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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 1, 2013
8:30 PM

Post #9700000

Welcome to Bromeliads for Novices and Addicts November thread. New members are most welcome to join this small, friendly group and share their photos and experinces with us and learn so much from other like minded bromeliad enthusiasts.

My pic for this month is Vriesea Jungle Carpet

We came from here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1336220/#9699989

Shirley

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 1, 2013
10:00 PM

Post #9700035

Bravo, Shirley.
Its easy when you have done it before.
We will have to teach Nev..lol

going back outside to enjoy the sun.
Jean.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 2, 2013
12:25 AM

Post #9700061

Hi everyone. 1. a noid that just keeps getting nicer with age. 2. Break of Day, a small one from Nev that has awsome colour. 3.Gladiator

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 2, 2013
4:12 AM

Post #9700086

Hi Everyone!

Shirley thanks heaps for starting this November thread. What a beautiful pic you added of your Vriesea 'Jungle Carpet', it's a real stunner.

Everyone, just a quick drop in tonight as we have been out most of the day and then had to go out for dinner. I did manage to sneak in a little brom time, potting up some broms and raked up some leaves so that was nice and Joe mowed the lawn so the garden looks reasonably neat and tidy. Tomorrow we have friends turning up mid morning to spend the day with us so that will be nice as we have not seen them for a very long time, I can't wait to see the expression on their face when they see all my broms he he.

Hi Nev / Shirley, you both asked about a couple of broms in some of my pics from last month, one was Neo' 'Von Cos' like Shirley guessed (good guess Shirl') and the pale looking Neo' was 'Georges Prince'.

Nev thanks for the great advice on what to possibly do with my seedlings for when I take the lids off some of the trays, I am looking forward to giving this a go given now that so many of my vriesea seedlings are touching the lids. I was not too sure if this was the right time of year to do so and it was great to hear that it is a good time of year to try this method.

Hi Jean sounds like you are keeping busy in the garden as usual and really enjoying every minute, enjoy the sunshine. The Vriesea pics you posted last month look fantastic and have great colour coming out in them.

Hi Bree your Pic 2 NOID is lovely and not one I have seen before? Great colours also in all your other broms too.

Anyway I better head off as early wakeup tomorrow as few things to do in the garden before our friends arrive that I just need to get done this weekend.

Hi to everyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Happy Gardening!

Trish

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 2, 2013
6:15 AM

Post #9700147

Hi everyone,

Nev, glad to hear you got to spend some quality time with your broms, dividing and repotting most of the day. Where to put them perhaps you will have to join Ian looking for a bigger place. We have the space here but not the necessary protection for them from the midday sun, though we have a couple of projects started but on hold at the moment.

Nev, I look forward to getting one of your neo Break of Day pups though I recall mine having similar colour when I got it. I have put your name against the plants you asked for in your post of Oct 31. Hope your monthly Bromeliad Society meeting went well.

Nev, how many years was it from sowing the Vr Hieroglyphica seeds to the development of the flower spike. Hope you get at least a couple of nice pups from it.

Jean, pleased you finally got a nice day, hope you get a few more. Nice vrieseas, especially Vr Blush, so pretty, and Vr Snows of Mauna Kea x Red Chestnut, great colour in your White Chestnut and Gulz too.

Bree, glad youre still around looking forward to seeing new pics of your broms.

Jean, I copied instructions for starting a new thread that Sue posted a while ago and always end up having to refer back to them and I still always seem to stuff it up at least once.

Trish, gee thats a nice looking neo Georges Prince, its one I see quite often on eBay but one Ive never bought but then Ive never seen one looking as good as yours. Love the large variegated neo on the bottom right of your pic 5 too.

I took a few group shots today of the broms in both of the brom houses and also in the garden and will post some of those. Ill probably post em for the next few days.

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 2, 2013
1:10 PM

Post #9700406

Hi everyone - Looks like a nice day today so a good day for watering, not too hot and not too cold. We had a very constructive meeting yesterday and planned for 2014 wich hopefully will be the biggest year for us yet.

I'll start off with the end of October's post by saying good day to Breeindy, it's good to see you still drop in and haven't forgotten us. They're three great pic's you've posted on the Nov. thread; I like your Neo.'Gladiator', it's very similar to one I have called 'Small World', it's just a small plant about the size of 'Break of Day'; small but nice. That's a great looking NOID in your first pic also, please keep me in mind when you have pups from it you want to swap.

Jean - You say about weeds, I doesn't seem to matter what you do they always find a way of growing. Someone once defined a weed as "any plant which is growing where it's not supposed to grow" (or words to that effect). Basically what's a weed to some is a sought after plant for others. As an example, I have a friend in America who says they pay for plants of Oxalis over there, yet here they are a curse.

Your little Ae. Nudicaulis could be 'Mary Hyde' or it could just be one of many variegated plants of Ae. Nudicaulis. I have three different ones from a quite small one up to one which is about 18" high and all just came with the name Ae. nudicaulis variegata. There are literally dozens of different Ae nudicaulis clones around; my largest one (about 30") came with the name Ae. nudicaulis 'Giant' but there is no registration for this.

Shirley - Thanks for starting a new thread for us, it won't take us so long to scroll through the posts now (for a while anyway). That Vr.'Jungle Carpet' is a nice plant to start the new thread with, great colour.

From the time I sowed my Vr. hieroglyphica seed to flowering was 13 years. This seems a lot and is a lot longer than the experts would take to grow them to flowering size but let me add it was only the first or second batch of brom seed I had ever sown and I was still "feeling my way". Also the plant I have was the "runt"of the litter as I had sold all of the others before I realised I hadn't kept one for myself. So there you have it; the worst possible case scenario and any of you growing hieroglyphica seed I'm sure could grow them much quicker than that.

I don't remember seeing Sue's instructions for starting a new web, they must have slipped under the radar. Could you please copy them and D-Mail them to me?

Nice group shots once again, great colour, and even my plants are finally starting to show a bit of colour although nothing like you folks can get up there where it's warmer.

Trish - I'm a little surprised when you say that plant we asked about is Neo. 'George's Prince' as mine is quite a bit darker in colour than yours (or has yours still got a bit of colouring up to do yet?) I have made a few crosses with mine and some are just starting to colour up now so I'll post some pic's soon.

Great colourful garden pic's once again, keep up the good work.

That's it for today and again I've been lazy and not taken any new pic's so once again we have to "re-live my past" with some old file pic's. Pic's 1 and 2 are Neo.'Amazing Grace' (Dark Form) and (Light Form), Pic.3 is Neo. 'Citation' (USA) Pic.4 I an early crossing from my 'Painted Lady' (sport) and Pic.5 is Neo. carcharodon x concentrica,

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 2, 2013
2:16 PM

Post #9700446

Nev- my Gladiator isnt a small plant, its still only a pup and already pretty big. Yes you sent me small world also, it and Break of Day would be some of my smallest broms.
Chirripo

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 2, 2013
2:27 PM

Post #9700450

Hello everyone.
Its cloudy here this morning with a little misty rain. Talk about a contrast to yesterdays warm sunshine.
It may improve later.
I am happy because I managed to get all the weeds with the Roundup.
Now I can watch as they die, then see all the green places I missed...lol

My greenhouse cover is finished except for me now putting some retic hose along the top inside with sprays. This will be better for watering during the hot weather as I can turn them on for a little mist on very hot days.
I have the same thing in the fern house and the plants really appreciate it.
Saves dragging a hose around too.
I use my trusty watering can for any winter watering and a small sprayer for fertlising.

Breeindy, your neo Break of Day is lovely. I must chase up mine and see how its going.

Trish, enjoy your visitors.
I cant imagine your garden ever looking untidy. You put so much work into it.
If I ever win Lotto, I am going to come and visit everyones beautiful gardens.
I love the pale pinkish brom in your first of yesterdays pics. I am sure it is one I admired before.
What is the lovely dark one in the 3rd pic. The contrast with the others is so lovely.
I am not knowledgeable enough to be able to know which brom is which as yet. I doubt I ever will be.

Shirley, your pics are so beautiful and I sit here perusing them closely. What are the two pinks on the bottom left of your yesterdays pic 3 ?
Also what are the 3 lovelies at the back of pic 4 , especially the orange toned one ?
I like the contrast of the white gravel under your brom pots.

I have a question regarding my now finished long greenhouse . The clear plastic tarps dont come all the way to the ground which leaves a nice gap of about 10" around the back half where the old plastic cover had completely disintegrated from the embedded mesh.
The front half still has the old plastic/mesh cover so no air movement in there, but the end door is open.
Will the air movement from the open door and the gaps in the back half be enough for the broms.?.
They have survived in the closed greenhouse for a few years now , so I am hoping they will be okay. . I will have those sprays up inside the roof for the summer.

The sun is coming out again here, so I am off to fertilise the rest of the broms before the rain decides to return.
Hello to Ian, Sue and anyone else.

Like Nev, I have to add a couple of old pics . I must get new ones.

pic 1... this bill has very large bright buds , a noid from a local market

pic 2.. a noid neo also from the market

pic 3 ...another noid which just had the name regulioides stuck in it at the same market

Enjoy your gardens and take care.

Jean.




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ianperry

November 3, 2013
2:18 AM

Post #9700758

Hi all I am having whoops and whoops of fun here. We had some rain on Friday morning and I got wet before going to work and dried out at work. The rain was welcome and we finished the job on hand.I have spent most of my free time working with my broms. I am removing all dead leaves as there is evidence of rot forming in the lower leaves. This could be because I have been overwatering a bit during the last few weeks. Otherwise they look good. I missed a chance to cross Maya with Razzberry Ripple as the flowers closed too early for me. I will keep looking on weekends, something may turn up.
As for looking for real estate this is on the cards as this town is unaffordable unless one is on miners income, which I am not. A relocation may be probable in the next year or two.
Bree Nice plants, I especially like your NOID in Pic 1 and Break of Day is stunning too.
Trish Nice plants.
Shirley nice plants.
Nev you show nice plants too.
Jean I like your plants too.
My concentration level is not as it ought to be.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae pubescens with tiny pink flowers
Pic 2 Neo Spectabilis variegated self growing seedlings.
Pic 3 Bil Halleujah yesterday.
Pic 4 Ae Chiante Jean flowering.
Pic 5 Salvaged seedlings still going strong.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 3, 2013
2:31 AM

Post #9700759

Hi Everyone!

We spent a nice day with our friends that we had not seen in a long while and I sent them home with 3 x boxes of broms which they were wrapped about as they do not have much colour in their garden as they grow mainly palm trees for a bit of shade. I am happy also as it freed up some spots here and there in our garden making room for more broms that I have been looking at moving into better light to hopefully achieve better colour in them.

Hi Shirley thanks for your kind comments about my Neo Georges Prince, I have this one growing out in the back bromeliad garden bed under 70% shade cloth curtain and it is clearly loving it there. I know it is not the true colour to achieve in Georges Price but I prefer it better when it gets this overall soft lilac colour.

Shirley, from my thread 2/11 the large variegated bromeliad you asked about (bottom right hand corner of Pic 5) is Neo Tim.

Shirley your group broms shots are breathtakingly gorgeous. What is the Neo brom top right apricot Neo in Pic 4 thanks, I really like this one?

Hi Nev pleased to hear you had a constructive monthly bromeliad society meeting and planned ahead for 2014.

Nev like I explain to Shirley above, my Neo Georges Prince is growing outdoors under 70% shade cloth. I am sure it would colour up way more to its true colour if I moved it into a lot more light but I prefer the soft lilac colour it is at the moment so will probably leave it in that possie for now. It would be great to see pics of your ones colouring up when you get a chance.

Nev those are fantastic pics of your broms. Pic 4 from your early crossing of Painted Lady (sport) really caught my eye as its intense deep orange colour is so beautiful.

Hi Bree, hope your well - nice Chirripo!

Hi Jean pleased to hear you managed to neutralise the weeds in your garden, we too have a few to tackle in our front yard but I keep forgetting to do so every weekend because I am too busy with the broms in the back yard he he and there are only prickly broms in the front yard.

Jean thanks we enjoyed the visitors but now I feel exhausted as we normally try to unwind on Sundays but today was just full on from morning till dark but I am happy because I still got a bit done around the garden this morning because I woke up early enough to do so.

Jean thanks a great idea if you win the Lotto to visit everyones beautiful gardens, I will try to win the Lotto too (but not at the same time as you) so we can go together if you like LOL.

Jean thanks regarding your kind comments about our garden, I try to work really hard in it to keep it reasonably tidy by working in it most weekends and it helps waking up early during the week and spending an hour each morning in it, so at least by the weekend I have put about 5hrs into it and got a head start on tackling the bigger projects that need doing around the garden on the weekends.

Jean the dark Neo you asked about in Pic 3 is Neo Black Out I luv this one. Jean I too sometimes forget what some of my broms are called but I am sure over time their names will be imprinted on my forehead because they will become that familiar and part of the family. Jean great pics, I luved that Bill in your pic one with the bright red flower, what a pretty one that is.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 3, 2013
5:27 AM

Post #9700803

Hi everyone,

Nev, WOW 13 years, thats a long time to wait for a vriesea to mature. As I am still feeling my way especially with vriesea seed, it could be a very long time before mine flower gee, I wish I had started 20 years ago.

Jean, the brom you asked about on the extreme left in pic 3 is the Aechmea NOID which I purchased as a billbergia and which both you and Nev would love. I havent had a chance to organise another visit to the ladys garden yet but I will get to it soon I hope. The one next to it is neo Red Sand. In pic 4 at the back from the left are neos Strictly Princeps, Ring Leader and Apricot Nectar which has only recently started to get some nice dark colour.

Im not sure about whether there will be sufficient air movement in your greenhouse, Im sure someone else (probably Nev) will be able to answer your question.

Ian, sounds like you are feeling a little better, thats good. Gosh, I go to so much trouble to germinate seed and care for seedlings and yours are self sowing, way to go.

Trish, love that neo Tim. Could you please add Tim to my wish list for a pup, one day in the distant future when you have a spare, thanks. The neo you asked about in pic 4 is one of the same ones Jean liked, neo Apricot Nectar.

Well, that's it for me, more group pics.

Bye, Shirley



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 3, 2013
12:52 PM

Post #9701088

Hi everyone - Well that weekend went quick didn't it? Now the weekly cycle starts all over and soon it will be the weekend again. I spent most of the day yesterday watering until we had some unexpected visitors which stopped everything for a couple of hours (unfortunately they weren't even brom growers either).

Breeindy - I guess with your Gladiator pic beside the Break of Day you fooled me into thinking they were of similar size; I guess I shouldn't assume should I?

I like the one in your pic today; I haven't seen that before so I had to look it up and found that it's another Skotak hybrid. Interestingly, this one has a double dose of concentrica in its breeding along with that old favourite carolinae.
Read all about it at: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3603#3603

Jean - To answer your question about sufficient air movement for your brom's I think you have to work out what's the best solution yourself as only you know your weather and climatic conditions. Reading what you have written in past posts you seem to get a lot of cold weather and considerable rain which is very different to what I get here and even more different to that experienced by our friends further north.

I think we should never lose sight of the fact that the original species of most of the genera we now grow, originally grew on trees and would have had abundant air movement especially around the roots. Some grew in very exposed locations while others grew under the protection of tree branches which brings us to a bit of an equation which we have to decipher for our various collections. The equation is: As a general rule, they like good air movement, but not strong winds which will cause damage, they don't particularly like the excessive cold, nor do they like to be continually wet and nor do they like extreme heat.

Reading what you have written it seems like you have adequate ventilation for your conditions although I don't remember if you get very hot summers or not. If this is the case, perhaps an extra opening vent high up on the end opposite the end where you have your door (or even another door in that end) would allow you to get better air flow through during hot weather. I guess the bottom line is to "watch your plants" and they will tell you if they aren't happy with certain indicators such as burnt leaf tips, droopy leaves, bleaching, spotting etc.etc.

Ian - It's good to see you more cheerful than the last time you posted; nothing like a nice drop of rain to improve everything, ourselves included.

I wouldn't worry too much about missing the chance to cross Maya with Razzberry Ripple; there'll be other opportunities with other plants. When this happens to me I just convince myself that the cross I missed doing wouldn't have been very good anyway, that way it's less painful.

You say, "Nev you show nice plants too", well I must confess I should have looked more carefully at the pic's I posted yesterday as the colour of the plant in Pic. 4, the 'Painted Lady' (sport) crossing isn't that colour. It's more of a pale apricot colour; I guess it's a combination of a not very good photographer and of the camera lying that's made it appear that colour. I know it's possible to digitally enhance pictures but what's the purpose as you're only fooling yourself, unless of course you want to sell on sites like Ebay and make your plants out to be something they're not (and I know of one seller in particular who has been doing this for years and still people fall for it)

Nice pic's Ian and I must say your Chianti var. Jean has a much larger flower head than I can ever get on my plants, but then judging by the foliage, your plant is getting more light than mine as my foliage is darker. Unfortunately it seems like I can't grow in low light and get nice coloured foliage and great flower heads as well... Bugger!

Trish - Don't get me wrong when you read my comments yesterday about your George's Prince'; I think the colour you have achieved is more attractive that what is accepted as the norm. I'm going to try a pup from my plant in lower light and see if I can achieve the same colour as I like it so much better than my plant's present colour.

You commented on the pic of the 'Painted Lady' (sport) crossing, what can I say except that things aren't always as they seem; read my comment to Ian above.

That's a fantastic shot of your Neo. 'Blackout' you posted on the 2nd. I don't have that plant myself but I was given some seed of a cross of Neo. 'Blackout' x 'Mandela' and now the seedlings are approaching maturity I getting a bit excited at the prospects. When I originally checked out 'Blackout' on the BCR I found it wasn't registered, but I did find another called Neo. 'Black Onyx' which is very similar and I'm now wondering if they are one and the same. Have a look at the pic at the site below and see what you think. Remember also that the pic's on this sites aren't always the best as far as accuracy goes:
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3199#3199

You've posted a wonderful array of colour again today and I have to ask the name of the little dark one with the red centre in pic's 4 and 5. It makes a great contrast plant.

Shirley - Don't be "put off" by what I wrote about the hieroglyphica seedlings; you must take quite a few other factors into consideration.

Initially I grew them on top of ordinary potting mix in a terra cotta pot which dried out very quickly and consequently they were often on the verge of de-hydration.

Three or four times (I just forget now) the cat knocked them off the bench and some were lost and the remainder had to be re-potted again and again and again.

They weren't protected from heavy rain and on several occasions they were washed right out of the pot.

Several times I really lost interest and didn't water them when they should have been watered leaving them in a very dry state sometimes for a couple of weeks.

Given all of the disasters they went through I'm surprised any survived at all, but it did teach me one important thing and that is they are very resilient and forgiving plants and you can treat them rough and they will still survive.

I think to get a more accurate time frame it would be better if you send Tash a D-Mail as she grows many more than my occasional attempt and besides she has friends who also grow them as well as Jack who grows them professionally and could tell much more accurately how long t takes from seed to flower.

More wonderful examples of well grown plants you've posted again today, what else can I say or do except "droooooooooooooool".

All the best, Nev.

springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

November 3, 2013
4:16 PM

Post #9701221

Hi everyone, I must admit I didnt read the end of last months thread, and I feel bad for it, but I have only limited time, so best I read the current and actually reply rather than read it all and be out of time to reply. So if someone addressed me or asked me something. I have probably missed it sorry.
Shirley great work on the new thread and love that Jungle Carpet.
Bree great photos, that Break Of Day is stunning. I dont even know where mine is, it flowered and the mother is in the old mothers area, barely recognisable, but now I am hoping I have kept a pup?? I found another neo the other day I really like and realized I hadnt kept a pup, lucky the mum had two nice big ones on it, so I kept them both for myself. I will have to go looking for Break Of Day later in the brom house to make sure I have kept one.
Trish and Shirley, great photos as always, gee all the photos are so nice, its nice to see how the colours are leaping out.
Jean, thats great you have finished the long greenhouse, well done. Someone will be able to advise you on the air flow, it is different in different climates as I know of people down south who have fully closed brom houses and they are fine, up here it would mean certain death. Hopefully you got all the weeds, they are annoying arent they? I am always nervous when hubby drags out the round up, he doesnt use it near the brom luckily, only behind the building etc.
Great photos Ian, I dream of the day we can buy a place and have space for the broms, I hope you can find something more suitable and affordable. We like living in the tropics, except I hate how hot summer is and the cyclone season, so may even end up leaving the tropics one day, as its also very expensive up here and buying a property feels like it will never be in our reach while living here. But who knows what will happen, why buying/owning a house has to be so expensive is just stupid. The great Aussie dream of home ownership is fast getting out of reach for many.
Nev, great photos as always. The good ol Vriesea seed is a slow process. I think I will have similar stories to you with our first seed attempts, neglected, dried out, not fed, left to die, saved, tipped out by kids, etc etc. We are getting better! Some of our first seed attempts, wow, I still had some of the first attempts that were still barely 5mm tall after 3 or more years, needless to say, a lot of things have been recently thrown in the bin. Its great to learn and I will always appreciate the seed we were given that we killed, stewed, dehydratedkilled. As I learned many things from it all.
We have experimented a lot, maybe too much, but finally have what seems to be working. Plus the installation on irrigation in the seedling area has been the biggest help of all, as too often, we would be busy or caught out and things would dry out. Now that doesnt happen often. The only thing we need to get a better program happening with is the fertiliser side of things.
As we all know seeds from each genera all grow at different rates, but just lately we have been doing some Aechmea and Hohenbergia seeds and its amazing how fast they move if you feed them and repot them. Very shocked and surprised. Vriesea seedlings I gather from what I am learning benefit from lots and lots of foliar feeding, regularly and more regularly than most people probably think. We are slack in the foliar fert department and need to up our game and get onto it.
I think some of the big hybridisers get them from seed to flower in about 3-4 years I think.
Now another question. I am keeping records to see if I can work it out, but someone will probably already know. If you get a pup off a seedling, while the seedling is still relatively young, (any genera) which will reach maturity and flower the soonest? Typically a pup can reach maturity in a couple of years, even faster with some genera, whereas a seedling may take years and years. I have a few pups that have come off seedling mothers, so trying to keep an eye on which mature first.
Well I just went out side and did a fert spray while it was on my mind and had to hose the shade cloth and broms as a dirty rotten bat must of flown over last night and left his business all over the cloth and right through onto a heap of broms! not sure if it would of hurt them, but seeing what it does to the paint on a car... I thought it best to hose it all off.
ok photos, this is a two yr and 3 mth old seedling, grown from seed from Sue and probably my best results from vriesea seed so far. As in they are the biggest and the best looked after. I lost most of these to grass hoppers last year, only a few survived and this is the biggest. The smallest is probably 1/2 the size of this one. The tag is 125mm, so that's how tall it is.
Second photo is our Chirripo (I find it confusing with two different pics in the BCR) and personally think mine looks more like Lorena, yet it came from a reliable source. Will chase this up actually as it's bugged me many times... time for an answer ;)
Third pic is Neo Apricot Nectar in flower, too young, but oh well
Four is Neo On Target
and Five, is one of Nev's babies! Wasn't variegated when Nev sent them up and was the only one to go variegated. Very slow to grow and have nearly lost it a few times but coming along nicely, still fairly small, a lot of growing to do yet.

Ok gotta go, hello to everyone :)

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

November 3, 2013
11:34 PM

Post #9701400

oh just a PS from my earlier post, my Neo Chirripo is in fact Neo Lorena. So I'm glad I have that solved, I wasn't worried either way, as I think it's fantastic, just wanted to get the right name on it :)

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 4, 2013
1:01 AM

Post #9701420

that Neo Lorena is awesome.
ianperry

November 4, 2013
3:27 AM

Post #9701441

Hi all, another fine day and back to work again, what there is of it. We hope to get some more in in a couple of weeks. It will be our regular maintenance work on the Sugar Locos. Build up and machining of wheels. I know that I have fallen into a negative attitude lately and need to do something about it. Maybe I ought to seek the roses and smell them instead of the carrion flowers. I did nothing with my broms today.
Tash my favourite of your pics today would have to be Neo On Target. I think it is one I posted here some time ago as a NOID and it now appears that it could be what I have just hanging around in midday and afternoon sun and not looked after very well. I don't know where I got it from and it has not pupped in 2 years. Nor has it flowered. Maybe with a bit of tlc it will do better. Land is cheaper up North than around here, but this is a mining town and area.
Nev Neo Blackout has concentrica in its breeding and has those stripes in the outer leaves. I have no idea of where it came from but it is popular up here. Black Onyx is a different plant altogether having full black colouring on its outer leaves. I have both of these plants and both are getting reasonable sun. As for my hybridising I will just have to become a week-end warrior and hope for the best. I will have many opportunities when I retire from full working hours.
Shirley, I just like to show off occasionally. Actually I took some seeds from this plant and must have spilled some in the centre and they have grown. I think that I will leave them where they are out of interest and a talking point at one of our brom meetings. Most of my seedlings are raised similar to how Nev raises his and need a lot of care just like babies.
Trish it is funny how one forgets the name of a plant here and there and when looking at the name tag one wonders how they could forget that one, especially when one has lots of plants to remember Some of the growers here keep their plants alphabetically, but that is more for sales access and locating a particular plant. Mine are random and very mixed with Neos beside Vresias and next to Aechmeas and Nidulariums with a few others scattered around. Some are in the right light position and others are not. This is something that I have to work with. Nice pics.
Well it is time for bed .
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae Aztec Gold
Pic 2 Ae Fred
Pic 3 Ae leuddemannia
Pic 4 Ae J C Superstar
Pic 5 Ae Smithorium

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 4, 2013
11:39 AM

Post #9701766

Hi Everyone!

I got interrupted last night so I never got to post below that I had typed:

Just got back from our nice evening walk and now I am that relaxed I am nearly ready for bed, does not take much to tucker me out these days and even more so as the days warm up.

Hi Shirley pleased to hear you love Neo. Tim. I have popped your name down for a pup thats if you dont mind the wait though as I already have a couple of landscapers chasing this one and naturally I am wanting to keep a couple of pups for myself to build up stock levels as it is a fantastic one to use as a feature plant in the garden. It appears to be nearly fully mature so I am hoping (fingers crossed) that it pups for me soon and by the looks of its size and strength it should hopefully produce a good amount of pups, so I will let you know as soon as I have one available.

Shirley thanks for letting me know what that beautiful apricot looking brom was in you pic Neo. Apricot Nectar, could you also please put my name down for a pup whenever you happen to have a spare.

Shirley I luv it when you post those group pics of your broms as the colours just take my breath away, they are all so stunningly beautiful.

Hi Nev I have two plants of Neo Georges Prince (possibly 3 he he) and just found that I much preferred the soft lilac look compared to what it should look like as I found it to be a fantastic contrast when placed amongst my other colourful or dark broms. I have also done the exact same with Neo Two Tone and grow it the same way as I do Georges Prince. I would luv to see a pic of how you go experimenting with your pup of Georges Prince and hope you can achieve the exact same result. Georges Price is always one that stops me in my tracks when I am walking around with my early cup of tea in the morning, I just cant get enough of it.

Nev thanks pleased to hear you like my pics of Neo. Black Out and thanks for providing the BCR link on Neo. Black Onyx. The difference that I can see between the two broms is that Black Onyx has more of a deep dark chocolate overall colour with yellow/green undertones, yet my Black Out is mainly black all over with green undertones. So to me they look like two different plants? I have mine growing under 70% shade cloth. Nev I would luv to see pics of your Neo. Black Out x Mandela when they approach maturity as I am sure the combination of those two plants put together will be awesome.

Nev the brom you asked about in Pic 4 and Pic 5 with the red centre is Neo. Sam Smith fully mature and in flower, how is your pup going? I did notice my Sam Smith to be a slow grower and slow to pup but the wait was very well worth it as this one is still a firm favourite of mine in the garden and I just cant get enough of it and every time I see one for sale at the right price I cant help but buy it. It definitely makes a great contrast plant in our garden.

Hi Tash great to hear from you as I always luv reading what you have been up to as it is both interesting and inspiring and wonderful to be able to chat with everyone and hear how their broms are doing and how they are growing them.

Tash I enjoyed reading what you had to say about growing vrieseas from seed and the trial and error process you have gone through to get to where you are now. Back in October 2012 I started the adventure of growing vrieseas from seed and then soon after neoregelias and I am really enjoying the challenge that it presents as there appears to be many elements involved in growing them successfully and I am enjoying the challenge immensely. I must have about 30 trays of seedlings growing aside from about 5 trays of seed that must have been old seed that did not germinate. I too have found that they need a lot of foliar feeding, especially the vrieseas so now feed them every week as opposed to only once a month and they are loving the extra attention.

Tash I luved all youre pics especially Neo. Lorena, what a stunner, her leaves are so much wider than my one, mine still has a little growing to do so I hope she fattens up some more. Oh and that Neo. On Target of yours is awesome.

Hi Bree hope your well?

Hi Ian pleased to hear you are back at work and feeling better in yourself. Ian like you wouldnt it be great to have more time with our broms but at least we have the weekends to look forward to. Ian I too like all my broms mixed up so they are not too regimented on where I have them, I like to experiment with light if I have more of one of the same brom to see which way I prefer growing it, so I suppose my brom gardens are a bit like a canvas, I keep moving them around until I am happy with their colour and the canvas is forever changing which keeps things interesting but does make it harder when looking for a particular brom he he.
Anyway must head as got to get ready for work blah!

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

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springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

November 4, 2013
5:35 PM

Post #9702052

Hi everyone,
Well the story with Neo Lorena, is that I got hold of the seller and he confirmed it is Lorena which was sitting right beside his Chirripo and he must of just labelled the pup wrongly. So it's all good, I don't mind, just wanted to get my records straight on that one.
Ian, I love that Ae Aztec Gold, mine is a poor excuse of a thing and I must get a good chunky clone of it one day.
I have Neo Blackout too and wondered why it isn't in the BCR as so many people have it. That was the same with Neo On Target, another one that gets around faily commonly up here and all over QLD by the sounds but was not registered. I asked some questions on it to try and work out where it originated and as a result Geoff added it into the BCR since it was so well known. I see today that also Neo Jaffa, (Neo spectabilis Variegated) is now also actually registered, so I'll have to take the Neo spectabilis variegated AKA Jaffa tag out of mine, or amend it at least lol.
Trish it sounds like you are doing well with the seedlings, great work. Far better than me when I started that's for sure. We sow alot of ours without lids now, or if we do use the lids, we take them off fairly quickly. Our heat is responsible for stewing a lot of seedlings up here. Keep up the great work.
Well I had better keep moving, big hello to Bree, Theresa, Nev, Shirley, Jean, Wendy, ... who have I missed??? Well to everyone I hope you are all well :)


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ianperry

November 5, 2013
12:47 AM

Post #9702233

Hi all,Just another day here and I went for a look see around my broms and fertilised my seedlings. It looks like it might rain so I am tempting it with the fertiliser, foliar as usual. While I was checking my plants I saw an orange flower spike rising out of what was supposed to be a cross between Bilbergia Rosea and Quesnelia Tim Plowman. It is obviously an Aechmea and how the seed germinated in the tray of seedlings is a mystery. Because of this origin I have called it Ae Yarn NR (not Registered) In pic 5 it is showing the second generation, 2 nice little pups, both spoken for at this time. I bought this seedling some time ago and often see the seller.I don't know if I am allowed to name a plant like this but have put it up on FB anyway.
Pic 1 shows a little bit of colouring up of Bil Pink Champagne seedling. This is the seed parent and nature did the fertilisation. Whether it is a self or from something else I have no idea.\
Pic 2 Is a similar set up using Neo Bold Streak X macwilliamsii as seed parent and it is just starting to colour.
Pic 3 Is a good example of what not to do to a beautiful Neo Barbarian. It has almost dehydrated and been in too much sun

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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 5, 2013
1:06 AM

Post #9702234

OMG, it has taken me about two weeks to catch up on the september thread and finally arrive here. Hopefully I wont get the poops with DG and will get to post a bit more often. I will keep it short tonight and just comment on a couple of things.
Neo. 'Break of Day'. Mine look like Nevs when they are young, and Shirleys when they mature. They go through a range of colours in between.
Neo pups flowering : if you have pups big enough to remove now, wait until most of the Neos have finished flowering before removing them. it wont hurt to leave them on a bit longer and once flowering is over, you can remove the pups and it should be another year before neo flowering season again, so you should get a bit of size on them. If you remove them now, before the neos have flowered, chances are there that the pup could flower early. be patient!
No pics right now, but now that I have caught up, next time I should be prepared. hello to everyone.
Sue
ianperry

November 5, 2013
1:53 AM

Post #9702239

I got a little interrupted just before and have come back to try again, not that there is much to comment on. It is good to see Sue back again and the other regulars continuing on. I am still learning by making mistakes and by listening to others.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Bench shot
Pic 2 -4 Ae Yarn not registered
Pic 5 Ae filicaulis showing pendular flower spike.The flowers are only open for a short time in the mornings.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 5, 2013
2:09 AM

Post #9702246

Hi Everyone!

Hi Tash thanks I am definitely enjoying the challenge with growing vrieseas and neoregelias from seed and look forward to the day when I really get to see the shape, detail and colour in them. It is interesting that you say you sow a lot of your seedlings without the lids right from the start. I should try experimenting different ways in growing them down the track and see what works best for me here in our nursery as at present they are all growing with their lids on but some lids need to come off now as some of the vrieseas are touching the tops of the lids.

Tash that a gorgeous group shot you posted of your broms, they look fantastic.

Hi Ian your seedlings look great and are colouring up nicely, I cant wait for mine to get to that size where they are starting to get a bit of shape, detail and colour, then boy am I going to have my hands full. Ian hopefully your Neo. Barbarian throws you a good amount of pups after going through all that stress; they normal do after going through a bit of a rough patch in life.

Hi Sue its fantastic to hear from you, thanks for the great advice on when to remove pups, I will keep this in mind with any of my flowering broms, normally I wait till the mother flower is dying before removing pups as by then the pups are of a good size and the mum is still strong enough to produce more pups once I have removed its first or second pup.

Ian your back again twice in one night thats great. Nice bench shot pics of your broms as well as those lovely Pics 2 and 5 of your Aechmeas.

Anyway time to head off as I have more seedlings to fertilise and I wont have much time to do so in the morning as I have some other stuff I want to get done in the brom garden as soon as my alarm goes off.

I cant seem to be able to attach pics tonight for some reason and I have logged out and back in on numerous occasions? I wonder if anyone else is having trouble.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish
perke_patch

November 5, 2013
5:58 AM

Post #9702317

Hi everyone. Like sue I've been trying to catch up on all the reading. I do often pop in and read but then it's too late to respond or I'm too tired to respond.
When the conversation was happening about ADHD I was going to add that our youngest was a brat till we learned that he was allergic to the red food colouring. once we removed red things including cordial, tomato sauce. and anything else pink or red he improved so much. I'm sorry Cody took that conversation as criticism and I hope she is reading still. we have all discovered these things over the years and are sharing our own experiences with her hoping it helps.
so many lovely pics I wanted to talk about but now can't remember what I wanted to say. What I will say is I've made a list of those plants that Shirley got from me recently that Nev in particular has asked for pups of. I am preparing a box for Nev and seeing that I already have pups of those plants I will include them in Nev's next parcel. These include canefire, imperfect, medallion, Freddie and Kay Jay. Hope nobody minds that I am jumping in. Nev if there is anything else please let me know.
Tash I am so jealous of your biggest vrisea seedling. We should have them that big by now but we've just had another batch of vrisea seedlings chewed up by rats. 2 trays almost completely gone save 2 or 3 in each. that's almost 60 seedlings to a tray. and once again it was Johnny's favourites vr dad's favourite F2 and crosses, and some other vr crosses. Of course we have hieroglyphica and red chestnut seedlings of varying sizes but we've been growing those species for a while and you know what you are getting with those. it's those unusual hybrids that you don't know what you'll get that we've been waiting for but each time we get them to the stage of really taking off they get eaten.
Shirley did I give you a pup of that tillandsia NOID I got from Peter Tristram that was down the side of the seedling area?? If you got one of those pups then that's the only one now as the rats chewed them all off. now only got the mum plant and I'll have to wait for more pups to grow. see pic 1
Like Tash we also wasted a lot of seed in the learning process but now we're getting better at it. I know our seedling area is not the ideal spot as it doesn't get enough sun to warm them up properly to get maximum growth. but we don't have any other option at present.
Pic 1 s this tillandsia NOID showing all the pots of little babies that are now all gone.
Pic 2 is my little garden gnome tending his crop of ionantha which is flowering at present.
Pic 3 is my first clump of tillandsia on a log. it is getting quite impressive now when it flowers.
pic 4 is the till funkiana which is coming into flower again at present. love this one. must do some crossing of it.
pic 5 is showing how I do some of my tillandsia seeds in choir filled balls. I just put the seed in under the net and then dunk the ball in the birdbath every day. that one is gardneri which are getting quite a good size now. of the till seed I have growing there is butzii, gardneri, fasiculata large and small and every size in between, utriculate, schiediana, ionantha and probably more I can't think of right now. so will have lots to spare soon.
Will post some more tomorrow night.
PS: Nev Johnny had another of those things cut off his left temple this time. he went today just for stitches to come out of right temple but doc insisted left one couldn't wait as it had grown again so it had to come off. so he's had a bit cut from his nose and skin pulled in to stitch it up, then right temple and again skin pulled tight to stitch and now left temple. I've told him that's a full face lift now. not many wrinkles left as they've all been pulled out. hope he's all clear now.
PS again. all my tests came back as perfect except blood pressure which is a bit high and borderline for needing medication. I've been told to try regular exercise to see if that lowers the BP so I don't need to rely on meds. so all healthy apart from that.

Night all
Wendy

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 5, 2013
1:04 PM

Post #9702648

Hi everyone - I don't know if I'll get this finished today as I have to go to the Museum early but I\LL start anyway. It's cool and overcast here this morning (5th), maybe we're going to get some of the rain that's been promised for the past three weeks, I know the garden and grass needs it.

I spent most of yesterday dead leafing and watering and in the process I found a couple of plants which I had previously misplaced and both have two nice pups so I know what my work today will start with.

Tash - To add a little bit more to what you say about irrigation; when I grew ferns I put in some of that black irrigation hose with the little micro jets and found they were great, the only thing I could never get right was how to get the water right into the corner of the benches. The mist would cover everything but the ferns in the corners didn't get as much as the others. I always promised myself I would put it in the brom shade houses as well, but I enjoy hand watering so much it never got done and now I'm too bloody old to do it anyway, Ha! Ha!

Interesting what you say about the variegated seedling not being variegated initially. I was told by the "so called experts" that any variegation in a seedling would be apparent when they were tiny and if they weren't variegated by the time they were about a centimeter high they wouldn't become variegated. You've just buggered up my day saying what you have, as I must have tossed a hundred or more of those seedlings and only kept a few that were clearly showing variegations. How many possible variegated plants have I chucked? But as you say, it's a big learning curve and the one thing I've learned is that the "big boys" don't know everything, as I've proved them wrong a few times now. As for the slow growth rate of that seedling, I think I may have mentioned to you that all of mine were very slow as well, so I don't think it's anything we're doing wrong, they're just very slow growers.

I love that plant of 'On Target' in your pic; I bought a pup of it from a woman on one of the forums once and it turned out to be nothing like the real thing. She was adamant it would get better as it got older and now at three years old it's still a "weed". She has obviously long gone and I have the "dud". So if you get a spare pup you want to swap, please keep me in mind.

That's great growth rate on your Vriesea seedling, it proves just how much they like feeding. I found that Guzmanias are also heavy feeders and one year I really pushed the fertiliser into them and they rewarded me with fantastic growth and lots of beautiful inflorescences. I guess "you reap what you sow". I was talking to a professional grower a few months ago and he said he feeds at every watering and more or less literally takes seriously the old advice of feeding "little and often". He says since he has done this his plants have never looked better... So there's something worth thinking about also.

I'm all over the place this morning (6th) trying to catch up with the posts and I've just read your post (4th) and the interesting info about firstly Neo.'Neo Lorena' and secondly the new info about Neo. 'On Target' being added to the BCR and finally Neo spectabilis variegata now being registered as Neo. 'Jaffa'. It has an interesting history and if you would like to read about it go to: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=11771#11771

Ian - I find that if I'm feeling a bit "down", I'll take the hose in my hand and do a bit of watering and looking at the brom's; there's nothing like it for a quick "pick me up".

The comments I made about 'Blackout' and 'Black Onyx' were based on what I've seen in pic's. I've never had the chance to compare them with each other in the flesh so to speak as I've only gone off pictures on the BCR and other sources. Unfortunately a lot of pic's don't give specific sizes. I see that Black Onyx is a John Catlan creation and is listed as "medium size" which means different things to different people. As for 'Blackout' I haven't seen that listed anywhere. Ian if you have both plants, could you give us an idea of the sizes, or better still a pic of them side by side.

Looking at your interesting batch of Aechnea pic's I'm reminded that Ae. 'Aztec Gold' is another we have John Catlan to thank for, and the very interesting history of how it came about can be found on the BCR at: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=AECHMEA&id=32#32

They're two interesting seedlings in your first two pic's on (5th) and also a good example of what not to do to Neo' Barbarian'. If you haven't already done so, wack the "Seasol" into it at the dose rate for stressed plants it could pick it up. If not at least the stress it has suffered will initiate pups more quickly just give it extra fertiliser to help Mum feed them.

