mower this morning so we have a spare again. wonder how long before one of the kids needs to borrow it and we'll be back to one again. We also ran about 8 new lengths of barbed wire to hang some of the new tillandsias we've potted up. I found 2 pots of lindenii blue today. I think I got about 10 plants out of them. But I think there's abou 10 times that many of the lindenii pink.

too tired to do much tonight. think I'm gonna have an early night.

talk tomorrow
Wendy
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 21, 2012
10:27 AM

Post #9339104

Good morning all. I've just heard the dawn chorus from the kookaburras, noisy blighters! Still, always makes me happy to wake up to the sound of laughter!
Well, it looks like there is only one large load of plants to come, but my fingers, hands, neck, shoulders and back are all protesting quite loudly! So, this morning i will concentrate on getting the weed mat onto the ground so I can unload this last lot into the new shade house, well, some of it. I need to be a bit choosy about what goes in there, as not everything will fit obviously. I bought home about 20 Aechmea fendlerii types, so I hope they get flowers like Ians! I don't have plans for them to go in the shade house, as they will cope quite well in a protected garden spot.
Nev, there are lots of pots with multiple plants, screaming for separating and potting, so it will be an ongoing job, and i plan to go through at least two trays a day, for the next 12 months or more! Just with moving them, I had to take off A. blanchettiana pups to stop the pots toppling over, and make them fit in the ute without damage, so i have about 20 to pot up!
I posted the journals yesterday so look out for them, probably tomorrow as they went express. Its the cheapest way to post anything heavy. I still have a few here to send on, which i will get to in due course. They were interesting to read, as they are from 1970's to 1980's, and there is an article on Neoregelia 'Tricolour' and also a photo of Neo. 'Fosperior Perfection' from mulford fosters son, showing it as a new sport in his collection, and heaps of other interesting stuff. i was too lazy to read through it in depth, but figured you like to do the research, so there might be some good facts in them.
Ian, another nice group of photos. I think N. 'Fall In Love' looks similar to N. 'Break Of Day' at least in colouring. It sounds as though you will be busy with more seed sowing? How well does your A. 'Fosters favourite favourite' do up there? I have a heap in the new plants, but they all look a little shabby, and i thought it might be from winter?
Trish, I just bought some mangoes yesterday, as the ones on our tree are only about an inch round. We only get them every other year, as the rain usually comes when the flowers are out, and they get anthracnose which causes all the flowers to abort, so no fruit. luckily we had a dry spell when the flowers were on, and hopefully we will get enough Mangoes to fill the bath tub this year!
Your night time photos look great, and I can see that its time you continued that garden extension along the fence line.
Wendy, have you seen the Tillandsia lindenii, pink, flower yet? You gave me one last time I was up, and its growing well, and I am curious to see what it flowers like. I got a few Tillandsia 'Creations' from the new collection, and they are huge, so hopefully not far off flowering. I think I will keep them all and use them in the garden for impact.
Well, time for me to get up, although still a bit dark to do anything. I could walk the dogs though, and deliver more pamphlets.
Till tomorrow
Sue
photo one is under the Mango tree
photo two is under the silky oak
Photo three is in the shade of the heliconias and the golden penda
Photo four and five is where the plants came from

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 21, 2012
12:08 PM

Post #9339167

Hi everyone, we've had quite a change in the weather down here. It's cold with a strong southerly wind blowing and nothing like the weather's supposed to be this time of the year.

Ian – Do you have a pic of Ae. Aztec? I don't know of this one and although it's on the BCR, there isn't a picture with the text. If you have any of the seed you mention which is surplus to your requirements and looking for a home, I'm sure I could accommodate it as I have a group of young growers down here who are always looking for seed.

I like your little mini Neo. Domino, it's a great little plant and won the best mini Neo in our show the year before last.

Trish – I like the night pic's that Joe took, they look altogether different at night. Unfortunately it looks like Dave's Garden is up to their old tricks once again and chopping out pic's.

Wendy – Not much of a way to spend a morning. It's a pity you don't live down this way, I have three mowers under the house that I don't use any more and unfortunately my kids have their own and don't borrow them.

Sue – It looks like you have a lot of potting to do. Personally I find it very relaxing and always enjoy a day at the potting bench, so it's a pity we didn't live closer or I could give you a helping hand.

I had an email from Ross Little yesterday to say that Ae Mac Foster is now officially registered and on the BCR so to anyone who has this plant which was grown under many different names in the past, a quick visit to the BCR at: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=AECHMEA&id=11043#11043 will tell you all about it.

I'm looking forward to the journals arriving, it will be like an early Christmas present.

Sue when you get a spare pup you want to sell of Till. 'Creations', please let me know details as I'm after one.

Looking at your pic's, you certainly have a lot of potting ahead of you. Was the grower you got the plants from just a private grower or was it a brom nursery? Just asking as it looks to have been a reasonably large shade house in your pic. I'm surprised you didn't buy that and all the benches as well.

Time to go now, so just some pic's I took yesterday, firstly Pic's 1 and 2 which is (supposed to be) a Neo. I got in a batch of swaps. It's called Neo. 'Kel', and I can't find it on the BCR so if anyone knows anything about it please let me know as I think it could be a bi-generic and not a Neo at all judging by the way the inflorescence is growing. Pic 3 is a Nidularium NOID as is Pic 4 and again if anyone has a name, please let me know. Pic 5 is a Vriesea NOID I have and is flowering for the first time and I will take more pic's as it progresses.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 21, 2012
1:30 PM

Post #9339222

1. Sorry to butt in but heres my Aztec. 2. and i think this is my Domino, i killed it though.
Trish i can give you a few Gympies once they pup.
3. Look at tiger, about to flower.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 21, 2012
4:04 PM

Post #9339338

Hi everyone, I’m back … did ya miss me? Bloody Telstra/BigPond … gggrrrrr

We lost our internet access a week ago, thanks Sue for letting everyone know. Anyway, Michael phoned BigPond, spoke to someone at an offshore call centre, who put him thru about an hour of testing looking for the fault. She said it was a faulty modem and she would arrange to have a new one sent out in 3-5 days. When it hadn’t arrived yesterday Michael rang to find out where it was. Guess what … no record of his earlier call, no report of a fault and no new modem on its way.

After explaining it all (again) and performing the same long series of tests (again), the second person said he couldn’t help and he would escalate the problem to a level two technician who would call us back within 5 days. Now, Michael has the patience of a saint but with me spitting the dummy in the background, he asked to speak to his supervisor and said that if he didn’t get a call back within 24hrs he would contact the Minister for Telecommunications AND the Ombudsman. He was assured that the level two tech would call us back within 24 hours.

Anyway, to cut a long story a bit shorter, Michael finally got to speak to someone who knew what he was doing. After another hour or so of testing, the technician said the modem was OK, but a ‘glitch’ in the system had caused us to lose the internet. So, after deleting everything and going through the initial long ‘set up of new user’ process he eventually fixed the problem. So, after having no internet for a whole week, we are back on line, gee I missed it.

Off shore call centres … I know it’s not their fault, with minimal training and a poor command of English, they do their best to help … but OMG it’s sooo frustrating.


Back to broms …

Sue, congratulations on your purchase. What a lot of work you have taken on but you obviously get a lot of enjoyment out of trying to wear yourself out. As Nev said, I’d be happy to give you a hand as well if we lived closer. I had a cortisone injection into my right hip yesterday and am feeling no pain at the moment (in the hip anyway). I’m feeling really energised and I was up early this morning as I slept well for a change.

Trish, sounds like you had a lovely big brom buying spree, isn’t it FUN. I know exacting what you mean ‘like a kid in a candy store’, Michael says the same thing to me, and I know the feeling well. And you certainly got some beautiful neos. Your neo Cliff Siverd looks great, I’d love a pup if and when you get a spare one, and the same goes for neo Red Earth and also if you ever have a spare pup of neo Amazing Grace ... don’t want much, do I. Should have lots of pups to swap soon.

Bree, I am pretty sure I sent you neo Medusa. Nice pics, Bree and Ian.

Wendy, no ensign pup, I’m sorry. I have an old ensign that I thought would never pup but I noticed one peeping thru the other day, much too small of course but I was thrilled to see it finally. I did see one on eBay though. Didn’t we have some storms last weekend. And talk about bad timing … we got quite a lot of free fill delivered a while back to build up the lower section of the property while it was dry. Would you believe we have waited months to have it levelled and drained and the dozer turned up last Friday … what a mess it is at the moment. Our Rebel is quite terrified of storms and won’t settle. There were a number of very close lightning strikes and huge claps of thunder … gave us all quite a fright a couple of times.

Nev, poor Colleen, she can’t seem to get a break lately. Lovely pics as always.

Colleen, if you are looking in, I hope you are well soon … take it easy.

Well, I guess I had better get going, I have had only a very quick read, so many posts, sorry if I left anyone out.

My pics are 1. Neo de Rolf 2. Bob and Grace (I hope it develops some white markings) 3. Ae Fasciata, I like the quilling effect, if that’s what it is called 4. Newly acquired Ae Fasciata variegata 5. Dozer working before the storms hit

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 21, 2012
11:18 PM

Post #9339600

Shirley- no i dont remember getting a Medusa
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 22, 2012
2:09 AM

Post #9339631

hi ho, here I am tonight, as i won't get a chance to drop in tomorrow morning.
I am pooped! Hubby and I bought the final load of plants home tonight, after I spent the day finishing the shade house and unloading yesterdays loads.
Nev, the grower had visions of being commercial, but never quite got there, and had concentrated on getting stock up. unfortunately, he hadn't collected many new varieties for some time, but there are a few little treasures in there. The shade house of his is terrible. It is made of tall star pickets with a stretchy, plastic coated line that supports the cloth. Of course its all drooped and it rubs on your head as you walk around, and at the end of the day, the static build up leaves me looking like a witchy pooh! The weed matting wasn't overlapped sufficiently and the weeds were growing in the gaps, and overall, a very unpleasant place to work.
I have permission to take all the star pickets and shade cloth I want, but most of the cloth has holes where the star pickets have rubbed through (despite having caps) and I don't have the energy to pull out 2 metre star pickets!I have bought home the benches, and have pots and 2 cubic metres of potting mix to bring home. I thought I'd kill to birds with one stone and bring home pots full of soil, then all I have to do is push pups into them!
I enjoy potting up, but I haven't enjoyed all the lifting. I am so sore, from head to toe really.
I wish you all lived closer too, we could have alot of fun playing with our broms together.
Nev, I am sure I have a smaller pup of Creation here, but how to find it? I think your plant is a bigeneric too, and something about the flower scream Billbergia. Is there such a thing as a cross between a Neo and a Bill? I am not familiar with your Nidulariums, but they could be cross' of Longiflorum and procerum? Just a guess.
Shirley, I am glad you got your internet back up and running. I would have been furious if i had found out the first call was not recorded. I always have a note pad and pen, take the name of the technician, and their extension number and add the date.
Anyway, I got a lovely parcel from you today, and I have to say the Haworthia is just gorgeous! I absolutely love it, and made hubby look, and touch it, while he stared at me like I was nuts! Its quite different to the couple i have here. I am thinking of getting a nice pot, and making a 'Shirley' garden in it. I will post pics when I do.
I think the only thing missing from your photo of the bulldozer, is bromeliad gardens. What a view!
Bree, your Tiger looks stunning. Isn't it nice to see so much flowering going on in the bromeliads at the moment.
Well, I had better get some sleep as I have another early start in the morning. Hello to Wendy, Trish, Tash, Colleen, Ian, Jen and anyone else who happens to look in tonight.
photos are
1 finished shade house with floor down, and all gal washed with vinegar
2 half an hour later
3 an hour later ( I finished up with shelving in, but it got too dark for photos)
4 I know not broms, but I just had to share my flowering Dietes with you!
Sue

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ianperry

November 22, 2012
2:21 AM

Post #9339632

Hi all, Not much done here today. A few family problems, sons problems and I can't help much.

Sue Ae fosters favourite grows fairly well here. I have it growing in a hanging basket and it is clumping well. I also have it hanging off the Southern wall of my bush house with a fair bit of light and good ventilation. Poor ventilation has caused me problems in the past. I did not collect seeds from fosters favourite but did from fosters favourite favourite. I hope for more and could collect some from the other plant.

Nev I made another snafu, Ae aztec ought to have been Aztec gold and there were 14 seeds in the pod. Hopefully more will mature. This pod was 1 I tried to cross with Madam lash a few months ago, possibly in August. I think the ants beat me though. Madam lash is still doing something but I am not quite sure what. Maybe just slower to mature. I have quite a variety of spare seeds and will have to list them all. Then I could give some away. I know that I haven't stored them correctly but hope to do so soon.They are in takeaway containers stored on a shelf in a cupboard on the back verandah.

Trish I like the night shots,wish my gardens looked that good

Neo cherry fizz is 1100mm across. It is a monster.Certainly not one for space saving This is it in Pic 1
Pic 2 Ae Fosters favourite favourite.
Pic 3 Ae fosters favourite
Pic 4 N McWilliamsii X Bold streak
Pic 5 N McWilliamsii X Bold streak brother pup grown 1 shelf lower.
Gave a good one
Ian.

