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grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 17, 2012
6:09 AM

Post #9360471

I am starting a new bed and want to try one of the ones that use rotted wood as a base layer but I can't remember the name of it ..Kinda sound German PLEASE HELP joe
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

December 17, 2012
9:30 AM

Post #9360638

Hugelkultur
I tried a semi version of this and it worked pretty well and still is.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 17, 2012
2:50 PM

Post #9360888

Thank You
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 18, 2012
4:46 PM

Post #9361784

N3L I googled it and read a bunch of stuff and must admit I am intriqued by it so much so that today I started digging my very own hugelkulture ..I plan to dig down to the subsoil and make it 3x8 with 2"x12" boards for the sides ..I already have a bunch of rotted lumber left over from some raised beds that I am rehahing after 10 years of service I guess it was time to replace them ..Thanks again joe
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

December 18, 2012
5:13 PM

Post #9361800

I used rotten fire place logs that had been out in the elements for too many years plus I added lots of kitchen and yard scraps on top of the logs. Made some really nice dirt. Not sure if it holds moisture better or not though.
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 26, 2012
4:54 AM

Post #9367249

In my experience it does retain moisture. I soaked the wood in a rain barrel before burying it in the bed.
If the soil is too dry and there is no rainfall to saturate the soil, the wood will never be moist.

Good luck Grits. It will be interesting to follow your success.
Incidentally, I have done these both in a dug pit and on the surface, building up from there.
I found little difference between the two. Kristi
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

December 26, 2012
7:24 AM

Post #9367356

Mine was a little of both, a slight depression but after all was added it was a shallow raised bed. I would do it again if I wanted another bed.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 26, 2012
12:39 PM

Post #9367654

A pretty hefty snowfall has put a stop to all garden activities for awhile , but Christi that is a reall good idea soaking the wood in a rain barrel i have a spare open top barrel that I could place next to thr hugelkulture bed and that would save a lot of hard work .. My other rain barrel that is in the front yard is totally enclosed to keep out skeeters ,but a hose would easily reach from it to one placed right bt the bed ...
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 26, 2012
5:34 PM

Post #9367916

Just to soak it before burying. Once it is buried, the moisture won't evaporate out and I found the plant roots would find their way into the rotting wood for moisture. Do keep us posted please?
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 27, 2012
3:43 AM

Post #9368165

I will post some pix as I do more work on it ,I think that as soon as the snow melts I will start adding the wood since it is a fairly deep hole I can just use the hole as a soaking spot would have to add some rocks as weight to hold the wood down..I mainly dug the hole so as to have dirt to cover the wood otherwise would be forced to purchase it (shudder)
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 27, 2012
3:48 AM

Post #9368169

lol ~ that is what makes me feel good. To make use of what we have and be less of a consuming society.

Hoping your snow melts quickly. I know it is fun to see at Christmas but after growing up in the north, I personally have seen all I need to. Heading to the north tomorrow and praying for warm weather through the weekend but I know better.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 27, 2012
4:04 AM

Post #9368180

Do,know which way you are headed but fozen precip in our forecast tomorrow at least form McAlester east to Arkansas Be carefull
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 27, 2012
4:53 AM

Post #9368194

By air this time but thanks for the thought. I am dreading driving in MN with snow on Friday. It has been too many years but at least they get it frequently and try to keep the roads open.

Your area is probably similar to ours when it ices. The roads are nigh on to impassible. Most folks stay home. The highway dept sands the bridges and the hills and pulls folks out of the ditches.

Looking forward to springtime. lol
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 30, 2012
7:12 AM

Post #9370429

Yesterday I added some of the wood did not soak any as all the rain barrels are frozen except for one open top barrel that I keep the ice broken up so the birds will have a place to get water.. the wood that was just laying around was frozen to the ground but a good solid tap will breack it lose 16 here this morning under fair skies but I do notice some high clouds starting to move in..

