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grantska
Kalamazoo, MI

November 28, 2012
4:15 PM

Post #9344902

I have a second plant that I am trying to ID, also grown from unknown seeds. I don't have any knowledge on the origin of the seeds or the plants native range.

Any ideas on the plants Family or Genus would also be appreciated.

Thanks, Kaldis

growin

growin
Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)


November 28, 2012
4:31 PM

Post #9344910

A picture would help.
grantska
Kalamazoo, MI

November 28, 2012
4:43 PM

Post #9344923

Sorry, pictures didnt make it on the orriginal post. Here they are..

Thumbnail by grantska   Thumbnail by grantska   Thumbnail by grantska   Thumbnail by grantska   
Click an image for an enlarged view.

JoParrott
Richland, WA
(Zone 7b)

November 28, 2012
4:45 PM

Post #9344926

Kinda looks like a Peanut plant to me--
TomH3787
Raleigh, NC
(Zone 7b)

November 28, 2012
5:01 PM

Post #9344943

The seeds look like something from a plant in the Apiaceae family (e.g. cumin seeds) but I don't recognize the foliage.
vngarden
Seattle, WA

November 28, 2012
8:04 PM

Post #9345095

Maybe I am naive but image #1 looks similar to sunflower seeds? If so, it is a sunflower seedlings.

Then it should be a species of Helianthus?

The link to compare image 1 to google "sunflower seeds"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1259&bih=586&gbv=2&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=sunflower seeds&oq=sunflower seeds&gs_l=img.3..0l10.96011.96785.0.97288.5.5.0.0.0.0.178.581.2j3.5.0...0.0...1c.1.aD8MzRLsUbE&pbx=1

This message was edited Nov 28, 2012 8:10 PM
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

November 28, 2012
8:55 PM

Post #9345116

The plants definitely aren't sunflowers.
grantska
Kalamazoo, MI

November 28, 2012
9:06 PM

Post #9345120

TomH3787 wrote:The seeds look like something from a plant in the Apiaceae family (e.g. cumin seeds) but I don't recognize the foliage.


I would have to agree with TomH, they do looks a lot like cumin seeds. The seeds are very small (only about 3mm or 1/8 of an inch long). What would be some other key characteristics to look for if it is in the Apiaceae family?
spoonlegs
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

November 28, 2012
10:00 PM

Post #9345140

I agree that the plants and seeds both look very much like they are in the carrot family (Apiaceae). Could be a wild parsnip or angelica species . . . Is there any particular aroma when the foliage is crushed?

This page describes the characteristics of the carrot family (Apiaceae):
http://theseedsite.co.uk/apiaceae.html

P.S. If you go to your original post (the first post in this thread), click "Edit", and add your photos there, you may get better success with responses; many of us don't bother opening posts that look like they have no photos.

This message was edited Nov 28, 2012 10:07 PM
grantska
Kalamazoo, MI

November 29, 2012
2:12 PM

Post #9345596

Thanks for all the replies so far!

spoonlegs, the aroma is hard to describe...it reminds me a little of a mowed lawn that has a good amount of weeds in it. A bit citrusy, a little like crushed clover perhaps?

I would like to add that leaves are attached by a sheath and that the stems are furrowed (as far as I understand both characteristics the family Apiaceae).

I did try to use the "Edit" function to add the pictures to the original post but that only allowed me to edit the text, no photo option.
dillweed13
Gladstone, MI

November 30, 2012
10:51 AM

Post #9346266

try using a different browser? I had trouble uploading photos, then witched browsers and it worked.
ecrane3
Dublin, CA
(Zone 9a)

November 30, 2012
12:26 PM

Post #9346333

Just to clarify on the picture thing--once a post/reply has been published, you can't edit it and add pictures, all you can do is update the text of the post. Switching browsers won't change that, but if you're still having trouble in general with posting pictures then it's worth trying a different browser (I believe that the site in general tends to work better with Firefox vs Internet Explorer)

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

November 30, 2012
1:50 PM

Post #9346382

spoonlegs wrote: . . . Is there any particular aroma when the foliage is crushed?


grantska wrote:spoonlegs, the aroma is hard to describe...it reminds me a little of a mowed lawn that has a good amount of weeds in it. A bit citrusy, a little like crushed clover perhaps?


dillweed13 wrote:try using a different browser?


Don't think there's any browser that allows uploading aromas

[sorry, couldn't resist! ;-)
grantska
Kalamazoo, MI

December 3, 2012
3:34 PM

Post #9348993

Anyone have more ideas on what this could be?

growin

growin
Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)


December 3, 2012
6:14 PM

Post #9349120

Reminds me so much of some of the Celery's. There's a super-sized celery across the street but I can't remember what it is. The seeds would fit for Celery.
steadycam3
Houston Heights, TX
(Zone 9a)

December 3, 2012
6:28 PM

Post #9349135

What about lovage or smallage? The seeds seem to match.

This message was edited Dec 3, 2012 9:31 PM
spoonlegs
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

December 3, 2012
6:49 PM

Post #9349163

I'm still looking . . . Perhaps a Pimpinella species? But not Pimpinella anisum. Maybe Pimpinella saxifraga?
spoonlegs
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

December 4, 2012
12:29 PM

Post #9349691

. . . or one of the Ligusticums ?
http://www.ncwildflower.org/index.php/plants/details/ligusticum-canadense/
spoonlegs
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

December 4, 2012
2:11 PM

Post #9349773

How about Oxypolis rigidior? Looks like it grows wild in your state.
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=OXRI&photoID=oxri_1v.jpg
grantska
Kalamazoo, MI

December 4, 2012
3:51 PM

Post #9349870

It appears that my plant is developing at a slow rate and the leaves visible in the first pictures are a young/early leaf form.

Here is a picture of the mature plant, with flowers.

Thumbnail by grantska
Click the image for an enlarged view.

spoonlegs
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

December 5, 2012
1:17 PM

Post #9350633

What's going on? That's a picture in this photostream on flickr, labeled as Ammi majus.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5126367906/

growin

growin
Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)


December 5, 2012
2:21 PM

Post #9350686

grantska, if you open a new thread for this plant, this thread needs to be closed.
grantska
Kalamazoo, MI

December 5, 2012
2:31 PM

Post #9350699

spoonlegs wrote:What's going on? That's a picture in this photostream on flickr, labeled as Ammi majus.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanfari/5126367906/



Thats the one, Ami majus!
So heres whats going on... I was given several different seeds for a project in a plant ecology course. The assignment was to figure out what plant the seeds originated from. Information could be gathered by any means, dichotomous keys, crowd sourcing, etc. Because one of the plants was not producing adequate growth (was only showing young leaves, and there was no flowering) I was provided with that final photograph that showed up on the flickr page.

Thanks for all your help spoonlegs! The intermediary information you were providing was very good as well. From original information provided that truly looked like the right direction. If you dont mind me asking, how did you find the exact same photo?
spoonlegs
Cottage Grove, OR
(Zone 8a)

December 8, 2012
5:59 PM

Post #9353306

I did a google search for "zaik salalah dhofar oman", which is in the lower left corner of the picture.

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