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kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
12:02 AM

Post #9508586

Bought at the nursery, unmarked. Would like to know what it is. First two pics... I also got a sharkskin (with about 8 pups) and a lovely americana variegata.

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GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
12:13 AM

Post #9508587

Looks like A. seemanniana (aka A. pygmaea). They're very tender.

Baja_Costero

Baja_Costero
Baja California
Mexico
(Zone 11)

May 5, 2013
12:25 AM

Post #9508589

More new agaves... you're on a roll. Can't help you on the ID question. Not sure that's an americana in the third pic, it looks sort of leafy compared to the ones around here. If it's a proper americana it will consume that entire area within a few years, especially if it gets regular water. Even if it doesn't. I planted one here that I don't water at all (6" rainfall this past year, with an 8 month-long drought), and it keeps on growing. A variegated americana can grow even bigger than the regular blue kind, which is already quite ample.

You can keep the Sharkskin on the dry side, and don't expect real fast growth there... my experience anyway. Here are three offsets I planted in the park a year and a half ago (biggest one was 3 gallon size upon release).

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kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
9:28 AM

Post #9509001

Thanks! I am questioning that "americana" one. It is so symmetrical and completely different than the one I already have. Mismarked does happen. Anyone know what it could be instead? The sharkskin is pretty in those pictures!

And, just great, I end up with another tender one. My poor poor attenuata bums me out. I must be more careful now I guess... I was very bad about winter. I failed to cover all the work we did last summer. :(
kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
9:34 AM

Post #9509011

Ok, question... Tender how? To frost? Heat? I can't find much info...

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
9:52 AM

Post #9509027

Looks like stock A. americana marginata from here. It won't get as large nor grow as fast as plain Jane A. americana, but should still manage 5'-6' across some day.

Baja_Costero

Baja_Costero
Baja California
Mexico
(Zone 11)

May 5, 2013
10:05 AM

Post #9509042

They get to 8-9'+ here. Are they "Aurea" then?

This message was edited May 5, 2013 10:07 AM

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
11:08 AM

Post #9509129

Are you referring to the ones with the big super floppy leaves? If so, they do get enormous, but they are apparently variegated A. salmiana v. angustifolia, rather than A. americana.

Baja_Costero

Baja_Costero
Baja California
Mexico
(Zone 11)

May 5, 2013
11:30 AM

Post #9509152

Well, that explains the difference then. Thank you. Quite a few of those around here.

This message was edited May 5, 2013 10:36 AM

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
11:55 AM

Post #9509173

One of my favorite Agaves and on my want list. I'd take that over americana any day -- if I had the room! There is one in the area here about 7' tall and 12' across. It never pups, I've looked.
xuling
Windsor, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 5, 2013
5:21 PM

Post #9509629

My 'Sharkskin' and x 'Sharkskin Shoes' are very slow growers, but the shoes puts out lots of pups. Thankfully they don't pup far from the parent; and take forever before they are large enough to be separated. xuling
kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
10:07 AM

Post #9510511

GermanStar, I have a bunch of pups on that one. Message me if you'd like one and I'll drop it the mail. :) I left the pups on it, they were just starting to sprout out. A lot of them!

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
10:22 AM

Post #9510522

One like this?

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kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
11:26 AM

Post #9510589

This one (you thought Aurea, right?)... I also have sharkskin pups.

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kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
11:35 AM

Post #9510600

Here are better pics. It has about 6 pups about to pop out.

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kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
11:42 AM

Post #9510610

See this is my americana... That's why the shape of this new one confused me. This one has not pupped yet, but when it does I'll gladly share.

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GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
11:43 AM

Post #9510612

kinym wrote:Here are better pics. It has about 6 pups about to pop out.

Thanks, but that is just A. americana marginata as I had previously indicated, not the far more exotic A. salmiana v. angustifolia. Very different animal.

This message was edited May 6, 2013 11:46 AM

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
11:45 AM

Post #9510613

kinym wrote:See this is my americana... That's why the shape of this new one confused me. This one has not pupped yet, but when it does I'll gladly share.


No, that appears to be A. salmiana v. angustifolia (hard to be certain at that small size, but it seems likely). In my small experience, they are very stingy puppers.
kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
12:24 PM

Post #9510652

Hahaha ok... So the yellow one IS Americana. And the one I thought was Americana, a lovely gift from Domehomedee, is not Americana. PHEW! Very confusing. Got it.
kinym
Carmichael, CA
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
12:43 PM

Post #9510685

Dee had said it was pupping a lot, constantly spreading... She may have more pups. It was quite a hit smaller in summer and has really taken off.

GermanStar

GermanStar
Fountain Hills, AZ
(Zone 9b)

May 6, 2013
1:15 PM

Post #9510712

Just wait, it's only just starting. Looks like you gave it a lot of room, smart move.

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