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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

May 22, 2013
1:49 PM

Post #9530068

Can anybody think of one, I am a frugal sort, not to mention that I have very little money. Does English Ivy make a good trailing plant in a birdbath/fountain? I have some of that and I've started it by cuttings pretty regularly.
Thanks, Will p.s. Here is a photo of the fountain, I'm hoping a plant like that at least in the bottom, biggest bowl.

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BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 22, 2013
6:53 PM

Post #9530457

English ivy should trail nicely. I'm assuming your not going to have water runing through fountain. A trailing plant on top and a few small fish in large one on the bottom would also be beautiful. But of course then you would have to keep water moving through it I think. I've seen tropical fish in some like tht instead of in an aquarium. If your location gets too cold they might not make it through a winter tho.
That is a beautiful fountain and has lots of possibilities.
Good luck with it.
Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

May 22, 2013
9:12 PM

Post #9530632

Thanks, I think I'll try English Ivy then, I've become quite a fan of English Ivy lately.
I run a small, cheap "clean water pump" from HarborFreight in it. It's only 190 gph and it only costs $9.99 on sale about 5 years ago and I just started using it recently. It's this one. - http://www.harborfreight.com/200-gph-miniature-submersible-fountain-pump-68372.html It wasn't called a "fountain pump" and the gph was only 190 then, not 200 like it says now, but everything else is about the same. I'm not sure what they mean by "fountain", mine would be a "fountain" application but I don't know if maybe they mean a fountain-like spray in the HarborFreight description. Mine said "clean water only", but I'm going to run it until it stops running! So far it's still going, I have it inside of a window screen enclosure type thing I made to hopefully keep any larger debris out for awhile.

Thanks for the compliment on it, Bonnie, it is a beautiful fountain, I got it when my Dad passed away, those big fountains aren't cheap. Of course, I'd rather have my Dad than his fountain, but all the stuff in my garden was either free or very cheap.

It freezes every Winter here, I'm sure there's not enuff depth for any fish, it sometimes goes down to -5 in the Winter here. Maybe I'll get some feeder goldfish and put them in a bucket in the garage for the Winter, they're only I think $1 for a dozen of them, if you get the small ones, I used to see them when I bought crickets for my lizard.
Will
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 24, 2013
7:28 AM

Post #9532313

Will, glad you have a memory of your dad. Good luck with the plants and good idea for fish.

Bonnie
helenchild
Decatur, GA

May 29, 2013
5:02 AM

Post #9538020

Trailing Jenny might be another good choice. I had some in my water fall and it did beautifully as a water plant.

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BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

May 29, 2013
4:00 PM

Post #9538692

Sweedish ivy is also another good trailer. I have it all along one side of my pond. If ti dies back in your area during winter it will surly come back in the spring.

You may get some more ideas if you go to the vines and climbers forum.

Bonnie

crestedchik

crestedchik
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

June 5, 2013
6:05 PM

Post #9547832

if there is water in it sweet potato vine,the chartreuse or purple grow like crazy and trail over the edges,and all you need is cuttings...
FrillyLily
springfield area, MO
(Zone 5b)

June 9, 2013
10:02 AM

Post #9552129

I second the creeping jenny. It is also perennial so you can plant a piece in the ground and put it back in your fountain next spring.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

July 17, 2013
6:11 PM

Post #9602860

Thanks you guys. The thing about Sweet poitato vine is it isn't hardy. I'd need some of it again in the Spring.
I'm up for some work but I don't know about that much. I may just try the Creeping Jenny, there is some here.
The Swedish Ivy sounds good but it sounds like something I will need to buy. I only have enuff money for a phone call so that rules it out,! :lol I started some English Ivy cuttings and I have them sitting there while they root.
I try to keep a little water in there for now and I rotate the 2 pots. -
Nice pond, Helen, and I like that Trailing Jenny, is that the same as Creeping Jenny?
Thanks Bonnie.
Will

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

July 18, 2013
1:26 AM

Post #9603209

Will

I have creeping jenny growing around my pond and in my bog. It comes back every year and in the spring we are teated to bright yellow flowers. It may be worth looking into.
helenchild
Decatur, GA

July 18, 2013
4:59 AM

Post #9603314

YEs, trailing jenny is probably the same as creeping jenny.
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

July 18, 2013
5:52 AM

Post #9603352

Some of the mints will also trail. You can snip what you need for the kitchen.
helenchild
Decatur, GA

July 19, 2013
5:26 AM

Post #9604621

Mints are vigorous but I never thought of putting them in the pond! Must try!.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

July 19, 2013
6:13 PM

Post #9605535

Thanks, I think I'll try that Creeping Jenny. We have some out in the yard, we tried to get it to spread like a groundcover out there. It never did spread, (there is no grass because of full shade out there). We've tried grass seedIt's slowly disappearing, before it does, I'll get some for the big fountain. The mints I've had aren't hardy though. I'd like something that'll winter outside okay.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I don't know what people would do without input from others. I don't now about anybody else, but I don't know everything.
The simplest of things can go undiscovered to somebody until somebody else says something. I sure do appreciate what everybody has to suggest.
Will
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

July 19, 2013
7:52 PM

Post #9605620

Will, I grow baby tears in my complete shade. I also grow it in the lining of my baskets. It eventually covers the whole bottom of my moss baskets. It does freeze in the winter and go brown but it comes back. Last year we got down to 18 degrees. In the courtyard it did not brown but in the open it did. It spreads nicely and I think also re-seeds itself. It appeared in my landscape about 9 years ago. Came in with another plant probably. Now I just dig up a shovel full and cut it into small pieces and plant or stuff it where I want it. I have seen it at the nurseries in flats.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

July 19, 2013
8:47 PM

Post #9605659

I tried to find a photo of mine but I pulled this off the internet. It says it is hard to grow. Here in the dry, but irrigated Las Vegas, it either grows like a weed or does not grow at all. It does not like our full sun but what would. I do hsve it growing in filtered sun.

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

July 20, 2013
9:08 AM

Post #9606013

I read a little about that Baby Tears, it sounds like a neat plant. But I bet it isn't hardy here, it snows here pretty regularly in the Winter. If you find that photo of yours we'd love to see it. LV is quite alot different than here. People from here go to Las Vegas in the Winter..lol Thanks, I do wish it was more suitable for it here.
Thanks again, Will
elfenqueen
East Tawas, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 29, 2013
8:24 AM

Post #9615216

Any plant you use in water may have to be placed back into the ground for winter---- this should be no problem if it is in a pot... just dig a little hole and sink pot and all till spring. Or place it in a storage place such as garage..also, you might consider a house plant...indoors for winter out for summer, I do this with many plants, tropical water lily, lemon tree ... Persian shields do well in a pond but not so sure about moving water and they don't trail. AH! with no other plants in it you can do a wandering jew / moses in the boat... bring it in for winter. Beautiful and loved the water.

