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Here is where we can chat about seeds we have, seeds we're looking for, etc. You can also arrange trades on this thread (or via D-mail).
It is not necessary to arrange a single trade in advance for the swap, but it can be useful. Swap discussions are also handy for gauging interest in a particular kind of seed, so when you're packaging seeds you know if you should make up 6 packets or 26.
As I've done in the past, I'll put together a tray of "goodie bags" with names on them. This makes it really easy for you to earmark seeds for a particular person and just drop them into that person's bag when you arrive. Nametags will be near the goodie bags -- please use them! I'll also have seed baggies, label slips, and pencils for any last-minute dividing and sharing, but you'll want to do as much labeling in advance as possible so that doesn't cut into your swapping & chatting time.
Let's post our "have" and "want" lists on a separate thread here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1294097/ If we make just one post per person on another thread, our lists will be easy to find. Sometimes these trading/discussion threads get pretty busy!
non-seed items so far (from me) include
Black industrial Sharpie markers 75 cents
Silver or Gold metallic Sharpie markers $1.50
Polymer moisture crystals, medium (regular size)
The industrial Sharpies hold up far better to UV and other outside conditions. I haven't yet found a time limit to their legibility, and I've been using them several years. The metallic ones are great for writing on black or dark green nursery pots and generally remain legible for 2 or 3 years, even in my very sunny conditions. If you buy Sharpies singly, they'll go for more like $2 each, sometimes more; these prices are lower because I can get them in boxes of 12 and sets of 4, respectively.
The polymer moisture crystals are fabulous, IMO. Much cheaper to order in bulk from Watersorb.com, so that's what we'll do. Final cost per pound will depend on how much is ordered. I'll pack into quart or gallon freezer bags. For more information, see this DG article: http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1092/
Let me know if you're interested and how many markers or pounds of crystals you want. I'll probably order a big box of medium crystals, but I can get a few pounds of small, large, or powder if there's interest (it'll be more $ per pound but still a good deal).
Anybody who is ordering seeds that they think will be delivered before the swap -- please consider posting to see if anybody wants just a packet or two from the same place, so we can all stretch our shipping $.
And my cat was the reason I got into succulents in the first place! She'll gobble up anything that looks leafy (and get sick of course, but that never seems to deter her).
The recipe is Al's ("tapla" in the forums here and on gardenweb.com) gritty mix. It's 1/3 Turface; 1/3 grower's size chicken grit with the dust washed off; and 1/3 pine bark fines that have been screened to between 1/8 and 3/8 inches. There's also some lime and time-release fertilizer. I find it easy now, but it took a little while to get all the ingredients and screens ready.
I'll make more for the spring swap, but I don't have any right. It's just too darn cold to be sitting outside for a couple of hours screening this stuff. DH always asks me if I'm "prospecting for gold" when I get the screens out. :)
Could we have a volunteer to be Terp's "seed fairy" so he can participate by mail if he can't make it?
This is how "seed fairy" works, just for general info of course because we're hoping to see both Terp & SO!
If you can't make it to the swap but still want to participate, send your seeds to your "seed fairy" in a bubble envelope, with at least $2 for return postage and your address. Seeds marked for particular people will be dropped in the goodie bags by your "seed fairy," and the rest can just be put in a box to pass around. Similarly, you'll have a goodie bag where people can put seeds you requested or ones they think you'd like. The contents of your goodie bag will be put into your bubble envelope and mailed back to you by your "seed fairy" after the swap.
Not sure what I will have in the way of seeds to bring dear JR knocked down several open containers of seeds I had sitting on the kitchen table. We did pick up most of them but really not too sure what is what now. Really my fault instead of picking them up and putting them in a safer place I just pushed them down to the lower end of the table and too close to the edge. I can bring Black Pussywillow cuttings that I will hand out in the parking lot if anyone would like them.
I am looking for Hyacinth Bean Vine seeds I get a ton of seeds from my vines but they don't seem to get mature before the frost gets them.
Terp, does this mean you're blowing off your SO and coming after all? I don't know whether to be happy or to shake my head going tch tch tch at you.
Holly, I'm happy to report that I finally had 2 Black Pussy Willow cuttings take! I got these from you at the seed swap last year. Here's what I did with them: The day after the swap, I saw it had warmed up enough that I could shove a 2x2 stake into one of my foundation beds. I made a narrow hole, then trickled a teaspoon of moisture crystals down into it. Then I gently pushed the cutting down into the dirt as far as I could (it was pretty wet/soft once I got past the cold upper layer). Tamped down the dirt around it and crossed my fingers.
