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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 11, 2012
5:37 PM

Post #9355884

While some caladiums can tolerate the sun, they all perform beautifully in the shade. I love how they brighten spots that have only brief morning sun - like this spot. The photo was taken at 8:19 AM on August 3rd and you can see the shade creeping in already at the left side. Hosta and some other plants do well here but it's the caladiums that are the star attraction.

Bill of Caldium Bulbs 4 Less has his Classified Ad on DG now and is giving a 15% discount to all of us when we use his code for our order. Here's his ad. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1289645/

Be sure to check out his "collections" of every kind. I ordered (among other items) the rare collection and it is 5 bulbs each of four different (separately bagged) caladiums that you won't see in most gardens.

In the past I have bought from other places (I am a blonde!) but after growing Bill's caladiums I'm totally hooked on them.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2013
2:39 AM

Post #9372917

Beautiful pix Pirl.Is that Gingerland?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

January 2, 2013
5:54 AM

Post #9372982

Yes, and that's where I'll always have Gingerland.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2013
6:10 AM

Post #9372997

What is the dark leaved plant with it? coleus?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

January 2, 2013
7:44 AM

Post #9373065

The one you introduced to me: Lancelot Velvet Mocha!

I tried many others with Gingerland but LVM won, hands down.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 2, 2013
8:38 AM

Post #9373104

I need to put that old friend on my RD order.Tanks for the reminder
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

January 2, 2013
9:27 AM

Post #9373159

You're welcome!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

January 24, 2013
8:19 PM

Post #9396813

Time is running out on Bill's offer of a 15% discount to all on DG so order if you haven't done so already. It's really a great deal.

Could $11.00 of any other plant brighten this area as well for as long as caladiums do? I doubt it.

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tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 6, 2013
7:24 PM

Post #9474163

pirl -- I forgot again!!

I happened to be out of town in January and missed this sale again.

I have a lady friend in Lake Placid, and she has offered to pick up my bulbs this year.
She is just wondering if the bulbs will be fine in a car for about a week, -- til she gets to WI.

Next year I will have to set a reminder to order in Jan... though DH seems to like to vacation then... I actually drove thru Lake Placid on my way to the Keys in Feb.

Terese

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2013
2:29 AM

Post #9474334

Terese:
Bulbs should be fine as long as they dont heat up too much in a car.
They shouldnt be left out to dry out.I have stored the unopened bags in a closet.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 7, 2013
5:38 AM

Post #9474405

I'd be more concerned with the coldness of the car each night for a week!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2013
5:48 AM

Post #9474414

Guess this goes down in the Risks we Take column.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 7, 2013
5:51 AM

Post #9474419

Yes!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2013
6:08 AM

Post #9474433

this friend of mine... she puts her car on a transport... so she is assuming it may get HOT in her car going from FLA to WI. I was thinking they'd be OK as long as they were not damp. [thinking they may start to grow with the heat and dampness. ]

I found Bill on FB and plan on dropping him an email.

But for next year, I'll set a reminder on my phone to remind me of his sale in Dec/Jan.

but boy oh boy... i can not wait until I'm a FLA resident... all the new plants I'll get to play with... 2 more yrs.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 7, 2013
6:28 AM

Post #9474456

I'd rely on Bill's reply.

I'm sure it will be exciting and you won't miss all the plants we, in the north, can grow...that can't be grown in "sunny FL"!

Each area of our wonderful country has its positives and negatives. It's up to us to dwell on the positives..."You've got to accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, latch on to the affirmative, don't mess with Mister In-Between..." Lyrics by Johnny Mercer (eons ago)

I bet JoAnn remembers the song!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2013
6:43 AM

Post #9474470

Groaaaaan Indeed I do.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 7, 2013
6:52 AM

Post #9474478

I'm glad to have such good company, JoAnn!