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

December 30, 2012
9:30 AM

Post #9370522

Tennesse was cold too- 30*- the wind is what hurts. roads are clear , skies are blue, and grits? Did you read on that thread abt the hugelkelter beds abt some wood might not be good? Just wondering, as I had read up on it once upon a time
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 30, 2012
12:55 PM

Post #9370689

YAH seems like wanut or any really dense wood is npot good and said to never use Black locust which I knew better than to use it as unless it is starting to rot it will sprout and i am being carefull not to put any roots in them
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 30, 2012
1:10 PM

Post #9370698

this will be the beginning of my next hugelkulture if i can find the pic..OK i FOUND IT was a salad bed made to resemble a sun dial it is built around a stump of a catalpa tree all of the soil will be removed and replaced by wood and have the sides raised to 12" The large rock on top of the stump is a large piece of Quartz from Nevada

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

December 30, 2012
2:59 PM

Post #9370778

pretty- did you test the quartz for radiation? kidding, the rocks across the USA fascinate me too.
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 30, 2012
7:00 PM

Post #9370922

Hmmm frozen water is something I understand. Left Minnesota this a.m. at a negative - 2 degrees. Glad to be home and almost wanted to kiss the Texas ground. lol

Grits ~ from the air, we could still see the snow in Oklahoma. I keep telling myself spring is another day closer!
grits74571
Talihina, OK

December 31, 2012
5:58 AM

Post #9371132

Bet it looked better from the air than up close,A very light rain is falling here this morning so very soon i am getting dressed and going to the grocery store just in case it starts to freeze/snow..
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 31, 2012
6:03 AM

Post #9371138

Sorry... hoping it doesn't ice over for you. Bundle up and stay warm.

Happy New Years all... and sweet dreams of spring.
Moodene
(Nadine) Devers, TX
(Zone 9b)

January 1, 2013
7:25 PM

Post #9372779

Well I am traveling back to Texas tomorrow from Laramie, Wy. Left Texas on Dec.23- made it to Mountain Home,ID on Dec 26 after midnight traveling the last miles going 20 miles an hour!! took forever. Left Idaho on Dec 31 n hopefully be in Texas by nite fall on Jan 2,2013. Been sunshining all the way back n hopefully stays that way...

This message was edited Jan 1, 2013 9:28 PM

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 2, 2013
6:17 AM

Post #9373002

Mountain Home, windy. favorite stop Stage Stop, chuckle, Twin Falls more winds, Yup done those at 20mph... someone always seems to be driving that shouldn't be there...Laramie, the bottom of the Snowy Mounts on the western continental divide, black ice and 80 mph winds sneaking around Elk Mountain, are you dropping thru Denver? More winds, be safe...

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

January 2, 2013
7:45 AM

Post #9373067

Kitt,
You must have nerves of steel!

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 2, 2013
9:03 AM

Post #9373135

Its just my talent favors this. Love Wyoming but you cant be flatlander and take anything for granted. Colorado has beautiful places, but its just not home to me.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

January 2, 2013
1:56 PM

Post #9373348

Kitt I have been to every one of the places you named and I was never a truck driver just born with a bad case of wanderlust and the past year was the first in a very long time I have not made a cross country road trip Hugelkulture bed is coming along just fine just going very slow ,mostly because of the weather ..Today I drove over Winding stair Mountain and down to Poteau I spied a lot of down and rotting wood right by the hiway so that will likely be my next foray It will likely be a day or two before I get anymore work done on the bed as my pickup is in the shop(fuel pump) my man said it was very common on GM trucks after a 100k miles so no biggy

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 2, 2013
11:27 PM

Post #9373799

Before I learned to drive, our family did a lot of visiting each other- over to Boggy Depot, or Tishomingo to see the old swinging bridge under water(gone now many years), over to Mineol to visit my Uncles, or across the Hondo Valley an El Capitan to NM, if I went by myself on horse or in truck, i was always lookin for usable and plantables, chuckl, moms rule for bringing stuff home was not to bite it, and it had to stay outside. Now, I just wish for those times again.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

January 4, 2013
5:45 PM

Post #9375721

Got my pick up back today along with a hefty repair bill but the truck runs good once more and the bill was less than one month's payment would be on a new one

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 4, 2013
5:50 PM

Post #9375726

glad your truck is back, hang in there
grits74571
Talihina, OK

January 4, 2013
5:57 PM

Post #9375737

Kitt everything in Nevada has radiation (low level) even the water
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 6, 2013
8:58 PM

Post #9377726

Why?