Best of luck... your fountain is wonderful!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

July 29, 2013
8:41 PM

Post #9615991

Thanks elfenqueen. A fan of Lord Of The Rings are we? Let me guess you like the guy with long white hair?! Thanks, that fountain really is so wonderful. I should put some more work into it and make it a centerpiece of something. The base one is so heavy it takes 2 people to move it, not just any 2 people! 2 people that don't mind possibly hurting themselves, so that's me and one other bold sort! I finally got it moved to a better spot in May so now I need to concentrate on making it purdy for passers-by. I have noticed people look back here, (it's in the backyard), I just need to focus on stuff filling out, (plants, about 100 in sight for passers-by). It's ironic that you say put stuff in the ground. What's ironic about it is that my roommate, (the homeowner), she finally pulled rank on me about my waterpond, ("it's a hole-in-the-ground-that-breeds-mosquitos"). Last October she and a co-worker filled it all the way in with a pile of dyed black mulch, (later, it had occurred to me how bad black mulch is) that I had sitting around. Anyway, now no waterpond, but I have an excellent little area now to bury pots of plants that might be marginal and/or I really don't wan't to lose them over the Winter due to any cold spells on a potted plant. Even though it's like walking on a sponge there, it is easier than ever to bury potted plants in this spot.
Thanks for the compliment on the fountain, I just love it and I am glad to have it.
My Dad was into concrete statuaries and my other siblings and other family also has some but mine is by far the biggest and best. I am glad that my stepmom asked me to come and get it. I'll post a photo of it back in the day outside his living room window (yes, that's a mobile home) and it 2 days ago in the backyard here. Anywho, I'd really like those English Ivy cuttings that I started there to look presentable in that fountain eventually. So far, they seem to be okay with things, maybe they'll bush out and do me proud there yet! I've been rotating those 2 little square pots so one of them is always sitting in water. I'm hoping to get them acclimated to water good enuff, because someday I would like to have them sitting in it real good, (mostly submerged). I can't have them both sitting in it on the different tiers because the middle tier drains down to the bottom tier and I can't fill them both up yet because of the mosquitos, they will breed in it. My friend here will topple anything that she says holds water and will breed mosquitos. I don't think she can topple that fountain by herself, but she can gouge my eyeballs out when I'm asleep I'm pretty sure! I'm just being stupid, all I'm saying is I want to keep her happy or I'll find myself sleeping in the woods! lol That's quite encouraging though, elfenq, I may just find something (or somethings) that aren't hardy here but very pretty and do the "Spring move out-Fall move in thing".
Thanks again all, Will

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

July 29, 2013
10:13 PM

Post #9616039

In the winter you can put Thanksgiving and Holiday decorations in it.
elfenqueen
East Tawas, MI
(Zone 5b)

July 30, 2013
12:14 AM

Post #9616066

Will,
You need mosquito dunks... I throw them in everything wet, ponds, tires, fountains etc... kills those larva flat- gone and no room mate stress. With everything I've got going on I still only use a partial package in one year. pm me your addy and I'll send you one to try... I doubt you'd need a 1/4 dunk for your fountain at a time...last about a month a dose. Unless you empty it or heavy rains wash it out - then you have to treat again... doesn't hurt birds. If you'd like to try it... I'll help.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

July 30, 2013
9:47 AM

Post #9616424

Ok, it's a deal!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

July 30, 2013
12:28 PM

Post #9616575

That's a good idea, Sharon! It's shaped like a Christmas tree. I may drape garland and presents over and in it, I forgot to say that, it really is a good idea. I am just the type to do that too, it's not really nuts, it's kinda cool!
Thanks, Will
FrillyLily
springfield area, MO
(Zone 5b)

July 31, 2013
7:23 PM

Post #9617898

mosquitoes can't breed in moving water, they have to have calm still water.
You can also add a little bit of bleach to a fountain if there are no fish in the water.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

July 31, 2013
7:34 PM

Post #9617912

At first, I was using my little 190 gph HarborFreight pump for that very reason, to keep the mosquitos away. I don't think it was enuff movement actually, it still had mosquito larvae in it, that pump didn't move much water. I was trying to keep the costs down with a small pump but it didn't help there. Now, I don't want a pump because I'm trying to avoid the look of wires and hoses. And besides, my friend here might flip out because of the electricity it uses. It is a clean water pump but I was using it in the pond anyway, it always worked fine. I'll use it again someday, I want a pond, but this isn't my yard and the homeowner don't want a pond..lol
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 1, 2013
5:59 PM

Post #9618850

See? I once had a beautiful little waterpond! - Here it was a couple of years ago and here the spot is now, (2nd pic). That Lilac in the front of it is quite a bit bigger, it's still in the same pot but it is bigger. - In the 3rd photo is the Lilac today in that pot, there's what's left of that Japanese Water Iris from the first photo, (it now has it's own, brown, pot as it's pond was taken..lol) The Hardy Water Lilies from the first photo didn't make it. You can't tell it's a Persimmon tree there, but it has grown considerably even from then, just look at the trunk!
In that first photo you can see the clothes-line pole real good and a Hall's Honeysuckle was there but it was quite small. Today, you can hardly see the pole, the Honeysuckle vine has grown ALOT, (in the 2nd pic)! In the third pic you can see the English Ivy in the fountain real good, (I am counting on them)! In this real short Youtube videoclip, (no talking and only 37 seconds) I made a while back you can see and hear it more. -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfFOvOo5_c8
My cheap little Harborfreight pump was making that trickle sound!
Oh, and here is that 'President' Cannas, actually, it's now "Cannas" they have multiplied a great deal! - Last pic (the big, red plastic pot)
Will

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BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 2, 2013
4:39 AM

Post #9619098

I see a little humpback bridge in one pic. I love them and would like a 12 foot one across my larger pond. When finances permit maybe my husb. will cut the cross pieces and I can screw deck pcs. in place.
You definitely have a flare for gardening and I hope someday you have a yard of your own which I'm sure you would make extremely attractive.
Gardening is good for the soul.
Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 2, 2013
9:46 AM

Post #9619366

Thanks Bonnie. Yeah, that bridge is very small. One good thing about that is it's easy to lift and move around by yourself! That little bridge will hold people's weight easy, like walking over it. If you already have a little one just copy it's construction to a bigger one and it'll hold several people's weight at one time likely. I like that one small so trolls and billy goats can't get under it! lol That bridge is tied to that tree because when there's a heavy rain it'll carry stuff away back there. There is a small creek-like drainage thing in the yard, in 1998 for ex. a neighbor's 500 lb. bridge washed into this yard. Actually, that is still here in the same place because those neighbors didn't get along then and the lady here wouldn't give it back. That bridge isn't even decorative, it was just made to cross this drainage ditch. It's got a concrete and metal frame with untreated 2 x 6's screwed to the top, it's hideous looking now. It'll take a pack mule and a team of people to move it.
Apparently, Biglot's doesn't sell that one anymore, it was I think $59.99 10 or so years ago, I tried to find it there before I searched the web. Doctors Foster and Smith have one similar but I can't believe the price on it, $720! I don't know what the doctors are on but it isn't good prices on bridges! - http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10847&cmpid=11csesh&ref=3554&subref=AA&CA_6C15C=525477430

http://www.shopping.com/decorative-bridges-4-foot-big-lots/products?sb=1
With this selection (and prices), I think I'd make my own too. If I can help just let me know, I can give you the dimensions on it perhaps. Maybe it could be scaled up, we just love that bridge!
Will
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 3, 2013
4:21 PM

Post #9620585

Yes I saw the bridges on drs. foster & smith. Think we can beat their prices. Hub. and I have remodeled 4 homes so a bridge should be a snap. He told me to get him 2 -2X12 -12 feet long. All I need is a curvature cut out and then deck boards. Also, a hand rail would look nice. I'm dreaming again but it's possible. Only Problem would be getting 2 X's in position. If my little Kubota could lift them its ok. His large tractor can't get into garden anymore. My flower beds take up too much space. Where theres a will theres a way I always say. For a guy that welded all his life he is a pretty good carpenter. Built kitchen cabinets in 3 homes and 1 for our dgt. new home. He just won't build anything for anyone else. Thinks he's not good enough. Believe me he does a great finished job, plus lazy susans, slide out shelves, dbl. doors in corners for easy reaching by short me.
Have to wait for cooler weather but Will you now have me inspired again.
Thanks. Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 3, 2013
9:54 PM

