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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 30, 2012
9:20 PM

Post #9346650

hello everyone. How good has this thread been for the last few months? Lets keep it going and keep posting all the wonderfull photos.
Welcome to anyone with an interest in bromeliads. Don't be shy. Join in, chat and ask as many questions as you like.
we came from here http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1286523/#top
Sue

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ianperry

December 1, 2012
12:34 AM

Post #9346669

Hi all, our brom group Xmas do is on tomorrow. I've been in the garden today filling holes with dirt and repositioning some of my plants. I also picked some more seed today. Ques quesneliana and N heart of fire which had some germinated seedlings in the pods. I guess it was time, mother at work again. I may have initiated that as I pulled a couple a week or two age to test for ripeness and put them back where they came from. I don't know whether that is a posibility or whether it is just 1 of those things. I also planted some Ae that may have been crossed with Gameosepala. Not much else happening except that my youngest son and his partner are moving back in for a while. She is due to have a baby very soon, like in the next few weeks so that could be fun. Sleepless nights again.
Have a good one
Ian

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 1, 2012
12:37 AM

Post #9346670

Sue is that youur Johannis de rolf? I love your Varigated Blanchy, ive always wanted one.
Got a few new ones i have yet to pot up and the pics are not very good taken inside.
Love the deep pink in this varigated one 1.Bobs Dream. 2. gotta love Lamberts Pride. 3. Finally got a Cane Fire. 4. Dark Veil, love the shape. Ever heard of this, its not on the register.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 1, 2012
4:51 AM

Post #9346724

Hi all, another very hot day here today.

Nev, hope you enjoyed your Brom Society Christmas Party. Nice pics and thanks for offering to take care of my NOID aechmea or whatever, and speaking of Ae Rodco, does anyone have a pup for sale or future swap as I would really love to get hold of one.

Sue, thanks for the new thread, love the variegated blanchy and your neo de Rolf. Is that neo Blast in the top left of the pic … very nice, and what is the one on the right? Hope you get over your cold quickly. I reckon a cold at this time of the year is the worst.

Ian, hope you enjoy your brom group Xmas party. And sounds like you are going to be busy for a while.

Bree, those are very nice plants.

Hi Trish, where are you ... missing the pics of all your lovely broms.

I took lots of photos today. There is so much colour in the broms at the moment with so many in flower … just beautiful … love my broms.

I will add some group shots tonight from various angles in the new shade house ... bit of spillover there as well. I will attach some of the broms in the old shade house next week.

Bye for now,

Shirley


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 1, 2012
12:09 PM

Post #9346984

Hi everyone – Not a very nice day down here yesterday; and although the temperature was only 39, when combined with the high humidity it really became quite uncomfortable. Fortunately the hall where we had our society Christmas Party had good air conditioning, so for the most part of the day we were quite comfortable, but didn't we know it when we got away from the air conditioning when the party finished.

I spent some time talking to a couple of new members at our party, and it looks like I have a couple of converts to the hobby of brom seed growing, so the quest for the perfect brom goes on.

Sue – Sorry to hear you have a cold, especially at this time of the year. I don't think there's anything so common that can make you feel so miserable, especially during the warmer weather.

That's nice colour you have in the variegated “Blanchy”, unfortunately we don't see them down this way. Also, that's a really nice looking Neo. 'De Rolf ' and a great way to start the new thread with a “bang”.

Ian – You do occasionally get a few seeds that can't wait for the pod to be opened before they start growing (fortunately not very often). I have on a couple of occasions also had seed germinate in the water in the cups of Neoregelias where I have squeezed some seed just for the hell of it.

You say you think your Aechmea may have crossed with Gamosepala, I tend to agree as I have found Ae. Gamosepala to be the most promiscuous of any brom, and it seems to want to breed with anything it can. Unfortunately the majority of the resulting flowers all tend to look like Gamosepala albeit often in different colours.

Best of luck with the “mother to be” moving in, I hope you've brushed up on your "emergency childbirth" skills Ha! Ha!

Breeindy – I like the colours in your pup of Neo.“Bob's Dream”, I have one called Neo 'Bob's Baby' which is a Grace Goode hybrid from Neo 'Aussie Dream' x Neo. 'Aussie Dream' . Your plant is another of Grace Goode's and was made by crossing Neo 'Bob's Baby' F2 with Neo. 'Lovely Lady' (which is also one of the Aussie Dream grex).Neo. 'Bob's Dream' has superior colouring to Bob's Baby and is a beautiful plant and when mature, has a large spreading habit. See: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3276#3276

I have to agree with you, Lambert's Pride and Cane Fire are both great plants; I have a plant called Neo 'Red Veil' but unfortunately I've never heard of Neo 'Dark Veil' so I can't help you with any other info about it.

Shirley – I did have a great time at our Christmas Party. As for a pup from Ae. 'Rodco' I seem to remember Sue was growing it so maybe she can help you out with a pup.

I love all of your pic's; when you see all of the different colours mixed up like that, it really makes all the hard work worthwhile doesn't it?

Before I go I'd like to just say “good day” to all of our members who are AWOL for various reasons and wish anyone on the sick list a speedy recovery. Finally I'll finish with some random pic's I took around the back yard early yesterday morning.

All the best, Nev.


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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 1, 2012
9:32 PM

Post #9347316

Hi All!

Wow it feels like it’s been about six months since I last posted except things appear to have gone a bit quiet, maybe everyone is busy running around getting Christmas shopping out of the way before the shops become bedlam to be around. We have not even started Christmas shopping other than the basics for the kitchen mainly (because I like to cook) and more decorations. We tend to leave things pretty much to the last minute because we only buy for a few family members as many years ago some wise family member decided we could do away with buying presents for one another and we all agreed it was a great idea, more important is a phone call to one another during the festive season whilst we are all on holidays and have a bit of extra time up our sleeves to get on the phone and catch-up properly or get together when we can.

Anyway, what have we been up to other than work, work, work? Well mainly temp shading more of the garden as we decided to prune some tree branches back that we kept hitting our head on which was the Avocado tree and now my broms aren’t as protected (go figure), so I built today a very semi sturdy sort of cover for them which should hopefully last until we can build something sturdy. I just felt way too lazy to go to Bunnings today which is not like me at all because I luv going to Bunnings (something must be wrong with me lol). Instead I just used what we had around the yard, off cuts of shade cloth, tomato stakes for support and bamboo poles placed at the front of the shade cloth ends, end result not that great but for now doing what I need it to do which is to protect my broms from the suns harsh rays so I can rest easy they will be ok for the week. I have attached a pic of work in progress and have started putting broms under this cover.

We also nearly finished putting broms in the spot I prepared in the pool area, they are all doing fine apart from a few I had to move because they were getting too much light and showing signs of loosing a bit of colour. So we mainly have sun hardy ones there now and they are going great and are colouring up nicely. Pic attached below. We have two more sails we want to put around the pool area which will mean I will be able to display more broms around the area probably in large pots planted in grouped or mixed up displays maybe.

Aside from the above the weekends nearly over already - sad face :(, I just have a few broms to pot up this arvo and want to give everything a good hand water later this arvo and that’s pretty much will be it for the day. We have a friend coming over late this arvo for a catch-up which will be nice.

The baby Kookaburra’s, 2 out of 3 have swan dived out of their nest luckily into a smaller tree below and appear to be doing well trying to fly / eat etc; which leaves 1 in the nest very unhappy indeed crying most of the day to be fed as not getting fed as often as before because mum and day are busy feeding them all but having to fly to them in all different directions. Anyway it is nice to hear and see nature so close to our back yard and I could easily watch them all day going about their business as I find it really relaxes me. Nev I really liked the picture you posted of your Kookaburra friend, how lucky are we that they grace us with their beautiful presence.

We have been going for heaps of swims during the day just to keep cool in between gardening and Lucy has a new boogie board and has also been joining us every swim, Lexi on the other hand has to be carried in like a big baby because she has a fear of the water which is a real shame, we are trying our best to train her not to be scarred but the only way she will get in is if we carry her and once she is in she relaxes as is content been held and is happy for us to let her go and swim to the edge by herself once we have given her time to settle down a bit first.

We are really looking forward to having some time off during Christmas, I have so much I want to do around the garden and I can’t wait to have time up my sleeve to get it all done, I will feel so content getting things in order around here and the nursery sorted for my broms.

I really enjoyed looking at everyone’s beautiful brom pics; so many more I have added to my want list. Hi Shirley and Sue you blew me away with your group shots of all your broms, how wonderful and healthy do they all look. Shirley you look like you could open up your own nursery with all the beautiful big healthy broms you have, how organised you are with them. Sue your newly constructed shade house is chock-a-block, I luv it. Do you have plans to build more of these around the garden, how great would it be to see an arial shot of your place, I am sure it would be amazing to see how you have it all set out. Sue would you happen to have a spare Blanchanata pup you could spare for a possible swap with the Neo Kismet you liked? This is one I have on my want list.

Sue thanks for starting new thread, I don’t know how to do this??? Hope you get rid of your Summer Flue as quick as it came, I agree with Shirley that Summer Flues are the worst.

Hi Bree really like all your new purchases, how are you going for room as some of these look like they need semi shade? Do you have any room in your Orchid Nursery for some of your broms? You will not be disappointed with Neo Cane Fire, I luv the one I have which is in flower but no signs of it pupping yet. I also want Neo Purple Cane Fire which is on my wish list. Bree the Orchid Pic I posted in November was of Temptation (part of the Roth’ family).

Hi Nev great pics of all your broms, what brom is your Pic 5 as I really like how intense the colouring is in this one, would definetly brighten up a dull corner. Glad to hear your Christmas Party went well and that you have some new people interested in growing from seed, how wonderful. What have you been up to in your garden and nursery, I would luv to see pics of both if you would not mind sharing? I can imagine your nursery would be so very organised and full of colour.

Ian you sound like you are going to have your hands full with mother to be moving in, I hope that it goes well for everyone and nice that you can all be together for Christmas.

Wendy glad to hear you and Johnny are spending quality time with Max and it’s great that Johnny took Max for a swim which he would have luved. Wendy I really liked your idea with the barbed wire in your nursery for hanging pots, it would be great in ours but I think the shade cloth is too low and we would probable injure ourselves on it lol.

Hi to everyone else who may be looking in or is on the Sick List. Until next time take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Time to go and pot up some of my broms, I will have to stop for a cuppa later when frend drops in.

Trish

Pic 1 Brom Garden in Pool Area (Pic taken at night)
Pic 2 Vr. Kiwi Sunset (BIG PLANT)
Pic 3 Neo NOID – Any ideas anyone????????????????????????? Its Pet Name is Neo Bubble Gum lol
Pic 4 Temp Shaded Area (looks crap but should do the job for now :)
Pic 5 Neo Aussie Dream (Tag just said Aussie D Seedling) I hope D stands for Dream?

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ianperry

December 2, 2012
3:01 AM

Post #9347349

Hi all, We had our lunch for Xmas at a club and then went to a members house for our last meeting for the year, just a quick meeting and then a bit of socialising.I gave a presentation on collecting seed from a Quesnelia quesneliana flower. They actually hide under the laminations of the flower spike. The ones on this spike were a sort of reddish and of a decent size. Photo 2 shows seed pod and some seed.
Nev I have brushed up on childberth emergency skills. it is called triple0.
Have a good one
ian
Pic 1 N Queens tears
Pic 2 Ques quesneliana seed and pod
Pic 3 Vr Kiwi dusk X sunset
Pic 4 Ae Bracteata showing teeth

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perke_patch

December 2, 2012
4:09 AM

Post #9347364

Hi everyone. Did you miss me yesterday??? I went to the theatre for the first time since about 1990 when I was at uni. we often went then as a group of fellow students. I forgot how much fun it was to see a live performance. This one was so funny. It was called "A kick in the Baubles" and was about a couples Christmas day and family and friends who come to visit. It was adults only so a bit of language and double entendre involved but that just made it all the more funny. The quote that stuck in my mind was one from the main male character called Frank talking about his wife's niece who was a typical dumb blonde. He said "If I ate a can of alphabet soup I could shit a more intelligent conversation than you could have with her."

Nev we have one of those Ae Bromeliifolia Albobracteata. I also loved the shape of it and when the infloresence was rising we expected something a bit more in proportion to the size of the plant. when it opened to this tiny little thing on top it was a bit disappointing. It is nice to now have a name for it though. thanks to you for naming it for me. (see pics please as now I'm not sure) Nev I'm happy to send you the stamps as I'm sure you've sent me more parcels than I've sent you so I must owe you postage and if a packet of stamps helps I'm happy to oblige now and then. I have been sowing more of your seed this week as I've been cleaning out the fridge before Christmas. Had lots of containers with just a bit of seed in so they've been emptied into little packets and trays used for sowing seeds instead. now to just wash out the inside now that all the containers are gone.

Shirley your shadehouse pics were lovely with lots of colour but those pipes in the middle look like they need some totem rings to give you another layer for your broms.

Ian I wish we could work out how to collect seed from the quesnelias. I recently tried crossing q. lieboniana with a billbergia. I don't know if this will work or not. I did get some seed on the billbergia and have about 5 or 6 seedlings starting to grow. Like the Ae Bromeliifolia Albobracteata I also love the shape and teeth of the bracteata. We never seem to have any problem selling these seedlings especially when they turn red growing in full sun. Sue gave me a batch of her seedlings that she couldn't get rid of and I think we are down to about 5 or 6 of them left now. we'll have to reort to just pups for a while till we get another batch of seedlings coming on. they are still only in little seedling tubes at present.

Ian your pic 1 doesn't look like queens tears to me. either DG as swapped around your pics or dropped one out completely.

Nev I meant to take an update pic today of ae caudata variegata flower but just ran out of time. I want to take pics of all the vriseas that Johnny has already put out the front for the sale. I've promised a friend in NQ a list of vrisea pups available as I have a Vr Dillings black beauty to send her and she wants something else in the parcel to make postage worth while. Shirley you are always welcome to come over on the Friday before our sales for first dibs. Johnny always stresses out that we are not going to be ready in time for a sale but today we filled our 7th table with some lovely full grown plants. we only have 3 more tables to fill and we have to keep one for Jen's plants. Shirley we have that ae you were wanting but I don't think Johnny has any out for sale yet. we do have a few round the yard though so he should have one to spare. we are trying to build up numbers again after almost running out last year. Jen restocked us from her supply and we have a few pups from those. we are going to put out a heap of freshly removed pups this time and sell them bare rooted to save potting. let someone else do that partinstead. we certainly have lots of pups we can take off and I even started today. cut down some foam boxes with no holes in bottom to leave only about 4 inch sides. I put empty pots inside this and stand pups up in them. All pups will have names in felt on side and a label in middle. we use laminated pics attached to the pups to show how pup will end up and this seems to sell them for us.

Pic 1 is the caudata infloresence developing for Nev. Today I noticed lovely yellow flowers peeping out of that big orange infl. meant to get a pic for you Nev but I promise I will tomorrow.
Pic 2 is ae freckles also flowering in the front yard.
Pic 3 & 4 is the plant we had labelled as triangularis that I thought was your Ae Bromeliifolia Albobracteata Nev but I think the shape of the infl may be different. can you confirm if it is one or the other of those names??? (sorry DG mixed the order up... now 3 & 5)
Pic 5 is our alcant extensa flower spike now sticking up over the top of the shadehouse. we can see it from the front verandah now when we are having our cups of tea. last couple days have been just too damn hot to enjoy too many cuppas through the day though so we've just been sitting downstairs and have a cold drink instead unless it is just too hot to sit down there. This usually means there is no cooling breeze to keep it cool under the tin roof. but usually we do get a breeze in there and that is where my potting table is set up. Johnny will insist that I move everything away this week though so it is nice and clean and tidy for sale. which annoys me as I only have to retrieve all my pots and bits and pieces again to set up next week fo continue potting.

ah well time for bed again. thanks Sue for the new thread. I was wracking my brain trying t remember how so was glad when you did it. Sorry if I missed anyone. Trish an Bree lovely pics again.
Night all
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 2, 2012
4:51 AM

Post #9347371

Hi everyone, we had a fairly quiet weekend, didn’t do much at all. It was too hot to go brom searching at any of the local markets. I did manage to plant a few things in the garden very late this afternoon, when it cooled off a bit.

I noticed quite a few pups on my neos this morning, coming along nicely. I was especially pleased to see I have two on my neo Manoa Beauty which is great as it’s still very close to the top of my favourites list.

Nev, do you have the names of the neos in the pics attached to your last post.

Trish, great to hear from you, it does seem like a long time since you last posted. Lovely pics.

Wendy, you’re right, some totem rings would certainly make the pipes in the shade house look a whole lot better. You seem to be organised for your sale well in advance. We’ll see you around mid morning on Friday, looking forward to catching up with you and Johnny (and Max).

Pics of a few more of my favourite neos - 1 Jewellery Shop, 2 Painted Delight, 3 Camelot, 4 Hula Girl, 5 Purple Star

Bye for now,

Shirley



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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 2, 2012
12:41 PM

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Shirley i love all them broms to. I have Jewellery Shop and Camelot but not the others.
I have this one called Purple Surprise? (got abit damaged when my bf cut some palm fronds down on it).
Nev what were your pics, love them also.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 2, 2012
2:00 PM

Post #9347893

Hi everyone – We had more nice light rain overnight and everything in the garden's looking great.
I hope everyone's in good health, and those on the sick list are recovering well and also the “sick computers”; I hope they're getting better and their owners will once again soon be posting.

Trish – Nice to see you putting up your weekend post once again, it's great to hear all of your news.

Christmas shopping, what's that? My daughter loves shopping, so she takes my wife with her and I am left behind to just keep company with my brom's; this really upsets me (I don't think) as there's nothing I used to hate more than trying to wade through the Christmas crowds of shoppers and coming home feeling like you had done a hard day's work.

I like your temporary shade area; I must say it looks most professional even though you say it looks “crap”. I have an area I'm replanting down the back but unfortunately I've left it too late for the plants to become gradually acclimatised to the hot weather so it looks like I'll have to erect something similar as sun protection.

You're very lucky to see the young Kookaburras at such close quarters. The ones that come in here all come from “Blackbutt Reserve” which is about one kilometre from here and most of the other wild birds that visit seem to come from there also.

I pleased to see the Spotted Honey Eaters nesting once again in my Vriesea Shade House, this make the third year in a row now they have nested there. They are now getting quite tame and trusting and when I am set up in the garage potting plants, they will now often fly in one door and hop around the shelves and watch what I'm doing for a while before flying out through the back door and into the shade house. Like you say, we are very fortunate to be able to enjoy this wildlife at such close quarters. It's also great to see you including your dogs into your swimming, they're great mates and really do become an integral part of the family. It's very interesting, but I've found over the years that people who grow brom's are usually also interested in anything to do with pets and “Mother Nature”, I guess we must all be nice, kind people!

Trish, my pic 5 is Neo 'Pink Sensation', it's a beautiful brom but unfortunately I'm not sufficiently skilled at capturing the true colour on my camera. It's not as dark as that picture shows, and is more of a “lolly pink” with a sort of iridescence about it. As for pic's of my garden, well I don't really have a garden as such. I just have a few shade structures around the yard made mainly from re-cycled materials with brom's planted in the ground in the areas in between. As I tell people, it isn't something I built, it just “grew”. Anyway, when the rain stops I'll try and get a few pic's to better describe what I have.

As usual you've posted pic's of some very nice plants and the one in the last pic looks more like Neo. 'Nobel Descent' or Neo. 'Nobel Descent Too' to me, are you sure of the label? You know what they say, “you should never trust the name on a label”!

Ian – It's great to hear you are sharing your knowledge with fellow brom growers. You certainly chose a good subject, and I say this because, all the years I have been attending brom meetings, I have never heard a presentation on Quesnelias, especially gathering seed from them. Perhaps you'd like to write a bit about it here for us all to learn from.

It's also good to see you know what to do if the baby comes at home. Tripple “0” is is the way to go, but what if the ambulance is held up in traffic? Then it's Ian to the rescue, Ha! Ha!

I'm amazed at the “teeth” on you Ae Bracteata, really a savage looking beast isn't it? It seems like before you start handling that one, you would need some of those stainless steel mesh gloves like the meat boners wear.

Wendy – I grew those Ae. Bromeliifolia albobracteata plants from seed I bought off Ebay. I had never heard of the plant before, and at that time I was growing all the seed I could get my hands on (you know how it is), so I sent away for it. They grew very easily and quickly and I too was anxiously awaiting the flower as it emerged and boy oh boy what an anti-climax. Although I hate the teeth on the plant, there is something about the sculptural shape of the plant that is attractive and I did give one to a Cactus growing friend who planted it in the middle of a Cactus Garden as a feature and it looks great, so I guess there is a place for everything after all.

I did the same as you when selling freshly cut pups at our last show. I put pic's of the adult flowering plant on each one so people could see what they were getting and I sold the lot. I have always preferred to buy bare root pups myself , because I always pot new acquisitions in my own mix anyway, and besides you can tell a lot more about the condition of the plant if they are bare rooted or freshly cut with no roots when you buy them.

I like your variegated Caudata, and after you posted it previously I went and had a look at mine and my variegated one is putting up a flower spike as well. However still nothing from the albo-marginated one, so it looks like it will be getting moved to a new location.

Your pic's 3 and 5 certainly look like Ae bromeliifolia albobracteata to me and not Ae. Triangularis. I can only assume the flowers were pale green and short lived as well? (see Pic 1).

Shirley – Gee I really slipped up didn't I? Fancy forgetting to put names on the plants in the pic's. Anyway here goes, Pic 1 was Neo. 'Narelle' (One I got from Wendy I think, and I also think it's an Alan Freeman hybrid) , Pic.2 was Neo. 'Lamberts's Pride' x ['Charm' x 'Cracker Jack'], Pic.3 was Neo. 'Lovely Lady', Pic.4 was one of my own hybrids made from Neo 'Painted Lady' (variegated sport) x Neo. 'Ferny Grove'and Pic. 5 was Neo.'Pink Sensation'.

You've posted pic's of five top quality plants yet again Shirley. I really like the plant named as Neo.'Camelot' in your third pic. It's a magnificent looking plant and the white colouring is really a “stand-out” and very “eye catching”. Is this the true colour or is it a trick of the camera? If this is the true colour, I think you really have managed to get a special “sport” of Camelot. If the colour is as the picture depicts, could you please put my name down for a pup when you get one spare?

Breeindy – Gee your boyfriend certainly took the smile of the face of that brom. What happened to him after you “decked him” and he picked himself up of the ground? Did you issue him with a penalty of six months gardening and brom shopping with you?

Time for breakfast now, so some pic's to finish with; firstly Pic.1 which is Ae. Bromeliifolia albobracteata flower (for Wendy), Pic 2 is Neo 'Ashanti' which I got from Sue, however I can't get the colour as good as Sue can. Pic.3 is Neo. 'Ice White River', Pic 4 is Neo. 'Hot Gossip' and Pic 5 is Neo. 'Pink Star'

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

December 3, 2012
12:45 AM

Post #9348366

Hi all, I just had to plant up some more seeds again, this time to make room to play with my Quesnelia flower. i bought this plant flowering on 22-07-12 and have been watching for any sign of change in where i hoped seeds might be. Gently I have been peeling back the crepe like layers and viewing inside.. I think it was on Thursday that i saw the first seed pod plump and pink in colour. There were a lot of brown ones but they were empty. The pink one actually had seeds within. I just hope that they are ripe, too late now as I have cut the flower off. I have a few piccies of how to find the seed pods. I think the piccies will explain how to find them more than my words. I have no idea how to fertilise the flowers so that Mother makes the seeds form. That is something that I need to look into. I am still experimenting and if anyone tells me it can't be done, then I see it as a challenge.If there is a will there is a way (and a relative). It is now time to feed the inner man, Will be back later.
Pic 1 Quesnelia mature flower with seed pods hidden under crepe like covers.
Pic 2 Pink/red seed pods with covers taken off.

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ianperry

December 3, 2012
1:33 AM

Post #9348371

Back again, had to resize my pics.
Pic 1 Ae bracteata with flower spike. It has been resting against a fence until yesterday and then I potted it.
pic 2 Ae Little Harve
Pic 3 Ques seed pods at end of skewer full sun pic
Pic 4 same pic in shade
Pic 5 Mumma flower on 12-07-12
Wendy The neo had a label of Queens tears, but I cannot find it on fcbs. I will ask the seller next time I see them. I think you could be correct.
Nev If I have to call triple0 I will be talked through whatever is necessary, besides that Ros has done her training in maternity/ midwifery but would she remember it, that is the question.
I just love all the pics.
Have a good one
ian

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 3, 2012
2:33 AM

Post #9348379

Hi Everyone!

Super quick look in tonight as I have book work to do, hope I can stay awake to get some of it done.

Fantastic pics everyone, Shirley I agree totally with Nev, WOW your Neo Camelot is very different to any that I have seen, I like yours so much better than mine, that white banding is amazing, what a prize plant you have there.

Nev, that brom of mine you mentioned might be Neo Nobel Descent or Nobel Descent Two, was labled by who ever Germaine purchased from as Aussie D Seedling? Nev do you have any pics you can post so I can compare thanks?

Nev that temp shade area you liked is very easy to construct, I just put the tomato stake structure up first then tackle the shade cloth in sections so that if any get damaged one panel can be removed and replaced, I will eventually change the bamboo ends that make it look so out of shape with more of the tomato stakes to achieve a more even line. I constructed a smaller version else where in the garden and it's still standing like when I first put it up a year ago and has really served it's purpose protecting my broms from falling mangos and avocados that just roll off as well as helps keep the leaf litter away. I attach the shade cloth to the fence with zip ties.

Nev your Neo Ashanti reminds me so much of my Neo Cliff Siverd, are they at all related??? Thanks for letting me know that your Pic 5 was Pink Sensation - what a beautiful brom.

Good news the last of the Kookaburra's has left the nest and we heard them all singing to one another when I got home from work and I was so pleased that he or she finally got the courage to take a flying leap out of the nest so to speak lol. If I had been there at the time I would have probably had to cover my eyes praying they would have a safe landing, but it must have because no baby Kookaburra anywhere in site.

Anyway I better get started on that dreaded bookwork :(

Just one pic tonight of Ae Ensign that I only paid a couple of dollars for because it had a great deal of bottom leaf damage that I have cut away:

Night All!

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 3, 2012
4:57 AM

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Hi all, was it hot today or what !!! We didn’t get the storm that was predicted this arvo so I am hoping it won’t be as hot tomorrow as forecast, up in the high thirties.

Bree, shame about the damage to your neo purple surprise, it looks like a nice brom. I remember seeing a pic of one of your vrieseas (I think it was vr gigantea) a while back that was damaged by falling palm fronds your partner cut down … hopefully just the one incident caused the damaged to both plants.

Nev, cameras are tricky aren’t they. My neo Camelot is not white but a pale yellow-green colour but still a very eye catching plant. It is certainly paler in colour than another neo Camelot I have but the markings are similar. It is still quite young, my daughter gave it to me in June as a large pup. I will make a note that you would like a pup and post more pics as it grows and you can let me know if you are still interested.

Nev, I really like your neos, especially neo Narelle, I will have to see if Wendy has another one and also your neos Ashanti and Ice White River. I have a neo Pink Star which looks similar to yours but the BCR shows it as a variegated plant (albo marginated).

Trish, as I mentioned to Nev, my neo Camelot is actually pale yellowish green but getting paler as it matures. Lots of white on your ae Ensign, I like the colouring.

Sue, hope you are recovering from your cold, guess it has slowed you down a bit hey!!

Hi to Ian and Wendy

Tonight’s pic is my Nid Innocenti coming into bloom.

Till tomorrow, Shirley


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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 3, 2012
2:11 PM

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Shirley yes same incident, it was my V. Gruberi.
Love Neo 'Ashanti' Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 3, 2012
8:55 PM

Post #9349219

Hi All!

BIG thread today – my apologies in advance but I need to seize the opportunity when it presents itself lol.

Took a day’s annual leave today as had to drop car in for a service and it would cost way too much for me to taxi into work and back so normally I take day off and drop car in really early so I can pick it up late arvo so I am not without a vehicle for the next day.

Spending the rest of the day in the garden as have heaps of brom splitting to do as some of the broms I purchased recently had two or more broms in the one pot that are fighting for room to breathe; this will hopefully promote them to pup as some of them are in flower, I normally do not separate them until after they flower but I really have no choice as they are that squashed up together there would be no room for them to pup anyway, aside from the fact that the pots keep falling over all the time from being too top heavy and some of the pots are perishing.

Shaded another part of our entertainment area early this morning before it got too hot so I could shelter some more of my Vrieseas . I am chasing as much shade possible at the moment, especially for my Vrieseas; I also like to keep them in our entertainment area because aside from this protecting them from the sun it also protects them from wind and debris damage given how long some of their leaves can grow, so they tend to receive more damage than my neo’s if I have them outside. I do have a few duplicate Vrieseas outside tucked in between and under shrubs and they appear to be doing fine.

Hi Shirley pleased to hear you liked my Ae. Ensign, yeah it does have a lot of white which I am very pleased about as I really want to inject more white amongst all my other broms as I seem to collect the darker types with deep colouring for some reason? Joe recently purchased Ae. Orlandiana “Pinky” that I had my eye on from EBay and am really looking forward to receiving it in the mail, as soon as I have received and potted up I will upload a pic to everyone.

Shirley thanks for clarifying the colour of your Neo Camelot is Pale Yellowish Green, it still looks absolutely divine and so very different to mine. I really like your Pic of Nid Innocenti; it is a very striking plant with those beautiful variegated leaves.

Hi Bree I think the NOID Pup I thought was Neo Stormy Weather but is not is nearly ready to separated and send off to you, I will have to look and see if I have anything else ready that I can pop in a parcel for you, so can you please D-Mail me with your postal details etc. when you get a chance. Hey those squashed broms you posted pics of sadden me he he, but hey at least they will recover down the track when they grow some new foliage. A few of mine got SMASHED with Avocado’s right in the centre and they are still alive and growing new foliage, I just tend to put them further back in the queue rather than right up in front because they look a bit neglected lol. Anyway they are protected now by the temp shade cloth structure I recently constructed.

Bree I just found a pup I separated that you might like of Neo ‘Scandal’ – Seed Parent (carolinae x sapiatibensis), Hybridizer Skotak, C. It is a very nice variegated pup that I think gets very pink in the centre; the half dead mother that I took it off appears to be a medium sized grower, I have placed her in my retirement village as she may just produce a few more pups now that I have cut pups off her (you just never know). Anyway please let me know if you are interested or not as I have a spare I can also post to you? Bree I have posted Pic 1 so you can see well established pup, I think it needs a semi shady spot even though it’s leaves are thick and leathery to touch?

I can’t wait to have some time off over Xmas as I have a few more projects in mind for the garden, we have a huge clumping palm tree of some sort NOID in the front yard that would be great for shading broms under, I am planning to dig a large circle around the palm tree and reinforce the circle with either rocks, bricks or something else and then top the area up with nice large pebbles for all my broms to sit on. Anyway hopefully I will get some of this done over my Xmas break? I have pruned a lot of the inner part of the palm tree back to let more light and air in. I also want to continue extending the back brom garden bed, I have the shade cloth part already done as this area gets slammed by direct sun from about 12noon onwards and the irrigation line we ran along the top if the fence is in place and operational; we would only uncover this area for parts of the day like on weekends. It is not ideal but at least it gives me more room to house some of my Neo’s and the ones that are under there at present appear very happy.

Anyway time to go and get my hands dirty as these broms need to be split and potted up – ah how relaxing a task it is.

Hi to everyone else who may be looking in or is on the Sick List. Until next time take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Trish

I will post this thread later this arvo once I have taken some pics to attach.
Pic 1 Neo Scandal
Pic 2 Friend Wallaby that came to visit us today while I had the camera around my neck walking around the garden.
Pic 3 Nev I thought you might appreciate this photo taken today also of the Sunbird that very often visits me when I am in the garden, a bit like the ones that visit you in your nursery. How beautiful are they.
Pic 4 Neo Rose Blush
Pic 5 My Woolworths purchase the other day of Ae. Fasciata ‘Pink Vase’

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 3, 2012
10:49 PM

Post #9349254

Hi everyone - Well we're back into the second day of another week and, is it me or are the days going faster and faster? It's a bit hot here today with a warm westerly wind blowing to make it even more uncomfortable.

I'm a bit limited in what I can do today as I can't bend too far because I scalded the right side of my chest and abdomen with boiling water last Friday morning and now the blisters are starting to break and the raw area is aggravated every time I try to bend down. They reckon there's no fool like an old fool and this all happened when I picked up the kettle with wet hands and it slipped out of my grasp. Instead of just letting the kettle fall on the floor and jumping clear, my natural instinct was to try and hold it which meant I copped the boiling water instead. I'll tell you something though, I'll bet no body's ever taken off a tee shirt as quickly as I did.

Ian – Thanks for the info on harvesting seed from a Quesnelia. I can honestly say I haven't done this before as I try to stay clear of all the teeth on the leaves. However I have a plant of Quesnelia Quesneliana 'Rubra' which has recently finished flowering and to satisfy my curiosity, I went looking for seed capsules on that particular plant, and I followed your instructions and low and behold I found them. These ones were white in colour however there was no seed in the two I picked out so maybe a bit early yet as they didn't come out too easily.

As for pollinating them Ian, the process is exactly the same for any flower, you just have to take the pollen which is on the anther (male part of the flower) and found on the top part of the stamen and then transfer it to the stigma which is the female part of the flower. However I'm probably over simplifying things a bit here, as different brom's have these male and female parts in different locations within the flower. For example a Neoregelia has the stigma concealed beneath the stamens whereas with a Billbergia the stigma is sticking out clear of the stamens. So I guess it's probably a case of a bit of botany homework to find where these parts are located on Quesnelias before you can start any pollinating process.

I really admire your Ae Bracteata with its nice sculptural shape not that much unlike an Ae Bromeliifolia. The nice large red inflorescence is really nicely set off by the brilliant scarlet bracts, and makes it a real “show stopper”; however it's all the teeth on the leaves that stops me from ever owning one.

Trish – I think I'm pretty safe in saying with your Neo. Aussie D seedling the “D” probably stands for “Dream” as in Aussie “Dream” seedling but which of the plants in the Aussie Dream grex is it, that's the question as there are many of them, both named and unnamed, see a list of just the registered ones at:
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=2992#2992

It could be from the “original”Aussie Dream grex or it may even be a seedling from another later cross using one of the many Aussie Dreams as one of the parents and as you know, once you start crossing hybrid to hybrid anything's likely to turn up.

I'm posting two Neo. Noble Descent pictures (Pic's 1 and 2) from different sources and as you know these plants vary greatly depending on the amount of light they are grown under. I've seen them grown in very high light where they all are almost yellow and also in shade where they can be green. Pic 3 is Neo. 'Noble Descent Too' which can also be grown in good light to get the same yellowish foliage as the others. If your Aussie D seedling is only a smallish plant it's probably worth comparing it to the pic of Neo 'Fanfare' (Pic. 4) as that also sometimes can have similar colouring albeit a much smaller plant.

Unfortunately I can't check if there's any link between Neo 'Ashanti' and Neo Cliff Siverd as Neo 'Ashanti' is unregistered, but now that you mention it they do look a bit similar. Having said that though, the plant in my pic has a bit more growing to do before it's fully mature and the colour could change as it's quite different to Jen's Neo 'Ashanti' which she posted a pic of some while back. (see Pic.5)

You got a bit of a bargain with your Ae. Ensign, but let's just hope that any pups from it don't have too much more white otherwise they may start throwing albinos. As for the dead leaves around the base, well that's pretty common with all of the Ae. Orlandiana group and I suspect is just a part of the normal life cycle.

Shirley – I suspected it may have been a trick of the camera that gave the white colouring with your Camelot, however we never know if we don't ask. The fact that it is a bit different to your other Camelot suggests it may be a different clone and worth collecting anyway.

As for Neo. 'Pink Star', I never previously checked that against the BCR as I swappedt two plants from a very reliable friend of mine who had previously bought them from a reputable bromeliad nursery in N.S.W. The two plants were Neo. 'Purple Star' and Neo. 'Pink Star' and I just assumed they were grex mates from the same crossing, however we all know what happens when we “assume” don't we? (says he with egg all over his face)

I think the nice Nidularium in your pic is Nid. Innocentii lineatum not just straight Innocentii.

That's it for now and I'll finish now with some pic's for Trish. Pic's 1 and 2 are of different Neo 'Noble Descent' plants showing the various colours. Pic 3 is Neo Noble Descent Too which I've also seen the same colour as the Noble Descents, Pic.4 is Neo 'Fanfare and 'Pic' 5 is a pic of Jen's Neo 'Ashanti' which she has posted here previously. How do I know? Well it had her name on the Copyright but I'm sure she won't mind me posting it again for her.

All the best, Nev.

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 4, 2012
4:47 AM

Post #9349340

Hi everyone, what a shocker of a day … soooo HOT. It’s quite windy at the moment, so hoping it’s a bit cooler tomorrow.

Trish, good to hear from you mid week. Sounds like you are going to be busy for the rest of the year.

Nev, sorry to hear you burned yourself, hope it’s not too painful. Take care not to get an infection and get some rest. Put the feet up for a few days, take it easy, it’s too hot to work anyway.

Hi to Wendy, Sue, Ian, Bree.

Pics are mini neos 1 Rosy Fireball, 2 Wild Tiger … sorry Bree

Catch up tomorrow,

Shirley

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perke_patch

December 4, 2012
5:18 AM

Post #9349356

Hi everyone. missed you all last night. I got caught up on a fb group with old school photos from Redlands schools. I found several with my oldest son Darren and even some with my husband in them but none with me. It was great to look through a try to id people I know. there were also lots of pics from around the redlands and I enjoyed trying to id those too. sddenly it was so late I turned computer off and went to bed. enjoyed the journey down memory lane though.

Ian I went looking for a quesnelia spent flower to pull apart today and discovered that hubby had cut off most already but did find 2 quesnelia quesnelia. I pulled them apart but I think they were too far gone.I'll have to try again next flower season. I'm hoping the billbergia I crossed with ques lieboniana will produce something different. at worst I'll have a billbergia seedling that will look nice. if anyone does get lucky and has lots of quesnelia seeds I'm happy to swap some seed to try growing some quesnelia seedlings.

Boy did we feel the heat today. by about 9am it was so hot and steamy downstairs that Johnny took Max for a swim and I stayed home to play with broms. I picked out a couple trays of plants to put out on tables then filled their spots with newly potted pups so I could clean out the potting area on back patio area by the pond. We have set up a couple tables there with foliage vriseas for sale. When Johnny came back he decided it was too hot to work so we went for a drive in the air conditioned car and ended up out at his sisters place. Johnny decided to start up the motorhome to see if the battery needed to come home to be charged up. Would you believe it actually started up after a short while. Anyway when we came home again it was so hot we just had to suck it up and work but there was a cooling breeze. However between 3 and 4pm the breeze got so hot it was more uncomfortable than refreshing. shirley we didn't get any of that storm yesterday either except for about 2ml of rain but Johnny's sister out back of Redland Bay said they had over an hour of really really heavy rain. so heavy they couldn't hear TV over the sound of rain on tin roof. we needed some of that.

We love our wildlife as the rest of you seem to do. we have our 2 baby magpies which we've christened heckle and jeckle. if I'm potting downstairs and I don't come when they call from upstairs one actually walks down the stairs to come to me now. the other one usually just hops in from the lawn area but they both now come to tell me they want to be fed. I still can't get them to take food from my hand yet but they are getting closer. Mum always takes food right out of our hands. the butcher birds also take food from our hands or they catch if if we throw it to them. I saw a butcher bird capture a small snake this morning down near the beach. he was sitting on a wire fence looking down to the footpath and as we drove past he flew down and grabbed the snake about 40cm long and thick as a finger. he belted it against the fence a couple times then went into the bush and we couldn't see where he went.

I'm off to bed now as we still have so much to do to get ready for this weekend. Shirley see you Friday morning. oh and I love that camelot plant of yours too so when you get lots of pups please put me on the list for one too. I think I have camelot but nothing like that pic of yours.

Pic 1 is neo burle marxii which looks lovely at this time of year when it gets the purple spotted flush.
Pic 2 is purple concentrica. I put about 2 or 3 of these out on tables today.
Pic 3 is neo fury. a couple of these on sales tables too.
Pic 4 is neo strawberry x little africa. finally got a really nice colour on a couple of these by putting them where they get strong morning sunlight with shelter from overhead trees. too much sun bleaches colour like in pic5 but just enough sunlight and I have a lovely specimen out for sale (pic 4) and one for me which nice chocolate colour. I just had to go downstairs to take a pic immediately to show you.

anyway night all.
Wendy.

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perke_patch

December 4, 2012
5:21 AM

Post #9349362

oh and Nev, take care of your burns. you should remember kettles don't make good juggling tools. I bet you moved faster ripping that shirt off and it's a bit hard getting that part of the body in under the tap in the sink to cool it quickly.. not as easy as a splash on the hand from the kettle. do take good care of it and as Shirley said fingers crossed you don't get any infection from it.
that is the sort of thing Johnny would do I'm afraid. his hands just let go at the most inappropriate times like that.

night
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 4, 2012
11:11 AM

Post #9349638

Good moning all. Sorry I have been AWOL again. I actually just got home from 5 nights in Fiji, with a cold, so now I can see you will all feel very sorry or me! Heh heh. I had my computer, but was just too busy enjoying the sights and people of Fiji, as well as my family, to spend much time catching up, although I did read everyones posts.
I got back o a rather warm day, 1 foot tall grass and gum tree bark everywhere! Hubby and I aleady took care of most of the lawns yesterday afternoon, while it was cool, and I also got the bunker watered, and will water the brom house this morning, and the brom igloo this afternoon. Its good to be home, even though there is work waiting for me. I'd go stir crazy if there wasn't something to be done! The first load of washing is almost done and its only just turned 6am. Its a lovely fifteen degrees this morning!
So, in the pic at the top of this thread, on the top left is Neo. 'Inferno' and top centre is Neo. 'Rosey Morn', centre is Neo. 'De Rolf' which is flowering, so pups will follow.
Everyone has had such lovely things to show, and it sounds as though you have all been busy with either garden make overs, or the usual bromeliad chores of potting up and de-pupping. Its a busy time of year in the brom garden.
Sorry I haven't got any pics yet, but I will take some later in the day and post them tomorrow. I will leave you with a photo of what I had to endure in Fiji.
Sue
ps, Nev, I cringed when I read how you burned yourself. I do hope you have some pain killers to take away the worst of it? Silly duffer! I'm guessing you have been banned from the kitchen?

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 4, 2012
2:25 PM

Post #9349780

Hi everyone – I hope everyone's well, especially those who have been on the sick list like Colleen (I hope your back is well and truly on the mend) and Sue (I hope you've shaken that summer bug off and are on the mend also)

It looks like this computer is getting ready to “spit the dummy” once again as yesterday when I sent off my post, the last one posted was from Bree, but this morning I see there was also one after that posted by Trish. So, sorry I didn't respond to you Trish, but the last time I looked your post wasn't there. I'll never understand this computer, sometimes I think it's human and has changes of moods from time to time.

Trish – At this stage I'll just mention an observation that may be of interest to all you “budding hybridisers”; it's in relation to your first picture, Neo 'Scandal'. As you say the parentage is given as (carolinae x sapiatibensis) but also, the seed parent is Neo. Sapiatibensis (a species).

It's interesting to see that Chester Skotak has used a species (sapiatibensis) as the pollen parent and it is also one of the parents of the seed parent, so there is a “double dose” of species genes in that particular cross. From what I have picked up over the short time I have been studying breeding patterns with the “top hybridisers” it seems to me that all of the good hybridisers such as Chester Skotak and Grace Goode to mention just two, often introduce a species into the breeding pedigree every so often to put some strength and vigor back into the breeding line, so probably a good lesson to be learned here.

Trish you're quite right, I love pic's 2 and 3 but I hope that little Wallaby is on the other side of the fence to the brom's otherwise he might start eating them for lunch. I never cease to be amazed at the brilliant colours of the little Sunbirds and their close relations the Hummingbirds the majority of which come from Central and South America; and no matter what colour the bib around their neck is, it always seems to take on that glistening metallic type of shine.

Shirley – I love your little mini Neo's, especially the variegated one. I was like Bree once and didn't like them either but they have gradually grown on me (not really but you know what I mean) and I have now accumulated quite a good little collection although they're mostly all only pups at this stage. They do have some advantages in that they aren't heavy to move around and most importantly, they don't take up a lot of space, although there are some that are a bit larger than most see (Pic 1).

Wendy – School days, what memories they bring back, I loved primary school as we had wonderful teachers but high school was a different story altogether. We had one teacher there who was a real “mongrel” and unfortunately I managed to get on his wrong side the first time we ever had him and he made high school life a real misery for myself and a couple of other close friends and I couldn't leave soon enough.

What you say about hand feeding the Magpies and Butcher Birds reminds me of what happened here this morning when one of our daily visiting Kookaburras finally took some food from my hand. He had been getting closer each day but always seemed to hesitate at the last minute. He brought one of the “kids” with him this morning as well and he looked like the feathers top of his head were all soft and sticking up like a “crew cut”, but boy could eat, I though his Dad would be exhausted flying back and forth to get food for him.

Your Pic 2 puzzles me a bit with the name of Neo. 'Purple Concentrica', I've never seen it before nor is it on the BCR or the FCBS registers, but the main thing that doesn't ring true is the absence of any of the semi-concentric markings on the foliage which all genuine Neo. Concentricas should have, after all that's where the name comes from. Even the pic of your Neo 'Fury' still shows faint traces of these semi-concentric markings if you study it closely and that is after Neo. Concentrica was used in its breeding line two generations back. I think 'Purple Concentrica' is just a “pet name” someone has given it, and although a nice plant, it's hardly purple and more into the pink tones if the picture colour is accurate.

Your pic's 4 and 5 of Neo. 'Strawberry' x 'Little Africa' show how this plant has inherited the nice wide leaves of Mandela which was a parent of 'Africa' and 'Little Africa' however it seems the Neo. 'Strawberry' influence has diluted the colour to that unusual chocolaty colour in the centre. This plant too displays faint semi-concentric markings which tend to indicate that Neo. Concentrica was used somewhere back in its past breeding as well, but unfortunately a few of the past parents have nothing recorded of their ancestors to support this theory.

Sue – What can I say, here I was feeling sorry for you and you were in Fiji living it up all the time. At least you're now back and all refreshed to tackle all the work that's mounted up while you were away. Incidently, there was one good thing came out of my scald; it was so bloody sore I couldn't feel all the other aches and pains!

Time to go and a few pic's to finish with Pic.1 (not my plant unfortunately) but is a mini Neo. 'Mimi Skirt' (just to show what is possible with this plant), Pic 2 is Neo. 'Serendipity Girl' x 'Concentrica', Pic 3 is Neo 'Royal Cordovan', Pic 4 Neo 'Rosatina' x 'Concentrica' (about 3 feet across) and Pic 5 is a “Sunbird Hybrid”; and by this I mean it's from seed I got from that same lady that Trish bought her plants from in Far North Queensland. The seed parent was Neo. 'Blue Nude' and the pollen parent's name is only known to the Sunbirds who pollinated it. I think it has some possibilities though as it has nice wide, fat leaves and it hopefully will mature into something half decent.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 5, 2012
2:32 AM

Post #9350195

Hi All!

Hi Shirley cute pics of the mini’s you posted, I have Wild Tiger also but boy is it slow to grow and pup, no sign of any pups yet. Yeah Shirley we are definitely going to be busy the rest of the year and I am looking forward to having some good time off to get things done around the garden without being in a rush all the time.

Hi Nev thanks for posting various pics of Nobel Descent and Nobel Descent Too, I think you have identified my brom that was labelled Aussie D Seedling as it looks very much like your Pic 1 of Nobel Descent. I am going to have another closer look over the weekend just to be sure to be sure. Thanks Nev yeah I read that about the Neo Scandal pic I posted the other day that the Seed Parent is Sapiatibensis (a species) I found it very interesting the additional information you kindly provided regarding introducing a species into a breeding pedigree to put some strength and vigor back into the breeding line, definitely a good lesson to be learnt here.

Yeah lucky for my broms Nev that that Wallaby is on the other side of the fence aside from the time spent by our pooches chasing them up and down the yard every day when they come to visit them, the Wallabies are so interested in them almost like they are looking for some company and often Lucy and the Wallaby just sit across the fence looking at each other for hours it seems which always makes me smile. I was really lucky taking the pic of the Sunbird I posted as the battery went flat on my camera as soon as I had taken that photo and I ran inside to put a new battery in to see if the picture had turned out and when I saw it had I was so very pleased.

Nev I really liked the Pic 2 you posted of ‘Serendipity Girl’ x Concentrica, what a standout brom this one is.

Hi Wendy I liked reading your story about the baby magpies that come and visit you for a feed, I have one that visits me every day at work and taps on my window in my office to let me know it wants to be fed, I enjoy seeing it every day and have a water bowl out for all the birds to drink and swim from and they luv it, some don’t realize how deep the bowl is and when they come in for a landing they get just a little bit more than they bargained for in the dunking department which really makes me laugh.

Hi Sue we were wondering where you disappeared to, most people stay at home to get over a summer cold but you really can’t sit still can you lol, not that I blame you escaping to Fiji for the week. The pool pic you posted reminded me so much of the main pool I used to do laps in every morning when we lived on Hamilton Island for 8years, it was such a beautiful pool right by the sea with palm trees, restaurants and shops nearby. Anyway welcome back to reality lol, I am sure you missed your broms and garden heaps.

Hi to everyone else who may be looking in or is on the Sick List. Until next time take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Neo Pink Fairy Floss
Pic 2 Neo Maona Beauty Pup
Pic 3 Pink Ginger Flower to show Nev
Pic 4 Bunch of Pink Ginger Shoots coming out of old Ginger Flower. Nev let me know if you want me to post you some of these to try and grow as I would just cut the bunch off and post to you? If anyone else would like some let me know by all means and I will save you some.
Pic 5 More Temp Shading

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 5, 2012
2:48 AM

Post #9350199

Hi everyone, another sizzler today, not as bad as yesterday but still uncomfortably hot. I noticed a few scorched plants in the garden too. There is rain predicted for next week so I am hoping we will get some this time.

Wendy, after seeing the pics in your post from last night I have added a couple more to the list of plants I would like. Looking forward to Friday.

Sue, and there I was, like Nev, feeling sorry for you (poor Sue, she must be really suffering, she hasn’t posted in days) and there you were, living it up in Fiji :o) Good for you, hope you had a great time and pleased to know that you’re not really crook. You know, I think I can feel a cold coming on ... hmmm …

Nev, love the neo Mini Skirt in your pic 1 and neo Serendipity Girl x Concentrica in pic 2. Hope your burns are healing well.

We are hoping to get a bit of work done in the garden tomorrow if it’s not too hot. Snow in Victoria today, can you believe it.

Anyway, till tomorrow, Shirley

Pic is neo Macho


Trish, when I previewed my post there was a message there saying someone posted while I was typing so I thought I would read it before I sent mine off. 8 years on Hamilton Island … gee, some of you guys have done it tough … just kidding :o)

Love your neo Pink Fairy Floss and the ginger flower in your pic. Trish, if you have any spare ginger shoots, I would like to have a go at growing them.

Thanks, Shirley


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ianperry

December 5, 2012
3:05 AM

Post #9350204

Hi all. Nothing much happening here. Too hot to work outside but did some watering and tried to fertilise Til Velientina. I also collected some pollen from same and froze it following instructions from Garden web. I collected and screened my Ques seed, there are a few there so now I am drying them to make handling easier This is my usual proceedure. I looked at my Ae blanchettiatas and some are almost flowering. 3 spikes that I saw today and a few pups all in full sun.I just planted a few seeds to see if they will germinate. It is a funny thing with Ques that information is scarce. A lot of times here I am in way over my head, I have only been collecting broms for 2 years this coming March, but I have gone at it boots and all .
Wendy I love Neo burle marxii, it is a species and I have been told it is good for hybridising with. Seed parents influence shape and size. Pollen parents influence the colour" Jacob Koning" I need to keep learning and it appears that if I throw enough pollen around i might get a good result accidentally, but if I plan it then I possibly use less pollen. I also like that purple concentrica, wouldn't mind 1 if you ever get a spare, buy or swap I don't care.
Sue, You poor devil having to suffer the sights of Figi and not a brom in sight in that pic. Are you suffering from Brom withdrawls.
Nev I love the cluster of N mini mini skirt, mine has only 2 plants as yet,but that pic shows me what posibles there are. I guess accidents happen. I feel for you.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ananas bracteata in a friends garden.
Pic 2 Ae that i have not searched for name as yet.
Pic 3 Til velietina that I tried to fertilise today.

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perke_patch

December 5, 2012
3:28 AM

Post #9350205

wow Sue.. lucky you recouperating in Fiji. I saw your pics on fb last few nights and it never occurred to me you were over there. I just thought you were finally uploading some pics from a previous trip.
I'm happy to report that Olive thinks they recently took a pup off an ensign andpotted it up so she will check and get backto me. If she has one she will bring it to the xmas party tomorrow night for Michelle to bring home for me. so my customer will be happy if I do get her dad's christmas presents for her.

Shirley, I have a couple pots of neo mini skirt. I love the colours you can get out of it with good light. I also discovered a few pink fairy floss today when finding plants for sales tables. and I took 2 pups and potted them this week also.

Nev I was looking at the purple concentricas today and actually put quite a few on the sales tables as I thought those long thin leaves do not make a nice plant. it is only the lovely colour that is a redeeming feature. so we have some splashes of colour on the sales tables. I never thought about the lack of concentric rings in this plant. I did think the shape was not like other concentrica hybrids so you are probably correct saying it was someone's pet name.

Trish I like your temporary shading. that's ingenious. we realised today that the tree loppers actually took quite a few branches off the big trees down back of next door. we realised that our mothers area is now getting quite a bit of sun. some of the pups are bleaching and many of the mothers are burned but quite a few pups are thriving in the pure sun. I took a heap off to sell as bare rooted pups. there will be some very good bargains. anyway perhaps we should copy your temporary shading. Johnny was thinking he might have to put a shade structure up and be done with it. gee my arms are so painful tonight after cleaning broms all day. and it was so hot down the back under the shadecloth working.

I'm going to turn off now and relax a bit with a magazine and do some puzzles.

Night to you all. hope everyone is fit and healthy and enjoying the weather. hope it doesn't get any hotter.

Wendy
perke_patch

December 5, 2012
3:49 AM

Post #9350212

Ian you posted while I was typing mine. I saw Jack's comment about pollen parent to give colour and seed parent to pass on shape and size. I'm happy to pull a few purple concentricas off the sales tables to share. they do have some amazing colour even if they have thin leaves. the pollen would be good to pass on that colour to a good shaped plant. When cleaning up plants today I can't believe how many I came across with seed pods ready to harvest. I put them in a single area to make a decision next week on whether they are worth doing an F2 of them.