I know i don't have to tell you this...but if you soak the beans for a few days till they sprout--
They will germinate a lot faster...I tried growing them one year--and they sure are slow.
Just do the wet paper towel and baggie thing...
I never have much luck with the bigger seeds--like H. Bean, Moon Flower, etc...
They seem to bloom so late! maybe they need to be started in the house like NOW--
and then gently transplanted out. Being a "bean"--they probably do not like to be moved...
Gita, I have good luck getting them to germinate and grow. I get a ton of bean pods but most of them never reach maturity and I never seem to have good seeds for the next year. Maybe just not a long enough growing season.
Holly, I ended up bringing a couple Japanese Morning Glory vines inside so the pods could finish ripening, same sort of problem... Glad Gita has a stash of them to share! I have some to plant for this year, so we'll see if I have just that little bit longer before first frost here.
I'm looking around at various "deals" on bulbs, bare root plants, etc. Anybody into Gladiolus? Crocosmia? For example, we can get 20 bags of "assorted" glads, 50 in a bag, for about $6 including shipping to me. That's a deal! Named glads are also a great price from the same seller (a couple dollars more per 50), but they have to be bought in trays of 500, or in pre-determined "collections" of several varieties. Crocosmia priced out at 50 cents/bulb, maybe a little less depending on variety.
I know a couple other folks were interested in lilies, especially the yummy smelling oriental ones. Oriental lilies and Orienpets (Oriental Trumpet hybrids) look like they're averaging $1.20 to $1.40 per bulb including shipping, but again we're talking about ordering in quantity (bags of 25), so think $6 or so for 5 bulbs of a given variety.
If there's interest in the above spring-planted bulbs, I'll start another thread for a group buy. They start shipping March 1, so we should be able to sort/distribute at the spring swap.
I'm also trying to figure out when this company's magical time is for pre-ordering fall planted bulbs and getting free shipping, because I'm thinking "daffodil group buy!" (This is a company I've dealt with, but since pricing info is only available to their wholesale customers, I don't think I should say which company on a public thread... I'm skirting around it as it is, I think, by posting "at cost" prices.)
What catalog are you ordering from--the Lilies, that is? So I could see what they have.
I would be interested in the Orienpet (oriental?) lily "Honeymoon" No more than 4.
If you are ordering some other, similar ones, please let me know.
I used to have these--bought them from someone (Beauty from Bulbs??) but they have now died out.
I did not see this variety in the B, from B. catalog. They almost looked like "Casablanca"...
They were in a not so good a place. I moved them. Now I have my Lilies in a full sun bed and would
like these again. Waiting to see how the Regale Lilies will do after the move this spring.
I LOVE Crocosmias--but have never had any luck them wintering over. Should these be dug up?
Tried finding the "Honeymoon" Lily pic. No luck. Gita
Gita, I'll Dmail you tonight. And I'll check for 'Honeymoon' or one with similar coloring. They do have 'Regale' -- I loved its ruffles! an improvement on Casa Blanca IMO. As I said, 25 per bag, so we'll have to drum up enough interest in the varieties we want, or be willing to buy more (these prices are 1/3 the cost, or better, of what I've seen elsewhere for 16/18 cm bulbs).
I haven't grown crocosmias before, but I want some. They should be hardy for us, but I'm not sure if they like wet or dry during winter dormancy. We'll learn about them!
I wanted to see if anybody wanted to get in on an order from Summerhill Seeds. She's always got interesting varieties, and I'm pretty close already to spending the minimum for free shipping, so just assume no additional cost for s/h. :-) http://summerhillseeds.com/ Please Dmail me with what you want to order.
Many, many moons ago--probably not too much after we moved into this house (19690)
my Cousin on Oregon (they have the most amazing gardens there!) sent me some Montbratia bulbs.
That was my first go at them. They grew well ans lived for a few years--then disappeared.
Fast forward to 2 years ago--I bought some in a small packet (small bulbs as well_ and planted
them in my Yuk bed. I did see them coming up in the spring--but that was about it.
You have much better soil in your beds and, hopefully, they would make it in your garden.
After Terp comes and digs up my WS shrub--I will have that small round bed to plant my Dr. Seuss in
which will free uo a lot of the bed I have been growing it in so far.