Seriously, attitude does matter!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 7, 2013
6:52 AM

Post #9474479

One thing I will miss ... all my hostas. I have some nice ones in IL... but we are keeping our WI place where I have about 100 or so named varieties.
but I will love that I can grow Salvias as perennials. but you are right... pros and cons to everywhere.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2013
7:05 AM

Post #9474495

What a great pair of gardens you will have.North and South.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 7, 2013
7:27 AM

Post #9474517

That really should be ideal.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

April 8, 2013
8:40 AM

Post #9475919

This week is supposed to be (very) warm, so I'm hoping my CB4L order arrives soon. I have been unable to reach Bill, but he is good about watching the temps before shipping. I could never take advantage of the discount despite the timely order on the website. It never keeps me from ordering and trying something new.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 8, 2013
9:01 AM

Post #9475941

I'm already too warm, Marcia!

I love trying caladiums I've never grown before. This year I ordered the "rare" collection and some FM Joyner...maybe some others - just can't remember.

Enjoy this great day!

The masons have arrived to change the path in the old vegetable garden and the head guy has a nicer design than what I wanted. I am SO excited!

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cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

April 8, 2013
10:10 AM

Post #9476007

Yay! It is going to be sooo nice.

Enjoy!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 8, 2013
10:29 AM

Post #9476037

I love a creative professional.So many just do what they think the client wants.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 8, 2013
11:23 AM

Post #9476112

Even the owner of the company didn't have the same idea as the head mason. He's great!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 8, 2013
12:13 PM

Post #9476170

That will be lovely.Serpentine is always a good visual.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 8, 2013
3:34 PM

Post #9476479

They're still here!

Yes, I like the serpentine but we can't do it in every garden. It wouldn't work along the driveway but that has a long natural curve to it anyhow.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

April 8, 2013
3:35 PM

Post #9476482

We paid a lot of money for a mason to do some work for us. It was worth every penny.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 8, 2013
3:41 PM

Post #9476491

It is worth it. Next they'll be doing a brick/paver pad outside the shed with a new ramp they'll make and then a triple walk in the garden out front.

This photo is from an online contractor's site but it's how one of the three parts of the front path(s) will be.

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tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 8, 2013
7:20 PM

Post #9476740

that is beautiful.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 8, 2013
7:49 PM

Post #9476794

Thanks. That will end up going much farther than the curve and will have another curve coming off of it.

As of 7 PM tonight, here's the redone path in the old vegetable garden, my new garden and I will have some lettuce as edging, maybe some peppers but no cukes or tomatoes in here!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 8, 2013
7:52 PM

Post #9476796

...and now the photo!

All of the current deer mesh will be replaced with metal but I can't remember what it's called. It's been a long day! New black poles will be used to hold the new fencing.

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cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

April 8, 2013
9:09 PM

Post #9476874

They completed a lot. Will surely be lovely. Will it keep out some of the deer also?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 9, 2013
5:17 AM

Post #9477094

Professionals know how to lay a foundation for stone that keeps the stone from heaving.along with other problems that non pros leave out due to the intense labor.
I loved designing this path using left over countertop for the flower-star detail.
Duering the season the stone shifted and flipped out in places.
Landscaper said the countertop wasnt thick enough to use that way.
Its not an impossible situation and I can live with it but wont use the leftovers in the new paths he will do soon.

Pirl: The gentle driveway curve is enough to carry the eye .Its just going to be beautiful.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2013
6:16 AM

Post #9477155

I was shocked. Laying the base took them from 8 AM until 4:36 PM. You can tell I was taking photos and they do show the time! "Intense" is putting it mildly! I had no idea this much work could go into the path. Now they're cutting pavers to fit the gaps, as I sit in my pajamas! I don't know the technical name of this pounder item that the guy is using here but they used it for a long time and many times. I'm impressed.

Love your detail, Jo Ann. It's a shame it didn't work out perfectly but I am glad you can live with it. I don't need "perfect" when it comes to using my ideas. There's something so personal about anything beautiful that we can create that I'd be thrilled with what you designed!

Could you get your contractor to create a stepping stone flower out of extras? With just one "landing pad" type of stepping stone, it just might be possible to form it up so it will withstand the weather. Doesn't cost anything to ask.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 9, 2013
6:23 AM

Post #9477159

I dont know the name of the pounder but its important for the base to drain and yet be nearly solid.We used "stonesand" its between sand and peagravel,has many sharp edges and once in pl;ace its hard to dig thru.
You can bet your walk wont shift or spread sideways over time and many people walking on it.
Stone is set on top of the bed and more stone stand is poured on and swept into the cracks.

