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juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

December 28, 2012
11:07 AM

Post #9369107

Wondering if any here are doing winter sow, flowers, trees, whatever? I did some early daylily, some coneflowers, some larkspur, Just looking for some discussion , fun , seeing what you all might have going..

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 7, 2013
6:13 AM

Post #9377887

Nothing for me -- I wont get started this year until March. So i'll probably only be doing Annuals this year.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 7, 2013
3:31 PM

Post #9378452

I'm putting together a list tonight of stuff I want to wintersow. Have to sort through my seeds. Mostly perennials I'm thinking. For sure, some columbine but not willing to start all of my Aquilegia 'Corbett' that way - maybe some. Too OCD to entrust my few collected seeds to wintersowing. I lack the experience. I also want to go through the list I saw for zone 5 of seeds that can be sown successfully on the wintersowing website I saw referenced on another thread. I saw a list on DG in the wintersowing forum but wasn't sure when that had been updated. I have some Belamcamda (blackberry lily) seeds that I might try. Should also have some larkspur somewhere. Wondering if this is a good method for trying to get old seeds to germinate.
MNWildflower
Kasota, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 15, 2013
12:33 PM

Post #9386112

Yes!! I am trying again this year. Last year I planted about 400 seeds in milk jugs & ended up with about 100 plants. I think they didn't do as well as I had hoped because we had such a MILD winter last year (& I didn't start my winter sowing until the middle of January). This year I had all my seeds out by the third week in December. I'm guesstimating I have about 600 seeds shivering in the cold right now. In all sorts of containers. I hope to have at least a 50% germination rate. Imagine 300 plants!!!! I live on two acres & I am slowly replacing most of the lawn with gardens. I can't wait for Spring!! :o)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 16, 2013
8:18 AM

Post #9387042

You put out 600 different seed varieties??? Or 600 seeds total? Going to get my WS done this weekend. Based on what the temps are next week, I think we'll have enough cold this year. I must say though that when I start seeds in the house that need stratification, I've never put them in the freezer, just in the fridge.
MNWildflower
Kasota, MN
(Zone 4a)

January 16, 2013
2:05 PM

Post #9387438

Oh my...600 different seed varieties, lol!! No, I'm not that ambitious :o) I just counted the seed packets. There were 47 packets...so maybe more than 600 seeds. My Mom gave me 14 of those large rubbermaid plastic storage bins. I drilled holes in the bottom for drainage & each bin has one packet of seed. I also had 52 milk jugs & an assortment of other clear plastic food containers that I had saved all summer. I can't wait for spring to see what germinates.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 17, 2013
7:32 AM

Post #9388029

Perhaps off topic (but that will not stop me now.) A long time ago when I lived in the city, was a kid, we had a neighbor who was overally proud of his front lawn. Spent a lot of time and money making sure no weed showed up. This being before some of the newer chemicals and lawn services. The perfect lawn. We were admonished if we walked onto it to get our errant ball. So, one year we collected as much Dandelion seed as we could and saved it up. During the winter we had mock snowball fights in our yard using seed laced snowballs that all wound up on his yard. Poor guy had a fit that next Spring.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 17, 2013
10:20 AM

Post #9388202

gasrocks - how funny. Winter sowing at its finest? Wonder what the success rate was.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 19, 2013
1:11 PM

Post #9390322

Finally got my winter sowing done this afternoon. Was motivated to get it done with the temps forecasted to fall later today. Since I only had 9 plastic jugs, I compartmentalized the interior space by standing rectangular plastic lids from luncheon meat containers on edge. I was able to get two or three separate spaces inside to make room for more seed varieties. I planted -
Lobelia syphilitica
Nicotiana alata
Nicotiana 'Lime Green'
Forget me nots
Echinacea 'Big Sky Sundown'
Echinacea 'Ruby Star'
Echinacea 'White Swan'
Echinacea 'Summer Sky'
Echinacea 'Green Envy'
Tricyrtis puberula
Canterbury bells
Larkspur
Belamcamda - blackberry lily
Aquilegia 'Corbett'
Aquilegia 'Woodside'
Aquilegia clematafolia
Aquilegia 'Sunlight White'
Oriental poppy 'Pizzicato'
Most of the seeds were collected and were starting to get old so it was last chance for them. And I'm not real sure about the newer Echinaceas - if any of them are sterile. I had other biennial seeds but ran out of room.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 19, 2013
1:22 PM

Post #9390335

The White swan come true from seed, the others I have read yes and no about, Ruby star gives a similar to the parent often from my reading but truly I do not really know for sure..(i bet you have read the same haven't ya)? LOL
Well we will wait for future details about your success with excitement , youthful invigoration !!!!
Coneflower is a great plant to work with! fun when they grow too..

I think the poppies I tried W S are dead. (WS describes my mood). ..