The plant in your last pic's is a "beaut", I saw the pic's in Face Book this morning. It will be interesting to see if in fact the flowers are Aechmea or Billbergia; either way it's a beautifully marked plant and I'll bet the waiting list for pups will be a mile long now it's been on Face book. Good onya mate, you've gotta have a winner sometimes don't you?

Ian, you say, "I have called it Ae Yarn NR (not Registered) and I don't know if I am allowed to name a plant like this but have put it up on FB anyway."Although people do this all the time for their own convenience, it's not a good idea to release pups of it carrying that name in its unregistered state, so why not register it?

I'd send the pic's to Geoff Lawn (The registrar of the BCR) along with the plant measurements and everything else you know about it's history and ask his advice. I'm sure he'll be very helpful and steer you in the right direction on how to register it. Cultivar Registrar: Geoffrey Lawn E-mail: cultivars@bsi.org ... Go for it mate.

Trish - I guess my comments about Blackout and Black Onyx were a case of me writing what I was thinking. I usually try and consider different things when comparing pic's of plants, such as the area it is grown in i.e. temperate or tropic and at what stage of its development it was photographed and probably most important of all, what amount of light it was grown under. It's difficult to get a true indication for comparison from a pic without knowing these things, but then when you start thinking, sometimes the imagination runs wild also.

Thank's for the ID on 'Sam Smith'; you ask how my pup is going; well no good,; as I don't have a pup of this plant and never have had one, but I'd love one when ever you get a spare.

Now that Tash has given out her secrets to success for growing Vriesea seed reminds me I have some excess seed of Alcantarea odorata. If anyone would like some just let me know.

Nice pic's Trish, is that a Vr. Ospinae var. gruberi I spy there in among the Neo's in your first pic?

Looking at your next post now (5th) and what you say about seed sowing is dead right with the emphasis on the word experimenting. What suits Tash or myself won't necessarily suit you as we all have different climates to work with. You can only take our advice as a guide and adapt it to suit your own conditions. Whatever you do though, I think you should remove the lids when the leaves are touching them otherwise the leaves will take a 90 degree turn, and besides it's perfectly safe to remove them at that size even down here where it's cooler than up where you are.

Sue - Like you, I've been flat out trying to catch up with the posts. Why is it that sometimes there are only one or two posts, but when you miss a day that's the time that everyone posts?

I have to agree with you about Break of Day and it's a beautiful little brom which looks good at any stage of it's growth. I've done some crosses with it as the seed parent using 'Small World' and a couple of other similar size plants, which should prove interesting.

That's all good advice about the pups, but I've found that sometimes it doesn't matter when you remove them they still sometimes flower before they are mature; I guess it's a case of the genes "spitting the dummy" or maybe "separation anxiety syndrome", Ha! Ha!

Wendy - Thanks for the offer of those extra pups; I'm sure you won't upset anyone by "queue jumping" (as you put it) as the people I've promised pups to will still get them no matter who I get the ones I'm chasing from. We'll just have to adjust our lists accordingly, and besides it's sometimes handy to have two of each plant especially down here where they aren't easily obtainable. What you will have to do Wendy is now tell me what you are chasing and I'll see if I can help you out.

Seeing you've had a lot of seedlings destroyed by rats, is there any seed you might be after as I still have a reasonable supply in the fridge waiting for a home.

You say that like the rest of us, you too wasted a lot of seed in the learning process; the thing is that seed wasn't wasted if you learned something from it. We were all feeling our way at that stage and we've all made mistakes. Let me just relate what an old Scottish carpenter told me once when I was a 15 year old apprentice and had just cut a nice piece of maple too short; he said (in a very broad Scottish accent) "Laddie, the mon who didnae make a mistake didnae make f...all", and I've always remembered that, as making mistakes is all part of learning. The thing is, don't make the same mistake twice.

I'm not a Tillandsia grower but I always admire a nice plant of Til. ionantha in flower, it's one of a few we have had given to us and grows like a weed and flowers easily every year.

Glad to hear Johnny is getting sorted out, I guess we're all paying the price for enjoying a lot of sun when we were young, ask him for me if he's going to have a "boob job" next, Ha! Ha! As for your blood pressure being border line, I've found that just when you get it right they move the goalposts and lower the recommended reading, just like they do with cholesterol guide lines, so what chances have we got of getting it right?

That's it from me today and maybe I'll get around to taking those pic's I promised tomorrow but not today, sorry.

All the best, Nev..

springer99

springer99
Queensland
Australia

November 5, 2013
6:08 PM

Post #9702900

Hi Everyone,
Gee Ian what a twist that brom of yours has taken, looks just like out Ae chantiniis up here that we just call Ae chantinii dark form. But youll have to wait for the flower like you say. We find ours are very variable depending on what light they are grown in, anything from a green, to the colour of yours, to an almost a dark pink/purple colour. We love them. Whatever yours is, its great.
Hey Sue, yeah I have had a few neos flower early but they were either sent to me in winter or I cut them off my own in winter. So I have some midgets in flower ha ha.
Trish like Nev says, what works for one with seeds, may not work for another. If your system is working well, my advice is stick to it. I probably experimented too much with all different advice, but its all a learning curve isnt it? Getting the lids off will help that you will be able to fertilize them more and more easily.
Wendy, its funny what we learn about kids and diet huh? The simplest thing can make the biggest difference for one kid and none for another. Im sorry to hear about the rats and seedlings, how disheartening. Grasshoppers are bad enough, but rats, oh no. Lots of bait!!! And maybe a change over the broms? What a shame.
Nevyes hold off on the culling. These were some you sent me in toilet rolls, so that would remind you of the size they were when you set them, maybe about an inch, inch and half tall or a bit more. You sent me a few of this and a few of that and they were the first seedlings I received where I had to carefully separate them and pot them up. And not too deeply as you advised or they might rot. I remember it was fiddly work and being the first time, a bit daunting but exciting too. The variegation slowly appeared bit by bit, months later. A line here, a line there, bit by bit. It was slower than the rest. It was the only one of everything you sent me that variegated. It went funny at one stage and we thought it was dying, then it got burnt, and now it looking great. Poor thing has been getting a rough ride, but its getting there and we really like it. Ill have to look at the cross and let you know what it is. You of course know what one parent is.
Well its hot here today even though it looked a bit grey earlier.
Well some photos...
Our Ae chantinii dark form, both growing mounted one in higher light.
Well that will do, have to find something interesting to put up, shown it all and repeated them too I'm sure, lol. Hope you all have a great day

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 5, 2013
8:13 PM

Post #9702980

Hello everyone.
Boy what a great read of all the posts. I needed a break in the middle for lunch.
I went out this morning to take a few pics so will have something to add to my post this time.

Thanks for the comments regarding the air movement in my greenhouse tunnel. I have decided not to worry about it as the brugs were living in there for quite a while and doing well before I altered it.
They will survive. I am not one to fuss over plants too much. I look after them as best i can and they seem to get on well .

I found that my large vriesea heiroglyphica x Red Chestnut is starting a bud way down in the center. I didnt see it until I moved the plant lower so I can now look down into the center.
I also found the small vriesea Lucille with a bud coming up. .
My large vr vegans has not flowered but is putting out a pup.

I can see lots of color coming int o the broms now the weather is getting warmer.

Love reading about how you all grow your seeds. I am learning but wont be doing too much as I dont have the room. My vriesea seeds are sitting on the lounge table near the window and are all coming along very nicely . The first lot of seeds I grew are from my noid neos , They are about 1cm high now.

I love all the pics, but wont go into detail for each persons pics. . I just want them all. lol

Ian , nice to see your bills. I am getting very fond of my bills and must get a few more.
I do like the stripes on your aech Yarn.
I am like Shirley and partial to stripes .

I may have to try and arrange another space to hang bills. I was going to hang some between the others and use chains to hang them lower. This will spoil the view of my broms on the ground so I will have a rethink.
I may put a steel pole up between the shadehouses . I still have room inside one shadehouse which will still give them plenty of light.

Rats, eating seedlings ugh. We ha d rats here a couple of years ago and they ate all my lilium bulbs I had stored. Buggers..

Wendy, your tills are so pretty. I just may get back into a few now the greenhouse is done. They would like it in here.

You were all chatting abut Blackout and I must admit the dark broms do look well against the bright colors of the others. I have neo Midnight , which I love.

Tash , your Chantinniis are so beautiful. My new one is looking good but I am keeping it in the greenhouse as I dont want to lose it. The first one I had was a lot smaller and died in the winter a few years ago.

Lovely to see you pop in again Sue. Your garden must be alive with color now.
Better add some pics and then go do some spraying . I need to get at the brugs before the spider mites do.

pic 1...neo Midnight. great contrast plant.

pic 2...vr heiroglyphica x Red Chestnut...if you look closely there is a bud coming

pic 3...vr ospinae gruberi looking very beautiful

pic 4...vr Barbara

Jean.



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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

November 5, 2013
10:13 PM

Post #9703026

A big G'day to everyone again. I'm back home again on days off. Arrived this arvo and could see there's been a lot of rain. Checking my weather station, there'd been 13.5mm on Sunday and 26.7mm on Monday. I know some places not far away got up to 150mm on Sunday. But the temps are still up, my average maximum for November so far is 39.0, and the rain had brought it down a little to that.

However, there was a package awaiting me. My broms I'd ordered through the mail had arrived. They looked a bit limp when I took them out, I just hope it's only from having been in the dark a week that's done it. This is the list of what's arrived, and I have until Sunday to get them settled in before I'm away again.

Guzmania 'Indian Night'
Guzmania 'Bernie's Gold'
Guzmania 'Kapoho Fire'
Guzmania 'Optima'
Guzmania 'Sangria'
Guzmania wittmackii
Tillandsia capitata Peach
Tillandsia fasciculata
Tillandsia krukoffiana
Tillandsia leboldiana
Tillandsia wagneriana

They didn't include any notes on culture/care so guess it'll be a matter of searching to make sure they get optimum recommended conditions, and then hoping for the best.
Cheers everyone
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 6, 2013
2:21 AM

Post #9703059

Hi Everyone!

It pelted down rain here this morning at about 5.30am for a good solid 30mins +. I laughed as I got up early to water my seedlings in the nursery and some other plants in the garden, then while I was sitting potting broms a squall came through along with the heavy rain and I just sat there in amazement and watched with a big smile on my face as I had not expected it plus I had really missed the rain. Anyway the wind got that strong it ripped one corner of the shade sail over our pool and into our pool so now we need to fetch it out and attach it back to the wall clip. On the news it said we got 21mm.

Hi Wendy great to hear from you, sounds like you have been keeping really busy. I once had very high blood pressure and the doctors said I would more than likely need to be on medication for life but they did say similar that exercising and losing weight could help but that if it didnt then it was probably hereditary as my mum suffers from high blood pressure and that I would be stuck with it for life. Anyway I lost a fair bit of weight and am no longer on blood pressure medication, I dont exercise as much as I should but I am keeping the weight off as well as still losing some by watching what I eat so I am thrilled to bits about that. I have been off my blood pressure medication for about nearly 10 years now.

Wendy great pics of all your Tills they look so wonderful when they are in flower. And I really like that coir filled ball for hanging your Tills. I have some Till seeds I collected recently, could I germinate them straight on a coir filled ball and just spritz the ball every day until they germinate and maybe use the flour and water paste helpful hint that Nev mentioned recently that his friend uses and paint this on the coir filled ball as the Till seeds would be mixed up in the flour and water paste?

Wendy sorry to hear about the rats and the seedlings, our problem is grasshoppers and you have to get up really early to catch the little buggers aside from trying to find where they are hiding.

Nev I posted you a pup of Neo Sam Smith, a gift from Rob Smythe back on the 18/05, so where have you got it hiding amongst your broms? I posted you another Neo on the same day so I hope you got them both as I remember you confirmed with me that you had received your parcel, anyway I hope you find Sam Smith and wish you good luck in your search for it amongst all your other beautiful broms he he.

Nev the Vriesea you spotted in amongst the other broms is I believe Vr. Tiger Tim the last time I checked. I ended up potting them outside as they were not doing well where I have my other vrieseas and seem to prefer the new position far better.

Nev thanks appreciate your advice in relation to taking the lids off any seedling trays where the seedlings are touching the top of the lids. I had a look at them all last night and many vrieseas are now touching the lids so it is time to take the lids off on a good majority of my seedling trays. Joe also gave me the idea of just popping the tray into a slightly larger tray with a bigger lid until I come to a decision on what I am going to do with them next. I really liked your Styrofoam idea very much so I have been madly trying to get a few more from Woolworths so I can get some ready in our nursery to sit all my trays in with the lids off but I have not got enough as of yet as some have just been too small but as soon as I have enough I am looking forward to giving your way a go as there is far less chance of them drying out as quickly this way which is what I am afraid of as I dont want to loose any.

Hi Tash appreciate your advice also in relation to taking the lids off my seedling trays, I am getting to the point of having no choice now that a lot of the seedlings are touching the lids so I just have to bite the bullet, I think I have just been worried to because I am not around as much as I would like to be to look after my babies but if I go with Nevs great advice using the Styrofoam boxes to sit them in then they may have a chance in still absorbing moisture and humidity with the core peat in the bottom under the trays but in more detail the way Nev explained. And yes like you say it will make it so much easier to fertilise them whenever I need to with their lids off. Tash nice brom pics, I adore the Ae. Chantinii dark form and its one that I am looking forward to getting down the track amongst many others on my wish list, one day as there are so many nice ones to pick from but its just working out which order to put them in and I keep changing my mind on the order of precedence LOL.

Hi Jean your seedlings sound like they are doing well and it sounds like you are really enjoying growing them, now we just have to think about where to put them when they all grow up he he. Jean lovely brom pics you posted.

Hi Tropicbreeze pleased to hear your well, wow thats a lot of Guzmanias you got in and the names of them sound lovely. I do not have many Guzmanias but when I do get them by post I give them a good overnight soak in water and brown sugar like Nev often mentions that he does with his broms when they come in the mail. This helps to rehydrate them and then you can pot them up like you would other broms. I tend to treat my Guzmanias like my Vrieseas, they get a little more attention than my Neos and enjoy regular foliar feeding and I water them more than my Neos; the main thing is the mix is free draining and they dont get soggy feet or they are prone to rot just like any other brom. I have mine growing in the nursery under 70% shade cloth as well as under shady trees where they enjoy filtered light conditions. I also like growing mine in groups in the one pot as they seem to do better this way and look far prettier when they all flower together and then it is just a matter of cutting out the old mum as she dies and the new ones will just fill the gaps.

Anyway time to put the kettle on or maybe I can talk Joe into making me one he he.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 & 2 Vriesea cv. that I got from a friend for my birthday that came with lots of pups

Pic 3 & 4 Neo. Kinship. I have had this one growing in a lot of sun but have recently moved it under 70% shade so hopefully its colours improve as it was starting to loose colour but thankfully did not get burnt. I have had it in the same possie for two years so its a pretty tough one to have endured all that sun for two summers coming into its third summer but then I relocated it.

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perke_patch

November 6, 2013
5:55 AM

Post #9703152

Hi everyone
Trish I don't use anything to stick the tillandsia seed onto the balls. the one I posted a pic of with the net around the coir, I just tuck the seed under the netting string. I have some other seed on coconut balls with no net and I just stuck the seed all over the husk and watered it. if you keep misting it the seed sticks to the damp husk and once adhered to it you can ease off on the watering a bit. it's only when it is fresh that it tends to fluff up again when it dries and if you miss a day misting it the wind can blow it away. so misting step is important to make the seed stick.
perke_patch

November 6, 2013
6:12 AM

Post #9703166

oops I hit the wrong button and sent instead of attach a pic. pic 1 is the coconut husk ball with seedlings that I mentioned in previous post.
Tash I love those chantiniis mounted on the trees. never thought to mount those. We'll have to try one up a tree. Might have to put some thought into which one to attach to. We've been talking about letting some small suckers come up in the golden canes as we want to cut down the really tall ones. they are getting too tall now for Johnny to reach the seed pods and dying branches to cut them down. he is not good up the ladder these days and finds reaching out with the cutter is too hard on his arms. so if we mount anything on the wrong palm it might be one coming out soon. LOL
Tropicbreeze your mention of getting a till kruchoffiana in the mail made me think about when we were at a friends place recently looking at his broms and he showed us a pot of kruchoffiana pups he was growing nicely. I was thinking about taking some of our grass pups off and getting them going like that when he said they were ones we'd given him so I had to think "Oh Johnny must have given him some" when we got in the car to come home I asked Johnny about it and he said he thought I must have given this guy some. Now we wonder if he helped himself when we weren't home. The kruchoffiana is just inside the entry gate out the front. I remember thinking one day that I thought some were missing. Anyway what can you do. we can't accuse him of taking them. I know I might have given him one or two but I certainly wouldn't have given up to 8 or 10 of them away. I'd strike them myself before giving that many away. So now the gate is padlocked when we leave except for time like now when we are waiting for parcels in the mail or couriers.
Pic 2 & 3 are trays of our seedlings after the rats had their feast. as you can see in one pic there is one nice fat seedling left standing.
Pic 4 is our till kruchoffiana with a flower spike forming. Must take another pic as it now has branches coming out of that spike and I love the colours on it.
Pic 5 is the first grass pup we grew on from the kruchoffiana. I got 2 to strike that first time and sold one to Aaron Smythe in north Qld or swapped him for some plants. I have smaller ones growing now but not nearly as impressive as this first pup.
Anway time for bed now so I'll say hello to everyone I didn't reply to individually and goodnight.

Wendy

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 6, 2013
6:45 AM

Post #9703203

Hi everyone,

Nev, I received your parcel today, lovely pups, thanks so much.

I havent been put off by your experience with the vriesea hieroglyphica seedlings though vrieseas do take a long time. I would like to try to grow some bills as I have been told they are much faster but I have no idea how to go about collecting bill seed.

Tash, love your pics great colour and shape, especially neo Lorena.

Ian, it will be interesting to see how your seedlings grow in the cup of the neo but once the flower gets old and yucky they might not like it there too much. Nice pics too. Great colour in your Ae Yarn.

Trish, no problem with adding your name to the neo Apricot Nectar pup list. Sounds like your seedlings are coming along nicely.

Sue, great to hear from you again, weve missed your posts. Its not surprising that my neo Break of Day looks a lot like yours since it is one that you sent me a while back, thanks. I am wondering if the neo pups that flower prematurely while they are not fully grown will produce pups that grow to normal size.

Wendy, great to see you back posting again as well. Thanks for sending the pups off to Nev, though I only have neos Canefire and Freddie on his wish list from me. I dont have neos Imperfect, Medallion or Kay Jay myself. Two that I have been after for a while are neos Cee Bee and Razzberry Ripple, if anyone has either one for swap or sale, please.

Sorry I dont have one of the tillandsia NOIDs you mention were eaten by rats, the one you gave me was till Mima and its looking good.

Wendy, glad your tests came back perfect, hope Johnny doesnt need any more face lifts. I know when I had switches in my forehead after a small sun cancer was removed, my left eyebrow was about half an inch higher than the right for months.

Jean, your neo Midnight is nice and dark, mine must be in too much light. Your vrieseas look good too.

Tropicbreeze, sounds like youre going to be busy potting up all your new broms before Sunday.

Wendy, perhaps you should get a cat to keep the rats away. Gee, thats an impressive looking till in your pics 4 and 5.

I hope this all makes sense, I just noticed the time, no wonder Im so tired, it's going on 1:00 am, Qld time.

My pics are 1 neo Apricot Nectar, pic 2 bill Imroposa, pic 3 neo Bobs Pride, pic 4 bill Purple Ice, pic 5 neo Carolinae (albo) x Carcharodon

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 6, 2013
12:52 PM

Post #9703454

Hi everyone - Only a short, quick visit tody as it's Museum Day and besides my fingers are still sore from my Marathon Post yesterday trying to catch up with all the posts.

Tash - Sorry, but the culling of that cross you speak of was done long ago when I followed the advice that only the plants showing obvious variegations when tiny would remain so, and the plain ones wouldn't change. I was even told that some of the ones with variegations could revert to plain before they matured as well. I was listening to the advice from all "the experts" as it was my first time to breed any variegated plants.

When I initially sent you those small seedlings it was mainly to give you the chance to learn to handle small plants as I could see your thirst for knowledge in this area as you asked lots of questions and really got stuck into it; I don't think I've ever seen anyone so keen and I wanted to encourage you. I'm pleased I did, as you followed through in your quest for even more knowledge, and now know much more than I and now I can ask you the questions fo a change. With variegated plants from that particular cross, I have found they are all very slow growers; I don't think it's to do with our cultural methods or different climates, it's just in the plants genes.

Your Ae chantiniis are looking great, unfortunately I've never had any luck with them and every one I've ever tried (and there's been a few) just start going backwards from the time I get them,so I guess Chantinii growing just won't happen for me here in Shellharbour.

Jean - Like you I too can see the colour coming into the Neo's with the weather warming up and there's something new to see every day.

From what you say about your seed growing, you are over the hardest part now and just have to look forward to what they'll produce at maturity. I think it's a great thrill to see a plant come to maturity from seed you've sown yourself and it's only then you can truly call yourself a bromeliad grower.

Nice pic's you've posted, especially the Vr. Ospinae var gruberi which always looks great in any of its different forms.

Tropicbreeze - Pleased to hear you had a nice present awaiting your return home. I have found the best pick-me-up for plants that have been in the mail for a while is to firstly put them in a shady area and give them a good hose, then dissolve a cup of raw sugar (or white sugar will do) in a bucket of cold water and soak the whole plant in it. Give them the occasional dunking as well and make sure that the centre cup has the sugar/water mixture in it also. They can stand in this mixture all day, it won't do them any harm (I've even left badly dehydrated plants in it over night). Once you have potted them up it will help even more to give them a good dousing with Seasol at the recommended strength for "stressed plants" and a second dose in a weeks time.

You will find good basic cultural advice for most genera by googling Florida Council of Bromeliad Societies. It is written for American conditions but most of it applies to here as well. If in doubt just post any questions here and I'm sure you'll get an answer from someone.

Just for some quick brief advice, Tillandsias like bright light and good air flow and kept a little on the dry side. If the foliage loses that silvery grey colour and goes grey/green, it means they are getting too much moisture. On the other hand Guzmanias also like good airflow, but a much shadier environment and watered more frequently. They are also pretty heavy feeders as well.

Trish - I recall you saying some time back that you had a pressie for me from Rob Smythe but you didn't say what it was. However, I don't remember ever getting a Neo. 'Sam Smith' and I didn't say anything at the time as you were very busy at work and I thought you may have forgotten.

The only one I have is Neo.'Sam' and I got that from Rob Smythe's son Aaron a couple of years back. I've looked through the list of all my Neo's and definitely don't have a 'Sam Smith'. As you say I told you I received the parcel so I must have got it; the only thing I can think of is maybe the name was lost and it's in among a few NOIDS which friends have sent from time to time. I must say I was a bit puzzled the other day when you asked how my Sam Smith pup was, and now I know what you meant. Not to worry, one of these days I'll see this beautiful Neo NOID coming into colour and I'll know where it came from. The only thing I feel a bit bad about now is that I haven't thanked Rob for it, so I'll have to think how to break the news to him.

Nice pic's once again, your little Vriesea looks like one I have called Evita, it's a very good grower and reliable bloomer. I like the Neo. also especially the shape.

Wendy - great shots of the Till. Seedlings, they look fantastic, by the way, what were you drinking when you took pic 4?

As for the missing Till pups from inside your gate, it may not have been your friend who took them, it could have been someone else if they were just inside the gate and easy to access. You probably should have had the pot attached to a 240 volt live wire.

Shirley - It's not much good asking me about Bill. seed as I seem to have trouble getting many of my crosses to take, however with the ones I have got seed from, the seed is much larger and faster growing than Neo's and probably even a tad quicker than a lot of Aehmeas. Generally speaking, from what I've found, the larger the seed the quicker they grow and to this stage Acanthostachys is the quickest I've ever grown.

They're nice pic's of your Bill's; I didn't know you grew Bill's and I'd certainly be interested in pups of both of those if/when you get spares. Your Neo's are still my favourites though, especially that last one, it's a beautiful plant.

In your Pic 4, what are the wooden stakes? Are they some sort of butcher's skewer or chopstick? How long are they, they seem longer than anything I've seen around down here and just what I'm looking for to stake Bill's.

That's it for today, sorry I have to go as I'm late already,

All the best, Nev.
ianperry

November 7, 2013
2:36 AM

Post #9703910

Hi all, I took a stroll amongst my plants and found a few plants colouring up for the first time for me. All I did after this finding was to take a few pics.
I find with my Tills that the silver coloured ones will take a lot more light and sun than the green coloured ones.Til usenoides (old mans beard) grows in full sun in Florida and hangs off the power lines to the extent that it has to be controlled with sprays. They use a copper based spray as it poison the plants as we would use roundup. Too muchb shade in silverleaf tills kill them here, I have learned from this mistake.
My seedlings seem to be doing well, especially the ones that I thought were grey-green Aechmeas. When visiting that same parent plant it had been in more light and turns out to be Ae Reubens. This was the second lot of seeds that I planted in June last year. Some of them are almost 1 foot high and are colouring up reasonably well.
Enough from me for tonight
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Neo Black Onyx on Left and Black Out on right not coloured up as yet.
Pic 2 Neo Red Claw on left and Treasure Chest.
Pic 3 Maybe Neo Blue Star
Pic 4 Neo Bakers Creek Nursery #5 with Pride of Ipswich in background.
Pic 5 Bil Ole X Pink Patches.

Tropicbreeze, your new plants sound very colourful, I know Guz Indian Night is I got mine in June and it is still flowering but is starting to show that the flower is not as fresh as it was.

Tash I like the Chantinis and there seem to be more and more variations all the time. I am experimenting with a common green with more shade trying to deepen the green colour. I will take pics every month or so just to see what happens. I also have one under the mango tree getting a lot of light.I am also doing similar things with Ae Bert.

Nev I read on another forum that one can submerge a scale ridden plant in water for 24 hours and it will kill the scale and not hurt the plant. I will have to try this method on a common scale magnet type of plant.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 7, 2013
2:36 AM

Post #9703911

Hi Everyone!

One day closer to the weekend and then its one on one time with my broms yeah!

Hi Wendy thanks for the great advice on how you grow your Tills on either Coir or Coconut Balls, it would be nice for me to get these going in the nursery and then once they take I could look at hanging them in the trees around our garden and imagine they would look very pretty spinning around in the breeze. Thanks for attaching pic, thats wonderful how well they have taken off, then like you say then its just a matter of spritzing them every day until they germinate/have attached themselves.

Hi Shirley thanks for putting my name down on the Neo. Apricot Nectar pup list, it is such a pretty one and thats a fantastic pic you posted of it as well as all the other beautiful brom pics you showed us and what a stunner that Bill Improposa and Neo. Carolinae (albo) x Carcharodon is.

Shirley I purchased a pup of Neo. Cee Bee some months ago, its growing, colouring up but still has a lot of growing to do. I already have your name down for this one from back then as you were keen on it LOL so as soon as I see pups appearing I will let you know and hopefully there will be one for me and one for you popping up at the same time.

Hi Nev I hope your fingers are recovering from your as you say Marathon Post from the other day he he.

Nev I just found my DMail to you back on the 28/05 replying to your question about what the surprise brom was from Rob Smythe (I just flicked the DMail back to you just now for your FYI), where I let you know that it was Neo. Sam Smith. Anyway I hope you find it like a hidden treasure amongst your other beautiful brom. I remember it was a bright orange pup with open form. Anyway not to worry Nev if you cant find it over the next couple of days let me know and I will put your name down on your Wish List for a pup when I have one spare, I will also check with some of my brom collector friends and see if they have any spare.

Nev pleased to hear you liked the vriesea cv. pic I posted yesterday, although like you say its similar to one of your vrieseas called Evita would you like me to keep you a pup of this one as it has many pups forming below that are about 10 / 12 cm height already but still too small to remove just yet, then you can really compare it with your Evita when they side by side in flower?

Anyway time for me to head off and rest these eyes of mine.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 - Neo. 'Oso Proud'
Pic 2 - Neo. 'Lava Swirl'
Pic 3 - Neo. Ad 'April' ??? Not to sure on history on this one??? This was how it was labelled???
Pic 4 - Neo. 'Termite'
Pic 5 - Neo. 'Fairy Tale'

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 7, 2013
2:43 AM

Post #9703912

Hi Ian

You and I appear to have posted at the same time, nice pics, especially that Bill in flower. Sorry I can't help you with your Neo. NOID with the lovely centre starting to flower, hopefully someone here can ID it for you.

Cheers

Trish
perke_patch

November 7, 2013
4:42 AM

Post #9703951

Hi everyone
hope to have an early night tonight. we had a dickhead going round and round and round on the intersection last night at 1am. he ended up drifting and I'm sure he hit the curb. anyway he went west towards IGA but I'm sure that was closed by then. Anyway we just settled back in bed and started drifting and the idiot came back and did it all over again. This time I had my nighty on and was ready to run out the front with Johnny grabbing the phone as I went. within 10 mins we had 3 cop cars cruising the streets. I told them I thought he was just round the corner as I saw his headlights as though he turned into a house or the park. we heard yelling so maybe they knew where he lived from our description of his car. turns out when we drove round they way this morning he does live just round the corner. fancy doing that and pissing of your own neighbours. he'll be sorry if he does it again cause now I know he lives at 22. LOL

Nev it doesn't matter how often I turn photos around, for some reason they just turn back to be posted. sorry about that. the photo of that spike doesn't even give you an idea of half the colour it has now. it is spectacular. should have lots and lots of seed this time next year.

Shirley with collecting seed from your billbergias I've attached a pic of what you need to look for. bet you can't find the pod full of seed. hahaha. anyway I was told to look for a change of colour and firmness in the pot. so if your billbergia pod is dark green look for it to change colour maybe to almost white? if pod is red or purple, look for a change of colour and when pressing it should feel soft and squishy. I also find that if you give them a tug a seed pod not ready will be hard to pull off but when they are ready they almost fall off when you touch them. then just sqeeze the seed out into a sieve and wash them under the tap then leave to dry.

Nev today I had to move all my plants from the edge of the downstairs patio area so I could clean the gutters and I just had to stop and admire those ae calichroma x blanchetiana seedlings you gave me (see pic 2) . I just love that deep rich colour. you can't get an idea of just how intense the colour is from a photo. I potted up another 3 or 4 this week and I'm slowly introducing them to the sun. every so often I push them out a bit further so they get a bit more sun each time. eventually they will be in really good strong sunshine and I hope I get some more really deep colours like these. thank you so much for sending me these. my favourites for sure. I nearly shared one today with my sister who has bought a new home and is doing her gardens. I thought about it then decided no I couldn't let either one go. LOL
Pic 3 and 4 I've attached because they are the same plant. the washed out one at 4 is how we've always had them under shadecloth and I have trouble getting someone to buy them so we put one in the garden we created next door for our neighbour. it is getting full sun all morning till about 1pm when carport shades it. it is now the most vibrant colors and is stunning. I also put a washed out billbergia that didn't look much at all growing round our tanks under the tree and only getting late afternoon sun. Now after a period in a lot of good sunshine it is the most stunning billbergia I've seen. just want to go take it back but I'll wait for a pup. just goes to show that the plainest of plants can because a Cinderella if moved into a better position with more or less light.

If anyone wants to try some acanthostachys seed raising I have about 10 or 12 seeds. they are so big you can sow them individually in small seedling trays. Hayden our grandson has done that and we have 2 dozen growing. I did see another seed pod last week and couldn't stop myself from squeezing and washing the seed. it's now dried out and ready to go in the fridge. Pic 5 is my acanthostachys flowering at present.

Hi to all not mentioned like Tash, Trish, Ian, Jean, tropicbreeze, Jen, Sue, Cody if you are still reading, and anyone I missed. Night all. I'm off to bed now.
Wendy

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dalfyre
Christchurch
New Zealand

November 7, 2013
10:55 AM

Post #9704149

Wendy - that is quite a difference between pic 3 & 4...
it could be fun playing with plants you have multiples of - growing them in varying degrees of light to see what you get.
My Virgo mind is seeing a science experiment in the making.
Take identical plants & use a light meter to keep a record of their exposure, take weekly photos...
once the colour reaches a stage where they look like different plants - swap places & repeat the experiment & see if they repeat the colour change.

I can see I need to win a few million in lotto in order to conduct this experiment, need a new house with green house & maybe a conservatory in which to grow broms.

Ok Universe you have heard me - bring on that lotto win :)
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 7, 2013
12:28 PM

Post #9704216

Hi everyone - I know I said I'd keep it short yesterday but didn't, so I promise I will today.

Ian - I was told by a good grower of silver/grey foliage Tillandsias that if the foliage colour goes grey/green you're giving them too much water. He said the main thing was constant good air circulation and lots of light.

Thanks for the comparison pic's of Black Onyx and Blackout, they certainly don't look alike as I suspected, and your Bill 'Ole' x 'Pink Patches' is a beaut.

That's a good tip about the scale, it seems that this will drown them. Why is it we often overlook the most common solutions to problems?

Trish - First let me say that I've never doubted you when you say you sent me the pup of Neo. 'Sam Smith'; it's my memory that I doubt as it's letting me down more and more. I found the D-Mails where we talked about it and the ginger you sent, but why is it my mind only lets me remember the Ginger and not the brom's? Maybe it's worn out and can only remember one thing at a time, anyway the search is on now to find where I've put it and the pup of Neo.'Kismet' you sent with it... So stay tuned for further developments folks...Silly old bugger!

That Vriesea you describe sounds very much like 'Evita' as mine is also a multiple pupper and grows like grass for me down here so it may take over your yard up there. The interesting thing is the leaves will change colour depending on the light they receive unlike similar types of floral Vrieseas

Wendy - That's good info on collecting Billbergia seed, I'll have to try it as I suspect I've been leaving them too long and by the time I check them they are "shriveled up" and I've just thought they died and the pollen hasn't taken. Approximately how long from pollination to seed harvest? Faster than Neo's I expect, is that right?

I'm pleased you like the colour of the foliage on the Ae calichroma x blanchetiana seedlings, it just doesn't do anything for me though, but then we all have our own likes and dislikes; I mean if we all like the same thing it would be a pretty boring world wouldn't it?

I noticed a big fat seed capsule on Acanthostachys pitcairnioides yesterday so if anyone wants to try some of that let me know also. It's very prickly and not as spectacular as the Acanth. Strobilacea shown in Wendy's pic though.

Theresa - I guess there's lots of experiments someone with a scientific mind and a bit of spare time could do using brom's as a subject, but as you say, you would first need to win Lotto to set yourself up.

All the best, Nev.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 7, 2013
12:49 PM

Post #9704233

Hi again - I've finally worked out how to down load pic's from my camera to this computer so for today are Pic.1 and 2 to show Trish how I keep my seedlings once the lids are removed, Pic's 3 and 4 are of Ae. nudicaulis 'Giant' (unreg.) Sorry I couldn't get the plant out and take a better pic. but as the name implies, it is a giant at just on 1 M. tall and too awkward for me to get out. Pic. 5 is one I just found yesterday and had forgotten I had and is Bill. 'Pink Ladd'.(Unreg.)

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 7, 2013
2:46 PM

Post #9704299

Not much from me today as I am going out to list my broms.
Now I have moved them I have to find where they are now, so when I want to check on any particular one, I know where to look. .
I will work between showers and do a bit of potting in the shadehouse with the alsinite roof.
Its very handy for rainy days.
I have a lovely group of broms to pot . Thank you Nev & Shirley.

Nev, thats a very nice bill Pink Ladd.

Hello to everyone else. I am enjoying all the pics and adding to my wish list. I am still waiting for the Lotto fairy to come this way so the list will stay as just wishes for now.

pics are just views of the broms the other day when the sun was out.

Jean.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 8, 2013
3:28 AM

Post #9704539

Hi Everyone!

Well its been a great week for me this week because I got a head start on the weekend by salvaging an hour each morning during the week and spent it in the garden splitting/potting up broms, dead leafing and feeding them. I also had someone from my work buy some broms from me so I was thrilled to bits about that. Its amazing how popular my Brom of the Week at work has taking off, it really has everyone talking about broms and asking lots of questions and I have had a lot of interest from people who want to know more about them and others who want to get some for their gardens. Today the person that brought broms from me took one look at the Brom of the Week that was sitting on my desk with pups ready to be removed off mum and quickly asked if one of the pups was for sale because they liked it that much, I had a little giggle because they had the crazy look in their eyes that I get when I see a brom I really like and want LOL. Anyway it will be nice to put the money towards supplies and buying more broms of course he he. Also someone new I met for the first time while shopping for supplies rang me to place an order for broms for delivery next week so I am a busy girl at the moment with broms flying in different directions and its nice to see a few gaps in the garden although I know they wont be there for long LOL.

I am planning to do a brom stocktake over Christmas to see how many I have of everything as I really want to keep the numbers of broms accumulating in the back garden under manageable control and at the moment I feel very comfortable with the ones I have I just want to make sure I dont keep too many of the same, but I think I will be pleased with the outcome of the stocktake as I have been mindful all this time to keep a close eye on my collection, its more the seedlings that I have to worry about he he as some of them are already ready for re-potting and that is what I am going to be doing this weekend.

Hi Wendy oh my goodness that hoon neighbour in no. 22 needs a good slapping around the head, hopefully the cops sorted him out, what an idiot. We normally get the hoons that muck around on the wet roads but luckily we are in a court so they dont come down our road thank goodness.

Wendy nice brom pics you posted. Thanks Wendy I would luv to try some acanthostachys seed if you can spare a couple of seeds as I am sure there will be others here on this forum that would like to try some. Does the seed take long to germinate?

Hi Dalfyre, good luck in the Lotto!

Hi Nev I reckon you do really well trying to keep up with all your boms considering how many you have to look after, so dont beat yourself around the head when the odd one goes missing, like you sometimes say you discover ones you forgot you had in your collection every now and then and have grown and had pups of their own and that must be like Christmas has come all at once. Anyway Nev as I mentioned if you cant find Neo. Sam Smith please let me know and I will track one down for you. Nev so how are the gingers coming along, have they grown any?

Nev luckily I already have friends that are waiting on a pup of the Vriesea cv. as I was a bit worried about how many pups it came with when I first got it as a present and could see how quickly it could take over, but I cant help but want to keep a few for myself because of that stunning dimensional flower.

Nev pleased to hear you finally worked out how to download pics from your camera as I was missing seeing your usual beautiful display of brom pics. Thanks for posting pics of how you keep your seedling, they look fantastic Nev and are clearly happy growing this way with their lids off and I cant wait to do the exact same with mine - chomping at the bit I am he he.

Hi Jean like you I need to do a stocktake on my broms but for me this will have to wait till Im on holidays as I just dont have time just now but when Im off it should hopefully only take me a couple of days to check and compile a list.

Jean sounds like you are getting more rain, I hope it does not disturb you too much so you can get things done that you want to achieve around the garden. Fantastic group pics of all your broms, they are all showing fantastic colour.

Jean I hope the Lotto Fairy comes your way too!!!

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

No pics tonight as I need to take more over weekend.

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 8, 2013
5:21 AM

Post #9704572

Hi everyone,

Nev, billbergias are my latest thing. I had never really cared that much for them until just recently, after seeing some of the absolutely gorgeous colours in the bills available at the moment. I think Ive just about gone the full 360 degrees now but I still favour neos and vrieseas as well as the bills and of course aechmeas and the bigenerics too.

Nev, the wooden stakes I use are barbeque skewers. They are 30 cm long and thicker than most. Our local Coles has them for $3.00 for a pack of 80, theyre in the bbq section. Ill post a pic of the pack so you know what to look for.

Ian, love the bill in your pic 5. What is the little variegated neo below it, please.

Trish, yeahh, its Friday night again. We have been to obedience training with Molly on Friday nights for the last two months, next week is the final week. She is doing fairly well, she knows what shes expected to do, just sometimes doesnt want to but then, thats dobermanns, theyre control freaks.

Trish, I didnt know you had my name down for a pup of neo Cee Bee, I had forgotten all about it, sorry. Obviously, my record keeping is nearly as bad as my memory. Thanks so much. Love your neo pups in your pics.

Wendy, thanks for the pic of the bill seed pod. I will have to check mine tomorrow and Ill bet your right I wont be able to find a pod full of seed. Next time were over to see you, you will have to show me.

Therese, hope you get your lotto win and get to conduct your experiment wouldnt it be nice !!!

Jean, hope the lotto fairy finds you too. And me too, for that matter.

My pics tonight are pic 1 Vr Eva x Charlotte, pic 2 neo red Africa, pic 3 neo Silverado, pic 4 neo Hot Blooded, pic 5 Wiltshire bbq skewers

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 8, 2013
10:46 AM

Post #9704771

Hi everyone - Here we are again at the start of another weekend; where did the week go? Again it will give all of our members who have to go to work during the week, a chance to enjoy and work with their brom collections.

Jean - Good luck to you with your cataloguing, it's a time consuming job but rewarding nevertheless as you no doubt will find plants you had forgotten you even had, at least that's what I found.

I suspect that the foliage on Bill. 'Pink Ladd' (unreg.) should have more colour as I found the plant poked away in a protected corner among a few other cold sensitive plants where I put it prior to winter. I have four of these crosses which are Allan Ladd hybrids using Bill.pyramidalis concolour as one of the parents; they all have the typical pyramidalis flower head but it's the foliage that's the main attraction with most of them being in the burgundy tones. I'm not sure what the foliage colour on this one should be, maybe "pink" as the name suggests? Unfortunately, I have found with them all that they are very cold sensitive.

