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VineWorld

VineWorld
Syracuse, UT
(Zone 7b)

November 26, 2012
7:02 PM

Post #9343406

Someone found this in Mexico and I was hoping someone could get an ID on this wonderous plant so I could help them out.

Here is their description;
"Small plant with broad leaves and fluffy white flowers. Growing out of the rocks along the river banks."
And the area it was growing was "Tropical forest, dry season, Chorreadero Park, 10 km above Chiapa de Corzo, Chiapas, Mexico."

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vngarden
Seattle, WA

November 26, 2012
7:13 PM

Post #9343418

Ageratum sp.?

VineWorld

VineWorld
Syracuse, UT
(Zone 7b)

November 27, 2012
2:04 PM

Post #9343956

Seems like a good match, thanks!
Perhaps someone can narrow it down to species.
vngarden
Seattle, WA

November 27, 2012
2:28 PM

Post #9343972

Ageratum Mexicanum "White"?

VineWorld

VineWorld
Syracuse, UT
(Zone 7b)

November 27, 2012
3:23 PM

Post #9344020

The leaves just seem bigger and the edges not as serrated.

Gitagal

Gitagal
Baltimore, MD
(Zone 7a)

November 27, 2012
3:47 PM

Post #9344059

Looks like a weed to me. Gita
vngarden
Seattle, WA

November 27, 2012
4:10 PM

Post #9344087

Ageratum calaminthifolia?
http://swbiodiversity.org/imglib/seinet/ASU/ASU0004/ASU0004525.jpg

VineWorld

VineWorld
Syracuse, UT
(Zone 7b)

November 27, 2012
7:44 PM

Post #9344281

That says Ageratina and I looked at other pics and the leaves still look way to small and the stems are wrong.
vngarden
Seattle, WA

November 27, 2012
7:51 PM

Post #9344285

sorry for the wrong link with the wrong genus. I'll try to look up
It is difficult to look for the one with the leaves like that.

This message was edited Nov 28, 2012 4:52 AM

VineWorld

VineWorld
Syracuse, UT
(Zone 7b)

November 27, 2012
7:55 PM

Post #9344289

It's ok, I appreciate the help!

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

November 28, 2012
7:22 AM

Post #9344568

Could it possibly be A conyzoides?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageratum_conyzoides

VineWorld

VineWorld
Syracuse, UT
(Zone 7b)

November 28, 2012
2:23 PM

Post #9344813

perhaps, but the leaves still seem to skinny and numerous, also a more serrated edge on the leaves.

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

November 28, 2012
2:29 PM

Post #9344815

This gives a list of Ageratum species...perhaps yours is among them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageratum

growin

growin
Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)


November 28, 2012
2:44 PM

Post #9344824

You could also try this: http://www.tropicos.org/SpecimenGeoSearch.aspx
zoom in on southern Mexico until Chiapa de Corzo is visible, paste Ageratum in the genus field and enter. What comes up are all the historical collections for the genus in the area. click on the green dots brings up the herbarium collection info and click on it to bring up the entry. I click the latin name of the plant and then I highlight the name and right click and "search google". It'll give you a targetted search for the region.

VineWorld

VineWorld
Syracuse, UT
(Zone 7b)

November 28, 2012
3:15 PM

Post #9344842

Thanks growin, I tried that and its useful, but I didnt find any really good matches. But i'll save that website for the future!
vngarden
Seattle, WA

December 4, 2012
12:45 PM

Post #9349700

Sorry for being wrong on this one. My research indicates it belongs to the genus Bartletinna, or mist flower.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1176&bih=590&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=bartletinna&oq=bartletinna&gs_l=img.3..0l10.120971.125860.0.126191.15.15.0.0.0.0.439.1138.3-2j1.3.0...0.0...1c.1.N4jA0cfEskc&pbx=1#hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&spell=1&q=bartlettina&sa=X&ei=H2C-UITODsH-iwKtmYC4BQ&ved=0CEEQvwUoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=59dda825d364ef10&bpcl=39580677&biw=1176&bih=590

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 4, 2012
3:22 PM

Post #9349836

Bartlettina sordida looks like a winner Vngarden...neat plant

this is a very clear pic

http://cityinagarden-jyoti.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html
vngarden
Seattle, WA

December 4, 2012
3:29 PM

Post #9349845

I have these flowers as part of my photographic collection for the last two years. When I photoed at the conservatory, it didn't have a label or id tag so I was wrong for the last two years. Of all the mistflowers, I think B. sordida looks like the images provided by Vineworld.
Vestia
San Francisco, CA

December 4, 2012
3:54 PM

Post #9349876

It does not look at all like Bartletina sordida as we grow it here.

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 4, 2012
4:07 PM

Post #9349895

The photo that i linked in is from Lincoln Park Conservatory...possibly they are mistaken in their ID .The plant in DG plant files ID'd as B sordida shows a marked difference in bloom appearance, but there is a white form that appears very close to VineWorld's original post.


http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/68250/
Vestia
San Francisco, CA

December 4, 2012
4:35 PM

Post #9349914

Bartlettina as I know it is a large coarse shrub, with thick leaves arranged opposite on heavy stems. It usually does not flower until over 3', and flowers are in large terminal clusters.
vngarden
Seattle, WA

December 4, 2012
4:53 PM

Post #9349934

I still don't know for sure what it is. I just went to the conservatory to do my photography. Fortunately, they displayed the flowers posted by VineWorld but without a tag or ID.

I uploaded an image I took on dec. 1, 2012 and I think it is nearly identical to what vineworld posted. I will be back to the conservatory to ask them. By then, we should know for sure.

I have these flowers as part of my photo collection and I still don't know what they are.

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singhg45
Delhi
India

December 4, 2012
5:13 PM

Post #9349949

The plants does not seem to be B. sordida mainly because invlucre bracts are sharp and spreading, plant seems to be too small (and flowering) for what is shrub that can grow up to 15 feet tall, also the flower-heads form a large spreading inflorescence.
vngarden
Seattle, WA

December 8, 2012
11:33 AM

Post #9353076

I just got back from the conservatory and able to id the plant in question. It is actually a Eupatorium atrorubens.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1266&bih=586&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=eupatorium+atrorubens&oq=eupatorium+a&gs_l=img.1.1.0l2j0i24l8.17434.18551.0.20463.2.2.0.0.0.0.208.348.0j1j1.2.0...0.0...1c.1.dRIR30phA8w&pbx=1

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