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kinard
Wewahitchka, FL

March 23, 2013
9:28 PM

Post #9459704

I will keep u busy with all my questions! Is this a warbler?

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flatpickit
Charleston, SC

March 24, 2013
6:32 AM

Post #9459866

Looks like a Yellow-rumped Warbler to me.

http://www.carolinabirdclub.org/gallery/Austin/yrwa.html

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

March 24, 2013
12:24 PM

Post #9460279

Myrtle Warbler (formerly included in Yellow-rumped Warbler)

Resin
flatpickit
Charleston, SC

March 24, 2013
4:06 PM

Post #9460491

The Myrtle Warbler is CURRENTLY "included in Yellow-rumped Warbler" in North America. What you may call "Myrtle Warbler" and "Audubon's Warbler" are officially conspecifics, meaning they are of the same species (Yellow-rumped Warbler). They may have been treated as separate species in the past, but now, your picture is actually of a Yellow-rumped Warbler. The sub-species we have in the east is known as "Myrtle".

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

March 24, 2013
4:12 PM

Post #9460505

Hi flatpickit - They were split recently:
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/n-finches.html (scroll down to Parulidae)
http://www.worldbirdnames.org/documents/TheYellow-rumpedWarblerspeciesgroup.html Details

Resin
flatpickit
Charleston, SC

March 24, 2013
5:50 PM

Post #9460623

Resin,

The official source of the taxonomy of birds found in North America is the North American Classification Committee (NACC), which is an official committee of the American Ornithologist's Union (AOU). The last proposed split of Yellow-rumped Warblers failed. The vote was 7-4 in favor of "further genetic analysis and determination of the extent of interbreeding in the subspeciesí contact zones". So, for the time being, the bird in the photo is still a Yellow-rumped Warbler, despite changes by organizations elsewhere. Birders in North America are not seeing the split you referenced on any checklist or in any field guide specific to North American birds.

http://blog.aba.org/2011/05/bulletin-new-splits.html

http://checklist.aou.org/taxa/ (scroll down to Parulidae)

Also, I've noticed your naming of Sandwich Terns in North America as Cabot's Tern. This change has not happened in North America either.

http://blog.aba.org/2011/09/bou-splits-with-aou-relevance.html

I hope my posts do not sound harsh. I don't mean it that way. You are obviously skilled at bird identification, and you always seem to post with a great attitude.

Resin

Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)

March 24, 2013
6:27 PM

Post #9460656

Hi flatpickit - we're in an international forum here, so we use the IOC list, which - being global - supersedes the views of any regional or national bodies such as the AOU, BOU, NACC, OBC, SACC, etc.

Resin
flatpickit
Charleston, SC

March 24, 2013
6:56 PM

Post #9460693

Hi Resin,

Can you please provide a link that shows this Dave's Garden regulation? It would seem that using names that are not recognized in the country or continent in which the photo was taken would serve to confuse those who submit the photo.
raisedbedbob
Walkerton, VA
(Zone 7a)

March 25, 2013
6:08 AM

Post #9460998

Come on, silly experts. everybody knows the real name should be "Butter Butt".

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