Nice pic's Jean with lots of colour happening as the weather warms up.

Trish - It seems that you are the person responsible for carrying and spreading the incurable disease of bromeliaditis around your work site. The way you are going you will soon have an epidemic starting there. How about expanding it a bit more and inviting these people to this site, that way you can be sure they will be well and truly hooked!

That Vriesea of yours we've been discussing is certainly worth keeping a couple of extra pups from to grow into plants as it has such a beautiful inflorescence and although the flowers are short lived, the bracts are very long lasting which makes it an ideal plant to take indoors for a bit of added colour in the home. Just a little bit of advice, don't be too hasty to remove the pups, let them get a bit of size first, that way they won't suffer any set backs when removed.

Shirley - I was never really keen on Billbergias either, that is until I first saw Bill. 'Hallelujah' and I think from then on my interest grew as more and more of the newer hybrids with the colourful markings became available. I still have a few of the original species in the garden, but they are boring (colour wise) as almost all are that grey/green colour. I think an added bonus with Bill's is that they don't take up too much bench space with their long thin shape.

Thanks for the info on the skewers - I too use 30cm bamboo kebab skewers (different brand) but the ones in your pic's look thicker than the ones we get. Are they actually thicker or is it a trick of the camera; could you measure the thickness of one please so I know what I'll be looking for?

Nice pic's once again but I'm not familiar with any of them except Neo.' Silverado'. My Silverado is growing beneath 50% green shade cloth and is a very different colour to yours; in fact I'll take a pic today just for comparison and to re-inforce just what an effect the different degrees of light can have on plant colour. I think out of the four you've posted, the Neo. 'Hot Blooded' is definitely my favourite and I see on the BCR that it's another from the stable of that great Queensland hybridist Alan Freeman. Dare I say that your plant is much nicer than the one on the BCR, both in colour and shape.
See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=4935#4935

Well I guess that's it for this morning so a few more new pic's I took the other day to finish with. The first three are Nidularium NOIDS I came across by chance the other day and the last two are just a couple of random bench shots in the shade house that was the vegie garden in former life.

All the best, Nev.

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dalfyre
Christchurch
New Zealand

November 8, 2013
11:26 AM

Post #9704781

Shirley - had to smile at your comment re. Dobermann's...
have seen a few at dog training over the years & all of them have been so good - until Novice level where you do the stay exercise with back turned to the dog.
You can see the wheels turning in their mind as they realise - you can't see me... and then they are off & running :)
Much like a certain spotted weasel dog I happen to own!

Sorry for going off topic everyone else :)

77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 8, 2013
1:50 PM

Post #9704870

Hello everyone.
The sun is shining after a cold day with rain all day yesterday.
The rain was needed but it gets frustrating when one wants to be outside doing things.

Nev, as I have very few broms compared to everyone on here, my cataloging takes no time at all .
I just need to get the time to do it all at once.
Having the vrieseas now in the long greenhouse makes it easier . I am slowly getting to know my plants by just looking as I used to do with the irises in flower.
Once I know where each plant is I will hopefully learn to recognise them without having to reach for the label.

Nev, I will be potting my broms today while the sun is out.
I was going to do it yesterday but had to leave them as hubby wasnt well and had to go to the doctor. .
He has to go back next week for more tests which hopefully will show nothing serious.


Bill. Hallelujah must be responsible for getting a lot of people hooked on broms. I know I fell in love with ti and was infected with the bromeliaditis disease too.

Nev, my dragon lily is blooming with two huge burgundy flowers.
How is your one doing ?

Trish, how lovely that you have workmates getting interested in your broms.
Nice way to make pocket money and have something in common to chat about.

Shirley, your Molly sounds so loveable. I had a beautiful doberman years ago.
Very obedient when I was looking but could be naughty when she thought she couldnt be seen.
Your neos Red Africa and Silverdo are beautiful.

Better get myself out and enjoy the sun because it will probably disappear again soon.
No pics today.
Happy day
Jean.

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 9, 2013
6:16 AM

Post #9705201

Hi all,

Nev, the bbq skewers are 4 mm thick and quite strong. They dont bend or break like the skinnier ones. Looking forward to seeing the colour of your neo Silverado, mine used to be much darker but I moved it when it got a bit burned.

Therese, Molly is really well behaved when I work with her at home but when we go to doggy school she is distracted by the other dogs in the class and she wants to play not work. She can be such a stubborn little b*tch but she is a real smoocher too ... we love her to bits and our Rebel too. What type of dog is your spotted weasel.

Jean, sunshine yeahhhh. Hope your hubbys tests come back normal. As for Molly, most of the time she is lovable but goes through episodes of crazy molly and runs riot through the house. She is so fast and races at full throttle and then skates on the ceramic tiles. She is oblivious to anything or anyone that might be in her way.

Hi to everyone else, hope you are all enjoying your weekend.

Pic 1 Neo Mister Odean, pic 2 neo Sherlette Shigi, pic 3 Neo Gee Whiz, pic 4 a rather cooked neo Macho, pic 5 Neo NOID ... any ideas, please

Bye, Shirley


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dalfyre
Christchurch
New Zealand

November 9, 2013
10:25 AM

Post #9705402

I bought a 'New Zealand Gardener' magazine & what did I see - a lovely photo of a garden full of bromeliads!
It was a reader photo of their garden in Oakura, Northland
.
http://www.oakurabay.co.nz/

Obviously if I ever want a brom collection I need to move North...

Shirley - the spotted weasel is a Dalmatian - pop into the tea room for more tales of her exploits & the odd photo - great place to share the adventures of Molly too :)
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 9, 2013
12:28 PM

Post #9705472

Hi everyone - Here we are again at the weekend and I'm still awaiting the rain the weather forecasters have promised. It has become cooler though and very overcast so I live in hope. I even have a trolley full of Billbergias dragged up into the garage for a bit of "wet weather re-potting" if it does rain.

Theresa - Don't worry too much about going off topic, I'm always getting side tracked; but I did have a chuckle at your comment though.

Jean - One sure thing about being interrupted when you are re-potting, it will always still be there when you get back to it.

I hope hubby's OK and the tests come back showing zilch; it seems like every time we go to the doctor now they order a blood test of some sort. My old mate often said that the doctors were just looking after each other, and if they couldn't find anything wrong they would send you for a blood test, an X-Ray or refer you to a specialist; he said it was called continuity of work and "looking after your mates". I had to remind him that all of these various tests had picked up various problems he had and they were able to be treated early and successfully.

Bill. Hallelujah as well as being responsible for getting a lot of people hooked on Bill's, (a good name for a song; "Hooked on Bill's" Ha! Ha!) it has also proved to be a reliable parent which passes on a lot of its qualities to its seedlings.

My Dragon Lily is about two feet high now and copped a bit of a bashing with the recent hot winds; however except for a couple of burnt leaves it was OK when I last looked about a week ago and as yet nothing resembling a flower. I didn't expect flowers as I thought it probably would take the first year to acclimatise anyway.

It seems to me you best follow the old saying and "Make hay while the sun shines" judging by the amount of rain you've had. I just wish we could get some, as everything's so dry up here, even right beside the coast.

Shirley - Wow! 4mm thick eh? It seems they are just what I'm looking for so it looks like I'll have to send the girls to Coles and see what they can come up with. I suppose another option would be the BBQ section at Bunnings or Barbecues Galore if our Coles don't have them. Anyway thanks for the info.

It must be something about the name "Molly"; my daughter has a dog which I think she said is an American Staffy and she seems to have all the qualities you describe. She plays with the grandson and they play chasings though the house and I said to my daughter it seemed like she was feeding her red cordial, Ha! Ha!

Nice pic's once again; your Mister Odean is only a young plant yet and with more light should take on more of the unusual light brown colour it's recognised for. I've never been able to acquire the correct colour down here and I think it's due to the lower light quality but next year it will be hanging right up beneath the beige shade cloth roof to see if it improves. See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=5851#5851

Are you sure that the plant in Pic.5 isn't a pup I may have sent you? It looks very similar to one I have called Neo. 'Lambert's Pride' x ('Charm' x 'Cracker Jack') see my Pic.1. Is that triplets I see on your Neo.'Gee Whiz"? What are you feeding it?

Time to go again and a big hello to all the others who aren't posting at present and I hope you're all well and we'll hear from you again very soon. Also a big "Cheerio" to anyone on the sick list; get well soon.

Pic.1 for Shirley is Neo. 'Lambert's Pride' x ('Charm' x 'Cacker Jack') for comparison with her Pic.5, Pic.2 is my very uninteresting Neo. 'Silverado'; it usually doesn't have as much green and instead has more of the silvery centre colour, but next doors tree has been shading it which I didn't notice until I went to take the pic yesterday. Pic.3. Is the unusual Ae. filicaulis which is extremely difficult to photograph and capture the elegance of the unusual pendulous inflorescence, Pic.4 is Bill.'Pink Ladd' now in full flower and Pic.5 is the very large Neo. Braz-el also now in full colour.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

November 9, 2013
1:09 PM

Post #9705497

Hi all, oh what fun it is to catalogue the plants. I am still working on it and have the majority of it done. Now to do the ones in the front I have to move each plant to get it out of direct sunlight to get the colour something like what it ought to be.
This year I tried to pollinate several Bills without any luck whatsoever, last year they did it themselves. Tuff titty.
I have tried to cross N Maya with N Alluri just to see what happens.I also did some more catalogueing.is computer is playing up so I will try again after a reboot.
Ian
1 Guz Sunnytime Tricolour variegated
Pic 2 Neo Goldilocks
Pic 3 Neo mini maybe Furnace
Pic 4 Neo Kathleen
Pic 5 Neo The Duke

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dalfyre
Christchurch
New Zealand

November 9, 2013
3:06 PM

Post #9705578

there was more in the NZ Gardener mag about Broms...
the grower commented on people being surprised to see them in sun as the they think they are shade lovers - and other folk are surprised to see them in shade as they think they are all sun lovers...
his comment - there are bromeliads for all situations.

And pictured on the page is Alcantarea vinicolour planted along side blood grass - Imperata cylindrica 'Red Baron'.
Looks stunning.

77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 9, 2013
3:43 PM

Post #9705592

I'm sitting here with the heater on again. Only 6C earlier.
I wonder where Spring went ?
Yesterday I sat down in the back shadehouse and potted my lovely broms from Nev & Shirley.
It was a bit cold but the sun came out a few times.
That particular shadehouse was our first venture in building one. It is attached to an old milking shed .
Being situated where it is , all the cold winds sweep from the south up the hill.
Its made of corrugated iron so we continued that for the back wall.
The old milking shed and 3 other very small sheds are all joined , so make the west wall.
The rest is shadecloth with the alsinite roof.
Makes a cosy place to sit and do my brom potting.
Also a great place as nursery for small and newly potted broms. .

Nev, thats a very long flower stem in your pic 3.
I keep watching my neo Braz-el in hope that it will eventually look like yours.
It is starting to color nicely.
I notice hubby is wandering down to look at the broms more often now, so he must be realising why I like them so much.
Nev, glad the dragon lily is doing well.
It will start to die off soon so make sure you have the spot marked . It should flower next time.

Ian, I am hoping to have pics of all my broms one day. I keep reminding myself to take pics immediately of any new ones. I can then compare pics as they mature.
I do like your neo Goldilocks and the nice even color in your other neo The Duke.
Could I ask if you have a spare pup from Goldilocks at all ?

Teresa, go for it, if broms like my climate, they should like yours.
You can always move them for the winter. They are certainly easier to move around than a lot of plants.

Shirley, may I ask you to add me to your list for a pup from your neo Mr Odean.
I do like the color tones in it.

I may venture out now the temp has gone up to 13C.
I want to get started on putting the retic hose up in the greenhouse ready for summer.

Hope you all get lots of rain or sun as needed.
Jean.

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 10, 2013
2:18 AM

Post #9705755

Hi everyone,

Therese, as much as I would love to pop into the tea room and chat, I dont have time to do the things I really need to do now. I spend too much time in front of the computer as it is, Id never catch up with the many jobs on my looonng list of things to do maybe some day !!!

Nev, if you have trouble finding the bbq skewers, I can always pop a couple of packs in the mail for you.

Nev, my neo NOID is one I purchased as neo Gespacho which it obviously isnt, hence another NOID. It doesnt have the lovely colour that yours does, any chance of going on your pup list for that one please, its a beauty.

Yes, there are three pups on neo Gee Whiz. Its one that is up the back where it gets very little attention. I water the broms in that area with bore water, maybe theres something good in the water. The broms in the other brom house are watered with rain water come to think of it, I get more pups from the ones up the back hhmmm I wonder. Your neo Braz-el is quite stunning, Nev.

Ian, keep plugging away with your cataloguing, youll get there soon. You will have to stop buying more broms till you catch up. Your neo The Duke is lovely, if you ever find you have a spare pup, I would love to do a swap.

Jean, glad you got your newbies potted up. Gee, 6 degrees there and were sweltering here. We had a storm this arvo and got a few drops of rain very few. I will gladly put you name against neo Mister Odean for a pup. Its not much more than a pup itself but its starting to colour up nicely.

My pic 1 is neo Lava Swirl, pic 2 neo Brushstrokes, pic 3 neo Jinx, pic 4 Vriesea Fosteriana with 8 pups at last count, pic 5 Vr Fosteriana pups


Bye, Shirley



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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

November 10, 2013
3:18 AM

Post #9705759

A big g'day to everyone. Well, my weekend's run away on me. Up 3am tomorrow and head off to work, so away from home again no doubt wondering how my new broms are doing.

Got them all potted up. The Guzmanias are in an organic potting mix with slow release fertiliser. The Tillandsias are in bark, about three quarters old breaking down eucalyptus wood chips and quarter broken up mahogany bark. The Guzmanias went into my shade house. The shade house is under a large Poinciana and while new leaves haven't filled the canopy I put palm fronds on the roof of the shade house. When the tree canopy fills I remove the fronds.

The Tillandsias are under a tree where they will get a light sprinkling and very good light. When I get back from work I'll see how they all coped.

I've included some photos, first is when the Guzmanias were potted up and the Tillandsias laid out. The second is all of them lined up, Guzmanias at the back and Tillandsias in the foreground. The third photo I thought I might throw in sunset at my place tonight.

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shellharbour
Australia

November 10, 2013
12:10 PM

Post #9706033

Hi everyone - Well at last it's arrived - we've had drizzling rain part of yesterday afternoon and all night last night and it's still drizzling. Good light rain that will soften up the ground sufficiently so that if we get any heavy stuff it will soak in and not run off and down the gutters and out to sea.

I didn't get anything done in the garden yesterday but I was finally able to make a start on cleaning up and re-potting my Billbergias which I had brought into the garage the day before just in case the forecast rain did arrive, and I'm now congratulating myself on a "good move".

Ian - I'm now starting to catalogue my Bill's and as they all have to be re-potted, so what better time to do it?

An interesting lot of pic's you've posted today; is that variegated Guz. 'Sunnytime' a sport that has come on your plain foliaged plant? It looks great and now all you have to do is stabilise it so that future generations from it are the same. Although 'Sunny Time' is a great plant and a lot of people have it, there is very little known about it; no parent, no hybridist and just a vague listing as an "exotic plant". A most unusual BCR entry.
See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=GUZMANIA&id=2736#2736

I'm always interested in hearing about new crosses especially ones made by members on this site, I know Neo.'Maya' but have never seen Neo.'Alluri', do you have a pic.?

Neo 'The Duke' is a great looking Neo which was first registered about 10 years ago and is one of Sharon Peterson's Hawaiian hybrids. Great shape and dense colour.

The plant you have listed as Neo. 'Kathleen' is not the same as the one registered under that name. So either someone has put their own "pet name" on your plant or somewhere the name tags have been mixed up. I think your plant could be Neo 'Yellow King' what do you think? http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7844#7844

Theresa - I have to agree with those comments that there are brom's for all situations, however a lot of brom's that are grown in full sun in N.Z. can't be grown in full sun here as apparently the UV intensity (the bit that causes sunburn) is greater in Australia than NZ and damage would result if they were given full exposure here.

Just for the record; UV cannot be seen or felt. It is not like the suns light which we see, or the suns warmth (infrared radiation) which we feel. Our senses cannot detect UV so it can be damaging without us knowing and the same damage can occur with our brom's.

Jean - Gee that Victorian weather is really giving you a rough time isn't it? Did you once run your place as a dairy farm? If so I'll bet you're glad you now don't have to get up early and milk anymore, brrrrrrrrr.

Yes Jean the inflorescence on Ae. filcaulis is very long and looks quite fragile as well. Although quite interesting, and a good conversation piece when in flower, I mainly grow the plant for it's burgundy coloured foliage as the flowers themselves are quite insignificant.

13C. heh? Gee Jean, that would have to almost be a "heat wave" for you down there given the weather you've been getting lately wouldn't it?

Shirley - Thanks for the kind offer of the skewers, however now that I know what I'm looking for maybe I'll find them down here. I usually just buy the skewers I use in the cooking section, I never thought about looking in the barbecue section. So, BBQ section here I come!

Gespacho can sometimes be a little unstable (See Pic's.1 and 2) and it's understandable that the seller thought what you got was true to name. Do its pups have the same colour and pattern as it does? That plant I posted the pic. of was pretty well at the same stage of maturity as yours was. I'll add you to the list, but be warned the pup from it could turn out differently to the one in the pic also.

You may have some new secret ingredient in your bore water that increases fertility - maybe a new fertility drug?

I also have a Neo. 'Brushstrokes' but it looks a bit different to yours (I'll try and find a pic), but as they are both unregistered I guess we are both stuck with plant with different "pet names".

Have you been watering the Vr. fosteriana in your pic. With the same bore water as your Neo.'Gee Whiz'? Mmmmmmmm, something in that thar water!

Tropicbreeze - Are you one of those "Fly in fly out workers which are becoming so popular these days, and if so how far away from home do you work, obviously too far away to water the brom's.

I'll be interested to see how your plants go in the eucalyptus chips and mahogany bark; is that what the brom growers use up there in your area? A lot of the growers I know in tropical north Queensland use a type of volcanic gravel as a potting medium and get good results from that. We can get eucalyptus chips and a fine eucalyptus mulch down here and I've been thinking about trying it on a few plants as I don't think the hardwood would break down as quickly as the pine bark which is commonly used by most growers. We must all continually try new things, that's how we improve our cultural methods.

That's a nice little stash of plants you've acquired there and I hope they all like living there. When you say about putting the palm fronds on the roof of your shade house reminds me of my first shade house when I was 12, that's exactly what I used, and later graduated to threading Ti-Tree brush in and out the wire netting on the roof. I would do tis in summer and by the time the leaves had fallen off the Ti-Tree brush it would be winter and the plants could get more light. It was a very time consuming annual job though and I'm glad I don't have to do it any more.

I really like the shot of the "tropical sunset", you should be sitting under those palms with a nice cold beer in your hand.

Well that's it for today and todays pic's are Pic.1 and 2 Neo.'Gespacho' pups just to show how they can sometimes vary due to being unstable. Pic.3 is a plant I bought as Neo. macwilliamsii (Is it or isn't it Ian?) Pic.4 is a little mini Neo. I have called Neo.'Aleena' and pic.5 is a very slow growing plant I once swapped labeled as Neo.'Fury' but is unregistered.

All the best, Nev.


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ianperry

November 11, 2013
2:54 AM

Post #9706425

Hi all, I went to the market knowing that I should not do so and came back with a valuable haul, well to me anyway. Afterwards we had our group xmas lunch and a meeting to finish off the year with. We sent off a very knowledgable member and she gave me some very detailed literature that she used during her learning experience. I know we will miss her both as a person and her valuable knowledge.
Just to tease you I gained a Neo Odean Hear plant and on closer inspection it is just about to flower. I am still at the stage where if I know that I have a plant on my wish list and I see it I will get it and think about it later. I also bought a pup of Serendipity Girl.There were a couple of Neo minis as well. These plants have been added to my catalogueing system.
As a water saving idea and it works if one hads a concrete floor that I am trying is to put up shallow walls2-3" high and fill with gravel and put my plants, I am using this area for Crypthansus. I sit the pots on the gravel and then water the plants, catching the runoff to humidify the area. I also have a few seedlings in that area. I am an experimenter and sometimes these ideas don't work too well.I hope to do this to 4 bays where the dog pens were.Now they have plenty of pups that don't bark but when they grow they could scratch.
Shirley the plant you asked about is Neo Perfection, it used to be called Neo Fosperior Perfection.
Jean sorry but Neo Goldilocks has not pupped for me yet, but I can put your name on one when it arrives.
Nev Alluri or is Allure I have both names from local sellers and have not checked as to which one is correct. 1 of them is in Pic 5
I saw some comments on Neo Kathleen some time ago and remember there was another name being used as a replacement name. I am not sure of the details though. This plant I bought as Neo Catherine but was told that it is not. It has coloured up since.
Guz Sunnyvine Tricolour variegated came from Olive Branch via Big W last year. It lost colour soon after I got it home and had it in Quarrantine and has only just started to colour up again, I am not sure whether it is the pup or old plant that has the colour.
Your plant with the red centre is either compacta or eltoniana. I suspect that it could be eltoniana as it has darkish colours similar to mine but that is not much of an indicator. The stolon length is the way to tell. The stolons on eltoniana are longer8"+ and are much shorter on compacta.
Nice pics all
have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Bil possibly Santa Barbara
Pic 2 Neo flumensis pup
Pic 3 Ae kerteziae
Pic 4 Crypt Macintosh
Pic 5 Neo Alluri

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 11, 2013
3:09 AM

Post #9706428

Hi Everyone!

We had a lovely weekend but it was over way too quick. I did get to spend about a half day in the garden amongst my brom on Saturday after we got back from the beach and the market. Sunday was a little stretched for proper garden time as we had visitors chew into some of the day but it was nice kicking back for a change and catching up with friends instead of our broms and orchids, then once they had left we spent a couple of hours giving everything a really good water and plucking fallen avocado leaves out of some of my broms. This weekend I will need to rake up all the avocado and mango leaves that have fallen during last week with the wind and rain we had, these I like to use as they make great mulch around the garden once dried out.

Hi Shirley pleased to hear Molly is going great with her training, she sounds like a beautiful dog and very much loved by her new family (including Rebel), its great she is settling down so well with you all.

Shirley no worries, at least you know I have your name down for Neo. Cee Bee and I will let you know when a pup pops up available. Nice brom pics you posted these past couple of days and those BBQ Skewers you use are great and are a fantastic price for 80 in a pack.

Hi Nev yes your right the bromeliad epidemic at my place of work is slowly spreading he he. I have told them about this great forum so you never know; possibly some may look in or join in at some stage as it would be great for them?

Nev in relation to the discussion we were having last week regarding the Vriesea cv. I got as a present for my birthday, I totally agree with you that I should not be too hasty in cutting the pups off too early, I would prefer to let them get to a good size and then transplant them all into a larger pot (mum and all the pups) and then at a later stage take a few pups off that I promised to friends. Nev great pics you posted these past couple of days.

Nev check-out below progress pics of all the beautiful seedlings you sent me, some have really grown as well as some are starting to show some colour. So how do you think they are travelling so far, I hope I am doing them justice Nev like they deserve?

Hi Jean I hope your hubbys tests come back normal so you can both rest from worrying.

Jean thanks I am really pleased that some of my friends at work are starting to collect bromeliads and are asking questions about them, for some it is the first thing they have ever collected something in their lives, their first hobby so I am thrilled to bits that I got them started with just giving them a couple of broms as a gift to get started and some basic cultural notes on how to grow them and naturally if they have any questions they know I am here to help.

Hi Ian sounds like you are having fun cataloguing all your bromeliads, I am sure once the jobs done you will be pleased with yourself and knowing what you have and how many of everything. I am planning to do the same when I am on my next break as I have a database that I started using but I have fallen behind updating, but it will be useful when its updated because you can print great reports of what you have and how many you have of everything. Isnt Neo. Duke a nice brom, I have this one and really like its great shape and nice overall colour.

Hi Tropicbreeze, nice pics of all your new broms and sounds like you found great places to keep them all and I am sure they will be fine whilst youre away.

Anyway time to head as got to get up early.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pics 1 to 5 Progress pics on how all the seedling are growing that Nev sent me.
I will post some more pics tomorrow.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 11, 2013
3:18 AM

Post #9706429

Ian, nice haul of broms there! You will not be disappointed with Neo. 'Serendipity Girl', mine has doubled in size since I got it. What does 'Odean Hear' look like, would luv to see a pic of it and great that it's in flower for you.

Cheers

Trish
perke_patch

November 11, 2013
5:34 AM

Post #9706507

Hi everyone. nice to be able to keep up with the reading. I've had 4 early nights in a row so caught up on the sleep. I also started swimming or walking in the mornings. I thought I was meeting my sister at aqua aerobics this morning and Johnny dropped me off taking the grandkids to school. my sister was going to drop me home after aqua but I got the days mixed up and it was tomorrow we were going. oh well I spent the hour walking up and down, backwards, forwards, sideways, with deep dips etc. then I walked home. felt wonderful. I bought a years pass which allows me to swim, do aqua and use their gym as often as I like for a whole year. my bp will be down low again in no time (as long as I keep going now)

Mr Odean is one of my favourites at present. the colour is so caramel while neo chocolate is more brown coloured. I suspect they may be from the same batch of seedlings. when I first got them I was sure they were the same plant but growing them side by side and you watch them colouring up the difference is so obvious. I think because I like them so much I must have showed Shirley and she liked Mr Odean as much as I do. hence she bought it. not sure if neo odean head is similar or not.

Trish you have a nice lot of seedlings there. I noticed neo Phyllis O.T. on a label. The story I heard from Phyllis Hobbs is that she and Olive Trevor each took a NOID neo to a meeting of BCR on same night seeking an id. neither of them got a name for their broms but they agreed to swap plants as both had spares at home. so Olive called hers Phyllis and the OT stands for Olive's initials. Phyllis called hers Olive but was later changed to morrissiana which they now think is same as Rosy Morn.
I love all the billbergia pics at present. I really have a soft spot for all those colourful bills. Nev the seed only takes a couple months to ripen and once I was told to watch for the colour change and the softening I have no problem catching the seeds. I have some nice bill seedlings just starting to get some colour. they are some crosses I did with sanderiana trying to get some nice colour with those impressive black teeth. about half the seedlings have nice teeth while rest have mush smaller normal teeth. I put sanderiana onto anything else flowering at same time so I knew what those crosses were but I also put the pollen the other way onto sanderiana. when it came time to harvest I'd used tooth pics to show crossed pods and i'd marked them with coloured bands on the toothpics but unfortunately he colours all ran and some toothpics fell out so those seedlings are just labelled as sanderiana 1, 2, 3, & 4. I'm thinking that maybe the colours will show which the pollen parent was.
Nev if you find that you have some spare pups of some really nice billbergias I'd love to swap some. mine are now finally growing nicely since I repotted them down to smaller pots. they seem to prefer smaller. also the ones I have put where they are getting pure sunshine for part of the day are multiplying much better than the ones down side of the house only getting filtered light in afternoons. Johnny keeps saying I need to let some of them go but I haven't made too many spare pots. I prefer to separate the pups but put them back into the same pot with mum.
Hi to everyone: Ian, Nev, Jean, Trish, Tash, Sue, Jen, Cody, tropicbreeze, and anyone else I may have forgotten.
Anyway best be off to bed now so I can get up for aqua aerobics in the morning.
My big computer is not working again. think it may be a monitor problem this time so I'll upload pics tomorrow night. the upload button isn't showing again below so I'd have to post this then attach pics to new post so tomorrow will do.

Night all
Wendy
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 11, 2013
12:37 PM

Post #9706808

Hi everyone - Unfortunately I already had a page typed up and because I'm on another computer and using a different programme to Word (It's called Kingsoft Writer); somehow I've managed to delete what I've already typed ... Bugger!!!

Ian - What you say about your water conservation methods is very similar to what I did many years ago when I grew Cattleya orchids where I previously lived. It was pretty dry there and I had trouble obtaining sufficient humidity in the fibre glass shade house where they grew. I covered the benches with standard size corrugated iron and blocked each end and then filled up the hollows with fine blue metal (any sort of gravel would do). I sat the pots on top of this and when I watered, the water would lie in the hollows of the corrugations around the fine blue metal which remained constantly damp. The humidity this system created suited the plants and the dampness at the bottom of the pot also encouraged the roots to grow down much quicker as they looked for water. The system I now use for my seedlings is a modification of that system, only now the plants are smaller and they stand in a polystyrene box on a bed of damp Coco Peat. I still find similar results though with the damp Coco Peat base encouraging quicker root development.

Trish - Pleased to hear you got to spend some time with your brom's at the weekend but the weekends do go very quickly don't they?

Your little seedlings are looking great; much better than they would have been down here in my overcrowded conditions. I noticed in the front row of pic.3 there are some Neo. Phyllis OT crosses. I have some that are almost mature now and they are all large plants and much more suited to the garden than on benches in the shade house. They are all very similar in colour to the Phyllis OT parent shown in the pic on the BCR.
See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=9858#9858

Wendy - The story of Phyllis OT is a very confused one. When we read what Derek Butcher has written on the BCR, he says that the OT stands for "Other Type". I won't go into all of the detail except to say that the Neo.'Phyllis' I would have liked to get was just plain Neo.'Phyllis' which is a more beautiful plant in nice soft pastel shades. It is a hybrid from Allan Freeman and a cross between Neo.'Two Tone' and Neo. cruenta 'Broadleaf'.
You can read it all at: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=6295#6295
Incidently if anyone here has the plain Neo.'Phyllis' I would be happy to swap something fo it.

As for the Billbergia pups, I should have some to swap when I finally get mine all sorted out and when I do I'll post some pic's.

Yes, like you I found they do prefer smaller pots, even to the extent where they almost seem badly "pot bound" and mine have gone ahead in leaps and bounds since I hung them right up just below the beige coloured shade cloth.

That will have to do me for today Pic.1 is Bill. 'Pink Ladd' with the flowers now fully open and the other 4 pictures are just random shots of some Neo's.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 11, 2013
1:43 PM

Post #9706849

Hello everyone.
Not much doing here as its still cold and showery.
I have potted all my new broms though and moved a few around as they color up.
I removed a few pups and had fun removing pups from my two prickly recurvatas.
One was labelled as aech recurvata while the other which I bought much later was labelled rucurvata x recurvata .
The first is more of a lighter green and the other darker as you see from the pics.

They have both been sitting next to each other out in the open for a few years now.
Both have flowered and the flowers were similar .
Now I have Aztec Gold, I will make a little border of them all.
Does anyone have any of the other recurvatas at all ?
I see on the FCBS there is also benratii, ortgiesii and albobractata.
Really interesting reading about how Aztec Gold came into being.
I must try a few experiments with getting more pups.

Nev, regarding the old milking shed here, no I never had any cows. It was probably built just for the family who owned the place . It would only hold a few cows at once.
It would have been way back in the early pioneer days as the area all around here up from Portland is one of the oldest in the state for settlement.
Hubby had bought the place before we met.
I find the little sheds are handy as storage sheds for my pots and other garden stuff. The part we used to build the shadehouse on has a high roof and being on the weather end, makes the whole shadehouse less windy and cold.

Trish, I showed hubby your seedling pics , now hes thinking I will start loading up the lounge table with more seedlings...lol

I keep my little seeds there where they get sun and they live on the table until its warm enough for them to go out in the greenhouse. There is always some sort of container with seeds. Usually my brugs but lately, broms.
Isnt it lovely when people suddenly start growing plants you have shown them.

Ian, your neo Alluri looks like my neo Allure. I too bought one labelled with a misspelled name. Luckily the kind people on here knew what it may be and when I checked, sure enough it was Allure.

Shirley, as always , your pics are so beautiful .
I will show the pic of your vr fosteriana pups to my vriesea so it knows what to do when it grows a bit more.

Wendy, you sound like me, I am really getting into the bills. My bill Hallelujah is still my favorite as it was the first for me besides the common Queens Tears.
I have a couple of noids that I grabbed on sale for just a few dollars a few months ago.
I could see they were meant to be much nicer and had been neglected. After getting all the great advice on here about light affecting color, I knew they could be lovely.
I have them hanging high in good light and am being rewarded with pretty spots coming out and both are flowering . It will be interesting to see any pups now because they should appear in the original colors of their poor neglected mums..
I will post pics when the flowers open .

Hello to everyone else. I had better get myself motivated and do something domestic.

pic 1...aech recurvata

pic 2... aech recurvata x recurvata

pic 3... flower on recurvata 2 years ago.

pic 4...Shirleys lovely aech Aztec Gold with the stripes becoming more prominent.

Jean.

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ianperry

November 12, 2013
2:10 AM

Post #9707247

Hi all, here again and have had a good day. I did nought with my plants today except to take a few pics.
Odean Head is a surprise plant to me. I would have been thinking of Mr Odean when I bought it. When I looked at the centre today there appears to be a flower spike forming. At this stage it appears similar to a Vr, Al or Ae forming down deep in the well. I have not noticed a Neo forming like this before, that could be because of my observation skills or maybe for some other reason. I will keep my eyes peeled to see what happens. I didn't even spell it correctly last night. This is in Pic 2
Pic 1 is my Ae Yarn not registered flowering today. I cannot see any Bilbergia or Quesnelia in it. I am just keeping records of this plant at the moment.
Pic 3 Neo Grace, what a beauty and it is one that I have raised here. I am very happy with it.
Pic 4 Is Neo Serendipity Girl that I just purchased on Sunday. It looks like it has a lot of potential, now all I have to do is to find where it is happiest and grow it.
Pic 5 is another Neo this time Red Rocket just starting to colour up nicely. This one I have had for a few months.
Jean I have in the front garden in full sun a n Ae recurvate that is yellow and for a time it was green and then red tips during flowering time. I have one in the bush house that is green. I have another with black markings in the upper part of the leaves. I thought it May be Inky but I have seen a lot lately that look similar and are called recurvate benrathii. Now I am not sure which one it is. I need to do some research on this.This latter one pups readily and I would have spares of it.
Trish I had a spelling error and maybe the plant has been mislabelled. Itt is in Pic 2 labelled as
Neo Odean Head. I think that may be the name of the hybridiser. I suspect that the name of it could be Mr Odean.
Nev I will write another entry tonight on Neo macwilliamsii
Ian

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ianperry

November 12, 2013
2:29 AM

Post #9707249

Hi Nev , Below are some pics to show the difference between Neo compacta Pic 1 Neo macwilliamsii Pics 2 3 4 and Neo eltoniana.
Neo compacta has short stolons whereas Neo eltoniana has longer stolons. Neo macwilliamsii has a spotted red centre, the only one of the three to have the spots. At the moment mine has spots on the lower section outside on a pup. This is the first pup that I have grown so the first time that I have seen this characteristic of this plant.
My compacta is shade grown in a Lime tree.
Have a good one.
Ian
I am off to do some reading of when a plant needs a particular type of fertiliser, if I can find the literature.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 12, 2013
3:13 AM

Post #9707262

Hi Everyone!

We got some solid rain today for about an hour which was really nice and it looks like more rain is heading our way really soon tonight so that will be nice. All the frogs are singing loudly off and on in the garden and I cant help but stop typing to listen to their beautiful songs when they do go off into a chorus. It looks like we are going to get a really wet arse really soon as the large strip of rain heading our way looking at the weather map is widening and getting closer and closer.

Hi Wendy thanks for the story you heard about Neo. Phyllis O.T., wow thats such a nice story and nice to know how its name came about.

Wendy your aqua aerobics sounds like a great way to start the day including the walking. I swim every morning and walk in the evenings and really enjoy both immensely. I used to also walk for an hour during my lunch break but it is now getting too hot to do so but I miss my lunch time walks.

Hi Nev thanks pleased to hear you are happy with how all the seedlings are going, I am very pleased with their progress and am looking at re-potting some of the ones that are getting too big for their pot. Nev thanks for providing the BSI link, I thought it was one that Rob Smythe had registered. I am looking forward to growing this one in my garden for years to come. I like how you describe what Neo. Phyllis looks like with the soft pastel shades and hope you are able to track down a plant for yourself, would it be worthwhile checking to see if Rob Smythe has one? I am happy to pop over and see him if you like one weekend?

Nev I too find my Bills like smaller pots and the less you fuss over them the better they look I reckon. I too am chasing Bills as I do not have many in my collections so would luv to see pics if anyone has pups available for sale or swapping down the track.

Nev thats a pretty group of random pics you showed us with lovely colour in all your broms and what a beautiful flower that has opened on your Bill. Pink Ladd.

Hi Jean sorry to hear its still cold and windy your way and by the looks of things more rain is coming your way too so rug up. I spoke to mum on the weekend and she said the weather is crap - cold and miserable and to top things off she fell over in the garden and took some bark off her face, elbow and knee, went inside yelling that she was sick of life and the weather, patched herself back up and was back out in the garden again smiling and merrily gardened the rest of the day. God bless her heart I luv her, she cracks the shits like I do, gets over it pretty quickly and then gets back on track to get the job done she was trying to achieve he he.

Jean thanks ever so much, the beautiful parcel of Epis you sent me arrived in the mail today looking very happy and healthy. I am really looking forward to potting them up over the next couple of days, thanks heaps Jean, I will let you know as soon as one flowers 

Jean I will have to see if I have any other recurvatas and let you know? I possibly have one other somewhere in the garden but my memory is foggy so I will have to look?

Jean he he I laughed about what you said about your hubby and the seedlings, just tell him you need to get a bigger coffee table LOL. Mum too grows her seedlings inside to begin with because of the cold and has them in fish tanks, by the window sill etc LOL.

Jean yes I am really pleased that friends are now growing broms that I have shown them, its amazing how many dont even know what a bromeliad is and they think the plant is plastic LOL.

Jean great to hear you have potted up all your new broms, thats always a great feeling of achievement isnt it.

Hi Ian I adore Neo. Mister Odean and aside from having mature plants in the garden I also have many seeds that have germinated and are taking over the trays like grass he he but nature pollinated them so I have written on their label Neo. Mister Odean x ?

Ian I have my Neo. Serendipity Girl growing outdoors under 70% green shade cloth and its loving it there and has doubled in size since I got it. Your one is gorgeous and has much nicer markings than the one I got and appears to be of a nice size too so you have done really well with this one and I reckon its going to be a stunner when it matures given how beautiful it looks now.

Anyway time for me to head as my eyes are hanging out of my head LOL.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

No pics tonight as it is getting late and I am too tired and lazy to look sorry he he.

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 12, 2013
5:25 AM

Post #9707347

Hi all,

We have a light sprinkling of rain at the moment, not enough to do any good as yet, hoping well get more.

Nev, glad to hear you have been getting some rain. Gee, your neo Gespacho pups certainly look different, dont even look like the same plant. Your neo Aleena is very nice and your pic 5, neo Fury too, though my neo Fury is very different to yours, Nev. There is a neo Fury listed on the BCR, mine looks a bit like that one from memory, will have to get a photo for comparison.

Ian, I think your neo Odean Head is the same plant that is sold as neo Mister Odean. Lucky you, getting a pup of neo Serendipity Girl, that one is high on my wish list and has been for some time.

Trish, glad you had a lovely weekend, they do go by quickly, dont they. Your seedlings are coming along very nicely.

Wendy, the aqua aerobics sounds like a good idea, Ive been thinking about taking up some sort of regular exercise but I dont know when Id find the time. I hope it wasnt too hot when you walked home, make sure you drink plenty of water in this heat.

Wendy, I also got a neo Chocolate from you, both Mister Odean and Chocolate are lovely plants and are coming along beautifully. Ill have to check out your bill seedlings next time were over.

Jean, hope your vriesea gets the idea and has lots of pups for you. I have a few starting to get pups now but mostly only one or two pups, it would be nice if they all produced 8 in rapid succession like the Vr Fosteriana.

Ian, nice pics, lovely colours.

Trish, hope you dont get too much rain but its great that everyone seems to be getting a bit at the moment. Hope you mums injuries arent serious and heal quickly.

Hi to everyone else.

My photos tonight are quite dark, I took them late this arvo ... I thought they would come up better. Anyway pic 1 neo Lovely Lady, pic 2 neo Nelson, pic 3 neo Red Macaw, pic 4 neo Chlorosticta F2, pic 5 neo Rosella

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 12, 2013
1:27 PM

Post #9707673

Hi everyone - Well what a beautiful sunny day it turned out to be here yesterday; drizzling rain in the early morning and then the sun came out and stayed out all day; unfortunately I got nothing done in the garden as I spent the day at the museum and today there won't be much done either as the grandson comes to visit, but when Thursday comes I'll be back into the potting again.

Jean - I have quite a few Ae. recurvata plants and without exception I can honestly say they are the only plants I have that are happy right out in the open in all weather without any protection from the heat or the cold; and as I describe them to everyone, "they are bullet proof" but they must have good light to get the foliage colour.

I also have found a similar story with my Billbergias; they aren't out in the open but they are hanging high up beneath the beige shade cloth where they get very good light. The other thing I've found is that they love to be a little pot bound and do far better in a small size pot than a large one. I haven't given mine any fertiliser at all last year and the colour is great. They still get their dose of Seasol just like everything else but then that's just a tonic and not fertiliser.