I wish I was 30 years younger.Loved building stuff back when.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 9, 2013
6:24 AM

Post #9477162

Has anyone heard about the late Caladiums from Bill?
I have a late May order,hope its comming.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2013
6:34 AM

Post #9477175

Jo Ann -- I usually get my order in June. [zone4 in WI] Once I had to do a "gentle reminder" - but if i recall correctly, he was ill that year.
I'd give him a jingle or pop an email... I'm sure he'll get back to you asap. I've always had decent/timely email correspondence with him.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2013
7:10 AM

Post #9477238

I only get my caladiums after Mother's Day - my preference. I'd bet Bill is just busy.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 9, 2013
7:34 AM

Post #9477280

I need them by last week of May when I do my planters and the gift planters for GF's
He usually is on time.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2013
8:11 AM

Post #9477362

He has always been on time based on my experience. Why not Email him or call him?
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

April 9, 2013
8:13 AM

Post #9477365

I called twice and left an email, and never heard back, but I did not push it as he is probably overwhelmed or did not get the message.

I expect they should come to me in the next 2 weeks at most. Otherwise I will call again.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2013
8:14 AM

Post #9477369

Makes me concerned that something is amiss.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

April 9, 2013
8:40 AM

Post #9477405

his last post on FB was April 5th.
I'd imagine this is a busy time of the year.

Caladiums4Less

Caladiums4Less
Lake Placid, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 9, 2013
11:37 AM

Post #9477643

Hey Girls,

I'm here!!! I'm busier than a one armed paper hanger to say the least!! Trust when I say I'm watching the temps across the country VERY CLOSELY!! It's the Lows I watch too!!
Not to sound stupid but I could care less what the Highs are, it's the Low temps that I watch.

tcs - Call me hon at 863-465-2852 You know I WILL take care of you!!

Cathy - Your temps are still on the cold side but it won't be to much longer. I know you're all getting Spring fever!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, if you need to get a hold of me, email me at: CaladiumBulbs4Less@earthlink.net That is the best way to get in touch with me!!!!!

biLL
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 9, 2013
11:39 AM

Post #9477646

There's a reason why we feel Bill is the best!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 9, 2013
2:26 PM

Post #9477837

Glad you have our backs Bill.
marie_kap
Williamstown, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 12, 2013
6:07 AM

Post #9517637

My son was asking if he was still shipping,
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 12, 2013
6:18 AM

Post #9517656

Just got my box on Friday and it's as wonderful as always.
marie_kap
Williamstown, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 12, 2013
6:43 AM

Post #9517708

I got mine 2 weeks ago and some were sprouting in the bag. They got put in pots now.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 12, 2013
6:45 AM

Post #9517713

Mine were sprouted as well. Makes knowing which side goes down much easier than when they aren't sprouted!
HollyAnnS
Dover, PA
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2013
5:11 AM

Post #9519889

Did any of you get some of Bill's "Super Colossal" bulbs? They are huge can't wait to see them bloom.
We are having some unseasonably cold weather right now so I haven't gotten any of my bulbs planted yet. I picked up some different varieties for hanging baskets this year.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 14, 2013
6:41 AM

Post #9519980

He did send me a few to try and they are HUGE. I'll take photos later.
HollyAnnS
Dover, PA
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2013
7:16 AM

Post #9520031

Our official frost free date is May 15th but usually we are usually safe by Mothers Day I only remember once before when we had frost after MD. Last two nights it was in the 30's last night we had heavy frost and the water in the wheelbarrow and rain gauge froze. I got my bulbs before the cold snap and can't wait to get them planted. Another couple of days and it should be safe to get them in the pots.
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2013
7:49 AM

Post #9520079

Too cold for caladiums to be outdoors. The bulbs already potted have been residing in the car. Pure entertainment.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Leesburg, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 20, 2013
4:17 PM

Post #9527551

I finally ordered mine... .just been to busy to do so... I asked for a delivery of this week, as I leave for Vancouver on June 3rd.

only got two types this year. White Queen and Florida Cardinal.

I'm really hoping that if i make it to FLA next winter, i get a chance to swing by. I stay about an hour away.

Terese

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