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koshki
Grosse Pointe Shores, MI
(Zone 6a)

March 31, 2013
10:26 AM

Post #9467633

I have a gorgeous Sapphire Indigo clematis that is growing in a container. I bought it on sale late season 2011. Last summer, after it grew right over the top of the 40" tuteur and back down again, it finally dawned on me that it is a non-vining clem.

So, it can't really be trained up a trellis. I don't have a good place in the garden to let it sprawl. So what should I do with it? I wasn't too happy with how it looked by the end of last summer.

I'd love to hear some suggestions.

Katherine

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marie_kap
Williamstown, NJ
(Zone 6b)

March 31, 2013
9:03 PM

Post #9468132

It is a very pretty Clem. I too have one that is non-vining and would like to hear some thoughts
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 1, 2013
9:53 AM

Post #9468626

I just love the waterfall look you show in your first photo, Katherine! I wouldn't change a thing.

Generally Fine Gardening has such great ideas for displaying plants but for Sapphire Indigo they simply say it's good as a ground cover to shut out weeds. That may be true but the stems, on the ground during winter, would still collect leaves that need hand picking to clean up the area, so I'd mount it on a stump (buy a stump if you need to) and use a tomato cage to show off the clematis in a pot.

http://www.finegardening.com/plantguide/clematis-sapphire-indigo.aspx

There are more thoughts on ways to use it under Design Ideas here: http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/plants/654/sapphire-indigo-clematis.php

Joy Creek cut theirs back drastically and it did fine:
http://joycreeknursery.wordpress.com/tag/atragene/

Good luck!
koshki
Grosse Pointe Shores, MI
(Zone 6a)

April 1, 2013
10:10 AM

Post #9468650

I think part of the problem I had last year was because the tuteur tapered at the top, and the shoots got too crowded. I just ordered a different tower that doesn't taper. I wish I had a sunny spot that needed ground cover. The only thing I have is filled with pachysandra. Do you think it would play well with that? It got to be a pretty unwieldy plant last summer, but I do love it.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 1, 2013
2:07 PM

Post #9468909

NO! It's a horror when the leaves from last autumn have to be cleaned up and I wouldn't touch the easy going pachysandra.

Something tall and not tapered sounds so ideal. Then it can still form a waterfall at the top.
koshki
Grosse Pointe Shores, MI
(Zone 6a)

April 2, 2013
2:43 PM

Post #9469978

Oh, boy you're right about the leaves! Cleaning them from the pachysandra is an annual argument between me and my DH. From my wheelchair, I can only reach about halfway through the bed to rake out the old leaves. But getting him to do the rest is torture! I should probably just hire someone to help me. That way they might not like what I ask them to do, but they will do it (and probably without as much grumbling!)

He does have other redeeming qualities, however!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 2, 2013
3:06 PM

Post #9469991

True, it's a pain. Hiring someone is the best way to avoid conflict. Life is too short for that!

We don't have pachysandra but our neighbor does and the landscapers (truly mowers/blowers/edgers) just blow the leaves out of her pachysandra and they do not rake them out. That might be an option for you.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2013
1:59 AM

Post #9470399

This will be year 2 for 2 non vining varieties.I just plant them with lilies an in the back area where there is space and let them wander.
#1 Petite Faucon web pix
#2 My only bloom on year 1

The other clem is integrifolia (sp) no pix as no blooms yet

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 3, 2013
6:41 AM

Post #9470518

Love the color!
figaro52
Oak Lawn, IL
(Zone 5a)

April 9, 2013
6:55 PM

Post #9478173

The photos above look very similar to Durandii, one of my favorites because of it's long bloom season. Mine doesn't cling or climb, but fortunately has a vertical habit. I grow mine next to a 6 ft. lattice trellis and fasten it to the trellis as it grows.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 10, 2013
1:12 AM

Post #9478411

Its a beauty

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