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    Communities > Forums > Plant Identification
    Forum: Plant IdentificationReplies: 23, Views: 261
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    VineWorld

    VineWorld
    Syracuse, UT (Zone 7b)

    November 26, 2012 7:02 PM

    Post #9343406

    Someone found this in Mexico and I was hoping someone could get an ID on this wonderous plant so I could help them out.

    Here is their description;
    "Small plant with broad leaves and fluffy white flowers. Growing out of the rocks along the river banks."
    And the area it was growing was "Tropical forest, dry season, Chorreadero Park, 10 km above Chiapa de Corzo, Chiapas, Mexico."

    Thumbnail by VineWorld   Thumbnail by VineWorld   Thumbnail by VineWorld   Thumbnail by VineWorld   Thumbnail by VineWorld
    Click an image for an enlarged view.

    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    November 26, 2012 7:13 PM

    Post #9343418

    Ageratum sp.?

    VineWorld

    VineWorld
    Syracuse, UT (Zone 7b)

    November 27, 2012 2:04 PM

    Post #9343956

    Seems like a good match, thanks!
    Perhaps someone can narrow it down to species.
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    November 27, 2012 2:28 PM

    Post #9343972

    Ageratum Mexicanum "White"?

    VineWorld

    VineWorld
    Syracuse, UT (Zone 7b)

    November 27, 2012 3:23 PM

    Post #9344020

    The leaves just seem bigger and the edges not as serrated.
    Gitagal
    Baltimore, MD (Zone 7a)

    November 27, 2012 3:47 PM

    Post #9344059

    Looks like a weed to me. Gita
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    November 27, 2012 4:10 PM

    Post #9344087

    Ageratum calaminthifolia?
    http://swbiodiversity.org/imglib/seinet/ASU/ASU0004/ASU00045...

    VineWorld

    VineWorld
    Syracuse, UT (Zone 7b)

    November 27, 2012 7:44 PM

    Post #9344281

    That says Ageratina and I looked at other pics and the leaves still look way to small and the stems are wrong.
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    November 27, 2012 7:51 PM

    Post #9344285

    sorry for the wrong link with the wrong genus. I'll try to look up
    It is difficult to look for the one with the leaves like that.

    This message was edited Nov 28, 2012 4:52 AM

    VineWorld

    VineWorld
    Syracuse, UT (Zone 7b)

    November 27, 2012 7:55 PM

    Post #9344289

    It's ok, I appreciate the help!

    themoonhowl

    themoonhowl
    Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)

    November 28, 2012 7:22 AM

    Post #9344568

    Could it possibly be A conyzoides?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageratum_conyzoides

    VineWorld

    VineWorld
    Syracuse, UT (Zone 7b)

    November 28, 2012 2:23 PM

    Post #9344813

    perhaps, but the leaves still seem to skinny and numerous, also a more serrated edge on the leaves.

    themoonhowl

    themoonhowl
    Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)

    November 28, 2012 2:29 PM

    Post #9344815

    This gives a list of Ageratum species...perhaps yours is among them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageratum

    growin

    growin
    Vancouver, BC (Zone 8b)


    November 28, 2012 2:44 PM

    Post #9344824

    You could also try this: http://www.tropicos.org/SpecimenGeoSearch.aspx
    zoom in on southern Mexico until Chiapa de Corzo is visible, paste Ageratum in the genus field and enter. What comes up are all the historical collections for the genus in the area. click on the green dots brings up the herbarium collection info and click on it to bring up the entry. I click the latin name of the plant and then I highlight the name and right click and "search google". It'll give you a targetted search for the region.

    VineWorld

    VineWorld
    Syracuse, UT (Zone 7b)

    November 28, 2012 3:15 PM

    Post #9344842

    Thanks growin, I tried that and its useful, but I didnt find any really good matches. But i'll save that website for the future!
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    December 4, 2012 12:45 PM

    Post #9349700

    Sorry for being wrong on this one. My research indicates it belongs to the genus Bartletinna, or mist flower.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1176&bih=590&gbv=2&tb...

    themoonhowl

    themoonhowl
    Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)

    December 4, 2012 3:22 PM

    Post #9349836

    Bartlettina sordida looks like a winner Vngarden...neat plant

    this is a very clear pic

    http://cityinagarden-jyoti.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.h...
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    December 4, 2012 3:29 PM

    Post #9349845

    I have these flowers as part of my photographic collection for the last two years. When I photoed at the conservatory, it didn't have a label or id tag so I was wrong for the last two years. Of all the mistflowers, I think B. sordida looks like the images provided by Vineworld.
    Vestia
    San Francisco, CA

    December 4, 2012 3:54 PM

    Post #9349876

    It does not look at all like Bartletina sordida as we grow it here.

    themoonhowl

    themoonhowl
    Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)

    December 4, 2012 4:07 PM

    Post #9349895

    The photo that i linked in is from Lincoln Park Conservatory...possibly they are mistaken in their ID .The plant in DG plant files ID'd as B sordida shows a marked difference in bloom appearance, but there is a white form that appears very close to VineWorld's original post.


    http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/68250/
    Vestia
    San Francisco, CA

    December 4, 2012 4:35 PM

    Post #9349914

    Bartlettina as I know it is a large coarse shrub, with thick leaves arranged opposite on heavy stems. It usually does not flower until over 3', and flowers are in large terminal clusters.
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    December 4, 2012 4:53 PM

    Post #9349934

    I still don't know for sure what it is. I just went to the conservatory to do my photography. Fortunately, they displayed the flowers posted by VineWorld but without a tag or ID.

    I uploaded an image I took on dec. 1, 2012 and I think it is nearly identical to what vineworld posted. I will be back to the conservatory to ask them. By then, we should know for sure.

    I have these flowers as part of my photo collection and I still don't know what they are.

    Thumbnail by vngarden
    Click the image for an enlarged view.

    singhg45
    Delhi
    India

    December 4, 2012 5:13 PM

    Post #9349949

    The plants does not seem to be B. sordida mainly because invlucre bracts are sharp and spreading, plant seems to be too small (and flowering) for what is shrub that can grow up to 15 feet tall, also the flower-heads form a large spreading inflorescence.
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    December 8, 2012 11:33 AM

    Post #9353076

    I just got back from the conservatory and able to id the plant in question. It is actually a Eupatorium atrorubens.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1266&bih=586&gbv=2&tb...

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