SOLVED: What are these trees/shrubs?

Portland, OR

Hello all,

I'm brand new to gardening and am taking a once-monthly class to help me get started. My "homework" is to identify the two large trees/shrubs in the back corners of my yard that cast shade over the yard, and how tall they are.

Here are photos of the first one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68988265@N08/8451011319/
And a close up of the leaves:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68988265@N08/8451009893/
This one looks like a shrub to me because of the cluster base vs trunk. My dad thought it might be a lilac.

Here is the other:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68988265@N08/8451010721/
Close up:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68988265@N08/8452101794/
And the trunk now that the leaves are gone:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68988265@N08/8451022957/

The leaves on the first one are gone, too.

Any ideas? Also, any advice on how to figure out how tall they are?

Thanks!

Groveland, FL

The first one looks like a Lilac. The second one is a Redbud.

Calgary, AB(Zone 3b)

Why don't you just google "figure out height of a tree" and take it from there?

Portland, OR

Thanks everyone!

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