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ianperry

November 22, 2012
2:31 AM

Post #9339633

What is DG doing, it looks alright til one expands it.
Ian
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 22, 2012
2:49 AM

Post #9339639

Hi All!

Sue, yeah our Bowen Mango’s aren’t as plentiful as last year as a lot of young fruit dropped to the ground caused by the strong wind we experienced a couple of months ago. There is still a lot of fruit on the tree just not as much to share this time around, normally we give a lot to friends and to colleagues at work and I also dehydrate and freeze a fair bit for us. I have not got into making jams as such. I am allergic to the fresh stuff hence why I dehydrate and freeze so I can eat some without breaking out a head to toe rash lol. Yes I agree Sue I definitely need to continue the garden section along the fence for my new broms, unfortunately I will have to shade part of this area over summer as a fair section gets too much sun, anyway I will be shading the area over the weekend so that we can have them covered during the week when we are at work and uncover them during the right times of the day so we can admire them on the weekends. We will look at planting some natives in the wetland area to help shade the area a bit better in the coming years, it may take a while for them to grow but it would be worthwhile for the wildlife and for my broms.

Sue wow you have so much splitting and potting to do, how exciting, although exhausting I agree with Nev that it is very enjoyable and especially when you see the end result and see your broms growing how rewarding is that wonderful feeling experienced. My hubby Joe says I am most happiest when I am potting up my broms, so he also likes buying them for me and surprising me when they arrive in the post, then I run around like a mad hatter getting more pots, medium etc lol but I luv it.

Nev, Neo Kel is gorgeous, I have never seen this one before, what a pretty flower, looks more like some sort of Ae. instead of a Neo? That Vr. NOID you posted has such a pretty flower which looks mostly yellow with a touch of dusty pink flush here and there, real nice, look forward to seeing pic of flower opened.

Bree, how pretty is that pic you posted of Aztec, I think I have this one but it never had a tag and seems to do well here in our front yard in full sun all day long go figure. Sorry to hear your Neo Domini passed away, I brought a pup months ago and it has not grown much at all, still looks nice but no pups, I want to keep the first pup it has but if it gives me more than one I will let you know. Bree what other Gympies are out there other than Gympie Delight and Gympie Lavender Lace? Thank you for the offer of pups once they pup. The Gympie Delight pup you gave me is growing well and is full of colour.

Shirley welcome back to the land of threading lol, we have missed you and all the beautiful pics of your broms. Yes Brom buying sprees are definitely FUN I want to do it all over again already like I need another fix lol. But I have enough to keep me well and truly occupied around the garden until the NY hopefully so I will try to behave some. Shirley I will keep you in mind for pups once I have some spares. I am really looking forward to some of these beauties pupping for the first time because there is always that concern of losing your mother plant, I really can’t wait for Neo Cliff Siverd to pup because it’s one of my favourites at the moment and has gotten a lot darker than I expected, I think the one I have might be Cliff Siverd Dark Form? Are your broms starting to pup? I discovered my first pups on a couple of my large broms today and I am over the moon, at least I know I am doing something right enough for them to keep producing and I now have a back-up plant. Shirley how are your seedlings going? Mine are growing ever so slowly but they are growing never the less which is great.

Anyway time to put the kettle on.

Take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Vr. Pink Cockatoo
Pic 2 Neo Mini Wild Tiger
Pic 3 Neo Mini Shamrock
Pic 4 Neo Pink River
Pic 5 Old pic of Mixed Broms (so many more there now)

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 22, 2012
2:57 AM

Post #9339643

Hi Sue, Ian

Saw you posted while I was posting so I missed commenting on all your beautiful pics which are lovely. Sue great job with getting the week mat down, looks great and like it has been done by a professional. Ian I especially liked your pic 4 and 5, I have one similar growing of your pic 5, I really like the markings and how strong the brom grows, it is a tuff one. Sue luved your pic 5, so many beautiful flowers, they look awesome.

Goodnight everyone!

Trish
perke_patch

November 22, 2012
5:27 AM

Post #9339723

Hi all. Nev, Kel is a bigeneric ... it is xneomea kel. I have a few bigenerics now. I had a thing about collecting some for a while not even knowing what they would come out like. one that I really like is neomea munchkin. Pic 1 is xneomeamunchkin, pic 2 is xneomea kel, pic 3 is xneomea scorpio which is growing in full sun now and is even redder than this pic.

Pic 3 is for your Nev and is our ae caudata variegata infloresence getting neo full size now and about ready for flowers to open. Pic 5 is a caudata flowering at a friends place. it is a pot full growing in full morning sun through to midday at least. ooops DG has loaded some pics faster than others and mixed them up.

Shirley glad you got back up and running. we had same problem with telstra and Johnny's mums phone. she moved into high care in May and the phone should have been disconnected but the accounts kept coming each month. each month I would ring up and was told many times the phone was definately disconnected and ignore the bills but they kept coming. I kept phoning up and talking to foreign sounding people until I finally insisted on talking to an Australian consultant. It only took them a couple minutes to work out that the accounting db wasn't talking to technical db when disconnection was processed so he had to reconnect then disconnect again and all solved with bill wiped. If only we still had Aust call centres it would have been fixed. Oh and telstra has 3 call centres in Malaysia if anyones interested. LOL

Sue your new tunnel looks great. well done you clever thing. I love till creation. there are heaps of clones out there of this one. Catlan's have collected about 8 different ones now. I have 2 ... 1 is a quite green leaved version and other from Catlan's is a red striped leaf one similar to lindenii but much bigger and I presume flower should be quite different to lindenii.

Well time for bed as we have an early start in the morning to get to the hospital for an appt. can't wait for scorpio to load so I'll cancel that one and post tomorrow night.
Night all
Wendy



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 22, 2012
12:53 PM

Post #9340017

Hi everyone – Well it looks like another nice day for some work in the garden. I spent all of yesterday at the Light Rail Museum doing office work and writing bloody S.O.P's; but then I suppose someone has to do it and at least it frees up some of the others for the more physical work I can't do any more. Anyway I'm back to the garden today to continue my “work in progress”.

Shirley – Your experience sounds exactly like one we had with Telstra Big Pond. The initial phone call took five hours (not me) I haven't the patience of a Saint like my wife, but it resulted in her being told the problem was the modem and a new one would be sent within five working days. When it eventually arrived and was hooked up, still the same problem so another call to Telstra only to be told again the modem needed replacing and one would be sent within five working days. In the end my wife demanded to speak to a supervisor and an American woman came on and introduced herself as the Supervisor and sorted out the problem in about ten minutes. I don't blame the people at the call centres, I blame Telstra for trying to do it “on the cheap” and not properly training its people

I love your pic's especially Neo. De Rolf (one of my favourites) and can just visualise a nice big “Bromeliad Botanical Garden” where the bulldozer is now working so we expect a lot of progress pic's in the future. (pretty please)

Sue – It must be good when you can almost see some light at the end of the tunnel or is that (light at the end of the falling down shade house)? Anyway, you've almost got there and will soon be hopefully making a bit of money at your upcoming sale which will make all of the work worthwhile.

To answer your question about whether there is such a thing as a cross between a Neo and a Billbergia, the answer is yes; but there is only a couple of crosses registered and only one pic. The pic is of a plant called xNeobergia 'Noddy' and made by W. Morris in the 1960's and is a cross between Billbergia Nutans (Seed parent) and Neo. Carolinae (Pollen parent) see: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=xNEOBERGIA&id=9382#9382
Judging by the shape of the inflorescence, you could be right on the money so it will be interesting to see what eventuates. I'll keep taking progressive pic's so I have a record to help later identification attempts and in the meantime I'll get back to the lady I swapped with to see what she knows about the plant. Stay tuned for future developments.

I love the new shade house, really neat and tidy and when everything gets back to normal after your sale you must give us some instructions about how it was constructed. It looks a very simple yet functional construction and the finished product certainly looks so neat and tidy and very professional, congratulations on a job well done! By the way, how much overlap do you give the weed mat to be effective?

Ian – I suspected it may have been 'Aztec Gold' you were speaking of, in any case the resulting seedlings could be interesting whatever way they go, but if Aztec Gold was the seed parent, it's highly unlikely you will get any variegated plants as it's generally accepted that albo-marginated plants will usually just throw albinos with the occasional plain green plant. Apparently the cross will work if the albo-marginated plant is used as the pollen parent though.

As for seed storage, I have read many different ways of doing this and I usually just put the seed in small paper envelopes and put them inside a plastic take-away container and store in the fridge with a little Silica Gel and I have used seed over twelve months old with good results when stored in this manner. I have also trialled freezer storage for longer term and found seed still viable after 4 years. I do this in a similar way except instead of a take-away container, I put them in a screw top jar. I did read where it will keep for up to 20 years using this method. I don't know how the seed banks store their seed but it would be interesting to find out, so if anyone knows, please pass it on to the rest of us.

Trish – I'm just as interested as you as I wait to see how the flowers on the NOID ?Neo and NOID Vriesea develop. It's just like flowering a seedling for the first time, it's the anticipation of possiby getting something special.

To answer you question to Bree about 'Gympies', there are still another 40 or so 'Gympies' registered and you can see pic's of them all on: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA#G

You've posted some great pic's again as usual but I think the real “stand out” has to be Neo 'Shamrock' is it a mini also?

Wendy – Well I guess you've answered my question and saved me a bit of investigative work about the xNeomea 'Kel'. What else do you know about it? It's not registered so it helps to know as much as possible about it and who did the cross and where and when etc., so anything you can tell us helps. It is an attractive looking flower but your plant seems bigger than mine, maybe that's because mine is only a pup and possibly flowering prematurely, so can you tell as what size your plant is?

I like your variegated Ae. Caudata too; are the flowers similar colour to Ae Eipperi? My Ae. Caudata 'Eipperi' are all in flower at the moment but nothing showing on the albo-marginated Caudata. Maybe it's time I moved it to another spot and gave it a bit of a “shake up”!

Bugger! It looks like Dave's Garden has eaten your pic of xNeomea 'scorpio', do you think you could post it again please?

Time to go, so a few pic's of Neo's to finish with, Pic1 Neo. 'Bold Streak' x Neo. Mc Williamsii grown in good light Pic 2 Neo. 'Bold Streak' x Neo. Mc Williamsii grown in low light to show the important difference light makes to the plant colours. Pic's 3, 4 and 5 are just some mixed plants showing all the nice colours at this time of the year.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 23, 2012
2:26 AM

Post #9340342

Hi All!

Nev yes the Neo Shamrock pic I posted yesterday is a mini grower, I really adore it because of its’ wonderful shape and has great colour, it really stands out amongst all the other minis I have as it is quite chubby in appearance yet most of my mini’s are more slender and longer leafed, so this one is nice because it is just that little bit different to the others.

Thanks for the link to go into to see the Gympie varieties that are out there, I did not realise there are so many out there so I can’t wait to go in and have a good look at them all.

Nev I was having the exact same conversation with a friend at work about flowering a seedling for the first time; that you just don’t know what you are going to get for the first time, possibly something very unique in amongst all the other treasures you have grown. My friend collects Orchids and has about 300+, she also grows succulents and cacti and likes to grow cacti from seed also, hence why we got onto the topic of how wonderful it would be to discover something special in amongst the seeds you have grown. It is really nice because we both bring a different plant to pop on our desk each week, my desk sits a brom and her desk sits and orchid and it really gets’ us talking about our gardens and also gets much interest from work colleagues that have never grown anything successfully in their entire life. I have given out a few broms as gifts to some of them with care instructions and they are really enjoying giving it a go. Some of them are going to bring their broms back in when they pup so I can show them when and how to remove safely. They take pics on their phones to show me how their brom is progressing and I give them advice when they need it or if I see the brom is in the wrong spot in there garden.

Nev really liked the two different pics you posted of Neo ‘Bold Streak’ x Neo Mc Williamsii in different light conditions, I recently purchased a large pup of this as was very impressed with its’ gorgeous streak marks and good solid leaves that it has. Nev your grouped brom pics are so beautiful and colourful and I really like Pic 3 where you have your little broms all in a row at the front of the larger broms in what looks like their own separate shelving, what a great idea.


Anyway time to put the kettle on, I might check in later to see if anyone else has posted a thread.

