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4th pic was in the same area- differdnt plant but the lighting angle worked better at that height. The tall ones are my main curiousity since the flower stalks are so different than what I grew up around. No more often than I come across these it is quite reasonable to assume they actually bloomed sometime ib the last 5yrs and the flower stalk doesnt know it is dead yet. One of these years I will catch a bloom recent enough to see...
