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Since for as long as I can remeber ive drank coffe and no water,presently drink with the wife at least three pots day 12v cups in a pot,I am now 85 and still going strong,only problem ive ever had was two bladders,had one removed doctor said I was either going to be a twin or I had a diviticular hind of like a bubble on a tire,life wouldent be the same without our coffee.like folgers gourmet coffee