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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 19, 2013
4:33 PM

Post #9390498

I have a couple of other poppies that I might sow in paper pots and set outside before the last frost. They're annuals and I'm not sure if they'd like to be frozen. Last year's success was hard to go by since it was a warm winter. 'White Swan' has been pretty reliable in the past with collected seed but just not sure about the others. This new breed of coneflower seems like it can be a little dicey. Will let you know what sprouts but I'm sure we're still a few months away.
Still waiting for the arctic cold to hit but it's still relatively nice out but windy.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 25, 2013
1:20 PM

Post #9397438

Well it is kind of a stray but under lights a Wallflower , a meadow rue , and a little huckleberry is trying become sprout .
Everything outside is under the snow once again..
Will it ever end?
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 26, 2013
7:57 AM

Post #9398036

It is only January so I figure 2 months to go. I do usually get outside before the end of March though to cut back a couple of clematis before they push out new buds. Otherwise, I kinda look on winter as giving me time away from outside activities to get caught up on indoor stuff - indoor house maintenance, other crafts, etc. I'll start some seeds in a couple more weeks and start repotting some plants that have wintered over indoors, getting ready for spring.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2013
8:19 AM

Post #9398057

I took some Clematis bud slip cuttings last week or so . Greening and budding in January they were and would of frozen off anyway ... One more indoor thing to do lol . That is going okay so far .. their looking like leaf , an experiment ...
Everyone who sees the big blue blooms wants one , they just don't want to shell out the green for one in a pot..
I don't know about the out side larkspur still but a few more of the winter sown Daylilies were up last I looked ..
Trying to organize my seeds and plans for the spring garden .. not anything too difficult but it is a tedious effort..lol
I have three tissue boxes of seeds to organize as I keep misplacing a few I want to try..
MY GREATEST SUCCESS in winter sowing is leeks , their like rooting willows ,, super easy ...the way to with the green plants .. lol At least something always goes along well though ...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 26, 2013
3:47 PM

Post #9398460

Yes, I need to organize as well. Every year, I do a spreadsheet. One page is for my current inventory, one page is price comparisons for shopping and one page is for seed-starting. Being busy with other indoor projects, I've only done the wintersowing part of the seed-starting page. Woefully behind on organizing this year.
Are you supposed to get any of tomorrow's ice storm? They've got us forecasted for a 90% chance. Either it'll be not much of anything or it will be so nasty that we'll lose power. Regardless, I have no plans on leaving the house tomorrow.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2013
5:21 PM

Post #9398535

Well the weather is saying freezing rain and sleet ,not expecting any extreme freeze we all let you keep that , but Monday near 60 falling back to 3 by Thursday is going to make a lot more people sick...
Sunday going going to be icy but temps rise all night here... goofy weather , I swear ... yes I am near cursing ...
I am really happy my huckleberries are going to grow failed a bunch of times... My american cornflowers too , difficult to get real good seed for those ,and with those I have to have to grow them..

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2013
7:29 PM

Post #9398663

WARMER thoughts even if not exactly there yet...

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 27, 2013
9:01 AM

Post #9399036

Definitely nice to see new sprouts this time of year!
ponyexpress
Lancaster, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 2, 2013
12:17 AM

Post #9405599

I have sown a few penstemon varieties; Rocky mountain, pinifolius and whipple's. Monkshood, Columbine and Lupies. Also tried some pansies. I just recieved an order from georgia vines I'm looking forward to sowing. I also have Nicotonia sylvestris, a purple variety and a lime green variety I saved. About 6 different petunias as well. I'll be busy for a while. I need more containers. I'm filling them as fast as I get them : )
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 2, 2013
2:50 PM

Post #9406259

pony - would love to hear how your monkshood does. Tried years ago but not wintersown and no luck. Would like to have more.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 8, 2013
7:19 AM

Post #9411959

I suppose this does not count - LimeQuat seedlings.

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juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 8, 2013
8:34 AM

Post #9412021

it all counts!!! cute sprouts!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 9, 2013
6:14 AM

Post #9412899

Very cool, gasrocks. Had to look up limequat since I had never heard of it and was surprised to learn that the seedlings are identical to the parent despite the hybridization. Also says there can be two plants per seed. Fascinating.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 9, 2013
6:39 AM

Post #9412927

I have 3 pots full of seeds and more fruit to harvest yet. If you want a seedling, later when it gets warm enough to safely mail one, let me know.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 9, 2013
12:08 PM

Post #9413208

That would be fantastic! Thanks! Will send info via D-mail.
Do you grow them like citrus? My Meyer lemon is currently going to town with both new leaves and flowers. Of course, it's dropped about every one of it's old leaves, some still perfectly green. Hoping it's doing that because of the emergence of new leaves. I've been hand-pollinating with a small paint brush and already have too many fruits forming so will have to eliminate some. Loving my floor lamp which seems to do a great job with the light since I can actually see that the leaves have turned towards it which signals some pot rotation. Ooops - sorry to stray from the thread.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 9, 2013
12:30 PM

Post #9413236

Yes, we are off topic but others can join in. D-mail sent.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 9, 2013
2:01 PM

Post #9413355

Were only chatting about what we like , enjoy enjoy..,

Some sprouts to view..

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 10, 2013
8:05 AM

Post #9414072

juhur - are those the huckleberries and cornflowers you mentioned? I'm not so good at recognizing seedlings unless I've grown them myself. Getting close to seed-starting time for me and am getting excited. Have been doing a lot of other indoor work in the house in preparation to devoting time to the seeds.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 10, 2013
9:25 AM

Post #9414140

Yes those are both there and a small type tomato also ,Once these are in trays or larger pots ,and I can set plants outside on the drive or or in the garage I will start more.
The huckleberry seeds laid around a while too long ,not getting good germination , I have three growing , a couple came up and fell over and faded after a few days , have use for at least 6 or 8 of them , Then if I like them I can keep some seeds ..
Not dampening off bothering the seedlings some are just plain weak ,likely from me leaving seed too long...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 10, 2013
3:17 PM

Post #9414511

Can you take cuttings once your existing huckleberries get big enough? Sometimes I like the "instant gratification" of cuttings. Have a whole slew of cuttings to pot up to the next level, hopefully tomorrow.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 10, 2013
5:31 PM

