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DreamOfSpring

DreamOfSpring
Charleston, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2013
1:15 PM

Post #9555194

Calling all tree specialists out there. Can you help ID this tree. It's still a very young tree, maybe 5 to 6yrs old (certainly no more than 10) and an estimated 10 to 12 ft in height. Pictured below are:

The full tree to show form
A close up of the canopy
A drooping branch near the bottom of the tree
Close up of leaves, also showing how they attach to stems
Trunk/bark. (sideways as this gives better close up view)

Thank you very much for any help you can offer. If additional photos are needed, PLMK. I will be happy to provide whatever you need.

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Vestia
San Francisco, CA

June 11, 2013
1:43 PM

Post #9555224

Some weeping form of Prunus; likely to be a flowering cherry

DreamOfSpring

DreamOfSpring
Charleston, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 11, 2013
2:09 PM

Post #9555256

Thank you very much, Vestia,

I was thinking weeping cherry, too, but am confused because all of the weeping cherries listed in PlantFiles indicate "from graft" as the only method of propagation. Do you know by chance if all weeping cherries must be grafted? This small but relatively fast growing tree is not grafted. Also, in PF it seems like most of the weeping cherries are versions of the Weeping Higan Cherry (Prunus subhirtella). Any idea if this could be [a non-grafted for of] Prunus subhirtella?

Link to PF search for weeping cherry (if link works): http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher[common]=weeping cherry&searcher[family]=&searcher[genus]=&searcher[species]=&searcher[cultivar]=&searcher[hybridizer]=&searcher[grex]=&search_prefs[blank_cultivar]=&search_prefs[sort_by]=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

Thanks again!
Vestia
San Francisco, CA

June 13, 2013
6:48 AM

Post #9557332

There are weeping forms of many Prunus; It could be a P. serrulata too.

Grafting is the usual way of propagating. How can you be sure the tree you pictured is not grafted?

DreamOfSpring

DreamOfSpring
Charleston, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 14, 2013
12:51 AM

Post #9558410

I know it is not grafted because I received it as a small, bare root 'twig' roughly 1ft long and maybe 1/4 to 3/8in in diameter, which I then planted. (The name for such rooted 'twigs' eludes me at the moment.)
Vestia
San Francisco, CA

June 14, 2013
6:51 AM

Post #9558617

Oh. At that age you probably would have been able to see a graft union clearly if it had been grafted.
I suppose there must be nurseries that grow cuttings of weeping varieties.

Sorry I don't have any further thoughts on the ID; maybe you could post some pics of the flowers someday.

DreamOfSpring

DreamOfSpring
Charleston, SC
(Zone 9a)

June 15, 2013
6:44 AM

Post #9559796

Thanks, Vestia,

You have helped a lot already, and I greatly appreciate it. So far it has never bloomed. I'm at a point where I'm trying to decide what it is and whether to keep it. I need to make that decision before it grows large enough to require professions to remove it. If I do end up keeping it long enough to see blooms, I will definitely post them in hopes of narrowing the ID.

I'm not even sure if it will blooms here as our winters are mild to nonexistent. I do have another ornamental cherry tree, label just says Japanese Cherry. That one is getting pretty large now. It does bloom here, but does not put on the kind of breathtaking display seen in DC and China. Hmm. Maybe I should post some bloom, leaf, and bark shots of that one to get a more specific ID than "Japanese Cherry".

Thanks again for your help

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