Post #9620765

Hope you get the bridge your after. I know the little bridge here has brought me alot of satisfaction, oddly enuff. It is nice to want and be able to do anything diy.
It's always best to do something yourself, for example, you can use screws instead of thin staples. Just little things like that can make a big difference in how long it'll last for one! I got heavy lifting down to a science! I still have a good back and I'd like to keep a good back! If it's too heavy I'm putting it down, I know my limit..lol! I have many things to haul heavy stuff. I have a cart with pneumatic tires that holds about 1,000 lbs. I have a 2 wheeler, (or dolly, same thing), mover's dollies - http://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-capacity-movers-dolly-38970.html Over a garage floor or the driveway these can't be beat! I have (3) 800 lb capacity ones, they are only $7.99 on sale, I last used one to get rid of an old railroad tie that was here, it went to the curb on bulky item pickup trash day, that mover was invaluable for that. - It's smaller than the one I linked to, I don't see the smaller one, but they sell it, it's usually $9.99. Oh, and my trusty wheelbarrow, I use it often. Yeah, I wouldn't build anything for anyone else either, most of the time it's not appreciated and you always use your own money to buy the stuff you need, I can relate to your husband.
Welding is a good skill to have, if somebody can weld good they can do anything good.
Will

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 3, 2013
10:34 PM

Post #9620777

I so agree. My neighbor called me a few weeks ago and said her husband was out of town and her daughter was having a summer party because she was home from college. She needed me to come over and show her daughter how to clean the back patio and landscape.

Her daughter is a sophomore at Texas Christian university. "Chocolate covered hook". It was about 108 degree outside and I have helped them many times but it was my idea. They think nothing of spending over $100 on a bottle of wine. Quick thinking on my part. I told her, "she is a sophomore at TCU and I am sure she can Google "How to clean back landscape" and figure it out." I would usually start showing them how to do something and then take over and do the whole job. Now, I am 71 years old, more tired, and smarter. They do not even watch and learn anything. I was o proud of myself. Avoided that Chocolate covered hook. Just another word of wisdom for you Will from Mother Winter... But I think you have already figured these type of people out. Mother Winter...
mittsy
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2013
2:47 AM

Post #9620818

Good one!
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 4, 2013
7:14 AM

Post #9620936

Sharon

Unfortunately there seem to be many people like that. My favorite is when someone asks for help and then complains about how I am doing the task. That is when I drop the task like a hot potato!

My yard could use some cleaning up - but unfortunately with a broken foot it will have to wait. At least I can sit pond side and enjoy my fish!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 4, 2013
7:28 AM

Post #9620946

Haha! Yeah, I try to avoid the chocolate covered hooks! That's one reason that I don't drive a pickup anymore, I was always helping somebody move or move something, at my expense in it.

Yeah, you can Google, (or Bing) anything. I Binged what to do for blisters on my toes, not long ago, a cat was investigating, (kinda gross and smelly, sorry). That's pretty funny, to Google, "how to clean a patio"! I Ask or Dogpile, (lesser known search engines) the really stupid questions so they don't come up for people here when they search something in Google.
Thanks for the words of wisdom, Sharon, (Mother Winter). I am 46 and I have been learning in the last few years different things..lol
Will

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BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 5, 2013
1:31 PM

Post #9622288

OK Will now you have to learn how NOT to get blisters on your feet.
They can get infected so take care of yourself.
From Gr. Grandma Bonnie.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 5, 2013
1:53 PM

Post #9622306

Thanks Grandma Bonnie! Although, you don't sound like a Grandma!
You better be good or I'll have your husband weld your eyelids open!

But, on my feet blistering, it was just a case of breaking in new steel-toed boots and standing on your feet all day (12 hours) at a new job. Actually, that job didn't work out, on my 4th day an elderly man says, "if you can't do this job right your *** will be out the door"! I didn't even know who he was! They warned us in orientation about bitter long-timers there. I think some of the long-timers were looking at the temps like scabs, actually they were laying off the higher paying employees who been there forever. With overtime this elderly man could have been making around 100k a year, not bad for an army plant! Anyway, my boots are still new and I don't wear them because I left at lunch that day. It was just a little more than minimum wage then and I've already had better temp jobs since then, at that temp. co.
Will



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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 5, 2013
3:30 PM

Post #9622394

Will you are younger than my youngest. My Baby Boy turned 50 today.

I did some gardening today in increments. 106 degrees makes it impossible to be out side for more than 30 minutes. One time I was working in the shade and lost track of time. I was out there over an hour. I came into the house, got myself a good cold drink and I am chilling for a while.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 5, 2013
7:29 PM

Post #9622606

You don't sound that age either. Hey at least you have kids, I have none!

Eeek Sharon! That is kinda hot! Last year it got to 106 one day. But, there was several days over a hundred degrees. It was unusually hot and dry last year, 3 trees or plants died here in this yard last year, in other yards there was dead plants everywhere. Right now, it is only getting up to 80 to 85, not bad.

I just noticed the "Gr" in Bonnie's post, sorry, I was a little slow on the uptake on that! lol! She definitely don't sound like a great Grandma!
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 6, 2013
6:36 AM

Post #9622881

Hi Will,
I have 4 children, grown and married, 14 grands and 13 great grands.
Just wish more of them lived closer. My youngest son just turned 50 and he and his son love fish and ponds like me. When I clean the ponds they insist on helping and really know how to handle the fish properly to avoid damaging them.
If you check back in water gardens where it says new pond you will see 3 of them helping me dig new larger pond. They were such a huge help. I am planing on giving that son 5 acres of our land to build a new house on and he is so excited about having room for largers ponds.
I just hope he can sell his house for enough to afford bldg. Economy is in the dumps here just like everywhere else. Son in Cal. has 2 houses and can't sell either for enough to clearn mortgages or he said he would move back here. He is retired Air Force but has good job on Beal AR base not too far from his home. Would love to have him and fam. come back here too.

I'm like Sharon, work a while and dunk in pool a while and then back to work. I'm sure she is hotter than it is here in Fl. but it sure is hot. We changed planes in Vegas in June when we went to Cal. to see son and it was sure warm then. One day it was 106. Wouldn't you know they had a heat wave the weekend we arrived. I hope that unusual for them.
I'm originally from Conn. and they are having it hot too. Crazy weather. I am keeping my plants well watered.
Hope your ivy in fountain is doing good. I have it all over the place it spreads itself.
Happy gardening. Bonnie
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 6, 2013
6:58 AM

Post #9622897

Will look at new pond in progress thread. I think this will be the last pond I ever dig as we are running our of space and electric out front.
My house is about 80 years old so electric is stretched pretty far since we bought it 43 yrs. ago.
Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 6, 2013
11:24 AM

Post #9623119

Interesting thread over there at New Pond in Progress, Bonnie. Hey Happy Birthday to your sons, you too Sharon. Him(s) and me are about the same age, my 46th birthday is in 11 days. You and your husband's pond is nice, I liked all the photos, it really came along nicely. That English Ivy is doing fine, thanks. I'm glad cuttings of it start so easy.
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 6, 2013
5:26 PM