Post #9414682

I have no idea if cuttings from Huckleberry are possible? I am not real god at pots or cuttings some of that you know ,but I keep trying and sometimes I get results .
Still trying Clematis cuttings with if'y results , I should of kept some Agastache in a pot too , but didn't..
Have a couple of things to try yet and such will be forth coming,no sign of my Larkspur , but the Pentsemon are making little plant starts all around .
Longing for spring I really am and weather like this just makes it more so...
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 10, 2013
8:19 PM

Post #9414836

40F and .94" rain today. Almost all snow gone off roof - YEAH.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 11, 2013
9:19 AM

Post #9415389

Snow has all melted with the rain and 40's yesterday but the ground was still frozen. Today it's overcast and windy but I'm planning on doing some repotting this afternoon after other chores get done.
juhur - Ken Druse has a good book called "Making More Plants" that might interest you. Compiles a lot of techniques on how different plants like to be propagated, when to take the cuttings or divide or collect seed and how to do it. Some cuttings are more challenging than others.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 11, 2013
10:47 AM

Post #9415495

Well there is no doubt I could use a little info, but my thought sill has to put it together correctly , I was better at some plant manipulating when I was younger, I do not know if that was because it did not matter as much to me then as it seems to now,
I see the mistakes I make , and seem to make them anyway , I like to have things proper ,do them once , and be on with it , A lot of plants have suffered because I am like that , if it is not right I am as likely to let them die as to correct anything.
I was never "born to be" attentive , never was, never will be .
Still do some decent and beyond natives and tomatoes though, The rare 9 foot Coneflower or 25 ft Tomato plant , a 30 inch Giant Sunflower bloom , are a few successes that make me as happy as can be..
Any time I have seen any , that are like that, I grin with a "what do you know" ? I got something right ..!!
..
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 11, 2013
11:37 AM

Post #9415569

Not sure I can word this correctly. Remember for many of us the only way we ever figure out the correct way to treat a plant is to kill a few first. Gene

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 11, 2013
11:44 AM

Post #9415582

That could explain why most of us are not Doctor's!!!!! lol :-)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 11, 2013
12:59 PM

Post #9415682

I totally understand learning the hard way. I tend to be impatient and usually have to start all over again the right way.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 18, 2013
6:49 PM

Post #9423733

I tried re-sowing some meadow rue , not sure which Thalictrum this is.
Plants look really bad this time of year , after a few of you mentioned it I went looking today , My Black Ball (cyanus) was standing a week ago with blue green leaves ,all gone now ,, Warm to freezing temperatures are taking their toll.
Everything looks dead, except Ditchlily shoots and some red pentsemon.
I am depressed again with the garden , but it is February , so what garden here, is there.?.


Still a mucky ,muddy , rainy mess.."out there"
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 19, 2013
7:52 AM

Post #9424187

Frigid and windy here today. Had light rain late yesterday and then the temps dropped. I did notice a few daffodil shoots yesterday in some of the more sheltered locations and I could see the crown of buds at ground level on a hyacinth or two. Even the various tiny spring bulbs have sprouted a few shoots. Peaked inside of my winter sowing milk jugs but didn't see anything green but I didn't expect to yet.
Only 10 days until meteorological spring (Mar 1)! March can be a big snow month for us so I won't be doing much outside yet except maybe pruning some clematis.
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 19, 2013
1:06 PM

Post #9424541

You guys... it is all so relative. Another month yet before I can complain about mud. Today there is 1/2 inch of ice covering my driveway, had 1/2 inch of snow last night, winds at 25+ all day, high was 12F.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 20, 2013
7:14 AM

Post #9425294

I shouldn't complain about our winter. No big snow dumps (yet) and I don't think we got below zero (real temp) this year. Not quite as gentle as last year but not bad. I was out catching rain water the other day by putting a bucket under the open spigot of my rain barrel. 'Course it was frozen by morning. Experimenting with not using my fluoridated city water on a few indoor plants.
Indoor seed-starting today! Yippee!
gasrocks
Portage, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 20, 2013
7:27 AM

Post #9425306

"City water" sounds like a dirty term to me.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 20, 2013
8:10 AM

Post #9425339

Ha! With no access to a well here, it's city water for us. I do let the chlorine dissipate for a couple of days before using and most plants don't care too much. I did read a piece on fluoride in the water a couple of weeks ago and the effect on plants although I had wondered about all the fluoride that I apply to myself - toothpaste, mouthwash, drinking water - from time to time. Gosh knows what other stuff is in my city water (which comes from Lake Michigan).

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 20, 2013
12:24 PM

Post #9425653

That term"" city water"" I have heard that as long as i can remember , every time someone starts wondering "well maybe it's something in the water" .. I still do myself abut wondering what is in the water...
One of my romanesco plants fell over and wilted , oh well The others all still look good , Still 'well poop' when then happens !

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 20, 2013
2:31 PM

Post #9425780

You know Cindy' I was reading back through this and you have a long list of flowers and plants planned !!!! How is all or any that working out?

Hey Water from Lake Michigan!!! Fish Emulsified Salmon Water!!!!! Good organic fertilizer for plants.. Good thing it is filtered and processed when it comes to the old taste buds having a drink !!!!!Like drinking Aquarium water !!! lol
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 20, 2013
3:24 PM

Post #9425858

"Aquarium water" - you could be right!
I got some indoor sowing done today - finally! This is the first group -
Snapdragons - 3 types
Columbine - 4 types (stratifying in the fridge)
Blackberry lily (stratifying in the fridge)
Browallia speciosa
Campanula - 3 types
Carex 'Bowle's Golden' - seed getting kinda old so not sure if it will sprout and may not come true
Foxglove
Platycodon 'Fairy Snow' (balloon flower)
Thyme - 2 types
Savory

Also did some cuttings from Plectranthus 'Mona Lavender' and a variegated Fuschia (don't have the name handy).
In a couple of weeks, I'll start a few more herbs. The big push will be towards the end of March when I start the veggies and annuals.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 26, 2013
7:57 PM

Post #9433122

Here is a not so god pic of a puffer fish Daylily cross, and more centurea..