Ian - I still think your plant could be Neo.'Mister Odean'- I've been thinking about this since you first posted it and have been trying to remember why Odean Head rang a bell with me, and then the light came on; he was/is a hybridiser and was the hybridiser who made Neo.'Mister Odean'. It was named in his honour by Don Beadle another well known hybridiser.

Odean Head has a quite impressive 46 hybrids registered on the BCR and they are all Neo's. See: http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?fields=Breeder&id=2881&search=head

Your Ae Yarn is quite a "looker" and I agree it looks more like a straight Aechmea to me also. You certainly got a "goodun" there.

You've done an exceptional job with you Neo. 'Grace', great colour. I have a Neo. 'Grace' (nowhere near as good as yours) and also another called Neo Grace U.S.A. - I don't know where the U.S.A. bit of the name came from but it was on the name tag when I bought it so that's how it stays (for now at least). It's a nice colour also and not dissimilar in colour to your plant, so maybe the other plant I have that's called Neo.'Grace' is an impostor and this plant in my Pic.1 is just Neo.'Grace' (without the USA)

You've really given us some great pic's to look at today and your young Neo,'Serendipity Girl' is no exception, so lets hope as it matures you can do as well with her colour as you did with Grace's.

Finally Neo.'Red Rocket', this is one I don't have (but would certainly like to) I do have some seedlings growing from seed a friend gave me of a selfing of this plant, so it will be interesting to see what they turn up.

Gee Ian, I've just got to the end of your post and see that you have come to the same conclusion about Mister Odean as I did. I should have read your post right through before I commented, but I got side tracked with your great pic's.

Thanks for the feedback on the compacta/macwilliamsii/eltoniana dilemma. According to what you say, none of my plants are Neo. Macwilliamsii as none have any spotting. (By the way if you have a spare pup of one with the spotting I'd like to swap)

This just leaves compacta and eltoniana; I have a plant of each of these growing side by side and the colour of the red centre of the eltoniana is much more vivid than the compacta and the stolens are 10" long. With the plant I previously though to be compacta the stolons are 8" long, so from what you say, this rules out it being compacta as you say compacta has short stolons. I think I need to take more accurate pic's of all of them and re-assess the situation again. Maybe a good topic to put up on one of the Brom. Forums and see what everyone says.

Trish - I seem to remember I once asked Rob (or maybe it was his son Aaron) if they had a pup of that Neo.'Phyllis' I'm chasing, however if you could ask on my behalf next time your over there I would very much appreciate it and of course re-imburse you for any monetary outlay.

I too am getting a bit interested in Bill's and am just now in the middle of potting and dividing mine, so no doubt there will soon be some pups available and I'll post pic's when there are.

As you say Bill.'Pink Ladd' (unreg) is beautiful but unfortunately like most Bill's the flowers are short lived. I have found the plants from that particular crossing though are very cold sensitive here where I live and perhaps you could do better up there where it's warmer, so I'll send you up a pup to try if I have one.

You and your Mum sound a bit like myself, go off the deep end and blow up, and then it's all over and forgotten. The air has been cleared and no grudges are held..

Shirley - That plant of Neo. 'Fury' I got as a pup in a swap and was always a bit doubtful of it being correctly named. I've always thought it looked a more like the middle pic of Neo.'Grey Nurse' on the BCR. rather than the pic on there listed as Neo.'Fury'. Check out the site below and see what you think.
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=4737#4737
Do you have a pic of your Neo.'Fury' you could post?

Your pic's are great as usual even if they were taken late in the afternoon but I still think your Neo.'Nelson' is a great looking plant

That's it for me today, I've raved on for so long my throat is sore. Todays pic's are firstly Pic.1 Neo. 'Grace' U.S.A for Ian to compare with the colour of his Grace and the other four are for Jean. Pic.2 is Ar. recurvata var. benrathii Pic.3 is my front garden bed of Ae recurvata a couple of years ago, Pic.4 is Ae. recurvata 'Rising Sun' (unregistered) and Pic.5 Ae. recurvata 'Blushing Pineapple' (unregistered).

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 12, 2013
7:17 PM

Post #9707914

Just back from Hamilton and its been showery all day so far.
Hubby says it is forecast to be quite hot on the weekend then back to cold & wet again.
It certainly does the plants good, but I think my broms are annoyed at me putting them out when there has been little warmth for them.


Nev I have my aech recurvatas out int the open and they thrive.
I would love to get pups from benrathii, Rising Sun and Blushing Pineapple, if you have spare.
Looking at your pic 3, I would say mine are all the same ... recurvata. This is what mine look like when they flower.
I want to make a bed for them altogether as I do really love how hardy and pretty they are.
I have a nice area along the path in front of my brugmansias where the pots have been living for quite a few years.

Shirley beautiful pics as always. That neo Red Macaw is very nice.

Trish , glad the epis arrived safely. You will have fun watching them grow.
I think I remembered to say keep the cuttings only just damp until roots and some new growth appears.
Lovely to hear your mum is enjoying her broms too.
I hope she is recovered from the fall.
Makes me swear when I nearly tip over too, these days.

Ian, you may have started something now. I am going out to check as I am sure I have neo compacta and I will measure the length of the stolens. From memory I think they are long, so I may have the other one .

Hello everyone else . No pics today but I am going to take pics of compacta and there is another out there similar.

Jean.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 13, 2013
2:28 AM

Post #9708000

Hi Everyone!

Well so much for the rain I thought we were going to get last night nothing happened??? How disappointing for us and all the frogs that tried so hard keeping their excitement up with the chorus of on-going singing they did right up till we went to bed and then I did not hear them anymore because I fell asleep.

Hi Shirley sounds like you did not get much rain either. The weekend went way too quickly but I did get a little bit done around the garden so I was pleased at least I got to spend some time in the garden rather than not at all.

Shirley thanks I am pleased with how all the seedlings are growing as well as all my trays of vrieseas and neos, now were to put them all when they get bigger he he. Thanks Shirley my mum is fine just mad at herself for tripping over and taking bark off her; but the garden will make her forget about it.

Shirley beautiful pics of your broms, I especially liked your Pic 2 of Neo. Nelson, its gorgeous with that fantastic overall colour.

Hi Nev pleased to hear at least you have been getting some rain. On another topic I too have me Ae. Recurvate plant growing in full sun and it really likes it there and is multiplying well.

Nev no worries happy to ask Rob next time we visit him to see if he has Neo. Phyllis youre chasing. And on another topic Nev thank for your offer of a pup of your Bill. Pink Ladd (ungreg) if you happen to find a spare pup. I am also looking forward to seeing pics of your Bill. pups when you get around to splitting them. Nev your pics are great, I especially liked your Pic 1 of Neo. Grace U.S.A., its colour is beautiful.

Nev he he yes its good to have a dummy spit at yourself out loud every now and then, the last one I had was about the bonsai I got as a present for my birthday in September, within 1 week I almost killed it and yelled at myself throughout the week wondering what I was doing wrong, the funny thing was that mum was here visiting at the time and heard me having this dummy spit at about 5 in the morning and asked me who I was yelling at and I replied at myself and at the bonsai and she cracked up laughing at me and told me to stop being silly and made me a cup of tea to settle me down, The air had definetly been cleared that day with a few swear words in there somewhere he he.

Hi Jean sounds like more rain is coming your way. Hopefully you get to spend some time amongst your broms in your lovely garden over the weekend before the wet and cold arrives.

Jean thanks I am so looking forward to potting up the Epis. I went out during my lunch break today and brought supplies and pots so I can get started on potting them up before the weekend. Thanks you had advised me about keeping the cuttings only just damp until roots and new growth appear as I am sure otherwise they would be susceptible to rot.

Jean thanks my mum is fine and has got over being mad at herself he he, we are so alike it is scary.

Everyone a question please about using Richgrow Pinebark Mulch (screened & graded) 40 Litres that I got from Bunnings today that I am thinking about mixing into the current Bromeliad Mix I get and use from Bunnings as I have noticed that some of my vrieseas are finding the current mix I use too damp for their feet and I have lost a couple of my expensive vrieseas to sudden rot this summer, mind you the pups did not have roots when I received them which I think did not help matters at all and I made sure not to plant them too deep to begin with. Anyway I just want to lighten up the mix with the bark and more jumbo perlite etc so just wanted to see what everyone thought of using the above Pinebark mentioned, would it be safe to use or does it strip nutrients and nitrogen from the mix? It is not aged bark or natural bark it just says (apart from above) on the pack that it is for landscaping garden beds and for pots. I am only going to have to alter the mix on some of the harder to grow vrieseas (ones with a lot of white in them) as all my other vrieseas are happy in the current mix I use and are growing and pupping well.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

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ianperry

November 13, 2013
3:08 AM

Post #9708004

Hi all, I don't mean to be rude tonight but I am going off track a bit tonight to talk about nutrients and Ph levels. This is after reading a report from Bromletter 56.6 Nov/Dec 1997 by Peter Huddy.
I will stay with the Macronutrients for a start.
Nitrogen is the basic nutrient of plant life.

Phosphorous is a mineral element needed in large amounts(about equal to Nitrogen) responsible for new growth, root development and seed formation.

Potassium is the nutrient necessary for flower production, also builds resistance to disease and cold.

Magnesium is for formation of plant fibre, a structural component of the chlorophyll molecule.

Confused yet. But there is more as Kim Gyngel used to say in his advertisements.

Young plant These are still forming roots and leaves and require nutrients in large amounts with exception of Potassium. However Potassium should still be provided--refer to flowering plant

Mature plant Vegetative growth slows but the bloom starts to form. The success of the flower depends on the availability of Potassium. Note as Potassium is being absorbed for the bloom the other growth nutrients remain in solution and the mix in the tank may become more acidic than would be preferred.

Flowering plant A good inflorescence is the end goal and results from the proportions of all nutrients being available during each of preceeding stages. Virtually no nutrients are absorbed at this stage, the Potassium required for the flower is stored in the leaves.

After flowering Phosphorous is again absorbed for pup development.


PH requirements for availability of nutrients.

Nitrogen 6.0-8.0

Phosphorous 6.5--7.5 (note that with a Ph below 6.0, plants tend to grow leggy and weak)

Potassium greater than5.4

Magnesium 6.0--8.0

Calcium 6.0--8.0

Sulphur 6.0--8.0

Iron less than 6.1

Trace Elements greater than 5.4


Now that I have this information I ought to use it. I have just seen my spectacular Neo Grace and have no real idea of why it has grown so much better than a lot of others. Could I have applied the right nutrients at the right time. Could the Ph values be just right for this plant here.
I also have Grace USA and Princess grace and neither look as good at the best of times. They are still nice plants though.
I have work to do to check what my potting mix is really like. I have a preferred mix but sometimes I change it. There are some plants that need different moisture levels and either I have to water this plant more often or change my mix to hold a bit more water. I wonder what it's ph is. It could make a difference
I did read the postings and hope to get to respond to them tomorra.
Have a good one all
Ian
Pic 1 Neo Fury
Pic 2 Ae Reverse Ensign
Pic 3 Ae JC Superstar or is it a grex mate Gold Nugget.
Pic 4 Neo Dinkum
Pic 5 Til maybe Hammeri Growing on a coconut

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 13, 2013
12:53 PM

Post #9708371

Hi Everyone - Well the mini cyclones (grandsons) have left for another week and today I can get back to my re-potting. It seems like it will be a nice day, and as I sit here at 5.27am I can hear the little Blue Wrens twittering just outside the window, what a beautiful start to the day.

Jean - I think Ae. Recurvata is one of the best low maintenance and easy to grow brom's there is; its only drawback is that it's a bit spiky when your have the re-pot it.

I'll have a look and see which of the plants you inquired about I have spare, I know for sure I have the Ae. Recurvata var. benrathii but not sure about the other two.

Trish - I love the sound of the wildlife and you must enjoy living near a wetlands area where you can listen to the different frog calls. What sort of frogs do you get up there? The only ones that visit here are a little brown one which doesn't have a very interesting croak at all, more of just a "gulp". They keep laying their eggs in the bird's drinking water so maybe they're trying to tell me the water plant growth is clogging the frog pond.

I always used Rich-grow Pine Bark in my potting mix for a few years and could never understand why after re-potting, my plants just seemed to sit and sulk. The short answer to your question, "does it strip nutrients and nitrogen from the mix?" the answer is YES. A discussion on The Garden Web Forums back in 2010 soon made it clear when it explained that un-aged pine bark is notorious for Nitrogen drawdown and the whole discussion is well worth reading.
See: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/bromeliad/msg0404072332668.html

To open up your mix a bit, why not use charcoal or a few 10mm chuncks of polystyrene instead, they won't rob your mix of Nitrogen as they (like Perlite) are inert substances.

As for your pup rotting, it may have already had rot in it (albeit invisible) when you bought it or it could have started when the particular fungus responsible for causing rot entered the plant when you planted it. If the pup you lost was otherwise healthy when you got it, it's possible the rot started in the base where it was separated from the mother plant and this was the entry point for the rot causing fungus.

With any new pups, (Vieseas included) I always like to leave them a few days for the freshly broken/cut off base to dry and start to form a callus before potting. Just stand them in an empty pot with the base clear of the bottom making sure it remains dry but still keep a bit of water in the centre of the well or give a light mist spray. A practice I used when growing orchids and still use on brom's (and Joe would know this one) is to dust the freshly broken/cut base of the pup with Flowers of Sulphur. It also has many other handy uses.
See: http://www.prlog.org/11821582-what-is-flowers-of-sulphur-sulfur-powder.html

Looking at the pic's of your seedlings is just like a tonic to me, they look great and make me feel so good I sent them to a good home and knowing you will have the thrill of watching them mature. I'll have to send you a few tinier ones next to get you used to handling them at their smaller size.

Ian - Any information about N.P.K. is always interesting, but the fact is, that all of these articles are usually just one grower's opinion. As we know there are as many different potting mixes as there are growers and the same applies to ideas on the "perfect N.P.K."; you only have to look at all the different ratios of the fertilisers in Bunnings for example, enough to make your head spin!

My advice to you is to try and remember what you gave to your Neo. 'Grace' and give that to the other plants as well as the results you achieved with that plant are about as good as you'll get.

Remember what works for Peter Huddy (or indeed any others who write articles) may not work for growers who have different growing conditions and these things can only be taken as a guide as they differ from grower to grower. To give an example, one fertiliser used by a professional grower of brom's I know has an NPK of 11:4.8:18 or the same fertiliser written as an American ratio is 11:11:18 (This will complicate things even more but that's another topic)

I can only speak for what works for me and I've found that the Potassium level needs to be higher than the nitrogen level to maintain good leaf colour and flower production. On the other hand if I want to increase the growth rate, (e.g. Small seedlings) the reverse applies and the Nitrogen should be higher than the Potassium.

An old nurseryman once explained NPK to me this way, "Up down and all around" the N = UP and is responsible for growth above the soil (foliage); P= DOWN and is responsible for growth below the soil (roots) K= ALL AROUND which takes in everything else such as foliage colour, flowers and fruit bearing.

Thanks for the pic's Ian, especially the one of Neo.'Fury'; that proves for sure the one I bought as Fury is definitely something else.

That's it from me today and to finish off, here's a few more recent pic's of some of my plants. Pic.1 is a little carolinae hybrid I've had for years, Pic.2 is Vr. 'Kent's Sunset' (was previously just called Vr. 'Sunset' but changed to separate from others called Sunset). Pic.3 is an interesting Neo. called 'Crimson Glow' (Red Fleck) and which I was told was a sport from the Grace Goode hybrid 'Crimson Glow'. The interesting thing about this plant is that when viewed from below with the light behind it, it has these almost iridescent red flecks glowing in the leaves. Pic.4 Vr.'Inflata' a good grower and flower producer (this one has 6 spikes with the rear left one concealed by foliage.) Pic.5 is a Neo. NOID given to me by a friend with the only info on the name tag being "Definitely not for sale" but I do know he bought a batch of the 'Aussie Dream' grex not long after they were released and I suspect this may have been one of them.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 13, 2013
4:11 PM

Post #9708498

Hello everyone.
Its wet and cold again and I am horrified to hear myself say, I am getting used to it...lol
Hubby says a fine and warm weekend then more cold.
The plants are loving the rain, but I fear my broms are getting very tired of being wet all the time.

Ian, very interesting about the pine bark. I checked into using that type of pine mulch when I was looking for something good to pot my orchids in.
I found that , as Nev said, it will leech out all the goodness . It rots down very quickly and is not a good additive to potting mixes. I used to buy composted bark, but that disappeared from the shops.
I just use the orchid mix from Mitre10 now as its all I can get and seems to do the job for both the orchids and the broms. I have sometimes been able to get an orchid mix from Bunnings which was just all bark I mixed it with the Mitre10 stuff and it worked well, but that also seems to have disappeared from the shelves.

I have used perlite and also lumps of polystyrene in mixes over the years.

I alternate my fertilisers , using MiracleGro and Tomato fert. for all my brugmansias.
I use a very weak solution of this on the broms alternating with a molasses/ seasol mix .
I use a foliar spray on all the plants during the warm weather.
For blooming times I use orchid bloom booster.

Seems to work for me down here, but again , as Nev stated, what can work in one place may not work somewhere else.

I am learning so much from everyone on here, so I hope you dont mind my input on what I use.

Getting back to the talk about neo compacta...
I took a pic of my compacta ??
The dead mother on the side, still has another pup attached out of sight, I must remove it and the dead mother.
I did take a couple of pups from her a few months ago. They are at present starting to go up the trellis down the back.
I measured the stolons and they are from 5"- 7" long.
looks like my plant is neo eltoniana
My neo macwilliamsii looks just like yours Ian. Just starting to color but you can see the spots on the underside of the leaves now.

Back again. I was outside unpacking some new broms.
I cant help myself, I just see something needing a home and going cheap, I have to buy it.
Just received a lovely burgundy neo , a burgundy aechmea and two very nice spotted bills. All noids, but I love them.

Now that I have spent all that time admiring broms , I had better think about lunch or hubby will think I feed the plants more than him...lol

Happy day everyone.

pic 1...my neo compacta ??? eltoniana

pic 2...neo macwilliamsii...you can see the start of the coloring with the spots

pic 3... the larger macwilliamsii, also starting to color.

pic 4 ...guz Scarlet Lady looking beautiful.

Jean.




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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 14, 2013
5:36 AM

Post #9708775

Hello everyone,

Well, weve certainly had some rain since my last post. We have had a number of storms with heavy rain and the grass has already started to green up and the shrubs in the garden are looking much less stressed. Some have already lost their leaves, others were just wilting, but theyll all recover quickly now.

We have used up our internet allowance and its very slow and frustrating, not sure if Ill be able to add photos. I will attempt to add a photo of my neo Fury which I took today for Nev, dont think Ill have the patience to do more than one.

Hi to everyone, catch up in a day or two.

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 14, 2013
11:42 AM

Post #9708973

Where's everyone gone? Looks like just the three of us today.

We had a beautiful sunny day here yesterday and I spent most of the day sorting plants and making some modifications to the bench where I keep my excess Bill's that I can't hang up. I would hang them all if I had sufficient space as I'm convinced that's the best way to grow them for the best colour; however the ones I can't hang have to go on a bench, and being top heavy and only in 4" pots, toppling over is a big problem. Hopefully I've come up with a solution to prevent this. (Pic's when it's finished and if it works).

Jean - I'm having the same problem as you trying to obtain good quality aged bark. I was using the Brunnings (Not Bunnings) Orchid Potting Mix which was recommended to me by Jack Koning (see the first link I posted yesterday). I found this a very good product and I got good results from it, however I'm now having trouble obtaining it. I've been told by the staff at Bunnings they don't stock it any more due to a "deal" done between Masters and Brunnings. Nor can I get it at Big W, K-Mart or Mitre 10 stores down here (even though according to Brunnings, they still stock it).

It seems Masters wants the monopoly on this product which is fine if there was a Masters store near here, but that's 2 years away yet. So just out of interest, would any of you good people who have a Masters store in your area, please check to see if they are selling this product (See Pic.1). There are other bark based orchid mixes available, but they all have fertilisers added, and the problem there is that they don't stipulate on the bag what the NPK of that fertiliser is.

Jean, you say, "I hope you don't mind my input on what I use"; on the contrary, and I think I can speak for everyone when I say, "we welcome it", as information from all growers is always welcome and what's more, shared information is what makes forums such a good source for information gathering.As for the "compacta topic", I've checked all of my plants and especially after looking at the pic's that have been posted, have come to the conclusion that I don't have any Neo. macwilliamsii. I'll take few pic's and post them when my current project is finished.

That Guz 'Scarlet Lady' looks familiar, is that one I sent you as a pup? If so you will find it's a good grower and pupper.

Shirley - I know just how you feel when the internet allowance is almost used up and everything slows down. When we signed up for the plan we're on, we were told "unlimited access"; what they failed to say was although the access was unlimited, the access to the fast speed was limited, so technically they weren't telling lies as we've always had access. When my son was here from Bali last year his return trip was delayed by a couple of weeks and he was running his business for here and using our computer which I said was OK as we had unlimited access. It wasn't until a week later when the computer slowed down, I found this wasn't true, so when signing to a new agreement, always check the fine print.

Thanks for the pic. Of your Neo. 'Fury' and between the pic's you and Ian have posted I'm
convinced that the plant I have definitely isn't fury...Duped once again by dishonest sellers, oh well we live and learn.

Pic's today are Pic.1, the Brunnings Orchid Potting Mix I spoke about. Pic.2 Bill. 'Bobtail Gem', Pic.3 Bill. Leptopoda x 'Medowie Gift', Pic.4 Bill. 'Medowie Gift' x Self, Pic.5 Bill. 'Pink Patches' which unfortunately was growing in a very overcrowded area hence the lanky spreading leaves where it was reaching out for more light.

All the best, Nev
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia

November 14, 2013
12:25 PM

Post #9708998

OMG, JUst typed big reply, added photos and woosh! The whole site closed down on me! Really sorry guys, but I cannot waste my time with this website. I'm sure you can understand my frustration? Its not that i dont want to converse with you all, but really? An hour and a half I'vebeen on here this morning.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 14, 2013
7:28 PM

Post #9709245

Ive never had any problems with this site. weird!
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 14, 2013
10:06 PM

Post #9709309

Have you been drinking that Taranaki Tiger Juice again Sue?

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 14, 2013
10:28 PM

Post #9709311

Hi all,

Nev, I too have had trouble getting the Brunnings Cymbidium Orchid mix. I used to buy it at Bunnings, then was told they wouldnt stock it because it was available at Masters. I then switched to Big W and bought it there for at least 12 months in a 30 litre bag for $7.92. They presently have the Dendrobium Orchid mix but not the cymbidium mix, which they havent had for at least a month, they normally stock both types.

I spoke to someone there on Wednesday who was adamant they only ever stocked the dendrobium mix and had never had any other. Despite my insisting I had been buying it there for at least a year, this tool kept telling me they have never had it. I was so p*ssed off I had to leave the store.

I tried two other Big W stores and two local Masters outlets but no-one had it in stock.

This afternoon I rang Brunnings who said they do NOT supply Masters with their Orchid Mix but are still supplying Big W distribution centres in Qld and NSW and its up to the individual stores to order it in. The lady I spoke to at Brunnings said it was also available from Stratco in a 25 litre bag.

Masters have one called Debco Orchid mix which is similar to Brunnings, maybe even better, in a 25 litre bag for $8.95 or thereabouts so I will use that but it doesnt help you Nev, if you dont have a local Masters outlet have you tried your local nurseries?

Sue, come on give DG another go. Type your post in Word then copy and paste to DG, saves a lot of time and frustration.

Bree, at the moment I am having problems accessing DG and every other web site as weve used up our internet allocation and its super slow and sooo frustrating.

We had a storm this afternoon, a little bit of hail and a bit of rain. If we get any more rolling in we wont be doing the dog obedience class tonight, still a couple of hours to go, well see how its looking later.

Hi to Jean, hope your weather is being nice and you get your fine weekend.

No pics today, bye for now, Shirley


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dalfyre
Christchurch
New Zealand

November 14, 2013
10:39 PM

Post #9709312

Poor Sue! how frustrating - for you & us...
I always look forward to your posts :)

Shirley - hope you don't miss your class tonight, regular dog training is such a big help to me with the wicked weasel.

I suppose a quick mention of dogs is ok here... after all everyone else keeps talking about their pups ;)

and some of those pups have ferocious teeth too ...
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 15, 2013
11:37 AM

Post #9709652

Well the rain has come, storms and heavy rain all night and still raining. I opened my old ute doors yesterday to let the sun and warm air dry everything from the water that leaked in during the last rain and now I'm wondering whether or nor I closed them ?????????
I'm afraid I got too engrossed in my new bench project yesterday and wanted to get that finished before the forecast rain came again and just forgot about everything else. Never mind, it'll dry out in time, if not I'll just drill a few holes in the floor.

I'm pleased with my forward planning; now that the rain has returned I can once again get stuck into the second batch of Bill's that have to be cleaned up and re-potted. They're all patiently sitting in the garage waiting.

Breeindy - Sorry I didn't notice you had posted after Sue's last post; anyway it's good to see you're still around and do drop in from time to time.

Sue - That same thing was happening to me on a regular basis, (posts just going "pfff"and disappearing) It was more of a pain for me as I don't have any typing skills and it sometimes takes me an hour or more to write my posts. That's when I started to do them all in MS Word first and then cut and paste. No more major problems, although they have still vanished a few times, it's a very simple matter to cut and paste it again. It's a very annoying gremlin that DG should sort out, although I suppose, (understandably) these free sites don't get the service that the paid forums do.

Shirley - I sent an Email to Brunnings inquiring about the outlets for this particular potting mix and was told that Mitre 10, BigW and K-Mart were all stockists in this area. I tried a couple of local Mitre 10 stores from their list of stockists and they didn't know what I was talking about. When I asked if they could order some in, I was told they had to take what they got as it was all ordered from some central point away from their store. I didn't even bother with the Big W or the K-Mart as they are both located in the centre of large shopping complexes and I just can't walk that far.

There might be more to this than what we are being told, as last time I spoke to a Brunnings rep. he was very quick to tell me about their new product (see pic 1) that was much better than the potting mix I was after. It was a compressed coir block and apparently they were getting good feedback from orchid growers who were using it. In fact he sent me 6 small complimentary packs to try with the brom's and I must say they did seem to grow in it OK. However I don't like putting all my eggs in one basket and have been mixing the Brunnings potting mix with coir chunks 50/50 for a while now and having an each way bet and the plants seem to love it. The other advantage with this product is that it is more convenient to store than the bags of potting mix. Could it be that Brunnings are phasing the bark product out of their range?

I think someone (maybe Breeindy) mentioned the Debco potting mix on here before and from memory they said it was in a pink bag but our local Bunnings don't stock that either. They do have an orchid potting mix (I forget the brand) but just feeling it through the bag it appears to be too fine as I couldn't feel any bits of bark. As for making an enquiry at our local Bunnings; I know I'm a "cranky old man" but I do object to a "snotty nosed, pimply faced kid" telling me how I should be growing my "bromiloids" (as he called them) and what I should be growing them in when he obviously didn't even know what I was talking about.!

By the way Shirley, my wife came home from shopping yesterday bearing packs of those wooden skewers you told me about so thanks again for the info; we finally tracked them down once we knew where to look.

Theresa - I think from memory that dogs seem to get mentioned on this site quite often. I have noticed over many years that people who grow brom's or orchids almost without exception own a dog; why is this?

Hi to all of you who aren't posting at present for various reasons and i hope it isn't due to illness and if it is, get well soon.

Time to go again and the pic's today are Pic.1 The pic of the Brunnings Orchid Potting Mix Coir Block I spoke of earlier. Pic.2 is a nice big pup from Neo. correia-araujoi, Pic.3 is a Bill. NOID I came across while re-potting the other day. Pic.4 was a nice surprise I found among the weeds when cleaning up a brom. garden the other day; the name on the tag says Neo.'Enchantment' but the markings are reversed to the other 'Enchantment' plants I have which are albo-marginated.. Anyone know about this one? Finally Pic.5 which is a great example of Vr. platynema variegata. It's not my plant unfortunately but I was given some seed from a selfing of it, but at this stage there is no evidence of that amazing colour in the seedlings.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 15, 2013
12:58 PM

Post #9709720

Hello eevryone. I'm still here, but we have had to be running around for hubbys doctors appointments.
He is to see another specialist next week and will have to have an op soon.

I am afraid I have neglected all my babies for a few days. I will have to go down later and talk to them all.

I have to buy more orchid mix next week and as we only have the one place here to buy it I am always stuck with what they sell unless we have a trip to Mt Gambier.
I have been using the same one for years so it cant be too bad.
I prefer a coarser mix for the broms , but one uses what is available and they all seem to do well with what I am using.
We may get to Warrnambool during the week so I will see what stores are there.
I have used the Brunnings one, but as some of you have found, it is not available in Bunnings now.
I , too, had some young person tell me they had never had it, but I bought it quite a few times and know what it was.
I saw none at Masters in Mt Gambier.
The lady there didnt even know what a bromeliad was.

Nev, I hope you had shut the doors on your old ute.
I like your solution of just drilling a few holes to let any water out...lol
I would be pleased to give a good home to any bills you have too many of.
I am happy to pay for them as I dont have much to exchange yet. .

Does anyone have any spare pups from any tillandsias at all or a bunch of old mans beard ?
I only have one till which loves it in the greenhouse. I would like to make a small trellis wall for tills in the greenhouse. I cant hang them form the roof or attach to the plastic sides. There is a nice space where I can add a piece of trellis which will get lots of light and should suit tills. The old mans beard should help with humidity and also looks nice among the broms.

I had better move myself as there are still a few things I have to get done before next week.
I may be missing for a few days later in the week but will try to get some new pics.

Hello to everyone and I hope all are well and enjoying some sun.
Jean.


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ianperry

November 16, 2013
2:47 AM

Post #9710089

Hi all, we had a bit of rain this afternoon. Saved me watering just for today. I potted up a few pups and did some deleafing and dead leafing and not much else. It seems to quiet here again but that is how it goes. Each to their own.
When I go shopping I expect customer service not machine service, I know it saves the businesses money, but it costs workers jobs. Workers with no jobs have no money to spend, so they cannot buy from these businesses anyway. Just my rant.I don't intend going back to Masters as they have Machine checkouts.
The Potting mix that I use is Searles potting mix 65 litres Brunnings pine bark 30 litres and about 20 litres of sand. The PH value for me is 7.0. It works for me. This is for most of my Ae and Neos. I add cocopeat for my Crypthansus to hold more water. I have not as yet checked it's PH balance. I used to use Brunnings Orchid mix and Brunnings Pine bark 50/50 . Fresh Pine bark is very acidic, so I age it before use.To do this I mix a good handful of Rooster Booster and a couple of tablespoonful on Dolomite lime. I mix it through and wet it down well and store in a compost bin for about a month. Then the bark has used the nitrogen out of the rooster booster and the dolomite has reduced the acidity. It is a bit of trial and error.
Nice Pics all.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Neo Pink MarbleThroat
Pic 2 Neo White Marble Throat.
Pic 3 Ae Nudicaulis Tigerina
Pic 4 Bil Theodore Mead
Pic 5 Neo Chlorastricta X Marble Throat

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 16, 2013
4:21 AM

Post #9710096

Hi Everyone!

Started typing below on 15/11/13 but never got around to sending it as we got caught up with work matters we had to get out the road so our weekend was not a total right-off:

Wow Im glad the weeks over as it was crazy busy and I am totally exhausted. We got the grocery shopping out the road Friday but only after getting home later than usual from work, but at least we dont have to do this on the weekend now which frees up a bit of time for us.

Thanks for everyones feedback regarding my query about using mulched pine bark in my brom mix. I will only be using it in the garden now as the last think I want to do is introduce unnecessary acid into my brom mix so I will try lightening up my current mix with more chunky charcoal pieces and Styrofoam pieces like Nev suggested.

Hi Ian from your post 13/11 your Pic 3 looks like Ae. JC Superstar to me, what did everyone else think?

Hi Nev the frogs we get here that I think I know the names of are the Green Tree Frog, Eastern Dwarf Tree Frog (these are everywhere), Stoney Creek Frog, Burrowing Frog and Broad-palmed Frog, oh and the dreaded Cane Toad that I refuse to call a Frog. But out of all of them we mainly see a lot of Green Tree and Eastern Dwarf Tree Frogs. Nev yes we really like living near the wetlands area and the amount of wildlife we get to see and hear every day is amazing and it truly relaxes us to be able to kick back after a hard days work and just relax and enjoy something that costs us nothing and it beats sitting in front of the TV. Its a place we always go to escape to and we always laugh because we can see that the frogs prefer living in my bromeliads more than they do the wetlands, I suppose that is because they get to adopt their own brom as a home as well as when the wetlands are dry they have a continual supply of water and food from the broms and in our garden to keep them going. Nev I wonder what the little brown frogs that visit your garden that gulp instead of croak are called, would you happen to know its name?

Nev thanks for the feedback on Pine Bark, I found what you had to say very interesting and it really helped me to understand and decide to stay clear of it as an additional medium to use in the current bromeliad mix I use. I did happen to read the Garden Web Forum discussion from back in 2010 earlier on in the week as I was really trying to get my head around which way to go so was pleased that you showed me the same link as the feedback from everyone back then to you was very informative and an enjoyable read. I often refer back to the Garden Web Forum and think I have pretty much read and looked at all the pictures since I started collecting bromeliads. I will have to go to Mitre 10 and see if they sell Good Quality - Aged Bark that you and Jean speak highly about apart from it being hard to find for sale anywhere, what a bugger.
Nev thanks for explaining rot to me in bromeliads, the ones that I have lost to rot have mainly been vriesea pups that have come in the mail recently cut off mother with no visible signs of roots. My normal routine after receiving them is to sit them in an empty pot for a couple of days with only water in the centre so the cut has time to dry/heal and I give the cut a spray with Mancozeb fungicide. Nev thanks I read the link you provided about Flower of Sulphur and it reminded me that I have read this article before as you provided it to us on this forum some time ago but I had totally forgot to get some to use so the next time we are in Bunnings I will get some as it sounds like a fantastic product that is very safe to use not just on broms and orchids but on so many other things. Joe has never used it before as he mainly uses like me the Mancozeb fungicide on his orchids but is also going to give the Flower of Sulphur a try given that it can be dusted on a cut rather than sprayed on like we do with Mancozeb fungicide which kind of defeats the purpose when I am trying to dry an area where a pup has been cut off and then spraying it with Mancozeb mixed in water.

Nev I am so pleased you are happy with the way the seedlings you sent me are growing. I am really enjoying the whole experience and cant thank you enough for going to all that trouble and taking the time to mentor me through the different stages of growing broms. I am thrilled to bits with them and cant thank you enough for sharing them with me. I have tried a bit of everything now except for hybridising, but one day I know I could see myself giving this a go but for now I want to look after what I have properly as it deserves and because I am still in the early stages of learning I dont want to try to do too much too quick as I have to remember that I work a full-time job plus we have a business to run so this does not leave us with too much spare time except for the weekends which we have to manage right to look after our broms and orchids.

Nev that NOID in Pic 5 from your post on 13/11 is an absolute stunner!!! Definitely has the Neo. Aussie Dream look about it. Nev thats also a great lot of Bills you posted pics of on 14/11.

16/11/13 (today):

Hi Jean thanks for sharing your fertilising tips on what you use on your broms. I use a bit of everything that I alternate throughout the year such as Seasol (foliar feed over summer/winter), Slow Release Fertiliser (when potting up all new pups), Pot Ash sprinkled around base of plant and watered in (I use this on everything!!!), Fish Emulsion and Orchid Bloom Booster and African Violet Food. Oh and once every couple of months I try to spray my Vrieseas with a fungicide treatment such as Mancozeb as I find these to be more susceptible to fungal attack because their leaves are far more delicate.

Jean that Pic 4 from your post on 13/11 of Guz. Scarlet Lady flowering is so pretty. Jean I will have to see if I have some spare Grand Fathers Beard I can send you and let you know.

Hi Shirley pleased to hear your getting some much needed rain, even with the little bit that we had it gave the garden / lawn time to nearly fully recover which makes it easy for me now as I just need to keep it that way so normally I wake up early and just give the areas that were suffering an added spritz in the mornings and evenings just to help them along a bit.

Hi Sue we miss you come back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The dummy spit you had the other day (he he) sounds similar to the dummy spit I had with my Bonsi I spoke about the other day that I nearly killed I got so mad at it but really I was mad at myself LOL. Its just a matter of finding a better way to do things and I learnt the hard way with DG when I first joined this forum, as I am sure you would remember, where I kept loosing what I had typed but now the first thing I do is type in my Word doc and copy and paste into DG when I am finished like you all taught me. Anyway Sue please come back and talk to us sometime as it is really sad not hearing from you anymore and you always had a knack of making me laugh when I read your posts as well as I really liked reading what you had been getting up to in the garden and amongst your beautiful broms (sad face).

Nev pleased to hear you got some good rain. Nev on another topic that Brunnings Potting Mix Coir Block mixed with Coir Chunks 50/50 sounds great, I will have to give that a trial also and let you know how I go.

Hi Ian great to hear you also got some rain, it makes such a difference around the garden doesnt it. Ian I too HATE machine checkouts and if anyone tries to get me to use one I tell them to bugger off as it does take workers jobs and we end up been the worker not getting paid to scan our own shopping and putting it in bags after a hard days work, how ridiculous.

Ian thanks for sharing what mix you use for your broms, its been so great reading what everyone else uses and has really had me thinking these past couple of days on what I am going to do about some of the vrieseas I have been struggling with, but there are other contributing factors that now clearly come into play as Nev explained to me so I have learnt a great deal this past week thanks to everyone and I have so many things I can trial now. What great brom pics too with nice colouring in your Neo. Pink Marble Throat.

We got a bit done around the garden today, mowed the lawn, racked leaves, watered the broms, orchids and the lawn, split and potted up pups and re-potted some of my vrieseas in a lighter mix using broken bits of Styrofoam and a little more Charcoal and Jumbo Perlite mixed through the current Bromeliad mix I use. Nev I think they will do far better in this mix so will see how they go. Jean I also potted up all the beautiful Epis you sent me so I cant wait to see how they go and look forward to posting pics of their progress.

Anyway time to head as this threads getting a bit long winded he he.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 to 3 - Wildlife (mum & bub) in Wetlands behind our place having a bit of a rest.
Pic 4 & 5 - Old Pics of one of the garden beds.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 16, 2013
1:10 PM

Post #9710414

Hi everyone - Well our weather seems to have taken a bit of a turn and the rain's stopped, and before anyone tells me, I know I'm "off topic".

I know we need the rain but I hope it can stay away just for today as this is the big day for "Camp Quality" where the i98FMs Camp Quality Convoy raises money for kids with cancer. It starts at West Cliff Colliery on Appin Rd at 8am and drives down down Mt Ousley through Warrawong and past Stockland Shellharbour, then onto Croome Road, Albion Park Rail. It's a fantastic idea which is now in its 9th year and growing very year. This year there is even a truck from Toowoomba and another from Western Australia taking part where last years event saw 764 trucks and 926 motorbikes take part in the Convoy with a total of $1,034,921.54 raised on the day and this year is shaping up to raise more. The i98FM Camp Quality Convoy lead truck auction raised $758,620.80 even before the Convoy starts today. What started as a simple idea during a chat on a radio broadcast nine years ago has lead to this fabulous money raiser. Read all about it at:
http://www.i98.com.au/i98fm/index.php/stuff-to-do/i98fms-camp-quality-convoy-2013/

Jean - Don't worry about "neglecting your babies", they are very forgiving plants and will still be growing after hubby has had his op and is back on deck again.

We all have our own special potting mix and as someone once said, there are as many different mixes as there are growers and this is probably true as we all have our favourite ingredients (hence my search for Brunnings Orchid Potting Mix).

The thing is though, when we look at the whole picture, bromeliads will grow in any mix as long as it is open enough not to become waterlogged. I've tried them in broken bricks, gravel, polystyrene, Skoria, Coco Peat mulch, various barks and wood chips on their own or in combinations of any of those ingredients as well as off the shelf normal open textured potting mixes made primarily for other plants. In fact they will even grow stuck in a terracotta pot with with no mix.

We need to remember that the brom's we commonly grow are for the most part epiphytes and as such don't require a pot, they just need something to attach to such as a tree or similar, and we grow them in pots simply for our own convenience. Having said all that; although they will grow reasonably well under the conditions mentioned above, if they are given a good potting mix and a little extra care, they will grow even better; and that's what we strive for, to grow our plants better than the other growers. I guess the bottom line is, we have to do the best we can with the ingredients we can get.

What would us men do without our wives? To put you in the picture of the saga of my old ute open to the pouring rain early yesterday morning; when I went out to get the paper the doors were already shut - my wife had shut them the afternoon before so it all ended well after all.

Jean I'm sure I can find you some "Old Man's Beard" and I'll use some for packing next time I send you some pups, so don't go buying any.

Ian - What you have written echos my thoughts exactly. When I went to our local Bunnings the other day I was horrified to see they have taken out four normal checkouts and replaced them with four "self serve ones". Can you imagine what will happen when people are halfway through these checkouts and one item doesn't have a bar code (which often happens at our Bunnings). I know one bloke won't be using them; I don't use them at Woolies and I wont use them there either because as you say, they are doing someone out of a job... Soon the world will be run by bloody robots.
Beat Ya! ... My second soapbox presentation for the day.