Then I can try to grow the Montbratias there. maybe i will have more luck. I am assuming that Crocosmia and Montbratia are one and the same. There may be different varieties??
Looking for Morning Glory seeds (any kind), also sweet pea seeds (any kind). I have the hot pink ones that are very hardy. Thanks. Also, any seeds of tropicals.
Sure, would live a cutting or two of goldfish & Jasmine cutting or two and any morning glory seed (no matter how old) would be welcome. I still have that Alsobia you gave me, Critter, but it is in a closed terrarium in my kitchen window. It has never bloomed, but is growing like a weed. Maybe when we start getting more sunny days & the greenhouse stays warmer, I can start some cuttings to see if it would bloom in the greenhouse.
We've got a Japanese Morning Glory Mix that we'll be posting on our Haves list, and I think there are also plenty of seed pods still on the Grandpa Otts that grew outside our morning room window this summer (no other "regular" MGs near, so I'm sure they'll come true).
I just need to do a quick estimate of how many packets we'll have of various things, and then I'll start a list on the other thread. I keep getting distracted... LOL
I had an exchange with Robin at Summer Hill seeds yesterday. The free shipping offer that Terp & I just ordered with has ended, but she said she'd be posting some more new seeds, probably next week, and there would be another free shipping offer then. She has a knack for finding really cool seeds. So, go ahead and browse and get your wish list ready! I'll post when the offer comes in. http://www.summerhillseeds.com/
I'm going to start a separate thread to see if anybody is interested in ordering gladiolus corms. I'm assuming they can be delivered in time for whatever date they set for the spring swap, but we'll see what they say. We might do some lilies, too, checking into them. I'm also asking if it's OK to post some prices along with the link to the company I'm considering. More info should be coming soon! :-)
Sally, sure I'll take the Strelitzia & thanks much. p.s. remember that snake plant you gave me at Holly's swap? Well, I have another one & gonna take a piece off it & give it to you. It's similar to what you gave me but doesn't have the spots, just green on one side & dark red on the back of the leaf. And, yes, any morning glories would be more than welcome from anybody. I want to plant them on the fence around the vegetable garden this year & if they hybridize, all the more interesting. Gita, tropical is anything that is not hardy here, anything that grows in the tropics, including morning glories only we consider them annuals, not tropicals. Critter, I'll gladly take some Japanese MG Mix. Also, looking for sunflowers. I have mixed mine so will bring bags of that mix along, all colors.
ooh Buttoneer, you got a deal ! That other snake plant sounds awesome.
BTW, a 'houseplant aloe' offset you gave me couple years ago is really hitting its stride. Leaves are over a foot long, she's sharing a pot with a large leafed Motherof THousands, actually I think you were my source on that too.!
Buttoneer, would you (or anybody) like seeds of my night-blooming jasmine? Since I can bring some cuttings along pretty easily, I wasn't sure if anybody would even want seeds, but I've got some white berries maturing on the plant now just because I was curious about them. :-)
Also, I'll see if I still have a fat packet of mixed MG seeds that you could strew along your fence.. they're probably 5+ years old, but they should still be good, and I don't remember giving them away, so I'll look for 'em.
Donner, I'll try to get some going, and I'll see. They rooted readily for me in fall. I think I'm going to stick cuttings of several things in 48-cell trays, dixie cups, whatnot... Maybe in potting mix, maybe just in damp sphagnum + moisture crystals. They should at least start rooting by swap time, and I can wrap the little root ball in press 'n seal just about as neatly as doing cuttings.
I bought a lovely "goldfish plant" gessie in fall, because it was just too pretty to resist (esp. at half price LOL). I cut it back by half last week and put dozens of cuttings in water (no time to pot them up; hopefully this weekend if I'm feeling better)... I can already see tiny white nubs that I think are roots starting to form. I also have dozens of offshoot plantlets (like spiders from a spider plant) on my Alsobia 'Cygnet' that I can snip off for anybody who doesn't have one going yet. It's a cutie. LMK!
My white variegated pothos is due for a trim, also... cuttings are easy to root, easy grower too. Red heartleaf philodendron has a few long trailers, also.
Oh, I love the goldfish plant. I used to have one, but gave it to a friend several years back when I kept going out of town (county) for long periods of time. It bloomed beautifully and the foliage was lovely too.