Take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Neo Grace Good Girl
Pic 2 Neo Flirtation (close up)
Pic 3 Neo Flirtation
Pic 4 Some of the tree’s that shade our back yard
Pic 5 Nev my Neo Bold Streak’ x Neo Mc Williamsii is in this pic of various broms, it is a good size brom

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 23, 2012
2:39 AM

Post #9340344


Hello all, just a quick visit tonight. Ian, your Aechmea 'Fosters Favourite Favourite' looks more like A. 'Red Ribbons'. The one I have is variegated, and the white bits turn pink.
Did you grow your Neo. 'Cherry Fizz' from a pup? The reason I ask is that it has such narrow leaves, and I wondered if it had initially been grown in the shade, to get so big?
Trish, I would hate to be allergic to Mangoes! Thank goodness you've found a way around it. I absolutely love dehydrated mango, but its a bit exxy. Hubby and I have spoken of getting our own dehydrater one day.
The plans for your new garden sound like they will provide the shade you need in the future. And I had to laugh that you will be satisfied with your new broms till new years. Good luck with that!
Neo. 'Shamrock' is a gorgeous mini. I finally have the first pup on mine, but boy, has it been slow!
Wendy, I got my Till. 'Creation' from Peter, and it is like the foliage of T. lindenii, but these new ones are large and green, but have been grown in dry shade, so I will see what good light and regular water does to them. I have forgotten to post you the T. utriculata seeds, but will try to get them out, and ready to post on monday. Just remind me again on Sunday...if you remember.
I love the flowers of A. caudata, so long lasting. I have found the variegated ones are a bit reluctant to flower, but have had one or two on my clump. (sounds painful doesn't it?)
Nev, good on you for being the one to do the boring paper work I had to make up S.O.P's when doing a horticulture course, and I thought that by doing plant work, i could get away from the paper work...Uh-uh!
The igloo shade house is very basic and quite quick and cheap to build. I initially got the Idea from Tash, and have really run with it now. I was lucky enough to be given a 7 x 15 metre piece of cloth, all hemmed and with eyelets all around, so I got four x 7 metre lengths of rural, 2" poly pipe, 8 star pickets and a few lengths of 'top hat' which is the stuff they use in the ceiling to screw the plaster board to. I put the star pickets in a parallel line, spaced at 3 meters apart down the sides and 3.7 for the width, and leave about a metre of picket sticking out of the ground, and slide the ends of the poly over the top to form arches, then use the top hat as bracing down each side and at the top (just two screws into it where it touches the poly pipe), but you can strengthen it further by using more. Then pull the cloth over and secure with cable ties (in the electrical section at Bunnings. 300mm ones are best) and peg it around the bottom with tent pegs. The biggest cost is in the shade cloth, so always make the shade house to suit the size/width of the cloth, so you don't waste any. Its very quick and easy, and one person can do it on their own in a day or two. I add the weed mat just before I peg the bottom, so I can do both at once. I over lap the mat by 15-20cm, always having the uphill piece over the lower bit, so that any water or debris runs off the weed mat, and not into the join. I must say, this last batch of Coolaroo weed mat seems very flimsy, and I have my doubts that it will go the distance.
All your Neo photos are very colourful, Nev.
Shirley, I potted the succulents today, and they look so smart with all their tags. I hope you have received your parcel by now, as I sent it monday.
and now, I really must get some shut eye, as this didn't turn out to be a quick one at all! No pics tonight, but will try to get some tomorrow, between customers (assuming that I get any)
Night all!
Sue
perke_patch

November 23, 2012
4:21 AM

Post #9340361

pic 1 is seedlings of neo (princess grace x solar flare) F2. is that the correct way to write it Nev??? I love the red colour starting to appear on the trunks. they all seem to be getting this colouring now.
pic 2 is xneomea scorpio which didn't load last night. Johnny has rearanged the garden where I keep these and I realised today that it is growing in full sun now and handling it well. even more red on it now.
pic 3 is a seedling Johnny did years ago (not the shoe to give you a perspective of size). he collected seed from the variegated canistrum lindenii variegata not realising the variegation would not pass on. however these are starting to get to full size now. Pic 4 is closeup of the seedlings and check out what is finally happening. yehhhh it's flowering. wonder if it will be white like mum's.
pic 5 is a tray of seedlings that I didn't do labels for immediately but thought I'll do them tomorrow. unfortunatley when tomorrow came I couldn't remember what the name should have been. Nev are they possibly from you and can you suggest what they might be?

Oh Nev I must take a pic tomorrow for you of your ae calichroma x blanchetiana. I have 2 of them growingin the sun and the colour on them is now stunning. I love them. I'm going to pot the others up and put them in the sun too.

Sue I sent you a pm on fb but it might have been lost in fb cyperspace. I cleaned out the seeds in the fridge downstairs and found a packet of till utriculata seeds so I 've been able to put down another 2 trays and still have enough for 1 more tray later so if you want to hang onto the seed that's fine. I should have enough to grow now. thanks for the offer though. I asked if you wanted some other seed in the pm. if you find it let me know if you want the seed offered.

I didn't sleep well last night. I remembered the phone to set the alarm late and asked Johnny if he wanted me to go to get it but he said no he would wake up. So you guessed it we both kept waking up all night long checking the time. we should have set the alarm so we could sleep without worrying. anyway I'm struggling to stay awake now so I'll bid you all goodnight. Love the pics by the way.

Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 23, 2012
5:04 AM

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Hi everyone, another week over already, Xmas not too far off now.

Sue, the broms you sent are lovely, thank you so much, they are all potted up and looking good. I wasn’t able to get to the post office yesterday but picked them up this morning, gave them a dose of Nev’s raw sugar treatment and they are now very happy little broms, thanks again.

That haworthia I sent is one of my favourites, it will grow to about 6” wide and pup profusely. It goes quite black in the sun but I prefer it growing in a shady spot and nice and green and bigger too.

Gee, I wish we could get things done around here as quickly as you do, Sue. We seem to take ages to get things done, things like erecting a shadehouse takes us weeks and you get it done in a single day and looking amazing too. Good luck with your sale tomorrow.

Trish, you poor thing … allergic to fresh mango, how awful. Mango is my favourite food, I love this time of year. I have a few neos starting to pup now and heaps in flower. My neo seedlings are coming along really well and faster than I expected. My vriesea seed has germinated and they are growing but oh so slowly. Your neo Grace Good Girl is a nice one and glad to see you have neo Flirtation now.

Wendy, love the pics of your bigeneric broms. I only have the one, xniduregelia ‘something special’ which is pretty special. I don’t have a recent photo so must try to remember to take one tomorrow.

And it is really good to be back online again, I missed checking in on everyone on the forum each day and checking out all the beautiful broms.

Nev, I don’t think there will be a brom botanical garden where the dozer WAS working. He hasn’t returned as yet, waiting for the next heavy rains perhaps. It’s a long way from the house and the driveway gets rather steep further up. We wanted to build the level up a bit as it’s pretty low and there is a spring so it gets a bit boggy and difficult to mow ... we’ll see how it all works out, you never know !!!

Hi to Ian, Tash, Colleen, Bree, Jen, Jean, Karen and anyone else looking in. Just checking thru the brom photos and found an old one with xniduregelia 'something special' centre front ... it has lots more colour now and the plants are lots more crowded too despite moving lots of them to another area.

Catch up again tomorrow, bye for now

Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 23, 2012
12:51 PM

Post #9340631

Good morning everyone – Here we are again at the start of another weekend, just where has the week gone? It's just an observation, but it seems the older we get the quicker the days pass by which is something I don't really like; anyway it's no good complaining, as there's nothing I can do about it.

Trish – It's great to see you converting some of your work friends into bromeliad growers. I like to do something similar with brom seed and at present have a group of about six friends who are trying their hand at growing them. The really good bit is that their young children are interested as well which reminds me of the interest shown by young children in a small tabletop display on growing brom seed I do annually at our brom show. The children seem more interested in how it all works than what the end result is. The year before last there was a little girl and her younger brother and girls being girls, she was doing all the talking and asking all of the questions. It seemed she was doing a project at school on how a vegetable plant grows from seed and they all had different seeds to use in their growing project. She asked how plants were pollinated, and when I explained the process to her, her brother asked if bromeliad seed developed in a similar manner as the vegetable seed; before I could answer, the sister piped up and told him although all living things grow differently, they all come from seed in the beginning and went on to add, “you know just like when mummy and daddy shut the bedroom door”. Well “bloody hell”, you could have knocked me down with a feather, as this was the last thing I expected to hear from two little kids. It seems like kids today know much more about the “birds and the bees” at an early age than I ever did. Fortunately the Mother and Father who were looking at the plants on the end of the table came to the rescue before the conversation went any further

With the Neo ‘Bold Streak’ x Neo Mc Williamsii pic's I posted yesterday, if you look carefully you will see the red marking on the leaf tips of the first plant, are missing on the second plant; this again demonstrates how plants can be mis-identified just because the colours are different even when this is only due to the fact they are growing in different levels of light.

To explain the small shelves in the front of the bench of the third pic, let me say that a lot of my stuff is made from re-cycled materials. These small shelves came from the tip where I just happened to be at the time they were being dumped. I was told they were original mesh guards which fitted over fluorescent lights in a large industrial workshop to protect the tubes from being knocked and broken. The electricians found they were a nuisance as every time a tube had to be changed these had to be removed, so into the scrap bin they went and were sent to the tip. I told the bloke dumping them I thought I could use them, and instead of throwing them over the edge among the rubbish, he threw them into the back of my ute. I found they were exactly the right size to accommodate a 3” plastic seedling pot so that's just what I used them for and fixed them to the front of that bench.

That's a nice lot of pic's you've posted once again; I think the correct name of your first one is Neo 'Grace Goode Girl', and it was a S. Zaghini cross named in honour of Grace Goode, one of our outstanding Australian hybridisers. See: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=4687#4687

I have found that the colours in mini Neo. 'Flirtation' can also be enhanced when grown in bright light and as it's a very good “pupper”, it's interesting to grow them in a few areas of different light intensities just to see the difference. I love the area of bush beyond your fence and it certainly makes a lovely background for the brom. gardem and judging by the colour of your Neo ‘Bold Streak’ x Neo Mc Williamsii, you have found the preferred area of light in which it grows best.

Sue – I got your parcel yesterday, and once again thanks a lot, they will make for great reading.

I had also read somewhere that Neo Shamrock was a “slow grower”, but then all good things take time, don't they?

What are the best conditions under which to grow Till's 'Cyanea' and 'Creation'? My Till. 'Cyanea' seem pretty ordinary and nowhere as good as I would like them. But I did see a magnificent clump grown by one of our members, but it was mounted on a tree and as I don't have a suitable tree to try this on I'll have to find out the best way for pot culture.

Thanks for the info on the “tunnel house” construction. It seems so easy the way you explain it, however I supposed the council down here wouldn't allow it on a normal town block anyway, but I do have a couple of friends on properties and I'll pass on the instructions to them.

Finally, good luck with your sale today, I hope the weather's kind and everything goes well for you.

Wendy – I'm not sure how you should write that name. Is the Princess Grace F2, or the Solar Flare? Or is it a selfing of the (Princess Grace x Solar Flare) in which case I think that's how it should be written. I just always write down the “name formula”, as I'm not really up on the technicalities of nomenclature, Sue could probably give you a better answer as she is trained in horticulture, I'm just an old “back yard” bloke. The seedlings are showing a bit of promise colour wise though so I hope you post some pic's of the “finished products”.

Johnny's seedling has developed into a nice big plant but it looks to me to be an Edmundoa and not a Canistrum. The flower does look like it will be white at this early stage but then on the other hand it could turn out to be like the 'Rosea' flower as it matures .

Sorry, I can't offer you a name for your seedlings, but I'm just looking at the way the colour is developing in the centre of the leaf and wondering if you did any crosses with Neo 'Painted Delight'. Anyway, whatever they turn out to be, the moral of the story is, “don't try and commit names to memory, as you're sure to forget what they were”.

Shirley – You say that your Vriesea seed is growing slowly; I found that for me, they are one of the slowest seeds of the lot to grow, I have found that Guzmania seed is slower still, and I know that Tillandsia seed is the slowest of all so I don't even try that.

As for bi-generic brom's, I also have Niduregelia 'Something Special' as well as heaps of seedlings from some seed I got from an adult plant of it. I didn't do any crossing with it so it must have been insects and they obviously didn't listen to the “experts” when they say that seed from bi-generics is sterile and won't germinate. However there are quite a few which have now reached maturity and just looking at a lot of them, I'm almost certain that the other parent was a Neo. as there is a lot of similarity between them. Some are like the Niduregelia parent but the majority look like Noe's.

From what you say about the area where the dozer was working, it seems like it could be made into a great water feature, what do you reckon?

I must say I'm very envious of your extremely neat and tidy shade house, how do you keep it that tidy? I must ask, what sort of poly styrene boxes do you use for benches, do they come in that size or are they cut down? What ever the answer is, they look just perfect for the job, congratulations.

Finally just a “cheerio call” to those not posting and a “get well soon” wish to anyone on the sick list.

Today I'll finish with pic's of a few different Ae Nudicaulis which are all in flower now. Pic.1 is Ae. Nudicaulis 'Cuspidata', Pic 2 is Ae. Nudicaulis variegata, Pic. 3 is Ae. Nudicaulis 'Aequalis' (Costa Rica), Pic 4 is Ae Nudicaulis 'Mary Hyde' and Pic 5 is one not often seen down here and is Ae Nudicaulis 'Giant' so called because it's comes in at 39” in height.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 23, 2012
4:11 PM

Post #9340752

Shirley- woops look what i found hiding...1. Medusa, thanks very much for that!
Trish- theres heaps of Gympies, i also have 2. Gympie Fair. 3. im loving the look of Ring Leader and 4. Cheery Day(Thanks Nev). 5. yep Tiger was about to flower.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 23, 2012
4:20 PM

Post #9340763

1. I love Happy Thoughts atm. 2. a NOID flowering, not really a nice shape but its got very long leaves on the bottom/outside. 3. Pot o' Gold.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 24, 2012
3:08 AM

Post #9341060

Hi All!