Post #9623480

Will HAPPY BIRTHDAY early in case I forget. Been quite a while since I saw 46. I had more energy than I knew what to do with at that age. I'll be 76 come Dec. and am very thankful I can keep going even if it is a little slower.
Take care,
Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 6, 2013
9:59 PM

Post #9623667

Awww thanks Bonnie! Oh, 46 is no big thing here, let me tell you! I no longer buy breakfast cereal according to what kind of toy is inside the box! I quit doing that about 5 years ago! lol Although, sometimes when it pours into my bowl, I can't help but think, "ohh, what is this?!" I have some pretty long lifespans in my blood, my maternal grandparents are both 92 and doing quite well. It's funny, I have been exactly half their age or close for a few years, they remind me on occasion!
Will

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 7, 2013
5:30 PM

Post #9624390

I dug up some Creeping Jenny, (it's the gold kind, I believe this one is also called Golden Moneywort) in the yard and potted it up a few days ago. I set it in the fountain so it can get used to that spot. I might cut that pot down and set it in the water permanently if it seems to be going to do okay. I squirted some bleach in the water a few days ago, that apparently wasn't enuff, the mosquito larvae is still there! Here's that Creeping Jenny. - That's a pot of the English Ivy to it's left. There's 2 pots of English Ivy in there, the other one is out of the photo.
Will

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BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 7, 2013
5:38 PM

Post #9624394

Forgot to mention: I frequently throw plants into my unused fountain which has a large base. I keep water in it and the plants sprout roots and keep on growing. Guess that wouldn't work for you cause it gets too cold there. During the summer maybe it would work for you. I have revived many plants by just throwing them in it. It's a good place to put plants until I find just the right spot for them where they will be happy. Water depth looks just about the same as your base is where you have the pots. The nursery pot of the right looks like the plant is a little too far down. Most plants like their faces in the sun but not sure about the kind you have in it.
The creeping Jenny we had up north was all joined by a crawling root and we used to get it out of the woods to make Christmas wreaths out of it. Was lots of fun.
Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 7, 2013
6:28 PM

Post #9624436

Thanks, I'll cut that black pot down to about half that height. This photo is full size, I put it in my Comcast webspace so it won't get resized like DG does to photos.
I'm not complaining I know DG does that to save space and stuff, no biggie.
Here it is full size, you can see the larvae better in it. -
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That sounds like a good plan on reviving plants, Bonnie.
I'm gonna cut that pot soon, that's a good point, if it doesn't make it, I don't want it to be by anything that I did.
Will
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

August 12, 2013
10:52 AM

Post #9628487

Will, if I can add my two cents' worth, there are just a few things...

You need to check to see if plants like English ivy (hedera) or Creeping Jenny (Lysimachia nummularia), both perennials, are invasive in your area. Around here, ivy is difficult to contain, and we must be responsible gardeners.

Any water movement will deter mosquitoes from laying eggs, even a small flow, because if it pumps from the top and spills over, you will have more movement. Also, you won't have mosquitoes if you have fish. Mosquito dunks work, but they are for standing water only.

Last: You don't need water in that fountain at all. With a little creativity and elbow grease, you can use plants in containers. Trailing plants like sweet potato vine (ipomoea) do a beautiful job of trailing as do some of the coleuses trailers. They can be overwintered indoors if you have the space. If you don't have the space, they can be rooted in water (yes you can root a sweet potato vine cutting). Cuttings are usually free from friends, so that cuts down on the investment. A couple of rooted cuttings in a pot of soil will take off. Coleus both bush and trail, depending on variety. You can root them in soil, but they need a bit more attention. Even with pest damage, the sweet potato vines project color. (I'd like to shoot those deer.)

With a minimum of water, your friend/landlord would probably love that. Check out the container gardening threads.

First photo is a black sweet potato vine with pinstripe petunias and a coleus in the center. Second is a coleus(Redhead) and another coleus which is I think is Florida Sun Rose. The third has mostly trailing chartreuse sweet potato vine.
Marcia

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 12, 2013
6:47 PM

Post #9628990

Thanks Marcia. I have 'Watermelon' Coleus. I love that Coleus though, it's real pretty and it starts fast and easy by cuttings. In fact, I just started several cuttings of them in soil about 10 days ago and they've already rooted. I don't have any Sweet Potato Vine. Earlier today, I did some stuff for that fountain. I cut down the Creeping Jenny pot so it can get more sun in the water. That was the 1st and 2nd photos, this 3rd one is the Coleus, I don't know if this kind will trail but it sure is pretty.
Thanks for chiming in Marcia, it's important to do this fountain job right.
Sure, I'm all for not having an invasive. But, my guess is they aren't going to be that kind of problem for me. The Creeping Jenny is slowly dying out in the yard and the Ivy doesn't seem interested in growing anywhere except where I plant it. It's not the regular green Creeping Jenny, it might be more invasive than this aka Gold Moneywort.
Will

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BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 13, 2013
1:12 AM

Post #9629196

Love those pink coleus. I have some coleus but its not that variety. Beautiful.

Bonnie
cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

August 13, 2013
8:39 AM

Post #9629483

Coleus need very little encouragement; a little warmth, a little love, and don't allow them to dry out. Indoors coleus need a good amount of artificial light. Outdoors they get enough of the spectrum even in filtered light and shade.

Some strains will be stronger than others. When cost is an issue and I need to purchase a plant, I go to the nursery/grower very early and buy small plants or seeds. Not my favorite place, but you cannot beat the prices at Walmart for seeds.

Every year I plant caladium bulbs in containers that I start indoors. A lot of color for a little price. Another plant that dies down in dormancy and needs to come in for the winter. Much prettier in person than in the photo.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 13, 2013
9:01 AM

Post #9629508

I had caladium bulbs last year. I put the pot by a flower bed to dry out and the gardeners (mow and blow) guys threw them in the trash. I never throw away a pot. I have a friend that comes by my house, takes cutting, grow them and then sales them on Craig's list. It helps supplement his social security. I order my coleus from Rosy Dawn. I have about 20 plants planted in one bed smack in the front of the landscape. They are now probably over a foot tall and bushy but hold each other up. I will try and take a photo sometime this weekend.

I had my birthday on the 4th, son and family came down from Spokane on the 2nd and we have had family for all that time in and out. They spent a few days in San Diego and daughter and her family went to Newport Beach, California. Everyone that can, leaves town the first two weeks of August. Everyone leaves this evening then back to normal for a day then the youngest grandson comes for a couple of days. He is 4. My daughter is going to help me with him.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 13, 2013
7:20 PM

Post #9630075

That's a good idea on Caladiums! I love Caladiums, maybe they'll like sitting in water!
I'll get a package of bulbs from Walmart of them in the Spring.
Yeah, that pinkish Coleus is nice. I only have one kind of Coleus, it's 'Watermelon'. Here the biggest patch of it is today. I've started the heck out of a hanging planter of it that I bought around 3 years ago for about $3. The 1st 2 photos are the same plant. This is what's left of the original plant, (after I cut on it) it had a little stub sticking out earlier in the year and I knew it would leaf out eventually, here it is now..lol
Will

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 14, 2013
4:38 AM

Post #9630264

Very pretty Will. I love coleus with all the vibrant colors.

I think I would try 1 or 2 of the caladium bulbs in the water and see how they go before putting all of them in. I think they will rot with too much moisture.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 14, 2013
12:11 PM

Post #9630582

Thanks Carolyn! I love my Coleus! Well, I have a birthday in 3 days. I wish I was more excited, but not so much, it's just another day. I'd love to grow older with a job, but as of now, with no job, not so sure!