I've been meaning to do something with my spreadsheet for a while to record which of our plants are species and which are hybrids. It would only require adding another column to record s or h. then for h ones I could add parents so another 2 collumns. hmmmm.

anyway Ian if you dmail me your address I'd be happy to send you a purple concentrica and if there are any others you want to make the parcel worth sending let me know. I'll go back through your pics to see if there is anything I want to swap. I'll get back to you on that.

Night
Wendy
perke_patch

December 5, 2012
4:20 AM

Post #9350221

Ian I just went back through last couple months andyou have some nice plants but most of them we have. I did find a till capitata var ???? that I don't have and would love a pup if and when you have one to spare. I can't remember the name but it was a darkish plant. I can't find it again to write it down. It like this yard. you find something by accident and when you go back to get it another day you just can't find the damn thing. thats how it is when someone asks for a certain plant. I know it is here in the yard somewhere but I just can't find it. if it was up to me I'd have all the same plant in same spot or perhaps 2 spots in the yard and show them on mass but Johnny likes a mix of colours so we have them mixed up. I do have one side where I keep all the variegated together or as close to it as I can get. a lot of others have crept in again now so I'm going to take next week to sort them out again while the shelved are relatively emptier than usual.

night again.
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 5, 2012
2:16 PM

Post #9350685

Good morning everyone – Once again it seems like it's going to be a beautiful day and a chance to get out in the yard and finish a few more overdue jobs in the garden.

Trish – Everybody who sees Neo. 'Serendipity Girl' x 'Concentrica' comments on it and wants a bit but unfortunately it's a very slow grower and a bit reluctant to produce much in the way of pups (just enough to make sure I have a spare plant).

I like the colour of your 'Pink Fairy Floss' and I especially like the very pale variegations, most unusual. Do you know that plant is a hybrid from a cross using Neo. 'Pink Sensation' (the same as the one I posted a pic of on Dec 1st.) crossed with a Neo 'Pink Sensation' sibling. It was imported into Australia by Olive Trevor and is possibly the same plant as a Groves hybrid called Neo 'Cotton Candy' in America. http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=10286#10286

Oh and congratulations on your temporary shade set up; so neat and tidy, just like the rest of your garden. Also, thanks for the offer of a bit of your Pink Ginger plant, I would love to try growing it down here and now that I have all the cultural information it doesn't seems such a daunting task

Shirley – I love you beautiful Neo 'Macho', it's a great looking plant, but look at those “teeth” they certainly draw blood very easily, that's why I got rid of my plant.

I found on the BCR that the original plant was identified as “a form of pascoaliana/ carcharodon found in 1983 at a dump site North of Niteroi, Rio de Janeiro. Selected because of colour, large size and compactness! And is part of the Carcharodon Group.”
If you would like to see some other pictures of it go to:
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=5569#5569

Ian – You say you've gone into growing brom's “boots and all” and that's exactly the same as the approach I took when I first started. However as things gathered momentum I found I had to pull in the reins a bit as I was running out of places to accommodate the plants. So I thinned things out a bit and gave away a lot of plants only to then become interested in the seed growing aspect of brom's and then I was right back to “square one” again and running out of space once more. It looks to me you may also be heading down that same path and will soon run out of places to put all of your plants.

Ian you mention Jakob Koning; he's a hybridizer with many "runs on the board" and to see some examples of his wonderful work, go to: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php

When I used to visit the “old” bromeliad section of the Garden Web Forums, Jack Koning along with Lisa Vinzant and many other well respected hybridisers and growers freely gave advice to growers like myself who were new to this hobby. Those forums were and still are, a “wealth of information” and to the best of my knowledge, it's all still contained within their archives.

The plant in your second pic I think is one of the Porteas; possibly Portea Petropolitania var. Extensa as all of mine are in spike now also.

Wendy – As I look more closely at the pic of your Neo.'Pink Concentrica', I think it looks a lot like a hybrid bred from Neo. 'Princeps' which a friend of mine once grew. I'll contact him and see if he still has it and if so try to get a pic I can post. There also seems to be some similarities between it and a “so called” Neo Princeps 'Rainbow' [Special Form] unreg. which I grow, see Pic.1.

I know exactly what you're saying about finding a plant one day and then not being able to find it later. I have often spotted a plant in flower with no name tag (possibly because its identity was unknown) and once identified, I go to get a name tag and pen only to find it seems to have vanished when I return? I guess that's just another of the joys of getting old.

Well that's it for today and Pic 1 is for Wendy, Neo. Princeps 'Rainbow' [Special Form] for comparison with her "Purple Concentrica". The other four pic's are just random shots taken from around the back yard for Trish as she asked to see some of my (so called) garden the other day. Pic 2 is looking from the back deck toward the back of the yard and the old "half dead" Peppercorn Tree, Pic.3 are some Ae Chianti 'Jean' plants hanging on the southern side of the house in the Vriesea shade house. Pic 4 is part of the eastern side of my Neoregelia shade house and Pic 5 is looking toward the northern side fence from the back deck

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 6, 2012
2:14 AM

Post #9351072

Hi Everyone!

Another very muggy day experienced when out and about on the job site today, had to change my shirt when I got back into my office because my shirt was that yuck with sweat, must have been all those stairs I kept going up and down, what a work out, no wonder I really have to push myself to exercise when I get home from work, when I already feel like I have already done enough exercise for the day and feel utterly exhausted, but I do it for the dogs because otherwise they miss out on the exercise and that would not be fair on them. Anyway it was nice once I got back into the air-conditioning, shirt changed and rehydrated.

Hi Wendy pleased to hear you liked the other temp shade area I constructed, it’s great because I really only need it to last the summer and then come winter I will remove all the panels and store away in our shed for the following year. It is so easy to put up, I just zip tie a long panel to the fence, cut the long panel into smaller panels with a good pair of garden scissors and use a wooden tomato stake as a ruler, once all my panels are cut I staple the wooden tomato stakes to the ends and hold them in place with tent pegs. The panels overlap nicely which is great so no harsh sunlight gets in. Usually on a Friday when I get home from work I unlatch each panel and throw each panel over the fence and they just hang there, I then give all my broms a good sprinkle and don’t cover them up until about 11am on the Saturday, and then we do the same thing all over again on Sunday so at least we get to see the broms and work amongst them for a couple of days before we go back to work and have to cover them up for the week. We also have the irrigation line we put in place recently that makes life so much easier during the week where we don’t have to hand water till the weekend as time is very limited for us during the week as much as I do find hand watering very relaxing.

Hi Shirley yeah it was a hard life living on Hamilton Island for 8 years lol, we really miss the fishing, boating and snorkeling big time but at the end of the day we were very restricted with space in the unit we rented even though the view was magnificent I really missed having a proper garden and we really disliked not being able to have pets other than goldfish (most of the goldfish I adopted were deformed), one day I will have to tell you all a funny story about what happened to one of the deformed goldfish called “Beaker” that I had lol. So after 8 years we were chomping at the bit to buy another home aside from the investment properties we had in Townsville already. We have sold one of the investment properties to take a bit of pressure off as they are very exhausting to keep especially given how Real Estate Agent are now days; they just don’t care and we feel like we are the one’s running around doing what we pay them for given the hefty commission they charge. Sometimes we talk about getting rid of the investment property but the timing is not right as we just would not get what we want for it right now so we will wait a couple of more years and see. It’s nice where we live now as we are only a few minutes’ walk from the beach which is great.

Hi Nev thanks for the wonder insight to Neo Pink Fairy Floss, I will jump into that link as soon as I send this thread.


Nev my sincere apologies for not saying get well soon with the burn marks you sustained with that bloody kettle of yours, anyway I hope you are healing and are not too uncomfortable, I can imagine it would have hurt like hell and very lucky it did not get you in the face – very ouchy-mumma all the same.

Nev thanks for the kind complements regarding the other temp shade structure I put up, it works wonders.

Nev / Shirley, really pleased to hear you guys would like some of the Pink Ginger plant, Nev I have all your postal details now thanks because today we received the parcel you sent and want to thank you very, very much for going to all that trouble, HUGE thanks also from Joe for the beautiful Orchids, he will cherish them and we will post a pic as soon as they flower. Shirley can you please D-Mail me also with your postal details when you get a chance. I should be able to get the Pink Ginger plants posted to you both before Xmas and Shirley I will also include the same Cultural Notes that I sent to Nev on growing Gingers and Heliconias as you may find the information useful. What I plan to do is cut the bunch off of gingers you would of seen in the pic I posted the other day and send the whole bundle in the mail to you both, when you receive these you can split them up if you wish by gently prying them apart from one another (no need to use a knife or cutters) as they come away from one another very easily and can be potted up either in groups or individually or just plant straight out into the garden in a semi-shaded spot, but not in full shade or full sun. I have never posted these before but they should hopefully travel ok if I wrap them right with nice moist newspaper. Anyway I hope that they grow for you both and if they die for some reason just let me know and we can try again as many times as it takes as I always have spare little plants of these and they do not take long to grow if give the right environment and care.

Oh and Nev before I forget those pics you kindly posted of around your garden and nurseries are AMAZING, so organized, clean and full of color, I only wish I could have blown them up even more like 100% to take a closer sticky-beak lol. I can really see how much time you spend tending to everything as everything looks perfect and you should be very proud of yourself for doing such a great job even though when it’s a hobby it’s always a labor of love and we get such great personal reward from the time we all spend in our gardens. I know everyone would agree. I know where I would prefer to be in my garden rather than sweating it out at work, funny that I never complain when I sweat it out in the garden as it’s my happy place.

Apologies, no pics tonight as I need to take some more on the weekend.

Time to take the girls for a walk.

Take care, speak to you all soon and hi to all who may be looking in or could be posting while I am sending this?

Happy Gardening!

Trish

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 6, 2012
5:20 AM

Post #9351122

Hi all, we didn’t get much done today in the yard as it was another very hot day. I did some watering this morning and we had to take our Rebel to the vet this arvo for his annual Heartworm injection.

Trish, sounds like you felt the heat at work today, bet you are pleased the week is almost over. You are very lucky to live so handy to the beach. I will Dmail you my postal details and I look forward to receiving the ginger plants, thanks heaps.

I am looking forward to getting amongst Wendy and Johnny’s broms tomorrow, before their sale officially begins on the weekend.

Nothing much else happening so I will see what pics I can find to post and call it a night.

Hope anyone who is crook or injured is on the mend.

Bye for now, Shirley


Pic 1 is neo Spot On Pic 2 is neophytum Gallactic Warrior

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perke_patch

December 6, 2012
5:51 AM

Post #9351144

Hi everyone.
Just a quick one tonight as we didn't come inside till about 7pm then had to cook, eat and clean so late getting on and then Johnny decided he wanted to see all the old pics from around Redlands. that's the fb group I got stuck looking at the other night. I was in trouble for not showing him the pics so ...

Nev your princeps pic 1 certainly does look like my purple concentrica. maybe a few more teeth (or more pronounced spines) than mine but same colour and shape. anyway it should make a good pollen parent to pass on that amazing colour which is what Ian wants it for I imagine. I looked at my garden through new eyes today with that pollen parent = colour and seed parent = size & shape. I was looking at plants thinking "good pollen parent" or "good seed parent" but no time to do anything about it. my arms are so painful after 2 days dead leafing for our sale. A bit 'ouchy' to get in the bath shortly I think. So glad this will be the last sale for this year. We must thin out our collection I think (yeah as if I hear you all say). anyway we have some amazing specials for Christmas so Shirley will probably take home a car full tomorrow. This time next year she'll be thinking "I must thin out my collection. It's just too big now" LOL

So tired tonight. I'm just waiting for Johnny to finish in the bathroom and I'm off for a good soak for a while before bed. He's out so I'll say goodnight now.

Wendy

splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 6, 2012
11:35 AM

Post #9351389

Good morning once again – It looks like it's back to just three of us once again; gee I wish the others would hurry up and finish their Christmas shopping. I'm being dragged off shopping today myself, not because I want to but because our fridge blew up yesterday and we have to try and find the best deal on a new one. My wife (like my daughter) just won't accept that “price haggling” is now the “norm” in Australia and they'll just accept whatever is on the price ticket, they are a salesman's dream, but not this “old rooster” I'll wring every last drop out of those “blood suckers”, anyway wish me luck.

Trish – You say you were out on the building site, are you really the true “Bob the Builder” incognito?

Trish I'll look forward to the Ginger arriving and as far as the be way to send it, I think if you send it the same way as I send brom's would work OK, I'll send you some notes. I have been using this method for a few years now and never a problem.

You say you liked my garden; well let me say I went to a lot of trouble taking pic's that don't clearly show all the weeds. Unfortunately I'm not as mobile as I once was and a lot of the gardening jobs are not getting done as well as they should be, but I try and muddle on, and I do still enjoy gardening very much and the best part is that there's always something new to see each day.

Also, I can't wait to hear the story of the deformed goldfish called “Beaker”.

Shirley – You've managed to post pic's of two of my favourite plants.

Even though they're not as popular as they once were, I still like all of the spotted types of Neo's and still have quite a collection of them and I'm still breeding a few as well as I think like all things, plants go in and out of fashion, and sooner or later the fashion will have gone the full circle and finished back where it started.

Galactic Warrior is another of my firm favourites, I have a couple which I manage to grow reasonably well but nowhere near as good as the bloke in America who wrote an article about them in one of the Brom. Journals. His plants were magnificent basket specimens and were almost two feet across (enormous plants). His secret (or so he said) requires dedication to stick rigidly to a feeding programme, but he never said what type of fertiliser he used. His method was to use it at half strength every single time he watered all through the year. His theory was that we have to eat regularly and so should bromeliads. He just used the same commercial Cymbidium potting mix that he used for his Neo's and Aechmeas and was adamant that it was the feeing programme that gave him these great results. I keep promising myself to try this method but never seem to get around to it, so maybe one of you on this forum would like to give it a go and let's know how good it is.

Wendy – It will be interesting to see what sort of babies the “Purple Concentrica” produces with Ian's breeding. Hybridising is such an interesting hobby and although you do everything by the book, it's never possible to predict the outcome with any certainty as Mother Nature is the “unknown quantity” and has a habit of stepping in to change things. Not only that, but as I've always said, you never know if an ant has beat you to the punch and pollinated the flower with some foreign pollen before you do your bit; and that's what makes it so interesting.

A good example of this is the little Neo seedling I posted on 4th Dec (Pic.5), it came from seed where the mother plant was all that was known (Neo. 'Blue Nude') the pollinating had been done by Sun Birds who had a pick of many great brom's to use as pollen parents. When I was offered the seed (several different batches) I knew it was a gamble, but given the quality if this grower's other plants I didn't hesitate as I reckoned I had pretty good odds of getting a good'un. That plant is just the first from all of these resulting plants (about two hundred in total) so there could still be some nice surprises to come yet.

A big “Cheerio” to all those not posting and get well wishes to anyone who's still on the “sick list”.

Today I'll finish with a few more pic's which I took around the back yard yesterday; Pic.1 is on the eastern side of a shade house that contains a mixture of Neoregelias. Billbergias, Nidulariums, Vrieseas, Patterned Foliage Vrieseas, Orthophytums as well as some Neoregelia seedlings. Pic 2 is looking under some green shade cloth where there is a frog pond and various other bromeliad genera. Pic.3 is on the lower part of the yard looking back toward our house and the brom's around what's left of the old Peppercorn Tree with a large clump of Neo 'Sheeba” on the left. Pic 4 is the right side of the Frog Pond showing a few sun hardened plants with Neo 'Skotak's Tiger' in the centre, Ae. 'Bert' on the left and Neo. 'Cruenta' on the right. Finally Pic 5 shows a few Neoregelias hanging in front of a bench containing various Aechmeas.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 6, 2012
11:54 AM

Post #9351398

Good Morning everyone, I am hoping I can get around to replying to all the things I've read lately.
Ok, Trish, I have quite a few Aechmea blanchettiana pups, both the green form and the orange form. Most are quite large, but I think I can manage to package one for you ok. A swap with N. 'Kismet' would be great.
Wow, I agree living on hamilton Island must have been beautiful. I didn't realise people actually lived there, as I thought it was a resort island.
I love your pink Gingers. I bought a few of those little off shoots home in May, after a trip to Townsville, but it must have been the wrong time of year to strike them,as they didn't survive very long at all. I saw them growing in Fiji, just out in the middle of the bush!
I can relate to how you feel when you get home on the weekend, and get to spend time in the garden. I am fortunate enough to be semi retired now, and can tell you its a dream to be able to paly with my plants and garden every day.
Shirley, I have Aechmea 'Rodco' inverta, but I sold the first few pups, then left the last two on, which are now a bit big to be called pups, but a little ways off being mature. If you stil haven't sourced one by the time mine are pupping, I am only too happy to send one up to you. I find them quite tricky to get started rom a pup, so usually leave them on the parent and let them take over the pot. Has anyone else found them tricky?
Wendy, have a good sale day tomorrow, and I hope you get enough time to chat to friends and customers without feeling rushed. I am going to do another sale next week, but am going to advertise in the paper this week, with my phone number and see if I cant get some pre-sale appointments, as its much nicer having people around individually, then they can have a really good look at the plants, and around the garden, if they wish.
Nev, how are your burns? Are you having them dressed or just drying them out?
I too, think your garden pictures are a credit to you. Haing seen your place in person, I can attest to how tidy it is, and just a pleasure to walk through and have a look around. My favourite part was the back right corner, in the shed with the box in the centre, where you dropped down the sides. Do you have names for each part? I have 'the brom House', 'the bunker' and now, 'The new one' It will get a better name eventually, especially if I build another (when I build another)
Ian, I have never really looked at the Quesnelias for seed either, and liked the way you posted the photos for us to take a look. I have scored a huge pot of some sort of Quesnelia, with old dried flowers, but will need welders gloves to get in and break it up. Your place must be filling up very quickly, and I wonder how your housemates/family are coping? I guess, like the family and housemtes of the rest of us, they just have to!
Bree, my variegated A. blanchettiana is coming into flower. It has had one pup, which went to Tash, and now it has another, which I intend to pot up, but when it gets another, I will keep you in mind if you are interested. I must take the pup off soon, as one it is flowering, it will get top heavy and the combined weight of the flower and pup will see it tipping over, and me, forever standing it back up.
Hello to anyone looking in, and anyone not feling well. My cold is a good one! Got everything going for it, runny nose, tickling cough and everything! I always get one when I travel by plane. Breathing recirculated air for 4 hours, at very low temperatures, shared with a couple of hundred passenegers, some with hacking coughs and the sneezes is a sure way to get sick!
Anyway, at least I don't have to go to work!
Photo one is an unknown Tillandsia coming into flower
Photo two is Tillandsia duratii var saxatilis, which I've managed to keep alive for quite some time now.
Photo three is Aechmea 'Freckles' in the morning sun
Photo four is Aechmea 'JC Superstar', which has coloured up nicely
Photo five is an unknown Guzmania in the garden.
Sue





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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 7, 2012
11:28 AM

Post #9352305

Wow, thats never happened before! No one been on all night?
Hi Nev, you posted just before me yesterday. I potted up some of the large seedlings from you, yesterday, and took some photos. I think i will be planting them out in the garden, as they will be quite large I think.
On thursday, I repotted all my Cryptanthus in African violet mix. I only have four varietes, C. bivattatus, C. 'Ruby' (thanks Jen), C. 'Lime Frost' (yawn) and C. Osyrus, which is a beauty. It will be interesting to see how they do.
I also potted a heap of pups that I removed when transporting all the plants home.There are still several left to pot, as well as about 20-30 Aechmea blanchettiana pups. My concern is...where to put them?
Have fun at your sale today, Wendie.
Trish, enjoy your weeken at home.
Shirley, I hope the weather is kind to you, and you find a bargain while out brom shopping.
Ian, I'm still checking that seed, and it is almost ripe!
Happy gardening all, and hello to Karen, Jen, Tash, Jean and any lurkers looking in.
Sue
Photo one is Xportmea 'Luis Ariza Julia'
Photo two is Portea leptantha x A. blanchettiana
Photo three is A. eurycorymbus
all seedlings from Nev, an getting good colour
Photo four is labelled Guzmania whittmackii purple x sanguinea, and it has a few white lines in the leaves
photo five is the Cryptanthus collection, with old mother C 'Ruby' on the left, C. 'Lime frost' at the rear, C. 'Osyrus' at the front (with size 9 Jandal for comparison) and a pot of C. bivattatus to the right
Sue


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 7, 2012
11:54 AM

Post #9352322

Good morning one and all; here we are another day closer to Christmas as the “Silly Season” gathers momentum. The weather continues to be good down here although they have forecast a “wet one” next week.

Cheerio to anyone who's still on the “sick list” and get well soon. To all of those who have stopped posting, drop in and at least say “g'day” even if you don't have any brom news or pictures.

Well I guess it's just you and me today Sue, gee we are getting “thin on the ground” aren't we?

Seeing you mention Ae. Blanchetianas, I have to tell you the bad news that I took a load of large Aechmea seedlings to the tip yesterday simply because the were taking up too much space and these types don't do particularly well down here anyway.

They were all of the larger types (about 30” high) and consisted of Aechmeas Blanchetiana (Red foliage), Blanchetiana (yellowish foliage), Emmevichiae, Forest Fire, xPortmea 'Luis Ariza Julia' and Eurycorymbus. They were from American seed which had came from a well known grower and while they were all nice plants albeit with a bit of winter “cold spotting” on the foliage, they were just too large to fit into my garden or gardens of any of my friends. I couldn't sell them as everyone wants “instant flowers” and besides, everyone's money is used up buying Christmas presents anyway. As much as I would have liked to, it wasn't even worthwhile offering them to anyone here as the postage costs would have been astronomical.

Probably a good lesson for “seed growers” to be learned here, don't plant too much seed, as they will all grow into adult plants eventually and the bigger they get, the harder it is to “toss” them. I did though keep a couple of each type with better coloured foliage and even then found it hard to find space for these also.

You say you find Ae. Rodco inverta a bit slow to grow from pup, I too have found the same with an Aechmea 'Mend' inverta; even the pup of Rodco inverta I got from you (even though it was a good size) just seemed to sulk for the first year just the same as my plant of Ae 'Mend' did, although it's put on a bit of a “spurt” now and I'll push a bit of feed into it to keep it moving along. This seems to be a common trait with all of the Ae leuddemannia c.v.'s although Ae 'Pinkie' seems to be a better grower although it's nowhere near as good colour-wise as the other c.v.'s.

From the main batch of cultivated varieties produced by Ae. leuddemannia, the best for colour are 'Alvarez', 'Mend', 'Mend' inverta, 'Rodco' and 'Rodco' inverta. In my opinion, the real “stand-out” from this group would have to be 'Alvarez', the colouring is magnificent and it's a real “eye catcher”, unfortunately after several attempts I haven't had any success with it down here as it obviously very much resents the colder winters.

Thank's for asking about the scald; it's a bit sore now that it's healing. I've always been a fast healer, although it does have it's drawbacks inasmuch as the new skin as it grows, sticks to the dressing which has to be soaked off each day to stop it bleeding, however I'm sure I'll live; after all it was only about 1% body area(about the same area as my hand) that was scalded, but not real pleasant just the same.

Things have changed a bit since you and Bill were down here last, (when are you coming down again?) but I still have the same Neo shade house with the seedling area in the middle with the “lift up” sides. It's nothing special and was built mainly just as a way to best use the available space, but it is hard to describe and I'll have to try and get some pic's so our other “brom mates” understand what we are talking about. As for area names, I've only named the various seedling areas and they start at the “Maternity Ward” and progress through the “Pre-school”, “Kindergarten”, “Primary School” before finishing at the “High School”.

I took the liberty of asking a friend who is a Tillandsia grower, if he could identify the Till you showed in your first picture yesterday. He said: “Hi Nev, Looks like Till. velutina – see attachments.” (Pic 1 and 2)

I was just getting ready to post and see that you've beaten me to it yet again Sue. It's good to see at least two of us are "pulling our weight" ... Ha! Ha! (just joking).

That's a nice coloured Portea leptantha x A. blanchettiana on the right of your pic.2. Good to see they are growing well for you. I sent a few others (when they were smaller) to "brom mates" around the country also and it will be interesting to see how they turn out too. (Ain't seed growing interesting?)

I'll finish now with some pic's once again. Pic's 1 and 2 are Till. Velutina (from my friend), and Pic. 3 is Sue's pic of her Till for comparison. Pic's 4 and 5 are of different colour forms of Ae. Alvarez just to show how nice they really are. They're taken from the internet and are not my pictures or plants, but I can still dream can't I? .

All the best, Nev.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 7, 2012
5:07 PM

Post #9352563

Hi all, very quickly ... we have no internet service again.

Bye for now, Shirley
ianperry

December 7, 2012
6:11 PM

Post #9352620

Hi all just popping in to say I,m still here.Brrn cleaning up yard and hoping to do some more building soon. I need some more shade areas for my plants. I have also cleaned up some garbage on my computer. Hopefully this willl speed it up.
I potted up some Bil pink patches andBil fantasia seedlings yesterday.Now for the hard work, keeping them alive so that they will grow. First attempt with so many different seedlings. I will find out what i can handle with time and adjust to it.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Bil fantasia
Pic 2 Bil Noid
Pic3 Bil NOid
Pic 4 Bil Delicoso
Pic 5 Bil Bil Harland

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 7, 2012
6:30 PM

Post #9352633

Well ~ I will bore everyone as the posts have gotten slow. For the most part, I've hung with everyone and enjoyed the photos and hearing about the different areas everyone lives in and most of all, learning a lot about these lovely bloomers. Thanks to all for their contributions.

I do miss Karen posting and hope she is doing all right.

Nev ~ on your burn, I am glad it is on the mend. I found (the hard way) that compresses of vinegar ease the pain when it is a fresh scald. Worth remembering as it is hard to run cold water on some locations.

We are in the shorter, cooler days of winter. I've moved what few plants I have in the greenhouse under shadecloth and am making some interesting observations.

It appears to me that these plants have a clearly defined growing season not related to the warmth or sun. I have an assortment of Aechmea, one Neo, dyckia, orthophytum, cryptbergia and billbergias as well as a selection of cryptanthus.

They have visibly perked up, colored up and begin to grow. I am also seeing a couple of blooms and pups. I had wrongly assumed that they would grow as a normal plant during our normal growing season. As I've been following these posts, I have the notion that is incorrect and the plants are growing according to their own rhythms. Any thoughts? Kristi

A few Cryptanthus photos... Pink Zebra, Pixie, Pink Starlite, Volcano and Hawaiian Sunset

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 8, 2012
3:37 AM

Post #9352796

Hi Everyone!

Yes finally it’s the weekend, so very pleased the weeks over because it was a big one and I am utterly exhausted, I have noticed this heat is really knocking me around this year compared to last for some reason, maybe it’s just because I am getting older or maybe it’s those bloody stairs I climb up and down most days, all I know is that it really takes it out of me by the end of the week and I want to find a happy place to hide from everyone including exercise, but I suppose a day out in the garden is better than any other exercise as far as I am concerned and funny that I always seem to have an exuberant amount of energy for gardening and that I never complain.

Hi Nev, nah I am really not the true “Bob the Builder” incognito lol even though I do have to wear long sleeve shirt, pants, safety boots and safety helmet when I am out on our job Sites. My original background is Mechanical Engineering, but when we moved to Qld I became very interested in Contract Management so started working with Contracts when I took a job with Hamilton Island Enterprises and worked in the Concessionaires Dept., then when we left Hammo I got into the Construction Industry with my background and started working as a Contracts Administrator and have been doing this for about 8 + years now except instead of being in the Construction Industry which is very unstable at present with not much Construction Projects going on and companies struggling to win work because there is less to pick and choose from. So I am now working in the Mining Industry which is far more fruitful at present given the slump is over and I find it to be more secure, rewarding and comes with great benefits. Anyway contractually I look after our Civil, Electrical and Mechanical sections for the company I work for. I find the Mining Industry far less stressful than the Construction Industry and am proud to say I have a life now and get to spend quality time with my hubby which is great.

Nev thanks for sharing more wonderful shots of your beautiful garden, I can’t see any weeds; you did a great job hiding them with those camera angels lol. You know the excuse I use in my garden when I have weeds is that some of the grass that comes up in my herb garden I keep because the dogs like to eat it for when they have an upset tummy etc. Although I do feel really badly if I do totally weed the garden because they have nothing to chew on if they do need to eat some, so I make sure I keep a patch for them here and there in the same spot and they are great at knowing exactly where to find some to graze on. I am such a good mummy to them. But I did notice today that they have more than they need growing in my herb patch and if I am not careful I could soon be starting up a turf farm business lol.

Nev great to hear you would like me to post you some Pink Ginger; I will get them in the mail to you as soon as I can (hopefully before Xmas). Yeah that would be great if you could pass on advice regarding packaging things correctly, I would find this information very useful indeed.

Nev I promise to tell my Goldfish story over my Xmas break as I think I have gone overboard with this long winded thread already and probably bored everyone.

Hi Shirley, yes I am very pleased it is the weekend and am also very pleased that you would like me to post you some Pink Ginger, yeah by all means D-Mail you with your details and I will get them in the mail to you as soon as I can (hopefully before Xmas like with Nev’s).

Shirley, bugger – sorry to hear you are experiencing internet problems again, hope the issue gets resolved real soon given the time of year and bad timing for same issue to continue, you must be well and truly over the service provider you use.

Hi Sue great thanks for the swap offer of Ae. Blanchettiana for Neo Kismet, any change of the swap being the Orange form rather than Green form or am I stretching our friendship too far? The reason I am partial to the Orange form is to inject more colour into our garden as presently we have a lot of green in the garden in the form of hedges, palms and gingers and heliconias everywhere, hence why I luv collecting broms being that they are so very colourful even when they are not in flower, but I don’t have very many just green type broms as I try to avoid them because I prefer instant colour rather than having to wait for a green brom to flower.

Yeah Sue it was a hard life living on Hamilton Island lol. There is heaps of staff living on the island, when we lived there, there were at least a couple of thousand staff that lived on the Island in accommodation, there would be heaps more now especially given new resort accommodations they have built and additional shops and restaurants they now have. Even Hayman Island has staff living there and some of them use underground style tunnels to get around so you hardly see them apart from the ones in the restaurants, shops, water sports etc. We enjoy going to Hayman Island because it is quieter especially if you are staying only for a long weekend, it gives you time to unwind and relax.

Sue really luved you’re Pic 4 of JC Superstar, can this one take a fair bit of sun?

Hi Ian you sound like you have been very busy cleaning and potting up seedlings. You also sound like you are going to be very busy building more shade structures; you will have to show us the finished product. I tend to build temp shade structures just to get over the summer period as our back yard is too long to be putting anything permanent in without encroaching too much of the garden / lawn area. I liked all your Bill pics by the way.

Hi Bree where are you are you OK??? Talkie Talkie to us as we miss hearing from you and seeing your brom pics; plus you still have not got back to me with your D-Mail details.

Hi and BIG Welcome Newcomer Kristi from Texas, so this sounds like the first time you have posted to this forum but you say you have been looking in and reading our threads which is great to hear, which means you should be used to us by now and by the looks of things we have not scared you off which is great lol. Hopefully you will get as much enjoyment out of joining in with our discussions and our lives as I do, I can assure you will not be disappointed as this forum is wonderful and an absolute wealth of information from some people in the forum how have been collecting for years and some of us who have been collecting for a couple of years. I have learnt so much since joining this year and learn something new every day and I really adore all the people I get to chat with when I can, hence why my threads are so long because I do not always get to thread during the week, mostly on the weekends. I really liked all the pics you posted, your broms appear to be doing really well by the looks of things and you sound like you are collecting a few different types which is great to hear. I am the same I collect a bit of everything but really luv collecting mostly Vrieseas and Neorgelieas as these are my favourites. I only have a couple of the Crypt type broms and I only know the name of one because Ian kindly identified it for me as ‘IT’. Anyway Kristi welcome aboard and hope to hear from you sometime in the not too distant future.

We spent most of today spring cleaning the house before our visitors arrive which was a bit of a drag but the house looks so much better organised and this means I have less cleaning to do over the festive break. Friday night was spent putting up our purple fibre optic Xmas tree and hanging decorations around the house and we turned into kids by the end of the evening and went a little bit overboard with the tinsel (apologies to Lexi for dog abuse) but we are proud to say it now feels like Xmas and if we had a chimney Santa Clause would definably come to visit lol.

Tomorrow we are off to Bunnings to buy more brom mix, pots etc as I have some more broms to pot up as per the pics below.

Hi to everyone else who may be looking in or is on the Sick List. Until next time take care everyone, speak soon and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Lucy waiting to open her first present under the tree from a friend
Pic 2 Lexi – attack of the purple tinsel – what a bad mum I am
Pic 3 Vr. Snows of Mauna Kea F2
Pic 4 Vr. Fosteriana White Bands F2
Pic 5 Ae. Pinkie

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 8, 2012
12:41 PM

Post #9353134

too funny Trish! It doesn't look as though Lexi minded the tinsel too much! Lucy looks very excited about Xmas. I am very behind with it here, and haven't even done my Xmas cards. Maybe I should fix that today? We get a farm grown tree each year, mainly bcause it smells so nice, and I don't do much decorating these days, as its fairly quiet here at Xmas, mostly. I used to do Xmas light through the garden, and santa hanging from the roof, but not anymore.
I am happy to oblige you with an Orange Blanchettiana pup. Its all the same to me. If you should happen to get any stray pups from C. 'It' in the future, I wouldn't say no to one. Dmail me with your postage details,and I'll sort out a blanchy today and post tomorrow, so you can have one for Xmas. Keep it in the shade this summer and introuce it to sun in the winter, and that should see it acclimatise to full sun without burning.
A. 'JC Superstar' can take quite a bit of sun. I have experimented with alot of Aechmeas, and find that those with colour in the leaves seem quite sun tolerant, but are usually a little bit cold tender, not that that would matter up your way.
Your new plants look very nice, especially the Vrieseas.
Hello Kristi, nice to hear from you. I see your concern for Karen, and have had the same concerns myself, but see the odd comment on FB, ad over in the tea room, so think she is ok? Maybe just too many places to post these days, and it all takes time.
Your collection of Crypts are very colourful. I have a couple but find them a bit finnicky to grow. How have you managed so well?
You ask about the growing seasons, and I have always found that come spring, they begin to show signs of activity, with alot ofAechmeas flowering then, summer sees the Neos begin to flower, and in Winter, near the end, the Billbergias take over. Guzmanias and Vrieseas seem to be from spring to summer. You would be coming into your winter now, yes? How cold does it get where you are?
Nev, winter sees a bit of marking on the big Aechmeas here too, and I kept your large seedlings in the hot house over winter, but next winter they will definitey be too large and will have to cope in the great outdoors. I have a spot that 'I think' might be protected enough, so we shall see. What a shame you have had to dump most of them. I am guilty of binning broms too, as there comes a point when you ask yourself, are they worth anything...to me or anyone else?
I am glad your scald is healing ok. I guess it gives you an insight into anyone suffering more than 1% burns!
That picture of Tillandsia velutina looks right on the money! I see that one in Bunnings from time to time, and never purchase it because I couldn't remember if I had it or not. I got it confused with T. velickiana. Now I will have to go see which one I DID purchase from Bunnings. The one I posted was bought from local grower who doesn't know the names. I love my Tills, and get excited about flowers, mostly because it might mean seed, and I can try and grow them on the trees e.t.c.
Thank you for going to the trouble of finding out the ID, and including the pictures. You're a gem.

I am glad its not just me having the problems with the A. lueddemanniana types then. The first A. 'Rodco' inverta I was given was potted, and it grew into a giant, with the best colouring I have seen amongst the cultivars I have. I might pot up the two remaining plants today and see if the warmer weather will help get them moving. I also have A. 'Alvarez' but it never seems to reach the size or coouring of Rodco
Ian, you are so busy! I think if you should ever sit down too long, those seeds you've collected in your pocket will sprout and grow over you, and everyone will go, 'Wheres Ian?' and then 'I don't know, but look at that lovely clump of Bromeliads' heh heh. I am glad you are obviously getting so much enjoyment from the experience. Your Billbergia collection looks great.
Well, nothing done yesterday, as it was the annual motorcycle toy run, and hubby and I rode with some friends and had a wonderful time, meeting new people and doing something nice for the community. We were stuffed when we got home, so didn't do much except pick up a few fronds and bits of bark e.t.c. and then watered. Of course, it rained overnight, but thats ok.
Hello to anyone looking in. Take a leaf out of Kristis book, and post a comment. It will be lovely to meet new addicts.
Sue
Photo 1 is Alcantarea brasiliana (are you sick of seeing it yet?)
Photo 2 is Alc. 'Silver Plum' looking very silvery.
Photo 3 is mostly about the Orchid, but there are broms too!

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 8, 2012
1:13 PM

Post #9353148

Hi everyone – hasn't the week gone quickly? It'll soon be Christmas...and then Easter ….and then Christmas ….and then Easter, and it just comes around faster and faster.

Shirley – So sorry you're on the “Telstra Turntable” once again, been there, done that. Don't muck around talking to people who obviously don't know what they are doing; demand to speak to the supervisor like my wife did after several hours of phone calls which offered no helpful remedy. The supervisor had it all fixed in about twenty minutes... Good Luck and hope to see you posting again soon.

Kristi – Great to see you dropping in again, I thought you'd given us away as we haven't heard from you for so long; and nice of you to share pic's of your beautiful Crypt's with us.

I too had wondered what had become of Karen as we haven't heard from her for so long, maybe Wendy can fill us in on what's happening as I thing she lives somewhere nearby I think.

Thanks for the treatment advice for burns, I had heard of that years ago but have never had the need to use it and of course when it happened to me, all I could think of was my ambulance training; get the clothes of quickly because while ever they're on they're acting like a hot poultice; and then lots and lots of cold water. After I had cooled it down though I used a product called “Burn Aid Gel” in which the active ingredient is Melaleuca Oil which comes from one of the many species of our native “Ti Trees” and which has an essential oil with anti-biotic and anti-fungal properties. The results were spectacular, and the pain stopped within a couple of minutes and I know from now on there will always be a tube of this in the medicine cupboard.

You have posted some pic's of truly beautiful coloured Cryptanthus. I especially like the first one I think the colour combination is amazing. Whatever the amount of light you are growing them in must be exactly right as I've never seen such colour in Crypt's in our area. There's another nice one which although to my knowledge isn't available in Australia, you should be able to get easily in your country and it's called Crypt. 'Lisa Vinzant'. See Pic.1 which was originally posted here on Dave's Garden in 2007 by my brom friend Chanin Thurot from Thailand who was the hybridiser.

Finally, all I'd like to say Kristi, is don't leave it so long before you visit us again as it's always good to hear from our brom friends in other countries.

Trish – Wow! An engineer no less; never thought we'd have an engineer growing brom's let alone posting on here with our little group, and it just goes to show what a wide following brom's really have due to their they appeal to many different people from all walks of life and from many different countries world wide.

Trish I did Email you some info. about packing plants for post but I think I sent the wrong file so I've sent the right one to you this morning. Also the offer goes to anyone else on here also, and if you would like a copy of those notes, just D-Mail me your Email address.

You asked Sue whether J.C. Superstar can take a fair bit of sun. I don't know about Sue in her area, but in my experience it will take all the sun it can get when grown beneath 75% beige or 50% green shade cloth. As for direct sun, down here it will take it all except except the very hot summer sun in the middle of the day and early afternoon. It does need the strong light to give it the colour and if grown in low light is just a “nothing plant”.

I also like your pic's as usual, especially the ones of your two very happy and well cared for “doggy mates”

I have to finish now as we're taking our grandsons to the Illawarra Light Railway Museum today for some steam train rides to let them see how it used to be in the “old days”. This reminds me of an incident which occurred one "steaming day" at the museum some time ago; the steam train was in the station and a little girl was looking at it and she said to me , “it must be very old”. When I told here it was the same age as me and asked how old she thought it was, she answered, “Gee is it a hundred”? That really made me feel young (I don't think).

Sue - You've done it again; just as I was about to hit the "send" button the message comes up to say someone else has posted and I had to put the brakes on.

That Alc. Brasiliana is getting enormous and you will definitely need a ladder and chain saw when the time comes to cut off the old spike.

I very much like your Alc. 'Silver Plum'; I have a smaller one than yours which I grew from a little three inch grass pup I was given. It was so small and it was winter time when I got it and I didn't give it much of a chance, but it survived and when the warmer weather came it really started to grow.

I like your orchid; is it Brassia Verrucosa? I have a similar one growing in a large terracotta saucer which flowers every year at about this time. It's in spike now but the flowers haven't opened yet and I'll probably post a pic when it flowers.

Pic.1 today is for Kristi and is Crypt. 'Lisa Vinzant' which was hybridized, grown and photographed by Chanin Thurot of Thailand. Pic.2 and 3 are a couple of Neo. seedling culls in the front garden just to show there's even something worthwhile looking at in "cast-offs", Pic.4 is Billbergia Rosea showing the silvery seed pods starting to form and Pic.5 is Aechmea Fasciata purpurea.

All the best, Nev.

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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

December 8, 2012
2:19 PM

Post #9353173

Hi everyone. Such a lot of reading and drooling going on here. What absolutely beautiful pics from everyone. I thought that my broms were looking very good and colouring up well, but boy, they still have a long way to go. Sorry I have been AWOL for so long. I have such a lot of jobs to catch up on around here and they seem to be neverending. Broms, Brugs and cacti. I need a few little elves around to do the menial jobs like weeding and deadheading. Maybe Santa will bring me a few. Everything is going along fine here. Gee Nev I do hope your burns are healing well. So easy to do though. Poor old Branden has been in the wars this week. At school he was playing a game at lunch time and the headmaster swung his arm around and caught him on the eye with his watch. A trip to the doc to get it glued. He has a ripper of a shiner though. Then a couple of days later, he came boring up the path on his scooter and hit the dirt and landed on a cactus. Took me a while to get the spikes out then he put an icepack on it and all was well. Great to see all the pics. Here are some of mine. Have a great day. Colleen

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 8, 2012
8:18 PM

Post #9353372

Im still here just havent had many interesting photos to post.
Trish- can you d-mail me again, i cant see any.
Wendy- i'll have to check what pups i have and get back to you on that swap.
Great broms as always everyone!!!
ianperry

December 9, 2012
12:38 AM

Post #9353428

Hi all. It is hot and dry here today again. I took some of my plants for a walk today and they seem to have had less energy than me as they stayed up the back.Well if they like it there they can stay there. Well I have a bit more space in the pool area now, but before filling it again I have to watch the ones up the back. I think most will be happy there til a branch comes down on them. I also cleaned a lot of plants and found an excavator in my seedlings After digging out 4 the Rhino beetle decided to dig a new home for itself. I evicted it and told it to go away. It did and I hope it stays away from my seedlings.I tooksome fresh piccies of my work.
Have a good one
Ian
Piccies from up behind my bush house

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perke_patch

December 9, 2012
4:08 AM

Post #9353450

hi everyone. nice to hear from some of the missing ones again. Hi to Kristi and Colleen. lovely to hear from you both and glad all is AOK for you.

Karen is fine and is still up in the air about her home. Dept of housing is still twiddling about who should have the houses. So Karen is not getting any more broms than she already has in case they force her to move and she ends up in a flat or unit with no garden at all. If they just made a decision so she could move on and get over it it would be much less painful and stressful for her. Governments. ... not a one of them earns the money they give themselves.

I did check in last night but was so tired. I typed up and nice little response to a couple of people and pooooofffff it all disappeared. It done that to me a couple of times and I have no idea what or why it happens so I jsut logged off in disgust. Tonight I am even more tired than last night. can barely keep my eyes open. Lucky I can touch type and not even look so I can sit here with my eyes resting and just type whatever I'm thinking. gee I hope my fingers are on the right keys or you guys are going to have some tgrouble working out what I;m saying. loooks ok I just checked. hahahaha

OMG were we busy. Jen went home about 4pm I think and we started putting plants away and cleaning up then a couple more came in and we kept putting away. I think we were on our last table full and the phone rang about 5.40 and some people from Redcliffe who we hadn't seen here for about a year rang to say they were at Capalaba and was it too late to come round to see what was left. We had to say yes but instead of arriving before 6 it was more like 6.30 when they got here. too dark to see too much even with all the outside lights on. they picked a few and left around 7pm but will come back in a couple weeks just after Christmas I think. Anyway we went and got some tea and was almost too tired to eat it so it's in the fridge for tomorrow. Now what did I want to write last night???

I liked that pic of orlandiana pink Trish. I love the orlandianas. we have a reverse ensign here which lost all it variegation so was just an orlandiana but yesterday I discovered all 5 of it's pups are variegated so I'm really happy about that. It is right on the edge of the shadecloth though so all tips on one side are now bleached badly but the pup on that side is OK. Even our silver plums have same colour bleaching on one side where the leaves stick out into the sunshine. we even have burn spots on red macaw and they've always been in same place in the sun most of the day so we told everyone this weekend we wouldn't guarantee anything would be OK in full sun. Off the track again we were talking orlandianas ... sorry. If anyone has any orlandianas that I don't have I am keen to swap for those. mine are orlandiana (normal green), ensign and reverse ensign, strawberry, snowflake. I think that's all. I have put down seeds of strawberry F2 and snowflake F2 so can't wait to see what I get from those. should have lots to share soon. I've already potted up first lot of strawberry ones which needed thinning out.

I love the A. lueddemanniana types too. what is the difference between mend and rodco?? I can't see any but haven't put them side by side to compare. pics look same though. I do like that alvarez one. love the colour.
Those toothpicks are starting to dig in too much trying to keep the eyes open so I'm going to log off now and get some well earned shut eye. wonder if Jen is asleep yet. she worked hard all weekend too.

Night all. pics tomorrow night. too tired now.
Wendy
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 9, 2012
12:22 PM

Post #9353823

good morning, nice to see a few posts!
Wendy, it good that your sale was so busy! Did you make much space (more important than money) I am eager to see your Orlandiana seedlings mature. How exciting.
Aechmea 'Mend' is the albo marginated form of A. lueddemanniana, and A. 'Alvarez' is the variegated form. A. 'Rodco' is alot like A. 'Alvarez' but in my opinion, is a much larger plant with a more vibrant pink. As for 'inverta' I'm not quite sure what that means.
Lucky you to be so adept at typing. I mustn't tap the keys hard enough, as I look at the keyboard when typing, and when I check the screen, half the letters and spaces are missing, Or I get extras!
Ian, I thought I was the busy one here! The new spot for your plants looks well shaded and should suit them well, although I can sympathise with you when it comes time to clean the leaf matter out! Was the rhino beetle damaging the seedlings, or just displacing them? What do they eat? Maybe it was looking for a place to lay its eggs? Lucky you found it early.
bree, you don't have to post photos to drop in. Just a comment or two is enough so that we know you're ok. I do like your colourful photos though...
Colleen, poor Branden! Clocked (literally) in the eye and punctured by cactus! That has got to hurt! You have all been in the wars this year. Your photos of your broms look just as colourful as ours. Maybe its just the camera types and settings.
Nev, that Crypt. 'Lisa Vinzant'is a stunner. I didn't know Chanin was on DG? I have seen some of his other posts in other forums. They grow nice broms in those tropical countries. I remember seeing some on garden web, from a lady called lyndee? in Singapore, and the Cryptanthus were huge!
Yes, that is Brassia verrucosa, and I got a peice from a market in Toukley years back, stuck it on a tree, and it is flowering now also. The one in the shade house is a potful I inherited from LeisaD. I had another coming into flower, but every bud was eaten by something? A sprinkle of snail pellets must have done the trick, as all the curent orchid buds are looking good (fingers crossed)
Nev, stop mentoning chainsaws in relation to my Alc! it makes me nervous! heh heh. I see Jack has a picture of his one on FB, but it does look slightly different in the stem colour, I think? Now, how did you get a grass pup of A. 'Silver Plum'? I was told they didn't produce grass pups. I saw a heap being sold at a plant fair, with grass pups all over them, and was told by the grower that they were seedlings from A. 'Silver Plum' and was told later, by someone in the know, that yes, an A. 'Silver Plum' f2 will produce grass pups. It has left me a little confused. How did they get the original A. 'Silverplum' (without grassies) and why does the f2 produce grassies?
I trust you had a good day with the steam trains? I remeber time spent with my Dad, in the Waitakeres in NZ, when we used to go on a small train. I just googled it, and they still do the train trip in a miniature train, through glow worm caves. I think they follow the old train lines when they built the dam? Ahhhh, memories. I bet you are building lasting memories for your grandkids too.
Anyway, housework day today. There are grass clippings and yard debris all through the house, the sign of a gardener!
No new photos to post today, but I shall try to get new ones for tomorrow, unless you want a 'Toy Run' shot? Taken while riding!
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 9, 2012
2:18 PM

Post #9353950

Hi everyone – We had a bit of rain here overnight and this morning has started with a lot of overcast and a cool southerly wind blowing and not shaping up to be a very pleasant day.

Colleen – Gee it's great to see you back with us once more. It seems all of your troubles are over now as they say these things come in threes and you've had your three; first there was you, with your injured back, then Branden with his eye injury and then Branden again when he had an argument with the cactus. So everything is on the improve from here on for you.

Nice pic's you've posted and the colour in your brom's is great despite what you say. You and I are on about the same latitude and further south than the rest of the growers here so it stands to reason that our plants will be a little behind those of our northern friends in the time it takes them to colour fully. How about some names as I'm sure I'm speaking for everyone when I say we want to know what the plants are.

Branden doesn't look very happy in the picture after his accident or was it that he just didn't like getting his pic taken, in fact if you hung a number around his neck he could be one of those blokes on the “wanted posters”. Tell him to cheer up and that coming a “gutser” off a scooter or bike is something that we all did as kids. To make him feel better, tell him that I remember as a kid getting a (second hand) bike and Dad had fitted one of those little generators on the back wheel so that when I rode at night I had a light. The faster you peddled the brighter the light would be so I decided to try it out. I was riding down the road from where we lived “full pelt” and next thing I found myself in the grass with “slimy things” sliding all over me. What had happened was I had crashed into our next door neighbour and his friend who were just returning from eel fishing at the old quarry dam and I crashed into them causing their eels to escape from the bag and these were the “slimy things” that were sliding all over me. I don't remember much about it until I was being helped up and was probably knocked out as this was before crash helmets, but our neighbours said all they remember was seeing this “bright white light” quickly approaching before I crashed into them.

Bree – Good to see you can at least find the time to drop in and say g'day, and I'm sure we'll be getting a bit more conversation from you in the near future. It's always nice to hear from you even if you don't have any pic's to post.

Ian – I hope your plants like their new location. Moving plants to a different location like this can often have a dramatic effect on them. For example, brom's that would never flower in their old location will often flower in the new one. On the other hand plants that flowered freely in the old location may not flower in the new one which just sums up what the old growers say, and that is, never re-locate a plant that's doing well. It's only when we're not satisfied with their performance that we need to try different places. I have some brom's that I have tried in three or four different locations before I was finally happy with their performance, so I guess it's just a matter of juggling your plants around within the space available to you to obtain the best results.

How did you go with the Quesnelias, did you get any viable seed to plant? I'll be very interested in the results so please keep us posted.

Wendy – It's good to see that Karen is OK, but bad to hear she is still being stuffed around by the Queensland Government Department of Housing. Don't get me wrong, I love Queensland and have spent many wonderful holidays there, but I do think your State and Local Governments need a bloody good “shake up”. It seems that every night on the TV there is some type of housing dispute over some antiquated Govt. rule or by-law and just like the NSW Govt. not one of the “pollies” in office at the time wants to accept any responsibility or take steps to sort it out. Maybe they should all take up brom growing to help them relax and grow a brain that can handle the job they are so well paid to do. Sorry about that little outburst, but it always seems to be the “little bloke” that suffers.

It's good to see your sale went so well, maybe I'll employ you to come down here and arrange a sale so I can thin out a lot of my stuff to make way for the young seedlings coming through. How's Jen going? We haven't heard from her since she had that nasty flu bug that went through the school some time back.

I was checking all my babies yesterday and am pleased to report that all of the Ae. Orlandiana seed you sent is doing well. Also some Billbergia seed I got from a friend as well as my first lot of seed from my own Bill. plants. Bill. 'Fruit Salad' (one from you) crossed with Bill. Fascinator; You Beaut!

Like you I too have difficulty telling the difference between Ae. 'Mend' and Ae. 'Rodco' as I only have pic's to go from and sizes aren't usually given. The only thing I can see when all the pic's I have are side by side is that Ae. 'Rodco' seems to have brighter colours as does Ae. 'Alvarez'. They all appear to be variegated plants and none of the ones I've seen seem to be true pink-marginated plants. Even the ones that look to have pink margins at first glance, do have other slight variegation when viewed more closely. I haven't had the opportunity to compare the flowers though, so maybe that's where the difference is. The BCR descriptions don't seems to answer the question fully either (see below) :

ALVAREZ: cv. of lueddemanniana from wild collection - (See 'Mend', 'Rodco', 'Pinkie' & 'Blanca Alvarez') - Tropiflora said, "Slow growing and has a medio-picta variegation - a broad stripe of pinkish orange up the center of each leaf when grown in bright light" - From observation, a variegated upright rosette w/green margins and lineations within the white center - glazed in intense red-orange overall in good light.

MEND: cv. of lueddemanniana - (See 'Alvarez', 'Pinkie', 'Blanca Alvarez', 'Rodco' & 'Rodco Inverta') - (Name is derived from (M)Mildred Merkel, (E)Edward Ensign who sowed the seed, (N)Julian Nally who gave the seed to Ensign, and (D)in memory of Ralph Davis) - Albo-marginated in white becoming bright pink-red in good light - hardy and attractive - long lasting first white then shiny purple berries - seedling mutation - open vase-shaped rosette to 18" tall and 24" wide.

Two interesting things do come from these descriptions though, the first is how the name MEND was born and secondly, in the description of Ae 'Alvarez' from the Tropiflora Nursery in the U.S. they also say that it is slow growing which supports what Sue and I have found. So if you're reading this Sue, it's not just us, even the “experts” can't make them grow any faster.

Before I go, “Get Well Soon” to anyone on the sick list and anyone else who is just having a bit of a “lurk”, let's hear from you again.

Sue - How do you do it? Every morning just as I'm about to hit the "send button" there's a message saying someone else has just posted, and guess who that someone else is?

Regarding the term "inverta", it's not even mentioned in the FCBS glossary only the word "inverted" which is interpreted as : "Turned over; end-for-end; top side down". Maybe it means that the colours are a reversal of the norm, who knows? I'll have to look further for an answer.