Both Joe and I had a huge day in the garden today pruning shrubs, weeding and cleaned around the swimming pool area to make room for Yes Some More Broms as we want to inject more colour around the pool area as there is too much green everywhere, anyway I ended up pruning back a big group of Cardboard Cycads that had taken over a garden bed area around the pool and we are going to get a crow bar in there and split some of the Cardboard Cycad up a bit and give some of it away to a friend. I did have a couple of broms in this area but we could not see them because they were under the Cycad hidden from light, surprisingly they were in good condition and even had a bit of colour so I will keep them there. We also have a normal Cycad in the area that is growing well but is getting attacked by grey moths so we are looking at treating with something we downloaded from the internet but I can’t find where I put the piece of paper Nev lol. We also want to plant some more Lipstick Palms in pots instead of in the garden and have a few of these around the pool in big pots, hopefully we will get these in before Xmas so we can sit back and enjoy our revamped area over our time off together.

Shirley it is not that sad been allergic to fresh mango as frozen thawed out mango chilled tastes pretty good and I luv the stuff I dehydrate when I get the chance to do so. Shirley my Vr. Seedlings are also growing ever so slow but I can now see them without wearing my reading glasses which is great as this means they are definitely growing. Yes finally I got Neo Flirtation and I luv it because its shape is just a little bit different how it spirals beautifully and I luv when the morning sun hits it at a certain angle all the colours that shine through are so lovely. I often pick it up and take it over to Joe to show him how nice it looks first thing in the morning when we are sitting down having a cup of tea outside and I walk around the garden admiring all my broms whilst rubbing the sleep out of my eyes, can life get any better than that lol. Shirley I adore your pic of your gorgeous nursery that looks so organised, full of beautiful broms that look like they all have plenty of room to grow, you should be very proud of what a great job you are doing with them all flowering and pupping merrily.

Nev that’s great what you are going with your six friends getting them to experiment growing broms from seed, they could not have a better teacher than you. It is amazing how many people we know that have never bothered ever trying to grow anything in their life and they do not have any hobbies or interests whatsoever, I feel sad for them. They always look bored with life and seem amazed when they see what we get up to, so I try to get some of it to rub off on them just a bit before they leave our place by either teaching them something about gardening or getting them to interact with our pouches if they do not have any pets. They normally leave hear with a brom or two or some herbs or tomato plants and this pleases me greatly because just for a while you get to see a bit of life in their eyes because they have experienced something different, and then in a week or two it’s nice to get an unexpected call to say everything is still alive and growing and they are thinking of trying to grow some from seed or buy some seedlings the next time the go to the market, and furthermore that they went out and brought a brom book to read as they really liked the one’s we gave them, this really makes my day. Nev I cracked up laughing when you told the story about the boy and girl growing vegetable plants from seed and what the girls said, too funny. But that is how kids are now days; they get straight to the point, no mucking around lol. Great to hear my Neo Mc Williamsii looks to be in the perfect spot, it gets a good amount of light from morning until about 12noon. Nev thanks for explaining the small shelves you have built for your seedling broms, great idea and what a wonderful way to recycle rather than them getting back filled at the tip. Thanks for correcting me on my typo with Neo Grace Goode Girl and providing me with link and background, I really enjoy going into the links that you kindly provide, thank you so much. Great pics Nev, how beautiful are all those flowers, your broms look really nice and healthy, you do such a great job with them all as I am always impressed with the pics you post.

Bree WOW nice Gympies you have there, are they a favourite amongst your other mini’s? I like each and every one of the pics you posted. I just did not realise how many are out there until Nev told us, which is great because now I want to collect as many as I can of them.

Anyway time to put the kettle on and maybe watch a movie? I hardly ever sit still long enough to watch a movie and when I do I normally fall asleep lol. Joe and I are walking around a little big sore after our big day in the garden today, especially when you sit for a bit then have to get up and its’ like ouch, ouch, ouch until your muscles warm up lol, but we keep saying to one another what a great day we have had and are pleased with all that we accomplished today.

Tomorrow will be a bit slower as I move broms into the swimming pool garden bed area and organise them into some sort of nice mixed up order.

Until then take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Hi to everyone who may be looking in.

Trish

Pic 1 How pretty is this Orchid that has just flowered for Joe
Pic 2 Neo Shining Example
Pic 3 Nid Ruby Lee
Pic 4 Neo Grace Darling x Morris Henry Hobbs
Pic 5 Neo So Near

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 24, 2012
4:44 AM

Post #9341080

Hi everyone, we had big plans today but got a visit from family, which is always very welcome, but not very productive workwise … never mind, maybe tomorrow. Two granddaughters helped me to pick up all the sticks in the front yard and pile them into the trailer so one big job done anyway … and they work cheap !!!

Nev, I like the idea of a water feature and I can visualise how nice it might look with rocks and a little bridge but neither of us has that sort of energy or motivation anymore. We used to take on big projects but not now. I would love to have Sue’s or Trish’s get-up-and-go but these days, ours has got-up-and-went. The pic of the shadehouse is an older one, it’s not so tidy now and a lot more squeezy. As for the shelving, I have used 8kg broccoli polystyrene boxes and cut some down to graduate the shelf height.

Bree, I am pleased you found neo Medusa. Your Cheery Day and Happy Thoughts look very nice too.

Trish, what beautiful pics, just love your neos Shining Example, Grace Darling x Morris Henry Hobbs and So Near and while I am not really into orchids, that one is lovely. Take care with the Cardboard cycads, some big spines on the lower leaves.

Sue, hope your sale went well.

Hi to Wendy and Ian and other regulars.

Bye for now, Shirley

Pics are some of my pattern leaf vriesea hybrids … unnamed.


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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 24, 2012
2:50 PM

Post #9341435

Trish i dont have many minis only a couple, i dont like them. Love that Paphiopedilum orchid though. Very nice! I have heaps of them. Is that one called Kolopakingii?
Look at my Martin, its getting very pink. My Aechemea blanchetiana is starting to look nice and orange.
Nice vriesea's Shirley.



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ianperry

November 24, 2012
10:18 PM

Post #9341708

Hi all. Sunday and a bit more pruning and plant cleaning. i need to find time ,energy and materials so that I can put the cleaned area to good use. It needs protecting from falling palm fronds before I can put broms in there. I also have to reduce the Maleulecas from drowning the broms from their leaf fall. This is a part of my expansion programme.
It appears that Bunnings have another supplier, one that sticks labels on the pots naming the plants. I got a N Medusa from there today for their regular price of $9.98. I believe I did well.It is a good looking plant that I hope to be able to keep this way. The upper leaves are still upright, maybe from the way it was packaged, but maybe not. It is almost flowering. I also got a Nid of some sort. It seems a nice plant and it too is going to flower soon.

Sue I did not grow Ae Cherry fizz from pup but bought it a couple of months ago. It has a pup on it now and I will grow it in good light and see what happens. I have noticed a few plants growing profusely in the pool area. This area gets good light most of the day, I would burn in there in 1/2 hour even with 70% beige shadecloth. I wonder what will happen when summer gets here,Dec jan and Feb being stinking hot usually. It is also supposed to be our wet season but Mother has a way of keeping rain balanced.
I am confused about Red ribbons and Fosters favourite favourite. I have both names on 2 separate plants from different suppliers and was told that fosters favourite favourite is a sport of fosters favourite. I am still learning, so I had better check up on fcbs, bsi or bsr.I just don't know anymore.
Have a good one
ian
Pic 1 N Medusa
Pic 2 N heart of fire
Pic 3 N medusa showing flower
Pic 4 N mini fireball X persimmio Gee it is dark

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 25, 2012
2:23 AM

Post #9341751


Hello all. Boy, what a busy weekend!
My sale went well, and I had another coupe of customers drop in out of the blue today. I had packed most things away into the shade house, but it was still possible for them to have a good look, and they both went away with car boots loaded, big smiles, and a promise to be back! Good news for me!
In between times, I am still sorting broms into their groups and putting them into the new shade house if they are in good nick, or closer to the potting area if they need attention. I have a feeling I will be moving plants around quite a bit, for quite a while to come, but I am enjoying how its turning out, and am enjoying seeing plants I haven't had before, and massed displays of one plant, like 6 trays of N. 'Amazing Grace' looks pretty good! The rain of last week has filled the tanks, so I can water as much as I need to, which is helping to settle in the new broms.
Nev, Till. 'Creation' can be grown in the usual brom mix, (for me, half and half pine bark ad compost) and can be in shade or full sun ( saw one growing at Anniesams). In full sun it has a red tint to the foliage and is a smaller, stouter plant. I grow T. cyanea and T. lindenii in the usual brom mix, and have them in different areas around the yard. I don't have any trouble growing them, and haven't noticed any problem with intolerance to cold or problems with any position they find themselves in. I do like to keep them clean by removing the old mother as soon as she looks shabby though, but that's just personal preference.
Wendy, thank you for the kind offer of some seed, but I am a bit swamped right now, so must graciously decline your offer. But don't let that stop you making future offers, as sometimes I change my mind! I have plans for another shade house yet, just for newly potted stuff, then I can sort out a dedicated seedling area. I do have a few coming on, but they will be awhile before they need more space.
Shirley, I am glad to hear you got the plants ok. I would have liked to send you N. 'Close Of Day' to go with 'Break Of Day' but it didn't have a pup. I will keep my eye on it for in the future though. I have this amazing orange pot that I think will suit the Haworthia, bu it would be lost in there until it grows a bit more yet! Just love it! Your shade house pic looks great, and I am sure you have kept it looking just as nice. The Vrieseas are just devine. By the way, I haven't really got lots of energy, just a husband that keeps cracking the whip!
Trish, I feel the same way you do, about walking in the garden and admiring the plants. Hubby and I have seats in various places, and a swing by the dam to sit and contemplate what the next project might be, usually over a beer or wine, or sometimes a cuppa. I have had quite a few visitors to the garden this week, and they have such lovely things to say about it, which makes me very happy, but I am happy just with the enjoyment I feel from it.
I am envious that you can grow the Lipstick (sealing wax) palms! A bloke from Trinity beach sent me some germinated seed a few years ago, but try as I might, i couldn't keep them alive. Its just not warm enough here. I've just had to learn to live without them!
Ian, fosters favourite is a burgundy foliage, red ribbons is green with red vertical lines, and Fosters favourite, favourite is burgundy with variegations. Your N. 'Medusa' does have very upright leaves. Update us if it settles down, but it looks to me like it might have been caused by the packaging. Your fireball x persimmio is VERY dark. Is it just the photo, or is that the actual colour?
Bree, wash your mouth out! You don't like Minis? I don't understand whats not to like? Some of my customers were amazed when they found out N. 'Fireball' is full sized, and not a pup of N. 'Morris Henry Hobbs' heh heh. Your Neo pics are very colourful. well done.
I'll leave you with a pic of Tillandsia somnians, that sends pups out along the flower stalk, so if it is in trees, it can clamber through the branches. There are two plants in the picture. One mounted on the 'y' shaped branch, and another that is just out of the shot (bottom right).
Sue

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 25, 2012
3:20 AM

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hehe! sorry Sue! I dont know, i get very pickey with my obsessions. ha! I use to collect all orchids, now im gradually culling them down to mainly Paphiopedilum (why do i have to like the most expensive ones) ha! and with Broms i like the larger growing ones minis are just innoying to me, coming from someone with limited space it just doesnt make sense but i like bigger the better. ha!
1. Norman Bates and 2. my darkest Aechmea Orlandiana

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 25, 2012
5:01 AM

Post #9341793

Hello everyone, hope you all had a nice weekend and got to enjoy lots of bromming.

Bree, I tend to go for the bigger neos too, as you say, the bigger the better, as long as they are colourful. I also have a lot of minis and love the smaller ones especially those with wider leaves.

Ian, my neo Medusa has leaves that sort of spiral, a bit like neo Shelldance (see photo Nov 15). It is similar to yours and has always been that way.

Sue, glad to hear your sale went well. The plants you sent are looking really nice, thanks. I would love a neo Close of Day when you get a spare pup, and neo Amazing Grace too. Would you like a couple more of the haworthia limifolia to fill the orange pot.

Hi to Nev, Colleen, Wendy and everyone else. Catch up tomorrow.

Shirley

Pics are 1. Neo Berry Heaven 2. Neo Break of Day



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perke_patch

November 25, 2012
6:20 AM

Post #9341828

Hi everyone. Nev you were right that seedling coming into flower is from Edmundoi lindenii not canistrum. it's one we've had for ages and Johnny loves the variegation and big white flower it gets so when it had ripe seed he just had to grow it so long ago. that's the first one to get good size so was potted up into a good sized pot and put in top of a totem and just allowed to spread as far as it wanted to go hence the size. The others are still in smaller pots on a bench all together so we may have to pot them up and allow them to grow like a weed. I love those mottled leaves don't you???

pic 1 is a seedling we were given from Jack Konning of neo tangerine x scarlet charlotte. this one is a lot like tangerine but the one beside it which I didn't take pics of is more like medusa with the dimpling on the leaves. will have to look to see what is in the ancestry of those 2 plants. We are very pleased with some of the seedlings from this batch but I know that some of the others who shared those seedlings actually binned theirs and didn't grow them on. I don't think there is going to be anything worth naming and registering as they look too much like others already registered but they are very nice plants.

Pic 2 is another one of our painted delight F2 seedlings that I discovered today. I saw that amazing colour and lifted the plant down from the top of the totem to clean it up and check the label to see what it was. I was amazed when I discovered it to be a PD. It wasn't with the others and didn't even have a number so we've called it PD50 till I work out how high our numbers went. this one is certainly showing promise but is it different enough to warrant a name and registering???