All good info about how you prepare your bark Ian, it's all along similar lines to info that came out of a thread about potting mixes on one of the forums a while back. Even on one of the threads on here, there was a chap who posted for a short time (sorry I forget his name but Sue knows him) he said that he treated his bark by putting it in a wheelbarrow and filled it up with a mix of water and Condy's Crystals (The same strength as you spray on your plants) and left it for a while before he used it.

I've never seen the Searles potting mix 65 litres or the Brunnings pine bark 30 litres anyway down here. It seems that these stores in different areas all stock different types of potting mixes and barks, and that supports what I was saying earlier, we just have to make do with what we can get.

They're interesting pic's you've posted this morning Ian. As marble throated plants are among my favourites I am especially attracted to your pink Marble Throat. I have one called 'Marble Pink' but it doesn't have anywhere near the colour of your's, it's a nice plant and if you could please put my name down for a pup when you get one spare I would appreciate it. I guess you could say that the plant in your next pic (Marble Throat) is where all of the marble throated plants started, as it has been used extensively as a parent. Although I've never seen it crossed with Neo. Chlorosticta (your pic 5), it does have 34 registered hybrids on the BCR; so certainly worth a look, so go to: http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?fields=Parents&id=5104&search=marble

You also share with us a nice example of another of the many different Ae nudicaulis varieties. It's a nice looking plant with a great lot of well stacked leaves. C'mon Ian, what's the secret?

The other thing that supports what I have found is that's such a nice looking Bill you've grown in a pot which seems far too small for the size of the plant. I have found that rather than putting them in a pot that appears to suit the pot/plant ratio size, they will grow far better when "under potted" (using a pot that appears much too small). Although they are "top heavy" and are very difficult to put on a bench without toppling over (they are better hung up), my Bill's have improved out of sight since I adopted this method of potting. This once again gets back to the fact that these plants are epiphytes and enjoy the good air circulation around the roots.

Trish - Great to see a nice long post from you after all of the hassles at work.

I have no idea what the name of the little frog in my yard is as I've only ever got a fleeting glance at them and not long enough to take in any distinguishing features by which to identify them. All I know is they are very shy and just make a sound which I describe as a "gulp" and not a croak. You say that your frogs adopt a brom as a home so they have access to water in dry times but they also give the brom something in return, their droppings; this all mixes with the water in the brom's cup and acts like a dilute fertiliser, another case of Mother Nature weaving her magic.

Trish I mentioned the Flowers of Sulphur only because I know it works and is very tried an tested as it's been around long before some of the newer fungicides such as Mancozeb, and as you point out it seems more practical to apply to something you're trying to dry out rather than treating the plant with a "wet" fungicide.

That plant you commented on in my Pic.5 on 13/11 is a beautifully coloured plant; not much in the shape department but colour-wise it's a standout. The pic doesn't really do it justice as the colour of the shade cloth detracts from its real colour and if I remember it next time I have my camera out and it isn't raining, I'll take another pic under different conditions.

Just a little correction when you said about "Brunnings Potting Mix Coir Block mixed with Coir Chunks 50/50 sounds great"...what I said was "mixing the Brunnings potting mix with coir chunks 50/50" ...I should have made it clearer I guess, what I meant was mixing the Brunnings Orchid Potting mix with coir chunks 50/50"; I should have stipulated Orchid Potting Mix not just potting mix.

What a great lot of pic's you've posted today; Mother Nature at her best on the outside of your back fence and a kaleidoscope of colour on the inside. It doesn't get much better than that. Can you please tell me the names of the two Neo's at the left rear of your last pic?

That's all from me and today's pic's are once again a mixture of old and new as it's been raining and I haven't taken any more new ones. Pic.1 is an old file pic of an overhead shot of Vr. Evita, Pic.2 is Ae. 'Royal Wine' x miniata discolour, Pic.3 is why you should always keep a careful watch on any plants you have suspended from the shade house roof. Pic.4 is Ae. recurvata 'Rising Sun' (Unreg) and Pic.5 is a young Neo.'Camelot'.

All the best, Nev.

Bugger - It seems like DG won't let me attach the pic's after all.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 16, 2013
1:15 PM

Post #9710421

Gooday again - Here we go for a second try for the pic's described in the previous post:

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 16, 2013
5:10 PM

Post #9710548

Hi Everyone!

Hi Nev hope the rain stays away for the i98FMs Camp Quality Convoy fund raiser, what a fantastic amount of money they have already raised, thats fantastic and just think how much more they will have risen by the end of the day.

Sounds like Ailsa is looking after you well making sure the car doors are shut on your Ute, how thoughtful of her to notice and shut them and its great that you in turn noticed that she had. Its great to have each others back like that as sometimes we just get that busy its hard to remember to do everything and easy to get side tracked.

Nev thats interesting what you said about the chap that treats his bark by putting it in a wheelbarrow and filled it up with a mix of water and Condys Crystals (the same strength you spray on your plants) and left it for a while before he used it. Have you ever tried this Nev?

I felt bad that I did not get a chance to post my usual thread the other day but Friday turned out to be a very hectic day right into the evening and I went to bed with a stress headache and ended up having to get up and sleep on the Lazy Boy because my head was pounding that hard, that hard in fact that some of my teeth were hurting like you get when you have a tooth ache and I had blood shot eyes so I think my blood pressure may have been up a bit. When I woke up in the middle of the night to get a glass of water I looked over at the couch beside me and saw Joe also sleeping there with our two dogs so he must have been worried about how I was feeling to have ended up sleeping on the couch and when I asked him why he had not stayed in bed where he would have been more comfortable he said he just wanted to be there in case I needed anything which was very sweet of him, god bless his darling heart.

Nev the two Neos you asked about top left of Pic 5 are (from left to right) Neo. Paula and Neo. Cliff Siverd. The pup of Cliff Siverd I sent you actually came from this plant, it produced 3 x lovely pups, two I removed but I still have one attached to the mom that I also want to keep as I really adore the size and colour of this brom. Neo. Paula has also produced some nice big pups that I have potted up and am thrilled about as I really like the statement both these big plants make in the garden and all that wonderful colour.

Nev your Pic 1 of Vr. Evita in flower looks exactly like the flower on my Vr. NOID I got for my Birthday so I think I am going to label it with this name. Thanks for providing such a great photo for comparison as it made it really easy for me to look at properly and compare with mine that is still in flower.

Today was spent fertilising my tray Neo and Vriesea seedlings and I did some more splitting and potting up of pups, other than that I am taking it pretty easy as its very hot out there and I am lacking the usual burst of energy I usually have on weekends, I think my body is just telling me to rest up some so I am listening. Joe has also brought me the new addition of Bromeliads for the Contemporary Garden (fully revised edition) by Andrew Steens so I am looking forward to kicking back with a cup of tea and having a read and looking at all those beautiful brom pictures and then later on this arvo when it cools I might just go and sit outside and hose the broms.

I noticed today that one of my Neo. 'De Rolph' broms has pupped for the first time for me which is great.

Sending this thread early today as I probably will not get around to talking with you all later, hope everyone is having a great weekend.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 - Close up (for Nev) of Neo. 'Paula' and Neo. 'Cliff Siverd' (top left to right).
All these pics are of when I first started this garden bed back in 2012.


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ianperry

November 17, 2013
3:14 AM

Post #9710745

Hi all, well I got side tracked again today, I cleaned up the gravel in the old dogpen bush house and rearranged the plants in there. Then I cleaned out the front bush house so the dogs have somewhere to live without knocking my plants over. Then I sat around and read some more of a book. Then it started to sprinkle. The sprinkle has been on and off since about 2.00pm today. Nothing that I would call heavy and that is just how I like it at the moment.
Looks like your lucky day Nev. 1 pink marble throat with your name on it. I sent you a D-mail anyway. That Bil is a nice top heavy plant. I am looking for hangers with a much longer drop, say 600mm instead of the standard 300mm. NO suppliers are interested as yet unless one goes for wire or chain and that becomes very expensive. Sometimes I tie the pots to the back of the bench and also put a loose tie around the plant to stop them from falling over. The reason that Bunnings don't have the same size packs of mixes as other stores in a locale is just so that they have a unique product, so they can justify the sales pitch, "we'll beat any other price on an identical product" Identical being the key word. Usually I buy 70 litre bags of bark.
I wonder if it was Mike that used Condys chrystals with his mix in a wheelbarrow.
Jean I will have to have a looksee about my tills, maybe I'll have some.
That will do me for tonight.
Ian
Pic 1 Crypt Black Magic
Pic 2 C Black Mystic
Pic 3 C Shimmer
Pic 4 C Dr Larry
Pic 5 C Gold dust

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perke_patch

November 17, 2013
5:00 AM

Post #9710771

hi everyone. hey guess what? our tanks are full and just starting to run slowly over the top.

sorry I haven't posted for a while. After my first week of exercising I have been having early nights in bed so just checked emails and all the posts on fb to see if anything I needed to address. then checked all the games to get the daily login rewards and shut down to hit that pillow. Also the shoulders were a bit sunburned from being in the pool in the sun. one night I had a splitting head probably from the sun. I now have a rashie top and a good hat for shade. no more sunburn. also the walk home is along a road with shady trees and early enough that it is not too hot. I have my nice big shady hat and bottle of water so all good. I'm enjoying the walk more I think than the pool.
Johnny is not doing too well at the moment and spending more time upstairs. of course he won't sit upstairs doing nothing if I am not doing nothing with him. sometimes I can sneak back downstairs and do what I want to do. of course with aqua then walking home I don't get to start in the garden till after 10am. as soon as I get home it is time for a morning cuppa so it's more like 11 before I get into the plants.
Nev with the problem of billbergias being top heavy and falling over, when we were up at Russel Holzheimers he has a wire mesh as the top of his shelves that fit the 4 inch seedling pots perfectly in the hole of the mesh. so his seedlings were all in pots lowered down into the mesh which held them upright. I'll check my pics to see if I have a folder of ones taken at his place. I did get some of his billbergia seedlings on that trip too. will have to check which ones and how they are doing.
Nev I love all those billbergias you have posted so far especially the bobtail and 2 with Medowie gift and the colour in that NOID bill was very nice too. Shirley if you want more bills the Tropical Foiliage Festival is on at the Cleveland Showgrounds hall in Smith street in Cleveland this weekend. Catlan's should be there and will probably have some of their billbergia seedlings there for sale. there should also be lots of others from other growers too.
After our busy weekend I am ready for bed again now. So I'll post pics another night after I've uploaded them.
Oh and Nev we have a lot of clumps of mcwilliamsii growing up in our trees so I can add apup to your next box. I'm getting a nice tray of pots with pups ready to come off for your parcel. as soon as I find a Mexicana of a size to fit in a box I'll post the parcel. so far we've found really big ones probably ready to flower but still looking for one with a reasonable pup still on mother. I have a list with ticks on so should get them all ready soon. I'll let you know when it's ready to go.

We've been away for the weekend at Hervey Bay to see our son and his family. OMG Paul's yard is looking so nice. he is lucky enough to live in a house with 1.5 acres of yard. he has reclaimed most of the overgrown bush and created lots of garden space for his broms. This time he has moved everything out of the gardens and when putting them back he has grouped all the same plants together so you get to see a plant in all stages of growth from young freshly potted pup to mature flowering version. Wish we could do that here. he also has lots of light and sunshine on his broms so the colour is amazing. I took some pics but haven't uploaded them yet.
Trish was it you commenting about your white vriseas rotting off? we have had better success since Johnny took over the top shelves of the seedling area to put his vrisea pups when freshly potted. this area has an alsonite roof so he can control their watering. I think it is a humid area with the seedlings below and this may help the pups throw roots down. But he hasn't lost any pups since he started doing this. he only moves them out when they are really established and he needs to put more pups there after potting. He also does what Nev does lets the pups dry out for a week before potting.
night
Wendy
perke_patch

November 17, 2013
5:14 AM

Post #9710781

Oh I just remembered Jean (I think it was Jean) asked about tillandsias. I go to a local grower called Barry Genn and buy bulk lots of loose tillandsias to onsell when we have a sale. I email him when I want them and pick up the box about Thursday or Friday before a sale. I can let you know next time I get a box of them and see if you want any of them. I always find several each time that I don't have so they go straight into my collection and not out for sale. whatever doesn't sell I mount and put them in my stuff also. he grows a lot from seed and has lots of crosses that he names and registers. so always a few new ones in each lot.

can't find Russ H's pics on this computer so I'll have to check the big one and the external hard drives to see if they are there. I've attached a pic of a section of Margaret Patterson's garden with all till seedlings.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 17, 2013
5:19 AM

Post #9710787

Hi everyone,

And there I was whinging that we hadnt had rain for months. We have had a bit over the last week or so, the result of storms. We had another storm this arvo and it absolutely bucketed down and is still raining but not as hard now.

Therese, we made it to the dog obedience class and I was very good and did everything Molly wanted me to. She, on the other hand was the typical dobermann, doing as she liked lots more assertiveness required on my part.

Nev, sounds like youre having similar weather to ours. The rain was most welcome but enough is enough never happy are we!!!

Nev, glad to hear Ailsa was able to track down those skewers for you, youll find them very handy. Glad to hear she closed the doors on your old ute too. Gee, we women look after you guys, good thing you take such good care of us as well.

Nev, the neo Enchantment that I have had for a while is variegated, the same as your new found surprise and I purchased a neo Enchantment Albo pup just a couple of weeks ago. I should have a few photos of the variegated one, Ill find one and attach it for you its one of my favourites. Love that Vr Platynema variegata in your pic 5.

Jean, I hope your hubbys condition is not serious and that his surgery goes well.

I dont have many tillandsias, Jean and just the tiniest bit of old mans beard so I cant help you with either, sorry.

Ian, I totally agree with you about the automatic checkouts and we wont use them either, but the day will come Im sure when well have no alternative. Both of our local Masters outlets have manned checkouts in the garden centre so we always go thru there, even if its not plant stuff were buying.

Trish, its Sunday night again, so back to work tomorrow for you, hope you have a better week ahead of you. Your Joe sounds like a very caring husband and a real darling. Enjoy your new book, I am reading through an older version of the same book which I borrowed from the local library. Love your pics.

Hi to everyone else, have a good week.

Pic 1 neo Ring Leader, pic 2 neo Screaming Tiger, pic 3 neo Concentrica Bromagic, pic 4 neo Devils Ruby, pic 5 neo Enchantment


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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 17, 2013
5:26 AM

Post #9710789

Wendy, we posted at the same time. Hope Johnny is feeling better soon. The Tropical Foliage Festival sounds good but I cant see us getting over to Cleveland this weekend. Enjoy your aqua exercises and your walks home.

Bye for now, Shirley
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 17, 2013
12:37 PM

Post #9711120

Just popped in to let you know I am still around but have been busy looking after hubby.
I had to take him to hospital yesterday and he was finally allowed home late in the day.
His op will be scheduled by the specialist asap. We are managing, but as you know. having a man confined to the house or bed can be a very busy thing.
His tests were positive ,so we have to wait and see what is going to happen. I will pop in when possible .
Thank you all for the offers of a bit of Old Mans Beard. Much appreciated.
I will try to pop in whenever I get a spare minute.
Jean.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 17, 2013
5:14 PM

Post #9711304

Hi everyone - It seems like the rain may have stopped although it did continue to rain yesterday after it restarted about mid morning and then rained on and off all through the day. It did give me a chance to clean and pot up another batch of Billbergias though. This now just leaves me with about another fifty or so to go (unless I find some more I forgot I had).

Trish - Yes it was a bit of a shame it ended up raining for the i98FMs Camp Quality Convoy fund raiser yesterday, however I'm sure they would still have raised a lot of money as it didn't seem to deter the thousands who were lining the highways watching the convoy go past.

That chap I spoke of that soaked his bark in Condy's solution was called Mike; he only posted here for a short time which is a pity as he was a wealth of information and lots of ideas. I found the notes I kept about his treatment of new pine bark and of course the most important bit which was the strength of the Condys solution. It was 1/4 teaspoon of Condy's Crystals in a barrow full of water. (He didn't say but I would imaging it was a builders size barrow).

To answer you question, no I've never tried it as up until now I've been able to get that aged bark potting mix I spoke of and didn't need to, but it's just possible that I may need to try it sometime soon the way things are going with my hunt for this potting mix.

Thanks for providing the names of those two plants; I had though the one which was second from the left looked like Neo. Cliff Siverd but wasn't quite sure; and before you ask, yes! I do know where the pup is and haven't lost it even if I still can't find the 'Sam Smith'.

I posted that pic of Evita especially for you to see as I was pretty sure that was the Vriesea you said had been given to you as a gift. It's a great little plant which flowers and pups freely and stays in colour for ages and is also good to bring indoors for a bit of colour.

I'm sure you'll enjoy drooling over the pictures of Andrew Steen's new book, there's some fantastic "eye candy" in there to look at. I have the three books he wrote and they are all well worth buying just for the pictures alone, but don't forget the information in them is written for N.Z. conditions not Australian.

What's the name of that beautiful plant at the rear and second from the left in Pic.4? I'm glad you mentioned that this was a pic from 2012 as I was just going to say how many more plants you could get if you extended the garden further along the fence and by now you probably already have.

Ian - Thanks for the D-Mail, you've made my day. I may be able to help you in your quest for a longer hanger as we got some in at our Brom Society for a few of the growers to try on their Bills. I also got a pack but haven't yet tried them.

They are a wire hanger which has a hook on top with four droppers 95cm. long. They are straight on the ends with no hooks to attach to your pot with the idea being you can cut them to what ever length you want and then just bend them into a hook to suit what ever size is required. As for expense, I don't think they were that expensive, and I know they came from somewhere up north of here (possibly Qld). I'll get in touch with the lady who handles the sales and ordering and get more details for you.

As soon as my daughter returns my camera (which she borrowed a week ago for just a couple of hours Ha! Ha!) Ill take a pic of one and post it on here for all to see. In fact I think a pretty handy sort of bloke like you could easily make his own; even cheaper than they sell for.

It was Mike as I mentioned above to Trish, do you know him and what is his other name and do you have a contact address for him? I had all this info on my old computer which I lost when it crashed and being the unlucky amateur that I was/am I hadn't backed anything up at that time so lost the lot. He just seemed such a knowledgeable bloke who liked to share information and it looked like he was going to be a regular on here. He said he had to go somewhere to help a friend do a job or build something and wouldn't be back for a few weeks and that was over a year ago and I fear he's forgotten all about our little forum.

Great Crypt. Pic's Ian; I've promised myself that one day I'll learn how to grow these little beauties, however all attempts up until now have met with disaster. I have a couple of internet brom friends who have bred some beautiful examples of this genus and you can see their wonderful work at the sites below.
Lisa Vinzant.:
http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?fields=Breeder&id=1363&search=vinzant
Chanin Thorut:
http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?fields=Breeder&id=10021&search=thorut

Wendy Sorry to hear Johnnys not feeling too good. When Im feeling too crook to do anything out in the yard I sit inside at the table and thin out and transplant small seedlings into containers; its a job that has to be done (sooner or later) and it certainly stops the boredom and makes the day go faster.

What you say about what Russ does is similar to what I intend doing except I have covered a couple of benches with Ripple Iron and I can sit any size pot on them without them toppling over. A certain amount of water will lie on the iron after watering or during rainy periods but because the plants are sitting on the high point of the corrugations, they still get some air flow beneath them. I intend to make a moveable support out of 100mm x 100mm galv. mesh and support it about 100mm above the bench. I can then position the 100mm pots inside the mesh and it will prevent the top heavy Bills from toppling over. So far Ive just got a couple of benches covered with the Ripple Iron and theres still heaps of re-locating to be done before Ive got it all under control, but Ill post pics when its finished.

Ill look forward to my package of goodies, and while youre at it why dont you include a list of some of the things I have that you would like in exchange. How are you off for seed, do you want a bit more for Johnny to play with? I have some fresh seed from a nice Alcantarea species called Alcantarea odorata if you would like some.

Shirley I like both of forms of the Neo.Enchantment but I only ever remember getting two as swaps from other brom friends and they were both albo-marginated. I didnt know there was another form but looking on the BCR it seems it isnt registered, although its shown on the FCBS site and was entered there in March 2000 as a Bob Larnach hybrid with no parent listed. The picture depicts a variegated plant similar to the one I posted on here and I can only surmised that my plant is the result of one of my albo-marginated plants reverting back to just variegations.

Great pics once again and Im fascinated with the one called Neo. Concentrica Bromagic. I havent heard of it before and cant find it listed anywhere but there is a Neo. Bromagic but that doesnt look much like your plant and besides it doesnt even have concentrica as a parent. Do you know anything about its history?
See: http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/bcg/bcr/index.php?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3356#3356
I also like your Neo.Devils Ruby, it looks a bit like Camelot only with nice wide leaves which makes it pretty easy on the eyes.

Jean Im sure hubbys op will go well for him. I know its a very worrying time for you both, but think positive and remember theyre making new breakthroughs in surgical techniques every day. If you want someone to talk to, drop me a D-Mail as it sometimes helps a lot to share your feelings about these things with others outside the immediate family and besides, Im a pretty good listener.

Sorry I have no pics today, but Ill get some more when my camera finds its way home.

All the best, Nev.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 18, 2013
2:24 AM

Post #9711483

Hi Everyone!

We got some nice rain late yesterday evening (9mm in the last 24hrs) brought in by a storm that formed around us but not what we had expected, never the less though it was really nice and the garden needed more of the fresh stuff.

Hi Ian nice Crypts, Black Magic is really nice because its just that little bit different to the usual types.

Hi Wendy hope Johnny feels better real soon. Sounds like you have been flat out busy as well as exercising heaps and by the sounds of things you are really enjoying the exercise which is great. Its invigorating isnt it exercising? Also hope you had a great time at Hervey Bay.

Wendy yes it was me commenting on some of my white vriesea pups rotting off (ones with no roots). Thanks for sharing how Johnny grows his and how well they are doing since he moved them. For now I have altered the mix I have mine growing in to see if this helps but will have to look at putting them in the nursery on one of the shelves once I have made some room for them. Wendy those Tills in Margaret Pattersons garden are gorgeous.

Hi Shirley sounds like you are getting heaps of rain; we had a little which was nice to freshen things up around the garden.

Shirley yes back at work already boo hoo he he. Hopefully this week is kinder as it really knocked me around by the time Friday came around which made it really hard to truly relax on the weekend so I just had to have some chill-out time on Sunday and just did not overdo it and I even had a bit of a sleep in which was nice for a change.

Shirley yeah my hubby Joe is a very caring husband a big sweetie. We work great as a team and really have each others back when it comes to looking after each other. During the week I normally get home later than Joe and he starts dinner and feeds the dogs and normally has a hot cup of coffee / tea ready for me when I walk in the door, then we sit outside and chat about our day and when we go back inside I finish off dinner and wash up afterwards and then we just kick back and chill out together and normally end up talking about broms and orchids. On another note I really enjoyed starting to read the new addition of Andrew Steens book but I think there are far nicer pictures in the one you are reading right now. Shirley thats a fantastic lot of pics you posted, my favourite out of all of them would have to be Pic 5 of Neo. Enchantment in flower.

Hi Jean so sorry to hear your hubby is not feeling well but sure his operation will go well and that he will be back home before you know it. Jean just remember your great brom friends are always here for you if you need us, we are only a thread away.

Jean I had a look and I can post you a good handful of the Grand Fathers Beard, probably one of those Glad Zipper Lunch Bags full for now until I can get my hands on some more.

Hi Nev pleased to hear the rain stayed away long enough for you to pot some more Bills, golly gosh still 50 or so to go, if I lived closer I would pop over and help you pot the rest up; wouldnt that be great if we all lived closer to one another, we could organise working bees and get a lot more done around the garden dont you think.

Nev how much money did i98FMs Camp Quality Convoy end up raising? I hope the rain stayed away.

Nev thanks for the further info on the bloke Mike who soaked his bark in Condys solution, I will have to give it a try one day as its always great to try growing in different mediums except I dont have that much time up my sleeve at the moment to experiment which is a shame because its normally in my nature to. Nev if you happen to try it before I do can you please let me know how you go and I will do the same.

Nev he he when I visit Rob Smythe next I will look and see if I can purchase a Neo. Sam Smith as well as I will check out our local market as sometimes a lady sells the odd one there and I normally jump on them when I see them as they are hard to come by and what I class as a really slow grower and if I have any luck I will pop one in the post to you save you looking for the one that is hiding.

Nev thanks I thoroughly enjoyed reading and looking at all the beautiful pics in the new addition of Andrew Steens book with a nice cup of tea and it enticed me to go back outside and play with my broms some more although I should have been resting but I find it hard to sit for too long anyway and the fresh are did me the world of good.

Nev the brom you asked about in Pic 4 second from the left (top row of broms) is Neo. Meyendorfii Corinecea, one that you have asked about before and I have had your name down for a pup since 18/05/13 but still no sign of pups yet so I will have to give it a hurry along. Nev he he yes that was an old pic of the brom garden bed and yes your too right I have pretty much extending the garden bed right along the back fence line except for about a quarter left to do up the far end. It does not take long to chew up space when you put your broms in the beds as pups and then they grow up and some have to be shuffled around elsewhere, so the garden beds are forever changing because of this which I really like.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Sorry old pics again as have not taken new pics in awhile:

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ianperry

November 18, 2013
2:55 AM

Post #9711488

Hi all, Just a bit of pottering around my plants and have a good squiz at them. Since the rain, only the last 2 days they look a lot brighter. The ones sitting on gravel with water under them seem to have perked up a lot, especially the Crypthansus. Last nights pics were a week old and it was because of them that I decided to increase their humidity, now some of them need repotting. Then I packed a parcel for Nev.
Wendy one day I want to get to Russel H's place too but at the moment it is about 6-7 hours drive. A bit far for a quick week-end jaunt.There are a few other growers around that area as well that I would not mind seeing. Just a quick question, Does Barry Genn do mail orders?
Nev Yes I have met Mike M from Tannum Sands and I believe he is a wealth of knowledge. It was he who suggested Condys Chrystals as a fertiliser. I don't remember the details. In the couple of hours that I spent with him I heard more than I absorbed, but every now and then something he told me filters through. Often when another person tells me the same, then I remember where it came from first to me.. I do have his contact details and ought to ring him up for some more information and invite him back to this group.
I like the look of those wire hangers, I just wonder if being metal they might get hot and burn the leaves.
Well that will do me for tonight.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae nudicaulis variegated flowering
Pic 2 Neo mini Tigerina seedlings
Pic 3 Ae blanchettiata seedlings
Pic 4 Vr NOID
Pic 5 Grandson Blade learning to walk

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perke_patch

November 18, 2013
4:53 AM

Post #9711541

Hi again to everyone. Jean I hope things work out for your hubby. make sure to take care of you too. I know how stressful it is caring for a sick hubby. and don't forget that they get grumpy when they are unwell and may take it out on you. just learn to walk away and play with your seedlings. they will love you every time you splash a bit of water on them. doesn't even hurt to tell them all about it. they will listen as we all will if you need a sounding board. take care.

Nev those odorata seeds sound good. I have a fridge full of seed so if you feel like growing any let me know what you are interested in and if I have any I'll share. I sent some really good vrisea seed to a friend in RSA in exchange for some he sent to me. however neither lot made it through. someone in RSA got some good vrisea seed. hope they grew it on and didn't just dump it to get the stamps off the parcel. a very corrupt postal service over there apparently.

I have a neo labelled meyendorfii corcacea which is slightly different to yours Trish so I looked it up and there is one registered called coriacea apparently with is a Liza Vincent hybrid. I think it is very similar to the one we have so I'll have to change our labels

We had another good storm today and the tanks were running over all over the place. the broms are loving the fresh water. now I have to remove all the white foam boxes from round the yard. We've had broms sitting in them with a little bit of water but now they have a lot of water in them. we have drainage holes in them but not enough to purge all that extra water.

I'm really enjoying the exercising now and the BP is dropping so all is working well.

I'm really needing my bed now though so I'll say goodnight.
Wendy

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 18, 2013
12:15 PM

Post #9711783

I personally wouldnt use any of these pre mixed orchid potting mixes for orchids esp. the coco coir block but there good for broms. esp. if you add to them.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 18, 2013
1:00 PM

Post #9711809

Hi everyone - Another very wet day here yesterday, but the good news is I've finally tracked down the evasive Brunnings Orchid Potting Mix and would you believe I found it in a Pet Food Warehouse and what's more it was one dollar a bag cheaper than I previously paid for it at Bunnings when I bought six bags.

Trish - It sounds like we're all copping the rain now, isn't it great? Unfortunately there's still people whinging about it already; how soon they forget about all the recent bush fires we've had and how the rain will help to regenerate new vegetation not to mention filling up the dams as well and possibly avoiding the need for summer water restrictions. I guess it's a case of you just can't please everyone all of the time.

They tell us we won't know how much money they raised with the Camp Quality Convoy until about the end of the week but all guesses are that it will top last year's effort which is fantastic considering that it poured rain for most of the day. As one bloke they interviewed said, "why should we worry about getting wet if it's going to help these young kids with cancer?"

Trish please don't go buying a pup of Neo.'Sam Smith', I'm sure I'll find it eventually as it has to be here somewhere, it's just finding where that somewhere is.

While we're discussing Brom Books, has anyone got the book called "Growing Bromeliads" (Third edition) which is published by the Bromeliad Society of Australia?
It's not an expensive book and is only about 130 pages but it's full of good information written by brom growers for brom growers. It isn't full of pretty pictures like the more expensive books but it's a book I recommend to everyone who grows brom's. I call it my "Brom Bible" as I've learned so much from it and especially find the glossary at the back very useful.

Thanks for naming the Neo. Meyendorfii Corinecea the fact that I inquired about it previously, just goes to show my tastes haven't changed and my old eyes can still spot a good'un.

Great garden pic's once again and it seems that your Neo. De Rolf is still the brightest globe in the chandelier and shines out over everything else, a really beautiful brom.

Ian - As you say Ian, there's nothing like a good shower of rain to perk up the brom's, it seems to make them "glow" doesn't it?

I rang Mike once and had an excellent and very informative conversation with him, unfortunately with my old memory failing me quite a bit, I can only remember the bits I wrote down immediately after our talk. How I wish I could have recorded all the information he passed on to me as he's a bit like a "brom encyclopedia" with the knowledge he has. I think it would be great if you could contact him and invite him back here again as I'm sure we would all learn heaps from him.

I don't know Barry Genn, but I know that Russ does plants by mail order and he also sells on Ebay. I have bought plants from him and can highly recommend him as a reliable honest seller.

Speaking of the wire hangers, I also wondered if they might get too hot in the summer and I also wondered if where it touched the plant the galvanising might create a chemical burn. To overcome this you could do what I've done to the wire extensions that I use to extend the reach of my plastic hangers (See pic.1). I just slip a bit of thin plastic tubing over the wire where it will touch the plants to create a barrier.

This tubing can be bought quite cheaply at electrical wholesale stores and is commonly known as "spaghetti" in the electrical trade and is used to slip over bare wires. I have also used the thin irrigation tube (about 3mm) that can be bought at Bunnings and used with the home irrigation kits. It also does the job well as I have used a lot of it since I started making these wire droppers for my hangers.

By the looks of all those seedlings in your pic's (especially the 'Blanchies') you'll definitely have to move to a bigger block. Never mind teaching Blade to walk, teach him not to pull out Grad Dad's name tags otherwise you'll finish up like I did with a lot more NOIDS than you bargained for.

Wendy - No problem with the seeds I'll get some in the post to you. Was the friend in RSA you sent the seeds to by any chance a bloke who signs himself as "Jappie" on the Brom Forum? If so I have swapped seeds with him a few times also and fortunately I haven't had a problem with them going astray. I seem to have more mail problems when sending stuff to my son in Bali with it often going astray or having been opened prior to him getting it.

Thanks for the info about the Neo. Meyendorffii of Trish's, I'll have to look that one up.

Incidentally, anyone else who may be interested in those extra long wire hangers, here are the details an Pic.2 shows what they look like.

They can be purchased from:Easy Orchids, 3 Sussex Street, Woodburn, N.S.W. 2472 Phone (02) 6682 2635 Check out the web site at:http://www.easyorchids.com/shop/category/?limit=50&start=200 The hangers we got were item number NWHANP 900mm 4 Drop Wire Hangers (120 pce)Hanger Wire 4 Drop Pack of 120 $66

Breeindy - I guess it's a case of "different horses for different courses"; we're having great results using the Coir mulch down here as it seems to suit our climate well. As I've said on many occasions, what suits my conditions won't necessarily suit others and vise versa.

I have brom. growing friends in the tropics who can only grow in Quincan gravel, they can't use bark or Coir either as it just goes to mush in the pot, so it's a matter of using what suits you conditions.

To finish today firstly a pic of the tubing I use to cover my wire droppers (The dropper is on the right of the Bill.), Pic. 2 shows the extra long wire pot hangers and pic's 3,4 and 5 show the bill's I've just finished potting up.

All the best, Nev

P.S. Once again the window to select the pic's I want to post isn't here so I'll try with a separate post.
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 18, 2013
1:15 PM

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Back again - To finish today firstly a pic of the tubing I use to cover my wire droppers (The dropper is on the right of the Bill.), Pic. 2 shows the extra long wire pot hangers and pic's 3,4 and 5 show the Bill's I've just finished potting up.

All the best, Nev.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 19, 2013
2:14 AM

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Hi Everyone!

Quick post tonight as I have bookwork to do.

We had a nice bit of rain when I got home so that was really nice as we sat outdoors in our entertainment area and ate our dinner there so we could smell and hear the rain and the frogs.

Hi Wendy I will have to look up the Neo. Coriacea you mentioned to see what it looks like. On another note pleased to hear you are enjoying the exercise and that your BP is dropping, thats fantastic Wendy.

Hi Nev yes we are absolutely loving this rain, keep it coming its great; we have really missed it and cant get enough of it at the moment. You are too right about it being much needed after the bush fires; its so needed to rejuvenate the land with new vegetation. We are already noticing new lovely growth where we had bush fires and it is fantastic to see everything greening up again.

Nev no worries I will not go hunting for another Neo. Sam Smith, but I cant guarantee if I see one that I dont end up buying another one for myself he he as I cant get enough of this beautiful brom.

Nev I too have the book Growing Bromeliads (third edition) from The Bromeliad Society of Australia Inc. It is the very first brom book I ever brought and I laughed when you said you called it your Brom Bible as that is exactly what I call mine too funny. I have that many little Post-it Notes tagging some of the 130 pages that you would laugh at if you saw them all. I have learnt so much from this book and often refer back to it, especially like you mentioned the Glossary page at the back is very useful, a must read and one I will always have on our bookshelf.

Nev those hangers are great, Joe has been getting his from a local Orchid grower here in Townsville and has found that it is not worth his while getting them from anywhere else because otherwise you get stung by the postage. Would you believe that I have not hung a brom yet since I started collecting, but I am sure there will come a time when I will need to when I am chasing more room.

Anyway I must head off and get started on this bookwork. Sorry no pics tonight as I am well and truly out of time and I have a bit to do.
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Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 19, 2013
11:57 AM

Post #9712478

Wow! What's happened today? - Just you and me today Trish. Don't tell me I've put my foot in my mouth and said something to upset everyone if I have please tell me what it was and I'll apologise.

Not much to report anyway as I spent yesterday over at the museum stuck in the office all day while outside it was a beautiful day with the sun shining. I won't get anything done today either as today is grandson minding and question answering day, oh for tonight to come so my ears can have a rest.

I hope everyone's OK especially Jean's hubby who has to have an op, and Johnny who's been crook also and if there's anyone else on the sick list I've forgotten to mention, I'm sorry but to you all, get well soon.

Trish I meant to mention yesterday, there is also another good inexpensive little book on bromeliads which is put out by the Bromeliad Society of Queensland. It is called Starting with Bromeliads A Guide to the Growing of Bromeliads; and probably a with phone call to one of the Qld Brom. Society secretaries you could find out where to buy it.

You say you haven't hung a brom yet; well now that opens up a lot of possibilities for somewhere to house many more plants. I once had a brom friend in North Sydney who had hooks up under the eaves of his house and had big baskets of brom's hanging all over the place; he has since passed away but used to jokingly say at least it saved him from having to paint the eaves as he was too old to be climbing ladders anyway. It's easy to be wise in hindsight but thinking back now, I realise what an opportunity I missed by not taking any pictures of his Hanging Garden as he called it.

Wendy I've looked up the BCR for the Meyendorffii coriacea but there isn't a hybrid listed of that name, nor is there a hybrid listed under the name of just coriacea either. The one you are referring to is on the FCBS site but isn't a Lisa Vinzant hybrid, it's just shown as coriacea, (a species) and the second one shown in the group is a pic taken by Lisa Vinzant and probably a plant from her collection, but not one of her hybrids. So I don't know where the name has come from for Trish and your plants, apparently there's been a mix-up somewhere in the past. Another possibility is that it may be a hybrid from a crossing of Neo. Meyendorffii x Neo. coriacea, what do you think?

That's it from me today and I'll finish with a few pic's from the bench renovation. It's amazing what we find when we start moving plants around, like these three very overgrown pots of Vriesea 'Pinkert' (Pic.1) which were hanging in a corner above the bench I was working on. Anyone care to come and help me divide and re-pot them? Pic. 2 shows one of the benches with the Ripple Iron fitted. Pic's 3, 4 and 5 show a nice bit of Neo. colour from some plants temporarily put on the bench until I complete another job where they usually live.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 19, 2013
1:07 PM

Post #9712524

Hello everyone.
Just taking a minute to pop in while hubby has breakfast.
Its been busy since Sunday as I had to take hubby over to the local hospital in a hurry.
We spent the whole day there and he has been resting in bed since then.
He sees the specialist tomorrow so we should have news of exactly when he has his op.

I was able to take an hour out in the sun yesterday and take a few pics of the broms as they are gaining more color. We had 2 lovely warm days but its back to cloudy and cooler again. A bit more rain would now be nice too.

I did get one thing done yesterday, that I have been planning for a while. I finally got the bird bath set up for all the small birds that live in the bushes next to the brom area.
Sparrows , of course and some very friendly little flycatchers. There are a few blue wrens but they mostly disappeared due to feral cats a few years ago.

I did read all the posts but wont go into detail for them all as hubby is wanting a cuppa.
He is a good patient and doesnt get too grumpy when ill.

I hope any others on the sick list are improving.
Thank you all for the kind thoughts too.

pic 1... the birdbath in place. I put it closer to the bushes so the birds can hop into shelter if they need to.

pic 2...for Nev, the dracunculus has opened..

pic 3...again for Nev, neo Aztec with one of your Noble Descent x Gold fever seedlings.
I had them next to each other and as the color has developed they look like twins .

pic 4 ...neo Marble Snow looking lovely.

pic 5 ... neo Pinstripes starting to gain color.

Jean.


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ianperry

November 20, 2013
2:57 AM

Post #9712833

Hi all, Just another day today, threatened to rain but nothing came from it.All I did today around my broms was to prepare some more mulch for the front garden. The one I call a bed of pricks or laserations, depending on the audience. Schoolies go past every day and some parents pick up from in front of my house. So far the plants are well behaved and stay where I put them, sometimes the wind or dogs knock one over but otherwise they stay where I put them.
Jean The bird bath looks inviting and Neo Aztec reminds me of one of mine that I think is incorrectly named. Mine is supposed to be N Black Beauty but the leaves went reddish and the pup looks like your N Aztec. I have been suspishious for a while now.
Nev that ripple iron looks like what used to be called mini orb, it looks good on the bench. There is a lot of colour in your plants.
I had a play with a wire hanger and have yet to work out how to attach a pot without drilling holes in it. I could possibly make a ring to drop the pot through. They would be ideal for wire baskets though. I have to think of some type of claw like the plastic ones have.These are adjustable around the top of the pot. If I was to drill holes I am controlled as to where the supports go and they would possibly get in the way of the leaves. There is a simple solution but as yet I have not found it.
Trish just imagine looking at the colours of Neo Birdrock at eyelevel or of Neo Jaffa (new name for spectabilis variegated or any of the other plants that have distinct markings on the underneath of their leaves. Once you see these you will wonder why you haven't had them up before. You also change how the light shows them as well. A good plant in the right setting can become a spectacular plant, but not always. It is also a space saving idea.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 21 Ae pinliana minuta
Pic 2 Ananas lucidus and Dyckia Shere delight pups
Pic 3 Left Neo Red Claw Right N Treasure Chest
Pic 4 Neo Coming Out
Pic 5 Ae Piccininny on left, Centre are Ae Malva and Right are Bil Pink Patches seedlings

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 20, 2013
3:00 AM

Post #9712834

Hi Everyone!

Looks like more rain is coming our way with a storm warning saying we are in for damaging hail and wind that came through to our emails. The wind is picking-up out there but then it stops all of a sudden and starts back up again and you can feel the air is thick like when a storm is brewing and it just feels eerie but deep down I dont think we are going to get anything out of it, probably places more higher up like Innisfail will most likely.

I managed to get up early before work and play with my broms so that was a perfect start to the day.

Hi Nev hope your ears have recovered from your beautiful Grandsons after all the questions they would have asked you he he.

Nev thanks I am looking into hopefully obtaining a copy of the other brom book you mentioned Starting with Bromeliads as it sounds like a worthwhile read. I will let you know if I am successful in my hunt.