Re. Chanin Thurot, he posted that pic of Crypt. 'Lisa Vinzant' on Dave's Garden in 2007 which was long before I joined and probably in another bromeliad area of Dave's Garden before this one was up and running. He also often posted on the Garden Web Forums along with Lisa, Lyndi Whye (I think that's her name) Jack Koning, Ross Little, and many others I have since forgotten.

As for how I got a grass pup of Alc. 'Silver Plum', it originally came from a bloke who owed me about $20 for some extra brom's I let him have once on the priviso he would pay me back with something I didn't have. He turned up with about six grass pups of different Alcantareas and as I had never grown them before, I just accepted the fact that he said they were all "grassies" as he called them. I don't know whether they were F2's they came from or not so I can't help you with that question.They all grew but this one was my favourite and I don't remember the others but I'll have a look today and let you know. I'm not really into them as they take too much room for my small backyard.

As for the steam trains, our little grandson "had a ball", the only problem was trying to get him off the train when it was time to go home.

Pic's today are: Pic.1 and 2 are my Bill. “Babies”; Pic.3 is an “early morning” look inside the Neo. shade house from the door; Pic.4 is some “suspended colour” in the Neo Shade House and Pic.5 is the south east corner of the Neo. Shade House.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 10, 2012
2:21 AM

Post #9354313

Hi Everyone!

Well the weekend did not pan out at all like I had expected, spend most of the weekend cleaning the house so that it sparkles for us as much as all the decorations we have managed to hang around the whole inside of our house. Anyway as much as I was shitty with myself that this was nearly all we did over the weekend it was refreshing waking up this morning with the house so clean and organized, now it’s really starting to feel like Xmas. We also had visitors over for a good part of Sunday afternoon through to late evening which meant no time for getting out into the garden for the cooler part of the day. We are planning a Cape York trip with these friends in 2013 which will be great.

So during the week I have some more broms to pot up (about 12) so I plan to do this in the evenings after dinner is out the road. Joe also has some Orchids to pot up.

Hi Sue, yeah Lexi did not mind too much me wrapping her in Xmas Tinsel while she was having a wee sleep on our bed, but I did try to get her to pose with a Merry Xmas sign we have so I could use some to pop in Xmas cards but she did not like that one bit, although I did managed to get one pic that wasn’t too bad, the other 6+ shots I took of her were of her trying to run away or not sitting still for the camera, or she had a shitty upset look on her face like kids get when they don’t want to get their picture taken lol.

Sue thanks and it’s great that you are fine with sending me Ae. Orange form, I D-Mailed you with my details late last night after our visitors had gone.

Sue you guys must have so much fun all together when you go on your motorbike trips, you must get to visit a lot of beautiful places. My sister used to go on motorbike trips with her husband but she gave it up because she kept falling asleep whilst she was passenger holding onto hubby and I think he was pleased with her decision because he was really concerned about her falling off and was forever having to wake her up lol.

Thanks Sue, got your D-Mail.

Hi Bree glad to see you’re OK and just have not posted because you have no pics to share with us, that no excuse, we need a better excuse than that to not hear from you lol. Bree can you D-Mail me with your Contact/Postal details as I have that pup nearly ready to separate / pot up to send to you and hopefully by then I might find some more pups that might be ready but I really have to look and see?

Hi Colleen glad to hear from you as we have missed hearing about what you have been up to and seeing your always lovely pics. That’s a shocker of a black eye your grandson Braden is wearing, hope it heals up quick so he feels better soon as he looks really sad in that pic you posted. Luved all your colorful brom pics you posted too, are some of them Neo Princeps Select?

Hi Nev great to hear you had a beautiful day with your grandson on the steam trains, sure it would have been a beautiful and relaxing day for all of you. I laughed till I cried when I read your story of your scooter incident as a child with those friendly eels sliding all over you, I haven’t laughed that hard in a very long time so I thank you Nev so very much for sharing such a beautiful and funny story. Joe thought I was dying when I started laughing because I could not catch my breath and he looked at me like do you need your asthma spray or something, I had to get up and get some tissues to dry my eyes and blow my nose to catch my breath and I had pretty much laughed all the breath out of me lol.

Nev thanks for providing advice on how much light J.C. Superstar can take, I want to get some more sun hardy broms to put in the front yard but sounds like best not to subject this beautiful type of brom to the harsh rays of summer we are in right now.

Nev thanks heaps but for some reason I did not get that info you say you sent me regarding packaging plants, would you mind resending?

Wow Nev, look at all those beautiful seedling babies and brom pics you have posted, everything is doing so very well and as I always say look so well kept and organized and full of wonderful color, you should be very proud, they all look so amazingly beautiful all your broms.

Hi Wendy, pleased to hear you liked my recent purchase of Ae Pinkie, I do not have many of these types of broms but I really like them as they really stand out and luv the fact that they are very tuff and hard to destroy. I have most of mine growing in the front yard in full sun except for Pinkie and Ensign given they are still quite small and I am working out where I want to keep them. You sound like you have a big collection of different types growing and would luv to see some of the different ones you have growing and where best to grow them. The Strawberry one sounds very interesting and can’t wait to see pics of this one as well as Snowflake. I will have to take some pics and post a thread on some of the ones I have in the front yard over Xmas as I think some are NOIDS.

Hi Ian great pics you posted of all the hard work you achieved in the garden; it looks like you had a very busy weekend indeed, I am jealous because I got to spend zero time in the garden this weekend and am still recovering from the shock of only doing housework the whole weekend. I really like all the shade you have with the trees, somewhere beautiful and shady for you to sit you broms under. It’s a shame trees loose so many leaves and branches though and make such a mess that always needs to be cleaned-up, but then where would all our broms be without such beautiful shade and a place for us to sit under and keep cool over summer after a big day spent in the garden and to reflect on our day.

Anyway I better head off before it gets too late.

Take care everyone and Happy Gardening! Hi to anyone looking in.

Trish

Pic 1 Grace x Break of Day - Gold Form
Pic 2 Vr. Ginoti x Fost. White Bands
Pic 3 Lexi Wishing Everyone a Merry Christmas lol
Pic 4 Lucy Wishing Everyone a Merry Christmas lol
Pic 5 Neo Prince of Darkness (Thanks Nev ;-)

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perke_patch

December 10, 2012
3:19 AM

Post #9354328

Hi all.
Haven't caught up on sleep yet. Max was making all sorts of noises all night last night. It sounded like he was trying to clear a lump from his throat so maybe his tumour is moving into his throat now. It seems to be pretty hard for him to breath through his nose at night so I think it has moved to the right side now. because he is not sleeping well at night he is sleeping more in day so I think the decision will have to be sooner rather than later and today Johnny actually mentioned that so I think I need to get some photos for him for later. maybe some xmas ones like yours Trish. love the christmas messages your dogs are displaying.

Nev your fruit salad cross sounds marvellous. I think I put pollen on some of my fruit salads but the labels faded so I can't remember what I put on them. I have 5 sanderiana crosses also but the labels faded so I don't know which ones were crossed and which were F2 so I kept each and every pod separate. hopefully it will be obvious eventually which ones are F2 and which have other traits in them.

pic 1 is a lump of ae bert growing in a tree in a lot of sun. theyhave a range colours as you can see. I love these and this clump caused all of our berts to be bought on the weekend. we can't seem to get enough of these or blanchetianas. both of these aechmeas walked out the gate again and we have none left. however a couple of our regular customers did say they were taking pups to the dump as they had them everywhere in their own yards and had given away as many as possible to friends and now they all say no when offered so in future they will drop them off to us and we will swap them for something which works for us. we had regulars bringing us plants this weekend and we now have a lovely red canna and some trumpet plants as well as orchids. Jen looked absolutely exhausted yesterday when she left here around 4pm. we had our last customer after 7pm (did I say that last night??) anyway I know that Jen still reads posts as she mentions them.
Pic 2 is orlandiana rainbow growing in full sun. over winter Johnny pushed the ring up to very top of the pole so the plant stuck up over the roof of the shadecloth so it was in full sun. we haven't moved it back down. apparently this is what people see when they pull up so everyone wants one of these. this one now has 3 good sized pups on it ready to come off. we also have 2 old mothers hidden in back with pups on them.
pic 4 is orlandiana snowflake. this one is in the tree so is more white than the one in a pot under shadecloth. I know this one in the tree has a pup on it but I'm not climbing to get it down. LOL. not sure if hte potted one has a pup coming yet. I'd love to get one more so I can get more pups. I promise I'll get pics of the orlandiana seedlings. Nev I didn't remember that I sent you some of the seed. glad it is growin for you. I know I got a lot of seed from them. I think the ants were working overtime in that section of the yard. I have several trays of them growing and they do need thining out which I've started doing. (damn DG turned it around again)
Pic 3 is ae electra or rajah. same thing. it was knows as electra for years and years and was in lots of collections then one of the big growers and importers registered it as rajah and did a big release and sold lots. we've flowered both and they are identical. anyway we had one flowering this weekend put a 'display only' sign on and a couple of photos attached to others as well and sold abou 4 or 5 large plants which will probably flower this year anyway. we also let the flowering one go yesterday afternoon too.

anyway I'm off to bed early again tonight. lucky I got an early one in last night so I had a good hour to get into a deep sleep before Johnny and Max came in so I didn't get woken up till after 1am for a toilet trip. then I couldn't get back to deep sleep with Max making all those noises and Johnny turning on the torch and bending over to check on him all night long. So I'll get an early couple hours before them again tonight I think.

Night all
Wendy

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perke_patch

December 10, 2012
3:29 AM

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oh I meant to say Nev you kept all those tillandsias a secret. I didn't know you had such a collection of them. wow that side of your shadehouse looks marvellous. have you ever collected seed from any of your ionanthas????/ I've never seen any pop on any of ours even though I often transfer pollen onto them. Apparently I did sell someone one that popped seed shortly after she got it home on her windowsill so maybe I just didn't know what I was looking at. anyhow I've never had them popping seed. and the seed I purchased from Brom L were obviously cooked when I was taking them inside to the heater and back out to the sunshine on the back verandah during winter. or maybe they just didn't like the changing light all the time. so I won't do that again. I have a few contacts on the planet tilladsia now who have promised to send me some till seed in their seedcollecting season so I'm hoping I'll get some from them to try.

Bed now. night
Wendy
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 10, 2012
11:54 AM

Post #9354772

Good morning.
Trish, I had to spend yesterday doing housework too! Like you, I am glad it is done, and it feels xmas-y, and only needs a tree to finish it off. Hubby and I will go and get one from the tree farm on the weekend. I did manage to get acouple of things done in the yard, one being to pot up the two Aechmea 'Rodco' plants, one of which had a few roots already, so maybe it will get established sooner? I also moved A. blanchettianas out of the pool area, as the pots are staining the concrete. It must be the tanins leaching out of the pine bark? I will have to get the guerney out.
Your two dogs look very cute. Hubby and I pose for a xmas shot each year, with goofy xmas hats on, and put the photos in xmas card frames to send to the immediate family.This year we will do one posing with the big Alcantarea, and one posing with the bikes.
We do quite a bit of motorcycling these days. We actually met through motorcycling. We lost the passion for awhile, just too busy with other things, but it has become important for us again, and we have been on some gorgeous country rides.
My daughter used to fall asleep when we went motorcycling, so I used to tie her to the sissy bar! I'd be riding along and feel her head crash into my back, as she nodded off! She is the same in a car, and falls asleep in a couple of minutes. Lord knows how she copes when shes driving!
Nev, thanks for the information on the A. lueddemanniana cultivars. I have an A. 'Alarez' that is still the same size as the A. 'Rodco's I potted yesterday, despite it being potted up in 2010! Yerp, they are slow! I think Colleen might have bought a Rodco off me in the past? How did it go, Colleen?
Nev, I wait until you are almost ready to post, then I quickly post mine before you, thats how I do it! heh heh. I guess we both have the same computer routine. Sometimes you get on before me, but not often!
Wendy, your 'lump' of Bert is impressive. Heh heh. I wish I had more trees suitable to mount broms in. There is a nice casurina over by the dam that i reckon would be perfect for Tillandsias, and when my seedlings get a little bigger, I might put a mixture of them on there. The bark is quite corky. The only othertrees I mount the broms on, are the bangalow palms. I have also tried tieing mini neos to the Tibouchina tree.
I grow my A. orlandianas in full sun, all but 'Snowflake' and 'Ensign' although the latter gets very good light to keep it a squat shape, rather than long and lanky.
Oh dear, no photos again! I have to get moving as I am hosting a xmas lunch, and need to get some cooking done. Hopefully I will get a chance to play in the garden, and I have a couple of plants i want to photograph to try for ID's on.
Till tomorrow
Sue.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 10, 2012
12:35 PM

Post #9354810

Hi everyone -Well the winds have stopped and the sun is shining once again so hopefully I'll get a bit more done out in the yard.

Trish – It's good to get a nice long post from you during the week instead of having to wait until the weekend. I love the Christmas pic's of your “happy hounds”, although I must say they don't look like they approved very much.

I'm sure you'll be very pleased with the Ae Blanchetiana (orange form) from Sue. It's a beautifully coloured plant and will do well for you in your climate. Unfortunately I can't say the same for the climate down here.

I haven't seen Neo. Grace x Break of Day (Gold form) and will be most interested to see a pic when the plant matures. I have both of the parents (Pic's 1 and 2) so the pedigree is there for breeding, that's why I'm so interested in seeing the result when it matures. I don't know what the breeder was after as the plants are totally different (colour wise) but maybe it was something in the past breeding lineage that the hybridiser was trying to “cash in” on, who knows?

Wendy – Sorry to hear Max is unwell again and you have my sympathy for the anguish you must both be going through once again.

I'm a bit excited about my Bill. 'Fruit Salad' x Bill. 'Fascinator' seedlings as it's the first time I've managed to get seed on any of my Bill's at all. Everyone says they are the easiest brom's of the lot to hybridize with, but for some reason I never seem to be able to “crack it” and finish up with a pod full of seed. Where did you get your original plant of 'Fruit Salad' from, was it a hybrid from John and Jenny Catlan's breeding successes, and what else do you know of its history?

There's no doubt about it, Ae Orlandianas are really very attractive plants, and although they're not everyone's “cup of tea” they are still so popular that I never end up with any spare pups, but have a rather long waiting list of names of people wanting pups instead. I wish the Neo seedlings were as popular, because then my space problems would be solved.

As for the Tillandsias, well they are something that's never really appealed to me, probably because they take so long to grow from seed. The little collection you see hanging near the shade house door in yesterday's pic are just little “bits and pieces” friends have given me in their attempt to convert me, but I've never actually gone and deliberately bought any. They just hang there and get a bit of a spray when I'm watering the Neo's but otherwise they just take their chances and they seem to grow OK so they must like the micro-climate the larger plants create in that particular shade house.

I'll try and finish this morning and get this post away before Sue posts so I'll finish with a few pic's. Pic.1 is Neo Grace; Pic.2 is Neo 'Break of Day' Pic.3 is one of the miniature species which I noticed yesterday as it was in flower. See how high the flowers are in comparison to other Neo flowers which makes them much easier to get at when hybridising. I did a few crosses with some of those flowers after I took the pic's yesterday so it will be interesting to see what turns up. Pic.4 is Neo. 'Broulee Beauty' and Pic.5 is not my picture nor my plant but is at the top of my "Wish List" it is called Neo.'Ipswich Gold' and I believe it is another of the wonderful hybrids from Alan Freeman. If anyone knows where I can get a pup, please let me know as I've been chasing it for quite a while now without success.

All the best, Nev.

P.S. Bugger! Sue's done it again and jumped in just as I was about to post, that makes it three days in a row, a "trifecta".

Sue - When you pose in front of the Alcantarea with Bill for the "Chrissy Cards", I think it would be more appropriate if Bill had a chain saw in his hand, Ha! Ha!

As for the Rodco, Mend and Alvarez etc. being slow growers, well I have a couple of plants of Mend (inverta) which came from the same plant owned by a friend of mine down the coast and they just seem to be stationary (growth wise), so I'm going to do a fertilizing experiment on one of them and not feed the other as it will be the 'control plant". I'll post results each six months.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 10, 2012
5:40 PM

Post #9355093

Hi everyone, lovely broms!
Xmas is getting closer, just finished getting everything i need. Im having an early xmas dinner at my place this friday for my family as my daughter will be away and my mum works xmas day. Then i get a 2nd xmas lunch with all the trimmings on xmas day at my partners nans. hehe!
Sue- a saturday sale sounds great, hopefully i can get down even though im running out of places to put my broms. ha! I really want to go to the Coffs botanical gardens also with my camera.
1. Nelson 2. Boldstreak x McWilliiamsii 3. Royal Flush 4. Concentrica x Hearts Music 5. Stars and Bars.

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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 10, 2012
6:48 PM

Post #9355142

1. NOID mini 2&3. Aechmea recurvata var. benrath 4. Shining Light

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ianperry

December 10, 2012
11:55 PM

Post #9355260

H all, k'yb'a'd n't ''' k'ng ''''' ly.
Hav a gd 1
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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 11, 2012
1:14 AM

Post #9355277

What kind of language is that? lovely big Vanda in your photo Ian.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 11, 2012
2:14 AM

Post #9355290

Hi Everyone!

They are forecasting rain for here this Sunday and Monday so I hope the weather mans predictions are right because we could really do with some rain out our way to put out some of these dreaded fires happening around the outskirts of Townsville. Although the fires are not that large they are really leaving no room for wildlife to graze or hide anymore especially with all the housing developments going on all around us, so we are at present seeing a lot more wildlife living in the dry wetland area behind our place, as well as too much wildlife dead on the side of the road that I am really sad about. I normally stop when it’s safe to do so and check Kangaroo and Wallaby pouches and have been very fortunate this year in finding the occasional Joey alive needing rescuing. When we lived out bush I used to look after a lot of rescued wildlife, now unfortunately with work commitments I normally drop them to a wildlife carer who does an absolute amazing job hand raising them and they release a good majority of the wildlife back into the wilderness or depending on their condition they sometime end up in Wildlife Sanctuaries which is fantastic. The cutest animal I have ever rescued had to be Wally the Wombat, I will never forget how small he was when I found him, he was that small he fitted in the palm of my hand and was just this little pink thing with hardly any hair on him, so I wrapped him in a towel and cranked up the heater in the car to keep him as warm as I could. I will never forget that day for as long as I live.

Hi Wendy, sorry to hear the Max had a tough night last night and that the evenings are getting hard on him and you and Johnny are missing out on sleep, I really feel for you guys and must admit that I had a cry early this morning when I read your thread and I read about you thinking of doing similar like I have with my girls and take some Xmas pictures with Max, that would be so lovely for all of you to have special pictures of Max and with Max so you have ever lasting memories of what a beautiful boy he will forever be. We have countless pictures of the girls and I know that people must think us crazy but hey they mean the world to us and our lives would not be the same without them.

Wendy thanks for sharing those pics with us of all your beautiful Aechmea’s, the one’s that really intrigued me where you’re Pic 2 and Pic 4, they really stood out among the others with all their beautiful markings and gorgeous colors.

Hi Sue, great to hear you and your hubby pose for Xmas shots each year, I reckon it’s fun to post a nice or funny picture in with the Xmas cards, I know our families always can’t wait to get our card just so they can see what picture we have taken each year, we sometime dress the girls up and they get a big kick out of seeing them in their Xmas outfits but unfortunately they have outgrown their suits to wear them this year to welcome the house guests that are coming to visit lol.

Sue you sounded like you slaved away cleaning the house like I did and yes like you I am really happy things are ship shape for Xmas and before all our visitors arrive.

Hi Nev yeah like you I have never heard of Neo Grace x Break of Day (Gold form) until we saw it on EBay the other day and Joe won it for me - yeah. The only ones I thought existed were Neo Grace and Neo Break of Day, so like you I am very curious to see what it will look like when it matures, I will have to remember to post a pic down the track so everyone can see.

Nev that pic of Neo Ipswich Gold is AMAZING; I can totally understand why you have been chasing this one as it is gorgeous. If I ever come across one you will be the first to know.

Nev the reason why everyone is getting to see more threads from me during the week instead of only on the weekends is because I read them at night and then again first thing most morning before I head off to work, so that when I do have a lunch break I try to commence preparing a thread in Word rather than leaving it until the evenings when I have so many thread reading to catch up on, which leaves little time to prepare a thread before bedtime. I really enjoy being part of this forum and enjoy the fact that not only do we get to talk about our very evident brom addictions that we all share, but that we also get to share in one another’s lives in one way or another and this truly warms my heart and I feel like one big happy family.

Yeah I know I go on a bit but that’s just the type of person that I am and sometimes it’s ok to just say hey Trish I wish you would just shut up for a bit – now back to broms lol.

I still have not started potting up those broms I was supposed to start doing when I got home from work yesterday; a slack attack hit me out of nowhere and all I wanted to do after dinner was sit in front of the TV with a bowl of salty potato chips and I totally chilled out that much I fell asleep on the couch and apparently I was snoring a bit. Ah well maybe I will pot them up this arvo when I get home – I must focus on the task at hand and stop stuffing around.

Does anyone happen to be the happy owner of a Neo called Exon Tigra? I was checking out a picture of one on the net the other day and really like it and added it to my Want List. If anyone has one and can post a picture that would be appreciated so I can see if I really, really like it before I try purchasing from the seller as it is a supposed new release.

Hi Ian I just checked your thread and it looks like you may have had a blind fold on when you were typing, either that or all your fingers are broken because I could not work out what you were trying to say other than “Hi All” and “Have a Good Day” lol. Nice pips you posted of all your broms though.

Hi Bree great to see you posting again and with great brom pics, The Neo Nelson pup you sent me is doing really well, nice to see the Pic 1 you posted of your mature plant. I also have your Pic 2 Neo Boldstreak x McWilliamsii and I luv it because it is such a nice looking brom and can handle a fair bit of strong light, mine gets half day of full sun in the morning and is coping very well. Pic 5 of your Neo Stars & Bars I really like because it is just that little be different, does it get more markings than what it has now?

Anyway that’s about it for today (up to page 2 in my Word Doc) which is a bit scary given I want to check the treads when I get home this evening and send this thread off tonight with only hopefully a few more add on depending on who else I must catch up with.

Take care and Happy Gardening Everyone! Hi to anyone looking in or on the Sick List.

Pic 1 - Another brom garden bed that I am preparing in between the Avocado and Mango Tree
Pic 2 - Neo Lime & Lava – I luv the markings on this brom
Pic 3 - Neo Oh No Very Cherry
Pic 4 - Neo Sweet Heart (Mini)
Pic 5 - Assortment of NOIDS

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ianperry

December 11, 2012
2:26 AM

Post #9355293

Hi all i just borrowed another keyboard, the old one had letters not working. I did nothing gardenwise today
Sorry about the language it was keyboard failure language, fairly cryptic at that.
Previous post Pic 1 Some Bills
Pic 2 Vresia glutinosa in corner
Pic 3 Portea seedlings planted
Bree you liked my wifes Vanda here it is again in Pic 4
Pic 1 Vresias mostly also in Neo Medusa
Pic 2 & 4 are seedlings
Pic 5 Canistrum burchellii seedlings self sewn growing in August about 1" high then.
Have a good one all
Ian

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 11, 2012
5:10 AM

Post #9355350

Hi all, we have internet access again tonight, finally, though it is intermittent. I am so over BigPond and their stuff ups, anyway, I thought I would post while I can. I haven’t had a chance yet to read all the posts and there appears to be lots of them and hopefully I will catch up over the next couple of days. If I happen to disappear again, you can bet that BigPond/Telstra is to blame.

We have had quite a few heavy showers over the last couple of days. Monday morning it absolutely bucketed down for more than an hour. It didn’t do much for the garden though as I went out to plant something after it stopped and when I moved aside the mulch, the ground was dry underneath. I couldn’t believe that it could rain so heavily and so little of it soak into the soil. We do have green grass again though still a bit patchy and the gardens are starting to look better, see pic.

Nev, I hope your burns have healed by now. Love the pics of your garden and shadehouse. By the way, Nev, the Galactic Warrior in the pic in my last post is almost 90 cm (three feet) from tip to tip.

Sue, hope your cold has improved and you are feeling better now. And if you do get any spare pups from Ae Rodco down the track, could you please keep one for me.

Wendy, hope your sale continued to go well over the weekend. I have managed to squeeze my lovely new broms into their new home. I haven’t taken photos as yet, sorry guys, but will get some in the next couple of days. Some very nice broms came home with me, thanks Wendy, but I would have loved so many more … there’s always next time though I might have to wait till we get that shadehouse extension completed.

Hi to Trish, Bree, Jen, Colleen, Ian and anyone else looking in. Lots of catch up reading to do, so many lovely pics to check out. Hope I'll be back tomorrow.

Bye for now, Shirley

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 11, 2012
11:13 AM

Post #9355639

good morning all.
Shirley, are those Cuban Royal palms in your pic? They look massive! I am glad you have got some internet access and i have my fingers crossed for you, that it stays active. I am jealous that you can get to Wendys sales. One day...
Ian, I tried for ages to make sense of your post. heh heh. I was sure there was a hidden message in there somewhere! Your Portea seedlings are huge for their age. Are all the orchids your wifes? There doesn't look like there is much more room for broms, and now i know why you moved some to the garden.
Trish, I cracked up when you posted 'Trish, I wish you would shut up for a bit' ! Heh heh. I don't feel that way at all about you and your posts, and think its lovely that you are such a sharing, caring person. This thread, and everyone who posts in it, have become like family, and usually, when I've ever met a DG member, they are everything I've imagined them to be. I've yet to meet you, Shirley, Karen, Ian, Bree and Colleen, although I have had marathon telephone calls with Colleen in the past, so i feel like i've met her already.
I like your N. 'Lime and Lava' and the selection of broms in the new garden bed looks very attractive as well. You manage to keep quite busy and get things done despite your working life, and the odd slack attack. We all have those!
Bree, I hope you can make it on saturday, and a visit to the botanical gardens will be very rewarding. I hope the glass house is open, as they had a bit of theiving there a few years ago, and now its only open on selected days. i will look into it today for you. Apparently Peter Tristram provided some bromeliads for the display there, and last time I looked, it was really stunning. I like your Neo Nelson, and think I have alot of the same plants as in your other photos, in Leisas garden. If you get here, you will no doubt recognise them.
Nev, I actually like your idea of bill with the Chainsaw. It would suit his 'bah-humbug' hat! I will suggest it to him today. The family will all understand.
I'm looking forward to your experiment with the A. 'Mends' and might do the same with my 'Rodcos' (shirley, you are first on the list for a pup) What type of fertiliser will you use? I will use a teaspoon of Nutricote (3-4 month) and then foliar feed with thrive once a fortnite and see how it responds. I suspect it will lose colour, but I can always get it back in winter when the fertiliser stops.
I had some friends over for a xmas lunch yesterday, and didn't do much around the garden, but did pick up three bins of bark. There is plenty more to pick up, and it is still falling!
Photo one is Neoregelia 'Mr Odean'
photo two is showing Billbergia 'Dark Ladd' in front. It is even darker than the picture!
Photo three is Neo. 'Cockabell'
Photo four is N. 'Freddie' after about 3 years of growth. Still small and has thrown novars.
Photo five is a NOID that i really like, and I love the little ring of flowers.
Till tomorrow
Sue



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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 11, 2012
12:12 PM

Post #9355676

Bromishy-all the brom i just posted are pups and all will change as they age, even the Nelson is not quite full grown and the stars and bars are really small pups at the moment. I do love your lime and lava!
Ian i have heaps of Vandas and orchids in general but they take position in my greenhouse over my broms. hehe!
Love Neo. 'Cockabell' Sue and 'Mr Odean' and that NOID. Thanks for checking that out for me and i'll let you know if im coming.
I like your Neo. Grace Nev..i think you did send me this one.
Hi Shirley!
1. Ring Leader 2. Takemura Grande 3. Gespacho
1 and 2 look similar at the moment dont they.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 11, 2012
1:01 PM

Post #9355721

Hi Everyone – Another day closer to Christmas and still I haven't got any closer to finishing all the jobs I'd set myself as a project. Oh and Sue, once again you've beaten me to the punch, even though I thought I'd start yesterday typing afternoon so I had a head start on you.

Bree – Good to see you back posting once again. Two Christmas diners eh? Gee you're doing alright for yourself aren't you? I hope you've put your order in to Santa for a couple more nice brom's to compliment the ones you already have. That Neo 'Grace' is a beautiful plant, however the red isn't as bright and “glaring” as it appears in the photograph. I still can't seem to be able to photograph reds accurately, even after doing Sue's trick with my hand.

They're nice pic's of plants you've posted today, especially the Neo 'Boldstreak' x McWilliamsii which you've done a particularly good job of growing. I don't think I've ever seen it with such nice wide leaves as well as great colour; you must have the ideal spot for it so whatever you do, don't move it. It's really interesting when you look closely at the patterns on the leaves of some brom's such as this one and it looks just like the pattern is painted on.

I really like the colour of the last one in the first group as well, but I have my doubts whether or not it's Neo. 'Stars 'n Bars' and certainly not like any 'Stars 'n Bars' I've ever seen. Are all of the leaves that colour or just the centre ones? There are a few plants getting around in various colours and all claiming to be 'Stars 'n Bars' but they look absolutely nothing like the ones in the pic's of the registered plant on the BCR.

I know a lot of the images on the BCR are often old “pre-digital” and poor quality, but the images in this case are very clear. Have a look and make up your own mind. http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7254#7254

Actually I like the colour of yours better than the Neo. 'Stars 'n Bars' on the BCR. What do you know about it and do you remember where you got it from? I'd really like to know a bit more about it as I like the colours which are a bit unusual.

Ian – Whatever you have you been drinking, I want some too if it will make me type like that. What's the name of the Billbergia in the corner of your first pic? I like the little seedlings also; do you find like I did that the Bill seedlings grow a lot faster than the Neo's?

Trish – It's great to hear of your concerns for our wild life, it seems like you and I have a lot in common. I often get criticised for feeding native birds in our back yard but I just say to these people that if we didn't keep destroying native habitat with new housing developments the animals wouldn't be coming in to surburbia looking for a feed and I tell them that I'll feed anything that's hungry, even if it was them!

I don't think any of us would ever think or say (as you put it) 'Trish, I wish you would shut up for a bit', it's great to see you taking the time to share your thoughts and knowledge with us. If anything, it's probably me who should “shut up” as I sometimes tend to think I'm taking over the forum with my “long winded” explanations and sometimes think that's why a lot of people don't post very often. I like to share information and that's the way I am, but if anyone thinks I'm saying too much, just say so and I'll do more reading and less writing.

When I saw that cross name of Neo 'Grace' x 'Break of Day' I immediately sat up and took notice as I don't remember seeing either of these two plants used in breeding programmes before. It's only this year that I have put down some seed my self using 'Break of Day' as a parent. I love the colour and the smallish compact size so I've crossed it with 'Small World', 'Cheery Day' and a couple of other similar size plants.

I wish I did have a plant of Neo 'Exon-Tigra'; I first saw a pic of this plant about 2005 and have been looking for it ever since. I think you people in Queensland would have more luck than I as that was where it came from originally. It's certainly has most unusual markings and the history is interesting as well. The BCR tells us that:
“Mature rosette to 45cms. diameter. Seed-grown mutation from intraspecific concentrica cross which over several generations since 2003 has retained purplish brown central stripes with minor variations. Reg Doc. 5/2011. Country of origin: Queensland Australia “

If anyone wants to see the pic it can be found at:http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=10603#10603

I like the collection of colour in your first pic, which reminds me that I have to put a few variegated plants throughout my garden to liven it up a bit. Neo. 'Lime and Larva' is another plant I'm still chasing, so if anyone has a pup they want to swap, please let me know.

I don't know Neo 'Oh No Very Cherry' although I have heard of it before; It does look similar to Neo. Oh! No! But I can's find it as registered on the BCR so maybe it's a “pet name” or possible it's a cross between Neo's 'Oh! No!' and 'Very Cherry' as both of these plants have been around for a while and maybe the name tag was Neo's 'Oh No' x 'Very Cherry' and over the years the “x” has been dropped off...just a thought.

The plant in your last pic looks a bit similar to Neoregelia 'Midnight Moment', but I can't be sure. I'll see if I can find a pic later today and post it tomorrow for comparison.

Shirley – Nice to see you can post again. Did BigPond give you and early Christmas present? Thanks for asking about the “cooked tummy”, everythings good now, just a couple of little bits to heal and then back to normal, unfortunately it didn't burn off any of the fat I've been trying to loose.

That's good to get some feedback on your 'Galactic Warrior', it's almost impossible to estimate size from pic's unless there is some sort of grid (like in Ians pic's) or a sandal (in Sue's). Even the BCR doesn't always give sizes. However having said that, I've never seen one that big down here; are you feeding it and do you have any cultural tricks you would like to share with the rest of us? That's certainly a nice “bushy” setting in the pic you've posted, just my cup of tea.

Sue – It will be good if you do a fertiliser trial as well as me as it will prove once and for all if the plants at fault for its “slow growth” or it's our cultural methods. Pleased you say what fertiliser you'll use too, that way I can make sure I sue something different.

Where do you get your “Nutricote” from? I can't find it anywhere down here not even in the wide range at Bunnings. I'm told it's supposed to be better than Osmocote as Osmocote can sometimes give a sudden release of Nitrogen resulting in a “growth spurt” which is less than desirable, especially if you're grooming a plant for showing. As for the trial, I'll use Osmocote High K and boost it with Phostrogen. It will be interesting to see the results. Don't forget to take some “before and after” pic's and also measure the plants so we can more accurately compare results.

You've done a nice job with your Mr. O' Dean, it looks great. I have a few of my “Sunbird Hybrids” which have Mr. O' Dean as the seed parent so it will be interesting to see what they produce.
Bill. 'Dark Ladd' eh? Seems like you've been shopping at Ross's also; I have this plant as well, it's another from the “Allan Ladd Stable” and has to be the darkest Bill I've ever seen down here or any where else for that matter. I seem to remember getting a Cockabell pup some time back but I just can't find it anymore. Seems like a stock take is called for after all this time! Your Neo Freddie is nice also, but don't you just hate it when they produce NOVARS? (For anyone new reading these posts, a “NOVAR” is when a variegated plant produces a pup with no variegation. The word NOVAR meaning NO VARiegations)

I also like the NOID (NOIDentity.) in your last pic, it seems to me to have a lot of Neo. concentrica in its breeding background, don't you think?

Time to go so I'll finish with a few pic's, Pic.1 is a little hybrid I made from a Neo. 'Painted Lady' (sport) cross, nothing special but I like the colour that's why I kept it; Pic. 2 is another of my crosses, this time Neo. Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack], I think the ants may have had a hand in this one as it's nothing like any of the others from that same cross; Pic.3 I think is Nidularium 'Leprosa'; can anyone confirm this? ; Pic.4 is Neo. 'Fire Wheel' and Pic.5 is the centre of one of the may types of Neo Cruenta showing a close-up of the flowers.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 11, 2012
6:11 PM

Post #9355922

Yeah i like my stars and bars? better to Nev. Heres a photo of the mum which has had it now and the pup atm. I don't know where i got it, ebay probably.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 12, 2012
1:23 AM

Post #9356160

Hi Everyone!

Well we got a small amount of rain last night that I witnessed with my own eyes when taking the girls out to go to the toilet last night, they were very reluctant though in going out because they didn’t want to get their paws wet, anyway the grass and path looked wet and the air smelt nice and fresh so I was pleased we got some rain, but today is the same as yesterday, patchy clouds amongst blue sky and a good breeze blowing with not a raincloud in sight.

Hi Sue thanks for your nice remark regarding me getting things done in the garden despite my working life. I try my utmost darndest to keep on top of everything the best I can with the limited time I have but its not easy and sometimes I get really frustrated with myself when I have not achieved all that I want to achieve in the garden over the weekend, plus naturally wanting to spend quality time with Joe who at times I am sure gets pretty annoyed with how much time I do spend in the garden, but he hides it well and is really sweet as often buys me broms from E-Bay because he knows how much joy I get from them and knows this is my stress relief, aside from the lovely cups of tea he brings out to me so we can sit, relax, chat and sit back an enjoy the garden for a bit.

Sue thanks also for your nice comments on what you think of me, very kind of you and glad you got a laugh at what I said about myself, but hey it’s so true – just shut up Trish, just shut up lol. Yeah I agree we are like one BIG happy family through the wonderful aid of this great forum and it really does make a difference in one’s life when you can be part of each others lives from all different parts of Australia and other Countries, I feel very privileged for the wonderful opportunity and thank everyone, you guys are awesome.

Sue your Pic 1 Neo Mr. Odean appears to look different to the color of mine which is more of a dark Caramel Brown all over with dark tips. I will look for a photo to post for comparison. What type of light situation do you have yours growing in? Mine is in semi-shade out in the garden bed. Your Pic 3 Neo ‘Cockabell’ reminds me of my Neo ‘Red McCaw’, are they at all related? Your Pic 5 NOID is gorgeous and is another one that reminds me of Neo Cliff Siverd as appears to have similarities with the banding marks, do you reckon it will color up anymore?

Hi Bree thanks for clarifying that the Pics you posted back on 10/12/12 are all pups with much more growing to do, it is so hard to tell sometimes in the photos what is or is not a pup. I liked all the Pics you posted on 11/12/12 also. I only have one orchid and it’s a Vanda that hangs in our Mango Tree that gets large purple and white flowers, I will have to find some old pics I took to post but I have a feeling the pictures I took of it in flower were lost when one or our hard drives crashed last month (sad face).

Yeah Sue, Bree and Nev isn’t the Neo Lime and Lava pic I posted nice, but since purchasing the pup (sometime ago) I noticed that it is taking forever to grow, it is definitely a very slow grower although it has grown new leaves and appears to be in good health it I yet to still flower and pup for me.

Hi Shirley luved your great garden shot you posted with your broms under those beautiful big palm trees, do the old palm fronds ever smash your broms to smithereens when they fall or do you somehow cut them off before they are ready to fall? I have broms under a tall palm tree in our pool area so I am concerned about falling fronds and I am keeping an eye on the palm tree. I may need to get up on the roof when the time comes to remove so they do not damage my broms, either that or move my broms when the time comes?

Shirley glad to hear your internet is working for now, hope you don’t experience any more trouble especially this close to Xmas when there is already so much we have to deal with.

Hi Nev yeah I totally agree with you we seem to have a lot in common when it comes to our respect for wildlife and we both adore dogs, oh and then there is all our amazing bromeliads that we collect. I noticed there a quiet a few people in this forum who also have a keen interest for wildlife given the great pics that get posted around from our own back yards, how lucky are we all. Nev I agree that there is no harm in feeding and providing water for birds as there is not much left out there for them in the way of rainforests / wetlands etc, we have a bird feeder fixed to our back fence overlooking the wetlands and I sometimes put fruit there for them and they really enjoy it.

Nev your posts are fantastic and are always full of wonderful information coming from a person with much experience in life and the knowledge of growing bromeliads for many years. This forum would not be the same without your awesome posts, as it is we really dislike when your computer goes on the blink, when we don’t get to hear from you, but hey thankfully Sue came to the rescue for us all last time your computer played up. Nev don’t you dare change anything about you because we like you exactly as you are and I know that I cherish everything about you!


Nev it would be great to see what results you achieve from the seeds you have sown of crossing ‘Break of Day’ with ‘Small World’, ‘Cherry Day’ and of the other similar sized plants.

So Nev Neo ‘Exon-Tigra’ is a neighbor of mine been from QLD and we have never met before lol. I am going to do my utmost best to track it down and will do a bit of a call around to some of the sellers I know to see if I can get my hands on some and by all means if I find more than one I will get one for you also. Nev I will let you know if I get any pups off Neo Lime & Lava, I wish it would hurry up and grow some more.

Nev your probably right about what you say about Neo Oh No Very Cherry that it could be possibly its pet name and that it’s more than likely called Neo Oh No x Very Cherry, unfortunately this is how we purchased it from E-Bay and how the label was written when received? I will have to take another look at the purchase paperwork I kept and see if I can shed any light on the matter?

Hey Nev that last pic I posted yesterday (Pic 5) that you think might be Neo ‘Midnight Moment’ is that NOID I posted awhile back that I thought was Neo ‘Stormy Weather’, I really like it a lot and am so pleased I saved it from a trip to the dump. Now I realize with advice from this wonderful forum that Neo ‘Stormy Weather’ is a mini grower and looked nothing like my NOID. Thanks Nev that would be great if you could post a pic of ‘Midnight Moment’ for comparison.

Nev especially liked Pics 1 & 2 that you posted, these are gorgeous broms, WOW I can’t believe these are your crosses, how clever are you. Nev your Pic 3 is definitely Nidularium ‘Leprosa’, I just looked it up in my Andrew Steens Bromeliad Book called The Connoisseur’s Guide and it is in there on page 249. The Author writes that Nidularium ‘Leprosa’ was once considered to be a hybrid, but it is now accepted as one of the older cultivars of N. rutilans. It is a fairly large-growing cultivar, up to 50 cm in diameter, and is particularly notable for its lovely combination of shell-pink bracts, bright orange petals and overall spotting of rose pink.

Anyway I better post this tread, find some pics and post again in a minute.

Trish
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 12, 2012
1:42 AM

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Pic 1 - NOID saved from going to the dump
Pic 2 - Neo 'Mr Odean' for Sue to compare with her's
Pic 3 - Neo 'Mr Odean' for Sue to compare with her's
Pic 4 - Neo 'Midnight Moment' - Nev I just found this pic which is very different to the NOID I posted in Pic 5 yesterday, anyway I found a better pic I too outside which is todays Pic 5. Pic 4 and 5 are nothing alike. Nev what does your Neo 'Midnight Moment' look like?
Pic 5 - NOID??????

Anyway time to head off for the evening.

Hi Everyone and Happy Gardening!

Trish

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 12, 2012
1:47 AM

Post #9356163

Oops my brom pics got scrambled after I posted:

Pic 1 is still the same as before
Pic 2 is now of NOID in question?
Pic 3 & 4 are Neo 'Mr Odean'
Pic 5 is Neo 'Midnight Moment'.

Cheers Trish
ianperry

December 12, 2012
2:44 AM

Post #9356169

Hi all, another dry day with a bit of wind building up tonite. We also had a few drops of rain, could you call it that and now a clear sky. A stove repair today so no work with my broms, i have to eat first so that I can do other things.
Yay success with Quesnelia seeds ,some have germinated sort of today 8 days after planting.
Nev that Bil if it is the big red one is Catherine wilson. It has nice colour I think.
That plant Stars and Bars reminds me of one that I think Trish posted a few months ago and called it Twotone. I am not saying it is the same plant but I am just going on memory and think i see similarities. I could also be barking up the wrong tree. It is a beautiful plant no matter what it's name is.
Sue Some of the orchids were mine but I got dissilusioned with them, I knew it all and couldn't learn. She now buys them and expects me to look after them. The get the same treatment as my broms. that is all i have time for.
I have to build some crash barriers over my outside broms to keep the palm fronds from falling on them. That is an early next year project. Unlike Trish i am not going to climb to remove them.
There are lots of nice piccies shared by everyone.
I haven't seen or heard anything of mike since i joined here.
Oh No Very cherry seems a popular plant here
Have a good one
ian
Pic 1 Ae noid seedlings planted 24 06 12
Pic2 Neo mini noid in a 3" pot
Pic 3 Bil Catherine wilson some time ago
Pic 4 Bil Estrelle
Pic 5 Bil Noid

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 12, 2012
4:04 AM

Post #9356185

Trish i really like your photo 2 Noid, 'Mr Odean' and 'Midnight Moment', very nice. A purple and white Vanda, i would have loved to see the photo of them flowers, damn computers.
Ian look at these two tones, i dont know what mine is but ive never seen anything like it. http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7627#7627

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perke_patch

December 12, 2012
4:42 AM

Post #9356196

Hi everyone. after a busy weekend we have had a busy day today. very early start and we took Johnny's sister Patricia to see Ross Little. Trisha has just started collecting broms so we were keen to see her reaction to Pingrove Nursery. It was like watching a kid on christmas morning seeing their presents and deciding which one to play with first. LOL. We had to go down there t get some more large alc extensas while he still had them. we have been going through them at our sales. Anyway we had a very succesful haul today albeit an expensive shopping trip. we were a but squishy with 3 of us in the front seat and the back was a bit squishy with all the broms. Tomorrow we have about 100 seedlings to pot up tomorrow now but so happy with our haul. we've saved ourselves about 2 years of growing from seed.

Shirley we were talking to someone last week who works for telstra in Brisbane. apparently the complaints dept is still in Brisbane so if you are sick of being f@##d around by their call centre staff just ask to talk to the complaints department. That way you can get someone in Australia who will probably fix your problem in the time it takes you to click your fingers. good luck. he said sometimes he has trouble understanding the call centre staff so he doesn't know how customers manage it.

Sue I was talking to Ross today and he spoke about someone in Qld posting a pic of 'Mr Odean' on fb and he told them to make sure to write their label as 'mister odean' which is the registered name not the abbreviated 'mr'. so to keep Ross happy maybe we better start calling it the full name. LOL. I wish we were a bit closer to you so we could go that bit further to pick up some blanchetiana pups. We went through all our potted ones last weekend and Johnny even cut pups straight off the plants and sold them too. as I've said before we can't get enough of them so if you find you can't get rid of yours give us a call and we'll happily take them off your hands for the right price LOL

I bought some billbergia seed today straight off the mother plant. it is hallelujah x domingos martins. both of these are strong plants so seedlings should be good. anyhow I thought the seed was a bit expensive at $5 for a single pod but hey I'd already said I would buy some before price was spoken so my fault. he listed some good crosses coming up that he would have seed to sell so I'm tempted. I bought 2 pots of his domingos martins x windigig special. pots were full of tubes of nice black bills so looked great. worth $10 I thought. I'll get a pic tomorrow for you to see. I didn't even take my camera with me today as I've been to Pinegrove so many times I didn't think there would be anything new to take pic of. I should have known better as there is always something flowering so I missed a good pic shot of ae maria reginia in flower (I think that is what it is called). anyway t was a nice pic missed.

for those of you who haven't any chance of getting to Wardell near Ballina in NSW to see Pinegrove Nursery there is the shadehouse areas and then there is a heap of bush down the back where Ross plants the mothers and he purchased the property with the bush planted with broms on the ground and in the trees. sometimes the weight of the broms has snapped the branch off and it is just sitting on the ground covered in broms. it is mind boggling to see foliage vriseas in clumps in among neos, aechmeas, hohenbergias, billbergias and anything else you can think of all mixed in together. Ross has been there for years now and when something flowers down the back that hasn't flowered there before he gets to name another clump of previously NOIDs. there are still plants down there that he is waiting to flower so he can positively ID. we got another aechmea arapensis this time with a good clump of roots so should have success with growing it this time. last one was cut off to high and rotted off. I'll find the pics of previous visit for you.

Pic 1 is arapensis. the stem is like a piece of wood with this large hard clump on top. natives used these as a weapon apparently. I collected seed from Ross's plant down the back.
pic 2 is billbergia Alan Ladd which Ross is selling for big $$$$. he has just flowered and crossed it and is waiting for seed for form. I want one ...
pic 5 is billbergia Maurie's ladd which I really really want a pup of but again he has flowered, crossed and is waiting for seed.
pic 3 is vr bituminosa growing in the bush down the back.
pic 4 is dykia naked lady which was flowering last time we were there and today the seed was flying everywhere with the wind so Helen had to get a bag and give it a good shake to collect as much seed as she could.

There seemed to be a lot more branches down in the bush this time and a lot more sunshine getting through to the broms so I think there has been a bit of wind down there lately. Ross may have to remove the damaged shadecloth and replace it with some new to protect his stock plants.

Thanks to all those who are caring enough to ask after Max. After I posted about his bad night and sleepy day he has been having several days of really good health and you wouldn't even know he has anything wrong. he is starting to clear his throat a bit but not too bad last couple of days. we know another bad day will come but while we are having good days we will keep on as we are. Thanks for being caring mates.

well time for bed again. sitting in a passenger seat is sooooooo tiring isn't it LOL

night all
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 12, 2012
5:21 AM

Post #9356208

Hi everyone, it has been relatively cool here today … strange weather, heat waves, cold winds, heavy rain … what next?

Sue, the palms in the foreground of my pic are actually Spindle palms. They were rather untidy when they were smaller as the leaf shafts remained on the trunk after the frond died and they were difficult to remove but the palms have been there about 25 years now and are self cleaning. The seeds can be a bit messy so I generally remove them before the pods open. Most of the palms in the background are Foxtails, lovely palms but also rather messy with lots of very large orange seeds.

Yes Sue, I am hoping that we keep our internet access though we are experiencing problems again. And I always enjoy going to Wendy’s sales, already looking forward to the next one.

Bree, love your pics, especially your Stars n Bars.

Nev, I am just so infuriated with BigPond and their service … what service, you say ... I am about to explode. Anyway, the steam coming out of my ears is fogging up the monitor so I’ll go get a cuppa and calm down.

I can’t take the credit for the size of the Galactic Warrior, Nev, as I bought it only a few months ago and other than removing a nice pup, I haven’t done a thing, though it does have much better colour now. I will post a pic of when I purchased it and a recent one for comparison. By the way, love your Neo. 'Broulee Beauty', do you have any spare pups, I would love one of those. And I can see why you are chasing neo Ipswich Gold.

Trish, I have placed succulents under the palms as I don’t want to risk harming my broms if the fronds fall, though they do seem to hang for a couple of days prior to dropping and if I am vigilant I can pull them away from any plants underneath. Succulents are virtually indestructible and if they happen to get broken, the bits will usually all grow anyway. My broms are a different story, they are a protected species. Love your neo Mister Odean.

Wendy, glad to hear Max is feeling good again. He seemed fine last Friday so I was really disappointed to hear he was crook. Do you remember the tillandsia x 3 on the piece of wood I got from you … would you know the name of the till please. And you know those totem rings, I was so keen to put them up and add broms … well, our steel posts are skinnier so now we have to try to tighten them to make them fit … bugger.

We may take your advice and try the BigPond complaints department. I know Michael did speak to them a couple of weeks ago, might be time to get back to them. And lucky you, with your brom haul, you’ll have to have another sale to make room :o)

Hi to everyone else, I’m still catching up with my reading after missing a week’s posts.

Bye for now, Shirley


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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 12, 2012
11:53 AM

Post #9356468

good Morning all. What a nice spot of reading to do this morning.
Shirley, glad to hear the spindle palms are not too hard to keep clean. I've seen the fronds from the Cuban Royals, which line the road to the botanic gardens here, and they are massive! They would certainly damage anything planted underneath. We only have bangalows and Alexander palms, but they are beginning to get some height on them now, and it is getting harder to remove the fronds before they fall, but both hubby and I are quite vigilant.
Good luck with the complaints department. I hope it is sorted before xmas.
Your xNeophytum 'Galactic warrior'is a beaut. I have one from Nev, that I must have a look at. It is hanging up near the top of the brom house, slightly forgotten! Yours has coloured up well since you got it!
Wendy, it sounds like you had another great visit at Ross'. There is always something to see there. I was there once when the Aechmea mariae-reginae was in flower too. Its a big plant!
Depending on what you call the right price, there are quite a few spare blanchettianas here if you want any, but most are damaged by wind , cold, or sun burn, so I am slowly going through and removing damaged leaves, as well as repotting any that are in need. They are quite bitey too!
There have been plants of Billbergia 'Domingos martins' x 'Hallelujah' floating around in Coffs for a couple of years, and they are very similar to B. 'Domingos Martins' in size and colour. I would think it pretty hard to improve on one or the other? It will be interesting to see how yours turn out. Very steep price for one pod, I agree.
As for Neoregelia 'Mister Odean' I was quoting the spelling on the label, so now must go and correct it. Poor Ross. It must be hard having a name fetish! I think every time I have visited with him, he has a bee in his bonnet about some name or other. Thanks to people like him and Derek Butcher (and others) at least we are informed and things get sorted out...eventually!
While we are correcting names, Wendy, did you know that you spell Vriesea wrong? Been meaning to tell you for ages. just needed the right reminder.
Ian, congratulations on your new stove and your gemination success! What did you cook to christen your stove?
Luckily for your wife, and the orchids, orchids seem to thrive on the same care as bromeliads, at least in my experience anyway.
Another nice lot of photos for us there too, I see.
Trish, my Neo. 'Mister Odean' was similar in colour to yours, while it was growing in the garden under shade from the trees, but now it is in the brom house, under 70% beige cloth, but getting all day light. I was surprised to see it getting so much colour. I wonder how much more it will get? I'm not sure that I like it, as I was attracted to the 'wood finish' initially.
I think the same as you, that N. Red Macaw' and N. 'Cockabell' are very similar. I tried to find out on the Bromeliad photo index, but no parents are listed for either, and the link to 'Uncle Derek says' (on N. 'Cockabell') doesn't appear to work.
The NOID Neo I posted previously, doesn't change colour more, from memory. This was the first pup. The original plant was a big green Neo, similar to a 'Gee Whizz' that doesn't get enough light, but not a Gee Whizz. I introduced it to more light, because I knew it had to be more than a green plant, else why would the grower have it at all? I did gro the first one in more light, almost full sun, and it was a bit more yellow, but this one is grown under the 70% beige, which usually gets the best from the neos.
Nev, I do think it might have concentrica in it. (same NOID as above)
I get my nutricote from the horticultural supplier. Its quite exxy, as i buy it in a big bag, but it lasts me years. I am down to my last 4 litres though, so will have to scare myself and put in an order, and see how much it is now! I used to work in a wholeslae nursery, and thats what thy used, so I followed their example. I noticed i had already sprinkled some around both Aechmea 'Rodco's when i potted them, so i will pick the bits off the one i will not fertilise.
I may have a pup off N. 'Cockabell' if you find you dont have one. I am selling the mature one this weekend (if I get a buyer) and have two pups in the garden. I only need to keep one.
I'm pretty sure I have some of your N. 'Mister Odean' seedling crosses. I will go and see how thy are getting on, today.
I love the neo in your second pic. It has some very nice colour. well done
Seems the computer is telling me I've been on too long, so lucky last...
Bree, I also bought a Neo. 'Stars and Bars' from Ebay. I was dissappointed with it, and on sold it before it matured. I wish i had held onto it now, as the mature one looks quite interesting. I like the white centre. I also like your Neo. 'Ring Leader'
Photo one is Neo 'Ashanti' I'm am guessing that is the maximum colour. It IS alot like Cliff siverd'?
Photo two is Billbergia 'Peggy Sue' which I thought might be good breeding stock? just for the dark colouring.
photo three is for Nev. Whats that in hubbys hand?
Sue




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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 12, 2012
2:08 PM

Post #9356559

Hi everyone out there in “Brom World”, I hope everyone's well and all those who were unwell are now recovering OK.

Bree – Your 'Stars 'n Bars' looks a bit different now that you show more of the green in the outside of the leaves. Even though it doesn't look like the one that is registered under that name, I think it's a more attractive plant and could you put my name down for a swap when you get a spare pup please?