Sue I love tillandsia somnians. I was given a stem with 3 pups still attached last year and when I got home Johnny immediately took it and climbed the ladder to nail it as high as possible in our tree. There were 3 pups when it was nailed up there but now we can only see 2 so who knows when and where the other one disappeared. I now have a couple more that I have bought so have some to harvest pups.
Nev I've not had any problems with growing till cyanea or lindenii. They are just in normal brom mix and some are hanging on eastern edge of shadehouse so do get some strong sunlight but handle it OK. I'm almost sick of potting up lindenii pups now though. When we woke up this morning we knew our grandson Hayden was already up but expected him to be watching TV so we were amazed when it wasn't even turned on. He had tried to log on to my computer though but couldn't remember the password. He was nowhere to be found inside so we looked downstairs and there he was potting up lindenii pups for me. Isn't he special for a 10yo???

Bree I love the orlandianas. we have a dark one called 'rainbow' which goes really dark in pure sunlight. over winter Johnny pushed the totem ring up and out from the shadecloth roof so it was peeping over the top in the pure winter sunlight all day and it became so dark red and eyecatching that it makes people stop to check it out. (see pic 3) Everyone wants one of those dark red broms they could see over the fence. Till then we had built up a collection of them but now we can't get enough pups potted and established before someone wants them. we do have I think 3 or 4 mothers producing pups now though so a ready supply.

Pic 4 is a pair of guzmania NOIDs that I recently bought. The first one I got was at the BSQ spring sale and paid $25 (from Nigel Thompson). then last week we saw the same plants at Big W (from Olive Branch) for $11.98. Put side by side we can't work out which was the big W one. I don't think I'll buy any more plants from these big sales... too dear. I'll just go to Olive's from now on. LOL

I'll finish with an update on Max. He had a huge nose bleed again yesterday morning just as Jen was picking me up to go check out a brom sale locally. Johnny was panicking as he does when it is Max and said to me not to be gone too long in case he couldn't get the bleed to stop and needed me. I think it was my hair spray or deoderant that set off his sneezes too. He only started as soon as I walked out to the verandah after getting ready to go. Anyway we spent all day just wiping up the dribbles from his nose after that initial bleed. He had a bad night with difficulty breathing through his nose. If only dogs could breath through their mouths while asleep he'd have no trouble but alas dogs always breath through their nose while sleeping. This morning he wasn't too bad till after Johnny gave him his medication. Within about 15minutes he wandered out from under the house staggering trying to make it up the back to tell dad he wasn't well. I heard his feet scraping on the pavers and watched him to see him staggering all over so called him to come to me which he did. I had to support him and call Johnny to come help. It was like he was overdosed and really out of it. Anyway we've decided not to give him the prednisone from now on. I think quality of life now is more important than quantity so we'll just let nature take it's course and when we decide he's had enough we'll get him put down. till then he can be just his normal self not doped up to slow the tumours growth. If we get 2 or 4 good weeks instead of 3 months then so be it but at least he'll be happy again.

Night for now. love all the nice pics.
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 25, 2012
10:40 PM

Post #9342646

Hi everyone – It was quite hot here yesterday but today it's overcast and much cooler and would be a great day for working in the garden, but unfortunately I have to go to a Brom. Society committee meeting which although is a necessary part of running the society, is annoying when it eats into your brom “Play Time”.

Breeindy – Once more you've posted a nice lot of pictures and I was especially attracted to your first pic (Neo. 'Happy Thoughts') in the second batch. I think it's a beautiful and quite unusual brom., and very similar to one I have which is simply named Neo. 'Mulford Foster Hybrid'. Thinking I had at last found the correct name for mine I went to the BCR to double check it and unfortunately the Neo 'Happy Thoughts' which is registered is nothing like either of our plants. If anything it looks more like your NOID in the next picture. So it looks like both of our plants were wrongly named when we bought them. Have a look at http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=4824#4824 and tell me what you think.

Trish – If you think an allergy to Mango is bad, spare a thought for me as I'm allergic to Lobster, Crab and Prawns!

It's very true when you say, “It is amazing how many people we know that have never bothered ever trying to grow anything in their life”, I started growing things from seed when I was very young as Dad had a “veggie” garden and I learned all the tricks from him. What amazed me was what I saw on one of the Jamie Oliver shows when he was visiting schools in England and asking kids about “veggies”; many didn't even know what these different veggies on display were, and when asked to name some veggies, about the only one they could relate to was potatoes and even then one young kid argued that they weren't potatoes, they were called “chips”! I must add that these kids came from city schools and not from the country.

Great pic's once again, and hubby's Paph. is beautiful and from what Shirley says is the name, it sounds like a species, is this true? Please don't get me started on orchids again though as it's taken me years to change my addiction from orchids to brom's which I can manage better.

Shirley – It seems you're like me as my “get up and go” was gone years ago. However if I can't talk you into a big brom garden, how about a nice big Frog Pond” with some nice water plants and Yabbies. You could have the best of both worlds, you could enjoy the frogs and the plants while fishing for Yabbies to eat.

You have a nice collection of patterned leaf Vriesea hybrids there, and I really love the foliage colour of the “Blanchies”, what a “statement” they'll make as feature plants in the garden. (The pitcher plants in the background look great also) and your little Break of Day is a great little plant and a firm favouite of mine also.

Ian – It's great that “your Bunnings” has a supplier who puts the names of brom's on the pot, all we ever see down here is the same old generic name of “Bromeliad” no matter if it's a Neoregelia, Guzmania, Aechmea or Vriesea. These suppliers really “P... me off” and are just adding to the millions of NOIDS already in circulation. It's even more annoying when you think that the majority of these plants are mass produced using tissue culture and it would be so easy to provide the correct name. It's hard to say who is to blame, is it the original grower of the “meristems”, or the growers here in Australia who import most of these plants in flasks? I would think it's the growers who import these flasks who are at fault, because what I have seen and know about the lab's that do this sort of work, correct labelling is vital and meticulously carried out. A lot of the growers who buy these flasks are just after a “quick quid” and really couldn't care if these plants are named or not as they know the flowers will sell the plants for them anyway, whether they are named or not.

As for the “bent” foliage on you Neo 'Medusa', if your plant originally came as a pup from a plant, the crooked leaves may be a result of packaging. If on the other hand it was a tissue cultured plant, it could be a deformity which is sometimes (not always) caused by the tissue culturing process.

To clear up your dilemma about Ae. 'Fosters Favourite Favourite' and 'Red Ribbons', they are both sports (albeit two different ones) of Ae Foster's Favourite which came from a crossing of Ae. Racinae x Ae. Victroriana Discolor. I'll take some quick pic's of each which I will post so you can see the difference more clearly .

Sue – Glad to hear your sale went well. Did you have a chap from up that way somewhere called Bruce visit? I told him about your sale and he said he has been meaning to phone and arrange a visit to see your collection but as yet hasn't managed it. He had some other places to go on Sat. and told me he would try and fit your sale in on the way, so I hope he did and you've now made another “brom mate” as he's a nice bloke.

Thanks for the growing tips on the Till. 'Creation' and 'Cyanea' types, I think I have the light requirements right, but as I'm using the same open mix I use for my other brom's maybe it's not holding enough water, so I'll add a bit of potting mix and see how that goes.

I was interested to see you mention Neo 'Close of Day' (another of Grace Goode's hybrids). I don't have that one either so after you fill Shirley's order and if you get another spare pup, I'd like you to save it for me and we can swap for something you want if that's OK. I also have another little one called 'Cheery Day' (see Bree's first lot of pic's 23rd). I can't see it as being registered but it is similar to some of the others from that grex so possibly one that a grower has just given a pet name. I have to stop now and go to this meeting and I'll finish the rest of this when I come home this “arvo”.

Well, I'm home again after we solved the “problems of the world” at our meeting, so now to finish what I started this morning.

I like where you say, “Hubby and I have seats in various places”, I too have seats in various places, not because I have a large property, but because I'm getting too bloody old and need to sit down for a spell occasionally!

Your pic. of Till 'Somnians' has the same method of growth as Till 'Secunda' the only difference being that the Secunda can grow quite large (See Pic 1) It too produces pups along the inflorescence where the flowers were (See Pic 2)

Wendy – Your Neo. 'Painted Delight' seedling certainly looks different; I think if it was mine I'd be waiting to see what the first pup looks like as in my experience to date, they have always been an improvement on the original plant.

About Max; it may just be that the dosage is too strong for him, I'd ring the vet and see if it's OK to reduce the dosage rather than cut it out altogether, at least he could then still get some benefit from it.

Gee I could do with a couple of grandsons like Hayden around here, I'm sure I could find plenty of potting for them to do, good on you for training him correctly. Finally I have to agree with you; those two “Guzzies” do look very similar. I personally think that if a grower is selling you a NOID he could at least have a name for it for $25, even if it's just a formula name, or even half a formula name eg. Guz. Hilda x ?. I'm probably wrong, but I get an “inkling” there's something bi-generic about them, but with no name I guess we'll never know.

Pic 1 is Tillandsia Secunda growing in the centre of a rather large cactus owned by one of our society members. Pic 2 is a file pic showing just how the pups are formed on this plant. The next pic's are for Ian and I apologise for the state of the plants as I took the pic's in a hurry this morning and didn't have time to clean up them up beforehand. Pic. 3 is Ae. 'Foster's Favourite Favourite', Pic 4 is Ae. 'Red Ribbons' and Pic 5 shows them side by side to make it easier to identify the differences.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

November 26, 2012
2:25 AM

Post #9342669

Hi all, just another hot dry day. I am still learning and now know that I have not got Ae fosters favourite favourite. I have red ribbon and fosters favourite. None of my plants have a varigated red/burgundy leaf.
I went back to Bunnings to check out other plants and could only find Medusa from that same supplier. It is popular there as there are now none left, I got the remaining 3 . 2 of them have pups on them , small but they are there. They also had a single stake driven through the leaves to support them . Most growers up here anyway that use stakes use 3 outside the stem but not damaging the leaves. I guess what works works and in reality the business of growing plants for sale is about money. The bigger companys seem more hungry for our dollar.
Nev i can relate to growing veggies when I was 7 years old, I even went to a city and saw hedges for the first time and came home and trimmed the carrots.Not the right thing to do but they looked so neat and tidy.
Sue Fireball X persimio is very dark purple almost black.
Have a good one
Ian
pic 1 Nid Noid
pic 2 N Lavender lovely
Pic 3 Ae Noid. Flowers just finishing and I have taken some seed just for fun.
Pic 4 Just to annoy Bree. N mini Dinkum
Pic 5 N mini Wee willy

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 26, 2012
3:02 AM

Post #9342678

Nev- i was just assuming my Happy Thoughts would go redder and look like the pic in the register with age as its still young yet. Have to wait and see. Whats yours look like?
I hate Mango, prawn, lobster and crab so it wouldnt bother me. hehe! Allergies are pretty serious though, i shouldnt be joking around. Sorry!
Loving Ians Medusa and Wendys that looks like Medusa. Wendy i have about 4 Orlandianas and there all different coloured. I love them also.
Ha Ha Ian i ike seeing mini pics, you cant tell that there mini. hehe! Theres plenty of times ive seen a pic and thought 'oh thats awsome' only to find out its a mini and thought nah! I do have a few though.
1. Royal Flush pup, goes darker with age. 2. Zulu pup. 3. Finally got Jewellery Shop.

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perke_patch

November 26, 2012
3:07 AM

Post #9342679

Hi everyone.
Nev after seeing your pics I can't wait for my secunda to flower so I can get some pups like those you showed. The guy I got a secunda from had them high in a tree but he had them also growing on the ground under the tree. he said they are perfect growing in a tree because the pups will often fall off and land down below so you can harvest and sell them. enough stay in the tree to spread. Nev are your red ribbons growing in the sun? mine aren't nearly that yellow.

Ian I love neo lavender lovely. it's one of my favourites. love those nice purple broms. there's some very nice minis appearing on here lately. I have a few of them but so many I don't have like aura although I did think it was domino till I read the blurb.

Nev the first 2 pics are for you. Earlier this year I discovered a stripey pup on a plain green flowering vrisea. I thought the stripes would disappear but yesterday I discovered it again and stripes are still very evident. I know when I potted the 2 pups I kept them and mum together in a single tray and always meant to do labels for the pups but never got around to it. now mum is gone ... probably down the mums area down back and I'm not sure which one is the other pup so no records. anyway I will flower this one and see what pups are produced from her. So lesson learned ... always take time to do labels because things happen and memories are not reliable.

Haven't got anything more to share at present so I'll be off to take a leaf out of Trish's book and go make a cuppa now.