My Alsobia has also got buds on it now. It bloomed last year right before the seed swap, and it is doing it again. I should rename it "seed swap plant" :-). I gave Ruby quite a few cuttings last year. I wonder if they rooted for her.
Paul, they do look similar, don't they? I don't think they are related though. They belong to different families and genera - you can find that information if you google them.
That said, the goldfish plant is very easy to look after. I don't remember doing much with the plant. Give it a bright spot in the house, and do not let it sit in soggy soil. It likes some humidity. I kept mime in a bathroom that had 2 big south-facing windows. Since it is difficult to provide a humidity tray for a hanging plant, at least make sure you keep it away from the AC vent. Well, dry air from AC vents is not good for any house plant anyway.
Any interest in a group buy on pure suet cakes for bird feeding? Ronnie just gave a link, I am willing to order, with shipping they would be 2.50 each to you guys, I pay 3.49 at the one place I get them, most places sell the cakes with seed mixed in for around .89 to a dollar , but those don't last nearly as long for me.
That's a great price on the suet, Sally! Those 79 cent or 99 cent ones have so much seed in them, and it seems to be mostly millet or cracked corn. Joyanna and I still have a pretty good stash of "bird cookies" from making a huge batch of PB suet last year.
Got you on the moisture crystals, Buttoneer... LMK how many pounds. $7 for about a pound, and easiest to measure into 2 or 5 pound bags (quart or gallon freezer bags, as I recall). I need to see what shipping is on the 55 pound box, might be worth just going ahead and getting that much to have available for other swaps this year, especially as I think various family members are about out of it also.
Melampodium is VERY easy to grow from seed, seeds are large ish and easy to handle. it self sows for me and I could share seedlings at later time as well. I didn't know they can be found in market packs.
Me too, coming to enjoy the company and food and few seeds is OK too.
I got you down for all you asked for. Do you want me to put them all in your bag that Jill always makes up?
Or--do you want to just look for all the seeds you wanted in my box?
The Stinking iris will only have 3 seeds in the package. There were not too many.
None of us know what this thing will really be like. Earlier last year--we had a small catch-up get-together
at sally's and I dug up a clump of this plant and took it down there. Both sally and Coleup got a piece--and they will
grow it out and see what's what.
This has been behind my bird bath for years. Out of sight--out of mind.
I remember--years ago--planting these small Lilly starts there thinking they were babies from my Tiger Lily,
which used to grow in that area. When I found some small starts right by the base of the Tiger Lily,
I naturally assumed they were babies from it. I dug them up and planted them in my Yuk bed. There they grew
to about 8"--and i decided to dig them up again, and plant them behind my concrete bird feeder thinking how pretty
it would look to have Tiger Lilies blooming above it.
Well--I never saw them bloom--and so pain no attention.
Last fall--as i was cleaning up some dead Lily foliage--I saw these big, open pods with bright orange,
pea sized seeds in them. WHOA!!! After a lot of postind and wondering what the heck this was--SallyG ID'd them
after Googling for them.
Right now--in all this cold--the leaves on these clumps are still green and upright. They are thin, sword-shaped
and kind of "sharp"...and coarse.
I will be eagle-eying this clump to see what the blooms look like this spring.
I have some milkweed seeds this year - they are hosts for monarch butterfly eggs and caterpillars. I ordered several different kinds. I don't know much about their growing conditions, but I know greenthumb does and he will be at the swap. I'll set some aside for you.
ss- I can give you 'Swamp Milkweed' which should love those conditions and NOT run rampant, like the common one does.
Monarchs like milkweed. A swallowtail likes parsely and fennel.
THese and many other caterpillars are specific in their likes, but these two plants should get you some caterpillars.
Monarch cats seem to come pretty late in summer to me.
I checked my milkweed seed packets. I have Pink Milkweed (Asclepias Syriaca), Showy Milkweed (Asclepias Speciosa), and Swamp Milkweed (Asclepias Incarnata). Saly, you said Swamp Milkweed doesn't run rampant, what about the other two kinds I have?
critter gave me the seeds originally, wonder how it did for her.
Yeah if you pick off the beetles you can probably outlive them. THey are big round and chubby-cute , so I let them multiply! I never had them on A syriaca, just the swamp milkweed.