Bree you've just clearly demonstrated why we can't ID a plant accurately from a picture. The three pic's of Neo. 'Two Tone' on the BCR link you provided look nothing like each other. And if shown as three separate pictures without names, I'll bet everyone would think they were three different plants.

Trish – Pleased to hear you got a bit of rain even though it wasn't much. Isn't it amazing how nice and fresh just a brief shower can make the garden smell? Wouldn't it be good if we could just go to Bunnings whenever we wanted to and buy a big bottle of rain with all the special additives in it to freshen up the garden at will. I suppose when you think about it, that's what all gardeners have been trying to come up with for centuries as we add fertiliser and trace elements to the water we put on our plants, but we never seem to be able to truly emulate Mother Nature do we?

What you say about trying to get all of the work in the garden done within the available time available outlines the following facts; when we are young and fit we never seem to get it all done as there are so many other things to do and lack of sufficient time is the problem. When we get old and are retired, we seem to have plenty of time but we're not as fit as we once were and consequently everything takes longer to achieve. I know that for myself, things that once took me half an hour now seem to take me half a day, so I guess it all balances out in the end.

Your comment on Sue's Neo. 'Mister Odean' prompts me to also say that my plant is a bit darker than Sue's as well, but then I've seen a lot of pic's of this plant and none of them seem the same so maybe it's just one of those plants which are more affected by the amount of light they receive than others.

As for the possibility of Neo. 'Cockabell' and Neo. 'Red Macaw' being related; I guess we'll never know as as they are both from different sources. Neo. 'Cockabell' was a Hummel hybrid (1977) and it's now common knowledge, for some reason Hummel never gives the names of any parents when registering plants. To read the whole article and see the pic's go to: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3663#3663

All that is recorded about Neo. 'Red Macaw' is that it was registered by J Catlan; no date is recorded but it was seed grown by K Bradtberg AU and it has links with Neo. Johannis. To see pic, go to http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=6668#6668

Thanks for the kind words about my posts and I hope you all enjoy reading them as much as I like writing them, you see , while I write these posts, it helps to keep my old brain and arthritic fingers working.

In regards to Neo 'Oh No Very Cherry', I always remember what I was once told by a very experienced brom/orchid grower, and that was, “never trust the name on a name tag”. Like most people, I use the name that was on the plant when I first obtained it until I can prove it's wrong either by looking at records or being told by a respected grower that it's incorrect. I think that's all any of us can do; we will never be able to control what other people do and while ever people continue to give plants “pet names”, the problem just gets worse. Also thanks for the “thumbs up” on the name of 'Leprosa' for my Nidularium.

Ian – It seems that rain keeps avoiding you and you just can't seem to get a decent soaking. Maybe Santa Claus will bring you some rain for Christmas.

It's good to see you've had some success with your Quesnelia seeds. All we have to do now is wait and see what they turn out to be; either a selfing, a cross with another Quesnelia or perhaps even a new bi-generic cross, who knows? Your Ae. NOID seedlings are looking good also and it looks like you'll have a few more surprises with them also; isn't it interesting growing from seed; surprises, surprises surprises.

Wendy - What you say about what Ross said about Neo. 'Mister Odean' has really caught me out going against my own advice to others. I always accepted the name Mr. O'Dean as being correct as that was what was on the name tag of my plant when I got it from a respected Mail Order Bromeliad Nursery; seems you can't even trust the professional any more either.

The cost of your Bill seed depends on how many seeds are in the pod, if there are enough seeds to sow a whole take-way container (about 30 seeds), well I think that's a fair price. These prices vary a lot depending on how much seed the hybridiser has, how rare it is and how difficult it is to cross initially, so I guess everything is relevant. It sounds to me that you've paid Allan Ladd a visit, as he lists Bill. crosses using those parents and I've bought quite a bit of seed from him in the past and can recommend it as good quality as I've always had good results. I like the plant of Bill. 'Maurie's Ladd'; is it another of Allan Ladd's hybrids?

Very pleased to hear that Max is rallying and having some good days at last, lets hope this keeps on and you and Johnny can continue to give him the love and care he's become accustomed to.

Shirley – Good to see you're back and posting again and making up for lost time. Isn't it infuriating when the internet connection goes down and you can't keep up with all of the posts; and then when it comes back on again you have such a backlog of reading to do you think you'll never catch up; at least that's what happened to me.

I'm sorry but I forgot to add to that pic of Neo. 'Broulee Beauty' I posted , that it's not a "registered name" and very likely a “pet name” given by either the hybridiser or the grower who possibly lived in Broulee. Whatever the name is, I still think it's an attractive plant and it seems you like it also.

That's a nice plant of 'Galactic Warrior'; the trick is now to keep it growing as well and try and get the pup up to the same size; if you can do that, you'll know you are doing all the right things.

Sue – I'm running very late this morning and whenever this happens there is always heaps of reading to do, but I'm not complaining as it's great to see so many people posting.

I also have a couple of plants of two different hybrids from Billbergia 'Domingos Martins' x 'Hallelujah' which originally came from Allan Ladd. I think he's used both of these as well as Windigig Special as parents in his Bill. Breeding programme for a while now and I wouldn't be surprised if the ones you say are floating around the Coffs area came from him originally as well. I have to agree with you as I think it would need to be a pretty “special” seedling that was better than either Hallelujah or Domingos Martins.

It seems like me, you too have been caught out with the Mister Odean label,. and how well I know of Ross's obsession for correcting incorrect names, it seems it's been a crusade of his for years. It's a pity a few more of these knowledgeable brom. growers didn't follow in his footsteps.

I'd really love to swap a pup of Neo. 'Cockabell' if you have one to spare, so if you drop me a D-Mail and tell me what you would like in return we can sort something out.

My 'Mister Odean' seedlings are just starting to show a little colour now, although they are growing in less than ideal light. I think I'll move some under the beige shade cloth and see what eventuates.

That's great colour in your 'Ashanti' I hope mine colours up that much; I do have it beneath beige shade cloth and that's the best light it's going to get down here so I'll just have to wait and see. Nice “barring” on your Bill 'Peggy Sue' also (reminds me of a song when I was a lad).

I'm just now looking at your pic 3; that's better, now everyone can see just what a monster this Alcantarea really is and the spike certainly can't be cut off with ordinary secateurs. That's where Bill and the chain saw come in, but tell Bill not to get his whiskers tangled up in the chain, Ouch!

That'll do me for today and I'll finish with two pic's of Neo 'Mister Odean' (from various sources, but not mine) for comparison and also some Neo. Midnight Moment pic's taken of my plant in different seasons.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 13, 2012
12:39 AM

Post #9356991

Hi Everyone!

Another day closer to the weekend – yeah!

Well I managed to get a couple of broms potted last night so I was pleased with that but I still have a good 12 left to pot and we have visitors arriving Saturday so I better get a move along as the weekends are going to be a blur from here into the New Year.

Nev / Shirley I will be posting the Pink Gingers to you this Saturday morning, hope you get them in time for Xmas?

Hi Bree the Pic 2 NOID I posted yesterday and the day before is of the mother of the pup I have growing just about ready to post in the mail to you. Can you please D-Mail me with your Contact/Postal info when you get a chance. Glad to hear you still like it though lol, it will be great in your garden because it can take a lot of sun as it has thick leathery leaves so will do great in your garden and pups well. The pup I have for you is just starting to get some flecks of color.

Bree I will try to find a pic of my Vanda in flower, I remember when I brought it from an Orchid show this year it grew two beautiful large flower spikes each side of the Orchid with a wonderful spray of flowers that were just gorgeous, anyway hopefully I am able to track down the photos otherwise hopefully the next time it flowers I will take some pics to post.

Bree I will re-post a pic of Neo ‘Two Tone’ which is very different to your Neo ‘Stars and Bars’, good try though Ian for taking a guess.

Hi Wendy, sounds like you and Johnny are going to be very busy indeed potting up those 100 seedlings and will have saved 2 years up your sleeves. Sounds like you came home with a great haul of broms and that you did very well. Look forward to seeing pics of your newly acquired purchases.

Wendy we are so pleased to hear that Max is doing better, thanks for keeping us up to speed on how he is going.

Ian it would be great to see the contraption you are thinking of building to catch palm fronds falling on your broms. Yeah I know climbing on the roof to cut palm fronds sounds a bit daunting but I am not scared of heights and because the palm tree is so close to our house roof top I think it would be the easiest approach for me.

Hi Shirley thank for clarifying that under those large beautiful palm trees of yours sits Succulents not Bromeliads, as you say at least if they get smashed with a palm frond bits of the succulents will just break off and grow again, they are not lost forever. I have a collection of succulents at home that I really like because they are so easy to grow and strike cuttings from.

Shirley I adore the pics you posted of Galactic Warrior, their leaf spans are massive, what a standout of the crowd brom they are.

Shirley best of luck with sorting out your internet issues with the complaints dept, I hope matter gets sorted before Xmas.

Hi Sue that explains why your Neo ‘Mister Odean’ has different coloring to mine, yeah mine lives outside and gets sun up until about 11am, I have a couple of identical pairs of them in different parts of the garden and they are exactly the same color. I do still like yours though just color is so much softer in color.

Oh Sue I adore the Xmas pic you posted of Hubby and You and the Chainsaw, too funny! You guys look like such a happy go lucky, down to earth kind of people, I was so pleased that you posted the pic to share with all of us. You look great in your garden attire sporting tools and all, that’s kind of how I get around in the garden and I am sure my hubby hates that I wear the same baseball cap all the time which is my Hamilton Island Renegade Fishing Charters cap that I luv but has seen better days.

Sue the Neo ‘Ashanti’ pic you posted is gorgeous; I already have this one on my Want List because my favorite color is purple. I have seen it on EBay a couple of times but got out bided – darn lol. Anyway sooner or later I will track one down I just have to learn to be patient along with the others on my Want List.

Hi Nev yes wouldn’t it be great if we could by a big bottle of rain with all the right additives from Bunnings, trouble is I would constantly be spraying it in my face to get a fix given how much I have missed it lol.

Yeah Nev maybe everything balances out in the end when it comes to having enough time in the garden. I know that since been in the Mining Industry instead of the Construction Industry that this has well and truly freed up some of my weekend time as I used to have to work most Saturdays, as well as I used to bring a lot work home with me during the week and worked late hours. Now I have every weekend off and find time during the week to run personal errands during my lunch break, catch up with friends for lunch. I was pleased with myself this year because I got to get my Xmas cards out in time and that’s not normally the case.

Nic Pics you posted Nev of Neo ‘Mister Odean’ and the different seasons of Neo ‘Midnight Moment’, you could easily think these are of all different broms when they are all the same.

Anyway that’s it for me this evening.

Big Hi to Anyone looking in and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 – Neo ‘Two Tone’ (Mother and Pups – pic taken a year ago) 4394
Pic 2 – Neo ‘Two Tone (close up of pup) 4397
Pic 3 – Neo ‘Two Tone (close up of old mum) 4395
Pic 4 Hi Everyone!

Another day closer to the weekend – yeah!

Well I managed to get a couple of broms potted last night so I was pleased with that but I still have a good 12 left to pot and we have visitors arriving Saturday so I better get a move along as the weekends are going to be a blur from here into the New Year.

Nev / Shirley I will be posting the Pink Gingers to you this Saturday morning, hope you get them in time for Xmas?

Hi Bree the Pic 2 NOID I posted yesterday and the day before is of the mother of the pup I have growing just about ready to post in the mail to you. Can you please D-Mail me with your Contact/Postal info when you get a chance. Glad to hear you still like it though lol, it will be great in your garden because it can take a lot of sun as it has thick leathery leaves so will do great in your garden and pups well. The pup I have for you is just starting to get some flecks of color.

Bree I will try to find a pic of my Vanda in flower, I remember when I brought it from an Orchid show this year it grew two beautiful large flower spikes each side of the Orchid with a wonderful spray of flowers that were just gorgeous, anyway hopefully I am able to track down the photos otherwise hopefully the next time it flowers I will take some pics to post.

Bree I will re-post a pic of Neo ‘Two Tone’ which is very different to your Neo ‘Stars and Bars’, good try though Ian for taking a guess.

Hi Wendy, sounds like you and Johnny are going to be very busy indeed potting up those 100 seedlings and will have saved 2 years up your sleeves. Sounds like you came home with a great haul of broms and that you did very well. Look forward to seeing pics of your newly acquired purchases.

Wendy we are so pleased to hear that Max is doing better, thanks for keeping us up to speed on how he is going.

Ian it would be great to see the contraption you are thinking of building to catch palm fronds falling on your broms. Yeah I know climbing on the roof to cut palm fronds sounds a bit daunting but I am not scared of heights and because the palm tree is so close to our house roof top I think it would be the easiest approach for me.

Hi Shirley thank for clarifying that under those large beautiful palm trees of yours sits Succulents not Bromeliads, as you say at least if they get smashed with a palm frond bits of the succulents will just break off and grow again, they are not lost forever. I have a collection of succulents at home that I really like because they are so easy to grow and strike cuttings from.

Shirley I adore the pics you posted of Galactic Warrior, their leaf spans are massive, what a standout of the crowd brom they are.

Shirley best of luck with sorting out your internet issues with the complaints dept, I hope matter gets sorted before Xmas.

Hi Sue that explains why your Neo ‘Mister Odean’ has different coloring to mine, yeah mine lives outside and gets sun up until about 11am, I have a couple of identical pairs of them in different parts of the garden and they are exactly the same color. I do still like yours though just color is so much softer in color.

Oh Sue I adore the Xmas pic you posted of Hubby and You and the Chainsaw, too funny! You guys look like such a happy go lucky, down to earth kind of people, I was so pleased that you posted the pic to share with all of us. You look great in your garden attire sporting tools and all, that’s kind of how I get around in the garden and I am sure my hubby hates that I wear the same baseball cap all the time which is my Hamilton Island Renegade Fishing Charters cap that I luv but has seen better days.

Sue the Neo ‘Ashanti’ pic you posted is gorgeous; I already have this one on my Want List because my favorite color is purple. I have seen it on EBay a couple of times but got out bided – darn lol. Anyway sooner or later I will track one down I just have to learn to be patient along with the others on my Want List.

Hi Nev yes wouldn’t it be great if we could by a big bottle of rain with all the right additives from Bunnings, trouble is I would constantly be spraying it in my face to get a fix given how much I have missed it lol.

Yeah Nev maybe everything balances out in the end when it comes to having enough time in the garden. I know that since been in the Mining Industry instead of the Construction Industry that this has well and truly freed up some of my weekend time as I used to have to work most Saturdays, as well as I used to bring a lot work home with me during the week and worked late hours. Now I have every weekend off and find time during the week to run personal errands during my lunch break, catch up with friends for lunch. I was pleased with myself this year because I got to get my Xmas cards out in time and that’s not normally the case.

Nic Pics you posted Nev of Neo ‘Mister Odean’ and the different seasons of Neo ‘Midnight Moment’, you could easily think these are of all different broms when they are all the same.

Anyway that’s it for me this evening.

Big Hi to Anyone looking in and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 – Neo ‘Two Tone’ (Mother and Pups – pic taken a year ago) 4394
Pic 2 – Neo ‘Two Tone (close up of pup) 4397
Pic 3 – Neo ‘Two Tone (close up of old mum) 4395
Pic 4 – Neo ‘Sweet Dreams’ 4373
Pic 5 – Neo ‘Flirtation’ 4376

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 13, 2012
3:18 AM

Post #9357017

Oops sorry Everyone!

Looks like I copied and pasted my blurb from Word Twice lol?

Ignore the numbers noted after each of my pictures as they are my photo numbers that I type in my Word doc so I remember each pic I want to post, but I am supposed to delete them prior to sending off my post, silly billy me.

Thank god tomorrows Friday he he.

Speak to you all over the weekend hopefully.

I'm off to bed as my eyes are hanging out of my head and my brain feels like it's fried.

Trish

perke_patch

December 13, 2012
4:56 AM

Post #9357037

Hi everyone.
late again tonight. we have Emily sleeping over tonight. she is on the camp stretcher in the office beside me watching cartoons on my TV. I had to sit on the computer waiting for an online auction to finish so I could win a new matress for our bed. 2 nights ago I got pipped at about $180 so was thrilled tonight to win a Slumberest pillow top mattress at about $150. saved money by missing other night. So tomorrow we have to go to Archerfield to collect our new matress. woohoo. I didn't tell Johnny that I also got 5 cartons of rolls of galvanised wire. each carton has 5 rolls in it so that's 25 rolls of wire. can't imagine what he will say when he finds out but I only made 1 bid and nobody outbid me so I got them for around $10. not bad when 1 roll at Bunnings today was $8. Shirley if you need any wire we will have some to spare next time you come over.

Shirley with those totem rings I'm sure Johnny can roll them for the thinner pipe for you. he used to do different sized pipes in the old type but I think he has only been making one size in the new type. other option is to grab a piece of pipe from here next time and use the totem rings on that as a freestanding totem in the shadehouse. let me know what size your pipe is and Johnny can adapt a few rings to that size. he hasn't finished rolling them yet. we won't get them to his brothers work now to get them galvanised before Christmas.

I'm ready for bed again now so I'll say goodnight and post picstomorrow night. trying to work our my new samsung galaxy phone too before I go to bed. damn I just thojught about all the number on the old phone. they'll all have to e reentered into new phone.

Night
Wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 13, 2012
5:34 AM

Post #9357049

Hi all, well it’s Friday tomorrow, another week over, another week older

Sue, I checked out my neos Red Macaw and Cockabell today and they appear very similar, the neo Cockabell showing slightly more colour … I will post a pic of both. Love your pics, especially hubby with the chainsaw ... and what a fantastic alcantarea.

Nev, thanks for pointing out that the name of neo Broulee Beauty is likely a pet name and is not registered but I think it’s gorgeous and I would love a pup if and when you get a spare one. I have noticed lots of pups on my neos so should have quite a few to swap soon.

Trish, looking forward to getting the gingers, thanks again. I adore your neo Two Tone, do you still have my name down for a pup when you have a spare. Glad you like my Galactic Warrior. I have another pup coming along nicely, still too small to remove as yet, maybe you would like that … let me know.

Wendy, sounds like you made a couple of good buys with your new mattress and the 25 rolls of gal wire. I am guessing you are not up for postage as that would take the shine off the wire LOL. If Johnny is able to roll some totem rings to suit 25 ml pipe that would be great, if not, no problem. What a shame you can’t email all the numbers entered in your old phone to your new one and have it download the list, or something!!

Anyway that’s it for me. Pics are 1 neo Red Macaw, 2 neo Cockabell

Bye for now, Shirley

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 13, 2012
11:47 AM

Post #9357354

Good morning.
Nev, you might get a chance to get in before me today. I had a few emails to answer and a bit of research to do on Millipedes this morning.
I love the pics of your Neoregelia 'Mister Odean', and in the second photo, it shows concentrica traits, yes?
I meant to say yesterday, that I enjoy your long winded posts, and wish I had the time and patience to go to such trouble to reply in depth, as you do. Don't ever change!
I'm pretty sure i have come accross that name Neo. 'Oh No Very Cherry' in the past. I think my neighbour bought a plant with that label. I will have to check, and if it is, maybe get a picture to compare with Trish's plant.
Trish, i am as keen as bree to see the Vanda photos. I do hope you can find them.
The photo of us in the garden is me in my usual garden clobber. I sometimes wish I had a glamorous job, where i can dress up, but I'd spoil it all by stopping to pull weeds on my way out the gate, or get mud splashed on me or something. I usually have mud on my knees and leaves in my hair, as well as an odd assortment of bugs and spiders. It drives my husband demented.
Trish, as N. 'Ashanti' is flowering, it won't be too long before she pups. I know a few members here have the same plant, so you will have no trouble getting this one. just remind us all in a few months.
Wendy, what a bargain on your mattress. We bought one from a store some time back, and it cost us nearly $1000! Unfortunately, living here has disadvantages, such as local pick up, because not many listings in any category on Ebay come from Coffs harbour or surrounds.
What will you do with the wire rolls? Good luck with your new phone. Can you not put your old sim card in and copy the numbers over? I am not savvy with all that of course, but just thought it might be done?
Shirley, thanks for posting those photos. I used to have N. 'Red Macaw' and was considering trying to get one again, but having seen how similar it is to N. 'Cockabell' i think i will save my money.
I had a visit from a lady who has a retail nursery, and she snapped up my N. 'Cockabell' for her own collection, as well as a few other nice things. I love being able to give collectors something new.
How is everything going in your garden and shade house? are you all ready for Xmas?
I had one of those days yesterday, with a list as long as my arm. I was all set to take it slowly, work my way through it, and enjoy myself by having a browse everywhere...and then hubby decided to accompany me! it was rush, rush, rush, no time to look here and there, stress, stress, whinge, moan! I was wrecked when i got home and had to have a sleep.
Anyway, I almost got everything done, except to contact the botanic garden for bree, but bree, it is on my list for first thing this morning, so i will Dmail you as soon as i know.
The rest of the day will be spent mowing (if the weather holds) and potting up a few flowering broms for the sales area, as tomorrow I have another sale...the last one untill february now.
I am still working my way through the new plants, and am constantly pulling the little weeds out to try and get them weed free. I'll get there eventually.
Sorry no pics today but I will take some as i go, and hopefully will get a bit of time to post tomorrow, or this evening if the chance arrives.
Yay, its friday!
Sue
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 13, 2012
12:48 PM

Post #9357435

Hi Everyone- It will soon be the weekend again and another week closer to Christmas.

Wendy – In your previous post you mentioned you had brought back 100 seedlings from Ross; well you can't just leave us all hanging like that you know, we want to know the names of the crosses...”pretty please”.

You also speak about Ae. 'Mariae Reginae' – This is a beautiful and unusual Aechmea and also has male and female flowers (there's a name for this but I can't remember it). A few years back I bought some seed from Ebay which grew quickly and soon I had a crop of nice little 2” high plants, and then came winter and I finished up with three plants. These have struggled ever since and were still only about 6” high last year and looking so “scabby” I got tired of looking at them and reluctantly had to accept the fact that they just won't grown down here. I contemplated giving them to some of my grower friends “up north” but they just looked so “daggy” I tossed them in the bin instead.

I meant to tell you some time back that often on Ebay you can pick up some seed at a reasonable price and apart from the Mariae Reginae, I have also bought seed from Gus Sanguinea, Bromelia Pinguin, a few different Puyas and others I can no longer remember, so it's probably worth browsing Ebay occasionally for something different.

Trish – Thanks- I'll be looking forward to receiving the Pink Ginger next week and I'll also brush up on the cultivation notes so I'm ready to get it planted.

You mention Vandas, I had a Vanda Rothchildiana I bought back when I grew orchids and in those days down here they needed a heated glasshouse, but boy was it worth the effort. When it eventually flowered it had beautiful big 5” round shaped blueish purple flowers with a beautiful perfume to boot...a really magnificent plant.

You mention the pic's I posted of Neo. 'Midnight Moment' taken at different times of the year; it's interesting to note that if you look carefully at most brom's, you will notice little subtle changes in their colour every week. The colours start out pale when they are pups and as the plants mature then so does the colour intensify. This is why so many people who buy a pup of a plant they have seen in its mature state, often think they have been sold the wrong plant, as the colour is entirely different. Then you have the other factors of fertilising and light intensities to consider which will all have a bearing on the plant colour as well. So don't be disappointed if you buy or swap a pup and it doesn't look like you thought it would, remember it's still a baby and needs to grow a bit.

I find the colouring of your plant of Sweet Dreams most unusual because when you look past the very prominent red spotting, and look closer at the leaves, they have very faint red striations in them as well which is a bit unusual. According to the BCR it is a Margaret Patterson hybrid and is a cross between 'Jewellery Shop' and 'Gespacho' (sometimes known as 'Gespachio'). When and if you ever get a spare pup you would like to swap, I would be interested, so please put my name on the back of the name tag.

This plant shouldn't be confused with another hybrid which is registered as Sweet Dream (no “s”) and was grown by G. Anderson and registered by G. Goode back in 1986. It is shown as having 'Cinnabar' as the seed parent but there is no pollen parent listed and unfortunately no pic either.

Shirley – I think I may have a spare pup of Neo. 'Broulee Beauty' (unreg.) to give it the full title, and I'll have a look over the next couple of days and get back to you. Don't worry if you don't have anything to swap at this stage, you can “owe me one”.

I meant to mention yesterday, that you're best to wait until the pups on your Galactic Warrior get a decent size before removing them. Like all brom's, although they can be removed when rather small, they won't grow into such a nice big plant if removed too soon. Obviously this won't allow you to take as many pups, but the ones you do get will be of superior quality. This has been proved many times by many different growers, and is advice well worth taking. I've trialled this statement with two of the same plants and taken pups at different times and the ones I allowed to grow large before removal grew into far better plants and the smaller ones never did attain the same size.

Sue - I nearly got in before you this morning, but once again you posted just as I was about to hit the "send " button. I sometimes think you have some way of watching when I'm about to post as it seems to happen too often.

Now that you mention it, that pic of Mister Odean certainly does clearly show the semi-concentric markings we so often see in crosses made with Neo Concentrica in the breeding. However when I checked the BCR I found that Neo. 'Roy' was used as both the seed parent and the pollen parent. So I delved back further to see what was in the parentage of Neo 'Roy' and found the seed parent was Neo. Melandonta 'Red' and the pollen parent Neo. Spectabilis 'Pinkie' both of which are species and not a sign of Neo Concentrica anywhere. However when looking at the pic's of Neo Melandonta, I can see some similarities with Concentrica although no semi-concentric rings. So it seems that in this case, Neo Concentrica is not the culprit responsible for the rings.

To finish now I have a few pic's I took yesterday Pic.1 is another of my Neo. Concentrica x [Charm x Cracker Jack] seedlings, Pic.2 is Neo. 'Lambert's Pride' an old favourite and very good grower and “pupper”. Pic.3 is another of my seedlings, this time of Neo. 'Thunderbird' x 'Lambert's Pride', I don't know if it's just me or not but I can see the Lambert's Pride influence in this seedling. Just for a change of pace Pic.4 is Vriesea 'Evita' which interestingly, changes the colour of the leaves depending on the light intensity it's grown under. This one was grown in bright light beneath beige shade cloth while it's other brothers and sisters which were grown in a more shady environment all have green leaves. Finally Pic5 shows Nidularium Longiflorum just coming into flower for Christmas.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 13, 2012
3:46 PM

Post #9357569

Hi Nev, I'm back. You're right! I wait until I see your finger poised over the send button, and I post!
I am back because I promised to get back to Bree about the botanic gardens. Bree, unfortunately the glass house isn't open on weekends, because of a theft some time back. Only the rare bromeliads were taken. There are no gardeners present on weekends to keep watch, hence it is only open weekdays. However, there is a 10am tour of the gardens, on the third sunday of every month, and Ros, who feilded my phone call, made a suggestion to remind the tour guide to take the key for the glasshouse, as it is a long walk back to the front office if they forget.
you can peep through the windows of the glasshouse, but it is not the same. Ros also mentioned that they often don't label the plants until they are established, as they noted plants with labels were often theived first. Once established in the ground, they are a bit harder to remove. Sad eh?
Anyway, stinking hot outside, and I have lawns to mow. I'd like to leave it until later, but there are some black clouds hovering about, and i don't know if they will hold off. I did get a bit of potting done,and washed some pots as well.
Can anyone ID these plants for me?
First, is photo one Aechmea fendlerii?
photo two, which Aechmea is this?
photo three is the same plant.It is large-ish. Sorry the flower isn't mature yet. If they don't sell this weekend, I will be able to post a photo as it grows.
Now, photo four is a fairly widely grown one, I just can't rmember its name.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 14, 2012
1:12 AM

Post #9357818

Hi all, I am still catching up on earlier posts so I’m a bit behind in my responses

Nev, Trish, I have neo Grace x Break of Day but it is quite different to the one you posted, Trish. It’s a large grower, pink and blotchy … not as nice as your ‘gold form’. I’ll post a pic of an older pup and I have a couple more which are almost large enough to remove if you’re interested. I also found a couple of good sized pups on a neo which is named chlorostricta F2X which is quite attractive and it’s nice underneath too. I have two pups if anyone wants one.

Sue, everything is going well in the garden and shadehouses. And no, we haven’t done all of the Xmas shopping yet, it’s all just too hard. The shopping centres this time of year are mayhem, and parking an ordeal. We have sent off the gifts for the grandkids interstate and overseas but have been slack in shopping for the three who live locally.

Sue, you will have to sneak off without hubby next time so you can do your shopping in peace. Good luck with your sale tomorrow, hope the weather is kind. Gee, it’s hard to believe that anyone would be low enough to steal plants from a glasshouse in botanic gardens, and how brazen must they be. But then, I guess anyone looking on would assume they were employees rearranging or replacing exhibits … unbelievable.

We’re off to buy a new TV tomorrow as one of the two we have going most nights tossed it in last night. We don’t watch a lot of TV as this time of year it’s mostly crap anyway, but gee, when it’s not there you really miss it. We watch the one that went bung from the kitchen while getting dinner ready or clearing up and it’s usually news time or current affair which we like to watch. Michael also records from it while we are watching the other one in the family room and it can’t be seen from the kitchen so we’ll have to replace it.

We went to Sizzlers for lunch today with our neighbours and overindulged somewhat, actually it was more of a pig out. We came home and had a nap and I won’t need to eat again till tomorrow ... I think a cuppa will suffice for dinner tonight.

Anyway, it’s after 7:00 pm so I might go organise that cuppa now.

Hi to Wendy, Jen, Ian, Bree, Colleen ... I might be back later.

Pics 1 and 2 are neo Grace x Break of Day, pics 3 and 4 are neo Chlorostricta F2X

Bye for now, Shirley






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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 14, 2012
1:24 AM

Post #9357820

Oops, guess I resized that last one twice. I'll try again ...

While I'm at it, pic 2 is the first pup from my Skotaks Tiger ... I have another coming along nicely and pic 3 is my lovely Groves Red Tiger pup, thanks to Wendy.

Bye now, Shirley

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ianperry

December 14, 2012
4:09 AM

Post #9357850

Hi all, seems like my plants moved last weekend like their new position. Well at least they show no signs of wind or sun burn. I dug some of the pots in to the garden soil today and watered these. This is to save on water and make the plants more stable against falling over.More to do tomorrow and I will add some mulch as well.
I have decided that i like Twotone as a juvenile more than as an adult plant, just my taste. I would like to see juvenile stars and bars knowing what the adult plant looks like.
Sue, I don't know enough to confirm or deny Ae fendleri, but i have posted a pic of mine, taken this afternoon. It certainly has different colours and the spike on mine is taller. Mine is growing in full sun and that could be all the difference. The flower looks right though.
I wonder if pic 4 of yours could be Ae chianti of some sort. anyway that is enough from me.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae fendleri
Pic 2 Neo red gold
Pic 3 Neo Red macaw
Pic 4 Neo correa arrujoi

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 14, 2012
11:57 AM

Post #9358179

Thanks alot for finding that out for me Sue. Bummer the gardens are not open on saturday and thats defenatly low to steal from them. Well im not working today so might have to come to your sale Sue. Just need to go outside and water my orchids now and get ready. We stayed up all night with my family having our early xmas dinner (my partner had to go to work this morning and wasnt impressed) ha!
Love that neo Chlorostricta F2X Shirley.
Trish ohh cool thanks!, i thought i did D-MAIL you, i'll do it again, love your two tone pics.

splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 14, 2012
1:15 PM

Post #9358243

And another good morning to all of my “Brom. Mates” - The air here this morning is very humid and salt laden after an early morning “sea mist” where I couldn't even see my back fence. These mists are something we only get two or three times a year, but they never cease to amaze me; another little quirk of Mother Nature.

Sue – Sorry I can't ID the plants in your first four pictures, probably more chance if the flowers were open, however them's the breaks. The plant in the last pic I think is Ae. 'Royal Wine', a hybrid made way back in 1946 by Mulford Foster by crossing Ae 'Victoriana' Discolour onto Ae. 'Miniata' Discolour. Royal Wine like both of its parents also has discoloured leaves and like any plant with discoloured or burgundy coloured leaves can be a little “cold sensitive”.

Shirley – I like your pic's, especially the one named Chlorosticta F2 and if it's not already spoken for I'd like one of your spare pups please, perhaps we could swap for Neo. 'Broulee Beauty' (Unreg.). It's interesting to see the shape of your Neo 'Grace' x 'Break of Day' as both parents are more compact and smaller plants and I'm wondering where it gets it's shape and larger size from. Looks like a bit of “home work” when I get a chance.

I have to agree with you about the “low life” who stole the plants from the Botanical Garden Glass House. There's always someone who want to spoil it for everyone else isn't there. They don't seem to care that these plants are there for everyone to enjoy and that some of them are quite rare and that's the only place people will get a chance to see them; all thy can think of is how much money they'll get when they sell them on.

Isn't it bloody amazing that electrical appliances always seem to choose the most inappropriate time to die! It always seems to be at a time when we're very busy and money is tight. It happened to us last week when our fridge died, and with Christmas quickly approaching, it could have died at a time when we were less dependent on it, but no; it had to be then.

Ian – I too am in the process of re-locating plants and also have to take steps like you did to stop them being blown over. I'm going to do what I tried for the first time last year and which worked well. Instead of burying the plant in the pot, you bury a second pot of the same size and firm the soil around it. You then sit your plant (pot and all), inside the pot you buried. The end result is it looks just as good, but you can move the plants without and hassles when the time for dividing comes around.

I've had a lot of trouble with wind this past year, especially with the hanging plants which face the south. The strong southerly winds cause them to knock together which causes damage to the leaves. I am currently fitting hinged frames covered with shade cloth to what is the top half of the front wall of the cloth covered roof. This will act as a barrier to the wind and the frames can be lifted up out of the way when it's not windy so everything can still be seen. I'll post some before and after pic's when the job's finished.

Bree – That's bad luck about the botanical gardens for you, but you do now have the chance to go “brom shopping” at Sue's sale, and that can't be bad thing.

A few pic's to finish with now before Sue beats me to the punch (Oh I forgot, she'll probably be too busy with her sale to be writing here today). These plants are all part of the make-over of the south facing area beside the northern fence. It is covered with green 50% shade cloth but unfortunately due to its south facing aspect, it doesn't get the light I would prefer, but then we can't have everything we want can we? Most of these plants are of larger types and are here because they take up too much bench-space in the shade houses. Pic.1 is Neo 'Rosy Morn', Pic.2 is a rather large form of Vr. Fosteriana, Pic.3 is another large one (I forget the name) but to give you some idea, it looks like a huge 'Gold Fever', Pic.4 is an old favourite Vr. Hieroglyphica and is the last of about three hundred I grew from seed a few years back. Finally, this one is also a large Neo and one I don't remember the name of either, but I like the shape and it's just starting to show a bit of colour so I live in hope.

All the best, Nev.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 15, 2012
12:28 AM

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Hi everyone, I am posting early tonight … must be due to rising early this morning to go to the local market.

Nev, are you still chasing neo Lime & Lava. At the market, one of the brom sellers had two nice Lime & Lava pups, so I bought both of them … one for me and one for you, if you are still looking for it. If you have already sourced one, no problem, I will keep both or perhaps someone else would like to have it. Anyway, it’s yours for a swap if you want it. It has little marks on a couple of its’ leaves but it’s a nice healthy pup, I will post a pic.

I will try to get a neo Chlorostricta F2 pup and the Lime and Lava (if you want it) posted early next week so that they are not held up with the Xmas public hols.

Bree, if you would like the other Chlorostricta F2 pup, just let me know.

Nev, I know what you mean about electrical appliances, trouble is, we generally find that when one thing goes, two more follow ... so fingers crossed. I shouldn’t complain as we worked out that the TV that died was probably 14 years old and we never once had an ounce of trouble with it. They don’t make ‘em like that anymore. At the risk of hexing myself, our fridge in the kitchen is more than 20 years old and working great. We have another in the games room (actually, it’s more of a storage room for good junk) and that must be getting on to 15 years old. Like I said, fingers crossed.

We got our new TV, they are so much cheaper now than they were a few years ago. We could only go to 32” as it had to fit into a cabinet. We got an LG 32” LED LCD flat screen HDMI TV with all the bells and whistles, for a little over $300.00 and it fits perfectly.

Ian, your neos Red Macaw and Correia Araujoi look quite similar. I have a neo I bought as Correa Araujoi but it’s got spots, a bit like neo Marmorata, maybe it’s incorrectly named. I’ll see if I can find a pic.

I also bought two unnamed broms at the market, an albo marginated neo which I think could be Predator but there are so many that look so much alike … can anyone help me with an ID, please. I also bought an aechmea (I think) and if anyone knows what it is, that would be great. He’s a big fella, about 2 foot high, a lovely maroon-purple-brown colour with silvery streaks and he’s a bit spikey but not overly nasty.

Pics are 1 neo Lime and Lava pup (for Nev), 2 my neo named Correia Araujoi (for Ian), 3 unnamed neo, possibly Preditor ? and 4 unnamed aechmea ?

Anyway, time to think about dinner.

Bye for now, Shirley




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ianperry

December 15, 2012
3:03 AM

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Hi all I did some deep pot watering today. I had dry tips on some plants and this is a fair indication that the plant is not getting enough water. We have had dry weather and it has been hot as well.
Shirley
Pic 2 looks like N moby dick, Pic 3 Looks like N predator as you suspect and Pic 4 looks like Hohenbergia correa arrujoi.
No pics tonight
Have a good one Ian
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 15, 2012
3:42 AM

Post #9358716

Hello everyone, posting late as I had a big day with the sale. actually it was fairly quiet, but friends arrived later in the day and we got to talking and ended up going out for dinner.
I met bree today, and she came bearing gifts! Some lovely orchid offsets to add to my collection so we did a bit of a trade. I'm happy with my lot, Bree,how about you? I'm sorry I didn't get to spend a bit more time with you, and of course, after you left it got quiet for hours!
Shirley, I second Hohenbergia correia-araujoi for your fourth photo, and also agree with the third photo being Neo. 'Predator'. How lucky were you to score those N. 'Lime and Lava's?
Your TV sounds like it might do everything, including the dishes! heh heh. Its amazing the new technology.
I also got that lovely weather you wished my way. It was a top day! I even found an interesting brom flowering, but will have to show you a pic tomorrow, as its too dark now.
Ian, I usually put the potted plants into the mulch too, then remove the pots when I know I have the position right. I showed a few new customers that technique too, as they were new to bromeliads and weren't too confident about choosing the right spot for their new purchases.
I had confirmation of A.fendlerii on the one photo,and,the same as nev, A. 'Port Wine' on the other. I knew it as soon as I heard it, as i have had this one for quite some time, just had lost the label many years ago.
Nev, i wish you still had Heiroglyphica seedlings to trade. My giant heiroglyphica is catching the eyes of everyone who sees it, and they all want one. I didn't bother planting any straight heiro seed, but did put down some crosses.It will still be a few years before any of them will be ready for sale. Have you got any interesting seedlings to trade for N. 'Cockabell'? I might wait until after New Years before sending any plants, in case there is a hold up with the large volume of Xmas mail.
I look forward to seeing what you do with the hinged wind protectors. My next project is getting hubby to cut a window in my potting shed (shipping container) to let the light in, and the hot air out. I got delivery of a big, second hand, stainless steel kitchen sink, with long bench attached, which will be ideal for washing up the pots and having a nice clen area to stack and store them. So project number two will be getting the water connected to it.
Anyway...yawn...time for beddy byes as I have had so much fresh air and sunshine that I am beat!
will drop in later tomorrow (watering and putting away to be done in the morning)
Sue
perke_patch

December 15, 2012
4:24 AM

Post #9358722

HI everyone.
I played with the new phone last night and whatever I did the contacts transferred across. My daughter in law Jess, said there is a program called 'BUMP' and if loaded you can bump 2 phones together and the contacts transfer. Not sure if this is what happened or not. maybe the numbers were saved to sim and therefore came across with it. Anyway I had a phone call on it today and I couldn't even answer it. These smart phones are smarter than me obviously. I was tapping the answer buttone when I should have been sliding it across the screen. Now why didn't I know that????? Lucky Jess came to show me how to do it a bit later. It was only my son Chris on the phone trying to see if we were home.

Nev the seedlings we got were mostly heiroglyphica but at least 2.5 years of growth so saves us growing them from seed. We also got a heap of red chestnut again 2 years of growth. I got some species seed from Ross on the proviso that I grow them and give him back some of the seedlings. That's a couple of different ones now that I am growing for him. I told him I will probably have to give him a heap of pitcairnias when they grow as I know I'm not going to have the room to grow them. I'm also over them already. They look a bit messy most of the time and only look nice when they flower. anyway I am growing lots of seed to share with Ross now. Latest lot is ae arapensis. see pic 1. this is sometimes called 'the club' as it makes a good weapon with a hard woody stem with solid hard infloresence on top. I wouldn't like to be clubbed on the head with this one. We also got a very good sized pup of this from down the back of the property with lots of roots on pup so it will take off immediately.

our auction wins were from Gray's online auctions. I have purchased a lot of stuff from them and mostly at really great prices. I got carried away last night and before I knew it I had bid on over $1,000 worth of items. now I am sitting here hoping someone will outbid me on some of them. The ones that caught me out were some planter boxes we saw when we were over there and when I bid on them I thought I was bidding on 19 of them at $9 the lot but didn't realised I had bid on them at $9 each. to make it worse I put in an auto bid with maximum bid of $19 so I'm probably going to be stuck with some expensive used pots. they were listed in 3 different lots grouped by colour and I didn't put auto bid on last 2 groups so thankfully I've been oubid on one lot (phew that was lucky). Anyway I'm now the proud owner of 15 packets of 1,000 in each packet of zip ties in 3 different sizes ... 5,000 of each size. Winning bid of $14 so not bad. so wire and now zip ties. if we have to put up another shadehouse we'll be right for those items. they are things we use a lot of so bargains.

Nev did I tell you I tickled a flowering billbergia foster's striata with quesnelia lieboniana and got 1 ripe pod on the billbergia which is growing. 5 nice seedlings. today I noticed one quite plump berry on the quesnelia so the tickle must have worked both ways. will watch for it to ripen completely. anyway now keen to tickle the tim plowman with something. can you suggest anything Nev???? we have quite a few aechmeas flowering at present so might try a few of those.

Shirley, I also love your chloristicta F2. it has a lovely shape and colour. Pic 2 is hoenbergia correa arrujoi so you can compare with you NOID pic 5. I agree with Ian that is what it is.

Oh I saw Santa in Bunnings today and he gave me a bag of mixed lollies which I've just finished last one. don't remember eating them all but just had last one so I must have. whole packet. damn there goes the diet again. damn you Santa. I should never have accepted them but I told myself they were for Emily but I didn't give them to her today when she was here. Damn damn damn.

ah well. CSI is over now so time for bed.
Night all
Wendy

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 15, 2012
2:51 PM

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Oh yes please Shirley on the Chlorostricta F2 pup (do you already have another for yourself?). I'd guess that 3rd brom is Wild Gossip but as you said theres heaps of ones that look like that.
Sue- im very happy with the broms, after i left i went and bought 2 big clay pots. I understand you couldnt stop and chat you did have a few people to sell plants to while i was there. Hope your sale went well! You have heaps of nice broms Sue, i could have bought one of each but i dont have the room for them. thanks again!!!
Yes Nev im one of the people that loved Sues massive heiroglyphica, its awsome.
1. Got this one from Sue, is it Amazing Grace or something else Sue?
2. Look at the weird markings on this one, tagged Pot of Gold but doesnt really look like that?? mines colour seem alot more maroon then red.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 15, 2012
5:11 PM

Post #9359334

Hi again everyone, another nice morning down here and hopefully another productive day in the garden coming up.

Shirley – Following what I said yesterday about your plant of Neo, 'Grace' x 'Break of Day', I followed up the past breeding history on the BCR and in the FCBS Photo Index. Unfortunately I still can't answer the question of why it is such a large “open” plant. Neo. 'Break of Day' was made by crossing Neo 'Maid of Honour' with an unknown pollen parent.

If we trace back the 'Maid of Honour' breeding line, we find that it is a result of crossing 'Ruby Jean' with Sarmentosa. As Sarmentosa is a smallish species I don't think the large size comes from there so I went back to look at what made up 'Ruby Jean'; this was the result of a crossing between Neo Chlorosticta (a smallish species) and Neo 'Fireball' (again a smallish plant) so I don't think the large size come from here either.

Neo. 'Fireball' is really an unknown quantity as far as breeding goes, some say it's a species and others say it's a hybrid. It originally came into America in 1960 with a shipment of bromeliad species for Nat De Leon from a Mr. Walter Doering of Sao Vicente Brazil and was at that time unidentified. As the years went by, Ralph Davis who was a “brom buddy” of Nat De Leon gave the plant a “pet name”of 'Fireball' because of its colour and this name seems to have stuck until this day. The plant still hasn't been formally identified or described and as this puzzle has been going on unsolved now for 52 years I don' think I'm going to find the answer either.

All the history known about the plant's parents point to smallish, more compact plants, so the puzzle still remains about where the large open size of your plant came from. Does anyone here have any answers or suggestions?

Yes I am still chasing Neo 'Lime and Lava' and would be more than happy to swap with you, and thanks for thinking of me.

Isn't it a coincidence, the new fridge we bought was an LG (Life's Good) brand as well. When the old one died, I rang up the bloke who has always serviced our white goods over the years. He is now retired, but will still do house calls to some of his long time customers, (says it keeps him in pocket money). Anyway when I asked what brand I should get, he said they are all mostly made in China now even the well know brands we have used for years, but his advice was based on the amount of times he was called to repair these appliances and he said without a doubt LG was the brand to get as he never has to repair any.

From what I've seen of Neo xCorreia-araujoi, the colours do vary considerably but the one thing that I have found with all of the ones I've seen is they are all big plants (3 feet+ across) with nice wide, thick leaves. I have one which has all of these great features except the colour which unfortunately isn't anything to write home about, see Pic.1. On the other hand the colour in yours I think is great and it should grow into a beautiful big plant. It can sometimes be similar in colour and size to Neo 'Moby Dick' as Ian says, but the leaves of my Neo 'Moby Dick' aren't as thick or as wide and that's an obvious difference.

As for your albo-marginated NOID, yes it possibly is Neo 'Predator' (Pic.2), which is widely spread around Australia and sometimes confused with a sport from it called Neo. 'Predatress' (Pic.3) also widely grown. These come from a grex which was made by C. Skotak by crossing Neo. ((carolinae x 'Painted Lady') x 'Takemura Princeps') x carolinae with Neo. 'Dark Spot'. [You'd need a long name tag to write that name wouldn't you?]. At first glance they look very similar but when you look more closely you will see that the leaf margins of Neo. 'Predator' are albo-marginated and those on Neo.'Predatress' are not.

Although not as widely spread around the country, there are also other “look-alikes”, and just four that I know of are Neo. 'Hot Gossip', Neo. 'Wild Gossip', Neo. 'Garnish and Neo. Milagro all which are more commonly grown in Northern NSW and Qld.. To add to the confusion even further, the BCR tells us that Neo. 'Hot Gossip' was previously known as Neo. Anna #40.

I have to agree with Sue and Ian about your final NOID, I too thought it was a Hohenbergia but which one I didn't know as I don't grow them. The thing is, now you have it and Neo xCorreia-araujoi, you now have to be able to pronounce the name!

Ian – Nice to see you drop in today even though you don't have any pic's for us, but your tip about the dry leaf tips is well worth remembering.

I was given a little tip a long time ago and that was... “Brown leaf tips means not enough water” and “yellow leaf tips means too much water”. This is a good indicator of possible problems.

Sue – First let me correct you when you said, “the same as nev, A. 'Port Wine' on the other“, it wasn't Ae. Port Wine, it was Ae. 'Royal Wine' (maybe you've been at the Port Wine or you're getting it confused with the Port Wine Magnolia) Ha! Ha!

You mention Vr. Hieroglyphica seedlings, I was tossing up whether to grow some more from seed or not, but the lack of space answered the question for me. I found them very easy to grow from seed though and quicker than some of the other Vrieseas I grew and for a young “chick” like you I think it would be a very worthwhile exercise as they are always easy to sell. I grew two batches, about six hundred in the first and three hundred in the second and sold them all except the one I have left. They weren't sold to commercial growers either; they really just seem to sell themselves when people see them especially if you have a pic of a nice large specimen to show what they will grow into. I had a visit from a friend and a Dutch lady who had just joined our Bromeliad Society and she wanted one of these Hieroglyphica seedlings but she had already spent her allowance on other plants, so I gave her one in a five inch pot and as a joke I said, “if you grow this well you will win a prize with it'. Two years later she won the prize for the best Vriesea in the Novice Section of our show and you couldn't have seen a more proud and happier grower. In my opinion it is still the “King” of the Vrieseas.

Wendy – I too grew some Pitcainias from seed and like you I was quickly over them also. These ones were very untidy looking plants and in my opinion looked like just “so much grass” and something I would call a “nothing plant”; but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder, isn't it?

Your Billbergia ' Foster's Striate' x Quesnelia Liboniana could be very interesting. The resulting seedlings from this particular bi-gereric cross are called xBillnelias. For years I've often though about trying to cross a Ques. Liboniana with a 'select” Billbergia as they seem very similar in form and I knew they would cross as it has been done before and there are five or six already registered on the BCR. But most have used Bill 'Nutans', (nothing special in my opinion) See: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=xBILLNELIA&id=9314#9314

As for crossing Ques. Tim Ploughmn with something else, I have seen quite a few results of this cross done by others and all it seemed to achieve was to produce a dull coloured plant minus the attractive curled leaves of the Tim Ploughman. They say for a cross to be successful, the resulting hybrids should be better than the parents either in colour, size or shape; these seedlings didn't meet any of this critera. Don't let me put you off though as you never know what will come out of the next seed pod as hybridising rules are being broken every day. I would suggest you look through the BCR and see what has been done before; this should give you an idea if it's worthwhile or not. There are crosses registered with Ques. Marmorata crossed with various Aechmeas resulting in xQuesmeas. As Ques. Marmorata is a parent of Tim Ploughman, this may be a cross worth trying. Anyway, have a look at the BCR and you will have a better idea of what to do, there's no point making the same mistakes of others is there?:
See;http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=xQUESMEA&id=9595#9595

Bree – Yes the plant in your first pic is Amazing grace and a very nice brom it is too. As for the colour change in your second plant, that may just be due to the degree of light it was grown under. I don't have this plant nor of I know of it but as we all know, colours can vary in various positions in our own yard.

To finish off this morning, firstly for Shirley; a pic of my Neo. xCorreia-araujoi (to compare with her plant) Also for comparison are the next two pic's of my plants, firstly Pic.2 Neo. 'Predator' which although it's just a pup the differences in the leaf margins with , Pic.3, Neo. 'Predatress' is very apparent. The next two are not my pic's nor plants but show a couple of look-alikes. Pic.4 Neo 'Garnish' and Pic.5 which is Neo. 'Hot Gossip'. What you need to take into account is that if all of these last three plants were grown under similar cultural conditions in the same area, they could look very similar.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 16, 2012
12:07 AM

Post #9359569

Hi Everyone!

Yes finally it’s the weekend – hooray!

It was pretty late by the time I finished work, went home got changed and went grocery shopping. We did not get home until 9pm and ate late, so best I start this thread and send it off sometime over the weekend as we are up early tomorrow as I want to get Gingers in the mail to Nev and Shirley and then we have to head into town and go present shopping for both Joe and I, we will more than likely just look at buying something we need rather than trying to think of what to buy one another.

Hi Shirley, I am so pleased to hear how excited you are about receiving the gingers I am posting tomorrow. I plan to cut the dying flower head that has all the ginger seedling growing from it, the height of each seedling is about 15+ cm each seedling but they are fast growing once they are in the ground and in the right location. Shirley / Nev, like with all small seedlings be careful not to burn them with heavy manures or fertiliser, less is more until they settle and commence growing in the spot or pot you have planted them in, once they become more established you can look at feeding them per my cultural notes. Remember Gingers luv heaps of water.
Shirley / Nev, further to above I did manage to get the Gingers posted off to you Saturday morning – yeah!

Yeah Shirley I still have you down for a pup of Two Tone, my little book reads 25/09/12 Shirley really likes Two Tone, send Shirley a pup when I have spare DON’T FORGET. I always laugh when I read the notes I leave myself. Shirley I will check on the weekend and see if there are any pups, the mum is in the retirement village and her original pups are in the garden somewhere, when I first brought the plant it had mother and two pups all in the same pot and I managed to salvage the mother before she got too bad but she is pretty beat up now and there is nothing of her but I said to Joe I will possibly get another pup off her if I keep and look after her. I will see if any of them have had pups, they last time I checked they hadn’t but you never know given another week has passed. Shirley I checked on Sunday morning but still no pups yet, I will let you know as soon as I see some pop up.

Shirley thanks I would absolutely luv a pup from your beautiful Galactic Warrior and Grace x Break of Day but only if you can spare any. I luved the pics you posted of both of these broms.

Oh Shirley before I forget I will email you with the Ginger Cultural notes as I thought this would be best that you have an electronic copy to keep. You have already D-Mailed me with your email address thanks.

Hi Bree great I will get the NOID pup organised for posting after Xmas and see if I can find anything else big enough that I can send you at the same time.

Hi Nev I like all the brom pics you posted these past couple of days, especially Neo Garnish with that deep purple/pink fleck that really catches my eye.

Hi Sue thanks so very much I received the Ae. Orange form you kindly sent me on Friday but I have some sad news to share with you, it had a broken neck and I was devastated because I unpacked it ever so carefully so it must have happened on its way to me. I kept saying to Joe ‘what a shame, ‘what a shame’ and he was so sad for me. Anyway Sue I just wanted to say thanks for trying and going to all that trouble, unfortunately I could not stick it back together with anything as there is no coming back from a broken neck for a brom – sad face. I will see if I can track one down at the markets next year sometime.

Hi Wendy, you cracked me up when I read that you ate all off Emily’s lollies, poor Santa gets the blame for everything. I saw Santa on the weekend and all I got was a wave lol so you did well.

Saturday spent half day Xmas Shopping and the other half of the day slaving over a hot stove cooking for our friends, we had 2 x Pecking Ducks with Pancakes, Fried Rice, Steamed Rice, Vegetarian Spring Rolls and Beef & Chilly Spring Rolls, Caesar Salad and Pavlova smothered in fresh berries - yum. By the time I sat down to eat and had a glass of wine or two I was ready for bed lol.

Sunday was spend putting up new shade sail in pool area, hanging new hammock, re-vamped temp shade cover I made for my broms because I was not totally happy with the first one I had constructed and wanted something a bit more sturdy as it will have to take the weight of Avocado’s and mangos falling. I also moved a lot of broms around the garden to get the best out of them colour wise. And hand watered all my broms which was a really nice way to relax and unwind at the end of a busy weekend.