Night
Wendy

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 26, 2012
11:05 AM

Post #9342960

Good morning
Bree, your Aechmea orlandiana has alot of red, eh? They are such an attractive plant. I must admit, I have trouble parting with them, so keep them hidden around sale days.
Shirley and Nev, your names are down for a Neo. 'Close Of Day' when it pups. It doesn't seem to be quite as prolific as N. 'Break Of day' as when I was doing a clean up in the garden, I removed the daggy old mum, and only two mature pups were on it, so once they flower, there should be a few on the way.
Wendy, I love that N. 'Painted Delight ' seedling. Its quite unusual. I am interested to see what it does at flowering, and would love a pup when they become available. You should probably start a book (if you haven't already) of who wants what.
Ian, I got a good laugh from your carrot hedge story. Thanks for that! Pic one looks more like a Neo than a nidularium.
Nev, if you mean Bruce D from Forster, then no, he didn't turn up here, but Forster is quite away from here. Maybe he had too many other things to do. I know when we are going somewhere, there is never enough time to do all we want.
What, exactly, is the trouble with your Tilandsia cyanea types? They do seem to need good soil mix, and I bought some little terracotta pots in Big W, some time back, with a couple of little Tills mounted in them with sphagnum moss, with instructions to keep them moist. I am sure they areTill. cyanea, and found they did not really like the pots, so removed one and potted it up. I've since lost it, (didn't label it as being different) but suspect it is now in amongst the other tillandsia cyaneas in pots, so think my suspicions are confirmed, unless I get some completely different flower. The other one, still in the terracotta pot, has hardly grown, but it has adapted to not being kept moist all the time, which makes its care a little less demanding.
I have T. secunda also, and found it to be a bit slow, then something had a good chew on the middle leaves, but it is starting to look well now. I bought two at the same time, and gave one to my neighbour, and hers is now twice the size of mine, and thriving on neglect, in the full sun by her pool! I think I will have to put mine in a similar area and ignore it!
Anyway, I may have limited internet for the next week or so, but will endeavor to get here once a day, as has been my norm, but don't panic if I don't make it!
photo one is a few plants under the golden canes
photo two? A few more
Photo three, just afew more
Photo four, not much room left
Alcantarea brasiliana, almost ready to bloom.
Sue



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 26, 2012
12:31 PM

Post #9343018

Hi everyone – It only seems like a couple of hours ago that I was typing my previous post for DG; anyway here goes again. I didn't get to spend any time in the yard yesterday so nothing to report from that area so maybe tomorrow.

Ian – Well at least you got your Red Ribbons – Foster's Favourite Favourite dilemma sorted out. I don't think I have a spare pup of the “FFF” as I find it a very slow grower, however if I can find one I'll sent it up to you. I like the colours of the plant, but don't particularly like the thin droopy leaves (probably caused by growing it in low light) but I find if I grow it in higher light I get stiffer leaves but lose the colour, so what's a bloke to do?

I can honestly say that I have never pruned carrots to try and make a hedge, wow the things we did as kids!

Did the other Medusa plants you bought have the same type of twisted leaves? As for the stake through the leaf, well I've never seen that before, obviously done by a “Non-Bromeliad Lover” - (probably a Bunnings' employee). It's interesting that one of the the main attractions of Neo. Medusa is the fact that it is spineless; however if you look at the pic of the registered plant on the BCR (and enlarge part of it) it appears that the leaves do have spines??????? So my question was this; is the one we grow here in Australia the true Medusa, another plant altogether, or possibly a sport from the original plant that still carries the original name? 

So I decided to dig a bit deeper and came up with some very interesting info., part of which says that there are two different forms of Neo. Medusa: “one by Hendrix which has spines and one sold by Deroose that does not have spines”.

As the bloke on the TV commercial says, “but wait there's more” and there is; and even a possible answer to the bent leaves on the Medusa plant you posted a pic of, but to find out the whole story you'll have to go to: http://fcbs.org/butcher/What_is_a_mule.htm and look at the article titled 'Uncle Derek Says' – What is a Mule?

Finally I don't think your pic of a Nid. NOID is a Nidularium, it looks more like a Neoregelia to me, so how about some pic's of the flowers when they bloom and then we'll know for sure.

Breeindy – My plant looks just like the one in your first pic of the second group of pic's you posted on 23rd. It's just comming into flower now and there's no sign of any colour change in the centre and certainly looks nothing like the “Happy Thoughts” pictured on the BCR:http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&i...

Wendy – That's an interesting plant you show in your pic's, you need to keep growing it and see if you can develop those striations even further. By the way, make sure you always carry name tags and a pen in your pocket at all times and then you can write out any required name tags at any time.

Sue – The bloke I was referring to is Bruce C and he's only moved up to your area about three years ago and bought a property out of town a bit and started with his brom's all over again. He is on Face Book and you've probably come across him on there.

The problem with my Cyanea is this, they seem to grow OK and produce new leaves and pups, but as new leaves grow, almost as many die off and there are heaps of dead leaf tips. It isn't a “dud” clone because the bloke I got it from originally grew it beautifully so it's something I'm not doing right.

By the looks of your pic's, you will need to start that new shade house sooner rather than later, what's Bill doing next weekend?

All the best, Nev.

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 27, 2012
3:19 AM

Post #9343569

Hi everyone, very hot here today and muggy too. We managed to do a few things around the garden and some much needed watering.

Wendy, I guess your Edmundoa Lindenii is growing in very bright light if it’s on top of a totem. I was under the impression it needed fairly heavy shade. I originally had mine in bright light but the leaves went all floppy so I moved in into a shady spot. Nev, I think I read somewhere that Edmundoa Lindenii was formerly called Canistrum Lindenii.

Love your neo Painted delight seedling in pic 2, Wendy. If you have a book of ‘who wants what’, please put me down for one of its’ pups after Sue. The neo Manoa Beauty seed you gave me has germinated and growing very well ... I will have to take a photo. And sorry to hear that Max has had another nose bleed, hope he is feeling a bit better now.

Ian, love your mini neo Dinkum and neo Lavender Lovely

Sue, lovely pics of your gardens as always and as Nev said, not much room left in your new shadehouse. I see you have switched from light shadecloth to dark (is it black) … can I ask why? The neo Cherry Jam seed you sent has germinated and is looking good too.

Bree, so many nice broms.

Just the 1 pic, neo Hidden Dragon, a recent acquisition. Looks a little like neo Camelot, I think.

Bye for now,

Shirley

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perke_patch

November 27, 2012
4:06 AM

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Hi again. seems like no time since I was saying that last night. I'll start off with getting something off my chest. I need to tell someone and am not prepared to put it out there on fb so here goes.

MAX HAS CANCER. the vet school phoned today. when we refused to put Max through another biopsy they retested the ones they did last time. they made up some new slides and this time they came back positive for C. The way he's been last 3 days I think he'll be lucky to see 2 weeks let alone 4 more to Christmas. at 3am this morning I was up mopping floors. I got up to go to the kitchen and nearly slipped over on his spew in the lounge. I just finished cleaning that up and went to get he mop and discovered another pile in front of back door. So after mopping those areas once with pine-o-clean then refilling the bucket and washing the mop for a second coat I decided to do whole house (except bedrooms). Johnny slept through the whole thing.

Nev when I have my potting apron on I always have pens, pencils, labels, camera, notepad and everything else I could possible need at hand. It's the times I forget to put the apron on that I get stuck. Some days I even walk around with a labelling pen stuck down my bra. I've even been known to walk around bunnings or the shops with it protruding from the front of my top. don't know what people think about that. one day bunnings staff will ask if I've paid for it as I use the ones from there now. I just have to accept that my memory is not what it used to be and remember to never rely on remembering. hahahaha. The pen on hand is useful to redo lables that are fading before they disappear completely, so I try to remember to have a pen in my bra at all times.

I'm sitting here trying to watch the soaps but drifting off so I'll finish up for now and get an early night. Pic is billbergia be-bop I discovered today with a lovely orange infloresence.

Wendy



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 27, 2012
12:14 PM

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Where has everyone gone? It looks like just the three of us today so I'll have to think of something to write as I usually just do “add-ons” to what others write or the questions they ask and hopefully in amongst it all, I am able to pass on some info that's useful.

Firstly a Cherrio Call to all who couldn't make it today, and to any of you on the sick list, Get Well Soon and I hope you're back posting again in the near future.

Shirley – What you say about a name change from Canistrum Lindenii to Edmundoa Lindenii has now jogged my memory and I too remember reading it somewhere. In fact there was a list containing many of the name changes which was on the web a few years back; I'm sure I would have down loaded it, but I can't remember what it was called or where I saw it. Unfortunately my computer files are about as good as my bromeliad files (all over the place) so I guess I'll have to do a “painstaking search” through all of the computer files to find it. When I do I'll pass on where it's to be found so everyone has access if they want it.

I like your plant of Neo. 'Hidden Dragon'; as you say, it is quite similar to Neo. 'Camelot' and I thought it may have been from the same grex, however when I went looking on the BCR it wasn't registered; so unfortunately, I guess we'll never know if it's from the same grex or not.

Wendy – Sorry to hear that Max has had an “off night”. It is just possible you know that this has nothing to do with the cancer, and may just be a stomach bug he's picked up in his weakened state.

Well it looks like you have everything in place to write out name tags as required and all you need to do now is remember to write them. I like your idea of a “potting apron” containing all the necessary bits and pieces, I could probably make good use of one myself; I can just see it, a colourful apron emblazoned with nice pictures of brom's, but then I would look like a bit of a “goose” at my age, so maybe not.

Fortunately I don't have the problem of names fading on name tags. Maybe the intensity of the sun isn't as great down here as it is up there, but then maybe it's because I don't use plastic tags any more, as I gave them up a few years back when the Bower Birds started stealing them. I just use re-cycled aluminium Venetian Blind slats which I cut to the same shape as a name tag. I write on them with a “fine”, permanent Overhead Projection Slide marker and have never had any trouble with names fading. I usually replace them after three or four years as by this time they are getting a bit “grubby” looking.

Yesterday while looking through my small seedlings to see what needed potting I found a container full of Billbergia seedlings from seed I had once bought from Allan Ladd. I had previously thought they were plants of Billbergia 'Rosea' and as I have three large flowering plants well as quite a few large seedlings, I had intended to give them to the first interested person who saw them. When I looked more closely at the name on the label I found they were plants from seed I thought hadn't germinated.

It's quite a “long winded” cross formula and what will come from it remains to be seen, but the pedigree is there so here's hoping. The cross is [(Billbergia Hallelujah x Billbergis Domingos Martins) x Billbergia Domingos Martins] x Billbergia Domingos Martins. The only trouble is that I'll have to make my name tags twice as big to fit the name on or come up with an abbreviated code.

While on the topic of seed, I see where Shirley says you gave her some Neo 'Manoa Beauty' seed; yesterday I also found a container of small Neo 'Manoa Beauty' seedlings but know it wasn't my seed and couldn't think where it came from, was it you who possibly sent me some?

That's about it for today, sorry there's no pic's, but I haven't taken any new ones yet and as it was pouring rain last night and is still drizzling today, I doubt if I'll get any today either, so I'll drop in again tomorrow.

All the best, Nev.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 28, 2012
12:37 AM

Post #9344421

Hi Nice Pics everyone!

Just a quick look in today as having busy hectic week, looking forward to Friday coming around.

Looking forward to chatting with you all on the weekend, plus I need to take some more brom pics.

Wendy, sorry to hear about Max's diagnosis, wish it was not the case and that we could all make it go away and make him better.

Happy Gardening!

Trish
perke_patch

November 28, 2012
4:08 AM

Post #9344445

Hi all. ... well at least Nev and Trish. thanks for your comments re Max. Nev we are positive the off days were because of the drugs and a reaction to them or the huge dose he was on. Today with him only having 5mg of steroids for last couple days instead of 20mg we were told to give him... well today he was his normal happy self. Johnny took him for a swim this morning and he followed us around all day. he was barking at sirens and just a normal happy dog. That's how we want the rest of his life to be and when it's no longer like that we'll make the decision to end it for him. Not looking forward to living with Johnny when that happens. I know he is going to be strange for a while. I know that's a funny way of putting it but ...

I think we got a bit high last night. The young kid living next door with his grandma had some mates around. They were all sitting out the back smoking and talking. Johnny came in and asked me if I could smell anything. As soon as I walked out into the hall I could smell it too. very sickly sweet and as I got closer to the spare room where Emily sleeps the whole room was reeking with the smell. I think if she had been sleeping in there she would have been as high as a kite. And of course there was that one loud female voice that drove us crazy till they either flaked out or left. a couple of them walked away towards he park last night. But we paid them back this morning. We went downstairs early and started talking right beside the fence level with his bedroom. We decided to chiop down all the browned off cane fronds and seed pods. Johnny was going to mow but decided to leave it for early tomorrow morning just in case they carried on tonight but with it raining I don't think anyone will be sitting outside.

we did so much potting today. Johnny has installed a sprinkler system in the old shadehouse up the back and we have 9 rows of barbed wire filled with mini neos, till. lindenii, and other smaller plants so the sprinklers will help to keep them all watered and enough of the spray is even getting dow to the shelves below. So in the cleanup we discovered overflowing pots that had to be cleaned up and split up. I finally finished potting al lthe lindenii plants today so they could be hung up in there. In the clean up we discovered quite a few of the cansitrums flowering so they can go out next week for our sale the on 8-9th.

Nev I don't think I sent you any seeds of manoa beauty. the ones I gave Shirley was when she was here and I was trying to show her how to collect seeds from neos. the manoa beauty was the only one we were able to find seeds in. I've been thinking of all the missing mates who might be suffering with back pain like Colleen, Sue, you Nev and any others with back problems. I'v been sitting at the table often this week potting up seedlings and my back is killing me up nearer the shoulders. So Colleen I really hope you are on the mend now. we've missed hearing from you. It's been a while.