Nev yes the time will come when one day I will have to start hanging some of my broms but for now I am trying to avoid it as I am really good at hitting my head on Joes orchid pots hanging in the nursery at the moment so the less obstacles around me the better until I have a proper area of my own to hang them, until then I am staying clear of hanging anything but the time will come when I will have no choice. Nev the Hanging Garden you described your friend had sounded lovely and I can imagine how nice it would have looked having all the wonderful colour around up high where the light would have been fantastic.

Nev your bench renovation looks fantastic and I love the colour in all your broms as well, everything looks great and so well organised.

Hi Jean so nice of you to drop in with all that is going on in your lives at present. Hopefully you know by now when your hubby will be having his operation, our thoughts are with you both so take care and I am sure he will be in good hands and that all will go well with his op.

Jean also great to hear that you got out in the sun a little and took some great pics as well as finished the bird bath which looks fantastic by the way; how happy are all those little birds going to be now chirping away while they do laps around their pretty new pool, they are going to luv it. Great pics also Jean by the way, that dracunculus flower that has opened is amazing!
Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 Neo. Concentrica Purple in flower. The one I have in the garden has dark purple flecks through its leaves, this one is grown under 70% shade cloth so looks different but still pretty.

Pic 2 & 3 Sorry not a brom but instead a pretty orchid of Joes in flower called Bulbophyllum Claponense. I really like that burnt orange look of the flowers coupled with the beautiful red line markings and those little speck dots up top.

Pic 4 Off topic again sorry but could not help it look at what Starfish get up to when they are hungry, I took this pic at our local aquarium and was thrilled to bits at how well the picture turned out but to this day I wonder how long it would have taken for it to finish its lunch or was it dinner he he.

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 20, 2013
3:09 AM

Post #9712836

Hi Ian

Appears we posted at the same time like we normally do he he.

Nice pics and yes I am looking forward to hanging broms at some stage but for now I don't think I have a proper place ready to do so and Joe has pretty much taken over the nursery, once I have my Igloo up and running hopefully I will be able to otherwise I will have to come up with something else organised well so that I don't hit my head as I usually wear a wide brim hat or baseball cap in the yard when I garden and always seem to knock my head on Joe's orchid pots and then the swear jar has to come out he he. Anyway something for me to look forward to at some stage that I am sure will be great as you describe seeing them from underneath with the proper light etc would be great.

Anyway must fly as it is past my bed time.

Cheers

Trish

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 20, 2013
5:18 AM

Post #9712865

Hi all,

Just a very quick message so you know Im still around. I havent read all the posts tonight as Im too tired hopefully Ill catch up tomorrow.

Got a bit of a shock this morning when I found a chewed off pup on the floor of the brom house. I havent been watering because of the rain and not paying them the usual attention as we been so busy and I hadnt noticed something had been dining on my pups. I think it must be rats as I havent seen any grasshoppers or caterpillars about and there are no holes in the leaves and besides, it would take a bloody big one to do the sort of damage that has been done.

I checked on a few of the pups still attached to their mum and the majority of the smaller ones have been munched, some of them chewed off at the base and/or the centre eaten out, so not many pups happening here for a while.

I set some rat traps tonight, probably wont catch the rotten bs and I cant put down baits because of the dogs.

Anyway, sorry for the whinge if anyone has any ideas of what might be doing this, other than rats, please let me know Im so disappointed.

Photos attached of some of the pups which were attacked.

Bye for now, Shirley


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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 20, 2013
12:41 PM

Post #9713099

Hi everyone - Off topic again but I think you'll excuse me this time.

The results have now been made public with this year's i98 Camp Quality Convoy once again hitting the 1 million dollar mark and broken a new record in the process. Despite the rain, thousands of locals turned out in droves to cheer on the 755 trucks and 860 motorbikes that took part in the event on Sunday last to help kids with cancer. General Manager of Camp Quality Illawarra Bill White announced the official total with Marty and Bianca this morning. The total amount raised was $1,191,816.22 - the highest amount since the event began in 2005. The important thing about this charity drive is that every cent goes directly to Camp Quality without the "vultures" skimming the cream off the top like happens with many other charity collections.

It just goes to show that people in the Illawarra have big hearts and are still willing to donate to worthy causes even though things are pretty tough financially for a lot of them. Makes me proud to live in the Illawarra.

Jean - Best wishes for tomorrow and hubby's appointment with the specialist. At least you will then know when the op will be and don't have to keep wondering.

It's also good to see you have been able to find a little time for yourself which will help you to de-stress during this worrying time. Your bird bath looks good and I see you've thought of everything right down to putting a rock in the bath so that if any baby birds fall in the water they can easily climb out again.

Your mention of Blue Wrens reminds me of the fact that we haven't had them here for over twenty years until this year and I can hear them twittering out in the garden as I write this. Your mention of cats has probably hit the nail on the head as previously we had a cat as did our neighbours on three side and now none of us do and this is probably the reason for the return of these little birds. I must say though I wasn't all that happy when I was awoken at 3,00am this morning with a Willy Wagtail making a noise outside the window... he must have been on night shift or maybe something has disturbed him at his nest.

I love the dracunculus lily; what a magnificent looking flower. Hopefully mine will flower for me next year. The Gold Fever seedling with the Aztec are so alike they could be Mother and child; it's uncanny how alike they are. As I've said before, you never know what you'll get with hybrids, that's what makes growing brom seed so interesting. Also Marble Snow and Pin Stripe are two unusual plants in their own right and a bit different from the normal colours.

Ian - A little bit more useless information for you - Mini Orb is the correct name for what we have over the years nicknamed as "Ripple Iron". It was originally rolled by John Lysaghts Ltd down here at Port Kembla after the mill was built in 1939. The "orb" as well as being included in the product name was also depicted as their logo, a picture of which was stamped on their products. The "orb" came from the original Orb Iron Works in Newport which was opened in 1901.

I'm hopeful that this construction could turn out to be the solution that prevents the tall Bill's in their small pots (the ones too large to hang) from toppling over, but I guess only time will tell.

I too have previously had a bit of a "fiddle" with ways of securing these wire hangers without drilling the pot rim as I thought it may create a weak spot where the hole was drilled. I though about a ring like you suggest and by twisting the wire at four different places, you could make small loops for the hanger to attach to. I only made the one prototype and then as usual got side tracked and haven't got back to it yet.

That's all good info about appreciating the colours of some plants more when viewed from below. I first found this out with the old common Neo spectabilis (fingernail brom). Previously it was always grown in the garden so people could look down on it and see the bright red (finger nails) which are another feature of this plant. It isn't until it is elevated (either hung in a pot or mounted on a tree) that the beautiful barring beneath the leaves becomes evident. Given good light it also has a beautiful silvery sheen with a pinkish hue through the barring as an added bonus.

I think think that Ae. pineliana minuta is a very much underrated little plant ever since I first saw a picture of it. According to what I've read, it is now extinct in its native habitat and that's all the more reason that we all should be growing at least one plant if only to guarantee its survival. I once saw a pic of it where it had been growing mounted on a log which had been put on the flat roof of a small garden shed (and obviously forgotten about) as it eventually had covered the whole roof by growing in nothing more than the accumulated leaf litter. It was growing in a very sunny area and from a distance it looked like the roof had been painted pink and it wasn't until you saw it close up, that it became obvious it was a mass of Ae. pineliana minuta... a beautiful sight.

Looking at your plant of Treasure Chest reminded me that I have some small seedling from a cross between Passion x Treasure Chest; I must have a look and see what they are doing. Your seedlings are all looking good too Ian, possible champs of the future?

Trish - Thanks for enquiring about my ears, they're fine now thanks, but I'm still so very tired; not from what I've done, but just from watching these two little kids playing. It's go, go, go, all the time, where do they get the energy?

I agree with you Trish, the bench does look good, but it remains to be seen yet just how effective it will be. I'm also hoping that it will create more reflected light for the plants in winter, but will it prove too hot in summer? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. At this stage now that I've hung the Bill's where the Neo's previously hung it does seem brighter in there which I think is mainly due to the fact that the Bill's leaves aren't as spreading like the Neo's are.

As for organised, well that's something it isn't. Those plants were all previously hanging above where they now are on the bench and they were just chucked where they now are so I had somewhere to park them while I organised my Bill's. I am pleased with the assortment of colour though, much better than I accomplish when I try and arrange them.

That's a nice Neo. concentrica, much lighter in colour than the usual species and Joe's Bulbophyllum is lovely too. Is it an Australian native? My favourite when I grew orchids was called Bulbophyllum rothschildianum. I once saw a very large plant growing in an orchid nursery and it took me three years before I eventually persuade the owner to sell me a couple of bulbs. I also had another which was an Australian native called bulbophyllum minutissum. I only grew it out of horticultural interest as it was reportedly the smallest of the lot; it was tiny! See pic at the site below

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=bulbophyllum minutissum&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=bulbophyllum minutissum&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=

P.S. I'll bet that Star Fish had indigestion when he'd finished his dinner, Ha! Ha!

Shirley - There's nothing worse than to find a nasty surprise like that. Looks like either the work of rats, possums or bandicoots to me, but most probably rats. Do you live near the bush? If so it's probably bush rats..

We had a spate of half grown rats a while back which was due to a neighbour leaving the area and taking his chooks with him. Once the chooks went there was no grain for the rats to eat so they went elsewhere looking for a feed. Something good did come out of it though, I found the best bait for the rat trap was pumpkin seed covered in Peanut Butter; caught 'em every time. You will have to secure the pumpkin seed by wrapping some cotton around it and the bait plate other wise it will fall off. If they are bush rats they can grow quite large and will sometimes take the trap with them, I used to secure my traps to something solid nearby with with a length of light chain

As for the brom's, don't worry too much, you'll probably find they will produce more pups than they would have previously anyway.

That's it from me today and the pic's are just a few more group shots of mixed up plants on the new bench.

All the best, Nev.

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

November 20, 2013
7:17 PM

Post #9713353

A big g'day to everyone. Back home again (for a short visit). The place is looking a lot greener now since there's been some reasonable rain. Of course most of the green is weeds, but still, green is good after a long hot dry season. My rain gauge recorded 78mm in one big downpour last week. Boosted my below average total for this year. Also brought down the temps, my average maximum for November now is down to 38.6C. By the end of the month the average should be even lower as each day is at least fairly cloudy and every few days a little rain. But shortly could see a bit of a drastic change, there's a "moderate" possibility of a cyclone over the weekend or early next week. The system should bring a lot of rain, but I could do without the wind.

First job this morning was weed spraying, before the sun came right up, plus enough time before the afternoon storms come through. With the rain and the heat the weeds are growing furiously and greedily sucking up everything that falls on their leaves. It's such an ideal time of year for doing this, just a pity I don't have more time to do it.

Nev, my job is actually "drive in, drive out", rather than fly in fly out. I only live about 300 kms from work, but still live out there work days. Gives me little time to do things at home. Have to pay the mortgage somehow.

Luckily I've never had a rat problem at home, I have a lot of snakes here. Trouble is though, I have a lot of frogs as well. I really like the frogs, but so do the snakes, in a different way. Mother Nature isn't the sweet gentle creature she's often portrayed as.

That photo of the starfish, taken at the aquarium in Townsville? I've been there a couple of times, it's really great. You need to spend a lot of time to fully appreciate it.

My new Broms seem to be still okay, although it's only been about a fortnight so far. But the rainy season setting in makes things so much easier. I might move the Guzmanias out of the shade house as it's consistently more humid now and they'd probably appreciate the extra air movement outside.

The first photo is where I put the Tillandsias. The "bench" is made of bread crates (long story) filled with leaves. That gets wet from the irrigation and maintains higher humidity around the plants.

Second photo is one of my Bunnings broms, on a thick bark strip (maybe Ironwood). Very helpfully labelled Bromeliad by Bunnings.

Third photo, Alcantarea imperialis (another Bunnings job, but labelled this time), the 2 smaller ones to the front are pups from a very large growing one I've forgotten the name of.

Fourth photo some that I got from 2 different friends and they initially looked a bit different to each other. Now they're looking virtually identical. They're on a coconut palm trunk. The palm suddenly began to tilt over a few years back, never worked out why. Thought I had another nuisance chainsaw job (coconut palms badly clog up chainsaws) and put the job off for a while. Later noticed it was continuing to grow upright. So decided to leave it, and then had the inspiration to put Broms on it.

Fifth photo, the palm has made some good growth and I like the look. Probably have to secure it a bit more before roots give out. There's a tremendous amount of leverage on the roots, and it's increasing as the top gets heavier.

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breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

November 21, 2013
1:15 AM

Post #9713443

1. White Out about to flower. 2. Johannis de Rolf

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 21, 2013
5:55 AM

Post #9713538

Hi all,

Nev, yes, we live in the bush and it could be a possum or rats chewing my pups. I don�t think bandicoots climb and most of the chewed pups were on a shelf, but nothing knocked over so probably smaller than a possum.

Anyway, I set a couple of rat traps, one was untouched, the other sadly caught one of the water dragons that inhabit the back garden and patio. I was concerned they might go for the food so I set the trap with cheese rather than pumpkin seed as I figured they wouldn�t eat cheese.

He was still alive and most unimpressed and tried to bite me but he ran off when I released him so I�m hoping he�s going to be OK. So, I won�t set any more traps � I might try to get hold of a cage type trap so I can free them unharmed if anything other than the rats get caught. Nice pics, what is the spotty mini in the centre of pic 1 with the nice fingernails, please ... also the maroon on the bottom right of pic 4.

Tropicbreeze, great to see you back posting again, you must be so pleased to get home after two weeks away.

Bree, love your neo White out.

I don�t know what�s happened to DG but my apostrophes have gone queer and it looks like Trish has the same problem.

Hello to Ian, Jean (hope hubby�s doing well), Trish (it�s nearly the weekend), Wendy, Therese, Sue (come on back) and anyone else looking in. My apologies if I�ve left anyone out � it�s getting late.

Pic 1 � Quesnelia Tim Plowman, pic 2 � neo Gunpowder Too, pic 3 � neo Hula Girl, pic 4 � Vr Splendens, pic 5 � Ae Ensign

Bye for now, Shirley

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 21, 2013
11:22 AM

Post #9713730

Hi everyone � We had a nice sunny day here again yesterday and I got some more of my plant sorting out done. Unfortunately I don't think all of the plants are going to fit where I want them to fit, so it looks like a bit of ruthless culling coming up.

Tropicbreeze � Nice to hear from you again. Snakes and frogs uh? I guess the snakes have got to eat something so better the frogs than you. What sort of snakes do you get up there, are they venomous or just Pythons?

I think the main thing you need to watch during your rainy season is that your plants are well drained. Perhaps Tash could give you some pointers as she lives in a tropical area and I imagine she faces the same problems with the wet seasons that you will, so if you're reading this Tash, what advice would you give?.

Looking at the pic's of your four plants in Pic 4, I would say that the two plants in the middle are of the Ae orlandiana types and are both the same and probably are Ae. Bert. With the two plants on the ends, it's not as clear but I think they too are both the same although the one on the left has a bit more leaf damage than the one on the right.

I will have a go at identifying them but it will be and each way bet; just going on the colour and the markings of the leaves alone, I would say they could either be Vriesea Splendriet or Vr. Splendens or possibly Aechmea Chantinii or one of its hybrids.

If they are Ae. Chantinii or one of its hybrids, the leaves will be of a similar consistency to those of the Ae Bert and have prickles along the leaf edges. If on the other hand they are Vr. Splendriet, the leaves will be much thinner and they will have smooth edges. Anyway they're my guesses, what does everyone else think? Incidently, if the two on the ends are Vrieseas they will do better in lower light than the ones in the middle.

I do like the look of the palm in your last Pic. I think it's quite artistic and a real statement maker.

Breeindy � That Neo. White Out has a most unusual coloured centre and very appropriately named. I've never seen this one before nor can I find out any information about it; most unusual. As for Neo. DeRolf, well that's always a winner and a beautiful plant in any company.

Shirley � That's bad luck about catching the Water Dragon in the rat trap, hopefully he's learnt his lesson and won't go near rat traps again. What we used to do when I was a kid and we didn't want the chooks getting caught in the rat trap, we would put it inside an old canary cage (the ones they used to put a single canary in in those days). We would just spread the vertical bars sufficiently for a rat to get through and they always worked as we never caught any chooks.

The spotty mini in the centre of pic 1 with the nice fingernails is Neo. marmorata (compact form). It's a plant that appeals to me and one I've had for many years after I went through a fad of collecting different forms of marmorata plants. That's the smallest from about five different forms with the largest being about thirty inches across. There is another form shown at the top of Pic3 and the left of Pic 4.

The maroon one at the bottom right of pic 4. is an almost mature seedling from a cross of Neo.Gold Fever x Self. The leaves usually sit a bit flatter than shown in the picture as those plants were all just squeezed in to temporarily make room on another bench

I don't know what DG's done sticking in a secret code to complicate things even further; I noticed it when I reviewed my post yesterday and then went back over it and removed all of the apostrophes and inverted commas and everything was back to normal again. It remains to be seen what will happen this morning.

I see you've posted more great pic's again today. That's the first time I've ever seen the flower on a Tim Ploughman and it's beautiful. Does it last long or is it short lived like Billbergia flowers?

They are all great pic's but if I had to chose it would be between the Neo.Gunpowder Too and the Ae Ensign they're both outstanding and beautifully grown plants.

Time to go again and Pic.1 is an Ae. recurvata x recurvata hybrid, Pic.2 is Bill. Kip and pic's 2,3,and 5 are just group shots of the plants on the new benches.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 21, 2013
1:13 PM

Post #9713782

Hello everyone. Just popping for a quick read and look at all the lovely pics.
Going to Warrnambool yesterday and not getting home until around 8pm , made a very long day.
Hubby will have his op in 4 weeks so we still have to wait for results.

It was a cold and showery day all day yesterday with that misty rain that looks more like light fog.
We are both a bit tired but I am off to Hamilton for shopping which didnt get done yesterday.

I will take a few pics over the weekend and take a bit more time to read over all the posts again.

Enjoy the coming weekend and I hope you all have nice weather.

pic 1... my three quesnelias..one is I think, mamorata.

pic 2... neo Gazpacho gaining color.

pic 3...neo Syncopate, also gaining color.

Jean



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ianperry

November 22, 2013
3:03 AM

Post #9714135

Hi all, just a quickie tonight and a few.
Jean the centre Ques is a mamorata, the one on the left could be an Arvensis rubra and the one on the right another Arvensis. When they flower we could be more definite.
Tropicbreeze In your Pic 4 the end plants are some form of Ae Chantini and the ones in the middle are Ae orlandiana, but which one I am not sure. You could put a prop under the end of your coconut palm to support it, I think I see one part way along. It could have broms growing on it as well.
Shirley, rats are a problem here too and I am in town. The cane harvest and a bit of rain has them on the move. I have put out more baits.
Bree I love Neo White out.
Nev Ae revurva x recurva is hot, looks like it is on fire.

I had some fun this afternoon trying to remove Ae bracteata seeds from their pods. Sure they squeeze out easily enough but are covered in a clear slime more sticky than Acanthrostaccys stobilla seeds. For most seeds I can usually just wash off anything that I don't want in water with a few drops of dishwash detergent and then dry them on a piece of curtain material that will let water through but not the seeds. It wouldn't work tonight so back to the tried and true method of using paper towelling. Then of course it has to rain tonight.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Ae Aquilegia maybe
Pic 2 Ae Fred flowering
Pic 3 Ae Rakette flowering in a pot.
Pic 4 Neo On Target maybe
Pic 5 Ae Malva L and Ae Mulfordii Melba on right

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 22, 2013
3:43 AM

Post #9714140

Hi Everyone!

BIG sigh of relief it’s the weekend finally…

We had a good downpour of rain last night and pretty much all of today with storms as well and they are saying that the weather will be like this over the weekend and the rest of next week so that will be really nice.

Hi Shirley so very sorry to hear you pups are getting chewed up by something, when I saw the pics I was horrified and so disappointed for you and I hope that the mums produce some more pups for you to replace the one’s lost. If there are any pups that you have totally lost during the feeding frenzy that you fear you may not be able to replace because the mother is too old to produce anymore let me know and I will see if I have any spare pups around the garden? Also sorry to hear about the Water Dragon, I hope that it survived the ordeal and I know how much they mean to you and I always like hearing about them and seeing the gorgeous pics you post of them.

Shirley yes it looks like we both had weird symbols coming up on our DG the other day, anyway I hope they do not cause us any trouble the next time we post our thread. Looks like Nev also has weird symbols on his post too. Oh and yes – yeah I am so pleased it is finally the weekend as had another huge week at work.

Hi Nev so wonderful to hear that i98 Camp Quality Convoy raised the most they have ever raised on record, that’s fantastic and for such a worthy cause. Isn’t it nice to know how many big hearts are truly out there when sometimes it feels like there isn’t, but times like this truly reinstate one’s faith that there are caring people out there that do care and that warms my heart hearing how fantastic the fund raiser went.

Nev pleased to hear your ears are fine after the visit from the grandkids, I hope also that you managed to catch-up on some rest after such a big day. I know that when my niece and great-niece visit we are totally exhausted afterwards because our great-niece is very vocal and a bit of a chatter box like her great-aunty he he, she just does not stop. The one thing we luv the most about her is she has fantastic table manners and eats whatever you put in front of her, oh and then there’s the fact that she is cute, cuddly and we luv her he he.

Nev in answer to your question on the 20/11 about the Bulbophyllum pic I posted 2 x pics of , Joe believes it is a species, he does not think it is a native and believes it is from Cambodia. Wow Nev that’s a teeny weeny flower on that Bulbophyllum minutissum and its name is very fitting the cute little flower. I showed Joe and he was blown away by the flower and wanted to thank you very much for providing the link.

Nev he he yes that Star Fish definitely would have had indigestion after what he had for dinner – fascinating really.

Nev those bom pics you posted on your new benches are so full of wonderful colour and so pleasing to the eye, I hope they continue to do well given the adjustments you have made but I have no doubts that the wont as I know you would have thought long and hard before you built the benches and they should hopefully still get good airflow with the waves underneath them and hopefully heat will not be an issue given they are covered by the shade cloth. Anyway, I look forward to hearing how everything goes.

Hi Tropicbreeze welcome home, I hope you have a fantastic time chilling out in your garden and among your broms which all look fantastic by the great pics you shared with us. Ah weeds can be a real pain but I find if you pluck them out before they form seeds then they are great to dig back into compost, it is just a matter of timing and knowing what can and can’t be composted. Ours too have been growing madly with the rain but it pleases me to see everything is doing so well and looking so green.

Tropicbreeze we get a lot of snakes here too as our house overlooks wetlands behind our place so we get a bit of everything visiting us every now and then.

Hi Bree nice pics, especially luv Neo. ‘White Out’.

Hi Jean pleased to hear you now know when hubby is having his operation and I hope you can both try to relax in the meantime, I know easier said than done but I hope that you both can and it would do you some good to get out in the garden when you can weather permitting and de-stress and like you say look and pics on this forum as I know that always picks my spirit up if I am feeling down. Anyway thanks for letting us all know and keep your chin up best you can. Beautiful pics you posted also, I have always liked Neo. ‘Syncopate’ and like you I am right into purple broms and this one has that plus the pretty flecks that it gets throughout its leaves.

Hi Ian, nice pics, fantastic to see you are busy as usual with your broms. I use a fine sieve to wash my seeds and dry them on paper towel overnight and sow them the very next day.

Anyway time to head, unfortunately I have no pics I can access tonight as I am on another laptop that is like a drone really that does not have the usual files that I normally can access.

Hi to anyone else looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 22, 2013
12:35 PM

Post #9714406

Hi everyone � Well today's the big day; 50th Wedding Anniversary. No work today, just celebrating 50 wonderful years with our family.

Jean � Glad to hear hubby is at last on the road to success. Don't worry, four weeks will go in no time and then everything will be back to normal again. I've often compared myself to a car, every so often I have to go to the doctor for a service or in some cases the 100,000 km service in hospital. I think that just like cars, as we get older, things break down and have to be fixed.

I think your little Quesnelia in the centre at the back looks a bit like marmorata. There's a great pic of a beautiful large specimen plant on the FCBS Photo Index. (No.12 in the species section). Just think that's what yours will look like one day. Also Shirley posted a beautiful pic of Ques.'Tim Ploughman' on the 21st, but did you know that Ques marmorata is its Mother?

Your two Neo's are starting to colour up nicely also, bring on the warmer summer weather.

Ian � That Ae recurvata x recurvata is about halfway between the common recurvata and the variety benrathii size wise, so not very big at all. It is growing in the warmest corner of the shade house and facing north. It was mid afternoon when I walked past and noticed it �glowing� and just had to take that picture. By the way it had plenty of seed pods from where I selfed it last year so if they have any seed in them, I'll send you up some (also anyone else who would like some).

Yes Ian, like you I find that some of the larger seeds have that very stubborn jelly like �goo� all around them (or as one New Zealand grower calls it �seed snot�). I use the same method of cleaning as you, and have the same result with very little of it washing off. I just tip mine onto a bit of photocopy paper and sit them in a warm place to dry. The goo that's still attached doesn't seem to worry them as they still grow OK. Putting them on photo copy paper makes them easier to scrape off when they are dry. I think that goo might just be one of Mother Nature's tricks to help them adhere to what ever they contact once to pod bursts. Personally I have always had better results when I squeeze the fresh seed directly from the pod onto the seed sowing medium (goo and all) and this applies to all seeds. The only time I wash and dry seed is if I want to store it.

That's an interesting lot of pic's you've posted today Ian, I can't confirm that your first plant is Ae Aquilegia as I have no experience with it, all I have is a few small seedlings. Your second plant I don't know of either but I think it looks fantastic with its most unusual coloured inflorescence. I have Ae Rakette but have never flowered it. I have it hanging high up just beneath the shade cloth roof and the amazing colours beneath its leaves never ceases to amaze me and it's worth growing it for that feature alone. Neo. 'On Target' is a great plant in any company and always attracts admiring comments.

I know I've said I'm not into plants with vicious prickles (and your last two plants seem to have plenty of them), but it's the unusual foliage colour that catches my eye; very nice.

Trish � I'll bet you're glad the weekend is here at last after your busy working week. Time for you and Joe to relax among your plants.

That's an excellent suggestion you put to Shirley about the plants she has lost which won't throw pups again. I'm sure if she gets a list together, between the two of us we can help her replace the damaged plants (and don't be worried about accepting gifts from us either Shirley as I know just how stubborn and proud brom growers can be). I remember when Cyclone Tracy went through up north, there were a lot of growers on a forum I frequented who lost plants. I wrote on the forum that if they contacted me I would replace free of charge any that I had spares of and I never got a single request; why would that be?

Regarding those weird symbols, I contacted DG administration yesterday and got a reply this morning from Melody who said she would pass on the problem to the technical department. I must say at this point that any time I've had a problem with DG and reported it, I've always had a prompt reply and something was done to rectify it. So if you ever get a problem, don't be afraid to notify them about it because if they don't know a problem exists, how can they fix it? Just scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on �contact us� and a screen will come up where you can post your message; just take it from there.

(Sorry everyone, I know it's not a brom but is the next closest thing to one and it is an Australian) - Yes Trish, as I said, I grew the little Bulbophyllum minutissimum purely out of interest as I found it amazing to see such tiny flowers; I recently came across an article about how it's disappearing from its natural habitat which is sad because as well as being the smallest of the bulbophyllums (sometimes even said to be the smallest orchid in the world � now that's a miniature) it's an Australian native. Regardless of what is written on the World WideWeb, I can still take you to a place where it is still growing in abundance high up in a 120 year old Fig Tree. The reason it's still there is probably because nobody knows it's there. I had it pointed out to me by a native orchid enthusiast may years ago and it was still there when I drove past it a few months back, you just have to know where to look and what you are looking for. Joe might find the following short article interesting also:
http://www.hortuscamden.com/plants/view/bulbophyllum-minutissimum-f.muell/

Back to the modifications and yes I manage to get another bench done yesterday and sorted out even more plants; it's so much like opening Christmas presents and I'm finding things I had forgotten I even had; who knows, Neo. 'Sam Smith' might even be lurking there somewhere as well.

It seems that's about it from me today so now to see what pic's I can find to post. Pic.1 is the beautiful pale apricot form of Guzmania wittmackii, unfortunately because it's so tall (four feet) it's a very difficult plant to photograph and do it justice. Pic.2 is a mixed up batch of Vrieseas and Nidulariums during the reorganisation of this shade house, Pic.3 are a few patterned leaf Vrieseas, Pic.4 is Ae Recurvata x Caudata growing happily in the garden and Pic.5 is Neo 'Skotak's Tiger' with two massive pups and me not being game enough to tackle the spikes to remove them.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 22, 2013
1:42 PM

Post #9714448

Hello everyone. Its raining here too. Just a fine misty rain , but the plants like it.
Thanks for the comments re hubby. Yes we are feeling better now that there is date to look forward to. Once everything has been done , we can get on with our lives .

Ian, thank you for giving me the name for the small quesnelia.
I love your two purple broms in pic 5.
I have ae. Malva . It is very large and was a bit pale when I bought it but is looking very nice now. You can see it behind the bird bath in pic 1 on my 20/11 post.

Trish, yes, neo Syncopate is quite lovely with its spots slowly coming out.
Lovely to see Joe enjoying his orchids.
I am so pleased with mine as I have waited years for them to flower and now I get a few each year that flower. I am waiting on a small plant of cynbid Sarah Jean to open again.
Hubby doesnt know one plant from another , but he enjoys walking around looking at them and trying to look very interested as I describe this one or that one.

Nev, those are lovely pics of all your massed plants.
Isnt it odd that when we arrange them, they dont look as good as an accidental arrangement ?
Your Skotaks Tiger does look savage, but I tackle my spikeys with a good pair of gloves I use for roses. They are a soft leathery material . I think they were called Riggers.
I usually work on the broms upside down, ( the broms uspside down , not me...lol)
I find that resting them on the plastic crate I use as a low table , I can tip out , cut off and repot easily.
I learnt from handling the epis with their very fine prickles that lurk , just waiting to see a bare finger.

Better get up from here as hubby wants a cuppa.

Hello to everyone else out there. I hope all is well with you.

I am going to spend time down the back later, chatting to the brugs as I pot up a couple of new ones.
I really must resist eBay, but sometimes I just fall in love with a particular brom.
I like to buy the bills that come on with no names. ( usually very cheap)
Its always pleasing to see them develop their colors and flowers.

pic 1... neo Bobs Baby ..neo Imperfecta behind it.

pic 2... neo Lamberts Pride starting to gain some lovely color.

pic 3...neo Inferno

Jean

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ianperry

November 23, 2013
2:39 AM

Post #9714733

Hi all another Saturday has finished its light. Yes I did some work today in the garden. I started off finding a few plants with flowers on and hopefully ready for fertilisation. I tried Neo Blue Nude with both Red Macaw and Correa arrujoi. I tried these both ways and I tried something else but have forgotten what it is. Time will tell if I was successful or not. After this I did some cleaning and depupping. This time I have used flowers of sulphur on the cuts. I then removed a few palm fronds that were cluttering up the path and then potted up some 30 Ae feustenbergia (old name beeriana) seedlings. Then it was time to do something for myself. I sat on my bum and read a few pages from a book, not even garden related.
Jean as I look at Neo Syncopate and see the mottled markings and look around here I see a few plants with similar markings but with different colours. I am thinking that there has been some hybridising with this plant. I could be wrong and have not bothered to look it up. There is another purple leafed Ae called Reubens. It has longer leaves and the small spines are spaced further apart. I have it here somewhere too. I am glad you like those plants.
I tackle my spikey plants bare handed as this is a way of keeping my blood pressure down, not recommended by a Doctor. Once I spike myself a few times I remember to get some protection.
Nev those 2 Ae in the last pic are no worse than Blanchies to handle. They are growing in full sun I planted some seed today, Ae bracteata. I usually wash all my seed just because it makes it easier to spread my seed in the trays more evenly, just what I have found easy for me. Any left over I then store in the fridge. Nice pics. I especially like Skotaks Tiger, wish I could help you break it up, but I am not so I cant. I hope you enjoyed the day of your 50th anniversary. Congratulations to both of you.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Ae blanchettiata green form flowering
Pic 2 Ae blanchettiata orange form
Pic 3 Ae Chantini under the mango tree
Pic 4 Neo NOID. this plant I bought with a name tag of Queens Tears. It is incorrect.
Pic 5 Neo Moby Dick behind Neo Morris Henry Hobbs.

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 23, 2013
6:23 AM

Post #9714925

Hi everyone,

Nev, I have never seen neo Marmorata compact form before, I agree it's a very attractive plant.

I will have to let you know how long the flower on Tim Ploughman lasts as it's the first time I have flowered it.

Jean, hope all is going well for you and hubby.

Ian, I can't use baits here. A few years ago our Doberman, Max, we had at the time, caught and had a bit of a chew on a baited rat. Apparently, the poison in the rat's blood from the bait can affect animals that bite them. It took weeks to get the results of blood tests to show the poison was not in Max's blood. Ive never used another bait.

I did buy a rat trap cage from Bunnings, the mechanism seems a bit dodgy but I couldn't find any other, unless I buy on eBay and wait for delivery and I don't want to do that as I fear for my remaining babies.

Trish, it was really lovely of you to offer your spare pups to replace those I have lost and I really appreciate the offer, but its OK. Most of the pups eaten were the first pups from my newer broms, you know, the ones I have been eagerly watching for the appearance of that first pup. I was most disappointed that they disappeared almost as soon as they appeared but I'm sure there will be more, I just have to make sure they don't meet the same fate. Fingers crossed that I can catch the culprits. Thanks again, Trish, you are very thoughtful and caring.

Nev, congrats on your 50th wedding anniversary, that's fantastic. And thanks too for your generous offer to replace my lost pups. As I told Trish, the majority of them were first pups on newer neos. I know they will have more, it was just really disappointing, I hate to lose any of my broms, I am one sorry addict I'm afraid. Like I said, thanks so much to you both for your selfless offer.

Nev, to remove the pups from your neo Tiger, try cutting a hole in the toes of an old pair of thick work sox and pulling them up your arms, works for me.

Jean, I had a little giggle at the thought of you working on your broms upside down.

Ian, your NOID in pic 4 looks a little like it has neo Barbarian in there somewhere. It also could be neo Vibrant, it is a nice one.

Pic 1 - neo Glowing Purple, pic 2 - neo Manoa Beauty pup, pic 3 - neo Jaws, pic 4 - I think is neo Canefire Purple - will have to check tomorrow

Thats it for me tonight,
Shirley



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 23, 2013
9:19 PM

Post #9715342

Hi everyone � A nice fine sunny day here today after a mixed up lot of weather yesterday.
Nevertheless we had a lovely day at our daughter and son-in-law's place where she put on a "spread" fit for a King; for us, our immediate family and a few close friends. Entertainment was provided by the grandsons as usual who ended up playing in the puddles around the yard and splashing each other. We received a rather unique unexpected gift from our eldest son and his family in the form of a nice folder containing an �original archive copy� of the Sydney Morning Herald from the day we were married 23rd Nov.1963.

Jean � What you said about the arrangement of my Neo's is exactly what I thought; I've spent sometimes hours trying to arrange plants so they look nice and they still look pretty ordinary, but toss them all on a bench all crowded up with no thought of arrangement and they look good. I know it's not the plants as I have a reasonable collection of quality plants, that just leaves the inept arranger; me!

Removing the pups from the �Tiger�isn't so much a problem as such, as I have good long gloves that go right up to my armpits (If I remember to put them on). The problem is where do I put these pups when I've potted them as I'm cutting down on anything with aggressive prickles. Also, I've found the quality of light here isn't strong enough to give the �Tiger� the beautiful colours they can get when growing it up north, so better I sell them I think and give them a home where they can show off their beauty. (Watch this space).

I think I know of the gloves you are talking about, they are �Riggers Gloves� used by riggers in industry because they are of better quality leather and thinner than the usual work gloves which gives better dexterity which is necessary when tying ropes etc. like riggers need to do.

Jean I think you may have a couple of mixed names tags on the plants in your pic's. The Neo.'Bob's Baby' should be an albo-marginated plant, but as it's one of the �Aussie Dream� grex, it's possibly reverted back to a variegated plant as this isn't uncommon with plants from this grex. See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3275#3275

Also your Neo.'Inferno' should be plant with very strong variegations (See Pic.1). It could be a light or temperature thing with you living in a cooler area, but I don't think so as I've seen pic's of it grown in Melbourne and it's similar to the one in my pic.

Ian � You could get something nice using your Neo.' Blue Nude' as a parent. Although there are only three registered, I think one of them (Neo. 'Sultry Sky') is a beaut.
See: http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?fields=Parents&id=9921&search=blue nude

I also have a few 'Blue Nude' seedlings which are about three quarters grown and most have the nice wide leaves we look for, so fingers crossed that the colour will be nice also.

I can't find any hybrids listed as having 'Syncopate' as a parent which is surprising as it has a great gene pool with two parents as proven breeders, (Meyendorffii x princeps)

Ian you say those two plants are no worse for prickles than a �Blanchie�, well I only have one rather large �Blanchie�, but after I've been weeding around it I look look I've just stepped out of a �chaff cutter�. The blood loss isn't sufficient to worry about, it's just the bloody mess it makes.

Thanks for the congratulations for our big day and as you have read by now we did have a great day.

I must say you make me very jealous every time you put up a pic of Ae. 'chantinii', it's a plant I'd dearly love to be able to grow but it just doesn't seem to like our location, whether it's the colder winters or the maritime climate I don't know, but all it does for me successfully is to die!

I can't say I've ever heard of a Neo. called 'Queens Tears' (Pic.4 NOID) as that's the pet name given to Bill. nutans. But as we can never be sure of these things, I looked it up just the same and there's nothing registered. I have to agree with Shirley though, there certainly looks like a lot of resemblance to Neo.'Barbarian'

Shirley � I suspect that my Neo. marmorata (compact form) should just be called Neo. marmorata like all of the others and that possibly the original grower of it just added (compact form) to the name to distinguish it from the other forms. That's the name that it came to me with and we mustn't forget there's always the possibility it could be a marmorata hybrid also. The fact is, its is a nice compact form and I like it, and even though I have several other spotted types I'll keep growing it for a while yet.

What you say about the dangers of animals eating rodents that have been poisoned is very true and something people never think about. Even on a lesser scale is the case of Blue Tongue Lizards dying because they've eaten snails that have ingested snail baits. I think we are all a bit guilty of not �considering the whole picture� before we contemplate using poisons of any sort. What's even more of a worry is that these other secondary effects could be written on the package and aren't.

Thanks for the congratulations for our anniversary and like Ian, you too have probably read what I wrote above when I first started writing this novel.

As for removing the 'Tiger' pups, like I told Jean, I do have good long gloves that go right up to my armpits and are ideal for the job but I keep forgetting to put them on.

Of your pic's today I don't know Neo. 'Glowing Purple', but it's a nice looking plant and I see it's originally a Sharon Peterson hybrid from Hawaii.
See: http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?fields=Name&id=4582&search=Glowing Purple

I'm looking at your Neo.'Canefire Purple' but although it isn't on the BCR I tend to compare it with Ian's plant labelled as Queens Tears and wonder if his plant was flowered under your conditions it might not be the same or very similar plant?...Just some food for thought.

Well it's now 3.40pm and I've come in for a cuppa and a bit of a spell; I've been finishing off the other two benches in my top shade house and had to stop as it's bird feeding time. You've never seen such a mess, there's plants everywhere, hanging in threes, packed onto the benches, on the floor and in fact everywhere there's a space. I keep telling myself it will look much better when it's finished and I hope I'm right.

That will do for today anyway, and the pic's are firstly Neo.'Inferno' for Jean to compare with her plant, Pic's 2, 3, 4 and 5 are just four of my seedlings I came across while renovating the shade house benches.

All the best, Nev.

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ianperry

November 24, 2013
2:44 AM

Post #9715418

Hi all, Nothing much happening here today except for a few more seedlings potted up and still more to go. I still need to catalogue the front area but that will wait til I can get the light right for the pics. I like all the pics today.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Neo Canefire
Pic 2 Neo Pin Stripe
Pic 3&4 Bold Streak X macwilliamsii
Pic 5 Neo Quintescence

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

November 24, 2013
3:09 AM

Post #9715427

A big g'day to everyone, I'm back home for a quick unscheduled visit, to meet Alessia. They know at work that when my home goes under cyclone warning I head home. I let it go 2 days but now I'm here. Weather bureau says gales should start about 9pm, and Alessia crosses the coast 11pm. It's only a small system so shouldn't last long.

Congrats Nev on your 50th anniversary, may there be many more (years, that is).

Those plants in my last lot of photos were originally 2 plants, the 3 on the left were one, the left one being the mum now going into decline. The one on the right still hasn't pupped, and none of them have flowered. I've put in close-ups of them below.

First photo, the 3 that are the same, mum on the left.

Second photo, close up of one of the same.

Third photo, the other plant that hasn't pupped.

Fourth photom close up of the same one.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 24, 2013
12:51 PM

Post #9715749

Hi everyone, Well today could be my special day. This morning I'm off to try a course of a new type of physiotherapy (down here at least) called Finch Therapy which is getting excellent reviews from patients especially old farts like me with chronic back problems. I spoke to one of the therapists when I made the appointment and asked if it could work on me (a 73 year old) and he told me he's just finished a course on a 91 year old with an excellent outcome.

