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Insect and Spider Identification: Two spiders from a meadow

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trrr
Elva
Estonia

June 5, 2013
8:56 AM

Post #9547220

I would very much like to know who they are:

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trrr
Elva
Estonia

June 5, 2013
9:01 AM

Post #9547226

Oh, and is the dark stuff under the first one its babies? :P

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

June 6, 2013
4:05 PM

Post #9548977

The first one might possibly be Araneus diadermatus, the European garden spider. Haven't had much luck with the second one.

http://www.uniprot.org/taxonomy/45920
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

June 7, 2013
3:53 AM

Post #9549552

Where exactly were these images taken? The first one does not appear to be an Araneus of any kind, let alone A. diadematus...
trrr
Elva
Estonia

June 7, 2013
5:57 AM

Post #9549676

Flapdoodle wrote:Where exactly were these images taken? The first one does not appear to be an Araneus of any kind, let alone A. diadematus...


These were taken on a meadow in southern Estonia.
The first one was quite small, the length of the body perhaps ~5mm. The second one was bigger, with the legs maybe 2-3cm .

This message was edited Jun 7, 2013 6:08 AM

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

June 7, 2013
6:48 AM

Post #9549741

There isn't a whole lot of info on the spiders of Estonia. I was trying to match what i could see of the pattern...and Missed. but I did find another hopefully helpful link for searching

http://www.eurospiders.com/spider_family_gallery.php

My apologies Trrr
trrr
Elva
Estonia

June 7, 2013
9:28 AM

Post #9549899

Sorry, I hoped that these would be more common but I guess I'll have to look more. :D Thanks for the link!

This message was edited Jun 7, 2013 9:31 AM
Flapdoodle
Minot, ND

June 7, 2013
5:49 PM

Post #9550406

I'm still pondering the one on the left; the configuration of its cephalothorax reminds me of a crab spider, but I do not know of any European species in that family that resemble it otherwise. I'm going to take a guess that the green one might be a male Micrommata virescens, a spider in the family Sparassidae - see http://www.flickr.com/photos/roger_key/2671113816/lightbox/ for an example. Males of this species can be quite variable in appearance.
trrr
Elva
Estonia

June 8, 2013
11:03 AM

Post #9551105

Oh, thank you very much, I really appreciate it! :) One down, one to go!

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