I know Jen has been reading posts but not posting any. she must have read about Max last night because she contacted me tonight to ask how he is. So lucky to have such a good friend willing to call round to check him when we have to be somewhere. She's a great aunty to our Max.

Tomorrow night I'll have some new pics to post as there are a couple of new epis with flowers developing. We noticed them this morning. I took the camera down this afternoon thinking one of them would have opened up today but not yet. It will be opened in the morning though if the rain doesn't damage it. Looks like it will be a very dark red. Pics tomorrow to share with you all.
Off to bed now. talk again tomorrow night. Pic is our blood lily flowering again. this is the most we've ever had. each year we say we will split it up but we were told when you disturb the bulbs they sulk for a year and will not flower so we didn't do it again.

Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 28, 2012
5:32 AM

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Hi everyone, another hot and muggy, energy sapping day here.

Wendy, sorry to hear Max has cancer but pleased to hear he is back to his old self today.

Nev, I can highly recommend Wendy’s aprons and I think you would look good in one. Wendy gave me one last time we were over there and they are brilliant. All I have to do is remember to put it on when I am potting.

Trish, the weekend is not far away now … we are over the hump, so to speak.

Hello to everyone else looking in, and a get well wish to anyone feeling a bit out of sorts.

Is anyone able to ID the plant in the attached photo, please.

Till tomorrow,

Shirley




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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 28, 2012
12:44 PM

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Good morning everyone, nice to see at least three of our members are posting. I guess the rest are either sick, busy building (Sue), or doing their Christmas shopping. Anyhow, “G'day” to everyone and a “Get Well Soon” to anyone on the sick list.

Trish – I too will be glad when the weekend comes around so we can read what you've been up to during the week and of course look at some more of your beautiful pic's.

Wendy – Good to see you both enjoying life with Max being happy and doing things he always did.

The effects of that passive drug smoking could have been devastating if it had occurred later in the night after you all had gone to bed and Emily had been sleeping in that room with the window open. It makes you wonder what the country's coming to with everything you seem to read now having a connection in some way with drugs or the criminal activity as a by-products of people using them; where will it all end? I don't think I could have restrained myself if it had been my house, and I would have had the mower out as soon as it was legal to do so and made sure it was revved up as high as possible; I can just imagine the look on their faces, a bit like a startled rabbits.

I've heard of other growers using the barbed wire to hang their plants from but often thought that it would sag too much and look unattractive. Do you find this is the case? Could you take some pic's to show us all how you have used your barbed wire as I know I'm always interested in new ideas and I'm sure others are as well.

You say you didn't send me the Neo. 'Manoa Beauty' seeds and I can't remember where I got them from so I guess I'm just as guilty as you for not writing things down. I really do need to accept that as I'm getting older so is my memory and it isn't as efficient as it once was, so better record keeping required from me in the future.

As for your back aching from sitting and doing a lot of potting, fortunately it doesn't effect me that way; in fact I can happily sit all day and pot plants with no back pain whatsoever, the trouble starts when I go to stand up and everything from the waist down aches because all the lower limb muscles have tightened up and I have to gradually stretch them to get things moving again.

I really do like your “Blood Lily”, it's very unusual and I've never seen one of them before. Do you think they would grow down here where it's colder and if so, put my name down for a bulb when you eventually get around to dividing it up please.

Shirley – Sorry I can't help with an ID for your Neo. It's obviously still just a pup, so perhaps if you post a pic when it matures, things may look a lot different. There are thousands of these variegated Neo NOIDS around but this one looks a bit better than the average with very strong albo-marginated markings. If those faint pink lines on a couple of the leaves eventually grow out, you will have a very attractive plant.

I'm “scraping the bottom of the barrel” looking for new pic's to finish up with so here's a few I took yesterday. Pic 1 is of another Billbergia 'Rosea' I found when re-arranging a section of the garden yesterday. I found it just in time as the flowers were dragging on the mulch. If only I had a nice tree to mount these plants on so the flowers could be shown to advantage a they really are quite spectacular. Pic's 2,3 and 4 are of another seedling which came from what was thought to be a selfing of Ae Nudicaulis but as you can see by the flower shape, there is obviously some Ae. Gamosepala in there somewhere. What attracted me was the colour, the camera didn't capture it accurately but it is a very pale grey and almost white. Finally, Pic 5 which is “Jacko” our feathered friend who is in for 3.00pm dinner.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

November 29, 2012
1:33 AM

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Hi all. Another hot day here. I saw where there had been rain last night, not much but enough to leave puddles on the road as I went to work. It had probibly dried out by 7.00am.
Just had to have a play with my seedlings and potted up some Bil schemperiana and Pink patches.They were too high for take away containers. Now they are in 1 1/2" trays with 12segments. They are on trays and I have bottom watered them. I will continue to bottom water them for quite some time.
I moved some plants oput of quarrantine today into a new area, still isolated but with more light than in quarrantine but not direct sun i hope. I will have to check this area out more thoroughly this weekend.
I like Mr Jakaburra funny little flathead, but that is just his hairstyle.
I like the Blood lilly, here we call them pom pom flower or ball of fire. I have a few spare here now.
It is good to hear that Max is as well as can be expected, may you all enjoy your time together.
Nev my N medusa from the information you have given me is from the Deroose breed. The leaves have no spines at all.
Have a good one.
ian
Pic 1 Ae blanchettia varigated
Pic 2 Ae Sphaeroglossa sitting in it's pity pot
Pic 3 Ae Blanchettia yellow
Pic 4 Ae Caesari
Pic 5 Ae fillicaulis, i wish it would flower.

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perke_patch

November 29, 2012
5:15 AM

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HI everyone.
Another good day with Max today although he did have some blood discharge from both sides whenever he sneezed. I have to remember not to use hairspray, deoderant or perfume near Max as well as Johnny now. Doesn't matter as much with Johnny but certainly with Max it does as it causes sneezing which causes blood discharge. Sick of washing walls and floors and furniture whenever he sneezes ... oh and his face.

We had the little ones here today and they had a swim in Max's bath shell. He kept an eye on them but didn't try to hop in with them. he did follow Rylee around though for her food. she shared chocolate muffin and cheese stick with him. When the birds came in for their food she also fed Max their mince as well as some for our baby magpies we've christened heckle and jeckle. can't tell which is which but they make us laugh at their antic. today they were on the shadecloth roof down the back collecting sticks, running to the edge and dropping them down for Johnny. He was raking out the side aisle after having a clean up in there yesterday. Wonder if they actually know what they are doing and therefore helping us. We can go down the park and watch them attacking other people but they never attack us so maybe they really are smart. Yesterday Johnny was talking to someone on the phone sitting on the front verandah. He pointed to tell me heckle and jeckle were on the powerlines over the road and would be in for tea soon. I went and got their bag of mince and came back onto the verandah and called out to them. The immediately flew over to the railing. I think they are clever.

Ian, maybe if you have spare blood lily or pom pom lily you might have one to share with Nev. Not sure when Johnny will split up out pot of them. Nev I think we grew ours for a few years before we got a flower but ever since it flowers every year and we are getting more and more flowers each year as the bulbs multiply and mature. this one has the flowers first then the leaves come later but we also have an evergreen one where the leaves are there all the time and the pompom appears later. This one flowers November/December and evergreen flowers December/January or even February. We've never had an evergreen one flower yet. With this one in the pic we stick the pot down the back on the mothers shelf and ignore it till we see the little shoots coming up. About 2 weeks ago when I saw that I carried the pot out the front and put it under the front stairs for everyone to admire. The evergreen one has stayed in the display area around the side all over winter with one single leaf growing bigger and bigger. Hopefully it is growing new bulbs under the soil though and another leaf will appear soon. I'll have to check it out tomorrow and take a pic to compare.

Nev if you have a spare pup of billbergia rosea we have a few trees we could mount a small pup on and watch it grow. I don't think we have that one. We do have a pendular one called epperie which has a lovely pink pendulous flower. we have it in a windowbox type planter nailed to the side fence so we were able to admire the flower against the white background of the fence and planter box. it is cold sensitive though so we had to keep it high where it could get some sunlight through the shadecloth over winter. it still came through with some spots though but looks nice now. I also like the look of your nudicaulis plants grown from seed. Which reminds me I did take updated pics of those ae calichroma x blanchetiana seedlings you sent me. They are growing in morning sunshine and the colour coming out in them is so dark so I've moved some of the others to where they can get some sunshine as they were more green than these. unfortunately the camera has not captured the darkness on the trunk of the plant. I even took them under the house and took pics in front of the wall to reflect the colour which brought it up darker than any other shots. wish you could see them in the flesh Nev. Truly stunning colour. not sure if you got this type of colour in them down your way. Shirley did I give you one of them???? I think I have about 6 or 7 left here and my brother and Johnny's sister have one each.

We have seed going everywhere at the moment from tillandsia scheidiana so instead of wasting it I used 4 of these small coconut husk balls which were hanging around here not being used and wet them and collected some of the seeds and spread it on the wet ball. they are hanging close to the largest clump of till on the tree stump and any that are popping still are blowing onto the damp ball as well. I keep the balls damp by spraying twice a day till good germination then drop back to once daily. we should get some impressive balls of tillandsia in a couple years. I also have quite a bit of seed growing in a number of mediums. For example I've tried a tray of soft fall which is very small pieces of bark. another is soft fall mixed with seed raising mix 1/1 ratio and another with more seed mix than soft fall maybe 1/3. I should have schiediana everywhere soon as I expect them all to grow prolifically. That's why I can't understand why commercial growers still charge double figures for a small clump of it. I know how easy it is to grow a large colony. how is your seed going Shirley?

I've decided to start a spreadsheet of what everyone wants pups of and I'll mark this sheet as I send it. That way I can keep print outs and write on them then transfer the info every now and then and reprint as required. best way to keep accurate records. So if anyone remembers something they've asked for let me know and I'll put it on the sheet. Like the pd50 that I posted a pic of and a couple of you asked for. Might be a while before I get some from that though. I am getting quite a collection of pups from the few that I think are quite nice. So maybe some to share soon. I'm just taking 3 generation pups from one lot now and 2nd gen flowering still looks nice.

Time for bed for me as we are having the girls for a sleepover tomorrow night so dad can do overtime and mum's working a function at dreamworld again. Sorry about the large post.

Night all
wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 29, 2012
5:14 PM

Post #9345729

Hi Ian and Wendy – seems we are getting fewer. If this continues I'll be writing to myself which is just one step up from talking to myself. The next thing I know, the little men in white coats will be coming to take me away for a holiday in a special home. Ha Ha.

Ian – I'm very interested in what you say about seedlings from Bill. Schemperiana seed. I have never seen a Bill with that name nor is it on the BCR or the FCBS species photo index. Could you possibly post a pic of the adult plant with or without a flower? Also a bit of history of where it came from etc. and if you have pic's it wouldn't hurt to send them to the FCBS to have them included on the photo index. The name sounds like it could be a species and the more info about species we have the better.

I too thought your Neo 'Medusa' looked like the Deroose clone. Just recently saw that Bunnings down here were selling heaps of tissue cultured Neo. 'Medusa' plants which although weren't flowering, were almost flowering size. On close inspection I noticed quite a few of them also had twisted leaves and I said to the horticulturist that I thought $22.95 was a bit steep for a plant with deformed leaves, and his answer was, “yes, well that's what sometimes happens with plants mass produced by tissue culture”.

I read somewhere once that in theory, you can produce millions of plants from the one original meristem and all should be identical to the parent plant. However the more you produce, the greater the risk of deformities occurring, and I think that's the problem with some of the plants we're getting now, some of the overseas lab's have just produced and produced all from the original meristem, all for the sake of the mighty dollar where all they had to do was start off a new batch from a new meristem after a few thousand were produced which would maintain a better quality of plant. I suppose we shouldn't forget that these plants are just produced for the most part to be sold in lieu of cut flowers, so possibly the consideration of leaf deformity doesn't come into the equation as long as it doesn't affect leaf colour or flower production.

I like your variegated Ae Blanchetiana, we don't see them down this way, and your Ae. Sphaeroglossa looks right at home in it's novel pot. Ae Caesia also looks good with its dark flowers, but it's Ae Filicaulis that catches my eye as I saw one of these in flower for the first time at our last meeting. It has the most unusual pendulous inflorescence with very fine, thin, fragile looking flowers all the way down the spike which hung down about two and a half times the height of the plant itself. I did notice that the leaves on that plant were a much darker colour than yours and probably as a result of it hanging high in the shade house to get good light. If that's the case, try moving yours to a brighter area higher up to allow for the flowers to hang down and it may prompt it to reward you with some flowers as it certainly appears to be large enough to flower.

Wendy – Yes Magpies are good value aren't they? We started feeding a pair here about five years ago and they would come in each day for their food and then fly back to the nest. When the young started to fly they would bring them in also and they would all line up on the clothes line. As soon as the young were large enough to feed and fend for themselves, the parents would chase them away every time they came into the yard, I suppose they didn't want the young to muck up a “good thing”. These same parents have been coming in twice a day every day and some years times they just have one batch of young but last year they had two, and at one stage we were feeding eight young magpies plus Mum and Dad. I've never been attacked by a magpie, so there's probably some truth in what the “oldies” told us as kids and that was that “magpies will never attack a person who feeds them”.