I guess I've tried everything else so I might as well give this a go too, but I don't have high expectations as I've been let down too many times in the past having tried everything from neurosurgeons to acupuncturists and all the treatments in between, so we'll just have to wait and see.

Ian That's a nice little collection of radial reds you've put together with Neo. 'Cane Fire'. I think that radial reds are a bit underrated by many growers because when they are grown well and in the right light they can be magnificent looking plants. I have quite a few I've bought as well as a few I've bred with the largest being Neo.'Nina Rehak' (about 2 feet across) (See Pic.1) right down to a mini called Neo.'Little Beauty' which unfortunately I don't have a picture of but you can see it at: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=5434#5434 However, like a lot of the older pic's on these Photo Indices it doesn't do the plant justice.

The radial red you posted called Neo 'Quintescence' doesn't look anything like the one registered as Neo.' Quintessence' as those pic's show it as not being a radial red , but then the name is spelt differently so they may not be meant to be the same plant. Your plant does have nice wide leaves though and is a much better shape than a lot of the other radial reds I have or have seen.

Tropicbreeze Gee after Alessia hits you mightn't have any brom's to worry about; how will it affect your garden is it protected very well?

I can just imagine a cyclone hitting here, there would be bloody shade cloth and plants blown from one end of Shellharbour to the other, gee I'm glad that's one thing we don't have to contend with.

Thanks for the congratulations on our anniversary, it's a pretty big milestone and if I had a choice I'd do it all over again as it's been a wonderful journey.

Now that I can see the leaves of your plants more clearly, I'm 99% sure of the names. The plants in pic's 3 and 4 are Aechmea 'Bert' which is a cross between two species, Ae. orlandiana and Ae fosteriana. There is also a variegated form See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=AECHMEA&id=42#42

As for the plants in your pic's 1 and 2, I would definitely say they are one of the various forms of Ae. Chantinii of which there are many. You can see an example on the FCBS Photo Index http://www.fcbs.org/pictures.htm and opening the Aechmea species section and going down to number 44 on the list to see some examples of these differences.

Anyway, keep your head down until the dust settles and get back to us when it's all over and things are back to normal.

Incidentally, I got another message from DG about the punctuation mark problem :

Hi splinter1804,
Since you reported this, we've had another couple reports...the tech team is looking in to the problem. Bear with us.

Happy Gardening,
melody

Time to go again and Pic.1 is Neo 'Nina Rehak', Pic's 2, 3 and 4 show just what a messy crowded shade house/construction site really looks like and Pic.5 shows a plant of Neo. nivea which has been AWOL for the last two years and which I found hanging (where it shouldn't be) among some Vrieseas (So there's still a chance I'll find Sam Smith yet Trish)

All the best, Nev.

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

November 24, 2013
1:48 PM

Post #9715787

Thanks for those comments and the IDs. Don't know how it happened but the photos show up in reverse of what I put in the text. But still, the IDs are clear. The chantinii I got from a friend in Cairns, the 'Bert' from a friend in Townsville. They were garden plants so should cope well with the heavy wet season rain.

It's the morning after here, and the night went well. Have to go back to work today but I have this weekend off. Alessia sheared on landfall. The mid section is still out to sea, the low level circulation is well inland. Some trees down in Darwin and some flooding, much quieter here. Apart from being a bit inland, I'm also in a relatively sheltered spot. The rain's been welcome and hasn't been too heavy. The broms, and the rest of the garden, are loving the humidity. Last night the frogs were out in force, I did some sound recordings. Will be good to play it back in quieter times.

Back problems can be a real pain, and people respond differently to all the remedies that are around. I was told years ago that I'd have neck and back problems from injuries. The only way I found to mitigate the problem was exercise to keep flexibility and strengthen the muscles. Seems to be working so far. Good luck with your treatment.
ianperry

November 25, 2013
2:26 AM

Post #9716040

Hi all, It has been strange weather, hot and humid with rain threatening but no show. I had a bit of a walk around my plants today and the seedlings planted up on the week-end look ok. I just might water them tomorrow if Mother doesn't do it for me.
Tropicbreeze your first pic and second one are Aechmea Chantini, one of its various forms.
Your pics 3 &4 are probably Aechmea Bert. All are nice looking plants. Just like most mothers in nature they will reproduce depending on conditions. To get more pups sometimes growers take off pups and grow them on and they will produce more pups. Being mounted on a tree they ought to handle the wet season quite well. Bert will take full sun here in Mackay if slowly introduced to it, like starting off about May. It is good news that Alessia didn't hit with full force.
Nev I haven't heard of Finch Therapy but can quite believe that a successful outcome could be achievable, even if it were only in the therapists wallet. I hope it works for the patient as well. The best results I have had for back problems were from scuba diving, I had relief due to the time underwater and my body repositioned itself.
Neo Quintescence could be named incorrectly as are a lot at our market places lately. I ought to say that I am becoming more aware of these discrepancys as I learn more about the plants. Some of the growers here are starting to ask me to help identify plants and keep updating the newer name change. I cant keep up with the changes but I try. I am still but a beginner and hope to learn a lot more in the coming years. I will have 3 up in March.
Sorry to tease you again Nev, but the first 3 plants are for Tropicbeeeze.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae Chantini
Pic 2 Ae Bert
Pic 3 Ae Bert variegated
Pic 4 Neo Kiko
Pic 5 Neo mini Remember Me

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 25, 2013
3:20 AM

Post #9716050

Hi Everyone!

Our weekend was busy in the garden as well as we had to go out a bit which really chewed up the weekend. I did managed to take pups off my really big sun hardy broms that I have been meaning to do for a while and felt pretty exhausted by the time I had finished as they are big and heavy to handle and it can be hard cutting the pups off as they have a firmer grip on the mother but I go there in the end and got them all done which was great as it is something less I have to do over the Christmas holidays.

Hi Nev Happy Belated Wishes to you and Ailsa for your 50th Wedding Anniversary! Sounds like you had a fantastic day celebrating with your family and what a wonderful gift you received to mark such a very special milestone and such a very thoughtful gift and something that would have had a lot of fore planning involved.

Nev thanks we did get to spend some of our weekend in the garden among our broms and orchids but had a few interruptions along the way which meant we were not always home, so this chewed up some of our weekend but all in all it was a nice weekend and we did get to rest a little.

Nev hope the Finch Therapy goes well for you, it sounds very promising and I hope it relieves your back pain. I need to strengthen my back as I am noticing it is giving me more grief now with sitting behind the computer so much and the fact that I am getting older, slower and carrying more padding nowdays he he.

Nev thanks for the link on Bulbophyllum minutissimum, Joe has not had a chance to go in and have a look at the link as of yet but thanks you for providing the link and hopefully will get a chance to have a look over the weekend.

Hi Jean nice to hear that your hubby likes to walk around and admire your broms as it is always nice when they take an interest in our hobbies and I especially like when Joe asks questions about my broms and takes closer looks at them when they are in flower etc. Although I do not collect orchids I do luv them and normally after he visits my broms I go and visit his orchids with him with a cup of tea in hand and we have a really good talk about them. I also make a point of researching information on them to get him reading as much as he possibly can about them as I know sometimes he gets too busy with work and does not have the time and this just gives him something to kick back and relax with when he does want to do a bit of light reading on them.

Hi Shirley you are more than welcome on my offer in relation to replacement pups for the ones that were eaten of yours by something, anytime. I am pleased to hear the mums still look like they will produce more pups for you, that’s great.

Hi Tropicbreeze so very pleased to hear that Alessia did not cause you any grief, just wind and rain, what a relief that must be.

Hi Ian great to hear you have been busy with your seedlings, now where to put them all when they get older. That’s something I have to start thinking about seriously as mine are growing quickly.

Nice pics everyone!!!

Anyway time to head as big day tomorrow.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 & 2 - Neo. 'Sun King' - photos do not do it justice as it's true colour is far more intense like it's on fire
Pic 3 - Neo. 'Enchantment' - I adore this one
Pic 4 - Neo. 'Rose Blush'
Pic 5 - My beautiful little 'Lucy' enjoying her favourite spot in the garden, perched up high so she can keep an eye on everything going on around her and catching the cool breeze under the trees and from the old shade cloth structure protecting some of my baby broms except for Vr. 'Big Red' to the left looking beautiful with the light casting it's shadow through it's big, beautiful leaves.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 25, 2013
3:49 PM

Post #9716537

Hi everyone Here we are Tuesday already and another day with my project stopped again due to work at my other hobby, The Illawarra Light Railway Museum. Last time I was there the blokes were working on one of the diesel locomotives that originally came from the Tully cane fields in North Queensland and I wondered at the time if maybe Ian had worked on this loco at some time repairing wheels. There I go again getting side-tracked already and I've only just started.

Tropicbreeze No worries about the pic's being around the wrong way; as soon as I saw the close-ups of the leaves I was pretty sure what you had. You aren't the only one who has had trouble with pictures turning out in reverse order, in fact some times they even show up sideways!. Unfortunately there seems to be some type of gremlin living on this site which often makes it difficult to post pic's or sometimes eats the text altogether or even worse, won't even let you onto the site at all and I think we've all had problems from time to time.

Pleased to hear the worst of the cyclone has passed you by and didn't cause you any damage. There's nothing as relaxing as listening to a chorus of frogs singing to each other and I can just visualise you late one summer afternoon early evening sitting back listening to your recording with a nice cold beer in you hand, completely relaxed.

Ian As I started writing this last night I hadn't seen your response to Tropicbreeze, but the ID of those two plants seems to be definite now, and you've added some extra tips about growing them in the warmer climates, so all helpful info. for Tropicbreeze.

I went to the first session of the Finch Therapy yesterday, and like you I am very sceptical of a successful outcome, but as I've tried pretty much everything else including surgery, I'm pretty much now clutching at straws in the search for something that might give a bit of relief. The session yesterday consisted of very gentle movements that I did myself under instruction while all the time asking myself, how can this be doing anything? I was warned that there were muscles to be built up that hadn't been used for a long time and the movements I was doing yesterday would cause soreness this morning, and they weren't wrong, because on rising this morning I was sore as blazes so they must have done something. I have to do the same exercises for a week before my next visit and who knows what after that...only time will tell.

Please don't think I'm being disrespectful when I comment on things like I did yesterday regarding Neo Quintescence, but when I see something that doesn't seem right I always have to open my big mouth and say something. As we've said before, these forums are about sharing information and I can only say what I believe to be correct. I've been growing brom's for a few years now and orchids for many years before that, and during that time I've seen many names misspelled and tags moved and put back in the wrong pots and have seen the confusion this can cause and this is why I always point out something when I consider it not to be correct.

I have even seen a couple of examples on the BCR and the FCBS site where there are two different plants listed with the same names. One example is Neo. 'Freckles', I have just found also, out that this little Neo. I've grown for some years with the name of 'Freckles' was changed in 2003 to Neo. guttata after being described by Elton Leme. See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=4462#4462
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=4460#4460
Also see on the FCBS, another Neo.'Freckles' which was a hybrid from a crossing of 'Fulgida' X 'Amabilis' made by (Oeser).

Confusion will also occur when you have two different plants registered with names that sound the same but are spelled differently, and an example of this is Neo.'Raspberry Ripple' and 'Razzberry Ripple'. They sound the same but are registered as two different plants (which they are) All of this just re-enforces what Derek Butcher once said, never trust the name on a label
The other thing you mention Ian are name changes, and this is something that's happening all the time and if we don't share what we know of this with others who don't regularly use the BCR or the FCBS how will they know?

The fact that you've only been growing brom's for three years doesn't disqualify you from commenting, as all of us have useful things to share, such as the pic's you put up this morning to show the Ae. chantinii, Ae. 'Bert' along with the lovely Ae. 'Bert' variegated. With all of this information I have no doubt that Tropicbreeze now knows exactly which plant is which.

I like your little mini Neo.'Remember Me' and I think the colour in your Neo.'Kiko' is the best I've seen. I notice you have it hanging as well (probably to get the good colour) but do you know it will grow into a reasonably large plant (mine is about two feet across) (Pic.1) or is that plant of yours a small form?

Trish Good to hear you and Joe had a nice time in the garden over the weekend. Regarding the difficulty we sometimes encounter when trying to remove pups from some of the very large brom's, a fellow brom grower introduced me to a handy little saw which she got at the $2 shop. It resembles what we called a key hole saw when I was a carpenter in another life but with the addition of what was then commonly called sabre teeth (they cut on the forward and back stroke). I have found it very handy for removing pups from really large plants especially now that I don't have as much strength in my hands as I once did, and it is now a very important part of my brom tools kit. (See Pic.2)

Thanks for the good wishes for our anniversary, we had a very nice day with family and a few close friends. As for the Finch Therapy, as I said to Ian, I live in hope but not getting too excited just yet.

Nice pic's you've posted once again especially little 'Lucy', she looks very much at home in that spot.

Looking at your pic of Neo. 'Enchantment' reminds me It's only recently that I've realised there are two different forms, a variegated one and an albo-marginated one. The ones I have were all albo-marginated ones when I got them and it wasn't until I found a variegated one in the garden a short time ago and a friend pointed out that it wasn't like the others. My gut feeling is that not taking much notice of it, I potted it up as a pup, put it in the garden and only recently re-discovered it and found that it had reverted.

Although there are pic's on the FCBS showing both forms, when looking at the BCR it appears that it isn't even registered.

That's it from me today as I have to get ready to go to the museum so to-days pictures are: Pic.1 my Neo.'Kiko' growing very much in a low light location and lacking the beautiful colour of Ian's plant, Pic.2 My trusty saw I mentioned in my response to Trish, Pic.3 The Tool Kit, I though as I'd shown the saw I sometimes used it might be useful to show what other implements we gather as our hobby grows. At the top of the picture are two potting sticks, below them in the following order the saw, 2 knives, one serrated and one plain, scissors, secateurs and long forceps. On the left are three different size brushes which I use when cleaning down in the centre of the plants and on the right are some aluminium name tags and a marking pen. Pic. 4 is Neo 'Enchantment' (variegated) and Pic.5 is Neo.'Enchantment (albo-marginated) Unfortunately, both of these plants have skinny leaves and lack their nice colour as they are growing in low light.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 25, 2013
9:21 PM

Post #9716693

Hello all.
Just a quick dash in and out .
I have been very bust with hubby lately and then trying to get all the things done in the garden that I need done, time disappears.
I had a quick look out in the paddock garden and was horrified at how high the grass has grown due to the continuing ran showers.
I will have to find time to Roundup, at least close to the house as its going to be a dangerous summer with so much long grass around.

I had a quick read and a good look at all the pics.
Hopefully I will get some time to have a more leisurely wander through the posts by the weekend.
I did take a couple of pics while lunch was cooking .

Hope all are well and I'm glad that cyclone did little damage to gardens.

pic 1... one of my noid bills has opened its flowers. Very pretty spotted bill.

pic 2... closeup of the flowers.

pics 3&4... two more noid bills. These are nice large ones with very pretty markings.

Jean.



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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 26, 2013
2:09 AM

Post #9716722

Hi Everyone!

Hi Nev the Finch Therapy sounds like it might work but it sounds like something you will have to do the rest of your life once you have built your back muscles up. As a great example Joe once trained together with a bloke that had two crushed vertebras when he first joined the gym and could hardly walk properly but after training for some time with Joe his back muscles took over assisting his vertebra from compressing anymore and he suffered much less back pain, had greater mobility and was able to jog afterwards but one of the thinks he was reminded to try and keep doing for the rest of his life was to keep exercising those muscles or he would have been back to square one again, easier said than done but Nev if that Finch therapy is working and it’s not putting too much strain on your back, with time it will get easier as your back muscles strengthen and hopefully the end result will be that you suffer less back pain.

Nev thanks I think Joe has one of those ‘key hole saws’ in the shed, now it’s just a matter of finding it he he, but what a great idea, thanks for letting me know as this will definitely make the job of cutting large pups off large broms far easier. Nev that’s also a fantastic Tool Kit you use, I need to get better brushes as mine are too small.

Nev thanks for the info on Neo. ‘Enchantment’, I always just took mine as being variegated and only have the one so nothing to compare with so thanks for providing pics showing the difference, looks like mine is albo-marginated by the looks of things.

Hi Jean sounds like your hubby is in great hands with you looking after him. Also pleased to hear you are still managing to get things done around the garden, you must be exhausted by the time your head hits the pillow at night. Look at you multi-tasking cooking lunch and taking pics he he, those are great pics of your Bill. in flower and what pretty colours in both your Bill. Noids.

Hi to anyone looking in or on the sick list.

Anyway time to head, another early start in the morning.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Pic 1 to 2 - Random pics of back brom garden
Pic 3 - Neo. 'Cane Fire' pup
Pic 4 and 5 - Random pics of back brom garden

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 26, 2013
12:25 PM

Post #9717012

Hi everyone � Wednesday again and our grandson comes once again to pound my ears. I guess it's a pretty special day for him today though as this afternoon is his graduation ceremony at preschool. When I was told, I became the �cranky old man� again and said why do we always have to use American terms? Why can't we call these things �Farewells� like we used to when I was a kid, why do we have to copy everything the yanks do? Have you noticed also that a lot of the adds on TV now have a person speaking with an American accent, especially the women's beauty products? Are we supposed to believe they are a much better product if we are told about them by someone with an American accent? We are Australians so let's talk our own language, �Strine�!... Down boy, off the soapbox.

Jean � Good to see you have been able to find time to post in between all the usual jobs that need doing and all the running around prior to hubby's approaching operation. Where would us blokes be without our girls behind us? It's probably a time that's worrying to you both, but look at the positive side of it, once the operation is over, he'll be a new man. Give him a big �Get well soon wish� from me.

Nice Bill. pictures you've posted Jean, I can't help you with a name for the second one but the first one is an old favourite called Bill.'Hoelscheriana'. There's no mistaking the brilliant scarlet/crimson bracts which are a distinguishing feature of this plant. I have found that if I hang it right up close to the roof the foliage will take on quite an attractive subtle pink flush as an added bonus.

It's a cross between two species Bill. saundersii (Once called Bill. debilis) and one we all know well, Bill. nutans. There is a picture of a wonderful specimen of Bill. Saundersii on the FCBS site taken by Don Beadle the �master craftsman� of Bill hybrids and the interesting thing is the size of the pot it's growing in. This supports what I have found and that is that they grow much better when under-potted than over-potted. There is also some pic's and interesting reading on the BCR about Bill. Hoelscheriana See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=BILLBERGIA&id=903#903

Trish � Already I've noticed one subtle change in something which was one of the hardest daily chores I had to do, and that's putting on my socks; I noticed yesterday for the first time in a couple of years that I was able to pull them on first go, which probably doesn't mean much to you fit people but it's a positive change for me.

As for on-going treatment and exercises, well that's no big deal as they only take thirty minutes each day which is a tiny price to pay if I'm to get any relief.

Regarding my �tool kit� I should have explained yesterday but for those who don't know, the potting sticks (bits of wooden broom handles) are used to push the potting mix down firmly around the plants and are especially handy if you have arthritic fingers and hands as you can grip it and push down in a similar manner to using a pestle when crushing seeds in a mortar. The smaller of the two is the one I use the most with the longer one especially handy for keeping your hands clear of spiky leaves of the larger plants. I do have another made from 5/8� dowel which I use for small seedlings in three inch pots.

The the smaller brushes of the three can be bought cheaply at Bunnings in the hobby or paint section. The largest one of the three which has a 45 degree bend in the middle of the metal part that holds the bristles is also available at Bunnings in the paint section. I find it especially handy when preparing plants to show, and use it for cleaning the leaves deep down in the vase and leaf axils of the plants where it's hard to reach without damaging the plant.

Great pic's once again, but I think the Neo.'Cane Fire' in pic.3 gets the cigar today. It's a beautifully marked plant without a visible blemish to be seen anywhere. I especially like the fine spotting which overlays the albo-marginisation.

To finish up today I'll show a few more pic's of plant disruption during the bench renovation. Pic.1 Bill's looking for a new home, Pic.2 xNeophytums hanging in temporary quarters Pic.3 a few Bill's trying out their new home. Pic.4 a nice colourful little seedling I found among the debris Neo. 'Thunderbird' x 'Reins Pride', and as I've heard said often before, �the photo doesn't do it justice� as the coloured centre and finger nails seem to �glow�; a feature I couldn't capture with the camera. To finish, Pic.5 Vr. Megan which I've just removed the inflorescence from to hurry up some pups.

All the best, Nev.

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 26, 2013
1:56 PM

Post #9717052

Hi all,

DG is playing tricks again ... I posted last night and this morning it has disappeared. I was unable to add any pics last night no matter how many times I logged in and out and tried various other things that normally bring up the 'image' thingy ... but I did post, BUGGER!!!

Again this morning there is no option to add pics, so I'll try again tonight.

Bye for now, Shirley


PS I can't remember anything of what I posted last night other than correcting the ID of the neo I posted in pic 4 of my last post (can't give you the date as I am in 'edit' mode). It was the one I thought might be neo Canefire Purple, which is actually neo Barbarian Pink.



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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 26, 2013
9:00 PM

Post #9717271

Hi Shirley - I had that same problem with the "choose a file box" not being there to use to post a pic with and overcame the problem by just hitting the refresh key and then it magically re-appeared. Also I think the more of us that notify administration of these faults (use the "contact us" box at the bottom of the page) the quicker something will be done about it.

All the best, Nev.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 27, 2013
2:46 AM

Post #9717337

Hi Everyone!

Hi Nev, he he I am totally on your side about your soapbox discussion today about using Aussie terms instead of American terms, it annoys me to especially the ads on TV like you mentioned, they really annoy me and I normally turn the TV off and head outside because I get that annoyed with them.

Nev, so wonderful to hear that the Finch Therapy appears to be working were you are now able to put your socks on, that’s a definite sign that your back is strengthening and I believe if you keep up the right exercise going for your back that you will notice a lot more changes over the next 6 months and will be able to do a lot more and will suffer less pain than before, but just be careful not to over-do things early in the piece so you give your body time to adjust to the exercise and if you need a break take one. I am currently trying to strengthen my back muscles as with sitting behind a computer at work most of the day I am suffering a bit of back pain every now and then, especially when I go to sleep and wake up in the middle of the night sore, but it could also be our bed mattress causing the back pain?

Nev thanks for explaining what you use the wooden sticks for that were in your tool kit, I thought they were for beating people around the head if they get to close to your broms, only kidding he he. I did picture you using them for pushing the mix down but can see how they would be handy to use around spikey broms also. Thanks also for explaining the brushes you use; I will have to get some of those next time I am in Bunnings’.

Nev thanks pleased to hear you liked the look of my Neo. ‘Cane Fire’, it is my first pup and I am so very pleased with how well it is doing and when I took those random pics it caught my attention like it usually does and I had to take a progress pic.

Nev what a fantastic lot of pics you posted, it was like being in a candy store looking at all those broms everywhere and being surrounded by that wonderful rainbow of colour would be amazing as they are everywhere. It made me take a deep breath and totally relaxed me after a hard day’s work looking at all that wonderful colour and seeing how well you care for them and grow them to perfection always puts a huge smile on my face because I can see how much joy you get out of growing them and that warms my heart because you are so passionate about them and I can totally understand why. I also really liked your Pic 4 of Neo. ‘Thunderbird’ x ‘Reins Pride’ as its colour is truly stunning.

Hi Shirley what a bugger you are experiencing problems with DG but great that you kept trying as I always luv hearing what you have been up to and seeing all your beautiful brom pics. Hopefully you have better luck next time when you try.

Anyway time to put the kettle on.

Hi to anyone looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

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works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 27, 2013
6:33 AM

Post #9717413

Hi everyone,

I just can't believe my post disappeared overnight.

Nev, I tried everything I could think of to make that 'choose file' come up. I refreshed the screen (several times), I previewed my post and arrowed back (that has worked before) and logged off and on a few times as well, it just wouldn't appear, then the entire post apparently vanished.

Love all the pics, so many lovely broms.

Trish, your garden looks absolutely stunning.

Hi to everyone else looking in.

My pics are 1 - neo Cockabel, pic 2 - neo Shelldance, pic 3 - neo Fairytale, pic 4 - neo Red River, pic 5 - neo Pink Debbie, a little on the burnt side, unfortunately

Bye for now, Shirley


PS My post had all sorts of funny symbols in it, it was barely legible. I think the problem is actually with Microsoft rather than DG. If you type straight into DG, there's no problem, it's when you copy and past from Word that it goes weird.






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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 27, 2013
12:32 PM

Post #9717614

Hi everyone (or should I just say Trish and Shirley) � Also a big cheerio to anyone who's on the sick list, hurry up and get better soon, we miss you.

I wonder why there's not as many posting lately; could it be because of the �bugs� in the DG system and people are getting sick of the site because of that, (I know Sue's fed up with all the DG problems she's had). Please everyone, give it another chance as it would be a shame to let this friendly little forum die.

Thursday once again. Where has the week gone? I'm giving the museum a miss today and concentrating on catching up on my brom work instead. It seems that every time I start to make any headway I get some interruption so by not going today, that will give me 5 straight days to get a bit more done.

Trish � It seems like I have a �cranky (I won't say old) woman� on the soap box beside me who doesn't like the Americanisation of everything we seem to do in this country lately either. Vote 1 for Nev for Prime Minister and I'll see that it stops.

It's only very early days yet with the new physio. treatment but I can see some very subtle changes just during the past few days and although I'm hopeful, I'm still not getting my expectations too high.

I can't take any credit for the idea of �potting sticks�; I was shown this by an old English nurseryman when I was a kid. He told me when he was a nurseryman in England they normally used three different sizes and they had a slight taper on them so that the bit you held was thicker. I knew a few Cattleya and Dendrobium orchid growers who used them all the time , especially when we first started using �Fir Bark� as a potting medium as it was easier to pack it in around the roots with the aid of a potting stick. The technique was to always only just pack around the inside rim of the pot. This forced the potting medium toward the centre and packed it firmly around the roots with out damaging them. A lot of people find it awkward, but it works for me and a few of my friends so give it a try as you won't know if it works for you if you don't.

Without blowing my own trumpet to loudly I must agree that those pic's did have some nice coloured plants in them. Unfortunately this is the only part of my yard that gets the amount of light required to make good colour. All of my other plants are very mediocre in colour and won't start to show any real colour until more into summer when they get better light, and then all too soon it's winter again, the good light's gone and it's back to green. I'll just have to do more sorting and just bring the very best plants up to this area so they get the benefit of the good light.

The object of crossing Neo.'Thunderbird' (Pic.1) with Neo.'Rien's Pride' (Pic.2) was to combine the attractive red fingernails of the Rien's Pride with the intense cup colour of the Thunderbird. The particular plant I posted yesterday seems to be the only one in the grex where I have achieved this so far. It's only a small plant about 10� across like both parents but so far everyone who has seen it comments on it. Unfortunately the camera doesn't capture the true colour of the �fingernails� which seem to �glow�.

You've posted some great shots of your brom garden again and straight away I spy a �ring in� among the Neo's in your first pic. (the variegated one just up from the bottom on the right). It looks like one of the better Ae. lueddemmania c.v's maybe Ae. 'Alvarez'? There were some beautifully coloured cultivated varieties came from Ae. lueddemania, such as 'Alvarez', 'Rodco', 'Rodco' inverta (with reverse coloured foliage to Rodco), 'Pinkie', 'MEND' and 'MEND� inverta (with reverse coloured foliage to MEND) There's also an interesting story on the BCR about how the name 'MEND' came about, see below:
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=AECHMEA&id=359#359

It's interesting that although each of your garden pic's is full of great plants with beautiful colours, in each pic there is one plant that just stands out above the rest. I guess that's why we all have collections.

Shirley � I think it's time you dropped DG a line and tell them of the problems you are having; I know it's a pain in the bum having to do this, but if they don't know there's a problem they can't try to fix it.

I've had posts disappear on me before as have many of our other members, that's why we started typing our post out in Word first and then cutting and pasting; but it's still annoying when you have to keep cutting and pasting each time the post disappears.

I've been getting those funny symbols you speak of for over a week now, I have reported it and have had a couple of lots of feedback from DG and I'll know this morning when I post this if it's fixed or not. You suggested the problem may actually be with Microsoft rather than DG. I initially thought along those lines as well so I started typing my posts on �Open Office� instead of �Microsoft Word� but the same thing happened. Maybe it's happening with all programs external to DG.

Another nice collection of pic's you've posted this morning again. They are all nice and although Neo.'Shelldance' is a plant I've never really fancied, I can't help admire it's beautiful colour and the clean lines of your well grown plant. The other one that really catches my eye is Neo.'Pink Debbie'; I've never seen nor heard of this one before but the attractive soft colours and shape on what appears to still be a young plant are very promising. I have one just called Neo.'Debbie' which is a nice medium sized brom albeit nothing like the one shown on the BCR so maybe mine could be a NOID.

My pic's today are Pic.1 Neo.'Thunderbird', Pic.2 Neo.'Rien's Pride' (both the parents of the seedling I posted a pic of yesterday), Pic.3 Neo.'Takemura' x 'Silverado' just starting to colour, and Pic's. 4 and 5, more of Ground Zero�.

All the best, Nev.

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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 27, 2013
1:26 PM

Post #9717653

Hello all.I am able to do bit more now that hubby is able to be getting around more.
I potted a few new broms and moved a few more around.
I am nearly done with listing all the broms. I will then not only know what I have , but where they all are, as I have used a code for different areas next to the names.
I am slowly starting to recognise some as I learned with the irises. You get used to talking to them each day so learn who is who.

I havent had any trouble with DG for a long time . I type straight into DG as I would be lost trying to cut and paste.
Nev , thank you for the ID on my bill as Hoelscheriana. Mine looks exactly like the pics on the BCR.
Such a pretty blue on the petal edges along with the bright red on the flower stems.
I have 2 of them , both with pups coming.

Your Riens Pride is a very pretty brom . The color does seem to glow.
I like the large bill front right next to the pole in your pic 5.
Very nice contrast with the green and spots..
That trolley of bills looking for a home could meander down here and all make themselves comfortable...lol

Shirley, that neo Fairytale is lovely .
We both do like the purples.
Your Neo Shelldance is very dainty looking with that pale centre to the leaves.
Mine is still very green in the leaf centres, but gaining some good color to the edges.
Your neo Cockabel is another lovely one.
Hope all is well up your way .

Trish, Nev is quite right, there is always one brom saying 'look at me ' in the pics of massed plants. Your pics show some real beauties.

After a very warm day yesterday, it is quite cool here after a lot of thunder last evening.
No rain as yet but its pleasant to be out.
The broms must wonder what goes on with the weather down here as it seems we are always bouncing between a warm day then a few cold ones .

Nev, my vr Megan is still small but I will show it your pic so it knows what to grow into...lol

Off to water a bit and have a chat with the plants.

Take care everyone and I hope all who are not well, soon feel better.
Take care of your back Nev. I know how it feels.

pic 1 . my vr Megan...i hope she looks as great as yours later, Nev

pic 2...neo Pink Pearl.. a pretty, I couldnt resist.

pic 3...aech Xavante...one I have wanted for a while.

Jean.




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Merino
Australia

November 27, 2013
3:29 PM

Post #9717730

Had to pop back in and show the new brom I just received.
It was very very cheap on eBay, just listed as bromeliad.
I liked the look of it , thinking it looked like some sort of guzmania.
When it arrived, there was a label ...till leiboldiana variegated.
On looking it up , I am so pleased I bought it.
So very pretty and unusual.
Jean.

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

November 27, 2013
8:36 PM

Post #9717861

A big G'day to everyone. Back home again, drove in late yesterday afternoon. Went through over 100 kms of torrential rain and expected some flooding at home. But only 19mm in the gauge, later in the evening totalled only 26mm. Alessia ramped up again yesterday but in the Gulf of Carpentaria. During the night it crossed the coast again near Borroloola. It's expected to do a bit of a loop and then start heading back to us, possibly arriving early next week and redeveloping. So, looks like it's after a third bite of the cherry.

With back issues, strengthening the muscles can go a long way to relieving the problem. It's one of the 3 strategies I use. Another is a thin mattress (50mm maximum) on a hard surface. Soft mattresses play havoc with my back. And the third is to sleep with a pillow between my legs. I was a bit skeptical when that was first suggested, but it worked out really well. Of course, it's a matter of horses for courses, not everything works for everyone. But these have worked really well for me, so far.

That Guzmania looks a bit like one I got recently, "Bernies Gold".

Onto the photos, this brom changed colour on me. Can't remember where I bought it and certainly don't remember any name for it. First photo is earlier this year, second is today. Third photo is one of the locals here, Darwin Carpet Python.

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ianperry

November 28, 2013
2:42 AM

Post #9717912

Hi all, we have been having some domestic crap here for the last week and it has kept me away from the computer as much as I would like to be on it. Tonight I am relaxing with Smokey and the Bandit III I had a quick read and like the pics that I saw.
I type in on DG and don't seem to be having too many problems. Sometimes yes but not that often. The quotqtion marks seem to be causing additional markings on peoples writings, well that is what I am observing.
Have a good one
Ian
Pic 1 Ae Orlianda Black One
Pic 2 Neo Aussie Dream Gracel
Pic 3 Neo Ice White River
Pic 4 Neo Roys Special MJP
Pic 5 Neo Vulcan X Spot On
" See ya tomorra"

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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 28, 2013
3:19 AM

Post #9717922

Hi Everyone!

Hi Shirley pleased to see you posting again without DG troubles as well as being able to attach pics once again of your beautiful broms. Can I please ask what your secret with your Neo ‘Shelldance’ is, it looks fantastic? Mine looks exhausted at the moment but it is pupping all over so I suppose that could be part reason why other than it never looked that fantastic when I got it in the post as a pup so I hope the pups its producing show some promise? Neo. ‘Fairytale’ is gorgeous also, one that always catches my eye, I think I brought a pup a couple of months ago; I will have to check and see if I did and if it has grown?

Hi Nev like you I too (secretly) have been worrying about this little forum dying but am going to keep doing my utmost best to keep posting as often as I can to help keep it alive like everyone else who is trying and hopefully some of the old gang come back and join in again. I don’t do Facebook, this is pretty much the only forum I am on and pretty much all that time permits for me working a fulltime job. I reckon it’s a great forum and the glitches with DG do not bother me too much because I don’t think it’s really that bad an issue as they do not happen all the time just sometimes and then before you know it they are fixed and like you say Nev it is just a matter of sending them an email if one is experiencing any issues.

Nev I hope your get heaps done over the 5 days in your garden and among your broms, that’s a good straight run to have up your sleeve. Hopefully I get the same sort of straight run over the Christmas break, too early to tell though just yet with how busy we are. Make the most of it while you can Nev because I am Voting 1 for Nev for Prime Minister regarding the “Soap Box” topic we had the other day – yes I am cranky middle aged woman when it comes to this topic so you may want me as your Deputy Prime Minister as I reckon we would make a good team he he.

Nev thanks I will have to give those potting sticks a go as well as Joe with his orchids.

Nev you commented on one of the Aechmeas’ in my Pic 1, I have this one tagged (as when brought) as ‘Rodco’ inverta. I have two of these big plants; the one in this pic is just starting to pup so the mother is starting to lose its lust. The other plant has produced 7 pups so far but is close to its end now. They so make a big beautiful statement in the garden as well as the gorgeous lilac/mauve flower spike they get, one that I will always want in my collection. Thanks for the BCR link that I have printed so I can have a read over the weekend.

Nev thanks for showing pics of Neo. ‘Thunderbird’ and Neo. ‘Rien’s Pride’ both the parents of the lovely seedling you posted pics of the other day, what a wonderful outcome from crossing the two as that seedling is gorgeous. I also really liked the look of your Pic 3 Neo. ‘Takemura’ x ‘Silverado’ just starting to colour and would luv to see a pic of it when it has fully flowered as in my eye’s it’s a stunner now without it being in flower. I also really liked Pic 4 & Pic 5 of Ground Zero, truly breathtaking in your face colour.

Hi Jean pleased to hear your hubby is getting around more, that is positive to hear and I am sure he would be getting a little stir crazy not being able to get around like usual. Also pleased to hear that you are getting back into some sort of routine as there is always plenty to be done around the place. Also great to hear you are nearly finished listing all your broms, boy you have been busy.

Jean I am like you I catch myself talking to my broms every now and then when I am strolling through the garden where I stop in my tracks when one catches my attention, I normally lean over and touch it and catch myself saying out loud “What a beautiful brom you are”, I wonder what the neighbours think – oh well too bad.

Jean lovely pics you posted, especially luved Vr. ‘Megan’ with it’s pretty tips full of colour. Jean that is a pretty new brom you just got in the mail, I have not seen that one before, it’s really nice and does have a Guz’ look about it.

Hi Tropicbreeze great to hear you are back home but in saying so I hope the bad weather stays away from you and that you keep safe and well. Great advice also on the back issue topic, I will have to try the pillow between the legs to see if it helps my back, but I know we need a better mattress as ours is getting a bit long in the tooth now. Not too sure what your brom NOID is but hopefully someone here will know, it’s a pretty shade of pink though. Nice Darwin Carpet Python too, we get our fair share of Python’s here (Scrub and Diamond Back), they don’t worry me I like them but if one is in our yard we relocate them because of our dogs over the fence into the wetlands where they should live.

Hi Ian great pics, especially liked Pic 4 Neo. ‘Roy’s Special MJP’.

Anyway time to hit the sack.

Hi to anyone looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

Sorry no pics tonight, I will endevour to upload some tomorrow night.
perke_patch

November 28, 2013
3:20 AM

Post #9717923

hi everyone.
sorry I haven't been on to fulfil any promises I've made. Nev I located our ae Mexicana pups but alas they are big enough to flower so too big to post. I've asked everyone I know to see if I could find a smaller pup to send but everyone is in the same boat as me and theirs are big also. found someone with one flowering now so should have pups soon. sorry about that.

I haven't had much time on the computer lately. I seem to get tied up with helping Hayden do homework most nights now and he often has to use the computer too so no TV and no computer for me till after he goes to bed. then it's a quick check and off to bed. most days we've been spending with my mother-in-law who is close to the end. we were called in at 6am last weekend and I raced home at 10am to change and be ready for Jen to pick me up for the Gold Coast broms society meeting. Johnny stayed all day. when I got home we went back again thinking it was close. GUESS WHAT!!!!!! she's still going but only just. so every day we've been round there spending time with her. yesterday she was crying and wanting to go home so we all told her to go but she's still here. we duck home for an hour or so and do some potting or taking pups off or something then back again to see how she is. so not much time for everyday things. Although I will say I've started going to the pool every morning after school run. I'm doing aqua aerobics or gym or simply laps for an hour then home to go to the nursing home. I'm hungry all the time and tired early at night so often in bed earlier than normal. I'll try to catch up on the reading over the weekend and will organise any posts I've promised. Off to bed early now.
perke_patch

November 28, 2013
3:25 AM

Post #9717924

Jean your new plant reminds me of tillandsia lieboniana variegated but it could be a variegated guzmania too. nice one though. I have lots of till lieboniana now and I must start putting them out on the sales tabes. I just don't think about it till too late. a couple are flowering now so maybe some more pups soon.
perke_patch

November 28, 2013
3:50 AM

Post #9717927

Hi again. just reading back upwards and wanted to add that neo kika is a big grower and can take full sun. I bought some pups off a lady who grows them in her husbands trucking company yard in full sun. ours are grown where they get good morning sun shade from the tree above then more afternoon sun. they colour up so well.

no button for posting a pic tonight so I can't share. love all those funny symbols you guys were getting a few days ago. trying to decipher is so much fun isn't it?. can get the gist of what you were all saying though.

Must be off to bed now though. early start in the morning dropping kids off at school then off to the hospital for an early appointment. should find out what the infection was in Johnny's lungs a while back. although it seems better now after they drained it all out. he just has to get over another flare up of gout and we'll be back to normal again. we've been taking off lots and lots of pups and I'm potting them all up. trays of newly potted plants everywhere but still more boxes of pups waiting to be attended to. will all the time at the nursing home we'll get to them before Christmas I hope. LOL
Night everyone.
Wendy

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 28, 2013
5:59 AM

Post #9718072

Hi everyone,

Its good to see so many posts, it got kind of quiet there for a while. I am going to leave out any punctuation that causes funny symbols on DG as its easier than going back after posting and fixing them.

I like to do my posts in Word, not only because its less likely to disappear but also because I have dual monitors and I can read DG on one screen while I type up my post on the other, makes it much easier to respond to individual posts and saves lots of to-ing and fro-ing.

Jean, glad to hear your hubby is able to get around more. Your broms are getting some nice colour now that you are getting some sunshine. Your new brom looks very nice, I thought it looked like a guz until I googled till leiboldiana, you made a good buy.

tropicbreeze, I hope you don't get any damage from Alessia if she returns.

Looking at the pic of your Carpet python reminded me of my mad panic yesterday when our Molly came running to me with a snake about a metre long in her mouth. She was so pleased with herself and really hypo. I tried to get her to drop it, but she was having no part of that. She was shaking it violently and ended up killing it but I didnt know what type of snake it was and whether it had bitten her so I was frantically running around after her.

Anyway, round one to Molly, either it didnt bite her or it wasn't venomous. She is fine but I was something of a cot case for a couple of hours afterwards.

Ian, hope your domestic situation has sorted itself out and we get to see more of your posts.

Trish, I think I must have a good clone of neo Shelldance as I dont do anything special but it is in very strong light. It has only ever produced one pup which looked very similar to Mum so I am hoping I get a few more from her. Speaking of pups, that reminds me I have a question for you all ...