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 27, 2013
7:00 AM

Post #9433428

Yea! More green stuff! Were those winter sown?

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 27, 2013
1:09 PM

Post #9433853

Started that way , brought them in under lights.. The weather doing what it does right now , for the next few weeks kills a lot of plants , new and old.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 27, 2013
1:12 PM

Post #9433859

I haven't peeked at mine for about a week so don't know if anything has sprouted yet but I tend to doubt it. I know the milk jugs are getting enough moisture but not a lot of sun at this point as I've been keeping them out of the wind and away from curious raccoons (who I wish would at least hibernate through the winter).

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

February 27, 2013
2:54 PM

Post #9433946

Any of mine in grow bags of various aren't showing sprouts either . Except the runner starts of Uvaria, But they seem to be an evergreen ,
The few root starts of that as far as flowers , and the Hyacinths (the ones that always do) seems to be about it ,The strawberry Foxglove ,have stayed green all winter also .
All is is kind of dead looking around the greenery , I guess I know why so many homes have cedars, pines, and spruces.
There are or were, a few evergreen daylily seedlings in a couple of start bags , the last time I looked. Only a few plant seedlings, around like that aren't much in the way of green to look at .

Besides it will likely be covered by snow again tonight , Well I have my indoor seedlings to look at , I tend to want to over care for those lol Finally a couple things are right ,even if some things are still wrong
Reminds of saying ( well you have to take or have, the bad with the good) Thank you grand and parents ,,lol.

CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

February 28, 2013
7:26 PM

Post #9435033

My foxglove in the garden didn't stay green as well as they did last year. Wondering how I'm going to trim away all of the yucky stuff and still retain enough plant. Might be my imagination but with all of the sleet/rain/snow, the lawn seems just a shade greener than the normal brownish color.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 4, 2013
3:56 PM

Post #9438804

Some of the grasses do have some green shades here , today waiting for the snowstorm tonight and tomorrow , hearing and seeing some of you are going to have some snow also.
Haven't had the foxglove long enough to know that, about the plant.



Today's seedlings , you have seen them before , they are growing , !!!:-)



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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 5, 2013
1:43 PM

Post #9439814

Yep - getting snow here. So far about 4" and has been coming down steady since this morning. It's not the big fat flakes that I expected but a little finer. DH will have to haul out the snow blower later. Bruised some muscles or I'd be out shoveling. Instead, rearranging the little GH to make room for the "growing on" of my first seedlings. I'm a hoarding recycler and had plastic food containers and water jugs everywhere, thinking I'd use them but my supply out-strips the demand so lots of plastic into the recycling container. Much more space now to get those plants I wintered over indoors back into growing condition. Had to move the 5 irises I saved from vole damage out into the sunny space as they were getting a little pale in the garage. Still hoping I'll get a few more survivors showing some green.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 5, 2013
1:49 PM

Post #9439821

I did check on my winter sowing jugs yesterday but nothing green yet in there. I'm thinking it'll be another month before anything's brave enough to sprout.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 5, 2013
5:49 PM

Post #9440084

Snowing the same here, flakes are getting bigger as night has fallen,
Plant and garden ?well maybe this weekend..
I sent some heirloom iris to a DG 'ER the other day , interesting you would bring those up ,Someone traded me some last fall and a little ""Amaryllis"" IRIS they said had not well for them is looking real good for me , one tiny little fan , has become three growing fans , and it has not even become growing season (neat one there)lol
Bought some plants today ,(M.O.) and will be looking forward to those if they are still processing their spring orders.
The plants inside in the cage are doing about the same , the tomato plants are still growing although one of them is needing more light ,
Lots of sprouts need attending too , A lot of Borage sprouts , only the good thing is I hear those like the cool weather , a might be for the early garden..
I am longing for a few nice days to do some arranging and constructing.. (moan or sigh?) ???
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 6, 2013
7:04 AM

Post #9440535

I haven't placed any mail orders yet this spring. Was contemplating it yesterday, trying to get everything from one place to save on shipping but will have to do some more research. Will try to get a few more seeds sown today indoors. Next week, it'll be time to pull the stratified seeds (mostly columbine) out of the fridge and get them going and then a bunch of stuff, including tomatoes, the following week. I generally sprout in the house under lights and then move out to the GH. Also need to do another batch of cuttings today, mostly coleus. I was happy to see 3 1/2 year old Browallia seeds sprouted. I generally collect those myself but last year's awful weather didn't produce a lot of blooms so had to rely on my old seeds.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 23, 2013
2:23 PM

Post #9459319

Yippee! I checked my winter sowing milk jugs and found a few surprises. Two types of Nicotiana, columbine 'Woodside', poppy 'Pizzicato' and larkspur. I think there's a hellebore foetidus but not quite sure. Granted - there are only 1 of each so far but with the sun the past couple of days and the (hopefully) warming temps, there will be more this week.
I did sow some basil indoors on Monday and it's already sprouted under the lights so it's almost time to dispose of the declining basil cuttings that I've overwintered. The stems are starting to get woody so leaf production and retention is failing. Was nice to have over the winter though. Some of the snapdragons I sowed on 2/20 are ready to be planted up into individual plastic cups from their small 9-packs. The roots are developing fast.
Also starting to move some of the perennials destined for DD's new garden up to her in MI. A lot of them still dormant since they were stored outdoors over the winter but she's a zone warmer than I am.
Actually got a chance to work outside today, initial cleanup of my warmest, sunniest bed since the spring bulbs are starting to pop.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 23, 2013
3:06 PM