I don't think the beetles did mine in; they just failed to resprout one year. I put some "babies" out last fall; we'll see if they made it. I'm going to sow some more... I definitely like the Asclepias incarnata (which despite its common name doesn't need a swamp; they're tolerant of a wide range of conditions including pretty dang dry). Maybe they are just "short lived" perennials and I need to make sure to let them self-sow or grow replacements every couple of years.
Asclepias syriaca not only runs, it's also said to have a mongo taproot. I've avoided that one! I'm pretty sure A. tuberosa is usually tropical/tender, but it makes a pretty splash of summer color, and some say that butterflies prefer it. I've noticed butterflies tend to favor whatever you have that's blooming, LOL.
Yeah, but again, if you're serving up the only milkweed in town...
Anyway, I've definitely seen monarch cats on the A. incarnata (white blooms) when I had it. I'm trying to get both white and pink "going" out there again. Winter sowing last year was really disappointing... maybe not enough winter? If Punxy Phil is right, I might have to stratify some seeds in the -- gasp -- freezer. LOL
I figure if several of us are trying to grow them out, that increases our chance of being wildly successful!
Sally, you're right... most butterflies seem to be extremely specific about host plants (where eggs are laid and which are eaten by the little caterpillars. A good "butterfly garden" needs both host & nectar plants... if you look for a list of hosts for our area, you may be surprised at how many you're already growing, and you may also find some that would be easy to add. (Thought I had a bookmark somewhere, but I'm sure not seeing it.)
SSG, I don't know for sure about A. incarnata being short lived, but that seems to be the experience Sally & I had with it. Toes-up for no good reason.
And yes, I think monarchs (and Sally's milkweed moth) are about the only cats (butterfly-enthusiast-speak for "caterpillar" LOL) that you'll find on the milkweed. Eating milkweed as caterpillars is what gives monarch butterflies a nasty flavor that birds avoid. Viceroy butterflies famously imitate the color patterns on monarchs, and birds avoid them also.
I wasn't sure where to post this - but, since I'll do everything I can to be at the swap & don't want to make my announcement then - here goes...Greg & I are relocating to Huntsville AL in the next few months...hubby before me & I'll follow once house is sold/selling - you won't get rid of me, I'll still be hanging out on MAF & I'll be coming up for follow-ups at Reed :-) so, this seed swap will be extra special - I'll get to see & hang out with a bunch of wonderful people who's become very dear to my heart! This will be an exiting journey for Greg & I, and just the fresh start we need :-) AND, I'll have a BIG garden! Hugs all, I'll cherish all the wonderful memories & friendships, y'all ROCK! Bec!
:-) It's somewhat long - but, I'll it short...new & improved job for hubby, 25-35% lower cost of living, slower pace of life, no commuting, fantastic housing, medical, the base, closer to his family in FL - H'vile area area is very much changing to the area for defense jobs, expanding, it's becoming the silicone valley of the south - then we'll have nature, mountains, the TN valley, friends already there, bigger yard for gardening :-) (I'll check on growing them Glads there, Jill) We'll be 1.5 hrs from Nashville, 3 from Atlanta, 6 from the FL coast...there are so many more positives, but there you have it :-)
That's great to hear. My husband and I (I keep saying that -- sorry to be so repetitive) keep mulling about moving someplace to retire (but where?). So I am always all-ears when I hear that anyone is moving. I don't know that we'll ever take the plunge because we hate to be inaccessible to family members and the DC area is so convenient, but we long to be so tempted that we do move. I think it is terrific to move -- and everyone I know who moves is really happy for the change.
This morning we were talking about moving to northern Michigan; a week ago it was the Delaware beaches. We are far from a consensus.
You'll love Alabama Becky. We went through there on the way to Pensacola and stopped one year in a park, stayed in a lodge, amazing scenery in Little River Canyon. Yeah live near a techies city like Huntsville though- the sticks aren't going to provide a lot of gourmet dining.
This end of TN, , countryside is gorgeous. Smokies, wonderful.
That's what I'm understanding, we'll be surrounded by the largest group of PhD's in the US - the Wheeler Preserve will be awesome to explore! So far the pros by far outweighs the cons - it's a FRESH & exiting new do-over for us & I'm looking forward to this journey! The cost of living, time & slower pace of life will be incredible!
Sounds like a dream come true--from your description.
Your own house...a larger garden...a quiet nice place to live...good stimulating area...
Who will miss a row house? Your move will be filled with all things positive.
