SOLVED: rudbeckia, echinacea or ratibida?

Seattle, WA

I am confused. Please help id.

thanks,

Pham

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Raleigh, NC(Zone 7b)

The first one is Echinacea - flowers look like E. pallida.

Second one may be Rudbeckia laciniata 'Herbstsonne' - but it's difficult to be sure without a picture that shows the entire plant including the foliage.

Kure Beach, NC(Zone 9a)

I agree.
Barb

Seattle, WA

you are right again.

thanks,

Pham

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