Anyway sorry thread is a bit all over the show today as I am all over the show today; don’t know if I’m Martha or Arthur. Joe has been wonderful helping me with a lot and going out and getting bits and pieces that we need because he knows I have a fair bit I want to do around the house and garden before we break for Xmas.
Sorry no pics today, I will try to post during the week sometime.

Time to get dinner on.

Take care and Happy Gardening Everyone!

Trish
ianperry

December 16, 2012
12:11 AM

Post #9359571

Hi all, just potted a few more Bil seedlings today, but mostly a day to sit back relax with a book. I know the forecast is for rain tonight but the weather people have been wrong before.
I am planning to build a crash barrier for my plants and Trish asked for some details. My plan is to have a pipe frame about 6' high with some mesh on top in amongst the trees. The mesh ought to catch the branches and at 6' it would be low enough for me to remove them reasonably easily. It could also cover for more shade as necessary. Just add some shade cloth.
I have been thinking that if and when Tim plowman flowers and if I were to cross it with a Bil it possibly would be either Catherine wilson or Bil harland. Both of the bils have nice red colouring. This is just a thought and I am an experimenter. Colour fromk seed parent, form from the pollen parent. I am not ready to try this as yet.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1Neo Moby dick
Pic 2 N painted desert X stormy weather
Pic 3 Acanthrostaccys strobilla seedlings also 2 pots ofCanistrum burchellii
Pic 4 Some tills
Pic 5 Ae Noid,more light more brown

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perke_patch

December 16, 2012
4:47 AM

Post #9359611

Hi all
we've been busy potting up seedlings all day again. we had to move all the flowering vriseas and guzmanias from down the side area. these are now living under the large alcantareas, till kruchoffiana and blanchetianas around the yard. when they flower we can pull them back out to be seen. they still get anough light and air and as long as we make special effort to get them all when spraying they should be OK. we did this with some others over the past year and the ones flowering were on sales tables last weekend and went. so we just filled the empty spaces.

anway we now have the side area full of seedlings. some of your larger ones Nev have been promoted to the normal display area with large blue dots on the pots to tell us they are seedlings and not to go out for sale. We have some nice seedlings in this batch. some that I think show promise are a bigeneric nid nana x neo medusa. I loved the colour and shape when I saw the tray and thought "doesn't hurt to ask for some" and was amazed when he said I could have some and how many did I want. so I asked for 10 and got them. I also was intrigued with a cross of ae recurvata v benrathii x ae weilbachii v leodensis. he was disappointed that they seemed to be just plain green and now what he hoped to get from the cross but I'm willing to give them a go. only got 5 of these as they look like they will pup like benrathii so should have heaps out of those 5 seedlings. I also got a till lieboniana variegated from a batch of seedlings. he would only let me have 1 as the rabbits got in and descimated all but 1 tray. I started taking some pics today as I potted them up but the camera is not in here so I'll upload tomorrow night.

I'm off to bed now as I'm really tired. ready for a night in our new bed. slept so well last night in a fresh clean bedroom. so good to do a complete spring clean now and then isnt it?

Night all
Wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 16, 2012
5:56 AM

Post #9359635

Hi all, well that’s it, another weekend over, only one more before Xmas. We will have to bite the bullet and finish the shopping next week.

Sue, I wish the new TV could at least put the dishes into the dishwasher, but no, it just sits there ... at least the air con can make coffee. Glad you had good weather for your sale.

Wendy, how did you fare with the garden pots on auction. Thanks for the pic of hoenbergia correia araujoi, certainly looks the same and the next pup from neo Chloristricta F2 is yours Wendy, if you want. Mum is getting a bit ragged now but is still producing pups. And we were at Bunnings on Saturday too, didn’t see Santa.

Bree, I will wait till the New Year to send you the neo Chlorostricta F2 and maybe I will have something I can send along with it by then. Your neos Amazing Grace and Pot of Gold are very pretty.

Nev, thanks for doing the research on neo Grace X Break of Day. I think I am ready to accept that mine is misnamed. I think your neo Correia Araujoi (shocker of a name) is quite attractive. Mine is still a young plant, I hope its leaves get as wide as yours. I hope to get your two neo pups in the post tomorrow.

Ian, thanks for the ID on my broms. Hope you get some rain soon. Your neo Moby dick is similar to my neo Correia Araujoi but the C-A appears to have wider leaves, as Nev said.

Trish, thanks for sending the gingers, looking forward to getting them and trying my hand at growing them. No hurry for the neo Two Tone pup and since you have written DON’T FORGET into your notes, I’m happy, thanks :o) The Galactic Warrior pup needs to get a bit bigger yet and I’m thinking my neo Grace x Break of Day might be misnamed. You’re more than welcome to a pup if you still want one, but, another NOID I fear.

Really sorry to hear that your Ae Blanchietiana arrived with a “broken neck” Trish. I’m not sure what you mean by that, but it doesn’t sound too good. I think some of the posties are pretty rough with parcels as a few plants I have purchased on eBay have arrived in pretty poor condition.

Trish, if you have any leftovers from your dinner, I’d be happy to take them off your hands, especially the spring rolls and pav, two of my favourite foods ... yummm

Anyway, it’s nearing midnight so I had better finish up (before I turn into a pumpkin). Pics are two of my recent buys from Wendy, 1 neo fairy floss and 2 neo purple sand.

Bye for now, Shirley




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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 16, 2012
11:25 AM

Post #9359887

good morning all,
Trish, I am amazed that your plant arrived broken! I think I had written 'live plant' all over the parcel didn't I? I guess when all I am relying on is a cardboard box to protect against Aussie posts mishandling, what can we expect? It would get a bit expensive to package things in metal boxes eh? I'm guessing it was broken above the stolon? I can always post you another, but it will have to wait until after Xmas now, as I imagine the post is crazy, and the postal employees are all getting a bit careless as the workload increases.
Ian, I am thinking the same for your seeds and Aechmea 'Fosters Favourite Favourite'. Its only a couple of weeks before the holidays are over and the seeds are only JUST ripening, so can stay in the pods another couple of weeks, no problem.
Your mesh idea sounds viable. I would need a mountain of mesh to do the same thing here. What I really need is a bark catcher, as I am sick of picking it up. I have big black bins around the yard at the moment, and try to collect bark as I pass, then empty the bins onto the bonfire when they are full. I need to start a new bonfire pile too, as it is about as big as I'd like it.
shirley, what brand of aircon have you got? I'd like one of those. I think your two new pink broms look gorgeous.
Wendy, your bigeneric seedlings sound quite interesting. Were they in the batch from Ross'?
I'm not a fan of Quesnelia liboniana. I like the flower, but find the leaves mark badly here. Could it be the cold? I wonder what you will get from the cross?
Trish, did you use your hammock as temp shade? Is that what will catch the avocados and mangos? I love hand watering my broms too. Its a good way to keep an eye on them and see any problems before they get out of control, and to weed them, and to see who is coming into flower or pupping. It takes me at least an hour a day to water through each section of my collection. Its very therapeutic.
I agree with Shirley. i would love some of your left overs! I was treated to dinner out, last night, and our hosts cooked a chicken in a bbq. It was devine, not to mention the pavlova that followed, served with kiwi fruit, banana and frozen berries! yumm!
Nev, I heard a story that Hot gossip, milagro, and predator are all the same plant, just imported into different stables, so registered with different names? I don't know how true that is.
Yes, must have been thinking about wine! I think I had an ID on it somewhere else, with 'Port Wine' and it sounded familiar (I have port wine magnolias in the garden) so it stuck in my head. Thanks for sorting me out. I may, or my not have realised my mistake when labelling :-/
Thank for giving Bree the nod on N. 'Amazing Grace'. I should have labelled it for her. It was crazy around the time she visited, but dropped off to nothing shortly after.
Bree, I'm glad you are pleased too, and like Nev, know nothing about your Neo. 'Pot Of Gold'. There are so many of the red and gold ones around that I can't give a definite ID on any of them!
Yesterday, Hubby and I and a friend went for a lovely motorcycle ride in the country, and caught up with our restorers group, by accident, at a local tea house, so it was a lovely morning.
I had been up earlier in the day, and cleared up the plants before doing a deep watering. I plan to begin the fortnightly fertilise today. It will take me all week, as I use the watering can. I will have to try a new method one of these days!
Photo one is Aechmea maruensis. I've had it for a few years, and it was under the trees gathering leaves, so when i saw the bloom, time to repot and clean it up!
Photo two is Alc. brasiliana flowering. It started on saturday morning, and Alc. extensa also flowered on the same day. I am not crossing them, as i don't think one would improve the other.
Photo three is Alc. extensa in flower. They have one bloom on each branch, at a time so they should be in flower for some time yet. I am self pollinating both if anyone would like some seed later next year?
Photo four is another Aechmea needing identification. Any ideas?
Photo five is the new pup on Aechmea 'Red Bands' how I wish it stayed this colour.
well, better go and check my typing and speling, then send this post off to you.
till tomorrow
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 16, 2012
12:54 PM

Post #9359958

Hi everyone – Here we are again at the start of another week. We had our annual Christmas BBQ and get-together at a good friends house with a few old close friends yesterday afternoon and passed the time reminiscing an bullshi..ing. It was really enjoyable watching all of the grand kids running around playing and playing in the pool as well.

Trish – We didn't have any trouble wondering what to buy each other for Christmas as our fridge had just died so we gave each other half of a fridge for a Chrissie present, not exactly a surprise but something we both needed.

Thanks for going to the trouble of posting the ginger to us before Christmas, I can now look to mine as a Christmas present. The only thing you didn't send was an invitation to your Chinese/Australian style banquet; it makes my mouth water just reading abut it.

I like your idea of a retirement village for your old Mother Plants, I must do that for mine. I currently have the “Maternity Ward” for the freshly sown seed in their containers and then the “Pre-School” once they are large enough to be thinned out into other containers of about 15 plants. From here they go to the “Kindergarten” and then to the “Primary School” and finally the “High School”. I think a “Retirement Village” will complete the system well.

I once read an article called “Look After Your Mums”, and was written at a time when most growers would just take off the first pup and toss the mother plant away. The author of the article explained that if you re-potted the mother and gave her a good feed of fertiliser she would often go on to produce multiple pups. Being new to brom growing and eager to quickly build up my collection I followed his advice and have done this now for years. I often thought about calling that area the “Production Line”; however as I'm now running out of space I sometimes wonder if it was such a good idea after all.

Gee that was bad luck about someone breaking the “Blanchie's” neck. Don't be too quick to toss it out though, firstly try standing the base of it in the water filled vase of one of your larger brom's and if after a few weeks it doesn't seem to be rotting, pot it up and give it weekly applications of Condy's Crystals with sufficient dissolved in water until the water is a dark pink colour. I've heard of this working for others but have never tried it myself so I can't guarantee it.

Ian – I'll be interested to see what you and Wendy turn up with your bi-generic crosses of Bill's and Quesnelias. What I have noticed about all of the crosses registered so far is that the Bill parent in all cases was a species and species without any spectacular leaf markings. So possibly worth trying Bill Hallelujah as it's a beautifully marked plant and also a known breeder which passes on its colour.

On the BCR in the section on xBillnelias, there are also a few notes; don't be put off when you first start reading them as some are in German but there is a translation in English further on. Below are the three addresses with the notes:
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=xBILLNELIA&id=9318#9318
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=xBILLNELIA&id=9316#9316
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=xBILLNELIA&id=10336#10336

Ian, what is the diameter of your Neo 'Moby Dick'? I have a large plant which looks very similar and I was initially led to believe it was a species (Bower Birds stole the original name tag and I can't remember the name) but it looks very similar to yours. (see plant in picture 3 in my post of Dec 14th.) It is growing in a lower light area and the pic isn't too good but I'll try and get a better one to post.

I also like your plant of Neo. 'Painted Desert' x 'StormyWeather', it's a nice plant with what looks like naturally glossy leaves and once again the “tell tale” Concentrica markings (this time Concentrica 'Plutonis') are in evidence on the leaves.

It's great to see you growing brom seed and I know like the rest of us you are eager to learn and you won't take offence if I do the “school teacher thing” and correct you on a name. It is Acanthostachys strobilacea and I know it's a hard one to get your tongue around but if these seedlings start out life with the wrong name they tend to continue that way, so best to correct it early. I also have a few plants of the other one (Acanthostachys pitcairnioides) which I grew from seed also. It is not as spectacular as strobilacea and has the flowers very low down almost out of sight in amongst the base of the leaves but the flowers are a nice soft mauve in colour. It does however have some nasty little prickles on the leaf edges.

I've heard of wrapping valuable things in cotton wool but this is the first time I've seen it used with bromeliads (your Pic.4), can you tell us the reason?

Sorry I can't help you with an ID for the plant in the last pic. Perhaps another pic in a brighter area would help. My first thoughts were not of an Aechmea but of a xCryptbergia 'Red Bust'. How large is the plant i.e. high and wide and do you know what the flowers are like?

Wendy – Your seedlings of Nid. 'Nana' x Neo. 'Medusa' sound interesting, was it an Allan Ladd cross? It should be worth watching and I'm certainly looking forward to some pic's as they progress. Oh and just one other thing, (although I'm not a Till. grower) I think the Till you mention as Till. kruchoffiana should be spelled Till. Krukoffiana.

Shirley - I'll be looking forward to receiving the Neo pups, a great Christmas present for a brom grower. Please D-Mail me what you would like in return, or a list of some of the plants on your wish list, I may have something here you are chasing. Also I love the colours of the two brom's in your pic's.

Sue – I have found since I have been sending plants in polystyrene boxes, I haven't had any problems. I don't think writing “Live Plants” on the box really helps at this time of the year as Australia Post probably take on temporary staff to help with the Christmas rush and half of them can't read and they don't give a "toss" anyway as they know they'll be gone as soon as the rush is over.

Sue I have the same trouble with the Ques Liboniana down here also, but our Society President who lives only about twenty minutes away at Dapto grows it well. I was thinking my problem may have been the salt air as the ones grown at Dapto wouldn't get any salt air, but then that's just a theory. I've tried growing it in pots, mounted on timber and on trees and the end result is always the same, dead leaves... bugger!

Sue what you say about Hot Gossip, Milagro, and Predator could well be true as I suspect a fair bit of this has gone on over the years especially when plants have been bought and imported from other countries under the name of just the breeding formula only. The grower in the country of origin names and registers his/her plant and the grower here does the same, but with a different name, just another problem for the BCR to try and sort out one day?

Sorry I can't help you with your ID on the Aechmea but that pup on the Ae 'Red Bands' looks great. Do they always start out his colour or is this one a “sport”, if so it's certainly worthwhile persevering with to try and stabilise it.

I'll finish now as usual with a few pic's Pic.1 is for Ian and is Acanthostachys Pitcairnioides, Pic 2 is Ae. Cylindrata , Pic.3 is Neo Mulford Foster, Pic.4 is Canastropsis seidellii x Canistropsis 'Plum' and finally Pic 5 shows a couple of seedling culls of Neo Thunderbird x destined either for the garden or the bin

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

December 17, 2012
3:03 AM

Post #9360355

Hi all,Another dry and hot day here. NOt much done other than watering.
Nev My Moby dick is about 40cm across. Tonights pic 1 is one taken in August this year when I bought it form Bowen. It will be a while before I get any bigeneric crosses as I will have to get the plants to flower at the same time. Maybe I will have to save some pollen in the freezer. If it is meant to be it will happen. At least I have food for thought.
Painted desert XStormy weather is growing almost in full sun for most of the day and that surprises me, I would have thought les light would have been preferable. The plant is the boss. I had to move 1 from the back today as it was loosing colour, Too much sun I think.
Thanks for correcting my spelling, relying on memory tooo much. I have a juvenile plant of Acanthostachys Pitcairnoides and I will enjoy seeing it flower in the future. I certainly can see where it gets it's name from, all my Pits have those same low leaf spines.
Pic 2 is another plant that I cannot as yet identify,it has a similar flower to Acanthostachys Pitcairnoides.
Cotton wool, I guess it looks like that, but in fact is filter wool from my fish tanks. I used it to anchor the Til to some mesh. I have used it to start seeds but was to impatient. The seeds germinated but I transplanted them too soon and it was winter. I have also used it to hold potting mix in tree starter pots with cuttings. It holds the soil in and allows drainage until it clogs. Hopefully by then it would be time to transplant.
As for what i thought was a Ae it has Crypt type flowers and it could be a xCryptbergia. It is approx 10" wide and 5 or 6" high. At the moment it has 4 pups with the reddish colour and mumma plant is green. The underside is paler green on on mumma plant leaves and paler red on the pups.
I just noticed scale on this plant and have treated them.
Pic 1 Neo Moby Dick
Pic 2 An unusual plant
Pic 3 Neo Princeps
Pic 4 Neo Rosa Morado

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 17, 2012
3:37 AM

Post #9360366

Hi Everyone!

It’s threatening to rain today with lots of thick cloud cover all around us but still no rain in sight which is a bit of a disappointment. Ah well it has got to rain sooner or later and I like nothing better than gardening in the rain in the middle of summer.

Hi Sue yeah you did write ‘Live Plant’ all over the box, Australia Post can be pretty rough with the post, they broke a couple of orchid flasks right at our front door once, Joe was really peeved with them and gave them an earful. Thanks for your kind offer of another Ae. Orange form, that would be great but only if you can spare one, but can I please get some money in the post to you for going to all that trouble? Yeah the brom was broken at the stolon unfortunately the tenderest part of the bromeliad.

Sue we brought a new hammock for the pool area (not for the broms) to swing in over the holidays as our previous one finally disintegrated and my bum fell through it the last time I tried to swing on it, not a nice feeling swinging on a hammock in your bathers with your bum dragging on the ground OUCH lol. The shade cloth area I was talking about was a temp shade structure that I built over my broms, I decided that it probably would not take the onslaught of falling mangos and soon to fall avocado’s so I rebuilt my original design with stronger stakes that I hammered deeper into the retaining wall, it should last a good couple of years which is what I am after and I am just going to leave it in place rather than taking it down in winter.

Sue how cute is that Ae. Red Bands pup, yeah I agree how nice would it be if it stayed that wonderful color.

Hi Shirley thanks yes please I would still really appreciate a pup from your Neo Grace x Break of Day now found out to be a NOID. I liked the look if it anyway with those long slender leaves.

Shirley / Sue / Nev glad to hear you all liked the sound of what I cooked on Saturday; I had been promising a friend for ages that I would cook her Peking duck with pancakes as she has been reminding me for a good 6+ months that I still have not cooked it for her. Anyway it was nice to see how much they all enjoyed it, even the kids had some as it was a novelty for them to wrap their own pancakes and put what the wanted in them, I was laughing at some of the combinations they came up with and a first time in a long time that they got out of their comfort zones and tried something a little bit unusual to the norm.

Hi Nev although a new fridge does not sound all that exciting for Xmas it is such a necessity that we just can’t do without, and unfortunately this time of year is normally when things tend to break down, never perfect timing. We also have to buy a new dryer before the wet season sets in because it takes forever to get things dry (days) and we can’t afford to be going to work in damp smelly clothes, shower towels take forever to dry.

Nev you are most welcome, I was so pleased that I got the Gingers posted to Shirley and you before Xmas; I hope you get them in time and that they travelled well. If for any reason they don’t look happy please let me know and I will look at getting some more posted in the new year as by then hopefully some more of the old flowers would have thrown some seedlings. I could not dig any large bits out of the garden as they would have been way too large and costly to post but you will be surprised how quick the little seedlings grown, I like to give mine a little sprinkle of some indoor plant fertilizer granules to get the seedlings growing but I usually wait a couple of weeks until they settle down and acclimatize so they can recover from the shock of being transplanted.

Nev yes I agree that by you having a “Retirement Village” for your old Mother Plants that it would definitely complete the system as you say as you already have everything else in order of precedence and this would make it a complete bromeliad circle of life and I can think of nothing more wonderful than that. I really like having a retirement village for my older broms, especially the ones that have lost their lust or have been smashed by something in the garden lol, I normally find I can salvage at least one more beautiful pup out of them before they are ready to go in into my compost bin, even ones with only half a body I have been able to get beautiful pups off, it is just a matter of looking after them like I do with all my other broms, apart from I place them in a sunnier spot in the garden with no shade cover which prompts them to stress and pup quicker than the ones grown under shade cloth. It is really worthwhile doing Nev if you have the room to spare, or if you can’t dedicate a special area for them then it is easy enough to pop one here and there in the garden and they are easy enough to find because they look so drab compared to the others. Nev that article you read sounds interesting, I too fertilize my old Mother Plants because it can’t do them any harm because they have lost their lust, but I have not got the heart to throw them out until they really look like they need to be thrown out. For now I have the luxury to be able to do this because I have the room, maybe one day I won’t but for now I can so I will keep doing this for now.

You know what Nev I kept the Ae. Orange form pup because I did not have the heart to throw it out yet normally when they are broken at the stolon I would because I have never had one come back from this, I will give what you say a try and keep everyone posted, you never know? I just thought they needed the most important area intact from the stolon down which is where all the roots sprout from but this whole area has been snapped off. Joe thought it funny that I put it in a vase but when I came home from work late that night and saw it broken in the box and went ‘what a shame’ I went and got a vase out and popped it in water just out of sympathy for the brom as silly as that may sound and I still have not had the heart to throw it out, especially after all the trouble Sue went in preparing and posting it to me.

Nev I really liked all the pics you posted, especially Pic 4 Neo Mulford Foster, I have not seen this one before and am intrigued by its pretty center and matching flecks through the leaves.

Anyway I better head off, early start in the morning – yawn!

Hi to everyone who may be looking in and Happy Gardening!

Just a couple of pics tonight as I am running out of time:

Pic 1 – Neo Grace x Break of Day (Gold form) – not my picture one I got off the internet, I hope my pup grows up as glorious, so tropical looking in color.

Pic 2 – My Vriesea’s

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perke_patch

December 17, 2012
5:18 AM

Post #9360408

Hi everyone.
SHirley thanks for the offer of that chloristicta pup. maybe we can do a swap next time you come over. thanks. I remember Johnny asking Olive when we bought a galactic warrior same time as you, he asked how she got them to grow so big. She told him that you let the pup get a good size on mum before taking it off. you do get less pups but you get a better quality of plant. we already had galactic warrior but Johnny just had to have one of those huge ones at Olives. so now we just have to leave them there till they are big.

Nev thanks for posting those links. I'll check them out. Funny you should say about crossing quesnelia with hallelujah. I found one coming into flower today and have already put it down beside the quesnelia to cross as the flowers open. I also put another dark red one there but can't remember the name. So I'll try both of those and see what I get. I'll have to take Jen there in the new year. we are due for a good brom crawl. might have to make it a few nights and go as far as Coffs to see Sue and Jan Townsend then back up to a few others including Allan. Oh and Nev when I was typing krukoffiana I remember thinking to myself "is it a k or a ch" guess I picked the wrong one.

Nev you were correct in the hybridiser of those xgenerics. One of our customers here last weekend organised for us to visit a friend of his as he told us he had so many large seedlings all desperate to be potted up that he was overwhelmed and almost ready to give them up completely. So we went off to Bangalow to visit his friend as arranged and as soon as I walked in I knew it was Alan Ladd. He lives in the middle of a cow paddock. you have to open the gate and close it again after moving through, then follow a track up, swerving around all the cow pads till you get to a farm house. we parked on the grass in front of the gate and Johnny opened his door and stepped straight into a cow pad. he had to back up a bit to miss it next time he stepped out. I took the camera off Rylee this morning and can't remember where I put it so can't upload the pics I took. however he sent me a pic of some of the 'nid nana x neo medusa' seedlings flowering so pic 1 will be his pic.
pic 2 is xcryptbergia red burst for Ian
pic 3 is xneomea kell. I don't mind this one although the flower could be a bit bigger and more dramatic.
pic 4 is xneomea scorpio. I am liking this one more and more as without realising it the sun moved around and caught one of these in full sun. some of the other plants have burned but this scorpio is just getting more and more red and handling it really well. I'll get another pic tomorrow showing the redder colouring.

I'd better get to bed now as I might head off to Hervey Bay tomorrow. If not tomorrow then definately the next. Have to deliver the presents for the family up there. will be the first visit with no dad to see. Must catch up to my sister though as it looks like this time next year she will be a widow as her husband is not too good. she has been down here in Brisbane with him in hospital but she stays in a motel over northside close to hospital. I didn't even know she was down till I saw my other sister. anyhow if I don't log on tomorrow that's where I'll be.
Speaking of going away. if I don't post the parcels this week I'll leave them to after christmas to allow Aust post to get their act together. I went down today and the lineup was again out the door and round the corner. not going to try to post anything this week.

Night all
Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 17, 2012
5:57 AM

Post #9360451

Hi everyone, how hot has it been today and even now it hasn’t cooled down much. Storms are predicted for tomorrow, but there is thunder rumbling around at the moment, so don’t think it will wait till tomorrow.

Sue, it’s the Daikin that makes coffee … haven’t you seen the ad, obviously you don’t watch enough television. I think it also warms babies bottles, might be something Ian could make use of in the near future.

Nev, I posted your neo pups this morning and have my fingers crossed that they arrive unharmed. I will have to try to get hold of some small styrofoam boxes. I sent you a D-mail with the names of a few of the broms I would like but I have plenty more on my wish list, it’s at least a mile long, so I can send lots more names if you like :o) I like your neo Mulford Foster so that’s another for the list.

Trish, I will get a neo Grace X Break of Day (or whatever) off to you in a few weeks. I should have something else I can add as well by then. I wish my Grace x Break of Day looked like the one in the pic you posted, WOW, nice.

Wendy, a swap next time we’re over sounds good to me. I do remember you telling me what Olive said about the Galactic Warrior pups … are you fertilizing yours. You know, when you talk about xgenerics it sounds like a foreign language to me.

And Wendy, you are right about the line up at the post office, there were so many people posting parcels this morning. Anyway, hope you have a good trip to Hervey Bay, take care.

Pics tonight are 1 a spotty neo NOID, 2 a gorgeous little neo I bought as neo Chantilly,
3 another spotty neo NOID, if anyone can ID the spotty ones, please do.

Bye for now, Shirley


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 17, 2012
12:29 PM

Post #9360785

Hi everyone - Just the briefest of notes this morning. You see yesterday I was drilling a bit of steel and the drill bit snapped and the broken bit (still in the machine) drilled a hole in my thumb (not quite right through) just below the base of the nail. Ouch!

The problem is, it's still bleeding a bit (the joys of taking Warfarin) and every time I hit a key on the keyboard with that hand it throbs like hell.

I have to see the Doc this morning as I don't think my Tetanus shots are up to date and I think this is serious enough to warrant a "jab". So I might do some replies in short bursts when it stops throbbing.

Best wishes to anyone on the sick list and any other "silly old buggers" like me who by doing silly things, have hurt themselves.

All the best, Nev.

Ha! Ha! Sue, I beat ya today.
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 17, 2012
12:41 PM

Post #9360795

Good morning all,
Shirley, no idea with the spotty ones I am afraid. There are just so many! I do like the Neo. 'Chantilly', it reminds me a little of one here, I have labelled as N. 'Sunday best'
No I havn't seen the Daikin add. Maybe we don't buy enough air cons here, or maybe daikin doesn't have an outlet in Coffs? Never mind. I will you tube it later.
We had rumbly thunder and storm clouds yesterday...twice...and got 6 drops of rain! Its very gloomy now, but I won't believe it is going to rain untill i see it!
Wendy, I bet that was an interesting visit with Alan? Poor johnny, stepping in a cow pat. Maybe thats why Alan wears those giant monster feet?
Have nice trip to hervey bay. I bet its lovely up there. Will you visit any growers while away?
Trish, that picture of Neo. 'Grace' x 'Break Of Day' is gorgeous. I hope you get the same results with yours, and that it pups as well s N. 'Break Of day' so you can share one with me :-)
Thanks for clearing up the question of the hammock.It must be how i read your post? Was imagining a hammock with shade cloth over it, and full of mangoes and avocados. It would be a bit of a dream actually, especially with avocados being $3 each here!
No need for money to change hands, re our swap. I'm sure when the time comes and you have something to trade, it will all work out even in the end. I like the idea of a styrofoam box, but can't see them making one in the right size, and it would get a bit exxy to send a large box if they cube it for postage. Anyway, I will try to reinforce the sides somehow, but they must have given the box an almighty bend to get the stolon to break. I'll give it another go after xmas.
Ian, I think you are probably a mad recycler! I think fishtank filter wool is probably good for many things, and the few you've listed are all good examples.
Nev, this is the first pup on A. 'Red Bands' so I'm not familiar with how it should look, but i assumed it was the red bands all squished together that are giving it the red colour? I know my A. chantinii pups are darker when small, and then the stripes stretch out as it grows, making it lighter in colour.
It sounds like you had a good time catching up with friends and watching the kids play. Its a nice time of year for that, and for all the yummy food!
You were saying things tend to break down at the worst moment, well, I think our hot water system could be on the verge of failure. the hot water is a funny colour, and smells very metallic. I wonder how hard it will be to get a plumber on the job at this time of year?
Anyway, I will find that out later today I guess.
Yesterday, i played with broms all day, just cutting old mums out of pots with larger pups, and dead leafing things. i also planted up two garden that were crying out for broms!
I suppose i had better get my day underway. the dogs have had a walk, so I'm not entirely slack!
Sue
photos are before and after
photo five is mature N. 'Break Of day' on the left and immature N. 'Camelot' on the right.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 17, 2012
12:43 PM

Post #9360797

yes, you did beat me nev! But you had to drill a hole in your finger to do it! heh heh. i hope it heals up for you soon,as such a short post does nothing to keep us content!

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 18, 2012
1:47 AM

Post #9361183

Shirley i love that neo Chantilly and the last NOID, looks like it has scratches on it.
Sue love your photo of break of day and camelot together.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 18, 2012
2:05 AM

Post #9361186

Hi Everyone!

Hi Nev, Oh No you have drilled a nasty big hole in your thumb OUCH! Gosh you have been in the wars with yourself, I bet it would have hurt like hell and the constant throbbing when you put pressure on it must be painful. Be careful not to hit those keys on the keyboard too hard for the next couple of weeks and give your thumb time to heal, although like Sue I much prefer your long threads and am not content with shorter one’s but understand your finger needs to mend and that we must be patient lol.

Hi Shirley, thanks appreciate very much that you are going to post me the NOID in a couple of weeks + something else – how exciting :)

Shirley I liked all the other NOID broms pics you posted but unfortunately I do not know what they are? I have very similar but I suppose slightly different types of NOIDS in my garden with similar coloring that I have not been able to identify but I like them just the same. The Neo Chantilly pic you posted is very cute, is it a mini and does it grow any bigger?

Shirley I will D-Mail you Ginger Cultural notes tonight, I keep forgetting…

Hi Wendy those Nidularium ‘Nana’ x Neo ‘Medusa’ seedlings are really nice, such a deep dark purple, not like anything I have seen before and I like their beautiful glossy long leaves. How big do these broms get?

Hi Sue yeah by all means with Neo Grace x Break of Day (Gold form) I will put you down for a pup, mind you could be waiting awhile though because my pup is just a pup but it is nice and healthy and has grown a little since I first purchased.

Thanks Sue for the kind offer of sending me down the track another Ae. Orange form, I really appreciate you going to all this trouble.

What a bugger Sue that your Hot Water System is playing up, how annoying is it that such necessities seem do break down this time of year.

Sue I really like all your before and after shots of your garden beds, you have plenty of more room by the looks of the after shots and it looks like you could really put some nice large brom plants in these areas as well as a mixture of anything. Will you grow in rows or mix them up a bit? The garden beds also look like they get a good amount of light also and hopefully heaps of shade from the trees in the beds.

You know I just had a panic attack a short while ago as in all my busyness I had forgot to check on my vriesea seedlings in the nursery for a couple of weeks, anyway I raced out there to check on them and they are doing fine and have grown a bit which is great. I have been getting so side-tracked of late with building all these temp shade structures to protect my broms plus all the other stuff we have been trying to get done around the place. Anyway I am relieved they are ok and that they are growing.

Anyway time to put the kettle on.

Catch you all later and Happy Gardening!


Pic 1 – Vr. Angela x Milky Way
Pic 2 – Vr. Frost Bite x White Bands
Pic 3 – Neo. ‘Kings Ransom’
Pic 4 – Neo ‘Chiquita Linda’
Pic 5 – Vr. Altodaserrae

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

December 18, 2012
2:32 AM

Post #9361189

Good evening everyone. No more school for the year so it’s time to stop lurking and start pulling my weight. Hopefully only 6 more months of work and I’ll be able to join the ranks of poor but happy. Then I’ll have no excuses for my slack contributions.
Nev, ouch! Bet that hurt! Hope it heals quickly so you can get back to typing and keeping us up to date with all sorts of info. I really liked your post about hybridising, that the colour comes from the father and the mother influences the shape and size. (Have I got that right?) It’s made me look at my flowering Vrieseas in a whole new light. A while ago you gave me a couple of Dykia seedlings. One of them is showing an interesting lemon middle like Yellow Glow. Photo 1 below.
Trish, like you, I’ve been busy putting up temporary shadecloth. So many broms that have never had sun problems before seem to have burnt this year. Love your Neo Grace x Break of Day (Gold form). Beautiful colours. All of your plants look so big and healthy.
Sue, the grevillea out the front finally died so I had to move all the Guzmanias underneath and replace them with big tough Neos and Aechmeas. Had to split the big one that you called Tutti Fruiti so you are welcome to a pup. I love the way you use your broms as borders. Top colours in your Camelot and Break of Day. The new gardens look good. Sounds like Wendy is planning a brom crawl down your way so hopefully we’ll get down to see everything you’ve been doing early in the new year. Think she’s ticked that I’ve been to Jan’s and she hasn’t yet. Eh Wendy? Had a chuckle at your comment about Alan’s giant feet Yuk! Imagine having to clean cow pats off them. Great that you got to meet Bree and scored some orchids as well. Pity we couldn’t all get together somewhere.
Ian, for someone who’s only been into broms for a few years you’ve certainly gone from Pplates to advanced in a short time to already be crossing genera and growing them from seed. Love your photos. You’ve always got some interesting ones.
Shirley, I love your new ones from Wendy. Purple Sand is one of my favourites. Your first spotty noid looks a bit like my Neo Sun God (Photo 2) but there a lot of very similar ones. Fingers crossed we get some rain. Plenty of rumblings.
Wendy, I’m so jealous of your visit to Alan Ladd. Can’t wait to see all your new goodies. I’ve never been very keen on bigenerics but I like the ones in your photos. Hope you have a good fast trip to Hervey Bay.
Photo 3 is my Neo Blast that started going white about a year ago. It’s flowering now so is flushing pink. Apologies to Sue and Wendy who’ve already seen it on FB. Photo 4 is a pup on a Neo Tiger hybrid. Mum had a couple of stripes on the lower leaves and it looks like they might be coming through on baby. Photo 5 is a Vr Bianca cultivar from Catlan's showing plenty of white. Night all, Jen

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

December 18, 2012
2:39 AM

Post #9361190

Looks like we posted at the same time Trish. Love your Vrieseas. I didn't know Vr. altodaserrae (small 'a'for species) so had to look it upon FCBS. It has a beautiful flower. Jen
ianperry

December 18, 2012
3:27 AM

Post #9361205

Hi all, just some watering and packing so that we can go to daughters place tomorrow morning. I have someone here to look after my broms and house. I am hoping for a good trip and will be there for Christmas. I hope my daughter still has the internet working. I am taking her some more plants and hope to get 1 or 2 from her. I left some there last trip in August. Conditions are hot and dry there. It is on the other side of the range. Another mining town called Dalby. I got caught in the floods 2 years ago and do not expect the same this year.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae Inky maybe
Pic 2 N Hawaiin sunset
Pic 3 N April
Pic4 N Ruth Wilson

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 18, 2012
5:22 AM

Post #9361252

Hi all, we had a few spots of rain this arvo and another light shower tonight. Lots of rumbling but that’s about all.

Nev, sorry to hear about your thumb, bet that smarts … the lengths you are prepared to go to just so you can beat Sue to post in the mornings. I reckon she might beat you tomorrow. Jokes aside, I hope you are not in too much pain and it gets better quickly.

Sue, I have so many spotty neos and many of them without a name. Looking at them singly, they all look much the same but when placed together, they all have something special about them that makes them different or is it something different about them that makes them special, whatever!! I still prefer the variegated neos but I seem to be gathering lots of spotty ones lately.

Hope you found a plumber Sue, to fix your hot water system, at least it’s not the middle of winter. We got an email from family living in Arnhem in the Netherlands a couple of days ago with a pic of their thermometer showing -13 degrees … imagine if it was that cold and no hot water … bbrrrr.

Your gardens look so good. Gee, you must get up and get going early, you posted at 6:41 and you’ve already walked the dogs …

Trish, the ginger plants arrived today, thank you so much. When I picked them up from the post office late this afternoon and saw the crushed state of the box I was dreading what I would find inside. Gosh, they must handle parcels roughly this time of year, it looked like someone had stomped on it a number of times. But, good news, the plants themselves fared somewhat better than the box, they look OK. Can I remind you to send the cultural notes please. Thanks again, Trish. I hope the parcel I sent to Nev arrives without damage, I'm wishing now that I had left it till after the Xmas rush.

I would call neo Chantilly a small grower rather than a mini, Trish, I think it’s just gorgeous. Love your pics, especially vr Angela x Milky Way. Vr Altodaserrae is very unusual, I like it.

Jen, great to see you posting again, Love the pics you posted, they’re all beautiful.

Ian, hope you have a good trip to your daughters and a great Xmas in Dalby. Are there two towns named Dalby in Qld, when I think of Dalby I think of the Darling Downs and wheat farming rather than mining. I like your neo April, a bit like Morado. I was about to say your pic 4 looks like neo Kahala Dawn and no wonder, DG playing tricks with pics again?

Hi to Bree, Colleen, Wendy and anyone I’ve missed.

Pics are 1 neo Mandella, 2 neo Blast, 3 neo ? can anyone help me with an ID please.

Bye for now, Shirley






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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 18, 2012
11:34 AM

Post #9361540

Good morning all
Shirley, I meant to say I have stacks of that Noid in your third pic of the previous post. The one bree described as having scratches. It seems to be in almost every collection I have viewed, and always without a name. I've tried getting an Id on the international bromeliad forums, where alot of expert growers frequent, but no success.
As for my early post, thats 6.41 queensland time, so 7.41 here. I do get up early though, usually around the 5.30 mark (thats 4.30 to you) the birds usually sing me wake, or in the case of last monday, a chorus of cicadas...while it was still dark!
I like the way the leaves curl on your N. 'Mandella. I'm not sure what your third pic might be though. I do like the ones that have contrasting colours. just that bit more interest to them.
I rang a plumber yesterday, to get some advice on the system, and he said it sounds like an annode has gone, and that at its age, its not worth replacing it, but instead should get a new system (I knew that was coming), but that i should get six months more out of the current one, time to research my options. I got his emergency number in case it should fail over xmas, and told him I would hold him to the advice he gave me.
Ian, I too was confused when I looked at the last picture and saw Kahala Dawn. I was sure you had writtn something else. I'm not familiar with N. 'Ruth Wilson' so if you still have computer access, how about another pic? I hope you have a great Xmas in Dalby with your daughter. Will you get into Brisbane while you are there?
Jen, gee, its about time you added your two cents! I like the pup with the variegation. How exciting. When you say 'Tiger Hybrid' is it a N. 'Skotaks Tiger' hybrid?
Your Vriesea 'Bianca' certinly has some white to it. I have to say its one of the nicer ones I've seen!
of course I'd be into a pup of G. 'Tutti fruitti'. I do like the Guzmanias. No spines, big plants and colourful flowers. I wish I could get up and visit. I cannot believe how fast the year went, and I didn't get my promised week up there. Xmas is just around the corner, so I can't see us there this year! You best just hang onto tutti for a bit. I will Dmail you after this.
Trish, thanks for keeping me in mind for a pup. I do realise it will be a little wait, but thats the beauty of bromeliad collecting. There is always something to look forward to in the future.
Yes, I do still have plenty of room for broms in the gardens. I tend to plant in rows, or blocks of threes, and have put a couple of Nevs seedlings in, that shoud grow to be large colourful plants. I have had broms in the surrounding gardens for quite a few years now, so I know the light/shade ratio is pretty much spot on in that area. Unfortunately they do gather alot of debris from the gum trees, so it can become a bit of work as I clean them up about every three months or so. I was told by a wise man to leave plenty of room to walk amongst them, and of course, as they grow, the gaps close, as i have discovered in other areas. i did not plant these last two gardens in pots, but sat the broms into the ground and mulch. The soil was lovely after ten years of debris/mulch breaking down, and still damp from rain we had last week.
I was looking at your V. 'Angela' x 'Milky Way' and wonder why it doesn't look anything like I would expect, (pink). You would think it gets the red from Angela, but then, if Angela is written first, is she not the pod parent, and that is shape and size, yes? And since Milky Way is the second name in the mix, then it is the pollen parent, so influences colour, hence...no pink.
I think I am getting the picture
Speaking of pictures
Photo one is Aechmea 'Mend' in the garden.
Photo two is A. 'Mary Brett' growing in lOTS of sun
Photo three is Canistrum aurantiacum, also in quite a bit of light
Photo four is Neo. 'Golden King'
Photo five is billbergia 'catherine Wilson' but doesn't look anything like the photos on the BSI files. I like the curly leaves
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 18, 2012
7:56 PM

Post #9361911

Hi All – Well my thumb hasn't dropped off yet so I'm trying a bit of typing with one hand and gee isn't it slow? I'm making an early start (5.00 am) to compensate for using just one hand and I think a snail could type faster. I'll start by responding to yesterday's posts and see how I go.

Ian – Thanks for the feed back on Neo. 'Moby Dick', it looks like the plant I have is wrongly named and it really is Neo.'Moby Dick'. I got this plant from a very knowledgeable grower who said it was a species (can't find the name, maybe the bower birds stole it as it would have been a plastic one), anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that even the experts sometimes get it wrong, which just re-enforces what I've previously said about never trusting the name on a name tag.

It's interesting that you say you found scale on the ?Cryptbergia, I stopped growing this plant because I found that here in my environment it seemed to attract White Scale and Mealy Bug and as I'm very reluctant to use insecticides I “bit the bullet” and got rid of these plants. Just as a bit more info to aid in the ID, I seem to remember the flowers on my plants were (I think) a “bluish” colour with a bit of green.

With your yesterday's Pic 2 (An unusual plant) , is that a white flower with blue margins or is it a flower from an African Violet you've put there just for a joke? The foliage has the look of a Neo so maybe it could be one of the Neo species. I don't think your pic 4 today is Neo 'Ruth Wilson' but is Neo 'Kahala Dawn'

Trish – When I mentioned about “looking after your old mother plants”, I forgot to mention the most important bit of information I had meant to pass on. I got this from one of the professional brom growers who said, as well as the usual fertiliser, it pays to increase the amount a bit as well as putting a “prill” or two in the lower leaf axils. I have tried this on plants I wanted to increase my stock of, and it does work. On at least three occasions there were multiple pups produced sometimes between six and eight, but be warned; usually after production like this, the mother plant is “burnt out” and is then only good for tossing on the compost heap.

As for putting your damaged “Blanchie”pup into the water in the vase of a larger brom, this method works well if you want to strike cuttings of other plants also. Just remove any excess leaves and put the “cut end” of the cutting down into the water in the cup and more often than not they will put out roots. I think it must be something “special” in the water as I've even seen brom seeds germinate in it this water as well.

I love today's pic's; always great as usual but Neo 'King's Ransom' gets the prize from me; always a favourite of mine as is the little Neo Chiquita 'Linda' which is the result of a crossing of the tiny little Neo Lilliputiana with Neo 'Fireball'. I find your Vr. Altodaserrae quite attractive also, it's a species I've never seen down here and it has such a neat attractive form (probably the way it's been grown). I looked it up on the FCBS species register and it has an amazing very tall inflorescence and like everyone else, I am looking forward to seeing a pic when it flowers.

Wendy – As for crossing Hallelujah with your Quesnelia Liboniana, I think if you use a known “good parent” your chances of a successful outcome are increased, and Hallelujah is certainly a good parent. On the other hand, some beautiful brom's have resulted from crosses using the most unlikely parents, so I guess it's all down to experimenting and the expectations of hybridising. While talking about bi-generics, I too like the pic of your xNeomea 'Scorpio' what sort of flower does it have and do you have a pic you could post?

Tell Johnny I said that stepping in “cowsh” is supposed to be good luck so maybe he'll win the Lotto or something. Having said that though, it didn't help me win anything as when we were kids rounding up the cows from the yard to go into the bails for milking, we were more often than not bare footed and the mornings cold and frosty. While waiting in the yard to bring in the next lot of cows, the usual thing was to stand in fresh “cowsh” to keep our feet warm.

Shirley – I can't help you with the NOID in your first pic (yesterday's lot) but would like to add it to my wish list whenever you have a spare pup. I also like the little plant named Neo 'Chantilly' and would be interested in swapping a pup of this also when ever you get a spare.

I'm sure the pups you sent will arrive in good condition even at this busy time of the year for Australia Post. I find brom's are extra resilient and can tolerate a lot of mishaps and still bounce back. I once had a parcel of pups sent to me by a bloke who put the address on the package but forgot to write what town it was. They went around in the post for a little over two weeks before they finally found their way to me. They did look a bit de-hydrated, but after a soak in the “magic water” (½ cup of raw sugar dissolved in a bucket of water) they perked up within an hour and grew on to be great plants.

Your NOID in pic three is like one that's been around down here for a while and carries the unregistered name of Neo 'Brushstroke” (unreg.) possible due to the fine lines in the foliage resembling the path left by a paint brush.

With your pic's today, your NOID which is pictured No.3 is more than likely Neo. 'Fancy Pants'. It also is a bit variable and doesn't always have exactly the same markings.

Sue – Why I asked the question about your Ae. 'Red Bands' was that the plant I have, only ever has green coloured pups when they first poke their heads through the mix. Perhaps there is a little bit of faint barring but certainly not the rich red colour of the one you posted. I eagerly await the next pic's when it's more mature to see if it retains that rich colouring and if it does, and after you have registered it and made your fortune, can you put me on the end of a very long queue for a pup please?

Oh how I wished I had the space you have to plant all of my excess brom's, I could create a “brom heaven” just like you are doing. Your two new gardens look great and will fill another void in your landscape. I also love you 'Break of Day' and 'Camelot' plants. My 'Break of Day' has more of a golden colour than yours which I expect is due to having less light than you get up there, but it's still a nice plant all the same.

I've almost caught up and can now start on your post for today. You well and truly beat me today as I started here at about 5.00am and its now about 1.00 pm (so much for my one finger typing), but I can't do much else anyway so I'm still here trying to catch up.

You said in your message to Jen, “I was looking at your V. 'Angela' x 'Milky Way' and wonder why it doesn't look anything like I would expect, (pink)”, this is because it's following the “Pod Parent” dictates shape and size and “Pollen Parent” dictates colour rule. This is explained by the way the name formula is written and you're correct in saying that the first name is the “pod parent” and the second is the “pollen parent”. If on the other hand it was a reverse cross where Milky Way was the “Pod Parent” and Angela was the “Pollen Parent” the results could have been very different. But then you get some of the well known hybridisers who say the results would be the same no matter what way the parents were used. I can't say from the little experience I've had with brom's but I personally know from my orchid growing hybridising that this was definitely not the case and if you did the cross both ways, the progeny was always different. The only way to know for sure I suppose is to try doing the cross both ways; or ask Jack if he did it the other way also and what the results were.

I love the pic's you've posted and really like the way the leaf tips of the Mary Brett have coloured up when grown in bright light. I also like the curly leaves on your Bill. 'Catherine Wilson', they remind me of one I have called Bill 'Curly Top' except that one is green with white markings

Hi Jen – Good to see you posting again, I always like to hear what you have to tell us. What you say about the seed parent influencing shape and size and pollen parent influencing the colour, is usually correct. However it wasn't me who posted it., I think it was Ian and he was quoting the original statement which came from the “Master “ himself, Jacob (Jack) Koning and he certainly has sufficient runs on the board to make such statements as he's bred some magnificent hybrids. To support what I say, go to http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php to see some of his achievements.

I love the little Dyckia seedling, it's one of many I gave away but the first I've seen with that colouring. A few years ago I saw a pic on one of the other forums of a Dyckia with a yellow centre and it was truly beautiful, but I can't remember where it was I saw it; maybe it was one of my Thai friend Chanin Thurot's babies. The seed that your particular plant came from was from a friend at the Wollongong Botanical Gardens, so let's hope you've got a good one.

Although I believe he's a bit of a character, I've never had the good fortune of meeting Allan Ladd or been to his nursery in person, but I have bought plants and seed from him and have always been satisfied with what I got. What interests me about his hybridising is that he's always trying new things; especially new bi-generic crosses and he especially likes to have a go at anything his peers say can't be done.

That's an amazing picture of Neo 'Blast' you've posted; a really beautiful eye catching plant. I have a few plants of it but have never found it to be in any way unstable but it looks like you got the good one and and like most unstable plants you can look forward to surprises every time a pup is born. When you get a spare pup of that clone could you add me to the waiting list for it please?

It also looks like you could be on a winner with your Neo Tiger' hybrid. What were the parents do you know? I have found that any of my plants that throw variegations like that on a pup always tend to thrown them from the same side of the mother plant each time. In fact I was once told that the quickest way to get a stock of these plants if you want to stabilise the markings was to destroy any pups that came from the other side of the mother. This was said to encourage pups from the same side as the one with the variegations and consequently increase you chances of getting something special.

It seems to me that you are on winners all around as your Vr. Bianca cultivar is showing some beautiful white markings as well and I'll bet “pounds to peanuts” that when it flowers it will have name tags hanging from every flower...”Long Live the Hybridiser”.

Just read your note to Trish about small ”a” for species. I'm afraid she may have got into the incorrect habit from me as I always write large letters even though it's wrong. I'm afraid its a hang-over from my tech. drawing days as an apprentice and it wasn't until I got into bromeliads that I learned that species should always be written in lower case lettering (including the first letter of the name). There are other rules about correct name writing also where some parts of the names should either be written in italics or underlined (I don't remember all of the rules now) but it just doesn't look right to me to write the genera name with an upper case first letter and then (if its a species) the following name in all lower case. On the other hand if it is a hybrid, the Genera name is still written with a capital first letter, but so are any of the other the names following, a bit confusing eh?.

That will do me for today, this one finger typing has taken me into the middle of the afternoon so a few pic's to finish. Pic's 1 and 2 are of an orchid (wash your mouth out Nev) Brassia Verucosa (23 perfumed spikes) always a welcome sight around Christmas time, Pic 3 is of my Neo. 'Break of Day' grown beneath 75% Beige shade cloth compared with the higher colour of Sue's plant posted on the 17th. which was grown under brighter northern sun. Pic's 4 and 5 show my now completed southerly wind breaks in the closed position and hopefully tomorrow I'll show them in the open position if I can drill the remainder of the steel plates without drilling my thumb again. (Incidently the house in the background is the neighbours, I don't have that much money.)

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 19, 2012
2:29 AM

Post #9362019

Hi Everyone!

Still no rain here, most mornings this week have been overcast and it looks like it is going to rain but by the time I get to work the sky has cleared. Although I know that hosing the garden usually relaxes me just of late I am really starting to get annoyed having to hose every couple of days the areas of grass that the irrigation is just not reaching that is going brown where the grass is starting to die.

Hi Jen nice to hear from you and see all your beautiful pics, I especially liked your Pic 3 Neo ‘Blast Off’, how gorgeous is that white contrast with blushing pink centre. It is way too early for me to tell what my Neo ‘Blast Off’ will grow up like as it’s still only a pup but has grown considerably since purchased some months ago, I hope it grows up as gorgeous as yours. Pic 5 of Vr. ‘Bianca’ cultivar is really nice too; you are doing such a great job with your broms as they always look so big and healthy.

Jen thanks for your kind comments regarding the last brom pics I posted. Jen great I will have to go in and have a look on the FCBS and see what flower Vr. altodaserrae looks like so I know what to expect from my brom, yeah I agree it is very different to most Vriesea’s, it has really nice pointy leaves and the base of the plant is a nice smoky black that really stands out. Thanks Jen for correcting me on using large letter for species when it should be a small letter for species.

Hi Shirley so pleased to hear that you’re Gingers arrived OK apart from the repeated damage received to the packaging Grrrrr, were the leaves whiltered at all? Unfortunately I had to send them in a cardboard box because I could not find a foam container small enough at the time. I sent Nev’s in the same foam container that Nev had posted my brom in as I knew I had the Gingers to post so thought I could reuse the same box. Nev have you received your Gingers yet, hopefully your box travelled better? Also Nev where do you get your foam boxes from, the size is perfect for posting and it only cost about $6 something to post the foam box and it was much larger than the cardboard box I posted Shirley’s Gingers in, but in the end they both cost me the exact same to post, so the size of the foam box was perfect and in future I would prefer only using a foam box, as well as the sticky tape is easy to take off if you want to recycle again like I did. Oh before I forget I emailed through those Ginger Cultural Notes through to you last night, did you get them Shirley?

Shirley thanks for letting me know that Neo Chantilly is a small grower; I really like that one as it has a really nice shape about it. Also pleased to hear that you liked my pic of Vr. Angela x Milky Way, I have a real soft spot for this one and she really stands out amongst my other Vriesea’s. Yes I agree that Vr. altodaserrae is very unusual, I too have never seem one like this before and I am hoping to get pups off it at some stage, it has not flowered yet and is doing really well outside and appears to like the semi-shade spot where I have it.

Shirley I really liked all the recent pics you posted, not too sure what your Pic 3 NOID is though? But I really like its markings and spots. Pic 1 of Neo ‘Mandella’ is really nice too and I think those teeth give the brom great character and suit the thickness of the leaves.

Hi Sue yeah I know how annoying gum tree debris is because we get heaps falling over our fence from the Wetland area that is chocka-block full of paper bark trees. About three of the gum trees partially hang over our back yard so I am constantly picking up fallen branches, bark and gum leaves. We mow the leaves up but I have to naturally hand pick all the leaves out of my broms every couple of days, but without them I would have no shade for my broms so would be totally lost without them and would have to look at shading the whole back yard. I agree doesn’t gum tree mulch makes the best compost and I luv the smell of it. I wear a big green apron with a big pocket in the front when I collect all the gum leaves around my broms and put them into the front pocket as I collect them and when it’s full I go and empty it out into my compost bins, the leaves don’t take very long to break down when mixed with everything else, same with the paper bark off the gum trees, the lot gets composted.