We will miss you both---always will remember the first plant Swap at your house...under the canopies.
Bec, you are SOOOO lucky! I have been hounding Bobbin for years to sell this house & move down South somewhere where it is warmer and easier for us, but as long as his Dad is up here & his daughter, it's here, we stay & suffer in the cold winters. I can only hope we live long enough to make the move. I wish you the best of everything in your move, and especially a long, healthy & gardening life in a place where you can have several growing seasons. What zone will you be moving to? Will miss you but I can always find you here & at seed swaps from time-to-time. Looking forward to seeing you next week. Hugs, Judy.
Along with your "wish" lists, it's really helpful if you give a general description of your garden, what kind of plants you're interested in growing (flowers, veggies, fragrant, butterfly garden, etc.), whether you have sun or shade... we'll do lot of this chat in person, too, of course, but some people like to find a few things to drop into those "goodie" bags before trading begins. :-)
I've got family visiting through this weekend, so I'm going to be posting my "haves" list at the 11th hour! I did get some fun extras from another swap I participated in over the holidays.
My night-blooming jasmine is struggling, so no cuttings for now, hopefully in spring. I can offer seeds from it, though!
I also have a some oxalis "tubers." I think there are several different kinds, but I don't know which is which any longer, just that I have several little piles of them that I think are all "different." It may be simplest to just offer them as an assortment. I'll keep a few to fill in hanging baskets but will give away most of them this year, because Eliot can't resist eating them if he can reach them, and they irritate his mouth.
I have a feeling come next year I'll be on here, begging for plants!!! Gotta love flat-rate shipping! :) I know all the properties I'm looking at has 1/4 acre lots, so I'll actually have room to plant! I was doing some research & the soil is not user friendly - but, it won't be the heavy clay!! I'm sure there will be no planting this year, both due to time and energy, but just wait until next year!!! I'll be a planting/rototilling fool!
I wanted to forward something to you--a You Tube of cars driving on the Norwegian Atlantis Road.
It is both scary and beautiful.
Would you D-mail me your e-mail? Unless you have already seen this road in films and are not interested.
Here it is--only a week to go, and so few people have posted their "wants" or "haves" yet.
Is it the case of --same people--same seeds---so no need any more?
I, for one, added 13 new seeds to my "haves" list this year. Look for the *** on my list.
I guess not everyone is as anal and organized as I am--or try to be. Of course--I have all this free time...
I couldn't sleep at night if I still had to accomplish all that in one week's time...;~O
I can't even imagine how Jill functions by now--with all she is doing!
This is a belated response to Aspenhillís questions about Milkweed earilier in this thread. I grow 7 or 8 species of Asclepias, none of which are A. syriaca. If you want to save yourself headaches, promptly sow your A. syriaca seeds in the nearest trash basket. It is by far the most aggressive of the Milkweeds, is considered a noxious weed in many quarters and will end up where you donít want it. Asclepias speciosa is a western species, growing primarily west of the Mississippi River. It is hardy here but its native range suggests that our more humid eastern climate is not to its liking, so I have not attempted to grow it. Asclepias incarnata is a fine local native, as is A. tuberosa, a very hardy orange species that is the second most commonly seen Asclepias species in this region.
There are many Asclepias species that are suited to our local climate and easy to grow. Species native to Virginia not previously mentioned are:
A. amplexicaulis-------Clasping Milkweed------------pink
A. exaltata---------------Poke Milkweed-----------------white
A. lanceolata-----------Few-Flowered Milkweed-----orange and pink
A. longifolia-------------Long-Leaf Milkweed-----------green/white
A. purpurascens-------Purple Milkweed----------------purple
A. quadrifolia-----------Four-Leaf Milkweed-----------pale pink
A. rubra------------------Red Milkweed-------------------pink
A. variegata------------Red-Ring Milkweed------------white w/ red ring
A. verticillata-----------Whorled Milkweed--------------white
A. viridiflora------------Green Milkweed ----------------green
Seeds should be surface-sown and either placed outside by late February, or given a month in the fridge before moving outdoors for best germination. Once planted in-ground they do not transplant easily because of their taproots. Most will grow with part-day shade.
I looked at my records from last season, and you had given me A. verticillata (whorled milkweed) and A. perennis (white milkweed). Ok, sowing my A. syriaca seeds in the nearest trash basket now LOL. I guess A. incarnata is a keeper.