Post #9459368

I don't have much going on in the way plants but at this hour . A baby (full grown) fledgling perregrin Falcon is sitting in my garden . thought you might like to see , The good camera is at the mall with my neice , wouldn't you just know it My winter sow efforts aren't there rather except one or two all failed . I just thought you might like that(the pic) though thinking about the trained birds and JB'S (BEETLES)
What do think will baby bird stay to help with the vole , mole and field mice thing? cooool huh? Maybe I should try growing falcons .?

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 23, 2013
4:43 PM

Post #9459451

Pretty neat pic! Are peregrines common in your neck of the woods? I have red tail hawks year round here. They occasionally go after the birds at the feeder but mostly just like to show off and look for other 4-legged creatures. Stray cats are a problem here - found a pile of feathers from a mourning dove along the side of the house. Would be cool if we could draw the birds' attentions to pesky bugs. Hmmm - maybe there's a training program out there?
Are you getting any snow down your way? It's been sunny and nice all afternoon and the sky is still clear here.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 23, 2013
5:02 PM

Post #9459471

Beautiful sunny 50 degree day here , and we get a few hawks all summer they circle and look , and watch only they are not all tumblers or eastern this little one here I am pretty sure is (tumbler). It set up on one of the big garden pots as I got the better camera only it flew away hunting as it saw some little birds about 50 yds away , yep woke up and said it's dinner time .. !! I have seen Sparrow hawks and Spotted Dove Hawks also , you have to watch when your not though , to see them,,,
Winter storm warning tonight through Monday expecting 9 inches of snow to begin with , more in flurries following ...
Winter is getting to be a real pooper . I lost a few flowers that popped up out of the ground , and others aren't there or it wil be months before I see them .
On a good note purple prince tulips (below,)more than twice as many as last year , coming up and growing strong .one Jackmanii Clematis cutting is rooting ,and a half dozen more look good , Lost the first half dozen , so that is good to me!
I can't get poppes or larkspurs to grow for me here at all , so a good sincere congratulations to you for being able , both are a wonderful flower ... basil inside with me is ""not a chance""

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 24, 2013
8:45 AM

Post #9460010

Gorgeous tulips! I kinda gave up on tulips though because I get frustrated that they don't come back like perennials after a year or two in the ground. I generally stick with my ever-increasing daffodil group (no real knock-outs but reliable) and some of the smaller spring bulbs.
I think the only snow we're supposed to get is maybe 1" of lake effect snow on Monday. It's grey here today and cooler so I'm glad I got to spend some time outdoors yesterday.
I heard recently that red tail hawks like to swoop into places just to announce their presence to other predator birds. Have seen my local guy sit in a tree for a couple of hours, keeping other birds away from the feeder. But I've also seen him chase a bird right through a large holly bush which surprised me.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 24, 2013
9:13 AM

Post #9460057

This group of Tulips is extremely hardy and well ,really the only group I have ever been able to keep well , my yellow tall emperor and red flame tulips half did not return last year and there is no sign they will return this year ..
3or 4 inches of snow this morning , so we got some of the storm here , might be more later , it is not snowing now and I hope it is done ,
I have a little clump of daffs and another of large blue Hyacinths that do okay , This time of year most of the Tulps and a few plants rot out , redundant .. every year ,
I have seen a large Hawk that most call the old chicken hawk , (the ones that circle high in summer) ,grab a squirrel from a garbage can , happened real fast and real silent ,in a blink , zoom!
Some of those are Falcons , some are Spotted hawks , three or four look similar at that distance , Only there is no mistaking when a tumbling falcon falls from the sky in dive , they look like they have been shot or have died as the fall , rolling , drifting in the air as they dive , then they grab something in their claw and are back up high in the air in no time ..
Earlier about your wintersow jugs even one or two is a start!! . When you get plants that way they uually look great !
A big strong plant or variety of flower are worth their weight in gold.. I never take my efforts to serious about this , and enjoy the plants I get ..It is nice when all or most gets along and proceeds well though..

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 24, 2013
3:06 PM

Post #9460436

I forgot to say thank you about the tulips , ! rain and sleet to snowing now to begin round two tonight
Daylily seedling today The saved from the not so good pot pic above

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 25, 2013
6:37 AM

Post #9461036

Do you do a lot of daylily cultivation or breeding? That seedling looks pretty robust to me. I don't have a lot of daylilies because I don't have room in the garden beds to accommodate all of their foliage.
We got about 1 1/2 inches of snow last night, starting around 8 pm. Hopefully it's done. It's right around freezing this morning.
I've never noticed the larger birds soaring around up there because I've always lived with large trees and focused more on the smaller birds. There's supposed to be some nesting bald eagles near the lake in town which surprised me. I am enjoying watching the goldfinches starting to moult their winter feathers and turning yellow again. We do feed them all winter, hoping they'll stay to help with the mosquito population in the summer.
Hoping to get some seedling transplanting done this week as well as getting some more seeds going. Just about time for the tomatoes.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 25, 2013
7:10 AM

Post #9461076

Not a lot with the Daylily only everal are here that about the garden. Most of my attempts are that attempts , some outside rotted ,so I am glad I had these in here . I only wanted a few with names that were newer , some get pretty pricey , beyond me for now , but if I wanted them I would find a way, plant freak is me !lol Those are easy if your careful ..
Brings to mind warmer weather , looking at 55 to 60 coming for next week ,, ahh how sweet it will be!!!