Well, I got a big load (one cubic yard) of cedar mulch in my trusty, beatup (licensed..lol) trailer today! Oh, I just love putting down mulch, "I think I need a little here, a little over there", oh, there's nothing like mulching, (I'm easily entertained)!

Good idea on the Caladiums, I've been lucky so far, stuff has been okay with sitting in water, but prolly not everything. I am finding it hard to believe so much stuff is fine with sitting right in water. So far the 3 plants I've tried are fine with it apparently, Elephant Ears, English Ivy and Creeping Jenny. Oh, I was a big fan of Caladiums back in the day, (and still am). I was working on getting them used to my shade garden here. I have long since painted that wall white, that was so nasty then, well, painted in Sept. 2011. I believe the Caladiums got too cold in the unheated garage if I remember, they didn't come back. I have since learned to open the vent in there and it stays between 60 and 70 in the Winter. If I remember, a package of Caladium bulbs come in about 6 or 8 per package. But I really liked them, I liked the white ones with the red veins, they were prolly my favorite.
I bet Caladiums are good with sitting in water! They'll rot eh?! We'll just see! : ) They just look too much like Elephant Ears NOT to like sitting in water! I got my Mammoth Elephant Ears sitting in water and they apparently love it! Those bulbs were only called Mammoth Elephant Ears (at Walmart). In the last few years I've always had a problem with not getting them ENUFF water, so now they sit in it! lol I mean I couldn't even go out of town for 3 days without them being brown and dying. I'll post a photo of what they looked like last year when I was out of town for 3 days. - 4th pic. It was unusually hot and dry last year, but 3 days!? They weren't sitting in water then, like they are now! lol I have measured the leaves this year, several of them are indeed 20" long, I'll post a pic. - 5th pic. The EE leaves are like 90 to their stalks now, they look terrific. I usually don't fancy myself a braggart, but my Elephant Ears look incredible this year! Did I mention that I LOVE my Elephant Ears! In the second pic is my Elephant Ears 2 days ago and the third pic is my shade garden a few days ago. -
Oh, my big fountain is gonna look great and I owe it all to you guys!
Will


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cathy166
Stamford, CT
(Zone 6b)

August 14, 2013
4:42 PM

Post #9630830

Lovely colocasias. I think most aroids have a damp soil requirement as they are indeed tropicals. I don't think caladiums can sit in water too long without rotting. It might be that they can sit in water while they are growing but not dormant. There are some knowlegeable gardeners on the aroid forum who know more than I. If you can keep those bulbs around 60 degrees, I don't think you'll have a problem.

You have done a great job. I'd hire you for landscape or yard cleanup any time. They charge me $30 per hour per person plus a hauling/dump fee. It is expensive to live around here. That's why I try to overwinter some plants.

If you have any time on your hands, you can attend some of the free classes that nurseries often hold. They usually have good info and ideas on plants in your zone.

I think there is a Missouri Botanical Society with a lot of online info as well.

I am sure this birthday will mark the beginning of a good year. I don't like to celebrate my birthday and can't stand to have anyone sing happy birthday to me, but I will always accept gifts. (Long standing hangups.) At this point I am glad to live another year to celebrate. There is a lot of positive energy in that.

We had a heat wave in that started at the end of June an lasted at least three weeks. The plants needed to be watered twice a day. Cyperus is a great water plant. I wish you lived closer. I am always happy to share.
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 14, 2013
6:49 PM

Post #9630943

I have some elephant ear sitting in my larger pond right now and main problem is it is growing so fast it will flop over soon. I just cut it back and let it start again. May be due to the fact that it is very hot here but seems like I have left them in the water all winter before. If they get looking scraggly I just put them back in the ground for a while and they come back.

I love the way mulch dresses up a garden also plus keeps weeds down. It has been so hot here I melt after about an hour outside so the weeds can just stay there for a while. I herbicide anywhere I can that is no where near my plants but otherwise they have to come out by hand or hoe and then raked up and put into trash barrell for garbage men.
Happy gardening all,
Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 14, 2013
7:31 PM

Post #9631001

Thanks for the kind words. I love my Elephant Ears!
I wonder if I can get some Caladium bulbs at Walmart now? Yeah, Connecticut is one of the highest cost-of-living states there is. I believe the filthy rich like Regis Philbin and others from NYC live there across the sound. They work in NYC and make the big money then go to Conn. to live.

I hate to sound negative on my outlook, it'll be better someday I'm sure. I'll look up that Cyperus.
Will
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 14, 2013
7:33 PM

Post #9631005

Hi Bonnie, I heard about that big sinkhole there in Clermont!
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 14, 2013
8:48 PM

Post #9631053

I had lunch with my brother and his wife today at Olive Garden. His birthday is the 20th, His wife's is the 26th, my DIL is also the 26th and my Granddaughter is the 29th.

So Will, a lot of individuals close to me are born in August. You might as well join the group.

They have discovered that if you have a job you will get hired for another job. But it is very hard to get a job if you are unemployed. So maybe you find a job with out pay. What did you do for a living.

There is a bunch of us on here and we can all brain storm and get you to work.

That elephant ears look fabulous.

Mulch is gold here in the desert. Keeps the weeds down and helps keep the plant roots cool. But it is not free. But my worms love to also be cool.



elfenqueen
East Tawas, MI
(Zone 5b)

August 14, 2013
11:03 PM

Post #9631093

lol I have the biglots bridge too!
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 15, 2013
5:59 AM

Post #9631248

Awww.. you guys gonna put me to work huh? I have several interests actually that I always thought,
(keyword being thought..lol) would help in getting a job, that was years ago and that line of thinking didn't really work out. But, my interests are, computer stuff, plants and landscaping, fitness, painting,
and diy projects (I consider myself somewhat handy with power tools and such). I know I can only help myself but aren't you nice, Sharon, thanks for thinking of me, I'll dig out of the hole someday.

Yes, that's a few people born in August. A friend of mine is quite entertained with the zodiac, she's always talking about Aquarius and other signs. Sure, I'm in your group, now you know somebody born August 17th, you see, us Leo's stick together!

Thanks, I do like my Elephant Ears.

I bet mulch is gold there. The 1 cubic yard only cost $42.50, which isn't really cheap. It's a good thing that's what I already wanted because a 1/2 yd. is $25, now I am charged with wheelbarrowing it all over the place. I bet those worms like them some mulch! It's so light and airy, my biggest potted plant has been in nothing but pine bark for over 9 years, it's a Dwarf Eastern White Pine 'Nana', I'll upload a photo of it. - Its #2. You'd think that planter weighs a ton but it's incredibly light, maybe 30 lbs. I'm thinking about doing that with other big plants in pots of soil/mud, they are getting heavy and I'm not getting any stronger, probably the opposite! lol
Will


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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 15, 2013
8:44 PM

Post #9631994

That is one happy looking tree. Is that pot resin? I have quite a few resin pots because they are sturdy, can take the heat and light. I have three cement large pots I purchased when Target closed the garden plant area. Great prices but they cannot be moved.

I have three very large pots that a landscape company got from a golf course and they gave me 3 of them. About 3 feet tall and probably just as wide. I have them on the size of the house, by the pool equipment, trying to grow blueberry bushes. It cost a bloody fortune to put soil in them. I filled the bottom half with mulch. I have been trying to grow them for over 4 years. I think I need to try something different in these pots.