I walked over to the Burpee seeds just now (I am at work) and we do carry the Arugula "Rocket Wild Roma".
That is the full name on the seed packet. International coillection..
Harvest 35 days. $1.19 a packet. Will buy 2 packets...such a BIG spender--I is!!!
UPDATE: I just put in an order for enough polymer moisture crystals to last until Joyanna goes to college... unless I share! I'll have a final price on them soon (when I know shipping), but we got an extra discount, and it looks like it'll be around $5 - $5.25/pound for the medium size (about the same size as "soilmoist" and other brands you'd find locally). That's an awesome price!) We'll have small crystals and powder available, too. I only got 2 pound bags of those, so we may be doling it out by the quarter-pound, and it'll be more than the medium. I ordered 10 pounds of the large size, as well, which I like for planting trees, shrubs, and other large perennials (I just mix a few in with the medium crystals). I like the small crystals for miniature violets and seedling flats. The powder makes a great "gel" for dipping/planting or wrapping/shipping bare root plants.
If you want to discuss any aspect of the moisture crystals in more detail, please start another thread for that so we can stay focused on the swap here. The crystals have their admirers and their detractors, and it's a pretty polarized discussion, not unlike the debate over using peat moss or the older one re. pressure-treated lumber.
I'm finally getting around to sorting out some SEEDS today! LOL I'll post a list soon of a few things I've already packaged up. I also have a lot of single packets to share...
Does anybody else like the idea of setting up one table for "free to good home" single packets? I'm wondering if anybody else has "orphans" in their seed stash... Most seeds are good for at least 5 years, some for much longer... and if it doesn't get planted by somebody, then for sure it won't sprout!
I usually put out a couple of baskets with these random seeds, but I thought we'd have the room this year to give them a table where everybody could sort through and find treasures. ?
That's a good point, too. And if we have a table to use for treasure-hunting from that "pot" rather than just my little basket with the "free to good home" sign, it might make it easier for people to drop by, look to see if there's anything they can use, or even drop off their own "orphan packs." Any leftovers, I might hold onto some for next year, and the rest will be shared either with new gardeners or with next year's Piggy Swap (which has provided a lot of the "orphan packs" I've offered in the past few years).
Remember, just because it's neglected at the bottom of *your* seed box doesn't mean somebody else won't think it's a "find!"
OK, now I'm feeling like I need a pirate treasure chest for that table... LOL
Sure! Think of it as "The Island of Misfit Seeds." Whether they're new seeds that are just not "treasures" to you or seeds in an older packet that you just don't think you'll plant again in the next few years... those would be candidates for needing "a good home!"
Most seeds are "good" for a lot longer than people think. Even if the germination percentage on a pack of tomato seeds has dropped by as much as 60% in, say, 8 years, if the pack has 15 seeds, you'd still get 6 seedlings.
If your seeds got wet or really hot during storage, then maybe not... but most of our seeds have fortunately stayed out of flooded basements & hot attics!
SSG, the list may be long but many of the seeds seem impossible to come by. I am still searching for Asclepias lanceolata, longifolia, quadrifolia, rubra and variegata. If you run across any of these, please count me in or pass along the source information---I'll do likewise.
I will give you some seeds to try out and see what happens. A Mystery...
Story: Last year--this woman at my HD was having lunch--and she was eating a BLACK
sweet pepper. It was shaped and looked just like a green pepper--but it was black.
She said she got it in a Grocery Store. I have NEVER seen one--have you?
Well--I took the seeds from it and am wondering if it would actually grow and produce
a black pepper again. What are the odds???
You are the perfect "Guinea Pig"...you grow all kinds of things. So--I am giving you some.
I may seed one or two seeds myself--just out of curiosity. Then we can compare notes...:o)
Hey--what do you know?? I Googled it and there really is such a thing! WOW!!!
Gita, you're always on the lookout for something new! Two potential issues with those seeds... they are most likely hybrids, so the next generation I bet would be mostly "regular" green peppers, but you never know. I'm not sure we'll get them to germinate, because most purple & black peppers ripen to red when the seeds are mature... but again, you never know, and if we don't sow the seeds then for sure we won't get anything from them! Like you, I've seen purple & other colors, but never black. And from the grocery store! Cool.