About 7 inches of snow so far at it is still falling pretty good , 10 ,12, or so with wind drifts , yes, the snowstorm got here.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

March 25, 2013
7:40 AM

Post #9461111

snow pic .
tomato seedlings, the new batch I took these this morning ,, I love my stump snow guage ,don't I, cool huh ? okay ,well. you know. I'm me lol

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

March 26, 2013
8:57 AM

Post #9462527

I heard that you got slammed with snow further south. That's almost a typical late winter snow storm scenario that we would see here. Had one about 12 years ago at the end of March that left us without power for almost a week.
Hoping to start those tomato seeds this week. First have to get chores out of the way (drudge).
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 4, 2013
12:16 PM

Post #9471872

Woo hoo! Tomatoes are up after 4 days and sweet peppers just starting to come up after 8 days. A few indoor columbine are up as well. Trying to get ahead with all the sprouts as another round of seed sowing to do in 2 weeks. All of the previously sprouted annuals and perennials have already been potted up and all indoor perennial and herb residents are outdoors for the time being (as long as it doesn't get below freezing). Hoping to get some rain here during the next week as it's pretty dry. I'll kick myself for saying that as I haven't started spring cleanup yet.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2013
12:47 PM

Post #9471899

I just walked in and set down , I am dig cleaning a BES flower clump(s) This is a borrowed computer!! ,mine crashed at the end of last week ,
Hey Cindy ,that is great with the Tomato and Pepper starts !! swish !! I love those quick starts !!lol I was thinking of hardening my plants for another day , before leaving them outside ,.

OMG !! I got a bag full of Liatris from my winter sow bag ,, Look out now !!! THE weather might turn back to normal !!!LOL
My plants are sitting on the driveway for this afternoon , nice , Tomato plants Borage , a few flowers . more to come .. I started some Black purple pepper seeds a day ago . Back later , odds and ends to do...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 4, 2013
3:57 PM

Post #9472046

Sat out on the porch with DH this afternoon - nice! We're supposed to get down to about 33 tonight so those pots outdoors got covered up for the night. Lugged two big potted hydrangeas out there as well with DH's help, trying to slow them down a bit as they love growing indoors. One belonging to DD already has a couple of flower buds on it. Won't be able to get it up to her place in MI until later this month.
Borage has such a pretty flower but I don't have the space for it. I have some Liatris in my garden but I don't think it likes me much. Maybe because I can't give it a prairie setting?

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 4, 2013
7:00 PM

Post #9472219

Some of my Liatris have grown well bloomed well and then did not return , I do not understand that little bulb maker either? Maybe because it is a bulb root ? and only a few of my bulbs do well.
Had you tried growing them like a Tulip or such? Something there maybe only I do not know for sure.

Really only delighted a bag of something in the winter sown had sprouted and grew .! Milkshake Coneflower has sprouted up . Some red Hyacinths I had forgotten returned , they weren't there last year , didn't come up and I thought they were gone ..No sign of my wild Lupines either so far ,, that's not good as this is their weather.
I had sown some lettuce outside in the garden and after the coming rain i am hoping it will grow . Had a marigold sprout today ,(saved seed ,last year) .
I am not sure yet , but two years after the fact a Penstemon (sunburst ruby) seems to have sprouted . I hope it is ..
Poppies did not return either , waiting a while to be sure ..
Tomorrow I might work on my concrete poles for the Tomato plants later .Fresh air and sunshine was real nice today wasn't it ..:-)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 5, 2013
7:18 AM

Post #9472568

I wonder if Liatris is one of those plants that is picky? Mine are in a bed with other perennials, roses, etc and I do water that bed in the summer if it's dry. Maybe it doesn't like that. I know (from reading) that some bulbs don't like supplemental watering. What kind of poppies did you sow/plant? Nice, though, to have some surprises sprout. Cayenne pepper showed up this morning with indoor sowing. I'm always surprised when peppers take longer to sprout than tomatoes. Your lupines might show up yet. Definitely seems like spring is a little later here than usual - the forsythia haven't bloomed yet and none of the spring flowering trees are near ready to bloom.
Trundled plants outdoors this morning - some of the smaller things that might get too chilly at night yet. And I don't necessarily want them rained on yet because the stems are still young so I'll have to keep them protected next week if/when we get rain.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 5, 2013
9:18 AM

Post #9472688

Giant red and a smaller perennial white poppy is what I had started ,I might try some annuals . The plants setting in the drive are getting wind blown today ,
Little cherry and Huckleberry plants was all I left outside last night , More the little trees and natives that nearly grow all year
I will get around to my sprouts and other garden vegies as I get comfortable with all the little detail work . Wind is a little chilly this morning only should warm up nicely later this afternoon .Pole and set work n the garden to do as comfortable then.
Some plants do well ,others not so well always that way . Making special sets for plants requires a lot of detail sometimes , really have to want or like a plant for that..
Still as to flowers last years fall plants all look pretty good so far ,so I am a happy camper there , It is just that Goldie the ground hog keeps coming by and having Daylily potato salad with a milkweed juice and I am not so happy that. Been here so often that name came from everyone who decided it is a pet now ..grrr
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 5, 2013
2:20 PM

Post #9472921

Sorry your "pet" is making your life miserable.
Looking forward to tomorrow's weather - almost 20 degrees warmer here. I am hoping it rains or I'll have to water my milk jugs sitting outdoors for winter sowing.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 5, 2013
2:55 PM