I had a long day today so I will return tomorrow with some Mother Winter's words of wisdom. LOL.

Sharon
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 16, 2013
6:28 PM

Post #9632890

Yes, that's a 21" plastic planter from Lowes, I think it was also $21 coincidentally. Cement or concrete planters and landscape stuff is the way to go tho, they have more a look of opulence and wealth, (I have neither btw..lol) You got some words of wisdom Mother Winter?!
This part I copied and pasted, I hope you don't think any less of me but it's also in the Central Midwest forum where I also hang out. - http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1327994/

"Well, I aim to find out how Virginia Creeper likes sitting in standing water too. I just love Virginia Creeper. I don't care if it's everywhere, I wallow in free plants! Here they are sitting in my big fountain's base, where I have 3 other freebies sitting. In with them, (and mosquito larvae..lol) is several starts of English Ivy, (they've proven to like standing water), Creeping Jenny, (actually the gold kind..aka Gold Moneywort) and Evergreen Wintercreeper. I got them all free, here from the yard or my plants. I would really like to dress up this fountain this year with plants. Kinda make it a plant fountain, (with water), not a running water, (wires and hoses) electric bill fountain - 1st three pics. Here's my concrete succulent/cactus planter featuring my latest addition of E.T.'s Finger's, (honest, that's what it's called). Here's the ac unit landscaping stuff again. Sorry, I just take random photos so hope you like them! 5th pic."
Will

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 16, 2013
9:53 PM

Post #9633053

Will, I have plastic pots, I have resin pots, I have cement pots and I have fiberglass pots. Some were gifts, some were bargains, some were spur of the moment purchases.

One, I was driving down and street and it was out for the garbage pickup. I stopped and walked over and looked at it. It was a nice pot but something had knocked a dent in one side. Well I could fix that. So I picked it up and put it the back of my SUV. I took it home, pounded out the dent, I think it was fiberglass, repainted and it has been in the landscape for over 5 years. Trash to Treasures.

So, young man, you cannot tell what goes on behind closed doors.

Mother Winter

shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 17, 2013
12:23 PM

Post #9633414

Just curious, what's the difference between resin and plastic? I'm not trying to be nasty I really don't know, there could be a difference. : ) Haha.. behind closed doors? From what I hear, something might, but then maybe the door is preferred open then as well! lol I don't know about the young man part, today I am 46, that isn't too young! lol I know you have something else Mother Winter, besides this is Summer-time, shouldn't you be "Mother Summer"! I think the heat in Vegas is having an adverse effect on you! lol Turn up the ac, sweetie! I'm only teasing, I hope you have a good sense of humor!

I added a new plant from the yard to the group of freebies already in the watery base of my fountain - Wild Grapevine! I took a photo of it but my camera is outside still as I just came in for a few minutes. I'll have photos this evening after photographing this and that.
So, here's my water freebies. -
1. English Ivy
2. Creeping Jenny
3. Winter Creeper
4. Virginia Creeper
5. Wild Grapevine
I'm thinking about getting one of my Spiderplants to top off the arrangement, maybe set it right on the top! I wonder how IT likes sitting in water?!
Will
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2013
4:46 PM

Post #9633645

If your spider plants are like mine they will grow anywhere. Mine have spread all over the place even outside of the bed and outside of the front yard fence. When they start to crowd out special plants I pull them and either throw them away or put them in hanging pots.
Hard to explain difference in plastic and resin pots but there sure is a difference. I used to have 2 plastic pots but I broke them moving them on a dolly. Resin is stronger and a composit of materials I believe. Clay pots are considered better for plant health but if they are large sure hard to move. I have one round one that I can only move in the bucket of my Kubota. If I put it on the dolly it usually rolls off plus lifting it onto it is backbreaking.
Your fountain is looking good. I have a fountain I'm not using right now and I think I'll fill it with dirt and put plants into it. Its away from elec. and I'd need a very small solar pump to fit down inside of it to use it as a fountain again. All thats in it now is water lillies that I can get to grow and I have to wsah tadpoles out of it all the time.
Plants would easier to keep. I can only move base with Kubota but thats OK. My little Kubota was the best garden tool I ever bought. You would be amazed what I have moved and dug out with that little 36" budket. Had to name it Kubi cause my dgt. has one similar and she named in Bota. Husb. big tractor can't get into my garden easily so I really needed it. What a blessing it has turned out to be.

Re: Sinkhole at condos. Thats about 10 miles from me. I'm so thankful all those tourists got out alive. We have lots of sickholes but not many open up thank God. Of course the ones that do open up makes the news media.
I don't think our homeowners ins. covers them anymore but it used to be covered by the state. Hope I never have to find out. As long as we stay safe thats all I care about. Houses and bldgs. can always be built back.
Happy gardening,
Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 17, 2013
6:12 PM

Post #9633712

Oh, I know what resin is now, it's those expensive, light pots that are thick and made to resemble concrete. I think I do have one back there, I bought it last year, it has a Dwarf Fountain Grass 'Hameln' in it. Mine was only $30 but it's big, and kinda smooth and plain, not one of the nicer ones.
Yeah, those big clay pots are HEAVY! I wouldn't get one, I want to keep a good back as long as possible! I am starting to fill my pots made of anything with mulch, I figure hay will be next, I like light pots! I'll post a photo of a Coral Bells in an old Apple basket that I made today, it's full of mulch..lol

Those sinkholes are nasty, I believe one opened up in Fla. last year and swallowed a part of a house AND a guy that was sleeping in it, it killed him, if I remember the story right. I was telling this friend lady of mine on the Emerald Coast, Kayjones. I think she got tired of me saying the whole state of Fla. will be under water (fact) when the polar ice-caps melt, and not to buy a home there..lol

I believe that sinkhole is down the street from DisneyWorld or something, that can't be good for business.

It sounds like you leave your Spiderplants out all year, Bonnie? I have to bring mine in. On putting it on top of my fountain, I did and it looked like crap. I took it down and put a Mezoo up there and it looked great, the only thing about it is, it's a houseplant. - But, it does look quite spanking! You know, like the spanking button on Seinfeld?! Here's a few different angles so you can see stuff in the background. Haha, the background of other people's pics are as interesting as what the pic is of! lol I just realized that I didn't get a photo of the Wild Grapevine today! Welp, I did take a photo of it I see, and it was definitely in the fountain when I took the pic of the Mezoo up there. What happened I guess, is I put the Wild Grapevine out of sight, on the other side, I'm such a dufus, sorry! : )
Will

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 17, 2013
8:27 PM

Post #9633834

Will, I have a great sense of humor. I grew up after the age of 18, in Las Vegas. I worked for an advertising agency before I made a career of mortgage banking. So I saw Don Rickles probably100 times in lounge shows. So I have a sharp, quite slicing, sense of humor.

Forty-six is young.

Is the plant you have on top a variegated hearts and flowers plant. I purchased two 4" variegated hearts and flowers this spring and they have tripled in size but they are planted outside. I have many house plants in my courtyard. Very protected area and they thrive. I designed our landscape so the majority of all beds are in shade the hottest part of the day.

We also built the house so the majority of the windows are protected from the sun, the roof has a reflective aluminum on it before the tile was laid down and extra insulation. Still last month our power bill was $532. And we keep the house at 80. But that is a cool 80 degrees. We have three separate air conditioning units for different areas of the house. So when no one is in that section, no air conditioning is used.