Yeah Sue I agree you would think that the pic I posted of Vr Angela x Milky Way would turn out more pink but it is the other way around, but she does have some really nice pink tips that really stand out. I will have to see if I can find a grown up picture of the mother as we purchased her from EBay and possibly there may be a photo I can post? I remember when I got her in the mail and saw her for the first time I went Wow, so think if I had this reaction while the pup is still so young how pretty she is going to look as she matures and colors up and flowers, anyway time will tell.

Sue I really liked all the pics you posted recently, especially Pic 4 of Golden King, that orange coming through is beautiful, will she go completely orange all over when she flowers? And Pic 5 Billbergia ‘Catherine Wilson’, those curly leaves are really nice as well as that ever so cute little pup coming up. I am always amazed how quickly pups grow on some of my old mother broms, I normally check them weekly and am amazed from week to week how much they can grow.

Hi Nev so pleased to hear your thumb has not dropped off yet and so pleased to see you typed a beautiful long thread as I really enjoy reading all the stuff you have to say and all the valuable advice you give.

Thanks Nev I will try that great advice you mention about giving my retirement village plants a little more fertiliser as well as adding a “prill” or two in the lower leaf axils, what a great idea. I will definitely give it a try as the mother plants in the retirement village won’t last another year so if I can get the most pups out of them that would be wonderful as I really like them all and do not have anything in my garden that I don’t like, so the quicker I can duplicate or triplicate something the better as at the moment I really only have mum and pup with most of my broms and one of the golden rules in brom collecting is to never get rid of your first pup in case mother dies otherwise you have to start all over again trying to track another replacement brom down. Anyway I will let you know how I go.

Nev that is so very interesting what you say about putting pup in base of larger brom cup to get it to strike roots and that it’s something special in the water, I have never heard of this before but it sounds like a great idea and I will give it a try hopefully over my holidays as report back how I go. Gosh you are full of wonderful ideas Nev, keep them coming I learn something new from you nearly every single day, you are like a wonderful book of information and I quiet often yell out to Joe when I read your posts “Nev said try this” and then Joe and I get into a conversation on the subject and I sometimes write notes in my garden diary so I don’t forget to try some of these wonderful suggestions that come out of this great forum.

Yeah Nev I really like Neo ‘Kings Ransom’ also it really stands out amongst some of my other broms I have in the garden.

Does anyone happen to own a bromeliad called Neo ‘Reverence’ I have been chasing this bromeliad for some time as it is the very first brom I ever wrote in my Want List, it reminds me a lot of Neo ‘Kings Ransom’ but I think Neo ‘Reverence’ is much nicer. Anyway if anyone could spare a pup down the track I would be forever grateful.

Nev we absolutely adore the pics you posted of Orchid Brassia Verucosa – WOW how old is that Orchid? I showed Joe and he could not believe how beautiful all those flower spikes are and how many there are. Joe has this Orchid but it is only a couple of years old and it flowers every year but I was not aware that the flower smells. Nev your Neo ‘Break of Day’ pic you posted looks lovely and healthy and I really like its colors. Nev you did an awesome job with those Wind Breaks for your bromeliads, what a great idea, that look so neat and professional and really suit the garden, I wish our garden was wider instead of long so we could build something like that but I just do not think it would suit the way our back garden is situated. It must be nice not having too much grass to mow.

I finally went out and brought Milton Anti-Bacterial Tablets today to spray my Vriesea seedlings with as I noticed a couple of the trays have what looks like green algae starting to grow in them. I chickened out taking the lids off and letting a bit of light in to get rid of some of the algae because with the heat I don’t think the seedlings will be able to handle it as it’s real hot in the nursery at present 44 degrees. The seedlings are only about not even ½ cm in height yet so I am trying to be very careful what I do to them. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated – help!

Anyway, better head off and go do the dishes.

Happy Gardening!

Trish

Sorry, OLD pics tonight as I have not taken any fresh one’s yet.

Pic 1 – Neo ‘Cane Fire’ (on the left) and Neo ‘Hot Gossip’ (on the right)
Pic 2 – Neo ‘Blushing Tiger’
Pic 3 – Neo NOID – any ideas?
Pic 4 – Vr. ‘Yellow on Black’
Pic 5 – Bill. ‘Rosea’

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 19, 2012
6:20 AM

Post #9362096

Hi everyone, another uncomfortably hot day here today.

Sue, we have the cicadas singing here too … isn’t it strange the way they all suddenly stop singing at once and then start again on cue together. I hope your plumber is correct and you get another 6 months out of your hot water system … mind you, that’s like June, it’s cold by then. I love your neo Golden King.

Nev, glad to hear your thumb hasn’t dropped off, hope it’s not giving you too much trouble. Your new wind breaks look good, your garden looks absolutely beautiful.

Trish, the ginger plant on the bottom of the box was much fresher looking than the one on the top. Could be that the top one got a bit more pressure or a bit more heat on it. Anyway, both are now potted up and hopefully they’ll take off. Once they get going, I’ll plant one in the garden and I might keep the other one in a pot and see how it fares. Does it get very large and do you have any growing in pots?

Trish, when it comes to postage, the cost is calculated on weight rather than size though sometimes they ‘cube’ it if it’s large and that makes it very expensive. I have received eBay purchases on a couple of occasions in a three sided box, not sure if that’s stronger or it’s so it can’t be ‘cubed’. I received the cultural notes last night Trish, thanks so much. Love your Vr yellow on black, what a beauty. I also like your neo Cane fire and its variegation. Mine used to look like that but has now gone so pink that it’s hard to see the variegation. I’ll post a pic of it when it was younger and one of how it looks now … perhaps I should move it to an area where it gets lower light.

Thursday tomorrow and I’m hoping to get some repotting done though I also have to wash and vacuum so I might not get to spend as much time with my broms as I would like. I hope it’s not as hot as the past few days have been.

It’s getting late so it’s bye for now,

Shirley


Trish, I have just noticed that your neo Cane Fire is albo marginated … mine isn’t. Maybe mine isn’t cane fire afterall.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 19, 2012
11:48 AM

Post #9362340

Good morning brom addicts!
where to begin today?
Nev, I hope my Aechmea 'Red Bands' is a sport and makes me a milion. I'm sure, when all the fuss dies down, and they become cheaper, I will send you a pup. LOL
Thank you for the nice comments about the new gardens, and the Neos I posted previously. Yes, your N. 'Break Of Day' has much more yellow in it, as did mine when they were younger. This is one plant that goes through a variety of colour changes as it grows. I prefer it in its juvenile stages.
I'm pretty sure Jack did the Angela and Milky way crosses in both directions. He seems to try everything in all directions when its flowering. How else could he come up with all those beautiful colour combinations? I usually have a isit with him aorund New Year, and catch up with another brom friend that visits him at that time. I must see what they are doing this year. It doesn't seem like that long ago when I was there last, and they were constructing a pond, so I'd love to see how the garden has come along.
I agree with Trish, and think your shutters look so professional, and neat and tidy! I'm sure they will do the trick and keep out the cold or salt laden winds, to some degree at least. You will have some quality plants to show at next years annual bromeliad show.
Your orchids are gorgeous. I bought a piece from Toukley markets a few years ago, and split it. I put half in a pot and tied the other half to a palm. The one in the palm flowered this year, and the one in the pot has been growing and flowering for a couple of years. I also inherited another two pots of it from leisaD, so have plenty to spread the smell of cloves (or something similar?) around the garden.
Trish, we had a patch of grass getting sizzled yesterday. I don't know how hot it was, but the pool is now 30 degrees, but still cool enough to freshen up in. Hubby watered the dry patch last night, but we've had overnight rain (thank goodness) and the forecast is for more. I'm hoping it rains for a couple of days, to keep me indoors so I can get the house tidy for visitors on Xmas day.
I remember seeing a lady at the markets selling Vriesea philippo-coburgii as V. altodasserae. She had the Andrew Steens book out and had the picture of V. altodasserae showing the flower spike. I am quite familiar with V. philippo-coburgii and knew it from its round, red tipped leaves, and the picture in the book of V. altodasserae had very distinct pointed tips. I guess it was the flower that had convinced her of its name, as I believe they are quite similar. This same seller once sold me an Orthophytum tricolour, as a variegated Tillandsia! Nice lady, just ill informed.
N. 'Golden King' in the photo, is about as good as it gets. I have seen other clones that have a more yellow foliage, and mine is quite pale.
I haven't heard of Neo. 'Reverence' but will look out for it on my travels. I looked it up in the brom photo index. It looks to be a darker red than N. 'Kings Ransom'. I love your V. 'Black On Yellow', where did you get that one?
Shirley, you are so right with the Cicadas singing then suddenly stopping. They were singing again this morning, and yesterday afternoon, while driving up the highway, we passed stands of trees just humming with cicadas. so LOUD!
I'm guilty of sending the three sided box of broms, and yes, purely to avoid cubage! We had a local postal natzi who insisted on cubing everything, so thwarted her! She is long since gone, but the habit remains. Also a triangle is supposed to be stronger than a box.
I have had the same trouble with some variegtes as your N. 'Cane Fire' with the variegation being swamped by the colour. So i have done as you suggested and moved them to lower light. Its all in the eye of the beholder, and working out what you want from your plant.
Well, I'd better go check my spelling then find some photos, post this and get my morning started. Hopefully the rain will cool things off, but I have a feeling it will get quite steamy around here!
Sue
photo one in mini Neo. 'Misfit' it has banding underneath the leaves
photo to is a bunch of N. punctate type minis. I can't tell them all apart!
photo three is a try of unlabelled Aechmeas. I'll have to wait for a flower on these.
photo four is a Neo embedded in a border of Minis (?) the Neo in the middle is a striated one, but losing the lines in high light. I purchased it from Ebay, labelled as 'Exotica Satin' but think not. I liked it anyway so bought it as it wasn't dear.
Photo five is a close up. It used to be a dark burgundy when it less light.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 19, 2012
12:35 PM

Post #9362387

Shirley heres my Cane Fire pup. Yes the edge is white, whatever yours is though Shirley its awsome, i love it.

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

December 20, 2012
3:04 AM

Post #9362797

Good morning all. Another scorcher here today and still no rain. Hate to see my water bill for this quarter. Sue I love your Neo Golden King and the curls on your Bill. Catherine Wilson. I haven’t got that one. The tigery one I posted with the stripy pup is Skotak’s Tiger x Hannibal Lector x carolinae. I was just being lazy. Guess the stripe comes from carolinae. I took a photo of my Ae. Red Bands pup. It’s got some bands but I think yours is redder so maybe it is a sport.
Ian, I like your Neo April. It looks quite similar to Bill Morris. Hope you have a safe trip and enjoy Christmas with your daughter.
Trish, you’ve got a very pretty Vr. Angela x Milky Way. Mine was a real dud, plain green with just the slightest hint of pink around the edge and the pups came out odd shapes. I’ve done the crosses both ways recently so it’ll be interesting to see the results if I (fingers-crossed) get some seeds. Love your Vr. Yellow on Black. Where did you get it? Do you know anything about its parents? If you can ever bear to part with a pup I’d love to go on the list to buy or swap.
Shirley, Neo Canefire seems to be very variable. Yours looks very nice in both photos. Bree, yours is very pretty too but also a bit different. Even in the BCR photo it shows both albo and variegated plants. I’ve got one that was labelled Canefire Purple when I bought it. Don’t think there’s any such thing but it’s definitely albo and very different from another Canefire that I got recently. It’s much lighter and more variegated. We could always ask Shane Zaghini from Brisbane to clear up our dilemma. He bred it.
Nev, hope your thumb is on the mend. I think I brought you down a Moby Dick earlier this year so maybe you have 2. The Dyckia you mentioned is Yellow Glow. Here’s some info about it on BCR. http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?genus=DYCKIA&id=2395#2395 I’ve got one and your seedling is starting to look quite similar. I’ve put your name on the Neo Blast albino pup list but it mightn’t be anything special. Guess the possibility is in the genes. The Biancas are a bit like the Red Dragons, lots of variation because they’re seedlings. Wendy and I bought several tiny ones of each grex from Catlan’s for about $4 each and it’s been fun watching them grow. Can’t wait for my seedlings to start showing some individuality. Actually my seedlings Vr Dad’s Fav. X Red Erotica(?)s from Wendy's seeds are starting to get some red stripes underneath so they’ve got potential. Your orchids are lovely and you’ve done a great job with your windbreaks. Very neat.
Photos are 1. Baby Ae. Red Bands 2. Baby Ae. phanerophlebia looking very cute. 3. My favourite Neo marmorata albo with Canefire (purple) in front of it. 4. Some lovely pink babies on Vr. Pink Sensation from Sue 5. An unusual one called Wittrockia superba.
Night all, Jen

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 20, 2012
3:41 AM

Post #9362802

Hi Everyone!

Sorry I have left my run a bit late tonight and am about to head off to bed (nice pics everyone), I will catch up with you all over the weekend and respond to everone's threads then I promise.

Have a great day tommorrow!

Happy Gardening!

Trish

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 20, 2012
4:57 AM

Post #9362828

Hi all, as Jen said, another very hot day here in Brissie today. I did manage to repot a few of my larger vrieseas that were getting very cramped.

No post from Nev today, I hope his thumb hasn’t dropped off. Seriously Nev, I hope it is healing well and you will be back typing up a frenzy again soon.

Sue, I think I will move my neo Cane Fire to where it will get less light as you did with yours as I am still very attracted to the variegated broms. I do like your pic 5 ‘Exotica Satin’ or whatever, love that colour and the striations are clearly visible on the lower leaves.

Bree, I prefer the white margined Cane Fire but wouldn’t part with mine, and I love the colour of Jen’s too.

Jen, hope you are enjoying the school hols. You have some really lovely broms, I have a few that I have bought at Wendy’s sales. I adore Neo marmorata albo and it’s one I have been chasing for a while now. If you ever get a spare pup, I would love to buy or swap please and that lovely neo Cane Fire purple too.

Trish, just one more day and it’s the weekend. Do you have to work Monday, I would imagine a lot of people would be taking a day’s leave and having 5 days off. I feel sorry for the poor shop assistants who get only one day off and then there’s the hectic boxing day sales.

Just a couple of pics tonight, neo hazel mac and an unnamed small black neo.

Bye for now, Shirley



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perke_patch

December 20, 2012
5:18 AM

Post #9362835

Hi all
Just a quick one tonight as I am pretty wrecked after driving for 2 days up and back again. at least in the air conditioned car I didn't feel the heat so much. If anything it was the opposite as Emily asked me to stop at a shop to buy her some socks as her feet were cold. Had to turn the air con down a bit then.

I stopped in at Cooran which was a bit difficult to find as they had opened the new section of highway and the Cooran turnoffs are now on the old highway. So I came down too far and had to go through Pomona and back up to Cooran. Anyway the back of the Honda was full to the roof with blanchetiana pups plus a few tills and guzmanias in exchange for the bag of hangers we got for them last week at Garden City Plastics. I think at even $3 each we certainly got the better end of that deal. However when they come here we give them broms to take back and vise versa. It is nice to swap plants with great friends.

I also love that vrisea yellow on black and would love to swap a pup for something else when it produces all those pups you will need to supply all of us LOL.

Sue love your new gardens. took a while tonight to read all the posts for 3 days. Nev sorry to hear about your accident with the drill. I hate watching Johnny with power tools as he is always doing things like you did. We were putting a new shade structure up down the back before I went away and I was holding pipes against the fence while he drilled and screwed them to the fence. Anyway at one time the drill grabbed on and threw his arm so far around I thought either his wrist or his shoulder had to have been broken. we didn't put the rest of them up after that but when I came home today, you guessed it he's now gone all the way to the back corner and halfway along the back fence. It will be now almost impossible for anyone to jump the fence into our yard as they will have to leap up and over to land a good number of feet into the yard. It will also be nearly impossible for them to find a flat surface to land on with so many broms everywhere below. anyway that will be almost the last of the fairly sunny spots in the yard covered after so many burns on broms these last few weeks. Nev we might have to try your idea of drop down blinds to add a bit more shade and protection.

Sue I also checked our ae red bands after your pic was posted and our pup was smaller than Jen's but still not as red as yours so it will be interesting to see how it develops.
Jen I like the red pups on vr pink sensation. I can't recall that we have that one ... not familiar at all especially with the albo stripe.
I also love n. golden king. the first one I got was not long after my mum died and I saw this neo called kathleen. as that was my mum's name I had to have it and then I bought golden king and side by side they were exactly the same. I now have a collection of special variegated neos that I grow down the side of the house with my billbergias. they don't mix with the others and I am picky who gets them. they include n. piccolo, and a couple of others that I can't think of right now. however by the time my pups of golden king and piccolo get on that shelf unit it is pretty good. (now there I go again thinking too much about where the double letter should be ... the c or the l... I know there is a double) I should just type and not think as I start second guessing myself. I typed it both ways and double c looks more right I think.

Can't keep my eyes open any longer so I'm off to bed. only thing I will ad is we have had no rain here even though we had a lot of noise and light the other night. so yesterday the truck came and filled our tanks once again. that's 3 times this year already. however I'd rather pay the $100 per time than lose a lot of our broms. The seedlings certainly do take a lot of watering to keep them growing well. as soon as you take those lids off the takeaway containers they need daily watering which takes a lot of time. I've discovered that the deep round takeaway containers are no good in this weather. I had lovely crops of billbergias in those to allow them more time to grow taller before they touched the lid and it had to be removed. however with the heat this week I think they just got too hot down inside the little space and curled up. I repotted and thinned them out in deep mix in shallower rectangualr trays but a lot were too far gone and just fell apart when moving them. some I was able to just lift the whole lot out add extra mix underneath and then replace the round clump on top so the green bits were out the top of the dish. hopefully I can save at least some of them. wish I'd repotted weeks ago. ah well another thing to note in the learning journal.

Night all
Wendy
perke_patch

December 20, 2012
5:29 AM

Post #9362847

Shirley you posted while I was typing. I love your little black neo. that is so dark isn't it? wonder what it is. it looks like something I have but can't think of a name. I'll look through pics and see if I can find it. Possibly too black to be little africa. see pic 1 showing plants grown in 3 different locations from left clockwise a lot of sun, high under shadecloth and r is too much shade.
or it could be tar baby which has that deep black glossy leaves but only pic I have is a pup. will find it tomorrow and get updated pic of more mature plants.

night again.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 20, 2012
10:25 AM

Post #9363060

your canefires lovely Jen and so is your Neo marmorata albo.
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 20, 2012
11:22 AM

Post #9363099

Top of the morning to you! Its friday! Yaaaaaay!
got to do house work. Boooooooo! heh heh
its all good.
Jen, I will put your name down for a Billbergia 'Catherine Wilson'. It has a small pup now (mine) but when it gets another it will be yours. I did put a seed pod down, but it looks like only one seed has germinated. I don't like its chances of success!
I have a pup on my Aechmea phanerophlebia too, and its as red as my A. 'Red Bands' but both are so small. I will keep an eye on the latter to see if it retains the red or not.
I love your marmorata variegate too. The purple cane fire really sets it off. And congratulations on your V. 'Pink Sensation' pups, although I cant see the albo stripe Wendy mentioned.
Is the Wittrockia a very large plant? I think I might have seen one at Peters, but can't recall.
Shirley, we have had the heat here too. It makes it very hard to get motivated to go outside, so i have been doing the bulk of my work early in the morning or after 4pm, with a dip in the pool when it all gets too much. I've started cooking on the bbq too, to avoid heating the house any more than it is.
Today has begun quite windy, and overcast. Probably a good day to be inside cleaning. Ugh!
I love your little black brom. Just like Wendy said, it seems familair to me to, and I am leaning toward N. 'Little Black' or 'Tar Baby' I think one has pointed leaf tips and the other, rounded, but Ican't recall which. I just looked on the bromeliad photo index, and it looks as though N. 'Tar Baby' has the pointed leaves. So maybe N. 'Little black'? I also like N. 'Hazel Mac' is this a mini also?
Wendy, thats a long post for a short one! LOL. I'm glad your trip went well and you were able to stock up on some more plants. It sounds like Johnny was very productive while you were gone. Sometimes thats better than having to watch them hurt themselves! I hope you get some rain, when you need it, to fill those tanks. We have been lucky and had our tanks filled overnight a few weeks back, with 110mm of rainfall. We've only had one or two ml in each fall since then, but its keeping the tanks topped up
Anyway, it is getting light outside, so I might take a peep and see if the day lends itself to walking the dogs. Else I'll throw the ball awhile.
Sue
Photo one is a Billbergia from Jean, many years ago. I love how big and dark it is! I haven't anything to cross it with, as it needs pollen from a colourful one. I'd like to keep the size, which means it has to be the pod parent. next time a coloured one is blooming, I will freeze some pollen.
Photo two is a new orchid. Its a Miltoniana. I bought it for a friend for Xmas. $20 at big W
Photo three is Oncidium 'Sharry baby' a sweet smelling orchid.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

December 20, 2012
1:10 PM

Post #9363214

Hello everyone. I am always here reading but had to pop in and say how big that brom has grown Sue.
I have so many of them around here now as they pup like mad. The original ones from the epi collection are still sitting way out among the weeds around the tree stumps where I dumped them back in 2006. They still pup and flower whatever the weather. Got to be the most hardy brom I have seen down here.
I have some in the open shadehouse where they happily sit in the ground . They pup and flower every year.
For those looking at Sues, mine are not quite as dark but I notice the ones in the shadehouse are darker than those outside.
Its bil. Gerda, for anyone wanting to know.

Sue your garden is magic. As are all the other gardens I see on here.
A far cry from my dry jungle at the moment.

My broms are all happy in their greenhouse and I must take pups from some that have grown large.
I notice one is pushing poor Mum out of the pot..

I seem to have acquired a few more broms over the last few weeks. I must stop as there is no more room in the greenhouse.
I will move all the old mums to the back shadehouse soon. The pups will then have their own space to grow .
I usually sell them at the trash & treasure twice a year to get pocket money to buy my potting mix etc.
Lucky I dont live up near any of you as I would be wanting to buy all I see.
I had better stick with the irises, epis and brugs .

I wish you all a very happy time over Christmas and the New Year.

Jean.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 20, 2012
1:24 PM

Post #9363227

Hi everyone – Wow! Only four more sleeps till Christmas, hasn't it come around fast this year?

Greetings to all those who are just watching in but not posting, but most of all, to our good friends who were regular posters but haven't posted for a while due to health problems. I wish you all a safe and happy Christmas and a bountiful new year and may your brom's give birth to multiple pups.

It's 4.00am here and I can't sleep as this bloody thumb keeps throbbing so I though I'd just do a bit of “brom talking” to kill a bit of time, so please excuse me if this post isn't as long as it usually is.

Trish – The plant of Jen's that you like is Neo. 'Blast' and not 'Blast Off', it is like a lot of variegated plants which because they are often a little unstable, occasionally produces a wonderful surprise such as this; a beautiful plant but very often just a “once off” before it reverts back to where it was before. However we always keep our fingers crossed that it will produce more of the same and become a stabilised cultivar of Neo 'Blast' which can then be registered and named.

Sorry, but I can't help you with the Neo 'Reverence'; in fact I think you would have a better chance of getting it up there than I would down here as it's a Grace Goode hybrid registered in 2001 and comes from Neo. 'Tangerine' x 'One and Only' and there should be a bit of it around up in your area.

Yes Trish Brassia Verrucosa is one of my favourite orchid species which flowers reliably every year at Christmas time without fail. It has 23 spikes on it this year, not quite as good as last year (25) so maybe it's time I re-potted it and gave it a bit of food and moire space to grow. It seems to like growing in that shallow terracotta saucer but the trouble is that the one it's in now seems to be as big as they get so I may have to break it into two plants something I really don't want to do but something I probably need to do whether I like it or not.

As for your little seedlings with the bit of Algae starting to grow on them, I have often removed the lid on my seedlings suffering the same fate without any problem. Just make sure they are not in strong light and put it back on again at night. I am however in a different climate to you so I can't guarantee it will work the same way for you, so I would suggest you just try it for a couple of hours each day and gradually increase the time the lid is off making sure that they don't dry out.

Shirley – As far as postage costs go, I was told by the nice young lass in our Post Office that it doesn't matter what size the box is, if you can keep the weight below 500gm you can send it anywhere in Australia for $6.60 and this is something I've done many times as I send plants to S.A., Vic and Qld. This seems to be a standard rate and it's when it's
over this weight that they start to measure the box as well. I have found that poly-styrene boxes are the best as they are strong and “light as a feather” and can be used over and over. I use broccoli boxes for large lots of plants and a smaller size box which grapes come in for the smaller plants. Down here, the small ones are available at most fruit shops free of charge but the broccoli boxes in some shops cost $1 as they have to pay a deposit on each box.

As far as 'Cane Fire' goes, it is albo-marginated just like Neo 'Predator' but like Predator, I don't see why it can't sometimes revert and lose the light coloured leaf margins. It's a Shane Zaghini hybrid from a cross of Neo. (Carolinae x Concentrica) x Barbarian. I know that when variegated plants lose their variegation and produce “plain coloured pups” they should have have the word “NOVAR” (NO VARiegation) written after the name so as not to deceive the person buying the plant into thinking the variegations will come eventually. In the case of a plant like yours which has lost the "albo" leaf margins, I don't know what that's supposed to be called as it's not a true 'Cane Fire', nor is it a NOVAR either. Does anyone else have anything to add to this? To see the picture of the “real deal” go to: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3452#3452

Sue – Sorry to hear you're copping it so hot up there. I guess we should be thankful for our afternoon “Nor'easters” which blow a cooling breeze off the sea almost every afternoon and are a great relief on hot days, but then on other days they can be quite strong and uncomfortable so I guess there's just no pleasing us. One thing for sure is that we can't change “Mother Nature” so best try and work with her, that's why I made the shutters to break the force of the strong south winds.

I really like the little yellowish coloured miniatures in your garden bed in your pic.2 and when you have a spare pup or two I would be glad to swap for something I have that you would like.

What you say about the lady at the markets selling brom's identified from a similar pic in a book reminds me of what happened to me a couple of years back. There was a lady at Kiama Markets who sold brom's and did a similar thing, but on one particular day she had a heap of Vr Ospinae plants (about half grown) which she said she didn't have a name but thought they might be a “new sort of brom” but wasn't sure, hence the price ($1 each). Naturally I bought the lot, but then feeling a bit guilty, I went back later and bought a couple of her other plants at the right price.

Jen - It's interesting you mention Neo 'Moby Dick', the day after Ian suggested my unnamed plant could be Moby Dick I was poking around the plants and saw a similar plant which had grown much larger than I had remembered it. When I looked at the label it was Neo. 'Moby Dick' and written on the back of the label was all the usual details I write followed by “Jen” so I knew where it came from. You see my memory isn't as good as yours, that's why I write these things down on the name tag. All I need to do now is somehow transfer all of this information onto a computer file and I'll have it at my finger tips. Many times I have made a start but have got side tracked and never finished it, so maybe it might have to be a New Years Resolution.

I like your Neo Marmorata albo-marginata, I haven't seen that one before and it certainly makes a nice “centre piece” among all of your other variegated plants.

Shirley – It never ceases to amaze me of the quality of the NOIDS you seem to be able to “dig up” from different places; you have posted some beautiful NOIDS during this last year and to top it off your Pic.2 today is yet another NOID and probably the darkest colour I have ever seen with a nice shape as well. Please put me down for a pup when ever you get a spare.

The pups you sent arrived in great condition yesterday so an “early Christmas present for Nev”. I'll wait until after the Christmas mail rush before I send your plants back.

Wendy – Regarding your seedling containers requiring a lot of watering once the lids are off, what I do is this: When I remove the lids I also use an angle grinder to cut drainage holes in the bottom of the containers and sit them all in a cut down broccoli box (six to a box) into which I've put a bed of 25mm of Coco Peat on the bottom. I first give this Coco Peat a good soaking and as the broccoli box has no holes in the bottom every time you water, the excess runs through the container and into the Coco Peat in the bottom of the box. This maintains a continually moist bed of Coco Peat which creates humidity and also is a reserve from which the plants can draw water. Being continually damp it also seems to encourage quicker root growth on the plantlets in the containers. By using this method I only need to water them once a week in hot weather and once every three weeks during the cooler months. (Your climate will dictate how often you need to water).

Sue – I like you little Miltonia. Did you know there are two different types, the type you have and another much hardier type more closely aligned to Oncidiums. This second type has similar cultural requirements to Oncidiums and the Brassia genera.

Today I'll finish with a few more pic's, Pic.1 is for Wendy and is of my cut down broccoli boxes with the seedling containers in them on a bed of Coco Peat; Pic's 2 and 3 show the shutters in the open position from a couple of different angles. There's still a bit of painting to be done but you'll get the idea. I racked my brain for a suitable way to hold them open but finally decided on the KISS system and just made simple props out of the same size timber that the shutters were made from. This was just 10cm (second hand) treated pine decking ripped down the centre to give me 5cm wide strips. I got this from our rail museum as people often deliver old paling fences for us to burn in the boilers and occasionally they will also drop of a bit of “treated stuff' as well. As we can't burn this because of the toxic fumes it gives off, we either have to pay to dump it at the tip or give it away. Being a scrounger and a re-cycling addict from way back I'm happy to take it off their hands in most cases. , Pic's 4 and 5 show the little metal cleats which I screwed to each side of the props at the top to prevent them slipping off the shutters. (these were what I was drilling when I drilled my thumb).

All the best, Nev.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 21, 2012
4:57 AM

Post #9363640

Hi all, we had a few spots of rain this afternoon, I know ‘cos I saw little spots on the concrete ... certainly not enough to do any good.

Wendy, sounds like you had a very rushed trip to Hervey Bay and back. Also sounds like a nice haul of blanchetianas … where on earth are you going to put them all. I have neo Little Africa and it is different to the really black one I posted yesterday.

Sue, I don’t think it’s neo Little Black either but it’s probably the closest I have seen. Neo Hazel Mac is a small grower but not a mini.

Jean, great to see your post.

Nev, that’s a short post? Good to see you are able to type despite your sore thumb and I hope the throbbing lets up soon. Really pleased to hear your new babies arrived safe and unscathed by their travels. I have you down for a pup from the spotty NOID I posted earlier in the week along with Neo Chantilly and also the black neo from last night’s post. I am pretty sure there was another one from a while back but I lost my list when my old computer died. If you remember any others, please remind me.

Hi to Trish, Jen, Bree and Ian

Just 2 pics tonight, neo Jewellery Shop and an Alan Freeman hybrid neo

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 21, 2012
10:46 AM

Post #9363868

Good morning.
We had a bit of overnight rain last night. Too dark to go and see how much is in the guage, but I imagine its around 6-7mm. I watered all the shade houses yesterday afternoon, so everything has had a good soak now!
It got fairly warm yesterday, but we had a lovely breeze arriving in the early afternoon which saw the temperature drop after midday, and it was quite bearable.
Hello Jean. Thanks for the name on that Billbergia. It has been proped up in the middle of the golden cane palms for the last couple of years, as it outgrew its pot. I really should put it in a larger pot, but it seems quite happy there, and flowers seem to appear randomly throughout the year.
Thank you for the compliment on my garden. I take it you are having a dry start to summer? What is your long range forecast? Any plans for Xmas? I love the way you are determined to deny being a brom addict! "I must stop' she says! heh heh
Morning Nev, I hope your thumb has stopped throbbing by now? I get split thumbs in cold weather, from washing pots e.t.c. and they are bad enough. I once put a needle through my finger on an industrial walking foot sewing machine, and although the needle went through, the most painful part of the process was the anaesthetic needle used to give me pain relief, when they removed the bit still in there, and also the bruising caused when the foot of the machine ran over my finger. Yeh, that throbbed and I can totally sympathise with you. Funny story. When that happened, the first thing I did was ring hubby. He said 'what do you want me to do about it?' He was working as an interstate truck driver and was half way accross the nullabor!
The yellow mini Neo.s in that garden are all tiger cub types Nev, with no name tags, but I can getyou one of each if I can tell the difference. Its a good way of growing them as they can spread as much as they like. I have quite alot of N. 'fireball' and am thinking about putting alot in the garden too, as they don't need looking after, once they are in, and it is easy to harvest the pups as needed.
Sounds like you got a good bargain from the lady at Kiama. I have a V. ospinae that is going on for two foot tall and has lots of pups up the entire length of the stem. I haven't decided if I should take some pups off or leave it and see how tall it will get. I might tie it to the old tree trunk its leaning on.
I like your seed raising area. Its so neat, and the containers fit so well in the styrofoam boxes. I am steering away from the cocoa peat, because of the fungus gnats, but I guess the same could be done with a layer of sphagnum? I might dry some out and then see if I can shred it a bit finer.
I suspect it is getting quite hot in my plastic hothouse now, but have the door open and am watering about every three days. I don't have a great deal in there at this time, but it was good for over winter. If I can get my hands on some more styrofoam, I caould set it up neatly like yours. Boxes seem to be as rare as hens teeth here!
Shirley, your N. 'Jewellery Shop' is beautifully grown. I need to try growing one a bit harder I think. I grew one very hard a few years back and had a totally yellow centre with red outer leaves, but it was small. Now i have them almost totally orange all over, with gold streaks, so i have to find a happy medium. Your Alan freeman hybrid looks alot like N. 'Painted lady' is it as red as in the photo?
Hubby has gone on a Xmas fishing trip with his work mates, so I am on my own today with the yard! I hope its cooler today as i can't get motivated to do much outside when its hot. I might just do some potting, although I am short of space for newly potted plants, and need hubby to help with the next shade house. maybe I should brave the crowds and do some shopping instead? Let me see, shopping or potting? yep, potting it is.
It seems I didn't take any new photos yesterday, so i will take a few today while i am in the garden.
Have a good weekend everyone, and I hope you are all set for Xmas.
Sue
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 21, 2012
11:48 AM

Post #9363904

I was going to say “Hi All”, but surprisingly there's you and I Shirley - P.S. (Oh! I should have known, Sue's just popped in as I was about to post this and beat me at the post once again). I suppose everyone else is rushing around doing all the last minute Christmas things before Santa comes. I guess having limited mobility does have some benefits, as I don't have to do any of this frenzied Christmas shopping and can just look after my brom's here in my own yard instead.

Jean – I missed you yesterday as we both must have posted together, either that or D.G.'s playing tricks on me again. Anyway it's nice to see you dropping in as it's been a long time since we previously heard from you .

Shirley – The reason for the long post yesterday was that I had a lot of catching to do, and I think my thumb is on the improve as it isn't throbbing as much as it was the day before, that is until I bumped it last night, but it soon settled down again, and as you've probably guessed by now, I'll talk about brom's all day, given half a chance.

Seems you are in the same boat as me as I lost a list I had of swaps I was to do with other brom mates. I will find the plants eventually as I always write the name of the people wanting pups on the back of the name tag so come re-potting time, all will be revealed.

I think there was another one of yours I was after as well so I'll look back through the posts and see if I can find it. Of the ones you sent on the list, I have 'Prince of Darkness', 'Amazing Grace', 'Orange Glow' (I think) and 'Golden King', so I'll get them to you after the Christmas rush and if there's any others you think of in the mean time, please let me know.

You've posted two nice pic's again, 'Jewellery Shop' is always a very popular plant and although I don't know the second one, there's very few of the hybrids released by Alan Freeman that weren't worth growing as he made some beautiful plants.

Sue - We haven't had any rain for a week or two now although they keep fore-casting it, but it seems like a nice coolish day today so I'll water everything to be on the safe side. That Bill sure has nice dark colour and the good thing is that I'm sure Jean sent me a bit a while back also, all I have to do is try and find it today in my jungle.

I understand what you say about your finger you tried to sew, I found it wasn't the wound that was causing the pain, but the swelling and bruising on the side opposite the actual wound.

You say you have a lot of Neo. 'Fireballs', why don't you mix them up with the yellow ones as I'm sure they'd look great as red and yellow seem to compliment each other beautifully.

I found that Vr. Ospinae was one of the plants that responded well to the extra fertilising plus extra prill in the lower leaf axils. I tried it on one of the ones I got from this lady and at last count I had taken 13 pups from it and it's not finished yet as there are still some grass like pups appearing all around the bare stem - a really interesting plant.

I'm fortunate with the Coco Peat as I don't seem to be troubled with these "gnats" you speak of, maybe because our climate is a tad cooler than yours, who knows? Anyway I don't see why finely chopped sphagnum wouldn't work as well as it will hold water also and I expect you will get the same result as I do.

My son-in-law went "outside" fishing on a charter boat with some of his work mates yesterday and the westerly wind came up and bugged up the fishing and as they were coming back a "southerly buster"came up and all he got was a good dose of sea sickness...bugger.

I'll finish now with just a few random pic's from around the back yard taken yesterday. This is an area which I'm re-arranging and some of the plants are in temporary positions as you will see by the pot hangers still attached.

As well as hanging pots with these hangers, I also use them as handles to facilitate easy handling and save me bending down to pick up plants. So every plant I re-pot, I attach a (handle) and leave it attached until I've found a permanent location for the plant at which time it's removed. So anyone with a crook back that has trouble bending, try this out; it will save you a bit of back pain.

The last picture is of a young Pewee who flew onto the table on the back porch; I could see he had some sort of thread wrapped around his right foot, so over a couple of days I made friends with him until I could coax him into the back (closed in) porch while my wife went around the back from another direction and closed the door. I was then able to catch him and together we removed the threads from his foot before releasing him.

I fear he was in very poor condition though as the "keel bone" (sternum in a human) in his chest was very prominent which is a sign of a sick bird, so maybe he had been caught up somewhere for a while and unable to feed or drink , so we'll just have to hope he's OK.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

December 22, 2012
3:27 AM

Post #9364434

Hi all I had asafe trip down here and we have limited internet service here for financial reasons. It is ok just my daughters plan. My grandson arrived on Friday morning at 4 45 am weighing about 6lb11 oz.. The little sleepy wheat growing town of Dalby went to cotton about 20 years ago and the last 10 years Coal and coal seam gas are the big industries here now. There is a coal stockpile and loader at macalister and stockpiles of coal from Bowenvile to Jondaryan. I couldn't see how they load it there though. not much happening with my Daughters broms .
Have a good one.
Ian
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 22, 2012
3:30 AM

Post #9364435

Hi Everyone!

Yes finally it’s the weekend and I also have some quality time off over the festive season so it’s like double hooray!!!

All the Christmas shopping is out of the road which is a huge relief.

It was nice this morning waking up to no alarm going off, apart from the girls woke us up at about 6am to take them for a walk on the beach which we did and it was really nice. A sleep in would have been nice but we have time for that.

It’s stinking hot today out in the garden. Joe hedged the hedges; whipper snipped and mowed all the lawns today so it looks really neat apart from the dead patches of lawn. I racked up all the leaves of the Avocado and Mango so I can mulch them all up, then I temp shade covered yet another large section of garden where I have my bromeliads as we cut back some of the shrubs / gingers that slightly sheltered some of them but have noticed over the past couple of weeks that unfortunately the bromeliads are not getting enough shade from the paperbark trees out in the wetland area, they are not burning thankfully but some of them are losing their beautiful colour. It won’t be much to get their colour back and the shade cloth will do the trick.

Hi Shirley glad to hear the gingers I sent you survived and you have them potted up. I have ours growing in the garden as they grow to about 2mtrs. You can grow them in pots also but they would eventually need a bigger pot and a lot of watering. You can get miniature gingers and I have a miniature red ginger that grows to about 1mtr and it is really cute and the smaller flowers it produces are gorgeous (just like the large Pink Ginger but smaller in size and colour). Great also to hear you got the Ginger / Heliconia Cultural notes I emailed, hope they are of benefit.

Thanks Shirley for explaining postage cost, that it’s not calculated on size of box but on weight, I am very new to posting plants so appreciate you letting me know.

Yeah Shirley thanks I too think Vr. Yellow on Black is a beauty, it is so dark compared to all my other vrieseas. Yes I too like Neo. Cane Fire, I have mine in the garden with 70% shade cloth over it. All the shade cloth I use around the garden is 70% even the stuff in the entertainment area where all my vriesea’s are. Shirley your Neo. Cane Fire looks so different to mine?

Oh Shirley if you can spare one down the track any chance of you putting me down for a pup (after Nev as he got in early lol) of that unusual unnamed small black neo pic you posted on 20/12, it’s SO very different to any of the mini neo’s I have, I am so blown away by how dark she is? Pic 1 Neo ‘Hazel Mac’ is also very cute and has great shape.

Hi Sue glad to hear you have been getting some rain, we are still waiting in anticipation as our grass is getting fried out there and it makes no difference how much we water, but if it rains I know this will make a huge difference because it always does as you can’t beat a good bit of fresh rain to bring everything back to life.

Yeah Sue I agree Vr. philippo-coburgii (round chocolate tips) is very different to Vr. altodasserae (pointed tips), I have both and they are very different when comparing them side by side. I have never seen either of them flower but I have seen pictures of Vr. Philippo-coburgii’s flower which I really liked.

Sue / Jen Vr. Black on Yellow I purchased from EBay back in June 2012, with not much info provided by the seller at the time other than “Rarely ever offered on EBay, the outer of the leaves on this Vriesea are much darker than the centre, the picture had not captured the contrast between the centre and the remainder of the plant. It is a medium sized grower”. I really luv it because it is the darkest Vriesea that I have so far and is just that little bit different when displayed amongst my other vriesea’s. Unfortunately I know nothing about its parents?

Thanks Sue that would be great if you could keep your eye out for Neo ‘Reverence’, I think it is such a pretty brom.

Sue that Neo ‘Exotica Satin’ or whatever pic you posted on 19/12 is gorgeous. We also like the Orchid Pics you posted on the 20/12, I have seen Joes Oncidium ‘Sharry Baby’ flower and got to smell it, isn’t it a beautiful little orchid with those cute little flowers, it’s amazing how strong the perfume smells from something so tiny.

Hi Jen sorry to hear your Vr. Angela x Milky Way turned out to be a real dud. We got our one from EBay from a reputable seller that we always buy from and the pic the seller had posted was identical to what we got in the mail and we went WOW when we unwrapped it from the box, the pup is doing really well and I think it will change colour when it flowers.

Jen no worries, I will keep you in mind for a pup from Vr. Yellow on Black, hope you don’t mind being patient though because she is still relatively small and I want to keep at least a couple of the first pups I get from her because she is not as tough leafed as some of my other Vriesea’s, her leaves are a lot more delicate, so easier for her to get damaged so I want to make sure I have a couple of back up plants of her. In the interim if I see her again for sale I will probably look at getting another because I adore her that much.

Jen luved all beautiful brom pics you posted on 20/12, especially Pic 3 Neo ‘Marmorata albo with Cane Fire (purple), and Pic 4 Neo ‘Pink Sensation’ those cute pink babies are gorgeous.

Hi Jean so nice to hear from you; and wishing you also a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Hi Nev hope that your thumbs much better, glad to hear it’s only throbs now and again when you hit it by accident. Thanks for clarifying that Jen’s Neo ‘Blast’ that I mentioned I like is not Neo ‘Blast Off’. Thanks also for the info on Neo ‘Reverence’ I have been chasing this one for years but still no luck, I have looked high and low without any luck. If I ever stubble across one I will probably question if it is for real or not lol.

Nev thanks for your advice regarding my little vriesea seedlings with algae growing in a couple of the trays, I will give your advice a go while I am off and let you know how I go, at least I am home to monitor their progress.

Nev that’s fantastic what you do with your seedlings and the cocoa peat, I will keep that in mind for my babies once I have set-up some shelving in the nursery. I also liked Sue’s idea with the sphagnum moss too if it was cut up fine enough.

Nev great pics also of your shutters in open position, they look great, as well as all the Pics you posted on 21/12 WOW look at all those gorgeous bromeliads, all that glorious colour. I would want to set up camp in there if I visited because all those colours mixed together are breath taking. That was very kind what you and your wife did for that poor little bird, anyway you never know with birds sometimes, hopefully it comes back to visit for food and a drink of water and keeps coming back to visit.

Pic 1 and 2 - Took some random pics today of some broms that I temp moved under the Avocado tree while I cleaned the area where they usually live. If you want to know what any of them are please let me know.
Pic 3, Pic 4 and Pic 5 – Mixture of broms under temp shade area, they have been there at least a month now and seem happy.

Anyway that it for me tonight time to put the kettle on.

Take care and Happy Gardening Everyone! Look forward to speaking with you all real soon.

Trish

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 22, 2012
3:35 AM

Post #9364439

Congratulation Ian your a Grandad! Hope mum and baby are doing really well.

Trish

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 22, 2012
5:27 AM

Post #9364488

Hi all, another very hot day and a few spots of rain a couple of hours ago, I think it lasted about 20 seconds. I didn’t get to do much outside today other than hang out lots of washing … and it certainly dried quickly. I did do some watering and pulled a few weeds but like Sue it’s a question of will I do housework or gardening, hmmm vacuuming or potting … usually the housework loses but I really had to get in and do it today.

Sue, the Alan Freeman neo is more purple than red, and it’s quite large … a real eye catcher. Enjoy your day on your own … you probably should have gone shopping but it certainly wouldn’t be a nice, leisurely shop at the moment.

Sue, Nev, Vr ospinae is one that I find doesn’t grow well for me. I have placed a saucer of water under the pot and initially it seemed to perk up a bit but it never looks really happy in its present environment. Maybe I should put it out into the garden.

Nev, your garden looks great and that is one lucky little peewee in your pic, hope he makes it OK. I will post a pic of neo Hatsumi?

Ian, glad you had a good trip to Dalby and thanks for the update on the industry there now. It has been quite a few years since we have been there … I haven’t moved on from the wheat farming era. Congrats on the arrival of your new grandson, has he been named yet.

Trish, great to hear you have some time off over Xmas. One of the ginger plants you sent is looking a little less happy than the other … do you think it would be better planted in a shady spot in the garden rather than restricted in a pot. I am sure it will be OK either way and thanks again.

As Nev pointed out, postage costs vary once the weight exceeds 500 grams. It then depends on the size as well as the weight and also the distance and can be very exxy. There is a postage calculator on Aust Post’s website that might be useful to you in the future.

Trish, I have added your name to the pup list for the small black neo … I think for now I’ll call it ‘Little Black’ as Sue suggested it might be.

Such lovely broms in your pics, I have a real leaning towards the variegated neos and the ones in your pic 1 are stunning, especially de Rolf and the one behind it … is that neo Yang? Also, what is the large variegated neo with the red centre and dark green (almost black) leaf edges which is situated slightly right of the middle in pic 3 and left of the middle in pic 4, please. And also that lovely pale neo which is in the middle, left of the post in pic 5 … beautiful plants both of them. Could I ask you to put my name on the waiting list for a pup from both these beauties please, whatever they are.

We are off to Bunnings and/or Masters tomorrow as I need to buy more potting mix and slow release fertilizer and confidor too. Will check out their broms too … I need a few more :o)

That’s it for now, gotta get my beauty sleep ... catch up tomorrow.

Pic 1 is neo Purple Cloud ? and pic 2 is neo Hatsumi ?

Bye for now, Shirley


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perke_patch

December 22, 2012
5:52 AM

Post #9364510

Hi everyone
Congratulations Ian on becoming a grandad. now the fun starts for you watching the little one grow and develop a personality. they say and do the funniest things which makes life worth living and laughing about.
We've had a couple of really good weeks with Max but last couple nights he's had a bit of trouble sleeping. Of course when he snorts and snuffles we wake up to see if he's OK. It wasn't till I had a night away and slept really well then came back to sharing a room with Max and heard him snuffling and snorting and keeping us waking up all night. I wake up in the mornings tired and yawn all day. If we come upstairs and sit down with our feet up for a cuppa I can easily fall asleep for a nanna nap. I sit in front of the computer at night and just want to finish reading all the posts so I can log off and go to bed. And just when you are at your tiredest and just want to flop in bed the computer decides it is going to install 14 or more updates before shutting down. So then you have to either wait for that to finish and turn powerpoints off or leave them on all night.
I uploaded a heap of photos last night onto the computer but it was too late to do anything with them by the time I had them sorted so I just went off to bed without even reading DG so lots of reading tonight. Now I just want to put my head down and sleep so I'll post a couple and finish tomorrow.

Pic 1 is my seedlings of ae macfoster (macrochlamys). Ross said this plant doesn't self set seed so I think the ants have tickled it with pollen from something else. anyway 4 seeds set and I still have 4 seedlings growing so we'll see what they produce in a few years.
Pic 2 is ae (recurvata v benrathii x weilbachii leodensis) x self (F2) oops DG turned it back around... sorry (not sure if I already posted this or not)
Pic 3 is the largest of the billbergia hallelujah F2 seedlings taken last week. boy they have grown since planted in March. I've just crossed 2 more hallelujahs with each other so hopefully I'll have some more to grow soon.

I think I'm going to lose a few batches of billbergia seedlings that had been planted in deep round containers. I think the air inside those just heat up too much and there is no air circulation because they were growing really really well and I had started planting them out then all of a sudden last week with the heat the seedlings started laying over in the pot and I accused Johnny of hitting them too hard with the hose which he denied. Anyway I decided to repot them all but too late for most. they were just too soft and soggy and fell apart when touched. hopefully I can save some. so if anyone is using these containers I suggest you fill half full of mix so seedlings are close to top before heat gets them. The deep rectangular dishes seem to be OK for billbergias.

Pic 4 is ae emivichal seedling which came from Nev. It is growing up high in a totem getting good light and the colour is just getting more and more stunning. However the plant is also getting quite large and will need a bigger pot soon.

Nev I planted some more of the seed you sent me using painted lady x NOID sport. I was spraying them today and I'm sure I can see faint white lines developing so I'm going to watch them very carefully. So many of our seedlings are getting to a size where they need to be potted up into normal sized pots instead of seedlings pots. once they reach that magic age they really take off don't they? I seem to be at that stage with a lot of them now. Of course it could be that we are now watering and fertilising more especially the foliar fertiliser. I'm also using watered down rooster booster sometimes and other times spraying with condy crystals so they are getting a varied diet of spray which they don't seem to be minding at all. I also am cutting holes in bottom of trays and standing in larger trays so they have a bit more of a water supply. this seems to be encouraging growth. I will be keeping an eye out now though for those broccoli boxes so I can fit 6 trays in one box. Jean lovely to hear from you again too. And Trish, Shirley, Sue, Jen, Ian, Nev, and all those others lurking out there and reading but not posting I say HI to all.

Well I'm off to bed now. I'm yawning up a storm and the jaw is clicking with each one so I need to get some shut eye.
Night all.
Wendy

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perke_patch

December 22, 2012
6:07 AM

Post #9364518

Shirley you posted while I was posted. Oh and I meant to say that my son had an ospinae in his garden but I didn't get a pic of it. It was leaning up against a tree trunk and growing out into the front into the sun but the pot it came from was a good 3 feet or more away. The pot was still standing upright but the plant had leaned over the side of the pot, grown along the ground till it found something to grow up and lean on. It looked very healthy too and he was waiting for a nice flower spike. I think if he leaves it where it is the pups will grow along the length of trunk on the ground and he will have a mass clump of them. if they all flower simultaniously for him it will be spectacular. I'll get a pic next time we are up there.

pics are of my sons latest additions to his family. they are little bantam chicks that hop on his hand in the cage and he carries them out to scrounge in the gardens among the broms. the white one is called Hope (as Paul says to the girls "hope it's not a rooster or it will feel the axe") and the brown one is called Mia. they are already used to the girls giving them cuddles but they don't willingly hop on their hands yet. Paul is definately their surrogate daddy. Emily loved cuddling them. Pity her dog Indy wouldn't kill anything like this cause she would love to have one.

Night again.
Wendy

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 22, 2012
11:48 AM

Post #9364780

good morning all, two more sleeps!
Nev, glad to hear you are feeling better. The length of your posts is better also! I like your little pee wee and he's lived up to his name on the table!
I have got a couple of Neoregelia 'Fireball' in the garden with the yellow minis, but they don't seem to do as well. Now that I have plenty to play with, I can always try a few more. I also thought about putting some Aechmea gracilis small form up there, as a bit of green also looks good as a contrast, and I have a tray of them.
Hubbys fishing trip resulted in a few being sea sick, no fish, and, no doubt, a bit of a hangover later this morning. I have absolutely no symathy!
Your shade houses are looking very colourful,and the Vrieseas look to be a good size. I hope you get alot acheived while everyone is out Xmas shopping. I have done all mine, I think, although it looks like we might have another two ring ins on the day, so might have to dig out extra everything.
Congratulations grandaddy Ian! How convenient for your daughter to have your grandson there for your arrival. I hope you have a great Xmas and find some brom treasures while you are away.
Trish, I am glad you finally have some time off. You won't know yourself after a bit of a relax and a few sleep ins!
Out of interest, what was the Ebay seller name on that Black on yellow Vriesea. You can Dmail me if you don't want to broadcast it here. Just curious.
I'm glad you and Joe enjoyed seeing Onc. 'Sharry Baby' I bought it at the markets quite sometime ago, and have split it a couple of times and given bits as trades, and it keeps on flowering every year. The next orchid to flower is Epidendrum fragrans. I am checking the buds ever day, and hope nothing eats them before they flower. As the name suggests, it is fragrant, nd it will come inside while it is flowering, to waft its scent around the living room.
Your random garden shots are very colourful, and as you say, the temp shades are working well.
Shirley, The house work won here, but I am glad its done, although a vacuum on monday afternoon will be needed, as I have tracked in grass clipping and bits of leaf matter, as happens after a day in the garden. I cleaned up bark in the brom gardens and mowed and edged the grass and blower vacc'd the veranda as well as a few other odd jobs around the place. I am going to dead head Agapanthas today, and prune a few bits here and there, nothing drastic.
No rain yesterday, and feels warm here already, so I'll get out and do an early water.
I figured the Alan freeman hybrid must have been slightly different to the pic. There seems to be alot of purple shade in alot of his hybrids. I have a few that I inherited from Leisa, with bromagic labels on them, and every now and then one will stand out and say 'look at me'.
With your V. ospinae, I too heard that it likes a bit more moisture. maybe keep it in a potting mix, rather than a brom/orchid mix, so that it retains more moisture in the soil? I find that works with alot of guzmanias too.
Wendy, just a thought, your Billbergia seedlings might have what is called 'Damping Off' It sometimes happens with annual seedlings. Although, I just googled it, and according to wikipedia, it usually due to COOL wet conditions, so your thoughts on too much heat might be more on the money. What a shame.
I hope Max stays well till Xmas is well over, and hope he gets some relief so you can have a better nights sleep. My hubys snoring aftera big drink will leave me a bit tired today too! heh heh
Anyway, lets see what I shot with the camera yesterday.
Photo one is some Till scheidiana seeds wiped onto a casaurina tree, sprayed with water and I wrapped some fishing line around the trunk a couple of times to keep at least some of them attached.
Photo two is Neo. 'Furnace' in the garden, a slightly larger mini
Photo three is some N. 'Satsuma' seedlings in the garden. All just slightly different in colour or shape, or size.
Photo four is a portion of Leisas garden, just to show Trish I don't always plant in rows, heh heh. Its actually getting cowded and hard to step between to get the debris out.
Photo five is the same plants from a different angle. And I have just noticed there is a smudge on my camera lens! Must clean that now.
Sue

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 22, 2012
1:08 PM

Post #9364827

Hi everyone – Not much to report today, all I did yesterday was a good deep watering of everything, a bit of cleaning up and a couple of re-potting jobs I had been putting off, nothing really interesting, but I do enjoy watering as that's when you get a chance to really have a good look at each plant.