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 6, 2013
10:20 PM

Post #9377757

Underground nuclear tests- also a tendency for high leukemia in folks, I know Grits, it isnt just Nevada deserts tho, that occurs a bit farther south too
grits74571
Talihina, OK

January 7, 2013
5:28 AM

Post #9377857

Why ??? I really cannot give a reliable answer but most folks tend to say it is because of the mining done as far back as the 1800s,there are old mine shafts every where and urainium is a naturally occuring part of the western USA I really don't think that the nuclear testing had much effect on the part of Nevada that I lived in as the testing was done at Yucca Flats far south of where I lived and prevailing winds are mostly from the west and north

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 7, 2013
5:38 AM

Post #9377859

Even in Barstow, Ca they have radiation in the surrounding area- DON'T drink the water...I tend to port my water in bottles- or boil, not that radiation is affected by boiling water...Yup, think also because the area was home to the ring of fire many things 'boiled up'. The Indian natives in the area keep preaching to the imports about NOT upsetting the balance of the desert (fm radio in the dead of night when only talk shows are on, sigh)
grits74571
Talihina, OK

January 14, 2013
6:56 AM

Post #9384455

Just a little update on the hugelkulture project, between the rain and snow I have managed to cover my Hugelkulture bed with the soil I removed at the start of the project,,Have some pix of every step as I went along ..I am curious as to how much it is going to settle am thinking the dirt will surely settle into the spaces between the chunks of wood I hope it does

kittriana

kittriana
Magnolia, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 14, 2013
8:20 AM

Post #9384533

It should settle some, and more later on- i would mound it some- esp since the wood is where the roots will pull Down to the watet.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

January 14, 2013
10:00 AM

Post #9384653

Mine settled quite a bit after it was planted.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

January 16, 2013
7:09 AM

Post #9386954

I figure it will be a couple of months before I plant anything in it so IF notice the big if we get spring rains then it should settle quite a bit ..My intiial plans are to make this first an Asparagas bed> put in one bed of Asparagas last spring and am very encouraged by the results ..Am very lucky in that the greenhouse where I buy most of my gardening stuff is owned by a man that did his Masters Degree at OSU and worked on the Asparagas trials so he has great insight into the growing of it''' here are some pix of it starting with bare ground and going to it being covered
bigbubbles
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 16, 2013
7:46 AM

Post #9387000

Great photos. I'm encouraged by them. I tried one of these last year and it wasn't looking like the illustration . Yours looks more like mine. I dragged a bag of composted manure onto the top of it a couple of weeks ago. Hope it further enriches the soil for spring planting.
grits74571
Talihina, OK

January 22, 2013
6:29 AM

Post #9393474

I have gotten started on my second Hugelkulture bed a couple of pix to get started today I willl level the bed and start the filling process..
bigbubbles
Austin, TX
(Zone 8b)

January 22, 2013
7:13 AM

Post #9393503

Lookin' good!

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 1, 2013
7:34 AM

Post #9404712

Very nice beds, Grits!

Hey, Sandy!

Sheila_FW

Sheila_FW
Fort Worth, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 1, 2013
1:44 PM

Post #9405128

Here is a link for those interested. http://www.richsoil.com/hugelkultur/
grits74571
Talihina, OK

February 6, 2013
3:33 PM

Post #9410542

Here be a couple of pix of the second bed it is finished now just need to wait before planting be easier to decide on what plants we should put there after everything greens up.. Okay can't find the pix BRB
grits74571
Talihina, OK

February 6, 2013
3:44 PM

Post #9410555

A lot of work went into this one just included the BBs so it did not look so empty
City_Sylvia
Dallas, TX

February 6, 2013
7:34 PM

Post #9410752

Hmmm sounds really interesting, I never heard of such a thing. I wish I could get the wood (tree roots)to rot that's already in the ground. When I dig we need a saw and a Ax.
Anyway I cant wait to see some finished products.

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