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    Communities > Forums > Plant Identification
    Forum: Plant IdentificationReplies: 10, Views: 60
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    sladeofsky
    Louisville, KY (Zone 6b)

    January 3, 2013 8:26 PM

    Post #9374758

    I'm sure this is a Tsuga, but it is obviously not canadensis, which is the most common species here. This is a mature tree, so, I assume it is somewhat hardy here.

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    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    January 3, 2013 9:11 PM

    Post #9374795

    It could also be T. heterophylla.
    Just guessing on this one though.

    sladeofsky
    Louisville, KY (Zone 6b)

    January 3, 2013 9:39 PM

    Post #9374814

    I doubt it, although I hope you are correct. I have tried heterophylla with horrible results. However, if the conditions are right for a plant to beocome established, then it's chances of surviving to maturity are greatly enhanced. I suspect this is an Asian species. The very mild conditions of the North West leave most of the plants from there ill-adapted to deal with our harsher heat/ cold, summer droughts with high humidity and winter wet with alternating periods of freeze and thaw. I have been pleasantly surprized by how well certain Western plants, such as Nootka Cypress and Calocedrus do here. Evolutionary history is long and complicated.
    vngarden
    Seattle, WA

    January 3, 2013 10:01 PM

    Post #9374825

    If you suspected it to be an Asian species, then It could be T. chinensis.

    growin

    growin
    Vancouver, BC (Zone 8b)


    January 3, 2013 10:33 PM

    Post #9374831

    The needles look big and oddly arranged. What size are they in comparison to T. canadensis?

    Tsuga chinensis var. forrestii for comparison

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    sladeofsky
    Louisville, KY (Zone 6b)

    January 3, 2013 11:33 PM

    Post #9374843

    I took the photo earlier in the year... So my response is based on memory. The needles are thicker at the base than canadensis and more thickly and less flatly arranged.
    sladeofsky
    Louisville, KY (Zone 6b)

    January 3, 2013 11:34 PM

    Post #9374845

    I took the photo earlier in the year... So my response is based on memory. The needles are thicker at the base than canadensis and more thickly and less flatly arranged.
    P.S. the needles were not very long.

    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    January 4, 2013 1:19 AM

    Post #9374868

    The cones are typical T. canadensis. The foliage is a bit odd, but still shows the line of inverted needles along the top of the shoot typical of T. canadensis. So a cultivar of T. canadensis with somewhat unusual foliage.

    Resin
    sladeofsky
    Louisville, KY (Zone 6b)

    January 4, 2013 9:27 AM

    Post #9375189

    I thought it might be a cultivar. I was reading... what about T. diversifolia?

    Resin

    Resin
    Northumberland
    United Kingdom (Zone 9a)

    January 4, 2013 11:24 AM

    Post #9375314

    sladeofsky wrote:what about T. diversifolia?


    Cones are different, broader, more rounded, with slightly different shape scales; also shorter, broader needles with a notched apex:
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tsuga_diversifolia_04...
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tsuga_diversifolia_02...

    Resin
    sladeofsky
    Louisville, KY (Zone 6b)

    January 4, 2013 3:51 PM

    Post #9375616

    Thanks Resin.

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