Ian – Pleased to hear you reached you destination safely, that seems to be a bonus these days with all of the "idiots" on the road doing stupid things and causing accidents in which the innocent person usually gets injured or killed.

Congratulations all round on the birth of your new grandson. How do you like being a Grand Dad? I can highly recommend it as the grand kids can give you hours of pleasure. Now all you have to do is teach him how to grow brom's.

Trish – Just to clarify what I said about postage costs; it was only the parcels under 500gm that they don't take into account the box size. Over this they do, and feed this info into the computer and it spits out the results for all the different types of postage. It's quite easy to work out your own postage costs as there is an Australia Post site on which you can calculate the cost as long as you have the weight and box size, and your post code and the post code to where you are sending the parcel. Check it out at this site: http://auspost.com.au/personal/parcel-dimensions.html

In your first pic, what is the name of the largish pink/red Neo at bottom right of the pic?

Shirley – It's always a good idea to knock a plant out of the pot and examine the roots if it doesn't seem happy. The three most common problems in my opinion are being “too wet”, being “too dry” and “Root Mealy Bug”. The treatment for the first two is simple, re-pot your plant into fresh mix and adjust your watering accordingly.

As for the “Root Mealy Bug”, if you practice good hygiene when handling plants and re-potting, it's unlikely you have ever had problems with it. You may however have imported it with a plant you bought or swapped. Also another common source of contamination is using second-hand, unwashed re-cycled pots. If because of financial constraints you have to use second-hand pots, make sure they are thoroughly cleaned and washed and allowed to air dry in the sun to kill any possible bugs or disease. When I grew orchids I always cleaned any second-hand pots with a solution of Formalin, but I don't think you can buy it any more, but there are alternatives and as Sue has studied horticulture and worked in the horticultural area, no doubt she can better advise about this than I.

Root Mealy Bug can be seen either on the roots, the mix or the inside of the pot and looks like a fine white looking sort of web which is hard to explain but is obvious in Pic.1. The actual “Root Mealy Bugs” themselves are hard to see as they are quite small and often concealed within the root ball (See Pic.2). For more in-depth info see: http://ipm.ncsu.edu/AG136/mealy4.html

I have had excellent results by treating infected plants in the following manner. I remove as much of the potting mix from around the roots that I can and then give the roots a good hosing (away from other plants). I allow the plant to dry and then I then drench the whole plant in a bucket of Confidor mixed according to instructions for Mealy Bug. Confidor is available at most nurseries and other places that sell plants and plant accessories (I get mine from Bunnings which is just ten minutes away). I allow the plant to air dry for a couple of days and then, using a new pot I re-pot it into fresh mix. I never re-use the old pot or potting mix as it can contain eggs of the Root Mealy Bug; far better to sacrifice the 5c pot and toss it in the bin instead. I prefer to follow the old saying of “prevention is better than cure”; that's why every plant I buy/swap, I always knock it out of the pot, clean away any potting mix, examine it and if free of pests or disease, re-pot in my own mix. This has two benefits; firstly you then know the plant is clean and secondly, all of your similar plants are in the same mix and therefore require the same watering programme.

What sort of conditions are you growing your Vr. Ospinae in? I have a couple, one in the garden beneath 50% green shade cloth (but among other plants) and the other plant is in my Vriesea shade house also under 50% green shade cloth, but on the southern side of the house which is a pretty shady area. They both seem to like these conditions and I find it grows quite easily. Can anyone else out there in “D.G. Land “ tell us under what conditions they grow their Vr Ospinae plants?

I think if you call your little black brom Neo 'Little Black' you could confuse things a bit as there is already a 'Little Black' registered on the BCR and you aren't certain that's what your plant is. http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=5435#5435
There is a chance this could be what it is, but there is also a chance this isn't what it is. To be on the safe side you can call it Neo. ?'Little Black'. By adding the “?” you aren't deceiving anyone who may buy/swap it in the future.

I love the two pic's you've posted and I think they were two of the plants I had on my wish list (that I can't find) so could you please put my name on both of them for me please?

Wendy – I have found with all of the Billbergia seedling I have grown, they seem to grow so fast that they all lay over. It could be that my conditions aren't giving enough light or maybe it's the little bit of fertiliser I'm giving to push them along a bit. The leaves have been so long on some that I've had to trim them back by half when re-potting. This doesn't seem to set them back at all and as soon as they are in an area with better light the new leaves just grow normally and these old “baby leaves” just die away as the new leaves take over.

I have found that the Aechmea emmerichiae seedlings I grew are quite variable in foliage colour. That one of yours looks quite nice with the golden coloured leaves. I have a couple like this as well as a couple with more brownish/gold colouring. I don't know where I'm going to put them as I just don't have the space, that's why I gave most of the others away. Hopefully those people who got some of these will get some plants with nice coloured foliage as well.

It's quite possible you may get some variegated plants from any of the seed I sent that has 'Painted Lady' (sport) as one of the parents as this plant is a known “transmitter”.

That's it from me today, Pic's 1 and 2 are Root Mealy Bug.

All the best, Nev.


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 22, 2012
3:17 PM

Post #9364893

Here I am back again – to finish what I should have finished earlier.

I often get confused these days but this morning I'm more confused than ever. Before I posted I opened up DG in a new tab to make sure there were no new posts before I posted mine and when there was nothing I hit the "send" button. At the same time the message came up to say someone else had posted...bugger!! ... I'll bet you can't guess who; yes it was Sue which is what I was expecting and that's why I checked before I sent my post.

What puzzles me is that when I check thedate/ time I sent mine it was December 22, 2012 02:08 PM and when I looked at Sue's it was December 22, 2012 12:48 PM

Now I could understand it if there were only a couple of minutes difference, but almost two hours... how do you do it Sue?

I was going to ask the question about who the Ebay seller's name was that sold the Black on Yellow Vriesea also, and I think I know.

Sue were the Satsuma seedlings from a crossing you did or were they from wild pollinated seed?

Gotta go – The CEO's getting restless as we're off to a family Christmas BBQ/Party.

All the best. Nev.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 23, 2012
1:03 AM

Post #9365205

Theres a seller on ebay with alot of Vriesea hieroglyphica pups for sale if anyone want to buy one.

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ianperry

December 23, 2012
2:11 AM

Post #9365214

Hi all, I am bored and away from home. I have too much time to rest and relax and read. I have checked mu daughters plants and shown her a few problems and how to solve them..She has 1 that reminds me of a cross between a Bil and a nudicaulis. I will eventually get a pic of it on here.I expect to be busy tomorrow with Xmas preparations so that will give me something to do.
Merry Xmas all.
Ian
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 23, 2012
10:49 AM

Post #9365429

Hi everyone – Santa will be here tonight if you've all been good boys and girls, and if you've been really good he may even bring you a nice brom or some brom growing accessories.

A big "Cherrio" to anyone on the sick list or anyone who just hasn't had the time to post recently and hopefully we'll see more of you all in the New Year.

Ian – It sounds like your already getting bored with your relaxing break. It seems you're like me and need to be doing something all the time. Even yesterday although we had a nice day with family and friends, during the quiet periods after lunch my mind was still wandering back to the garden and thinking how I should prioritise things and what I should do next.

Nice of you to think of us all and mention the Vr. Hieroglyphica pups, I'm sure we all appreciate your thoughtfulness and there will be some who will contact you for further details.

It looks like there's no one to talk to today so to fill up a bit of space I'll fill in with a short article I once wrote for our Bromeliad Society Newsletter.

~ HOW I IMPROVED MY GUZMANIAS ~
Neville Wood – 2009

Up until recently I had about six or more Guzmanias in my shade house which I had accumulated over a few years having previously purchased them in flower at markets. I really never saw myself as a Guzmania grower, but thought of them more as a substitute for a bunch of flowers to brighten up the inside of the home. When you consider that a reasonable bunch of flowers costs a minimum of $30 these days, and any I’ve ever bought seldom lasted more than a week; a flowering Guzmania which could be bought for around $20 and often lasted in flower for 2-3 months was a much better financial proposition, don’t you think?

After they had finished flowering and the old inflorescence was removed, they were relegated to an unused corner of the shade-house and allowed to just do “their own thing”, as I really didn’t have much interest in them as a plant. They were never fed and only watered when I watered the other brom’s. They continued to grow and occasionally would put up a pretty ordinary looking inflorescence which was never anywhere near as spectacular as the one on the original plant had been. I simply put this down to a couple of things, either I just couldn’t grow them or my conditions didn’t suit them or maybe it was a combination of both.

A couple of years back I read an article in (I think) a back issue of a BSI journal. It was by a Guzmania grower in the US and gave details of his methods of culture and included a picture of him standing up to his waist in the centre of a group of beautiful flowering Guzmanias.  These beautiful plants were the best looking Guzmanias I had ever seen with their healthy green leaves and beautiful large inflorescences. What he said was basically, never let them dry out completely, grow them in lower light to Neo's, Aechmeas etc, give them a warm environment with good air circulation, and the bit that really caught my attention, FEED THEM AS OFTEN AS YOU FEED YOURSELF! This man only grew Guzmanias and was known by local growers as somewhat of an expert with a nickname of "Mr. Guzmania".

Until I read that article I treated my few Guzmanias in a similar manner to my Neo's. The plants never really looked "happy" and I only ever got the occasional inflorescence of average quality. My success was such that I threatened to toss the plants out if they didn't perform better the following year. The plants were moved to another area on the southern, shadier side of our house beneath 75% green shade cloth. This area is in a higher part of the yard and is protected from winds by the house on the north side and re-cycled charcoal coloured Laser Light on the walls of the other three sides. Because it is so protected from the elements and is a bit higher than their previous location it also appears to be slightly warmer in the cold weather.

After being moved to their new location, all were re-potted using a mix of six parts of Brunnings Cymbidium Orchid Mix to one part of fine Coco Peat. During re-potting when the pot was about 3/4 full of mix, I added Osmocote at the rate of 1 level teaspoon to a 5" pot, plus some Blood and Bone at the same rate, making sure the fertilizers didn’t directly contact any part of the plants. Sufficient mix was then added to come up almost to the top of the pot and they were then thoroughly watered until the water flowed from the bottom of the pot.

I foliar fed these plants each two weeks, alternating between Manutec and Phostrogen right throughout the whole year along with a monthly application of Seasol. The results were amazing; the plants picked up and grew beautifully and this year I had a better show of flowers than I could have ever imagined. There's only two things which could have caused such a dramatic improvement; and that was the new location with extra fertilizer or the threat to "bin them" if they didn't perform better. As I don't think the Guzmanias heard the threat “to bin them”, I think it had to be the change of location and the increase in feeding.

I'll finish with a nice pic of some Guzmanias which was taken in the Noong Nooch Tropical Botanical Gardens in Thailand by my “Brom Friend” Chanin Thurot.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 23, 2012
11:08 AM

Post #9365436

Good morning. one more sleep.
Nev, do you have the time set right on your DG profile, because I post around 6-7am each morning, so your 12.48pm seems very strange indeed.
Root mealy bug is quite common, and I have found it from time to time. Its always a good idea to check each new plant you buy, by tipping it out of the pot and looking for the same symptoms as in Nevs photo. I use a bucket of Malathion, made up to the directions on the label (wear chemical gloves and a mask) and dunk the whole pot in for a few hours. Then allow to drain. I then take the plant out of the pot and allow the soil and roots to dry out. Toss the pot! better safe than sorry. When washing recycled pots from an unknown source, have a bucket of water and bleach handy and dunk the pots for a few minutes after washing. Thank goodness Mealy bug doesn't occur that often, becuase its a pain having to use Chemicals.
Nev, the N. 'Satsuma' seedlings were a wild cross. I did try crossing with N. 'Perfecta' but lost track of the pods, and almost all had set seed, so pretty sure it was a selfer.
Thanks for the article on Guzmanias. There hasn't been alot to read from yesterday. I refreshed my page this morning, and there was your post, so you beat me to it.
Bree, is that seller on Ebay? Will have to go see what prices they have
Poor Ian, having a hard time relaxing without anything to do. I get that way too, and get bored very easily if I am not busy. Enjoy yourself today and tomorrow.
I watered everything yesterdy also, Nev, as the storms and thunder just keep coming and going,daily, with no rain. Boy has it been humid!
photo one is a baby frog in the pond
Photo two is the same frog, on my finger so you can see how tiny it is.
Photo three is an adult frog of the same species, and is the usual size (dwarf eastern tree frog)
Photo four is Billbergia 'Fred gerber' coming into flower
Photo five is V. ospinae leaning against a tree trunk. Its in a 150mm pot and has stacks of pups.

Well, I'm off to do a small garden job this morning, so fingers crossed the traffic is light and the humidity low.
Sue


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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 23, 2012
7:12 PM

Post #9365706

Hi Everyone!

Wishing you all a Very Merry Christmas and Happy and prosperous New Year for 2013! What a year it’s been when you reflect on all that’s happened over the year.

Well Santa came early and granted our wishes for some rain and it rained most of the day and night yesterday and we woke up this morning to more beautiful rain and it’s now midday and it’s still raining. The frogs are singing non-stop and I went for a walk in the garden this morning and little green frogs (like the pics that Sue posted yesterday) are hopping around everywhere and I had them jumping on my legs like they were hitching a ride around the garden (like TAXI) lol, even the Girls had them on their backs and I had to take a couple off them before they came back through the doggy door to come back inside (too cute). Anyway the weather man said it should be find tomorrow with no rain and I am disappointed really to hear this as I’m luving this rain.

Hi Shirley thanks so very pleased that I have Christmas off as it has been really nice having time to do the things you never have time to do normally, like the bigger jobs that consume your entire weekend and that are exhausting to do. The house is sparkling clean which really pleases me, now I just need to keep it that way with all the visitors.

Shirley by all means it would be better to plant your Gingers in a semi-shady spot, mine get morning sun and then after that they are in semi-shade for the rest of the day. You can also keep then in pots but they need to be very large pots and make sure the potting mix does not dry out and keep them well fed. I prefer them in the garden because I can mulch them heavily and feed them on a regular basis and they have room to grow properly.

Shirley thanks for your info regarding postage, I will definitely keep this in mind. I appreciate you also putting my name down for that cute ‘Little Black’ Neo of yours its so lovely.

Shirley in response to a couple of your questions, the Neo directly behind Neo ‘De Rolf’ in my Pic 1 posted on 22/12 is Neo ‘Painted Lady x Concentrica, she is a medium grower and I have her normally under 70% shade cloth. Pic 3 Right to the centre is Neo ‘Margaret’; she is gorgeous and grows beautiful long leaves. The lovely pale Neo in Pic 5 is Neo ‘Rose Blush’. Yes by all means I will write you down for a pup of Neo ‘Margaret’ and Neo ‘Rose Blush’.

Shirley the Neo pics you posted on 22/12 of Neo Purple Cloud?, and Neo Hatsumi? They are both gorgeous. Hatsumi reminds me of Neo ‘Red River’?

Hi Sue in relation to Vr. ‘Yellow on Black’ no worries I will check my brom data base and see if I noted the sellers details as I could not find in my EBay history as we must have deleted and I will let you know. I don’t know if it will be in my brom data base though because the first one I had created was lost when our hard drive crashed along with my Vanda pictures (sad face), but since then I created a new brom data base so hopefully the info will be there?

Sue we would luv to see a pic of your orchid Epidendrum fragrans when it flowers.

Sue really liked all the pics you posted of all your broms not planted in rows (lol) mind you I also like it when you do plant in rows because you certainly have the room and enough of the same types of broms to do so. Maybe one day I will plant in rows, but for now a lot of mine are only mostly one of everything so I have no choice but to mix them up lol. I have a friend who has an English style garden and she plants in rows, her garden is not that big but never the less her garden looks beautiful. I especially liked your Pic 2 of Neo ‘Furnace’, really pretty large mini that really stand out in your garden.

Hi Nev thanks for the additional info regarding postage when it comes to parcels, really appreciate the advice and the link you provided.

Nev in answer to your question about Pic 1 I posted on 22/12, the brom is called Neo ‘Hula Girl’, and she is so full of colour, one of my many favourites.

Nev I will check and get back to you and Sue regarding who the seller was for Vr. Yellow on Black and see if you and I come up with the same sellers name Nev. Liz seems to ring a bell for me but I will have to check to be sure.

Nev thanks for sharing that great article you wrote on Guzmanias I found your article a very interesting read, I only have a couple of Guzmanias in the nursery and they get fed when Joe feeds the Orchids and they seem to luv that so it makes perfect sense what you say, and Joe alternates the fertiliser he gives his Orchids so they get a mixture on a fortnightly basis and thrive well from this.

Hi Bree what have you been up too? Thanks for letting us know about King of the Vr. Pups for sale on EBay, I have a few of these already but you can never have enough of them as they are gorgeous. Sooner or later though we all run out of room and have to be selective on how many we keep of everything including the same things.

Anyway you probably will not hear from me for the next couple of days with all the festivities. Today I am cooking again more ducks (back by popular demand), I have 3 x in the oven at the moment cooking and the smell is divine and our mouths are watering lol.

We just had the kids next door bring us over presents which was lovely and luckily Joe prepared many boxes of treats for all the kids who will be here for Xmas, but he also made extra boxes which came in handy so we gave them one each and their faces lit up like mini Xmas trees lol which really warmed our hearts. It’s all about the kids this time of year.

Hi to anyone else looking in and anyone on the Sick List, we miss hearing from you all.

Take care and Happy Gardening Everyone! Look forward to speaking with you all real soon!

Trish

Pic 1, 2, 3 & 4 More random Pics from the garden. Pic 5 Neo 'De Rolf' that is getting bigger - see my feet:

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

December 23, 2012
9:17 PM

Post #9365755

A very Happy Christmas and a happy and safe New Year to everyone...

I hope next year to post a bit more so you can all discourage my gathering of too many broms...lol
Jean.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 23, 2012
9:22 PM

Post #9365757

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!
sue- yes on ebay, woops sorry i forgot to mention that, i went back and fixed that. I bought a larger size one that was on there but might not be anymore of that size left now, alot of smaller ones though and there not to expensive.
I also bought a Vriesea Gigantea Seideliana Nova and another Pimiento but i wont get them until after the new year.
Santa comes tonight!
Decora mum and pup.

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

December 24, 2012
3:19 AM

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Merry Christmas to everyone. Hope you and your families have a relaxing and enjoyable day and Santa brings some brommy goodies for your stockings. Catch up soon. Jen

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 24, 2012
6:36 AM

Post #9365935

Hi everyone, gee I missed one night and I have so much catching up to do tonight.

Wendy, sorry to hear that Max is not well again and also that you lost so many of your billbergia seedlings. When I checked my vriesea seedlings today (tiny little things that they are) there seemed to be fewer of them than there were a couple of days ago. The neo seedlings are coming along really well though. Can’t wait for them to get to that ‘magic age’ you mention when they take off. I love the colour of your ae emmerichiae. Cute chickens too.

Sue, sounds like you are all ready for Xmas. I was surprised to read you are dead heading your agapanthus as mine are only just beginning to bloom. Your neo furnace is lovely, such vibrant colour. Gee, I wish my vr Ospinae looked like yours.

Nev, I have my vr Ospinae in the shade house under 70% shadecloth and I have had it sitting in a saucer of water for the past couple of weeks. I have added your name to the list for pups from neos Hatsumi and Purple Cloud, both are in flower. Hope you enjoyed your family Christmas party.

I found your article on guzmanias very interesting, I might have to ramp up the fertilizing with mine. I will add a couple of pics of a guzmania I purchased back in June. I don’t have a name for it but it is a large plant with a large flower. First pic was taken in June, the second in September, unfortunately I haven’t taken one recently but the flower is still hanging on, not looking as good now (6 months later) but still quite pretty. It’s a lovely plant, from memory I paid $8.00 for it at the market.

Trish, glad to hear you got some rain and sounds like lots of it. Thanks for adding my name to your ‘pup’ list for neos Margaret and Rose Blush, such lovely broms. Any your neo de Rolf is stunning too.

Jean, it will be good to hear more from you next year but I don’t think anyone here is going to discourage your brom collecting … it’s such an enjoyable addiction.

Hi also to Bree, Ian and Jen and anyone else looking in from time to time.

I hope everyone has a very merry and a safe Christmas.

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 24, 2012
11:54 AM

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Hi to anyone who's watching in this morning – it's still early so I thought I'd just write a few lines before the family festivities of the day commence.

I was fortunate enough to get an early Christmas present last night. It started about 5.00 pm with distant rumblings of thunder which increased in intensity until we were having a good “old fashioned” thunder storm of the kind I remember as a child. As the rain started the thunder and lightening slowly abated but the good heavy rain continued through most of the night. All I can say is I hope Santa Claus remembered to bring a rain coat and umbrella.

Sue – The times I quoted in my previous post were the times shown on the left of the screen where my name appears which I think are American times anyway. What I was questioning was that we both usually post around 7.00am but that particular post showed times two hours apart. You ask, “do you have the time set right on your DG profile”, I've never set that time, in fact I didn't know I was supposed to, nor do I know how. I think that particular post was maybe a “one off” because yesterday the times shown were 11.49am and 12.08pm, which were a bit closer to the mark.

Thanks for adding your knowledge to the few lines I wrote about Root Mealy Bug as it was a subject I haven't had a lot of practical experience with having only seen it twice on some plants I bought in (both from the same grower).

I like your little frogs, I have some sort in my Frog Pond down the back but I don't know what sort they are as I've never seen them. They just make a rather dull noise which couldn't be considered as a “croak”, but they were all singing in unison this morning after the rain had stopped.

I like the dark foliage on your Bill. 'Fred Gerber' it really contrasts nicely with the bright red bracts, and the pic of your nice big plant of Vr. Ospinae shows that it grows well in good light as well as low light.

Trish – It's good to hear you've had some good rain at last which obviously your frogs liked as much as you did. Doesn't everything look great after being freshened up with some rain, far better than after just a normal water with a hose, it must be the “magic” in the rain that does it.

I have to agree with what you say about Christmas “being all about kids”, I think seeing the happy smile on the face of a child when they open a present, is in itself a Christmas present for us adults.

Jean – You say, “so you can all discourage my gathering of too many broms”, I really think you are what's known as a “Closet Brom Addict” i.e. one who keeps saying they don't want any more brom's yet won't admit they are really hooked by these great plants and really would like more' anyway, we look forward to hearing from you more during the new year.

Breeindy – Thanks for the Christmas wishes. I like the colours in your Neo.'Decora' (mum) so subtle; I have a plant in the front garden which was from one of my first ever crosses which is a similar colour but unfortunately nothing in the shape department.

Jen – Thanks for the Christmas wishes and I'm sure we all look forward to hearing more from you in the New Year.

Shirley – Regarding your plant of Vr Ospinae, I think it's time to take it out of the saucer of water and knock it out of the pot and inspect what's going on below the surface of the potting mix. I would then re-pot it in some fresh potting mix and see what happens then. It sounds like there's something going on that it doesn't like and as they say, “a change is as good as a holiday”.

As for standing these plants in a saucer of water, well that was a tip from Jack Koning (for those who don't know of him, he's an expert in the Vriesea area). It's a tip which I found worked well for me, but then as I've said many times previously, everyone's conditions are different and what works for me won't necessarily work for you.

I love the brilliant colours in your Guzmania; do you know the name of it or is it another of the many thousands of “commercial hybrids” that are being sold around the country with just a generic name tag stating that it's a “Bromeliad”.

I'll finish with a few random pic's this morning, nothing new as I haven't taken any new ones yet. Pic 1 is of a little Neo Strawberry cup just to show these plants will grow OK when mounted on a piece of bush timber. Pic.2 is the beautiful albiet slow growing Ae Fasciata Purpurea Pic.3 is what happens when you don't keep your garden brom's thinned out and they get away from you and Pic's 4 and 5 are of the pup growing area in my shade house.

All the best, Nev.


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ctmorris
barmera
Australia

December 24, 2012
2:27 PM

Post #9366207

Merry Christmas everyone. I hope everyone has a wonderful day. Colleen
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 24, 2012
3:53 PM

Post #9366241

Merry Xmas everyone. Thats it from me today, but I will be back tomorrow! Have a good day all.
Hugs
Sue
ianperry

December 24, 2012
5:17 PM

Post #9366282

Merry Christmas to you all.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 a banded unknown Ae
Pic 2 Class C17 loco as a blast fom the past
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 25, 2012
11:22 AM

Post #9366800

Hi All – I trust you all had a nice Christmas with family and friends and that Santa was very kind to you all. At long last Santa has finally got the message and all (except) one of my presents were Bunnings vouchers so I can now move ahead with some of these renovations that have been on the planning drawing board for a while.

Colleen – Thanks for the Christmas wishes and I hope you and the boys had a great day and Santa brought you lots of presents.

Sue – Thanks for your Xmas wishes also and I'm gong all out to post before you today.

Ian – I would have been very interested to see the pic's you posted yesterday, however D.G. must have stolen them as they didn't reach this far

Seeing there is no one here to talk to this morning I'll see what I can dig up out of old files to post.

BACK TO BASICS WITH “URN” TYPE BROM’S
Neville Wood - 2009
 
Firstly what is an “urn” type of bromeliad? Loosely speaking it is any brom whose leaves form a sort of a “vase” or “urn” which can hold water. Plants such as Aechmeas, Neoregelias, Nidulariums and Vrieseas being good examples which are commonly grown by us all.
 
When we acquire our first “urn” type bromeliad it is usually already potted up and may or may not be in flower, and like all other plants we need to find out a little about its basic requirements. I have on various occasions overheard various descriptions of the cultural requirements for these plants, often at the markets from the sellers or from other establishments and more often than not the advice given is mostly incorrect.
 
One of the most common mistakes that the new grower is told is to stand the plant in a saucer of water so it doesn’t need to be watered too often and just make sure that the centre has water in it at all time. Consequently after a few weeks the plant begins to look sick ** and gradually deteriorates to the stage where it’s almost dead. At this stage the new grower will sometimes seek advice from someone who grows these plants. This all usually leads to the plant being taken out of the pot only to reveal it has been growing in nothing more than a pot of mix the bottom half of which is mud; in other words the mix was “water-logged” and has “wet feet”.
 
To prevent this from happening, I would suggest to all new growers to start with the basics;   Understand the basic requirements of the particular plant genus you want to grow. The basic requirements of the plant can easily be worked out firstly from how similar plants grow in their natural habitat. This is usually on trees, on rocks or on the ground. The one common denominator here is in the fact that no matter which form of growth these plants take, they all have good drainage.
 
The other fact worth noting is that “in habitat” these plants always have adequate space between them allowing for good air circulation, if they do become crowded for some reason, the weakest plants die which then creates growing room for the strong ones, i.e. the survival of the fittest.
 
Likewise the plants growing on rocks and on trees have constant access to good air circulation which is necessary to prevent attack by various types of fungus which cause rot.
 
So based on this we can gather that the two main basic requirements of these plants if they are in a pots, are firstly a free draining mix and secondly, adequate space between plants to allow for good air movement.
 
Next we have to look at watering and again we can be guided by what happens in their natural habitat. First we need to realise that plants in the wild are mainly reliant on rain and dew for their moisture requirements. The infrequent amounts of moisture coupled with the free drainage and good air movement certainly doesn’t allow for any plant to become waterlogged and the only way they could get an abundance of water is due to excessive prolonged rain which will accumulate in the vases of the urn type plants.
 
Even in these cases, nature has an inbuilt safety mechanism whereby when the excessive amount of water becomes just too heavy, it causes the plant to either tip over causing it to empty, or in extreme cases the sheer weight will pull its roots from whatever it is attached to.
 
Whatever the cause, the plant will not be waterlogged. Bearing all of this in mind the message here is that these plants don’t like to be overwatered and it’s a generally accepted fact that many more plants are lost from overwatering than under watering.
 
Now to just recap on what we have established already:
 
Brom’s don’t like to be waterlogged...Free draining mix
Brom’s must have good drainage ...Free draining mix
Brom’s must have adequate space to grow
Brom’s need good air circulation, plant and roots ...Free draining mix
 
Now what about fertilizer? Again what happens in nature?
 
When these urn shaped plants are growing naturally, they are exposed to debris and leaf litter falling into the vase as well as the occasional bird, frog or small animal droppings. This mixes with the water already in the vase and makes (for want of a better description) a “soup”, this mixture then starts to rot and break down all of the components and ultimately it becomes a weak liquid fertilizer which as the urn receives more water, becomes more diluted.
 
This is a continuing cycle and consequently the plant is continually getting minute quantities of dilute fertilizer and it’s probably from this very fact that the old nurseryman’s adage to “fertilize plants little and often” was born.
 
The following is a summary of the basic needs required to grow urn shaped brom’s in a domestic environment based on what occurs in nature:
 
1.      They need a free draining potting mix to afford good drainage and air circulation around the roots; they don’t like overcrowding so they need adequate space to grow and they also only need a minimum of water.
 
2.      In my case where I am one street back from the ocean and my climate could be classed loosely as a “maritime climate”. I only water once every two weeks in the summer and monthly in the winter. The exception being on very hot days where I give plants a light misting in the late afternoon.
 
3.      As far as nutrition goes they need the fertilizer in a very dilute form and fed regularly, and if the instructions say mix 1 teaspoon of fertilizer per litre of water and apply monthly, you would be better off mixing ¼ Teaspoon per litre and feeding weekly.
 
These are good safe principles from which to start your journey of growing urn type bromeliads.

** The exception to this is Vriesea 'Ospinae' which often grows better when standing in a saucer of water.

Now to find a few pic's Pic.1 is Neo. 'Fairy Dust', Pic.2 is Neo. 'Camelot', Pic.3 is Neo. 'Carolinae' x 'Concentrica', Pic. 4 is Neo. 'Phyllis O.T.' and Pic.5 is Neo. 'Burgundy Moss'

All the best Nev. 

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podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 25, 2012
2:23 PM

Post #9366922

Merry Christmas (belated to you all)

Woo Hoo ~ thank you for that wonderful Christmas present Nev! Your articles are always a wealth of information to a novice like myself. I wanted to tell you it is often appreciated.

Still following everyones posts and photos and enjoy it a lot, even when I don't have anything to offer. Looking forward to staying with you through the new year ahead.

1 ~ blooms beginning on the Cryptbergia Red Burst
2 ~ Aechmea nudicaulis var. rubra
3 ~ is a two for Aechmea Black chantinii & Aechmea recurvata var. benrathii both sharing the same home.

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brombirdie
Brisbane
Australia

December 25, 2012
7:17 PM

Post #9367105

Good morning everyone. Hope you had a relaxing Christmas Day and didn't eat too much. Like you Nev, I scored a Bunnings voucher from Santa and can't wait to restock my potting supplies. We even got a bit of rain last night so the broms are looking pretty fresh and happy this morning. Great to hear from you, Podster. It's lovely when brom friends from other parts of the world drop in.
Nev I love your photos, especially Fairy Dust and Burgandy Moss. Perhaps we could arrange a swap sometime. I enjoyed your article about 'Back to Basics'. It's always good to be reminded of growing tips and reassuring to know you're doing some things right. You write very clearly and logically. Great skill to have.
Ian, congratulations on becoming a grandad.Hope you're getting enough sleep and finding things to keep you busy. I'm still waiting for your promised photos. Shirley, that's a beautiful Guzmania. Have to agree with you about Vr. ospinae. Mine always looks skinny and half dead so have stuck it in a corner and ignored it. They look great in a clump so maybe I'd better get it out and make a bit more of an effort. Hope you got a bit of rain too.
Bree, I like the tonings in purple Neos. Very pretty. I f you like Vr seideliana Nova, Wendy gave me some seed of Pink Nova so we both have at least 100 seedlings. Perhaps when they get a bit bigger you might be interested in some.
Trish, hope you and hubby are enjoying your well-earned break. Your broms always look so big and healthy. What do you feed them with? You've obviously created a position that they just love.
Very cute baby frog Sue. Bet your garden is enjoying all the rain. Leisa's Garden is looking very lush and colourful. You are right about Wittrockia superba. It gets quite big and I bought it from Peter last trip.
Wendy, sounds like you've been very busy cooking gingerbread houses. Hope you kept me a bit. Also hope Max is still okay. Is it time for our brom crawl yet? Look forward to seeing your new shadecloth.
Hello to Jean and Colleen.
Have been playing with my Vrieseas this morning so the photos are ones I got from Richard Harper as seedlings. They're starting to show some nice colour as they mature. Catch you soon, Jen

1. Ubeaut x Illusion 2. Milky Way F2 3. Uluru Sunset x Fantasy 4. fenestralis x Speckles 5. platynema variegata x Milky Way.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 26, 2012
4:58 AM

Post #9367250

Hi all, we had a beautiful, clear sunny day here yesterday and then rain overnight to top it off perfectly. Another nice day here again today.

Nev, I don’t know the name of the guzmania in my pics of 25 Dec as I purchased it unnamed at the market. I took another photo of it today, the flower now more than 6 months old and still looking pretty good. Just love your neo Fairy Dust … so pretty and also your neo Burgundy Moss. Could you put me down for a pup from both of these please, if and when you have spares. Your neo Camelot is so different to mine … maybe we could trade Camelot pups sometime too.

Kristi, good to hear from you … nice pics.

Jen, we had a lovely Xmas day but hardly relaxing and it feels like we haven’t stopped eating since Xmas eve. We had a post Xmas lunch today with neighbours so still overindulging. I am hoping things start to return to normal tomorrow ... till we celebrate the New year anyway.

Love the vrieseas in your pics Jen, all of them, but I think Vr Milky Way F2 takes first prize.

Pic 1 is my unnamed guzmania which has been in bloom for more than 6 months, pic 2 is a little snake taking a nap, curled up in the security screen (on the outside) of one of our dining room windows tonight

Bye for now, Shirley









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perke_patch

December 26, 2012
6:37 AM

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Merry Christmas everyone belatedly. WHat a hectic few days hence the no show on here. we had the girls for 2 days so mum and dad could build the santa presents. We took them down to the shopping centre to see santa. I accidentally let slip to Emily that Pa went to school with that Santa. As soon as it came out I could have bitten my tongue off but Emily came back with "did Pa go to Santa school?" Anyway Santa was very quick and said that he was a boy once too and went to school so yes he did go to school with Pa but Pa failed and they picked him to be Santa when he was all grown up. He jockingly told Pa to sit on his knee as Rylee wasn't keen to sit there. So we got a pic of Pa on Santa's knee and Rylee on Pa's knee. Anyway the shops were far too busy for us then so we came home. The girls were picked up from here about 3.30 on Christmas eve to go to nanna and poppies house at Dayboro where they were sleeping the night. As soon as the girls were gone we had to race to the shops to grab our food stuff for Christmas day. Then we had to go next door for Christmas drinks with a few of our neighbours. I came home about 7pm to do the cooking then fell into bed. So CHristmas morning I had to do all those things I didn't get around to doing the day before. house to be cleaned, tables to be set up, even a couple of presents to be wrapped and food to be cut up. As soon as the kids left after lunch we had to rush out to Johnny's sisters to catch up with them for drinks. Got home about 7.30 and sat with a cuppa and a few leftovers and promptly fell asleep in the chair so I was in bed way before 9pm. Needed that sleep that's for sure.

I've just been reading up on about 4 or 5 days of posts. can't possibly remember all the things I was going to comment on so I'll reread and respond to a few as I go.

Shirley I love that pink guzmania. I think to have lasted 6 months it has to be a species as they do last longer than hybrids. when you get a spare pup I'd love to swap you something. Johnny has repotted all his (note they are now his not mine) guzmanias into a more soil type mix than brom mix after learning they prefer this. he is also feeding regularly and foliar spraying regularly so hopefully we will get bigger and healthier plants with larger infloresences. thanks for the info on them Nev. I will certainly print that out for Johnny and his sister who is now into broms.

Jen your vriseas are colouring up very nicely and I'm sure you have some we didn't get from Richard and vise versa. lucky you having today in your broms. We had another do to go to so only had a little time this morning potting up seedlings before my sister and her husband popped in for a cuppa and chat then Darren and Hayden called round. I showed Hayden a couple of WII games I got for him so we had to connect that up for him to have a go then it was time to get ready to go out. Again it was around 7pm when we got home. luckily I had that sleep last night so was able to stay awake long enough to get onto the computer. LOL

Nev I love that neo fairy dust. and Sue those satsuma seedlings look interesting. I'll have to look for some seed on those and give it a try. Emily discovered some very purple berries on the leudemaniana rubra so we had to collect it and squeeze it into our strainer and wash it. Half has been potted and I'll do another container in a few months. I'm looking forward to the orlandiana and leudemaniana seedlings maturing. I think I should get some good stuff from them. I also collected seed on a quesnelia lieboniana down the back. There were 4 very red pods which fell away when I touched them so knew they were ripe. other pods were all just orange so they are stil on the plant. I checked the lieboniana down among the billbergias and it still only had the one red pod which must be the one I crossed with the billbergia so I now have that also planted out beside the straight quesnelia from down the back (I assume it is straight but could be crossed by nature).

Time for bed I think. I'll reread tomorrow night and respond to a few others. I'll add a few random pics from Christmas for you all to enjoy.
Pic 1 is of course pa and the girls with Santa
Pic 2 is Emily with her gingerbread house but what you can't see is the other side with no decorations as Emily ate too much of the icing straight out of the piping bags so we had to dash to the shops next morning to buy more decorations and pic 3 is the updated version with freckles filling in the gaps. NOTE TO SELF: next time decorate gingerbread pieces before assembling the house as we spent more time holding bits on while icing set otherwise they just slid straight off. lucky we had Emily, Hayden and me to hold different bits while they set.
Pic 4 is Rylee hamming it up with a santa hat on Christmas eve
Pic 5 is Rylee with a new fairy dress we gave her and she just had to put on straight away and the horsey we gave her. just a horse head on a stick with wheels but she loved it as she could squeeze it's ear and it made noises while she rode it.

Anyway my bed is calling me and it's already after 12.30. I'll post as soon as the pics load up.
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 26, 2012
11:30 AM

Post #9367595

Hi everyone – Well we had a nice fine (although cool) day yesterday not at all like we usually get at this time of the year. Maybe the fact that the world didn't end has thrown all of the seasons out of “whack”.

Podster – Great to hear from you again, how's thing going over in that part of the world? A bit cooler than here I expect. I'm pleased you found the little article interesting, I re-hash that one every few years in our brom. society news letter as we have new members joining all of the time and although it's all “old news” to most of us, we should never forget there are always new growers just starting out who find these little snippets of info helpful to them. I have never professed to have any literary talent and just try to pass on these little bits of info in simple language without all the “technical stuff” that new growers sometimes find a bit of a “turn off”.

I like the picture of your little xCryptbergia 'Red Burst' and I seem to remember it has a green flower with unusual blue margins on the petals. Could you please post another pic when the flowers open?

Your Aechmea Black chantinii & Aechmea recurvata var. benrathii in the same pot could produce some interesting seed if they both flower at the same time and either you, birds or ants decide to pollinate them. Anyway, don't make this visit a “one off”, drop in a bit more often than you have been as its always nice to hear from you.

Jen - Good to hear you got some rain also; it seems like Santa threw a bit around as he made his rounds.

This is the first flowering of Neo 'Fairy Dust' and Neo 'Burgundy Moss', so hopefully some pups won't be too far away, so I'll put your name on the labels for one of each, and when I get some spare I'll let you know, if you're still interested, well and good and if not, it doesn't matter as I won't have any trouble getting rid of them as they are pretty new down here.

It seems you are getting a pretty “classy” collection of patterned leaf Vrieseas together; do I detect a bit of Vriesea “hybridising” in the not too distant future? I liked the range of colours in them all and it's interesting how the coloured leaf tips of Vr. Platynema variegata have been passed on to it's babies. I think Pic.1 gets my vote for colour though and Pic.2 definitely gets my vote for shape. What do you think about Vr. Milky Way F2 x (Vr. Ubeaut x Illusion)?They could produce some interesting seedlings.

Shirley – Yes I'll put you down for one of each of those pups although you may have a bit of a wait as I always keep a spare fr myself and then Jen has already ordered one of each as well. As for Camelot, well I find it's one of those brom's that can change a little from year to year depending on where it is grown. I have two plants which originally came from the same mother plant and they are totally different.

What sort of snake is that on your fly screen? It seems to have a python shaped head, although I'm certainly no snake expert; however I hope it's non-venomous.

Wendy – I hope you have better luck with your Lueddemanniana seedlings than I did a few years back. I planted some seed from Lueddemannina c.v. Mend Inverta and being just new to all this, I thought I would grow some more of the same. Well I've never seen seed grow so quickly and soon I had them in three inch pots and six months later, into four inch pots. It was the year we had the bad “New Years Day Heatwave” down here and the garden was “cooked” and I was looking over the brom's in the shade houses to see if there was any damage. It was then I saw a touch of bright red on one of the leaves of these seedlings. As I watched them all closely over the next few days I found about six or more plants with the centre leaves starting to colour a nice bright red. By this time I had read up on the Lueddemanniana c.v's and was quite convinced I had bred a few nice seedlings similar to Ae. 'Rodco'. Gradually the leaves got brighter and brighter and I felt prouder and prouder and then the bomb dropped! I was wiping a cobweb off one of these leaves in preparation to take some pic's and the centre of the plant pulled out. The unmistakable stink that came from that plant could only mean one thing, ROT. I went through all of these red leaved plants and everyone was rotting. I was one very disappointed brom grower I can tell you. After the initial shock I realised what had happened was that these plants were all hanging on a sheet of wire mesh and the ones with red leaves were the highest. It seems the water in the centre had got so hot due to the heatwave that they had simply “cooked”!

That's it for today and the pic's today are Pic.1 is 3” pot size Ae. Lueddemanniana seedlings; Pic's 2 and 3 show the brilliant red coloured leaves which unfortunately were an indication of rot.

In a previous post you mentioned some tiny seedlings in which you thought you could see some variegation; Pic's 4 and 5 show the Neo Painted Lady (sport) which was used as a parent and which has transmitted variegation in past crosses.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 26, 2012
1:58 PM

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1. heres the Blanchie Sue swapped me in its new pot. 2. Johannis De Rolf is yellower in brighter light. Not as nice.
3. Splendens i also got from Sue. Love them both! thanks again Sue!
4. Luna 5. look at the stripes on it.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 26, 2012
3:05 PM

Post #9367787

Good morning all. I had a couple of days off to relax with friends and eat, eat, eat!
The weather on Xmas day was great, overcast and cool all afternoon. Then we got some rain (32mm) on Tuesday night, which is very welcome. Of course, now its as humid as, and I've just got back from an hours gardening in town with the sweat running off me! Whew! I have no plans for the day, so might get out and sort some more plants.
Shirley, I wonder if your Guzmania isn't G. 'Neon', G. 'Etude' or G. 'Voila' ? (spelling Not viola) I have G. 'Hilde' which is a hybrid, and lasts for more than six months in colour too. Aren't they good value?
Nev, that was a good article on growing tank broms. You needn't have raced to beat me, as I wasn't there, although I did look in to see if anyone had posted, and when I had, it was just Ian.
Ian, I second Jens sentiments, and hope you are keeping busy and getting some sleep.
Jen, your Vrieseas are colouring up well. Mine are just running out of fertiliser, which is making the colours come out, but the whole bench was upended in some strong wind awhile back, and all the leaves are damaged, so no photos, and probably will have to wait for pups before getting to see good shape again.
Nice to see you here, Kristi. Aechmea 'Chantinii' is one of my favourites! I notice you post in the bromeliad forum from time to time, but I can't access it because I am not a paid subscriber. Is it worth becoming one? Is there much going on in that forum? Mind you, I don't know that I have time for any more.
Bree, I am glad the broms are doing well, and that you are happy with them. I tied the king orchid to a palm trunk at eye level, so when it flowers, it will smack me in the face! heh heh. Epidendrum fragrans is just opening flowers now, so I'll add a pic for you.
Wendy, it sounds like you were very popular over Xmas, and were lucky to get so many drink invites, by the sounds. Not much drinking going on here, although there is New Years to celebrate yet!
Pic one is Aechmea carvalhoi
Pic two is Epidendrum fragrans
Pic three is the centre of N. 'Pride Of Ipswich' and a friend here, on Xmas day, was amazed at 'The garden in the middle'
Pic four is N. smithii
Pic five is Canistropsis bilbergioides variegated
Hello to anyone looking in.
Sue

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 27, 2012
12:23 AM

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Cant wait to see that Epi with all the flowers open Sue.
1. Break Of Day (thanks Nev). 2. Jewellery Shop pup. 3. Rosella. 4. Nev I think the Aech. Chianti 'Jean' you sent me is getting to much sun. Alot of my trees are growing and im starting to get some shadey areas in my yard so i'll have to move some of the broms that can't handle the sun(which isnt many).
5. Blushing Tiger as it ages in alot of light and flowers... with pup neally the same size.

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ianperry

December 27, 2012
1:50 AM

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Hi all Dg is really playing with me tonight
Pic 1 Ae ??? brown/red bands on underside and curly leaves.
Pic 2 Purple coloured nudicaulis
Have a good one
Ian

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perke_patch

December 27, 2012
4:05 AM

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Hi everyone
Sue where do you find the time to do other peoples gardens. We're flat out getting through our own work and there's 2 of us. and you have so much more room to cover than we do. I've never seen a variegated canistropsis before. if you have plenty of them I'd love you to put my name on one. We'll get down to visit you soon. Johnny says he can't stay here when Max goes so we plan to jump in the motorhome and get away for a week or so. I think he is planning on Coffs as we really did love it down there. I'll keep in touch re that. Otherwise if Max hangs maybe Jen and I will do a crawl down that way before school goes back. Either way I think we'll be seeing each other soon ... January sometime.

Nev I love your leudemanniana seedlings. the one I collected the seeds from is pretty much same colour as your seedlins (see pic 1). I am glad to hear they grow fast so I'll keep an eye on them and be ready to pot them up next year. I also put down some seed from ae triangularis (see pic 2) these are growing so fast already I also have 2 of those painted lady seedlings you sent me. they look very much like your pic 4 & 5. Pic 3 is the little hothouse I built for the triangularis seedlings. this is 3 weeks of growing to make these little plants so maybe they will grow as fast as Nev's leudemaniana seedlings.

I just had to share a pic of the gift that Karen gave me. She turned up here with a laundry basket full of epiphyllum plants and cuttings and I've already had 3 new ones flowering but this week we had one of these stunnin pink ones open. Johnny loved it so much he hung it at the very end of a row so as you walked up you couldn't help but see it ahead.

I think I'll have an early night tonight so I'm going to turn off now. Night all.
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 27, 2012
12:40 PM

Post #9368516

Hi everyone – I suppose you've all been shopping to see what bargains you could get at the Boxing Day Sales; unfortunately there probably wouldn't be any brom's on special there anyway. I spent the day putting the finishing touches to the wind shutters on my shade shelter before I finish off the painting.

Breeindy – You've got some great colour in your “Blanchie”, is it growing out in the open without any protection from the sun? Also nice markings on the Neo. Luna; how much light are you giving that one?

Sue – Glad to hear you had a nice Christmas Day and you were able to eat, eat, eat. Was it a “Kiwi Lunch” including “Fush 'n Chups”...Ha! Ha! I wish I'd been there. I have a big mate who is a Maori and boy does he cook up a storm when we have a “Pete Barbie” He has this half stainless steel beer keg which he has made into a sort of modified camp oven. He cooked a rather large piece of beef which he put in the keg, with vege's and a few other bits and pieces (which he wouldn't tell us about) poured in a can of beer, sealed it up and put it in the ground covered in hot coals. After a few hours and a slab of beer he digs it out and the beef is so tender it just melts in your mouth (I'm dribbling at the mouth just thinking about it).

I like your Epidendrum Fragrans, I haven't seen that one before; is it a small flower like what we call the “Crucifix Orchid” or is it bigger? I also like your Canistropsis bilbergioides variegated; I bought a pup off one of these last year but it hasn't flowered yet so I hope it's as good as yours.

Breeindy – You've just given me a Christmas present as you've posted pic's of my three all time favourite small/medium sized brom's. I like this size of brom as they don't take up a lot of space, are easy to handle and are usually always colourful. A few years back I got a pup of Neo. 'Rosella' from a brom growing friend in Far North Queensland and I followed her instructions and grew it hanging right up just beneath the beige shade cloth.

It grew into a beautiful little well shaped plant which I entered in our annual show and was fortunate enough to win a prize with. My intention with shows is not to deliberately set out to win prizes, but to mainly to share the beauty of these wonderful plants with others and perhaps encourage more people (especially children and young adults) to try their hands at growing them as we need new, younger growers to keep the brom growing fraternity alive and well.

I have found that Ae. Chianti 'Jean' prefers a shadier aspect to maintain the nice deep burgundy coloured foliage; given too much light the foliage colour will bleach out and the plants just don't look nice at all. It's a great plant to grow hanging in a shadier area above Nidulariums and other shade tolerant plants and is a plant that will pup readily and flower easily under these conditions. It is an excellent “burgundy foliage” Aechmea for beginners as it's easy to grow and I have given many away to young folk who show an interest in growing brom's. However, like all plants with burgundy or concolour foliage, it can be a bit cold sensitive if not given a little protection during the winter months

Ian – I have to sympathise with you, as it's most frustrating when D.G. decides to mess around with your posts. I went through a period when it was happening to me also; first I would just get the post all typed up and it would disappear and then the pic's were put in a different order to the order they were posted and during one period I could read the posts of others but couldn't send any myself or sometimes I could just send the post without the pic's. I found that by first typing my post in Microsoft Word and then cutting and pasting it to DG, I never had any more problems (maybe there's a time limit on how long you take to type a post) With the pic's I found that if I reduced the size, they loaded much quicker and once again I never had any more trouble in this area.

Getting back to brom's now and having a close look at your first pic., it is great example of what stage the plant should be when starting out to establish it as a mounted specimen in a tree. The plant isn't too large, but more importantly it has a new pup starting to grow. This is the important part as this pup is what will grow its new roots and anchor the plant to the tree. The mother plant has finished flowering and won't attach itself to the tree so it's up to the pup to provide this attachment. I think the most important part of this type of culture (and it can't be stressed too much) is that the plant must be firmly attached and unable to move. If it can move, the new roots will be pulled off the tree as they try to attach, and plants are then very reluctant to put out new roots in this type of situation if they aren't attached firmly so they can't move right from the start. The other important thing often overlooked, is the fact that these plants will dry out much quicker than those in pots, and consequently need a bit more water, especially in the early stages when they are trying to attach themselves to the host.

When attaching brom's to trees, firstly and most importantly, you need to select a suitable tree; it must not be of the type that sheds its bark annually and should preferably have a rough back for the roots to attach to and have something to “grip”. Select a suitable position on the tree, this can be in the fork as Ian has done or can be on a branch, it doesn't really matter as long as the plant is firm and can't move. Attaching the plant so it doesn't move can be achieved by different methods and the most common is probably “Panty Hose” (bought at $2 shops and not stolen from the clothes line) as they are tight, will stretch, and most importantly, they won't rot. I still remember the look of disdain I got from the girl behind the checkout when I bought the first couple of pairs of these, but I soon put her mind at rest when I told her I used them for tying plants onto host trees or for straining paint.

There are other things to use for tying which are just as suitable and a couple of examples are 25mm strips of old shade cloth which should be stretched firmly whilst tying on the plant and like “Panty Hose” it won't rot or come loose either if attached properly in the first place. Another thing I found very good is a bit of old nylon “Bird Netting” of the type used to net fruit trees; it too has the correct “stretch”, is strong and won't rot either. A friend of mine simply attached his plants by "nailing them on" ouch!. He has found that if the plant has a thick stolen, a nail can be driven through this to achieve a good attachment; but don't used copper or galvanised nails as you'll surely kill your plant; the best ones to use are made of stainless steel.

Select the position the plant is to be grown and wrap the “Panty Hose” (or other tying material) firmly around the tree and the plant, making sure to tie it on firmly with a knot that won't slip.(Any of you that were in the Boy Scouts or Girl Guides will know that a “Reef Knot” is the easiest for this purpose) The other popular misconception is that you must put some Sphagnum Moss or potting mix behind the plant for it to grow into. True the plant will grow roots into these mediums; but in doing so won't attach to the host tree as the roots will preferentially select the easiest medium into which to grow. The heel of the pup (the part where the new roots grow from) should be in direct contact with the tree so the roots have no choice other than the bark onto which to grow and attach.

Wendy – The Ae Lueddemanniana in your first pic. I think is what is commonly called Ae Lueddemanniana 'Rubra' (referring to the colour red). There are others with more pinkish leaves, but the two most common foliage colours they come in are an (olive type) green and the “rubra” colour shown in your (sideways) pic. The flowers on all of the different ones seem to be the same.

I like you little “hot house”, what is it they say, “necessity is the mother of invention”, well the necessity has certainly turned up a great improvised albeit temporary home for these little plantlets. I say temporary because those little seedlings look so healthy they look like they'll soon out grow their new home and be looking for larger quarters.

That's a beautiful epiphyllum flower; I don't know anything about these nor do I grow them but it really is a beautiful flower. Are they short lived like most of these beautiful types of flowers? It's good to hear you are in contact with Karen; we haven't heard from her for so long I was wondering how she's getting on with her health problems. Can you ask her to drop in and say “good day”? It will be good to hear from her again..

That's it for today, I can't wait any longer for Sue so I'll finish with something a bit different and show some pic's taken by Chanin Thurot, my “Brom Friend” from Thailand. These are some pic's he took at a Thai Plant Market; doesn't it make you wish we had markets like that over here? Notice the nice filled in shape and the large number of leaves that the Thai growers seem to be able to get on their Neo's. Obviously it's a combination of climate and grower skill to produce such spectacular results.

All the best, Nev.


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77sunset
Merino
Australia

December 27, 2012
4:02 PM

Post #9368623

Hello everyone. I hope you all enjoyed a pleasant time over Christmas.
Nearly next year now and then Easter.

I did a bit of tidying in my brom house yesterday and have finally moved all the old mums and any shabby plants down to the back shadehouse. I need to take off quite a few pups and repot the others.
I can do it down there where I have a good bench and chair.

i found all my vriesias and have them together now. I also have flowers on two of them.
The vriesias seem to do really well here so I would like to get a few more.

I have accumulated a few more broms over the past few months which are all looking good.

i look at all the ones on here and wish I had the room for them.

