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OldWrangler
Spring, TX
March 6, 2013 12:30 PM Post #9440912
| Need your help again. This tree was in bloom about 3 weeks ago and now is finally putting out leaves. This is a big tree maybe to 30' tall and limbs are kinda pendulous. Bark is nothing special just like most barks. Now with little leaves someone should recognize it. Let me know.
Pictures are ...
1. Flowers
2. New leaves
3. More new leaves
4. Branch arrangement
5. Close up of new buds
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OldWrangler
Spring, TX
March 7, 2013 10:17 AM Post #9441871
| Now 37 people have looked at this and not even 1 guess. I never thought this would be that hard. Y'all have always nailled much harder ID's almost immediately. Is this one gonna be too tough? |
Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom (Zone 9a)
March 7, 2013 10:31 AM Post #9441885
| An elm of some sort.
Resin
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OldWrangler
Spring, TX
March 7, 2013 10:41 AM Post #9441892
| Leaves are about right but what about these flowers or drupes? It was one of my early guesses but I can't find a good match. Thanks |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
March 7, 2013 10:44 AM Post #9441897
| This is a listing of the Elms native to Texas
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ornamentals/natives/index... |
OldWrangler
Spring, TX
March 7, 2013 11:23 AM Post #9441924
| It is my understanding that most if not all Elms have a leaf that is lopesided at the base, one side being longer than the other. I have had another guess as Sugarberry tree and one of the Hackberries but none of them sound right because of the time of the flowers or the appearance of the bark being scaley or orange colored. |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
March 7, 2013 11:28 AM Post #9441930
| Here are images of the trees native to Texas...there are 11 galleries...if naught else they should work for comparison.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/ornamentals/natives/galle... |
growin
Vancouver, BC (Zone 8b)
 March 7, 2013 11:37 AM Post #9441935
| OldWrangler, my first thought was this pic of Celtis I took: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/319768/ looks similar except for the venation. |
Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom (Zone 9a)
March 7, 2013 12:37 PM Post #9441995
| OldWrangler wrote:Leaves are about right but what about these flowers or drupes? It was one of my early guesses but I can't find a good match. Thanks
Tricky, as they're at a stage (just after flowering, but before the seeds are fully grown) that isn't often illustrated. Try some more pics in 2 or 3 weeks, when the mature seed shape will be evident.
Resin
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purpleinopp
Opp, AL (Zone 8b)
March 7, 2013 2:30 PM Post #9442132
| If you're not sure what it is, you can't assume it's a native. |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
March 7, 2013 2:57 PM Post #9442155
| I just figure it is easier to eliminate known possibilities from the pool before you start your search for the unknown ones |
OldWrangler
Spring, TX
March 7, 2013 3:43 PM Post #9442183
| Couple more pictures. Bark, old leaves from under tree, limb and branch structure.
I am about 80% convinced it is Elm family which includes Hackberry and Sugarberry trees.
The old leaves are definitely uneven lobed at the base. Veining in the leaf is similar to some Elms, Hackberrys and Hawthorn. Bark doesn't show any clues as it looks like most furrowed barks. The flowers don't sound exactly right but close. I think we are in the right church and all we gotta do is find the right pew. Maybe this will have narrowed the search for someone. Thanks
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ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY (Zone 5b)
March 7, 2013 8:10 PM Post #9442426
| This was an Elm the first time around - and it's still an Elm now.
No possible way to be Celtis sp. or Crataegus sp. - both of those genera have fleshy fruits. |
OldWrangler
Spring, TX
March 8, 2013 5:23 AM Post #9442620
| I'm gonna just label it Elm species. Doesn't look like anyone can pin it down past that. Thanks for your help. |
OldWrangler
Spring, TX
March 20, 2013 3:11 AM Post #9455514
| Just in case anybody is interested we finally have an ID on this tree. It has leafed out and our county Extension Office says it is a Cedar Elm. But we all knew it was an Elm but now we know which one. Thanks to all of you. |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
March 20, 2013 5:43 AM Post #9455615
| Glad you got a positive ID Old Wrangler. |