I don't have any pups of Billbergia 'Rosea' but I do have a spare plant (the one pictured yesterday). It has a couple of small pups coming but they're far too small to take off yet. I could send it to you, but the freight would probably cost you around the $30 mark as it's a pretty big plant at about 30” high. I think I have a seedling or two left from the same batch of seed (second sowing) and they are only about 4”-5” high and you're welcome to one of them but first I have to find them. If you're interested in the larger plant, let me know and I'll weigh it properly and give you a more accurate cost of postage.

The Ae calichroma x blanchetiana seedlings that I kept are also turning out to be dark coloured, although not quite as large as yours. They could turn out to be quite interesting feature plants in a large garden.

I forgot to mention earlier that I was given a lot of Puya Mirabilis seed if anyone wants any. I'm told it's very easy to grow and is one of the more common Puyas and has white flowers. If you would like some, just send me a stamped self addressed envelope and I'll get it in the mail to you.

That's about it for today; and I'll finish with a pic of a plant I was given as a small seedling quite a few years ago and one that I have used as a parent myself. Neo. 'Charm x 'Cracker Jack'

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 29, 2012
5:39 PM

Post #9345741

Hello all, sorry I was AWOL. Got alot to catch up on.
Wendy, sorry to hear Maxs prognosis. I hope his final weeks/months are happy ones with you.
Re your Blood Lilies, I repotted mine when they were dormant, about 2 months ago, and they have all flowered in the new pots this week. I planted them with a bit of the neck above the soil level, like a hippeastrium.
My back is like Nevs, in that I can sit or stand for quite awhile, but its the standing up, after sitting that I find it hard to straighten up
Nev, your seedlings from that long winded Billbergia cross sound like they have a huge mix of genes in there. I'm betting with so much Domingos Martins, they will look alot like the so-named cultivar.
The Blood Lily bulbs will grow in the same climate as Hippeastriums. Can you grow them down your way? The botanical name is Scadoxus. I have both the one that flowers first, then foliage
after, and the foliage first and flower after, which doesn't like being repotted, and didn't flower this year.
As for the tissue culture plants, alot of deformities appear after they have been grown on in commercial nurseries, and the growers spray hormone sprays to induce flowering. Sometimes the plants are a bit small, or have already initiated flowering, and the hormones confuse them. Often, this doesn't pass on to the offspring. Jen, did your mutant Guzmania ever throw more mutants? I suspected it wouldn't as it looked like it had begun to flower, then reverted to producing foliage. I'd be interested to know.
Anyway, like I said, limited time for chatting. It is my husbands 50th birthdy tody, and I am spending plenty of time with him and out three grown daughters (who are all having nanny naps after a big lunch)
Photo one, Neos in the garden
Photo two, looking through the garden
Photo three Alcantarea extensa
photo four, a late flowering Billbergia 'Hallelujah'

hello to Ian, Trish, Shirley and anyone looking in.
have a great weekend
Sue

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perke_patch

November 30, 2012
3:43 AM

Post #9346013

Hi to all.
Sue thanks for the info on repotting the blood lily. it was one of those jobs we meant to do but never got to so another year of full pot. will have to do it next spring. your gardens are looking great soo. probably a bit fuller now than when we were down there, what with all your new plants.

Nev thanks for the offer of the full sized bill rosea but not worth the postage so I will greatly appreciate the seedling of same you offered. I must post that packet of stamps off to you too. and must be time to make up another package to send to you. name what you want (except fo those new release and expensive ones of course hahaha) and I'll try to find them and send to you. I've been potting up some seedlings and took some pics today. pic 1 & 3 are some strands of barbed wire holding hanging pots. When taking them pics I realised that Johnny has hooks from pipe on roof to barbed wire to stop sagging and these hooks are used to hold heavier baskets of plants also.
Pic 2 is a new epi I received from Karen this year called bold venture. love the 2 tones of colour.
Pic 5 is a piece of tree fern trunk Johnny has suspended over the pond and planted with neophytums like ralph davis and firecracker. it's getting thick now. will have to try to get some pups out soon.
Pic 4 is the largest of the portea seedlings potted up into squat pot to grow on.

Oops dg mixed them but I saw before I posted hence the mixed up numbering.
Night all
Wendy

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ianperry

November 30, 2012
3:55 AM

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Hi all, another hot and dry day, not quite what we expect due to it supposed to be our wet season. I didn't do much here today but I did get out the camera and took a few piccies at 3.15pm out the front.All these plants have been getting full sun all day and it lasts to 6.00pm or when the sun goes behind a tree.I know what men do behind a tree but what does the sun do? I had smoko and a rest and then watered most of my plants, especially the ones mounted in trees.
Nev I left a part of the name out of my bil seedlings, it should of been Bil Nutans schimperiana. I have a piccie of it tonight.Thanks for correcting me and my abbreviations.
I would baulk at $22.50 for a Medusa, I would have to really want it although i paid more than that for Chiripo on ebay recently.I recently saw another that I think I want and can't remember whether it is a Jocob Koning or Chester Skotak new release and that plant is N Wild rabbit. I think it is Jacobs.I don't think it would be within my budget so I haven't even written it on my wants list.. How much heat will Puyas take I have been told that they won't survive here. I would expect that if they grow in Adelaide they would grow here. The moisture could be a problem though.
Aynway have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Bil Nutans schimperiana
Pic 2 Ananas lucidus
Pic 3 A happy medium neo growing in full sun beside lucidus
Pic 4 Looking down on my front garden from the steps
Pic 5 A neo hiding from the sun

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 30, 2012
4:44 AM

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Hi everyone, another month over and it’s getting very close to Xmas and the New Year. It has been really hot here the last couple of days but it is going to get even hotter next week according to the weather forecast.

Our internet is still acting up. Michael rang BigPond again today and gave them a serve and they said they will send out a new Modem … same old story.

Nev, I think my NOID is an aechmea rather than a neo but I could be wrong. Love your pic of the kookaburra. I have one that I hand feed but he hasn’t been around for a couple of weeks now. He seems to do this occasionally and I used to worry that he had come to grief but then he turns up again and visits every day for a few weeks … then goes AWOL again.

Wendy, glad to hear Max is faring well at the moment. And no, I didn’t get one of the aechmea seedlings you mention. My seed is doing very nicely, especially the neos. I haven’t had any of the tillandsea seed germinate as yet … still hoping.

Is your sale next weekend Wendy. If so, and if it’s OK with you, we might come over on Friday morning (if you are going to be home and not too busy getting ready for the sale). I will have to Dmail you a list of plants I am chasing … maybe you will have some of them or maybe Jen will.

Sue, love your pics and happy 50th birthday wishes to your hubby.

Hello to Trish, Ian, Colleen, Jen and Bree. Have a good weekend everyone.

Shirley



splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 30, 2012
1:25 PM

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Hi everyone – Well here it is the weekend once again and today's our Annual Christmas Party for the Bromeliad Society, no meeting, just a time for chatting with like minded brom growers. We had storms and very heavy rain for most of last night and this morning is dark and very overcast. Not at all looking like the forecast hot 40 degree Saturday.

Sue – Please pass on my belated happy birthday wishes to Bill, and tell him I said he's still only a “boy “. From what you say about Hipeastriums, I might have a chance of growing these “Blood Lilies”, “Pom Pom” flowers or whatever you want to call them as Hippeastriums thrive down here. Although I've never grown them, my neighbour across the road had a few big clumps in her garden and they flower every year.

Back to tissue cultured plants once more; when I was in hospital after an operation a friend brought me in a Vr Splendriet with the flower spike only half grown as a get well gift. Unfortunately when the spike was about three quarter size it started to twist and go all over the place. When it eventually flowered, the flowers were all deformed as well with some never even opening while others just went brown and fell off. I can tell you I was most disappointed and was almost ready to toss it, but had second thoughts and just put it down the back with all of the old Neo. mother plants.

Surprise!, surprise!, the following year a new pup grew very well and flowered without any sign of deformity and it has done so each year since. So in this case the deformity was just temporary, and I suspect was caused by the tissue culturing or the gassing/spraying to promote flowering or a combination of the two.

I wasn't so lucky with beautiful big Aechmea smooth leafed unnamed hybrid I bought from K Mart when they had a nursery section in their store down here some years ago. It was in full flower and lasted for months and later put up two beautiful big pups which grew into adult plants and later put up these massive pups themselves, but never a sign of a single flower on any of them. I moved them all around the yard in different light intensities and still no sign of flowers.

A friend gave me a little bottle of “Ethephon” which is what a lot of the nurseries use to initiate flowers on tissue cultured plants and he said to just put a drop or two into the cup and it would initiate flowering in a few months. I was tempted to use it but thought if I have to go to all this fiddling about, is it really worth it, and after all, you're still getting an artificial result anyway so it's still locked up in the poison cupboard.

As I bought the original plant almost ten years ago and last year when there were still no flowers, the whole lot (seven nice big healthy plants) all went into the “green bin” and that was the end to my purchasing of tissue cultured plants.

Nice garden shots Sue, but the Bill. Hallelujah still takes the prize and in my opinion (for what it's worth), it will have to be an extraordinary Billbergia hybrid that knocks this beauty into second place.

Wendy – Thanks for the offer of the stamps; I don't mind giving away plants and seeds to other people as long as I'm not out of pocket with postage. With swaps it's OK as both parties have to pay postage. I know it sound a bit “lousy” when I ask for a stamp self addressed envelope to send some seeds, but when you have to send seed or pups to twenty or more people just as a gift and not a swap, it all eats into the finances, and unfortunately “Julia” won't give me a “bromeliad allowance” on my pension to compensate for it.

I don't remember just what the next lot of pups were I wanted to swap with you and I'll have to look and see if I wrote them down anywhere. I seem to remember starting a file on them on this computer, but it's just remembering what I named the file that's the problem. Oh! ain't old age fun!

That's the first time I've seen pic's of plants on barbed wire close enough to make out the detail. I seem to remember Jack once saying he used this method to hang plants from when he built his new shade house at Tamera's place, but he only ever posted “long shots” of it.

Wow! Your Portea seedlings are powering along aren't they, what are you feeding them? Mine are only half that size, but then with a cooler climate and no feeding I suppose that's to be expected. I like Johnny's idea with the Tree Fern log, it looks great. I have one about the same size which I've been wondering what to do with for some time now, but now I know what I'll do.

Ian – That little bit of extra information makes a big difference; here's me thinking you had discovered a rare new species and getting all excited when ll the time it was one of the most popular and commonly grown Bill's of all times. I don't know how many of you have ever looked closely at the beauty of a Bill. Nutans flower, I know they don't last long but the colours are truly amazing (Pic 1).

Neo 'Wild Rabbit' is a Chester Skotak hybrid and just one of many which have since been named and are from a cross using Neo (carolinae variegated x Hannibal Lector) as a parent and in this case it's crossed with Neo. 'Tiger Cub'. To see others, go to http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?fields=Parents&id=10617&search=carolinae variegated x Hannibal Lector.

You say you are wondering how “Puyas” would grow there; I'm told they are very easy to grow and if you are that way inclined it's probably worth giving them a go.

Shirley – I never though about the possibility of your NOID being an Aechmea. I know there are some lovely variegated cultivated varieties such as Ae.Mend and Ae. Rodco to name just two which came originally from Ae Lueddemanniana and they are easy enough to tell as they all have similar flowers to Lueddemanniana. So when your plant eventually flowers, check the flower to see. It's a very nicely coloured plant whether it's a Neo or an Aechmea and if you ever get sick of growing it, you can always send it down here.

A “Get Well” wish to anyone on the sick list and also good morning to the “lurkers” who aren't posting. Hurry back, we need your input to keep this forum working properly, don't let it die.

Finally can someone please start a new thread for December as this one's getting pretty big now and I don't know how to do it.

A few pic's to finish with, firstly lets admire the beauty in this flower of Bill Nutans schimperiana (Pic.1) Pic 2 shows just what you may find in a brom garden when it's ”let go”. I had forgotten I even planted an old mother of Ae. Pectinata here few years ago, and still wouldn't have remembered it had it not been for the bright red foliage peeping through among the overgrown the Neo's . Pic.3 is one you don't often see any more; Ae Bromeliifolia Albobracteata is not everyone's “cup of tea” but I think there is still something attractive about the sculptural shape of it. Pic 4 shows one of the Neo. Seedling “Culls” in the front garden while Pic 5 shows another Neo seedling “cull” beneath the Golden Robinia tree.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 30, 2012
9:26 PM

Post #9346651

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1289502/
here is the new decmeber thread
Just a quick note tonight.
Ian, I think if you keep your Puyas in full sun, in well drained mix, and treat them a bit like a cactus, you might do ok with them. Have you got a hot sunny spot under the eaves?
Nev, I am with you on Bill. 'Hallelujah'. It would be very hard to improve, except by size!
Put me on the sick list...I've got a summer cold!
Wendy, the tree fern log looks great. I wish I had a stack of them to play with. So many uses.
Shirley, I hope you get your internet sorted soon. How annoying for you to have to go through all that again!
Hello to everyone looking in. Jump over to the december thread and post some nice pickies!
Sue
variegated blanchy

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