If anyone has any vriesias to sell please dmail me with info .
I should have asked earlier instead of looking on eBay.

pic 1...vr. Ginger

pic 2...vr Sundance ...I cant find a pic of this one that looks like mine.

pic 3 ... vr. heiroglyphica x Red Chestnut ...this one only had the parents, no name. I love it .It is about 32cm across now.

pic 4...nidularium fulgens (back) & neo. Sheldance

pic 5...neo Midnight ( front ) & aech. organensis. ...I looked at pics and my "Midnight "seems to look like the one from Goode, the other I saw was very black..

Jean.




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77sunset
Merino
Australia

December 27, 2012
4:11 PM

Post #9368636

A few more...

pic 6 ...coelestis albamarginata... this was a tiny thing about 4" long when given to me. It has taken about 4 years to get to this size.

pic 7...bil. Windii

pic 8...neo. Burbank

pic 9...two noids, they look like guzmanias to me. One had a very tall flower when I bought them as unnamed orphans a few years ago.

Jean.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 28, 2012
1:17 AM

Post #9368818

Nev- That Blanchie is from Sue i cant take any credit from growing it but i'll let you's know how it goes now in the sun. I have this smaller one which looks the same which is in full sun and i think i'll put it in the same pot the one from Sues is in like a matching pair in my front garden(no room for them in my Brom garden). Nev my Luna gets full sun, except in the late afternoon. Glad you liked your xmas pressy from me. hehe! i like the patterns on them broms i posted. I think i remember your Rosella pics being very nice and worthy of an award.
1. Blanchie from Sue 2 & 3. my little one 4. i love this pup, its tagged Ariadne??

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 28, 2012
2:23 AM

Post #9368823

Hi All.
Jean, your two unknown ones are Vrieseas, probably splenreit. All your babies are doing well. I bet you are happy with them. Did you have a good Xmas?
Bree, your plants are looking good too. Its a great time of year for bromeliads, thats for sure.
Nev, the Thailand broms are beautiful. I think they get great shape with layers of leaves at the expense of flowers, and therefor pups? I'd like to know where they get their broms from if pups are slow or non-existent?
No, no 'Fush and Chups' here, but we did have prawns and oysters! Yum! I know exactly what you are talking about with the keg, and I have seen one made that uses gas to cook, and it also turns out with the meat falling from the bone.
The epidendrum fragrans flower is quite a bit larger than the 'Crucifix' orchid. Its got a few more buds out now, so maybe I'll get a better shot tomorrow and put something with it to show size.
Wendy, its a push doing anyone elses gardens, but I haven't been able to find a reliable, knowledgable gardener to take over the last two jobs. I've had two or three different people try out, and they have made a variety of mistakes, such as ring barking trees when whipper snippering, and mulching straight over the top of weeds, not to mention charging like a wounded bull! Like my garden, I stay on top of the other two, and its never hard work. That pink Epiphyllum is gorgeous.
I've sent you a Dmail about visiting e.t.c.
Ian, when should I post your seeds? Best that you are at home when I do.
Sue
Photo one is Neo. 'Spots And Dots'
Photo two is a NOID Aechmea
Photo three is a NOID Nidularium
Photo four is Edmundoa lindenii from a variegated ones seed. The two are the same age, but show how different they can be with potting up and fertiliser.
Photo five is an Alcantarea grass pup that has gone haywire. I'm going to grow it on and see if it changes. I suspect it has had a pest that has sent it strange

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 28, 2012
5:15 AM

Post #9368856

Hi all, we have been having such beautiful days lately and the odd shower at night, which is great. It is still very hot but bearable. I haven’t had a chance to do much in the garden or in the shadehouses for a few days now. With visitors and post xmas shopping I haven’t kept up with the housework either so that’s tomorrow taken care of, washing and vacuuming … when I win lotto I am going to hire someone to clean my house.

I was feeling a bit crook last night … sore throat, headache, so had an early night. I felt a lot better this morning but it is still lurking so I am hoping I can ward it off.

Wendy, sounds like you had a very busy xmas ... relax, you have 361 days before you have to do it all again. No sign of pups yet on the guzmania you like but when they appear, the second one is yours, I like to keep the first one.

Nev, I don’t know what type of snake it was curled up in the screen but it was gone in the morning. Thanks for adding my name to your ‘pup’ list for neos Fairy Dust and Burgundy Moss. Your neo Painted Lady (sport) is a lovely plant too. Can you imagine how many broms we would all have in our collections if we had markets selling broms like the ones in your pics of a Thai plant market. Wouldn't it be great ... I know I would blow the budget big time if I had access to such an awesome selection of broms on sale at our local market.

Bree, your neo Luna is a stunner. Nice colour in your blanchie.

Sue, the guzmania in my pic could be any one of those you mention, they all look very similar and I agree, they certainly are good value. Love the colour in your NOID Nid and looking at the pic of your two Edmundoa, boy, what a difference a little extra TLC makes.

That's it for me tonight, bye for now

Shirley

Pic 1 is neo Bold Streak x McWilliamsii, pic 2 is neo Gunpowder ? what does everyone think, please

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 28, 2012
11:39 AM

Post #9369132

Morning all, back to my old routine!
Shirley, your Neo. 'Gunpowder' doesn't look quite right to me. I haven't got one anymore, but mine was a real pink/purple colour, where as yours seems to be orangey, and the green is very olive. I could be wrong! It looks more like a 'Grey Nurse' type or 'Ying', 'Yang', to me, but like I said, I could be wrong.
Glad you are getting some rain and some cooler temps. This morning, here has started off windy and overcast. I am hoping it clears as I'd like to go for a ride in the country. I got my housework done on Boxing day so I'm good to go!
I've been continually cleaning up and sorting bromeliads every day, and have only a few more trays before i have gone through them all, and then I will start again with de-pupping in mind, but not until February for the Neos. I find, if I remove them too early in summer, they flower prematurely. Does anyone else find this? I really need to make another area, just for newly potted pups. I have plenty of shade, but need a covered area to keep the leaves and debris out. We have a plan and a spot to build one, its just finding the motivation to do it. When its hot, nothing appeals!
Anyway, I hope everyone has a good weekend and I'll catch up again tomorrow.
Sue
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 28, 2012
12:00 PM

Post #9369143

Sad news, I just saw a RIP to Max on Facebook, so Wendy and Johnny have lost poor Max and are no doubt hurting terribly right now. Big hugs to you both.
ianperry

December 28, 2012
12:25 PM

Post #9369169

Hi all, 1 more sleep tilI go home.I will then find out what changes there are there. Then to work on my plants and see if I can build a new covered area to keep leaves out ov the vases,
I might even be able to work better with my computer. It has a different set up to this one and as a desktop is a lot more comfortable than this laptop.
I guess it is time for me to learn about the programmes i have on my computer. I do not know how to find Word so I can't use it. I am using windows7 ahd will have to take another tour and hope for the best. ! word change means so much difference in the world of computers.
I might get lucky and find a plant or 2 on the way home.Sunday morning, go for a ride, hey hey it's a lovely day.
Have a good one.
Ian

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 28, 2012
12:30 PM

Post #9369177

Hi all – Well, here we are again another weekend; gee it'll soon be next year and then Easter and then Christmas again and I still won't have all of my work done. I spent yesterday morning watching my youngest grandson (2yr.old) having his third swimming lesson. It was great to see someone so young learning to swim and enjoying it.

I spent the afternoon “dead leafing” Neo's in the main shade house and was shocked to find pups on everything and almost large enough to take off. Just when I thought I'd caught up with all of the de-pupping and potting up I'm back to square one once again. It looks like I'll have to have a large clearance sale to clear out some excess plants and gain a bit of bench space.

I hope those who have been unwell are now well and truly on the road to recovery and will be sparking on all cylinders in 2013.

Jean - Nice to see you posting and putting up pic's again. It's good to see you taking an interest in Vrieseas; a lot of growers tend to think of them as delicate plants which are difficult to grow and flower but I have found just the opposite. A few years back when we copped a heat wave on New Years Day, most of the plants in the garden were badly burnt and the Neo's suffered the worst of all. Surprisingly the few Vrieseas I had planted among the Neo's only had a few burnt leaf tips and some bleaching which was far less than the Neo's had.

I had always thought of Vrieseas as a much weaker plant than Neoregelias mainly based on the fact that their leaves were thinner and they somehow just appeared to be more delicate. Since that heatwave I have found this to be far from the truth and I have had them in the garden without protection right through the summer and winter and they only sustained minimal damage and much less than some of the other brom's growing under the same conditions.

The bonus of course is that there are two main types; the “patterned leaf type” which are grown for their coloured patterned foliage and the “plain leaf types” which are grown for their flowers. This second type can be bought indoors when in flower and they last for a month or two providing colour in the house for far less expense than cut flowers would cost for the same period, so all in all they are a good investment for either the garden or in the house when flowering. Another method of culture you don't often see with Vrieseas is that they also do well mounted on trees.

I have mine growing with my Guzmanias beneath shade cloth on the southern side of the house which is a 'less than ideal” aspect as it's very shady in the winter time, however they seem to handle the lower light OK which can be another benefit. In fact I was cleaning up that part of the yard last week and was surprised to see just how many are putting up flower spikes. I must admit I had neglected them a bit over the last few years but this year I decided to start feeding them a bit (like the Guzmanias they like more feeding than Neo's and Aechmeas) and the results have been very pleasing. I'll take a few pic's and post them tomorrow.

Your two plants in the last pic look like vrieseas to me, and judging by the banding on the leaves, probably Vr. Splendriet. They could also be either Vr. Splendens or Vr. Splendide, but Vr. Splendriet is my bet as it's commercially grown in the thousands and the most common of the three. Both of these have a brilliant orange/red sword like inflorescence which is quite spectacular.

The downside of these however is that they are a bit cold sensitive so give them a bit of protection during the colder months, especially down in your area. I had a plant which was so severely damaged by the cold a few years back I almost tossed it in the green bin, but I gave it a reprieve and it rewarded me with three nice pups all of which flowered (see Pic.1) when they matured and I have never had a plant do this before or since. I think it was so near death with all of the cold damage that "Mother Nature" stepped in and helped it put in one last mammoth effort to reproduce itself before it died; firstly in the form of pups, then flowers, and later seed.

Sue – A lot of the Thai growers import their plants from America, Hawaii and Australia as well as hybridising their own. There are a couple of very experienced hybridisers doing some great things with their plants over there but I don't have a contact address for them and I'm reluctant to post pic's without their permission.

What you say about the stacks of leaves and minimal pups is very true and there was quite a long thread about this very subject some time back on the Garden Web. Basically the reasons given were: In Thailand, a Neo usually won't pup until after it flowers. The climate there is responsible for the growth of multiple leaves and because these plants continue to stack on leaves, they do so at the expense of flowers, hence not many pups. I used to get brom's from a lady up on the hinterland inland from Cairns and the micro climate there often did similar things to her Neo's, and although she grew beautiful plants with multiple leaves, she was envious of me being able to produce multiple pups quickly and easily although I could never replicate the leaf stacking. So I guess in our climate, we can't grow multiple stacks of leaves but we can produce many pups but in Thailand they have the complete reverse and they would like to see more pups; I guess you just can't have your cake and eat it too.

I understand completely what you're saying about some of these “so called” gardeners. Just after I had my back operation and wasn't allowed to do any bending, we got a young bloke in (a supposed gardener) to tidy up the brom gardens in the back yard. Some of the plants near the garden edge had the leaves overhanging, and he just clipped them off with the hedge clippers (I must say it was a nice straight cut). Needless to say he only lasted 25 minutes, it's the same with the young bloke who cuts the grass, a couple of weeks back one of the Neo's near the garden edge had toppled onto the grass and instead of picking it up, he just “whipper snippered” right through all of the leaves. Apparently he just knew how to cut grass and anything else which required a bit of common sense just wasn't an option, so he got the arse also. I laugh about it now but I wasn't laughing at the time I can tell you.

Sue your NOID Aechmea could be Ae. Ramosa Festiva. My plant in (Pic 2) was grown beneath 75% beige shade cloth and had finished flowering with just the berries left when this pic was taken. Your Nidularium NOID I think is Nid Innocentii Var. Striatum. It seems very similar to my plant in (Pic.3) and the difference in colour could be due to light variations as mine was grown beneath 75% green shade cloth in a shady area of the garden.

Your Edmundoa plants in your Pic.4 show a good example of the advantages of fertilising, OK when you have a large area to grow in like you do, but if all we grew them that large we would need more space and then the overcrowding starts all over again. As for your “little bloke” in Pic.5, I think he's had a visit from and been contaminated by the “Men from Mars”.

Shirley – Like your weather, ours has been pretty good lately also with the odd shower at night to freshen things up. Although I've spent a bit of time in the garden, I'm not getting as much done as I would like. This morning is taken up, as I'm off to watch my little grandson learning to swim again and as I see it, I only get one chance to see this sort of thing as once he grows up there's no going back so I have to make the best of it while I can; the garden will still be there when I get back to it.

I have my doubts about the name of your Neo. 'Bold Streak' x McWilliamsii as it's very different to mine and there are a lot of plants around with similar markings and colour.. I got my plant from Jen see Pic.4 which is Jen's pic of her own plant which she has posted previously and which looks like it has had the benefit of the good Queensland light. My plant in Pic.5 doesn't have the rich colour of Jen's but it was initially grown in lower light. The pups from my plant grown are now growing in bright light and are the same colour as Jen's plant. The markings on your plant seems quite different as well as the colour so what do others think?

As for the plant of Neo.'Gunpowder', I can't comment as I only have a small pup to compare with it but all I can say is that I hope my pup turns out like your plant as it's a great looking well grown plant with terrific colour.

Wendy – Like the rest of us I'm so sorry to hear the news of Max's passing. My thoughts are with you both at this very sad and emotional time and I know exactly what you're feeling, having just recently been through the same sad situation myself. Rest assured he had a very good life with the love and care you and Johnny gave him.

I'll finish now with the pictures mentioned above and wish you all the best, Nev
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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 28, 2012
4:19 PM

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Hi Everyone!

Hope everyone had a memorable and enjoyable Christmas. We had a great couple of days spent with friends who stayed over a couple of nights who left yesterday and although we had a fantastic time with them we secretly must admit that the peace and quiet in the house right now is ever so blissful. The kids (three girls aged 6 and 9) had a wonderful time swimming and playing with our dogs, they also enjoyed promenading around the garden looking at all my bromeliads and were very intrigued about their names and how to grow them and it was nice hearing them running back to their parents to tell them about some of the ones they liked in the garden and grabbing mum or dad by the hand to go and show them. They also got a real kick out of discovering the little frogs in them and kept squealing each time they found one. They also discovered quickly that some bromeliads bite when they lost some of their lollies amongst them and tried to retrieve them, let’s just say Neo Hannibal Lector of all the broms was a horrible choice for them to mess with and I had to sooth one of the girls arms with some Aloe Vera I picked from the garden lol.

Hi Jean sounds like you have been very busy reorganising all your bromeliads, isn’t it a nice feeling when you have them organised or find a bromeliad hidden amongst the others that you have not seen for a while, and then there are all the lovely pups when discovered that you get to separate and pot up, it is such a satisfying feeling don’t you think.

Hi Jean like Sue I think the NOID Pic 4 you posted on 27/12 (second thread) that they both could be Vr. Splendrite, they will colour up nice if given the right light but they do not like too much direct light. I have mine growing under 70% shade cloth and the markings on the leaf are very distinctive. I will post a pic if I can find one or take another picture today to post so you can compare.

Hi Nev it was a very interesting read the information you provided on 27/12 regarding mounting specimens on trees, would a mango tree be suitable given that it has rough bark?

Nev luved all your brom pics posted on 28/12. At first glance I thought Shirley’s Neo ‘Bold Streak’ x McWilliamsii (the one on the l/h/s) was just that but just not as mature as the one I have? I will post a pic. The one on the right has very different markings; Shirley is this labelled the same name or a different name? Nev your one has a lot more colour than mine, mind you mine is still only a mature pup and still has a lot of growing and colouring up to do.

Hi Wendy that pink Epiphyllum flower Pic 4 you posted on 27/12 is gorgeous; the flower really stands out doesn’t it. The little hothouse you built for your triangularis seedlings are also working a treat by the looks of how well they are growing.

Wendy, Johnny – so very sad to hear about beautiful Max, our thoughts go out to you both, we completely understand what emotions you would be going through right now as we have been privileged to have owned, luved and lost some beautiful dogs in our lives and there is not a day that goes by that I do not think about them all with the fondest of memories. Our lives are whole because of them and they are such a huge part of our lives and I know we will always have them in our lives no matter what and if I had my way I would want to adopt as many as we possibly could and am a firm believer that they luv and treat us better than we luv and treat ourselves and they are so good for our health and wellbeing.

Hi Ian hope you’re enjoying spending time with your daughter and new grandson. Great to see you are still managing to find brom around the garden to post pics of.

Hi Bree great to hear your trees are growing and providing much needed shade for your broms. What about popping a bit of shade cloth up here and there in your garden, it works a treat in our garden and we get to still see all the broms and it is easy enough to get to them for shuffling pots around or weeding etc. Luved all the brom pics you posted by the way, and how cute is your pup of Neo Blushing Tiger, mine should be pupping soon, I’ve just popped mine in more shade because it was getting too much light and loosing colour but the colour is starting to come back again.

Hi Sue glad to hear you got some rain, so did we for a couple of days. Really liked the Epidendrum Pic 2 you posted on 26/12, what a gorgeous flower it has, its shape is so very different to anything I have seen before. Does the flower smell? Your Pic 4 of Neo ‘Smithii’ is also very nice, luv the purple blotches all over it, is this one a mini grower?

Sue sounds like you are busy as usual in the garden and I can totally understand that it is hard to get motivated in this heat. I am just finishing a cup of tea and then heading out into the garden to weed the front yard as I want to inject some more bromeliads into the area (go figure) as there is a fair bit of shade there and this saves us having to put up more shade cloth for now.

Hi Kristi great to hear from you, really liked all the pics you posted. Hope we hear from you some more in 2013.

Jen, thanks yeah hubby and I are having a great break together and making the most of every day. We went for a swim last night and it was nice just taking time out to look at the stars in the sky and listen to all the noises in the dark, then we woke up bright and early this morning and took the girls for a walk on the beach and it was high tide which was nice and we sat under a tree that was full of black cockatoo’s that were having a good old munch on some nuts in the tree.

Jen I adored each and every vriesea pics you posted on 25/12, by the looks of things you are doing a great job growing them as well as the gorgeous colours that are coming out in them all, what is your secret?

Jen in relation to your question on what do I feed my broms, well I must admit I don’t feed them as much as I should but I don’t think they need that much feeding really as they get plenty enough nutrients out of the bromeliad mix I grow them in and on the odd occasion my vrieseas get a bit of slow realise fertiliser or Condy’s Crystals and sometimes some of my husband’s orchid food, but I make sure that whatever I feed them is at a very weak dose. Whenever I cut off pups I usually check the mother for disease or pests and normally put her into a fresh new pot with new bromeliad mix as well as the pups get fresh pots and new mix also and once the pups have settled they get a quarter teaspoon of slow release fertiliser granules every couple of months or so depending on how they are travelling.

Hi Shirley hope your sore throat and headache has gone away and that you are feeling much better, take it easy and remember that housework can wait conserve your energy and then tackle it when you’re feeling better. I am thinking of hiring a cleaner to do all our windows next year as I just don’t have the time or energy to do them properly as there are just too many of them to do.

Shirley I don’t think that the Pic 2 NOID you posted on 28/12 is Neo Gunpowder? I will attach a picture of my one for comparison. I was going to say the same as Sue Neo Grey Nurse type and will post a pic of both for you to see.

Anyway time to get my butt out into the garden, hopefully I can find enough shady spots to hide and get some stuff done while I can before I run out of time and have to go back to work (sad face :( ).

Hi to anyone else looking in and anyone on the Sick List, we miss hearing from you all.

Take care and Happy Gardening Everyone! Look forward to speaking with you all real soon!

Trish

Pic 1 – Neo ‘Splendrite’ for Jen to compare with her’s.
Pic 2 - Neo ‘Gun Powder’ when comparing against Neo ‘Grey Nurse’ in Pic 3 for Shirley.
Pic 4 – Neo ‘Bold Streak’ x McWilliamsii’
Pic 5 – Nidularium ‘Rutilans ‘Spotty’

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 28, 2012
4:25 PM

Post #9369373

Apologies Jen and Jean I think I inadvertently got your names mixed up in my above thread - silly billy me...I got a bit cross eyed by the time I attached my thread and got myself confused with the many threads I have had to catch up on reading and responding to questions etc.

Trish

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 29, 2012
1:26 AM

Post #9369594

Trish- really love your Neo ‘Splendrite’.
1. Well look at my brom tagged Bold Streak’ x McWilliamsii’?, i think Nevs and Trish's look right. I dont know what yours is Shirley but it awsome, so is your Gunpowder, i think its to nice to be Gunpowder. ha!

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 29, 2012
5:47 AM

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Hi everyone, another very hot and muggy day here today. We managed to get a bit done in the garden late this afternoon, weeding and mowing and a bit of trimming … everything is growing so quickly.

Sue, thanks for your suggestions re my neo Gunpowder? I guess for now it will continue life as a NOID. I have had a couple of neos that flowered prematurely and wondered why … can’t remember when I removed them though. I will have to make a note and keep a check on any pups that I have removed recently.

Wendy, so sorry to hear that you and Johnny have lost Max. He had a great life with you and he’s up there in doggy heaven keeping an eye on you both. No doubt you will miss him for a long time and remember him fondly.

Ian, hope you manage to find your way around your computer. Hope you found some new plants on the way home too.

Nev, what a nice surprise finding advanced pups you weren’t even aware were there on so many of your neos. I am sure you will have no trouble clearing out your excess plants. Your neo Bold Streak x McWilliamsii is certainly a different colour to mine, which is quite pink-purple. And thanks for the compliments on my neo Gunpowder (or whatever), it is a lovely plant.

Trish, Nev, the two Bold Streak x McWilliamsii plants in the pot are pups from the same mum, long removed. The one on the right has much wider and brighter streaks than the one on the left, so maybe a sport. I have been planning to separate them for a long time and will have to do it soon so I get pups from both. The pups from the one on the right might prove interesting.

Trish, I have to agree with you that while it’s terrific to have friends and family visit, it’s so nice when things get back to normal and peace and quiet returns. And I am feeling a lot better now, thanks.

Also thanks to everyone for your help with identifying my NOID neo.

Bree, that’s a nice Bold Streak x McWilliamsii.

Just the one pic tonight … neo Small World.

Bye for now, Shirley


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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 29, 2012
12:01 PM

Post #9369952

Good Morning.
Ian, I am glad to hear you are on your way home. I will get a parcel off to you later next week. You're not wrong about the word 'Change' meaning alot when it comes to computers. I have a little android tablet, and it comes with no instructions, so it has meant alot of poking, prodding, swiping and googling! I have most of it under control now, but it was very different to using a normal PC. Good luck with learning new things. You sound like an intelligent guy, so I'm sure you will work it out.
Nev, Your ID of Nidularium innocentii var striatum, looks the same as mine. I also have one that looks the same, but has no stripes, and the flower is pink. It is different to everything else I have. I thought it was Nidularium longiflorum at first, but the flower is not right. As for the Aechmea, the ones I have are completely different in the leaf. I have a couple similar to your A. ramosa var festiva (possibly even the exact one) but this one is different. I thought the leaf shape and plant size was similar to A. lueddemaniana, (shade grown) but it was yellow/green overlaid with red, and now the flower spikes are red/orange. I put it over in planet bromeliad on Facebook, but didn't get any hits there, surprisingly. It has been grown in high light so I thought maybe the leaf is usually green? I will have to wait for the flowers to emerge more I guess.
Trish, sounds like you are making the most of your time off. We are the same here. The pool is getting some use this summer, which makes a change from the few previous wet summers.
It sounds like your visitors had a wondeful time, and you may have sparked an interest in one of the girls, to go on to grow bromeliads. Ahhhh, a future customer! heh heh.
The Epidendrum has a beautiful fragrance, and is one to bring inside and enjoy. I inherited it, so whenever it flowers I think of my friend. The Neo smithii is a small grower, just a little larger than a mini. It is a species, so a good one to use in breeding because its genes are stable, and not mixed with multiple hybrids. It has been a very slow grower for me though.
I laughed when I read your notes to Jen on feeding. It sounds as though you are feeding your plants very adequately, and possibly alot more than most growers, so no wonder your plants look so healthy and happy. I try to keep a fertilising routine going with mine, but must admit, it gets a bit haphazard. Luckily for me, they cope.
Bree, how was your Xmas? Are you spending much time in the garden?
Shirley, that Neo. 'Small World' is too cute! Sorry we couldn't identify your NOID for you, but at least we all had a guess! I love that, between us,we have eough experience to have seen or owned a plant of a particular name, which makes identification almost possible for most photos. There will always be NOIDS, and to be honest, I have quite a few, and am happy to have them anyway!
I will quickly dusk out and get a pic of the Epidendrum BRB
Hubby just called me a 'nut job' for being outside in my nightclothes. Its fairly early, and no one around, so why not?
Lets see what i found
Photo one is Epidendrum fragrans, almost in full bloom
Photo two shows V. ospinae var gruberi, top one grown in high light, bottom one in deep shade.
Photo three is Portea petropolitana var extensa in flower.
Photo four is the NOID nidularium that is different than the others. Its like the inoocentii var striatum but no variegation?
Photo five, Nev, I knew I had an Aechmea ramosa!
Sue


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 29, 2012
3:50 PM

Post #9370094

Good morning everyone, time for breakfast and then more jobs to see to out among the brom's.

Ian – I missed your post yesterday as we both posed at about the same time. I like the old steam loco, is it still operational? There's nothing to compare with the smell of steam and the enjoyment of a steam train ride, brings back a lot of great memories of the “good old days”. These fancy trains of today are just so uninteresting and don't seem to be “alive” like the old steamers were.

As for using a laptop computer, I don't think I'll go down that path as I'm still coming to terms with this “old dinosaur” and I'm afraid all of this technology has left me far behind.

Trish – It's interesting to hear what you say about the children who visited you and their introduction to Bromeliads. I have an area under shade cloth which I just built out off the fence (the area I recently fitted the shutters to the front of). It's twelve feet out from the fence and as I have a lot of hanging plants, it's necessary to get to the back of them for watering. The easiest way was to make a track between the rear of the main lot of brom's and the ones along the fence. Actually it started out as a track my old dog "Clyde" made when he would chase stray cats out of the yard, and I just widened it a bit.

Whenever our family comes over for a visit, my grandsons and their friends make believe this is a “jungle track” and spend a lot of time walking and running up and down it among the plants. The brom's have taught them which plants they can and can't touch (ouch!) and they spend a lot of time in there with their imaginations running wild.

One day they asked if they could go down “the jungle track” as they call it and after they had gone and were about halfway along it, I called out, “just be careful of my pet crocodile in there”, well, you never saw three kids move so quickly, they came out of there like a shot from a gun.

Trish, I don't know how a Mango tree would go as we don't have them down here and I've never had any experience with them (except eating them, when I can afford it) so maybe some of our other growers up there in "Mango Country" could offer better advise to you . I do know that another tree which in the past I thought would be unsuitable to grow brom's and orchids on is the Frangipani tree. I was surprised to see one in a friends back yard covered in small Neo's and Tillandsias so I guess we learn something new every day.

I've been giving some more thought to Shirley's Neo. 'Bold Streak' x Mc Williamsii and now think that cross may be a bit "unstable" which would explain the different markings, and then on the other hand, those plants could also be sports as a lot of plants will throw a sport or two which is different to the mother plant. I haven't seen this happen with my plants of that name, but then I've only grown it for a couple of years so maybe someone else with more experience growing this plant over a longer period can add more to this conversation; what about you if you're reading this Jen?.

Shirley - Regarding your plant named Neo. 'Bold Streak' x Mc Williamsii; it may also be one of the many unregistered “look-a-likes” which someone has just put that name on because it looks similar to the original. There are quite a few of these “radial red” types around which have mainly come from crossings using Neo 'Rosea Striata', in fact I did a cross myself (Neo. 'Rosea Striata' x 'Bea Hanson') which eventually produced about twenty of these types and at this stage I still have ten which I am growing on. (See pic's 1-5 showing these seedlings and their varying colours when they were young)

There is also a plant which has been getting around the Northern NSW and Queensland area for a few years now and it is registered as Neo 'Blake Street Beauty' and I initially thought this may have been the plant I originally got from Jen as Neo. 'Bold Streak' x Mc Williamsii and that her plant may have been still carrying the formula name and not the registered name. However when I started to delve into these radial red types further, I found that there are many of similar appearance from different crossings, some registered and some not; so I guess we'll never know which is which for sure, but do we really care? After all, they are all beautifully marked plants which I am sure we like to have in our collections anyway.
To see a pic of the original registered Neo. 'Blake Street Beauty', go to: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=10191#10191

I must say you have done a wonderful job of growing your little Neo 'Small World'. It's a beautiful little plant with lovely round shape and nice wide leaves which only adds to the great “filled-in” shape. This one along with 'Break of Day', 'One and Only' and a couple of others which I can't remember just now are all beautiful plants of small size and a pleasure in anyone's collection..

Sue – If you would like to email me a pic of your Aechmea NOID (so it doesn't have the DG copyright mark on it) along with the growing conditions e.g. degree of light it was grown under etc. I can post it on a couple of the brom forums I visit and see if I can get a name for you, even if you can get some extra pic's from different angles and a close-up of the leaf will help also with attempting an ID.

Regarding Neo. 'Smithii' I have found the same thing as you. Mine are also slow growers and initially I though I may have a “crook clone“or I may have been a "crook grower" so I got a couple of others from different growers, one from Vic. and one from Qld. and the result is the same, still very slow growers, that's why I've been reluctant to try it in any breeding programme although I know that Lisa Vinzant of Hawaii has bred some beautiful smaller type Neo's using 'Smithii' hybrids as parents, so maybe the second generation from it are better growers. see http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3256#3256

Once again you show a great example of just how much different degrees of light can change the appearance of a plant. If we were all seeing those two plants for the first time I'm sure we all would think they were different plants. This is a good example of what to consider when trying to ID a plant also as its appearance depends greatly on where it was grown, which is all info that should be given when seeking ID.

That pic of you Nidularium NOID looks a bit like my Nid. 'Madonna', I know they do vary a bit in flower colour depending on where they are grown but it does look similar to mine. There was also a Nid. Longiflorum x Madonna getting around down here for a while which looks similar also, but Nid's just don't seem to have taken off down here, I don't know why as I think they are great plants and especially good for those difficult shady areas.

That's it for me today all the best, Nev.

Pic's are of five of the Neo 'Rosea Striata' x 'Bea Hanson' seedlings.

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ianperry

December 30, 2012
12:49 AM

Post #9370287

Hi all, I arrived home safely at about 4 pm this afternoon. A bit if rain has been around keeping things a bit moist and most of my plants appear to be ok. I did collect a few on my trip home and will try to photo them tomorrow. 984 km trip home and that is a good enough days work for me. I have unpacked but not sorted out things as yet.
Have a good one.
Ian
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 30, 2012
1:40 AM

Post #9370290

Hi Everyone!

Well we experienced another scorcher of a day here in paradise so I got up early and continued weeding the front garden bed where I had to keep chasing the shade to shelter under as it was too overwhelming to work in the sun. The neighbours next door had the exact same idea just that they ran out of shade to hide under so they went back inside. Anyway I should have the front garden bed done this arvo as I want to relocate some brom’s to the area as well as inject some more colour into the garden.

Hi Bree glad to hear you like my Vr. ‘Splendrite’, I luv it but find it to be such a slow grower. I only have the one and it is yet to pup, I would like to get more of these to place in the garden because they really do stand out even when not in flower.

Bree nice pic of your Neo ‘Bold Streak x Mcwilliamsii’, yours has great markings and colour more so than mine.

Hi Shirley pleased to hear your feeling much better, sounds like you have been very busy in the garden; isn’t it a great feeling when you get tasks out the way and things are nice and tidy in the garden. We noticed too that everything is growing so quickly, even the dead patches of lawn in the garden have nearly mended with the beautiful rain we experienced the grass is growing back nice and quick. We decided not to mow this weekend just to give the grass time to grow a bit more and for new roots to take hold.

Shirley your pic of Neo ‘Small World’ is so nice, what a beautiful compact shape it has and I really like the multitudes of markings all over it as well as its colour and pink tips.

Hi Sue yeah definitely making the most of our time off, especially since all the visitors have gone, it’s nice to have everything back in order where I can go and spend quality time out in the garden. Joe wanted to spend some time with me so sat outside on a chair in a shady spot in the garden with the laptop watching me weed my brom garden bed lol, I really enjoyed his company and chatted madly to him until he went back inside because the battery was going dead on the laptop lol. We too have been using the pool a lot, we jump in at least 3 or 4 times a day when we are off, it’s handy for cooling off when you are in the garden all day as the heat really knocks me around especially because of the amount of time I try to stay in the garden.

Speaking of water, today I managed to hose the inside of our house LOL when I dragged a garden hose around to the front garden bed I had weeded to do some watering and went around to turn it on a little bit (but turned it on more than I had thought) but did not realise the hose nozzle was pointed at our front entry door which was open, I scared the crap out of Joe who was sitting on his lazy boy chair when water started hitting one of the walls and water started to flood the entry way, that’s when I heard Joe yelling loud enough for the neighbours to hear “What the hell are you doing” LOL. Next time I will have to remember to throw him a cake of soap, some shampoo and conditioner so he does not even have to get out of his seat LOL.

Yeah Sue I suppose I do feed my broms a bit lol but it is all over the show and depends on how I feel and what I see when checking them. I definitely feed the pups I buy or separate and I always feed my Vrieseas as I know they benefit from it. I am very careful with my mature Neo’s though and would prefer just giving them a fresh pot of brom mix rather than fertilise them, but again it depends on how I feel when I check on their progress and if I feel they need a little food I give it to them but at all costs I try not to feed them too much or this might strip them of their colour.

Sue luved all your brom and orchid pics, especially was interesting to see vriesea ospinae var gruberi’s grown in different light conditions, I find them to be such an interesting vriesea because they are so different to all my others in the way their leaves look so thick and rubbery. I am just starting to feed mine more to see if this makes a difference to their drooping leaves as they always appear thirsty or hungry to me and I can’t help but worry about them lol.

Hi Nev luved reading about your grandsons and the “jungle track”, sounds like they have hours of fun and it will be something they will remember for the rest of their lives. I remember as a kid picking wild berries in Bordeaux - France in what to me was a magical forest full of thick mist and fog, I truly believed this forest was where fairy’s lived because it was such a magical place to me full of many trees, moss growing on everything and I will never forget the smell of the earth, decomposing leaf matter and the beautiful smell of the trees. The berries I have never tasted anything like them since and whenever I do eat berries it reminds me of the beautiful magical forest I discovered as a child in Bordeaux.

Nev I have a Till growing in our Mango Tree but it is growing on its own bit of wood, I wonder if it would grow just as happy attached to the Mango Tree, maybe one day I will give it a go and report back to everyone? Joe has some Bush Orchids growing in the centre of the tree and they appear to be content, growing and they flower well. I just have not tried any of my other bromeliads that do well in trees yet, I suppose as my collection expands I may have to try other options.

Nev, Joe and I were only commenting the other day that we get more of a reaction out of children when it comes to gardening then we do out of the adult friends we have, a good majority of them just can’t be bothered in doing any form of gardening other than mowing because they have to and some of them do not have any hobbies what so ever. I can’t imagine life without my garden, my bromeliads or hobbies. Children are great because they take in a lot and want to learn about things, they are like sponges, so over the time they stayed I had them out in the garden teaching them things and answering all their questions and when I was inside cooking something they all wanted to help and you could see they were so proud that they had made something from scratch rather than out of a packet. I had them picking fresh herbs out of the garden and showed them what we would cook them with and I had them picking vegetables out of the garden to eat fresh/raw and they were amazed that they had come from the garden and not a grocery store. Anyway by the time our visitors were ready to leave the kids did not want to go to their holiday destination where they had plans to go horse riding, snorkelling etc, the kids got very upset wanting to stay with us and pleaded with their parents to stay with us, one of them even cried and chucked a tantrum when they got told to get in the car. To be honest I had more fun with the kids than I did the adults because with the kids we interacted, with the adults they preferred just to sit, drink, smoke cigarettes and ignore the kids. I just can’t sit for that long or I go steer crazy and as much as I luv my friends and don’t want to be rude I just have to sometimes get up and do something to keep myself motivated otherwise all I want to do is go to sleep lol. Lucky all my friends know how I am and appreciate how precious home time means to me and often we could be sitting outside having a cup of tea and I am pulling weeds out of my brom pots lol. Maybe I am just a big kid at heart lol?

Hi Ian welcome back must feel great to be home, look forward to seeing pics of your new brom purchases.

Hi to anyone else looking in and anyone on the Sick List, we miss hearing from you all.

Take care and Happy Gardening Everyone!

Trish

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ianperry

December 30, 2012
2:33 AM

Post #9370296

Hi all, I have arrived home after a 984km drive to a bit of rain, actually it was with us for the last 200km but that is alright. On of the plants I got today is a healthy Deuterochnia. I guess that the next thing to do is to look up growing conditions and to find out how this programme works. I cannot remember what other plants I bought except that I got a Bil hallelujah that has no colour because of where it has been growing. I hope I can get it to multiply. This is a test run
I met Blade when I got home today.
Ian
That works
Pic 1 Seedlings transferred into a 5l container for growing on in dry conditions like Dalby, another experiment.
Pic 2 Vriesia dunno

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 30, 2012
3:17 AM

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Ian your Pic 2 Vriesea dunno looks like Vr. 'Tiger Tim', looks like you got a good deal to as appears to be more than one in the pot - bargain.

Night all!

Trish

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 30, 2012
4:49 AM

Post #9370324

Hi all, we had a bit of a lazy day here today, it was overcast and very windy. We had family visit us this morning and I felt really tired after they left. I opted for a nanny nap after lunch but slept for hours … guess I needed it. I did a bit of watering late this afternoon and righted a few pots that had been blown over and there were some big, heavy ones too, fortunately no real damage to plants.

Sue, the difference in the colour of your vr Ospinae grown in different light conditions is amazing.

Nev, there are some very nice seedlings in your pics. Just out of curiousity, how long ago were they planted.

Ian, good to hear you arrived home safe and sound and with some new plants to add to your collection. Is Blade your new grandson?

Trish, sounds like you just HAD to get Joe out of his lazy boy chair and on his feet but a bit extreme hosing the inside of your house to achieve it. Hope there wasn’t too much of a mess to clean up.

I am hoping to get some serious brom time tomorrow. Catch up tomorrow night.

Pics are 1 vr Sunset, 2 neo Forbidden

Bye for now, Shirley



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perke_patch

December 30, 2012
5:38 AM

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Hi everyone. sorry to have been awol for a few days. Just couldn't face everyone after our sad loss. had a few early nights with a book instead. we had a good last day with Max on Friday knowing the vet was coming about 5pm. His last night with us was pretty difficult for Johnny as he had Max pawing the bed as though he was asking for help but there was nothing we could do for him to help with his breathing. then Friday morning he had another majoy nose bleed which made the decision for us that it was time. after sleeping off the nose bleed he was right as rain by the time the vets arrived at 4.30. He rushed out and greeted them with wagging tail. But they were absolutely incredible, taking the time to make friends with Max and make him comfortable with them. the one with the tackle box full of needles and medicines had a drawer full of liver treats so every time he got something out of it Max anticipated another liver treat. While he was inserting the canula Max had a nice pile of liver treats between his legs to concentrate on. And the rain was falling the whole time they were here. Anyway we now only have to break our habits. For example I cooked 4 large chops last night for tea... 1 for Johnny, 1 for me and 2 for Max. Never even thought till I was dishing up and realised there were extras and no Max to eat them. Then when we went shopping and I chose a tray of steak with 3 in it Johnny said we only needed 2 now. In the habit of getting one for Max. so those are the times when we really miss him. Also this morning when we got up I stayed in the room to strip and remake the bed before coming out for a cuppa. I found Johnny sitting downstairs as it was too windy on the verandah. Anyway he was by himself down there and I could see he didn't like being alone with no Max to talk to. I'll have to remember to get out there to talk to him instead of have him sitting there thinking too much. Anyway we had the whole family (except Paul in Hervey Bay) around tonight for a BBQ to farewell Max. The little ones kept talking about Max being in the heaven farm now. Emily is convinced that animals go to live on a farm when they can't be with us anymore.

Back to broms. Nev I checked on your link to Blake Street Beauty and was intrigued to see "alleged to be sport of manoa beauty". even though they finally registered it they still don't believe it is a sport. I saw that striped pup on a manoa beauty and a lot of other respected brom growers saw it also at Phyllis Hobbs place but because she removed the pup before taking the picture of it with its mum they said they couldn't be sure it came from that plant. I know it did as Blake street is in Cleveland where Phylis lives. anyway we now have a blake street beauty which threw 3 pups all totally different and one of them looked very similar to Shirley's "bold streak x mcwilliamsii" with the irregular stripes including big chunks of solid red stipes. I'll find the pic I took of them. (can't find one but I'll keep looking)

Ian I also think your vrisea is a tiger tim. lucky you getting one of those. I've been potting out seedlings like your tray. I either thin them out a bit and transplant into a tray like you did or I transplant the whole of a small tub into a larger tray to give them more growing room. also I've found the deeper round tubs have been too hot with little air flow around the base of the seedlings and they have rotted off so I've been transplanting what hasn't perished into rectangular trays. lost a lot of billbergia seedlings. I thought the deeper round tubs would provide support for the taller billbergia seedlings till I could pot them up but they have simply fallen apart when I tried to repot them. those that I had already thinned out weeks ago are growing nicely but any left in these round tubs are mostly gone now. lesson learned.

Nev I love your 'rosea striata x beau hansen' seedlings especially the little dark one bottom corner of pic 3 and also pic 4. I know I have some of these seedlings so i'll have to have a close look at them tomorrow. I have pics to download tonight but running out of time to do it so I think that will be a job for tomorrow night although we will have the girls so the office might be a bedroom so we'll see if I get computer access.

Pic 1 is a canistrum/edmundoi lindenii seedling grown from seed of the variegated one. shoe is placed to show size. this one I potted up quite some time ago and fed so it has matured way faster than others still in smaller pots. pic 2 is same plant flowering now. I love the mottled leaf patterns on these.

I've done a lot of potting up of seedlings this week but pics are still in the camera so I'll leave them for another night.

Hope you all have a lovely new years eve tomorrow. I'm sure we will be busy with the girls and look forward to getting at least one of them to bed early. maybe Emily will be able to stay awake long enough to share the fireworks with Pa as he won't have Max to go down to the boat ramp to watch them with him. we might just have to go to bed instead and ignore them.

Night all.
Wendy

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perke_patch

December 30, 2012
5:42 AM

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Sue this pic is one that Leisa D identified for me when it flowered. it is nid innocentii var paxianum which she had photographed in a botanical garde in Germany when she was there. she was trawling through photos on her laptop when she was in hospital that last time and came across it. I had posted a pic when it flowered and it didn't look like the other longiflorums we had. I think I gave you a pup of it because of the Leisa link after she died. that is possibly how you came to have it.

Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 30, 2012
11:32 AM

Post #9370614

Hi everyone -Sorry but I have to rush this morning so just a few pic's and I'll be back later,

Pic.1 is (sorry) an orchid, Stanhopea Tigrina - it's a fascinating plant which flowers out the bottom of the pot/basket and has a very strong smell of vanilla.

After Wendy posted a pic of her Ae. Caudata variegata a while back, I went looking for mine which I said had never flowered. Well guess what? They are both flowering now. They are two differetnt clones and growing in different areas and different light intensities. Pic.2 Ae. Caudata variegata #1, Pic.3 Ae Caudata variegata #1 inflorescence, Pic.4 Ae Caudata variegata #2, and Pic.5 Ae Caudata variegata #2 inflorescence.

All the best, Nev.

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 30, 2012
12:07 PM

Post #9370650

Good morning you lot.
Nev, it is great how kids like a path way! I have lots of tracks through the gardens, just for access and usually designed by the dogs. Kids love them, and run around when ever they are here.
As for Mango trees as suitable mounts for bromeliads, I can't see why not? They do lose leaves regularly, so it would be wise to clean out the brom tanks on occasion. I think for Tillandsias, they would be perfect.
Thanks for your offer about putting the pics up for ID. I will have to wait for the plant I have to mature a bit more, as the flowering ones went to the markets last week, and I have one left with a new spike. I have plenty of non-flowering ones yet, so I can at least photograph leaves e.t.c.
I looked up Nidularium 'Madonna' on the photo index, but it looks to have alot of spines on both flower and leaf. have you noticed that on the ones you have seen? I have had at least a dozen flowering Nidulariums, (N. rutilans, N. longiflorum, N, 'Leprosa', and N. 'Nana') on my sales table for two months. They are beautiful! but don't sell. most of my customers seem to be looking for sun hardy broms.
Ian, what a huge trip you had. I bet you were stuffed after that? i have had Deuterachonias in the past. They like it hot and dry! I flowered one,and collected seed, but they didn't germinate
SEED! I just remembered, I got seed from Aechmea 'Blush' (an orange recurvata) would anyone like some? The pods were huge, and extremely hard to squeeze the seed from.
Trish, I use my garden as an escape sometimes. If we have visitors and I have had enough and need a break, watering is always a good excuse! Although, I do mine outsied the house! LOL
Try your Vriesea ospinae gruberis with a soil based mix, even straight potting mix, to keep a bit more moisture in. You might find the leaves will stay perky. I don't worry about mine too much, but I water the brom house every three days at this time of the year, so I make sure I give them a bit more than a splash, and I get the hose under the leaves to make sure the soil in the pot gets wet.
I loved your description of berry picking in Bordeaux. I can almost smell the forest earth e.t.c. Were you holidaying or did you spend time there growing up?
Shirley, it sounds as though you needed the sleep. Sometimes our bodys know exactly what we need. Its the right time of year for afternoon naps! (might try one myself later if I want to see in the new Year.) I hope you get your brom time today, and look forward to a few photos.
Wendy, it sounds like you made the hard descision at the right time, and you had a wonderful vet too, by the sounds. Lucky Max. It sounds like he was a very well fed bloke too! heh heh. I'm sure you will think of him fondly for many years to come, with little reminders cropping up from time to time. The ones you love never really leave. Keeping Johnny occupied sounds like a good idea, and a fishing trip away might be the go?
The Nidularium photo looks like the variegated one previously ID'd as Nid. innocentii var striatum, but without the variegation. The last one I posted had more solid colour to the bracts, but in shape and all else, very similar to yours. I got mine in the new collection I purchased, and had put it in with the longiflorums because the leaf is similar. It was only at flowering that I noticed it was somewhat different.
Photo one is the A. recurvata 'Blush' seed pods.HUGE!
Photo two is Tillandsia 'Creation' coming into spike, although it not very big yet.
Photo three and four were both bought as Guzmania 'Conifera' which is right?
I hope everyone enjoys seeing in the new year.
Sue

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 31, 2012
2:19 AM

Post #9371055

Hi Everyone!

It’s been raining pretty much all day long apart from this morning when we took the girls for a walk on the beach at about 6am. I only did about a half hour of gardening in the front yard pruning back our hibiscus trees and then the rain came pelting down sideways with the wind and in a few seconds I was drenched from head to toe, normally I luv gardening in the rain but I actually started feeling really cold with the wind and being in wet clothes did not help so I ended up calling it quits for the day and left a pile of hibiscus cuttings in the front yard to collect tomorrow which is not like me at all as normally I clean as I go and don’t like to leave any mess to wake up to the next day. We also went for a quick dip in the pool at about 6pm but again it was just too cold for me and I got sick of chasing to find pockets of warm water, but hey what a good bit of rain we are getting with more heading our way by the look of the weather radar.

I also collected a fair bit of rainwater in containers so I could give all my vriesea’s in our entertainment area a good drink as I know how much they benefit from it. I think we will look at getting rainwater tanks installed in a year or two given the sheer amount of water we use around the garden, and the more our orchid and brom collection grows the more water we will consume and if we are not careful it is really going to burn a huge hole in our pockets. Having a swimming pool also does not help matters. We do have a bore but it has been dry since about March, today is the first good bit of rain we have had for a long time.

So really it has been an indoor sports day today, watched a couple of movies, did a bit of reading, looked at my brom books and watched the rain and a bit of a storm we had.

Hi Shirley hope you got to spend quality time with your bromeliads today like you wanted, unfortunately the rain had other ideas for me today so I just had to admire them from afar looking at them through glass windows but it gave me time to sit and read my brom and gardening books and I felt like I really relaxed and even snuck in a little nanna nap in there somewhere which did me the world of good.

Shirley nice Pic 1 of your Vr. Sunset in flower, mine is yet to show signs of flowering and no signs of it pupping yet. Do you have any pups on yours yet? I brought mine from an orchid show we went to in Ingham after seeing one on display that had one first prize, it was huge, beautiful and in flower and brought a mature pup for about $10 because I really liked how different it was to some of the other vrieseas I had started collecting and I luved all its bright colours. Shirley also really liked your Pic 2 of Neo ‘Forbidden’, like how it displays those long and short leaves.

Hi Wendy nice to see you back and posting nice brom pics, also sounds like you have been very busy potting up lots of seedlings.

Hi Nev I hope you had a great day, sounds like you were in a bit of a rush this morning. Your Pic 1 Stanhopea Tigrina orchid looks stunning and I can imagine that the vanilla perfume it produces would be pretty intense but lovely. Some of the orchids that Joe has in our nursery floods the place with the smell of vanilla when in flower and the smell wafts through the house when the doors are open.

Hi Sue thanks for your feedback regarding Mango Trees and growing broms on them, I will have to give it a go in 2013 once we have had someone over to cut it back a bit as it is getting way too big and we really want to keep it a nice shape and manageable size.

Sue thanks also for your great advice regarding my Vr. ospinae gruberis, I will give this a try most definitely and let everyone know how they go.

Sue my grandma who passed away many years ago lived in Bordeaux all her life and lived to the ripe old age of 98. We used to visit her as kids and take long walks along the roads amongst the beautiful hills and would pick these beautiful wild berries in the forest. I was actually born in France at a place called Nice. We moved to Australia when I 4yrs old, we went back to visit when I was 7 and we have not been back since but I would like to go back and visit and show Joe where I was born and go back to Bordeaux to visit my grandma’s place and pick wild berries in the forest with him if the forest is still there which my cousins assure me it still is.

Sue those seed pods of your Ae. Recurvate ‘Blush’ are HUGE not at all what you would expect to be produced from this sized brom.

Would anyone happen to have the following broms that I have been chasing for a while, Neo ‘Exotica Velvet’, Neo ‘Exotica Satin’ and Neo ‘Exotica Pink Dawn’? I never see these on EBay or anywhere? Reading my brom books reminded me that I have been chasing these for years along with Neo ‘Reverence’ that I mentioned before.

Hi to anyone else looking in and anyone on the Sick List, we miss hearing from you all.

Wishing you all a very Happy New Year, I am looking forward to chatting with you all in 2013. I have my favourite bottle of champagne ready to pop I just hope we can stay awake long enough to enjoy it LOL.

Take care and Happy Gardening Everyone!

Trish

Pic 1 – Vr. Hieroglyphica Hybrid
Pic 2 – Neo ‘Maya’
Pic 3 – Neo ‘Jean Evans’
Pic 4 – Vr. ‘Zapita’

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ianperry

December 31, 2012
3:05 AM

Post #9371062

Hi all, and a happy New year to all. Ah so peaceful to be home and as a late xmas present it has been raining on and off since last night. I don’t know how much we have had but it seems to be watering the plants. It is still showering now at 8.43pm on the last day of this year.
Friday last week I taught a couple of people to collect, prepare and sew seeds from Ae family and tried to describe collection with Neo’s as well. I am sharing what i know to help others.
Thanks for Identifying Vr Tiger Tim for me. It has a couple of pups on it and it came from Bunnings, the only plant worth buying from that store at that time. Well that is my opinion anyway.
Yes Blade is my Grandson and he is a quiet baby, how could I be so lucky. I expected to have sleepless nights and as yet this is not the case.
Sue I would love to try Ae Blush from seed.
Nev I think the C class loco was fully restored before being parked up. It is in the Miles museum.
Today with the rain and due to the fact that I have been away I thought it time to pot up some seedlings,some Canistrum burchellii, Portea petropoliana var extensa and some unknown Ae that I planted on 24-06-12. Some of these are 4”high so into pots some went, more tomorrow with luck rain or no rain.The weather is the boss until Grandson gives voice.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae gigantea
Pic 2Canistrum monatanum
Pic 3 Quesnelia liboniana?


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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 31, 2012
6:01 AM

Post #9371137

Hi everyone, a very quick message tonight ...

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL

Catch up soon, bye for now

Shirley

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 31, 2012
6:03 AM

Post #9371139

Hi Nev and Sue,

I beat you both to post this morning LOL

Have a good one,

Shirley
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

December 31, 2012
12:39 PM

Post #9371485

a new thread for a new years.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1292392/

Geeze Shirley. I would have had to get on before bed to beat you!
I trust everyone has seen in the new year with a drink or some celebration?
I had a late one, but am not able to sleep much passed daylight, so will have to get in a nanny nap later in the day.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Trish, it sounds like you had a mostly productive day, and to get some rain is a nice start to the new year. Your Vriesea heiroglyphica hybrid look large! Its very attractive too.
Neo. 'Exotica Velvet' is around in Australia. It was tissue cultured though, and doesn't have the striations that you see in Andrew Steens book. I'm not sure that there are any original pups floating around, although the tissue cultured one is a nice deep plum colour, and its quite a large brom. I bought a brom off Ebay, labelled "Exotica Satin' even though I was sure it wasn't. I did quizz the seller about its background, and got the standard 'I bought it from a reputable seller' in reply, but I think its N. rosea striata or somethng similar. Anyway, I didn'y buy it for its name and didn't pay a real lot for it, so nothing lost.
I hope you get back to Bordeaux to pick wild berries one day.
Ian, I'm not sure if you have the right name for the first photo in your post. It looks more like a Vriesea. Aechmea giantea is a big tubular plant that gets a flower, (like A. fasciata) deep down in the centre. I think you are right with Quesnelia liboniana, as the foliage looks about right. Lucky you to have such a good grandson.
Anyway all, Pop on over to the new thread and lets keep this going for another year.
Sue
V. splendens in Leisas garden.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

January 2, 2013
2:09 PM

Post #9373363

Hi everyone, My computer has finally died and I don't know when I'll get another. I'm just sending this brief mssage from a friend's computer so you won't all think I don't want to talk to you anymore.

I'll be back on the forum as soon as I possibly can as I enjoy our communications very much; in the mean time, have a Happy New Year!

All the best, Nev.

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