Kay Jones sent me a Philippine Violet. It is thriving but has not bloomed. She says it blooms late in summer. I have a Queen of Sheba, it is a vine, and it blooms late in the summer.

Last year we got down to 18 degrees. We have that type of freeze about every 5 years. That is why I move many plants into pots and then they can be moved in the garage area for the winter. The garage is insulated so it does not get to cold. it is actually insulated because of the summer heat but helps with the cold also.

I will check in tomorrow. Mother Winter
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 18, 2013
10:08 AM

Post #9634284

Oh, that's funny, like people said, "uh, I can't make my mortgage payment but I got 2 tickets to see Rickles!".

Oh, that plant is called Mezoo, 'Livingstone Red' - http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/188738/

I can send you some, anybody? It starts real easy. A hearts and Flowers plant huh? Is that a Philodendron? I got I believe 2 hanging baskets of Mezoo, a start in my succulent/cactus concrete planter, now, on top of the big fountain, a couple more that aren't coming to mind. A friend sent me a bunch of cuttings a while back and I put them to good use, it's a cool plant.

46 is young eh? Well, if you say so. Boy, if recognition of birthdays is like yesterday, I'm going to stop talking about mine! I got way more happy birthdays from my friends here than in my family!
My own Mom 6 miles away didn't wish me happy birthday, I haven't done anything unusually bad besides disappoint her and be a bum, I'm still an okay person for gawd's sake! I don't mean to sound all pitiful but gee wiz, it really is just another day!

Ms. Jones sent you something eh? Now I'm jealous, she never gave me anything! She used to live by me here in the Kansas City, Mo. metro area., she's a nice lady, we've corresponded a lot.

It sounds like you have quite a bit of work and resources invested in your house, Sharon.

Yikes! 18 in Vegas, yep, that's a cold snap there, burrrrr! It didn't even get that cold here in the Winter of 2011/2012. It was freakishly mild here then, I believe it got down to 29. The next Summer was a scorcher, it killed 3 plants in this yard, it was over a 100 for many days that Summer. It is unusually cool here now, (some nights get down to 57 or so) I bet it will get cold starting next month instead of the usual in October.
Will


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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 18, 2013
10:30 PM

Post #9634783

Will, I have attached a photo of hearts & flowers.

I have come down with a cold.

I just got back from taking daughter-in-law Heather and grandson to the airport for trip back to their home in Spokane. Their plane was late so my son will be up late picking them up.

Big time rain here. I loved it. Mother Winter

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mittsy
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

August 19, 2013
2:44 AM

Post #9634824

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/43342/
Funny how we know the same plant by different names, in FL we call it ice plant or baby sun rose.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 19, 2013
7:42 PM

Post #9635753

Wow, they sure look like those Heart and Flowers, maybe that's another name for them. In my experience, Mezoo doesn't have that many flowers. It could be that they're happier in that region, I dunno. Hope you get to feeling better, unfortunately a cold could turn into something else like Pneumonia or something, do take care Mother Winter.
Oh, we'd love some rain here!

Hi mittsy, that might be an unvariegated one perhaps. Maybe some members uploaded photos, like mine, of their variegated ones, not sure myself. I like that one too though.

Oh, I was mistaken about what's in my resin planter, it's a Colorado BlueSpruce 'Globosa', pic #1. -

You have the Biglots bridge too eh, elfenqueen? I need to paint the one here or put Thompson's Waterseal on it or something, it is changing colors, that can't be good. It's a cool bridge though, I love it. Has that Spiderplant baby arrived yet? The Dunk hasn't got here yet. I was hoping that baby would get there before the weekend, I hope it isn't too dried out, I got tons more tho if it is.

Today, I went to Walmart and Lowes looking for bulbs of Caladium, no bulbs for sale anywhere.
But, I did come across several small plants that were under $3 apiece so I bought them.
Not entirely sure what they are (2 of them) but I know one is a purple Sweet Potato vine, it's not hardy here but I'll go the extra twenty feet and bring it in, in the Fall. The other 2 is what I'll be researching on the botanical names, they look entirely like a small Caladium, 1 is called 'Butterfly' and the other is called 'Marie'. I believe I got the 2 Caladiums sitting in the water and the Sweet Potato Vine on the dry middle tier so it can trail over the edge, pics 2 & 3. Here is that Dwarf Fountain Grass 'Hameln' that I was talking about, it's not in the resin pot anymore, I swapped pots with the 'Globosa' - pic #4. It started out small, but the hope is it will get quite big and fill that pot out good. My BIL and Sister had one and it got huge.
Will

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 19, 2013
7:46 PM

Post #9635760

Well, guys, we all have the same plant. I purchased 2 4" pots of variegated mid summer. It has grown like a weed. They get very spindly here in the winter and are usually cut back.

Ice plant here is a different plant. Ice plant has many different vibrant colors of the bloom. I have killed many ice plants.

I have been fighting my cold all day and early this a.m. it settled into my lungs. I am keeping an eye on this cold because I ignored one I got in April and it took me down for over two weeks before I finally gave in and went to the doctor. The doctor said, do not do that again. You are getting to old to fight off these chest infections. Took two Z-Paks to get it under control.

So you all take care and I will be back to harass you tomorrow.

Mother Winter

WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 19, 2013
7:56 PM

Post #9635766

Cross post Will. I do not think your pink tinged leafed plant is a caladium. I have that plant planted in a pot in the shaded area of the courtyard. It is growing like a vine. I found it at Lowes inside with the house plants. I need to start writing down their names in case I want to replace them next year.

I have a red grass, firecracker, that I purchased early summer. It has filled up a very large pot. I will take a photo tomorrow if I feel better.
mittsy
Cicero, NY
(Zone 5a)

August 20, 2013
3:52 AM

Post #9635908

I do believe your "caladium" is an African Evergreen. I have a lot of them and they are similar in coloring. Mine is the variety Mango Allusion. They will grow in plain water, but being a tropical they have to come inside during the winter. They do not have bulbs, just roots.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/132365/


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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

August 20, 2013
8:40 AM

Post #9636118

Pretty, Mittsy. I have seen these as houseplants.

Sharon - be careful with your cold settling into your lungs. That is how I ended up with pneumonia a number of years ago.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 20, 2013
6:10 PM

Post #9636636

Those 2 new plants that I got for $2.75 each from Walmart are Arrowhead Vines, they have many common names, African Evergreen is one of them but they say that is a bit of a misnomer or something because it's an american plant or something like that.

They are Syngonium podophyllium 'Butterfly' and 'Maria'
Wikipedia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngonium
Bing - http://www.bing.com/search?q=syngoniun+podophyllium&go=&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=syngoniun+podophyllium&sc=0-19&sp=-1&sk=&ghc=1

That Red Grass is a nice one. It wouldn't be hardy here but maybe you can have it all year around in LV. - http://www.gardencrossings.com/plantname/Pennisetum-Fireworks
I have 2 Grasses, the Dwarf Fountain Grass 'Hameln' and a 'Karl Foerster' that I bought for a quarter because it was dying, it is now living but it has a long way to go to look like anything.

The Mosquito Dunk from Elfenqueen came today in the mail, I put half of it in the fountain's base.
I would love to get rid of some mosquitos soon! - pic #1. I hope the Spiderplant baby arrived and in okay condition, I owe you another one, you spent twice as much in postage as I did on you, and you went to the post office too.

Here's the label on one of the new Arrowhead Vine plants - pic #2

Here is the overall fountain again, I have the Purple Sweet Potato Vine sitting on the dry middle bowl. - pic #3.