I'm figuring that if we get just an inch or two, roads should be clean and clear by/before mid-morning... but if that suddenly turns into 10 inches, we'll have to look for a "snow date." Let's not cross that bridge until we come to it... right now, accuweather & noaa both think there's nothing much happening on the weekend. (For both York, PA and Frederick, MD, NOAA shows slight chance of snow or rain Friday night, sunny Saturday with temps over 35... for DC, NOAA doesn't have anything happening Friday night even.)
Becky, you need to pick a date and have a "plant dig." I'll come! New thread, though, please?
Bec_No_Va wrote:Hey all - IF we get snow on Saturday, I probably won't make the drive - that being said - I have plants that needs good homes, in case buyers decide to get rid of them - WHO wants to dig'em up?????
I can offer my muscle and energy to dig plants for anybody. I like to think that when vacate our splotch of green earth that we made it more enjoyable and beautiful for those who come after. Unfortunately, that isn't always the case. I know quite a few people who don't want any plants or landscaping. They claim it's too much maintenance, what a shame.
I hope that isn't the case here because a mature landscape is something we all strive for and takes years, decades to evolve.
Got an email from Summer Hill Seeds! Robin has added 50 more varieties to her seed list (and she has a lot of unusual seeds) and is offering free shipping on any order over $30, from now through Feb. 20. Use code "FEB2014"
You know, in case the Seed Fairy doesn't bring what you're hoping for on Saturday!
Yes, ENABLER... I checked out the website and ended up ordering unusual vine seeds and some misc annuals, columbines, and violets. When it is winter, the confidence about what you can accomlish in the upcoming gardening season is a wonderful thing. It doesn't seem overwhelming at all until all the seeds, bulbs, and plants that have been ordered actually start arriving LOL!
SSG, your 2 plants were indeed out in the "nursery corner" (was supposed to be a sort of gravel patio, but it works so well for pots!)... I think the recent wind got them a bit droopy, but the coloring is still very pretty!
Terp, check the Santa Rosa site for it... if they have it & you want it, I can add it to my order for you (and you won't have to pay shipping).
David, I was determined not to bring home any seeds but then you have to post 'lemon catnip'. May I have a few seeds please. My cats just love catnip and this one seems like a smaller plant. I think a pot of it on the deck will be nice this summer and then I can dry it for the winter. Got to keep the kitties happy. ;^)
Not bring home any seeds!?! ooh noooo, you know we'd never allow that!
David, I'd love a pinch of your lemon catnip also (Eliot hates it, but I like it in tea), and also a few seeds of Echinacea pallida (am I remembering that the "pale purple" is one that's a little more shade-tolerant? must check)
Coleup- I have dmailed you, Robin and Gita about our travel. We'll shoot to leave here around 945 or ten am to get there at eleven. Mark is coming along and driving. I have enough seats and some room for plants. Please reply to dmail, or call, by 9 30 am Saturday, if we are giving you a ride.
Snow/temps might stop me from coming up, my body don't do too well with these temp changes and I've been on strong pain meds for nearly 2 weeks now :( This area has snow forecast for tonite/most of tomorrow :(
"Invoices" for ADR and a few other things have gone out, LMK if there are any questions or problems. Touch of Nature still has to be totaled, but if you know the cost on what you ordered you can figure shipping as 10% of your total plus $1. Still need to figure caladiums, too... no worries.
Becky, I can only speak for myself though I'm sure others would agree, that my wishes and prayers are for your continued health and well-being first and foremost. Your 'hero' status is well established and needs no heroics beyond your continuing to follow your own wisdom as to what you need at this time, and each moment of your day.
That DC rain/snow line is always hard to call, but for sure cold temps and wind chill are arriving even as I type this.
I understand that seed swaps have "seed fairies" who bring collected seeds to those who can't attend. I'm sure all those heart warming hugs can be delivered the same way!
You're not going to BELIEVE the tray of seeds that Bluespiral dropped off Friday afternoon. There must be 300 packets in there! She swore they were all "orphans" from swaps she participated in this fall. Wowza! I think our table for single packets is really going to be a treasure trove!
Hope you all have a great time there. We have postponed our trip to Florida for a few days because DH has a tooth problem which took an emergency appointment yesterday. Should be good to go by Thursday.
I think I posted on the MAG seed starting thread also that I did a series of "Seed Starting 101" articles on everything from light shelves to preventing damping off. There are links to the others at the bottom of this first one: http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/464/ Certainly there are lots of ways to successfully start seeds; this is just what works for me.