Post #9472945

All things being for ""The Love of Nature""" Good thing sometimes , When I get a computer I will try some new pics , I got a couple of ""good ones"" with sisters new camera , but I have no system to load them .
Potting up two to three week old Tomato plants and the Romanesco is nearly three feet tall , only that is more the other thread .
Possibly a couple of Cardinal flowers and Pentsemons are up ,they are to small to tell for sure , and some of the tutti fruitti Lupines have returned or sprouted these were all seeds last fall .
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 6, 2013
6:42 AM

Post #9473516

Glad to hear your lupines are showing up. My tomato seedlings are still putting out their first set of true leaves so I won't be potting them up until next week. Today's horticultural chore is potting up some coleus cuttings I took weeks ago. They're crammed into 4-cell packs and need more root space.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 6, 2013
4:37 PM

Post #9474015

Well I am beginning to and hardening off my tomato plants , Only 50 or low 50's the next few nights so my plants will remain outside.
Broke one of the first seven I started months ago (drat) the others look good , The ones I started about three weeks ago kept right on growing and were not disturbed with the process at all (good thing!)
As it is ,lost one maybe of 25 or 26 plants( I am still too ,too clumsy with my plants
The Centeurea Cornflowers look just right as does a Robinson's red mum..
Huckleberries look a little sun burned but seem allright .
I threw a bunch of old seeds in front of the Zebra grass last fall and have tons of little flower sprouts , without any idea of what they are !? Will see if any of them make it to maturity ..
Yes indeed outside to back inside for the next two months with the plants ,Finding out now if any of the Bean seeds are good or not ,also a pot of zinnia got planted today! Concrete pole towers for plants to grow on are well under way , lots and lots to do !!!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 7, 2013
7:34 AM

Post #9474528

Tomato plants can be tricky to transplant or move when they're bigger. I learned a few years ago when I started them indoors with not enough light and had to stake them before they even made it into the ground. Talk about challenging.
We did get a few sprinkles on and off last night but not the steady rain we really needed. Would love to be spending more time outdoors this weekend but we're installing a new shower door - a real pain. Did get all of my coleus potted up so I did accomplish something. Need to get dahlia, kale and 4 o'clocks started this week. Had read another thread about using 4 o'clocks to discourage JBs. Thought I'd give that a try instead of trying to hand pick every one like last year. Might also try a trap this year if I can figure out where to put it in my limited space.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 7, 2013
11:15 AM

Post #9474761

This all became another thread but so be it , Well it is what I get for trying to be ,, well you know ... lol It is interesting that the skinny little Romanesco turned out to be the larger plant ,
The Farmsteads that I only had two seeds of ,one is the larger I may have lost the other looks well and is a foot tall .Usual thing is, I would say it is what happens for being extreme without a greenhouse or indoor green space to grow early .
Sometimes when I get the plants right though I get lots more to munch on and so forth and that is the worth doing part .early fresh vegies .. all my own!!!he he .
Planted some more Huckleberry and pepper seeds . I will try the onions , some already in the garden , more shortly though .
Good luck with the shower doors , those things are a fright sometimes . I have installed a few ..
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 7, 2013
3:44 PM

Post #9475039

Got the door finished. But I had the stupid idea to replace some of the silicone caulk in the shower. What a major job - one that I'll be working on all this week.
Parsley showed up today - 10 days after sowing and that's after soaking the seeds overnight. Making more paper pots tonight for more seed starting this week. Have already gone through 50 or so.
Bulbs are finally making a little braver show with the warmer weather. Little bright blue scillas everywhere. And first daffodils are almost open. Yipee! If we get the rain this week that's forecasted, they'll be going crazy by next weekend.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 7, 2013
3:54 PM

Post #9475055

Around and round we go!!! POPSCICLE STICKS !!!!! :-) lol you know popscicle smoothies ...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 9, 2013
2:11 PM

Post #9477811

Ya lost me on the popsicle smoothies.
Planning on soaking some 4 o'clock seeds tonight. Got a few dozen pots made last night. Also have to sow some kale and dahlias.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 9, 2013
2:34 PM

Post #9477846

I was only joking some about everybody use to or seem to smooth caulk with popscicle sticks , okay not funny . Hope your flowers work for the J beetles , those things !
I have not started half of what I should or want .Moves along as it does .?
Daffodils blooming since yesterday , nice to see the blooms , Maybe we should start a spring time thread .
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 10, 2013
8:33 AM

Post #9478742

Ah! now I get the popsicle reference. I generally use old credit cards or, if it's latex caulk, my wet fingers. Silicone caulk is such a pain to deal with but it performs better and longer.
Got the 4 o'clocks soaking. Tried to nick them last night but those have an extremely hard outer layer so thought I'd soak first, then nick.
Yep, sounds like time for a spring thread.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 10, 2013
7:48 PM

Post #9479477

Alittle short chat here later than usual , I saw a couple of wild lupines today (i think they are) little and getting leaves , I don't know if they will bloom this year but I hope so , Wildflowers are kind of delightful.
Like field of Flanders Poppies shown in films . wildflowers have an effect all their own ..
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 11, 2013
12:41 PM

Post #9480294

You are so right about the wilflowers. I only have a couple here in my not-virgin woodlands - violets in the spring and a yellow thing that blooms in the summer. Will have to look up the name of it some time. It would be cool to have a field of poppies.
Congrats on the lupines! I know you were worrying about them not showing up.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 11, 2013
2:48 PM

Post #9480411

Last years wild hyacinths that did not show up then are back , One of three of them has made a clump of half dozen . cool.. I thought they were through and gone .. A nice surprise ..
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 12, 2013
7:56 AM