I saw that Mango Illusion in Plantfiles, pretty plant.
Yes, do take care, Sharon.
Will

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 20, 2013
9:02 PM

Post #9636781

I know about colds going bad. I use the Netipot and it works wonders. Sunday I was feeling really bad and tonight I am just about back to normal.

Will, the plant Kay Jones sent me, I paid the postage. I actually overpaid the postage and she sent a bunch back. The plant was a Philippine Violet. It has tripled in size. It is going to spend the winter in the garage.


I have attached a photo of it. I have also attached a photo of my creeping jenny (#1) and my purple lady (#2). I tried to get a photo of my variegated hearts and flowers (#3) and I will post it but it was to sunny. I have also posted photos of my un-blooming plumerias (#5) and my two baby delonix (#4) that were started from seed. The seeds were collected in Mexico by a DG member in Tucson. I numbered them because the DG program posts them different than I do.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 20, 2013
9:08 PM

Post #9636783

First photo is Purslane. Bloom are open in full sun and close when in the shade. Tropical hibiscus #2 and #4. Hardy Hibiscus #3 and #5.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 20, 2013
9:27 PM

Post #9636794

First photo is my fire cracker grass (#1). I have also attached a photo (#4) of a plant that looks like a fern but is not a fern. I have no idea what it is. I thought it looked like a fern and it was a 4" pot. It has gotten massive. There are three in the photo. Coleus and more coleus (#2 & #3)

As you may not see, everything in my front landscape are in raised beds. Very large boulders were brought into the area ad buried into the lot. With some of the boulders being more buried than not. I will try and take a photo tomorrow.

I was raised by gardening parents and my mother's garden was a square inch garden.

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 21, 2013
4:35 PM

Post #9637534

Kayjones came to the Central Midwest forum yesterday where I hangout alot and we chatted a bit.
I put my Creeping Jenny in panty hose today, I do that to try to keep some soil in. I use little safety pins if I need to. Generally, the panty hose fits on plant's pots like a glove. Your Purple Lady sure has filled out, Sharon, and is that Purple Lady aka Wandering Jew, Tradescantia Pallida? Anyway, it's very nice!
Mine is big too, I just call it "Purple Wandering Jew". Here's the Creeping Jenny going in panty hose! - It "got hosed"! And then, back in the fountain! - I have I think 3 plants in the fountain hosed now, the Creeping Jenny and the 2 new Arrowhead Vines 'Butterfly' and 'Maria' both got hosed today and back in the fountain. They are in that regular lt. brown colored hose unlike the black hose the Creeping Jenny is in.
I only had 1 Hib kinda similar to the one in your pic #5 but more red but it died last year. It looks like you have better flowering, flowers might like that climate better, I don't seem to get as many flowers, yours are very nice. I like that red Grass too. A "square inch garden" that's funny!
Will

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shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 23, 2013
9:14 AM

Post #9639110

Here's my Purple Lady or just Purple Wondering Jew as I call it..hehe
Will

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 23, 2013
7:37 PM

Post #9639610

I am still fighting my cold.

Will your panty hose idea is a good one. Do you knock down little old ladies to get them?

Why not just put some potting mix, plants and moss on top of the potting mix instead of growing them in water? Just curiosity on my part.

I have been working on my soil and pots for close to 13 years so I have many mistakes behind me and I am sure more to come. One thing I have to do it check the landscape about very 3 days during the summer, sometimes more if the wind is blowing. If an irrigation bubbler gets plugged, the plant does not last long. I use pots because I can create the climate need. And I had the trees trimmed so there are large areas under them with a high canopy. That way it is easy for pots to be hidden, usually behind a big boulder and plenty of muted shade.


I was raised in a little mining town high in the mountains on the Utah/Nevada border. About 80 miles into Nevada. 280 miles North of Las Vegas. Been here since 1960 and it took me close to 30 years to finally get gardening down. But, of course, then we did not have the internet.

So hope all is going good with you. We are suppose to get rain late tomorrow and most of Sunday. I will believe it when I see it.

Talk at your soon...Mother Winter
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 24, 2013
9:13 AM

Post #9640008

Haha.. No, I don't knock down little old ladies to get them. lol A friend's mother had been saving them and I found them later and the friend said I can use them. I don't know why she saved them before, she is now deceased. She was a creative, innovative person, she was probably using them as a cover on something as a filter of some sort.

I hate not to have water in this fountain, it was made to have water in it.

I was born and raised in the city I'm in, Independence, Missouri, it says Sugar Creek but Independence is only about 2 blocks away.

Interesting story, you were born in a mining town eh? Yeah, it is really dry here too.
Will
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 24, 2013
5:55 PM

Post #9640396

Actually, I was born in Portland, Oregon. Moved to Pioche, Nevada when I was 4 months old. My dad was in the army but only had sight in one eye so he could not go to battle. So the US had taken over the mines and sent the soldiers there to work the mines until the war was over. This was 1942.

I have to take the puppies for their afternoon walk. I will return later.
Sharon
BonnieGardens
Clermont, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 29, 2013
6:33 PM

Post #9645323

Will what you call wondering Jew we call the same. Here it is very prolific and grows like crazy. I used to have a ton but a Rosemary busy took its place. Rosemary grows with no attention at all and smells great. I put a piece of it in all my garbage cans just for the smell.

WLS your plants are lovely. Changed planes in your city a couple of months ago on the way to my sons in Cal. Didn't have time to look around even at the airport but looked like a huge city to me. It sure was hot when we were there. 106 in Gridley Cal. the night of my grandsons graduation. Thought I would melt. They just happened to have heat wave the weekend we got there. I'm in central Fl. and it has been in the high 90's for weeks and I'm ready for some cooler weather.
Happy gardening to all, Bonnie
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

August 30, 2013
7:59 PM

Post #9646362

Hehe.. I know the "o" in Wondering Jew should be an "a" as I've been told but I do it on purpose. Wandering Jew sounds kinda discriminatory and I'm alot of things but a bigot isn't one of them!
I don't think the Jewish populace would like a houseplant that sounds like "Lost Jew"!

Rosemary won't grow outside here, I've tried, but it DOES smell wonderful.
Will
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

September 30, 2013
9:24 PM

Post #9674682

Where did you go young man. We are finally cooling off into the mid 80s. Beautiful time of year in Las Vegas.
shortleaf
suburban K.C., MO
(Zone 6a)

October 5, 2013
10:36 AM

Post #9678587

Oh, I'm still here Sharon, I just wasn't aware of the thread, anybody could feel free to jog my memory in dmail of a thread I missed. I'm on DG quite a bit, I contribute and hang out considerably in the Central Midwest forum. I have been a DG subscriber for awhile, I let it lapse around when my Dad died, but I enjoy DG, I'm not letting it lapse very often, it's very enjoyable. "Young man", that's funny, I'm not that young, I'm 46. Oh, it has turned cold alright, about 53 right now cold. I'm going outside in a bit to start my annual migration of non-hardy plants into the garage, it's going down into the upper 30's soon I believe, maybe tomorrow nite. - http://www.kshb.com/subindex/weather/forecast/7_day_forecast Spiderplants, Asparagas Fern and variegated Rubber Trees and whatnot aren't going to like the thirties! Even though this is a cool spell, the temps are going back up for a little while but I'm sure they'll stay low soon. I started a seasonal temp job Wed., so 9 hours a day are now gone.
Will

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