Post #9481201

Haven't been outdoors much the past few days due to the rainy weather. Hoping to get out there this weekend for some spring cleanup work and will probably uncover more blooms. Gosh - wild hyacinths? Tell me more.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 12, 2013
9:42 AM

Post #9481339

Not much to tell really , wild flower that is a little rare these days , Woodland plant , small white bloom , used by a couple of BF's that have also gotten rather rare ,
Something for a dark corner with woodsy soil ,, not impressive or anything ,but I like them ,
I will let them set there without being disturbed a few more seasons before I change anything ,if at all ..
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 12, 2013
11:19 AM

Post #9481431

Looked up the wild hyacinth. Camassia. Says they're slow to develop but long-lived. Nice! Lucky you.
Forgot the most prolific wildflower here - waterleaf. Seeds about quite a bit. Really nice flowers but gets a little pesky and sprawly later in the season.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 12, 2013
11:42 AM

Post #9481458

Apparently mine are the "Alba " Blooms are smaller than the pic, I don't believe I have ever seen one that had grown to maturity though.
Your waterleaf is the Eastern? related to the Borage family of plants , with white blooms ?

I don't remember ever seeing your waterleaf or my hyacinth in those blue or pink bloom shades , Rare they must be , ?
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 13, 2013
7:22 AM

Post #9482328

The waterleaf here (Hydrophyllum virginanum) has lavender flowers. Reference sources say it's finicky and blooms only when submerged in water but definitely not the case here. It can be a pretty prolific plant and I sometimes pull it out in spots but I pretty much consider it part of the "wilder" section of garden. I get quite a few blooms in mid to late spring.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 20, 2013
9:15 PM

Post #9491433

Today looking at the plants , it seems those Pow Wow wild berry(Coneflower)seeds I planted and had one tiny plant outdoors of have become three or four small individual plants , So as near a winter sow success as I have gotten near !I guess it is , as all outdoors all winter and they are there ... neatoh!!! :-)

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 22, 2013
5:14 PM

Post #9493692

My wintersown Daylily crosses are sprouting up!!! YIPPEEEE!!!!!!!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 23, 2013
1:58 PM

Post #9494689

Great news on the daylily sprouts! I peeked inside my outdoor milk jugs yesterday, moving them to a sunnier spot. There's green things in most of them but will have to actually unseal the tape to find out what's growing. Several jugs have identical plants and am thinking some annual weed seeds got mixed in.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

April 23, 2013
2:14 PM

Post #9494706

From bags and pots and jugs , The only thing from this past winter's efforts are some willows and something that looks like rue ..
Plants that re-seed or were planted last fall like the Dallily (in ground where they will grow ) I found another Lupine far away from where sown and planted those had been , Still a few surprises of a few plants sprouting here and there , are kinda fun as nice .. (the Pow Wow Coneflower being one of those).
Today I was bagging a few Clematis cuttings and doing set up for the concrete poles until the rain and storms started . Need a good solid structure for the Tomato plants in the garden , they have brought down everything I have tried to hold them up with once they are over six ft, tall or so .Noticed a Borage plant had sprouted from wnter attempt to sow , only one though , Lots of those in cups presently ..
I imagine you feel the same about some of this, from some of what you said earlier about what you had planted , Nice when the effort "Pays off"
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

April 24, 2013
3:10 PM

Post #9495887

Still haven't had a chance to actually open up the jugs. Granddaughter has been visiting for a few days and had to take her home this morning. I swear one or two of the plants look like leaf lettuce and I'm trying to figure out how I did that since I didn't intentionally plant them. Potted up the last of the indoor-sown pepper plants this afternoon. Now have over 20 of them - 'Aurora' (a hot ornamental), cayenne (my son dries them for use in the winter) and sweet red. Also potted up some columbine from collected seed - 'Corbett' (a small yellow flowered thing) and an all-blue one (not quite sure what the name is anymore with all of the interbreeding that goes on). Also got really brave and potted up an aloe plant. DD had given me a piece a month ago and I had to trim off the roots that had rotted away. Stuck it in a pot full of dry perlite and waited for a month. Poor thing had turned brown. Brought it out to the little greenhouse, thinking I had failed and was going to toss it but accidentally knocked it over and saw roots. Put it back in the perlite and started giving it a few dribbles of water. I now have side shoots (pups?) growing from the now-rooted plant which has regained it's color. Got brave and mixed a little potting soil with the perlite and repotted it. Now I'll wait to see how long it takes me to really kill it. :)
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

May 1, 2013
8:52 AM

Post #9504075

Finally checked my winter sowing milk jugs and here's what I've got -
Nicotiana alata
Nicotiana 'Lime Green'
Aquilegia 'Corbett'
Aquilegia clematifolia
Canterbury bells
Forget-Me-Nots
Larkspur
Belamcamda chinensis
Poppy 'Pizzicato'
Lobelia syphilitica

I think with all of the other stuff I sowed indoors, I was a little too ambitious. I think I looked at outdoor winter sowing as more of a challenge than a planting plan.

juhur7

juhur7
Anderson, IN
(Zone 6b)

May 1, 2013
7:27 PM

Post #9504791

My Belamcamda chinensis Never showed ,, oh well ,, hoping on here and glad truly for your success ,,, IT'S GREAT !!!!!
That is a lot of a bunch of flowers!!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

May 5, 2013
9:41 AM

Post #9509019

Have not been brave enough to remove any plants from the jugs yet - those poppies make me a little nervous since they're sensitive to moving.

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