I know that fertilizing can make neos turn green, what I am wondering is can it cause loss of variegation as well. I have a number of my nicely variegated neos producing novar pups. I did fertilize them quite heavily when they flowered in the hope of getting lots of nice pups. The mature neos did not turn green but I seem to be getting a lot of pups with very little or no variegation, do you think could be the result of excessive fertilizer.

On another subject - Nev, if I vote for you as Prime Minister and for Trish as Deputy Prime Minister, can I please be Treasurer. Maybe we could line up the rest of the DG crew and make them all pollies, wouldnt that be interesting!!!

Wendy, good to see you dropping in, sounds like youre very busy these days. Hope you get good news at the hospital tomorrow.

Hi to everyone else, its almost the weekend again. Some vriesea pics

Pic 1 Vr Franklin Forest F2, pic 2 Vr Bullion, pic 3 Vr Fenestralis x Megan, pic 4 Vr Big Mal, pic 5 Vr Red Dragon

Bye for now, Shirley


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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 28, 2013
11:33 AM

Post #9718209

Hi Everyone!

Pics as promised that I did not get to attach last night:

Pic 2 & 3 look like a bunch of green broms but looking at them above the colour coming out in them is the total opossite.

Sorry no time to chat as off to work I go.

Cheers

Trish

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 28, 2013
1:24 PM

Post #9718236

Hi everyone � I hope everyone is fit and well and hopefully those who aren't will soon be back to good health once again. Hi also to anyone who we haven't seen for a while and hopefully we'll see you back posting again soon.

My plans for yesterday went a bit astray as I had intended cleaning and re-potting the remainder of my Billbergias, however during my morning �walk around� I noticed a couple of Neo's that needed attention and as I looked more closely I found a few more.

As I walked around I also found some Nidulariums that hadn't been cleaned up for a while which then led me to some Canistropsis, firstly my favourite, 'Citron' then the 'Persimmon', 'Pink' and 'Apricot' forms. It was then I remembered I had several other colours and decided to start looking for them with the intention of keeping them all together but after looking for a while, decided that was a job to go on the �to do list� for later so I picked up the plants I had chosen for cleaning up and took them up to the garage to work on and that's what I ended up doing for the remainder of the day.

Jean � Glad to hear hubby is getting around a bit more it will certainly make life easier for both of you.

I haven't got around to talking to my brom's yet, but I know a lady in our brom society who grows magnificent Tillandsias and xNeophytums and she credits their beauty to the fact that she talks to them daily. I'm afraid if I talked to my brom's they might abuse me for not keeping more up to date with the re-potting requirements.

I'm not sure of the name of the Bill you are referring to, but I have a few different greens with with white spotting as I find like you say, they make a nice contrast.

Your Neo. 'Pink Pearl' is a nice coloured little brom and one I haven't seen before, but it's one of Chester Skotaks and comes from great parents (carolinae x concentrica) x 'Takemura. It was registered by Olive Trevor so it's probably one she imported.

Ae. 'Xavante' was for a long time called Ae nudicaulis rubra prior to it being registered as Xavante. There's quite an interesting history about it and several nice pictures to be seen at:
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=AECHMEA&id=623#623
So for anyone reading this who has a plant called Ae nudicaulis rubra or var. rubra, please change the name to Ae. 'Xavante'.

That's also a nice little variegated Tillandsia leiboldiana you managed to snare Jean. It comes in many different forms; two that come to mind are the pendulous form and the spotted foliage form. I only have a couple of the plain ones, but they are still nice interesting little plants. There is a good collection on the FCBS site in the Tillandsia species section at: http://www.fcbs.org/pictures.htm

Tropicbreeze � Good to see you back again. It certainly look like �Alessia � isn't finished with you yet so best battern down the hatches once more.

It's interesting what you say about sleeping with the pillow between your legs (I assume you sleep on your side). Obviously when we stand the knees are apart but if we sleep on our side they are often together, and when you think about it, this must throw something out of its natural alignment. I must mention it to the physio bloke when I go for my next treatment and see what he has to say. This could be the root of all my back problems as I've slept on my side all of my life...Interesting.

Although there are miniature variegated Guzmanias, and Jean's plant certainly looks like one at first glances, it's a Tillandsia and not a �Guzzie� at all. The plant you speak of looks to be a standard size Guzmania not a miniature, and is a product from of the giant Netherlands Corn Bak nursery. It's a wonderful plant with beautiful crimson bracts which seem to last forever. There's some great pic's at: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=GUZMANIA&id=11179#11179

Your Neo. seemed to be in full colour in your first pic., and the second pic shows it in decline after flowering and getting ready to produce pups (hopefully lots of them) as it's a nice Neo.

I also like the local friend that just �dropped in�, they have amazing colours which act as wonderful camouflage.

Ian � From what I've observed with DG is that there doesn't seem to be a problem typing directly onto the site if it's just a short post, but when you write a book like some of us do, that's when it seems to �eat� the post. Is it a �built in deterrent� to keep us from writing long posts? The problem seems to be with most of the punctuation marks and I've also notice that each time you preview or edit your post the symbols seem to double in number.

Nice pic's you've posted today Ian, seeing your orlandiana reminds me that I noticed a few of mine starting to colour up nicely and hopefully this year I won't forget to take pic's of them. Your Neo's. Aussie Dream Grace, Ice White River and Vulcan x Spot On are all nice plants but it's the Neo 'Roy's Special' MJP that catches my eye and gets my vote today. Just one question, what does the MJP stand for? Could it be Margaret (?) Patterson as it was a Ford hybrid registered by Margaret Patterson. I have found 'Roy's Special' to be a bit unstable like a lot of variegated plants, but it's a beautiful plant nevertheless. There's pic's of some great examples on the Bromeliad Cultivar Register at:
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=6895#6895

Trish � I seem to have the same type of thing happening with my Neo.'Shelldance' as you; it never looks anything special but keeps producing heaps of pups. Maybe it thinks it's dying and that's why the excess pup production or maybe it's because of all the pup production that it never looks anything special...A bit like a dog chasing its tail.

I must say I have been a bit worried about this forum, but looking at today's effort it seems that everything's OK again after all, and it's great to see all the posts once more.

I've had second thoughts about standing for Prime Minister when I realised the criteria is that you need to tell lots of lies, can't lie straight in bed and never keep your promises; this goes against everything I've ever learned; sorry, but you'll have to find another candidate.

When I said your plant looked like Ae. 'Alvarez' it was based on comparing it with one of the pic's on the FCBS site not the BCR as the pic on there is terrible. I don't know Ae. Rodco Inverta and there's no pic's on either site to compare to, so the name you have may well be correct. Incidently, I wouldn't mind swapping for a pup from yours when you get a spare looking for a good home.

Wendy � No sweat about the Ae. mexicana pup Wendy as Sue sent me one and I've been able to make one �Brom Lady� a very happy grower with a gift she wasn't expecting.

I can understand what a busy day you must have with the school run, swimming, gym, nursing home and then home to do the grandson's homework. It doesn't leave a lot of time for anything else. I'm glad to hear Johnny is feeling a bit better (except for the gout) and hopefully once that's under control again everything will be back to normal.

You mentioned about Kiko doing well in the sun. I found that was apparent from Ian's pic when I compared it with mine which was grown in low light as I had been advised; it just goes to show you can't trust all growers to give you accurate information can you?

Shirley � I like your idea of dual monitors, that would certainly save a lot of swapping from post to post, it would be great if I had someone here that was smart enough to hook mine up that way as I have about four spare monitors (I think they are breeding in the cupboard, just like the wire coat hangers) � all I need is the know-how.

I think what you say about having a good clone of Shelldance is pretty true as I've seen a few of them indifferent grower's collections and at brom meetings and shows, and yours is by far the best I've seen.

As for your fertilising turning your variegated pups into non-variegated plants, I guess it is possible for this to happen until all of the nitrogen in the fertiliser is used up. As the mother would still be drawing the fertiliser from the mix to help her feed the pups until they get a root system of their own, I guess you have the same result as if the pups were soaking up the fertiliser themselves. A lot depends on the NPK of the fertiliser used and whether it was a 3, 6 or 9 month type. We are told that high Nitrogen will turn the coloured leaves green that's why it's better to stick with a low Nitrogen and high Potassium mix. What was the fertiliser you used and what was the NPK? If you can tell us this we will all learn from your experience.

It is possible for variegated plants to occasionally throw a NOVAR pup, but from what you say this is happening to more than the occasional one and this certainly points me in the direction of the fertiliser as being the culprit and not simply a one off pup reverting.

Unfortunately I don't think your idea of the DG crew all becoming politicians would work; this is based on the reasons I gave above, and besides we all know that brom growers are such �nice people� and not lying bast..ds like the majority of politicians.

That's a nice collection of Vrieseas you have there Shirley and looking at your Vr. fenestralis x Megan reminded me that I noticed yesterday that I have a seedling I got from Allan Ladd which is Vr. racinae x Vr. Fenestralis.

I had forgotten I had it, and when I dragged it out I wasn't all that impressed as although it has inherited the recurved leaves of Vr. fenestralis it is just a boring bright green colour without any pattern. What did catch my eye though is that it does have three flower spikes which are covered in brown spots. When I looked up the Vr. racinae on the FCBS species index I see that it has unusual white flowers which are quite attractive, so I now wait in anticipation.

Sorry no pic's today as I've run out of time.

All the best, Nev.
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 28, 2013
1:28 PM

Post #9718238

Hello everyone. Its a sunny morning here but lots of cloud around. Yesterday was nice and mild so I finished listing all my broms.
Now I can see where they all are and what I have.
I am hoping to sell some of the pups in a week or two.
I will put an ad in the Hamilton paper for broms as lovely Christmas presents.
I am a bit far out of town so I wont be surprised if noone comes.
I advertised a garage sale once and had not a single person come.

Different to when I used to do garage sales and plant sales years ago. My friend & I would drive all over the countryside looking at bargains.
I suppose the petrol prices have a lot to do with people not wanting to get out & about.

Ian, I hope you had a relaxing time with Smokey & the Bandit.
Domestic problems can be very tiring. Hope it all clears up for you.
I do like your neo Aussie Dream Grace.

Tropic Breeze, hope the cyclone up there decides to go back to the ocean. Not nice of it to come back for another go.
I love your python. I didnt see any when I was up that way . Its very pretty and I wouldnt mind it living in my greenhouse.

Trish, I am afraid I use some of the spellings of the Yanks.
I could never see why we have so many words containing useless letters.
The U in color , flavor etc. re instead of er at the end of words.
Lots of silly Old English spellings .
When you look at our language, I often wonder how anyone understood what was being written, but then I suppose most people didnt read or write way back when.
It was the higher ups who decided on spelling etc
Lovely garden pics. I do like the large ,pretty pink in your pic 2.

Wendy, hope all goes well for Johnny. Hopefully he will be given a clean bill of health and life can return to normal. Sad about your M-I-L and we had the same thing with hubbys mum years ago when she lingered.
Enjoy some relaxing time with all those brom pups.

Shirley, yes, I am very happy with my new brom. It is only about 10" high so a bit small to have been a guz. I couldnt tell by the pic in the listing but I liked the look of it.
I now have it hanging in the greenhouse. I had an old piece of dead elkhorn on a piece of styrofoam, so I added a bit of coconut fibre and orchid mix in behind and put the plant in there.
It has roots so has been potted before.
Those are some lovely vrieseas in your pics particularly Red Dragon.

Nev, I will be posting those echium seeds off to you next week.
The seed heads are now drying off. nicely. Just dump the lot in some place out of the way and soon you will see a heap of little plants coming up.
Dont be surprised if you see nothing for a while as often they just sit and wait for the next growing season . I have heaps coming up from last year. They are easily controlled, pulling out easily. They transplant easily too so can be moved to where you want them.

Time I went out and enjoyed the sun .

pic 1... new neo Sunday Picnic

pic 2...love the color coming on this one..neo eleuthropetala

Jean.







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bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 29, 2013
3:44 AM

Post #9718396

Hi Everyone!

Thought I would put the kettle on early this time and kick back with a nice cup of coffee as just got through reading all the great posts and looking at everyone’s beautiful pics so now it’s time to kick back and reply – oh and I forgot to say Yeah the weekends finally here HORAYH!!!

Hi Wendy fantastic to see you posting. Sorry to hear your Mother-in-law is not well, such a stressful time for you all at the moment and so much going on all the time for you. Pleased to hear you are still doing your aqua aerobics or gym that’s fantastic to hear as that gives you a bit of timeout which would be doing you the world of good as well as I am sure you are really enjoying the exercise. I hope Johnny is feeling much better, pleased to hear he has been keeping busy with you potting up pups, it’s fantastic that you both share the same interest/addiction with broms as an extra pair of hands around broms would come in handy, I have to wait for mum to visit next year for this to happen he he.

Hi Shirley I will have to see how my Neo. ‘Shelldance’ is doing on the weekend, now that I think about it, I think I have two mothers out there purchased from the same seller, but would be interested to see how they are doing as I have them growing in different parts of the garden and I remember one being rattier than the other he he.

Shirley I have never had fertiliser take the variegation out of my broms but it sounds possible and it will be interesting to hear the feedback you receive on the topic?

Shirley he he, it looks like it’s only you and me with you Treasurer and me Deputy Prime Minister as Nev has done a runner on us as Prime Minister so back to square one or maybe we should go back to playing with our broms he he.

Shirley what beautiful Vrieseas you have, they are gorgeous and I could not pick a favourite understandably as I adore Vrieseas as you know.

Hi Nev ah so your Neo. ‘Shelldance’ is giving you grief also; maybe we should send ours over to Aunty Shirley for a talking to as Shirley definitely has the magic touch with them. I am going to check progress on the two I have somewhere outside and see how they are going and hopefully shake some life back into them somehow?

Nev yes it’s so great to see so many people posting again here – yeah good job everyone!!!

Nev I will have to look up Ae. ‘Alvarez’ on the FCBS site as I have not had a chance to look yet. As for Ae. ‘Rodco Inverta’, mine are pupping very well so by all means I will keep one aside for you and send you one when big enough. Which reminds me Shirley how is the one I sent you doing, is it colouring up well?

Hi Jean I am sure I use some of the spelling of the Yanks also, it is so easy to do isn’t it like you say he he. The pretty pink brom you asked about in Pic 2 is Neo. ‘Purple Star’ is getting on a bit but yet to pup. I remember when I first brought this one from the seller they had over-fertilised it and it was not until a week later that all the leaves starting to look really horrible but the seller had told me they buggered up and discounted the price of the brom and I did not mind because I really wanted the brom and within about 8 months it was looking beautiful once again and was well worth the wait. Jean nice pics of your brom and I totally agree how nice your Neo. Eleuthropetala is colouring up.

Getting a few drops of rain here and there which is nice and the frogs are singing off and on as it comes and goes which is funny to hear.

Hi to anyone looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening!

Trish

I will post pics tomorrow sometime...
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 29, 2013
1:39 PM

Post #9718625

Hello everyone.
Great reading this morning. Love all the pics .

Trish, maybe your pretty Purple Star needs some viagra to pup...lol

I like the look of the leaves on aech Alvarez and Rodco Inverta with the green instead of white edges.
Its interesting how one parent like aech leuddemanniana can produce many variations.

I have 3 aech Mends here , all different to each other but no green edges.

Looking through all my aechmea photos, I find my only variegate with green on the edges is my aech Reverse Ensign.
There are a couple of neos with the green edges, like neo Prinsler.
If anyone has an aech with the green edging, I would love a pup if one is available.

Nev, you will have to learn to talk to your plants.
I often find myself telling some plant it is looking lovely or not growing as it should. Anyone coming into my yard would think I was a dotty old lady...lol
I also chat to the birds and other creatures around the garden.
Nev, I had a look at those tills and I do like the white leiboldiana on there.
I see they are all in pots and mine has roots and looks like it may have been in a pot.
I have it hanging as the pic below shows.
Should I have potted it ? I thought tills liked to be mounted and not potted.

The sun is out but the wind is cold. I will maybe do abit inside the greenhouse. I am putting up the retic hose with sprays for the summer.

Hubby bought me a rooted cutting of a frangipani which is going to live in the greenhouse.
I was admiring them and he said try one as they were only cheap.
I'll see how it likes living down here. I have seen them growing well outside in Melbourne.

Better move as hubby needs a hand .
Enjoy your day everyone.

pics 1..2 & 3 are my aech Mend plants...all slightly different to each other in their green markings.

pic 4 .. the new till leiboldiana variegate in a piece of old dead elkhorn .

Jean.







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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 29, 2013
1:40 PM

Post #9718626

Hi everyone - Or should I just say Trish and Jean as it seems like everyone else has worn themselves out with all the posts yesterday. At least we know they're all still around and haven't deserted us for Face Book. But it seems like we shouldn't have complemented them all for posting yesterday as it seems to have sent them all into hiding again.

Trish - Sorry I must have missed those pics you posted yesterday, (thinking about too many other things I have to do).

What you say about looking at the Neo's from the side and just seeing all green is very true as is viewing them when they are hanging. Neo's must be viewed from above to appreciate the true colour and I found this out recently when I was renovating that bench and I took some of the hanging plants down and put them, on the bench only to see colours that hadn't been previously visible. I guess we hang these pups up to save space and before we know it they have matured and are coloured up themselves...(Note to Nev. keep a closer watch on pups hanging in the shade house)

What is the Nidularium in Pic.4? I have this one out in flower also and it's just listed as NOID.

Jean - You're worried that people mightn't come to your sale due to being out of town so why don't you sell some by mail order? There are free sites on the net now where you can advertise and one of the very popular ones is called "Gum Tree". See below for more details:
http://www.gumtree.com.au

I'll look forward to the arrival of the echium seeds and thanks for the complicated cultural instructions Ha! Ha! (I think even I should be able to grow them)

I'll bet you can't wait until that pup of Neo. 'Sunday Picnic' matures; it's a beautiful brom from the breeding stables of Sharon Peterson of Hawaii.

Also, did you know that the species Neo. eleutheropetala is the proud parent of seven registered Neo hybrids, including four quite unusual ones; 'Brown Recluse', 'Pink Spider', 'Morona' and the beautiful Chester Skotak hybrid of 'Ludicrous'. See:
http://registry.bsi.org/index.php?fields=Parents&id=3374&search=eleutheropetala

Trish - Sorry for deserting you and Shirley in the political race, but when I thought it through I realised I don't have enough time for my brom's now and that would give me even less.

Thanks for putting my name down for a pup of your Ae. 'Rodco Inverta', I'm always interested in the unusual ones to add to my collection.

Your mention to Jean about Neo.'Purple Star' prompts me to comment about it also; it's a beautiful plant and one on my favourite's list, but unfortunately it's also one of those that is very hard to capture its true colour with a camera. I've posted a pic of one of mine for comparison and although nowhere near as large as your plant it still has that nice colour.

That's it for today and I know it's a brom site, but I couldn't resist showing a couple of pic's of our two new "grand-kids" (Pic's 1 and 2). Pic.3 is my Neo Purple Star, Pic.4 one of the many xNiduregelia 'Something Special' hybrids which were cross-pollinated with (I don't know what) by (I don't know whom) and Pic.5 is xNiduregelia 'Something Special' which appears to be pregnant again judging by all of those nice fat seeds capsules.

All the best, Nev.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 29, 2013
1:58 PM

Post #9718636

Back again - I missed your post by 1 minute Jean. I think it's probably better if I don't talk to my plants as I talk to myself enough and anyone overhearing me would think I'm "a shingle short of a roof". If they heard me talking to my plants also it would just confirm what they already suspect.

Regarding your question about your Till. leiboldiana, as I've said before I'm not very knowledgeable when it come to Till's, but to explain it simply, as I understand it they come basically in two different types the green leaf ones such as your Till. leiboldiana (even though it is variegated) and the more common and much smaller ones with the silver/grey coloured foliage which are often referred to as "Air Plants". As I understand it the silver leafed ones are usually mounted and green leafed ones are usually grown in pots (but that's not to say they won't grow mounted also, it's something you would have to read up on as I can't be definite)

They're nice MEND plants you have there, have you read on the BCR how they determined their name? Quite an interesting read.

All the best, Nev.
77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 29, 2013
5:53 PM

Post #9718735

Thank you Nev.
I have the little till in a bit of orchid mix behind the old elkhorn leaf.
That should keep it happy .
Sometimes one looks at a plant name and thinks , now where did that name come from...
I like to read how many of our broms got their unusual names.
Jean.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 30, 2013
1:13 AM

Post #9718811

Hi Everyone!

Not a whole lot accomplished in the garden today as I woke up with a very sore neck and right shoulder today with limited neck movement when I turn my head left and right. I ended up laying on the floor for about 1hr with one of these sausage pillows under my neck to try and stretch the pinched nerve out which helped some so after dinner I am going to do the same again for another hour so hopefully I sleep better tonight, I think the stressful week at work brought it on as by Friday I had a lot of tension between my shoulders and in my neck.

Hi Jean luved your funny comment about Neo. ‘Purple Star’ needing Viagra to pup he he. I think given it had to recover from the fertiliser burn when I first brought it as a mature pup really set it back some but I am hopeful that it will start producing pups in the new year.

Jean pleased to hear you liked Ae. ‘Rodco Inverta’, I still have to go look on site at Ae. ‘Alvarez’ to see what it looks like as I am not familiar with this one? Jean nice pics of your Ae. Mend plants, they are all really nice and that Till. Leiboldiana variegate is absolutely gorgeous.

Nev he he the Nidularium in Pic 4 you asked about is in fact one that you sent me not that long ago and at the time you had let me know it was a NOID, it was just starting to bud in the centre and now it is in flower and I think it’s beautiful. I doe’s kind of remind me of Nid. ‘Spotty’ but the flower colour is different and it does not have the obvious spots that ‘Spotty’ gets, so now here we both sit wondering what its name is but never the less it is beautiful all the same with or without a name.

Nev you are forgiven for deserting Shirley and I in the political race, I totally agree spending quality time with our broms is far more important.

Nev you are most welcome, happy to have put your name down for a pup of Ae. ‘Rodco Inverta’. I checked on one of the mother plants today and she has three more pups on her even though she does not have much of a body left, hopefully the pups get to suck enough nutrients out of her before she dies, in the meantime I have sprinkled a little Potash around to help them along a bit. To think this one plant has produced 8 pups, that’s a great effort I think. Nev your Neo. ‘Purple Star’ is lovely, is it fully grown as mine was not that big when I got it but once it recovered from the fertiliser burn it just kept growing beautifully and coloured up more than I had expected it to given what it had been through.

Nev I really liked the pics of the two new “grand-kids”, they are beautiful and appear very relaxed to be around you and Ailsa and drop in for a yummy treat every now and then. When I used to feed them I adored when they used to bring the babies over to meet me and I often had them land on my shoulders and even on my head they were that comfortable with me, I was like the “Bird Lady” back then but now I am know as the “Brom Lady” he he.

Hi to anyone looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening

Trish

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ianperry

November 30, 2013
4:10 AM

Post #9718832

Hi all, the dispute has settled and all is calm at the moment. I had a good day to play with some seedlings and read a bit. I need time for myself at times as we all do. In Pic 5 the blue pots have Ae recurvate seedlings and the brown pots have Ae lueddemanniana. I also potted up 20 or so Neo concentrica maybe Plutonis seedlings. Then we had a shower of rain.

Shirley nice Vrs. My N Shelldance is one of those plants that is growing upwards like a tree and not pupping as yet, I don't use much fertiliser on it and it has reasonable colour. I wonder if like Burnsies spiral it can be pruned and both parts planted.I have only heard about this propogation method and do not know anyone who has tried it.
I have several variegated plants and they are unreliable in reproducing variegated pups, some more than others.
Jean A green edged Ae mend looking plant would have Pink in the centre and would be called Ae Alvarez Mine has not pupped as yet. I will have to have a look at other Aechmeas to see what I have.

Nev I talk to my plants and know that I am a kangaroo loose in the top paddock, but who cares.They don't argue with me. Nice birds you have there and your plants are not bad either, in fact they are jolly goood.
Trish, nice babies, the centre in pic2 The plant with a lot of red would be my pick of them all just for today. What is its name please.
Have a good one.
Ian
Pic 1 Neo Amazing Grace both forms
Pic 2 Nidularium longiforium ( usede to be called Innocentii)
Pic 3 Nid Ruby Lee
Pic 4 Neo NOID
Pic 5 Todays potting

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works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

November 30, 2013
5:59 AM

Post #9718867

Hi all,

It has been raining here most of the day, nice steady, soaking rain, can almost see the grass growing.

Trish, thanks for taking the time to post pics before rushing off to work yesterday.

Nev, having the two monitors is really terrific, makes things so much easier, especially if working in two different programs at the same time. Wish I could help you on the 'how to' but mine was set up by a computer whiz, though it didnt appear to be all that difficult. I think the newer monitors are designed to be set up that way.

Nev, I no longer have the name of the fertilizer or the container it came in so I cant tell you the NPK ratio. I dont think it was the fertilizer but rather my heavy handedness that would be responsible, if it was fertilizing that was to blame for the NOVAR pups.

Jean, hope you are still enjoying the sunshine. Pleased you like my vrieseas, they are growing really well at the moment. Hope your frangipani grows well for you, they are so easy to grow here but do seem to attract a few insect pests.

Jean, like you, I talk to the birds, lizards and of course, the dogs and the plants. Fortunately we have no close neighbours or they'd probably have me committed.

Trish, my Ae Rodco Inverta is looking lovely, thanks, I'll have to post a pic. I think your nid NOID might be nid Leprosa. Nice pics.

Ian, glad to hear things have settled down for you.

Ian, I remember breeindy saying she had a neo Shelldance that was growing very tall and it hadn't pupped at all. Mine has never flowered and only ever produced one pup and that was quite a while back ... hope I get a few more. You've certainly been busy with your potting, and so neat.

Pic 1 Ae JC Superstar, pic 2 Ae Malva, pic 3 Ae Belizia, pic 4 Ae Blanchetiana Red

Bye for now, Shirley




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77sunset
Merino
Australia

November 30, 2013
1:28 PM

Post #9719052

The sun is shining so lots to be done today outside.
Hubby is much more mobile now so I can get out and leave him to potter around the house .
I potted a few of my seedling brugs yesterday so didnt have the usual chat with all the broms.

I have 2 broms to pot today and some pics to take as color appears.

Ian, nice to hear you were able to get back to your plants and get so much done.
You have been very busy with all those neat little pots.
I keep admiring how my little trays of seedlings are growing, but then I think of all the potting later.
I will have to find room somewhere for them.
Ian , I do like your two forms of neo Amazing Grace.
Your nid Ruby Lee looks different to mine. I may have wrong names , but I bought them as Ruby Lee and Ruby Lee novar.

Shirley, your aech Malva looks stunning. Mine is large but a bit lopsided. I see the color improving as it gets more sun.

Better get moving with the Roundup before the wind arrives.

Hello to everyone on and keep posting the beautiful pics.

pic 1... for Nev, the lovely guz Scarlet Lady in the sun.

pic 2...nid Ruby Lee

pic 3...nid Ruby Lee novar

pic 4...nid innocentii var lineatum...doesnt look much like the pics on FCBS

pic 5... my small neo Amazing Grace. She has a lot of growing to do yet.

Jean.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

November 30, 2013
1:33 PM

Post #9719053

Good morning everyone - Here we are at the start of December (the silly season). Why do we call it the "silly season"? Well it's that time of the year when everyone spends money they haven't got, on things they don't need for presents for people who they wouldn't think of giving a little gift to at any other time of the year. Much better to try and be nice to people all through the year with perhaps a little gift occasionally that you can afford; it will be much more appreciated.

Do we have a volunteer with the technical expertise to start up a new post for December? If so "come on down and do your stuff".

Regarding the mystery symbols that have been appearing on our posts, I did contact administration with what we though could be the cause (cutting and pasting from MS Word) and this is the answer I got:

Hi splinter1804,

Thanks for letting us know, but I'm afraid that there's a bit more to it...the symbols are appearing in Plant Files and other areas of the community as well. The tech team is working to find the problem and get it fixed.

Happy Gardening,
melody

Isn't it great when you notify this site of a problem; at least someone get's back to you and lets you know what's being done about it. It's a bit of a change from phoning and talking to a bloody machine which keeps telling you what numbers to press.

Trish - It's not much fun having a stiff neck, it just seems to slow down every other part of your body. I have found hot packs and gentle exercise will tend to loosen things up for me and get things back to normal.

Regarding the pic of your Nidularium, I had forgotten I had sent you a bit of that plant. Just when I thought I might get a name for it too. However all is not lost as the flower colour was the give away, and a friend who visited yesterday and who has a large collection of Nidulariums is pretty sure it is Nid. rutilans.

I didn't think it was Nid. 'Leprossa' as Shirley suggests as I have Nid Leprosa and that has very heavy spotting. I was initially thinking on a different track when I thought it could be a Nid. Leprosa "hybrid" as it does get very faint spotting occasionally and at other times there isn't any, however, I'm wrong again.

The Neo.' Purple Star' in the pic. I posted is a mature plant and although you can't see it for the water in the cup, there is an inflorescence forming. It doesn't seem as large as your plant and is reasonably compact at just 12" across. I have another which is much wider but that has been growing in an area of lower light and I expect the leaves are reaching out in search of more light which is why it isn't as compact as the one in the pic.

I always thought that Kookaburras only had two young at a time but when I look at my "Bird Bible" Neville W. Cayley's What Bird is That? I see they can have up to four. This solves our dilemma of where the extra two young who now visit have come from.

What's the nice plant with the red fingernails at centre stage in your Pic.2 it's a show stopper.

Ian - I'm pleased peace has returned once again and you can get back to concentrating on your brom's. It seems you are achieving more in the re-potting department than I am in mine.

I have often wondered as you have, whether Neo.'Shelldance' can be grown in the same way as we grow Neo. 'Burnsie's Spiral' as they both have a similar perpetual growth habit. When I looked up Shelldance on the BCR I was surprised to find that some growers think it may be a bi-generic hybrid and not a Neoregelia at all. I won't "spill the beans", I'll let you read the whole interesting story for your self at:
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7051#7051

If you want to delve even further and compare it to Neo. Burnsies Spiral, you can go to: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=3408#3408

You won't get any argument from me about the instability of a lot of the variegated brom's; that's why when committed growers are trying to stabilise a particular clone, they always bin everything else that doesn't meet the standard and never release any that are less than what's required.

I see you too are inquiring about Trish's plant at the centre of her Pic.2, I guess the three of us must have similar tastes.

Your Pic. 1 of the two Neo.'Amazing Grace' plants is very interesting. The plant on the left seems unsure as to whether its identity is the light form or the dark one; possibly having an "each way bet".

Your picture of Nidularium longiflorum brings back a few memories for me as it was a plant I got as a Christmas present at the first Brom Society Christmas Party I ever attended. I was a very large plant and I really though I had won the lottery. At that time it carried the long name of Nidularium innocentii var. wittmackianum which as you pointed out was changed to the shorter name of Nidularium longiflorum.

Unfortunately I can't help you with a name for your Neoregelia NOID.

Shirley - Pleased to hear you are getting some really useful rain, as well as seeing the grass grow I'll bet you're seeing the brom's smiling as well.

Thanks for the info on the dual monitors but I think it will have to go on the back burner for a while as I've just realised it would entail getting a larger desk for me as well.

It's a pity about not having the details of the fertiliser we asked the questions about. I know these containers always get binned when empty and that's why I usually write the coded info about the fertiliser together with other history on the back of my name tags. When I see a plant is not doing well or one that is performing better than others, the first place I look is the back of the name tag to read it's history.

I know I've mentioned this before and it's a system that does take a little getting used to, but it does pay dividends.

For example, if the back of a name tag showed: P/08/12/5x OzHK/CB/SBS. When translated this tells me the history of this plant which was a pup (P) when planted in August 2012 (08/12). It was fertilised with 5gm of Osmocote High 'K' (5xOzHK) and did have a bit of Cold Burn damage (CB) and came originally from Society Brom Sales (SBS). You can use any symbols you like as long as you understand what the stand for. (A check list is handy for ones that aren't used very often)

What a lot of wonderful colour you manage in all of your plants, even the Aechmeas. I especially like your Red blanchetiana and I would like you to put my name down for a spare pup if you ever get one as I'm sure it would make a wonderful gift for an elderly friend of mine who loves her brom's.

I also like the colour of your Ae. Belizia with the tell tale sign of the ripple effect in the leaves which make it that bit more unusual. I have mine growing in a low light area and although the colour is darker, the leaves aren't as compact as those on your plant.

That's it for today, sorry I don't have any pic's but I'll try and get a few today.

All the best, Nev.







bromishy
Townsville
Australia

November 30, 2013
9:16 PM

Post #9719255

Hi Everyone!

No much accomplished in the garden this weekend as still stiff in the neck and shoulder today but not as bad as yesterday because I tried to iron it out by doing a bit of swimming during the day between yesterday today and before I go to bed at night to stretch things out. The pinched nerve is still there but hopefully it will go away soon. I slept some of the night on the floor with our dog ‘Lexi’ as she had an upset tummy from eating mango and had really bad tummy cramps all night, so between the two of us we were a right old mess he he. Then I remember waking up back in bed and sat up to look for Lexi as I was worried and there she was curled up beside Joe who had decided to sleep on the floor with her also as he was really worried about her. She is feeling a lot better today and has slept a good part of the day inside with the air-con on and is eating and drinking like normal which is great.

Hi Ian nice brom pics and great to see how busy you have been potting up all those beautiful seedlings, they look great, well organised and so neat. I especially like how you have them hanging like that, a real room saver. I was going to do similar against our back garden galvanised fence, pot and hang my seeding’s there but have not got around to doing anything yet as I still have not organised hangers to go around my pots.

Ian the brom you liked and asked about in Pic 2 is Neo. ‘Tangerine’, it is a mature plant that has lost a bit of color because I have put it in a bit more shade to protect it this summer.

Hi Shirley pleased to hear you are getting some nice rain. It appears to be missing us but we could do with some more to fill up our town dam. The garden and lawn looks great from the small amount of rain we have had that has made a world of difference.

Shirley I felt it was important to post pics the other day before I went to work because I know just how much everyone likes looking at brom pics and aside from everything we learn from being a part of this great forum the pics are like kicking back with a good brom magazine and looking at all the wonderful pictures and writing the names down of the one’s you really like and sometimes the pics give you great ideas. Just sometimes it is not always possible in the evenings with so much going on or sometimes Joe has the hard drive that has my brom pics on it.

Shirley pleased to hear your Ae. ‘Rodco Inverta’ is doing well, it is one that never disappoints me in the garden because it is a real stunner and makes such a statement in the garden. Thanks for trying to ID the Nid. NOID Nev sent me, I had no idea which one it might be but I adore the flower it has produced. Lovely pics too, especially Ae. Blanchetiana Red which is gorgeous.

Hi Jean pleased to hear the sun is shining for you and that you got a bit done in the garden. Nice brom pics also of all the Nids and Amazing Grace.

Hi Nev thanks for forwarding response from Melody from DG, sounds like they are looking into the matter which is great but could possibly take some time by the sounds of thinks.

Nev thanks the neck and shoulder is loosening up a bit but the pinched nerve I can feel is still there deep down; hopefully swimming daily will help.

Nev thanks for the ID of Nid. NOID that your friend thinks is Nid. ‘Rutilins’, I will have to look up picks of Nids. as I do not have that many of them in my collection to compare with but really like the look of the flower as well as the shape and color of their leaves.

Nev the brom a few of you asked about in Pic 2 was Neo. ‘Tangerine’, it was funny how so many of you asked what it was, just goes to show we all have great taste in broms he he.

Nev thank you that was an interesting read about Neo. ‘Shelldance, now we will sit and wonder if Neo. ‘Fairy Paint’ was crossed with ‘Purple Star’ as they do share that same purple color?

Hi to anyone looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening

Trish

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ianperry

December 1, 2013
1:03 AM

Post #9719300

Hi all, Just another day that I took my time to do as little as possible. We had a bit of rain but not enough to measure. I cleaned up a lot of emails on my computer and did a bit of research. I also went to the markets and bought a couple of plants with a bit of colour.I am watching my pennies lately as money tightens up and we still need food on the table.

Nev I got sidetracked yesterday with the comment on Viagara on a plant to make it pup. I was thinking of your coathangers breeding in the cupboard. And the monitors are there too. Are you planning to hybridise them. What would you call them, Coat monitors.
Thanks for the link on Burnsies spiral and Shelldance. My shelldance has its first pup showing now after nearly 2 years that I have had it, it has also flowered. Burnsies spiral is just sitting pat.
The more coloured Amazing Grace is the dark form and has had better light than the other one
That Neo NOID is one we have been watching for a while now, I will have to get the progress pics of this plant and put them together. I am having 2 weeks off over Xmas break.
Jean my Nid Ruby Lee has been grown in the shade, maybe too much and that could be changing its colour, it is now up the back where it will get more light.


Shirley after I take the pup off Shelldance I am going to plant it deep and see if it will sucker. It has roots growing off the stem for about 3 inches. This will just be another experiment.

Trish, I like Neo Tangarine, it is a very colourful plant and really stands out due to it's colour. There are not many plants with this colour or even close to it. Thanks for your comments on my seedling set up in that area. With you thinking of whether Fairy Paint was crossed with Purple Star, why not try it yourself. I don't have Fairy Paint as yet and had not really heard of it before. You have aroused my interest as well. Nice gardenscapes.

Have a goood one,
Ian

Pic 1 stoloniferous Aechmea pup
Pic 2 Neo Little Black maybe
Pic 3 Neo meyerendorfii variegated
Pic 4 Neo Tomatoe Soup
Pic 5 Neo Yellow King

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 1, 2013
1:15 PM

Post #9719629

Hi everyone - As I've said previously, I often get side tracked when I set out to do a job with my brom's; well yesterday was no different, I had intended to finish re-potting the Bill's and during my early morning walk around "the plantation" I noticed something bright red among the old Neo. Mums which all hang from the roof at the rear of the shade shelter I built off the fence.

When I went to investigate I found two nice big pups on a plant of Neo.'Crimson Glow' (Red Fleck) shining in the morning light. While I was getting them down I decided to see how the other old Mums were progressing and much to my surprise there were quite large pups everywhere. It only seemed like a week or two I put them there to retire however It appears that they were like the monitors and coat hangers in the cupboard I mentioned yesterday; when left to their own devices they multiply.

Anyway, I pulled down all of the ones with pups large enough to remove and before I knew it, the day was over and I had a trolley full of re-potted Neo pups and the Bill's were still on the bench patiently waiting.

Now for a drama with a happy ending: about seven years back I had a computer crash and lost heaps of early brom. pic's as I foolishly hadn't backed them up. As I was sorting out my computer bookmarks yesterday I came across one for "Photo Bucket". This was a photo storage system which I previously used when I was a regular on the old Garden Web Forums as it was the most popular way of posting pic's onto that forum. Out of curiosity I clicked on the bookmark to see if it was still active and lo and behold it was, and what's more it still contained my old pic's; all 1576 of them. So be prepared to see some of Nev's historical brom. pic's in the future.

Jean - Sorry I missed your post yesterday, we must have posted at about the same time. I usually "refresh" this site before I post to see if anything new has been added, but I didn't yesterday as I was in a hurry.

Anyway, it's nice to hear hubby's improving and is more mobile and you're getting some decent weather finally which allows you to get out among your brom's.

You've done a good job with your Guz. 'Scarlet Lady' and what I have found is that when it flowers, I give it a bit more fertilizer as Guzzies will take more than other brom's will and this will help to promote new pups more quickly.

As for your Nid. innocentii var. lineatum, like most variegated plants it is variable and some plants have more prominent markings than others. I have seen one extreme with very few of the fine white lines right through to the other end of the scale where the white was the prominent colour and there was so much white lining, it seemed the sparse lines were were green and the background colour was white. It was a most unusual plant but unfortunately it burned severely when ever exposed to even a little bit of stronger light, and it was very difficult to grow from a pup probably because it was so close to being an albino.

To demonstrate what I'm saying about the variability of markings, go to the site below to see just how changeable this plant can be: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Nidularium innocentii var. lineatum images&qpvt=Nidularium innocentii var. lineatum images&FORM=IGRE

Trish - I think we all have weekends like yours where we don't accomplish much in the garden due to one reason or another. However with any problem involving the spine, you're much better to take your time and make sure it's right before you push yourself again.

It's great to see pet owners so caring that they would sleep with their animals when they are sick and I'm sure Lexi appreciated you and Joe keeping her company while she had her belly ache.

Your comment to Ian about the way he has his plants hanging on the mesh prompted me to look through my old Photo Bucket pic's for a pic of when I once had plants hanging on mesh. It was another of the many things I have tried successfully in the past and I'll try and post the pic.

Our discussion over the last couple of days about Ae. lueddemanniana cultivated varieties such as 'Alvarez', 'Rodco', 'Mend' etc. reminded me of the time when I grew some Ae. 'Mend' seed. It was in the early days of my brom seed growing and I was very much encouraged but the terrific germination and growth rate of these seedlings.

I was encouraged even further when at about six inches high, some were showing some traces of a brilliant red colouring in their leaves (very similar colour to the red in 'Alvarez') I was ecstatic until I happened to touch the coloured leaves on one of the plants and they fell out; yes that's right they all had the dreaded "crown rot". I don' think I've ever been so disappointed as that was the last thing I expected as they were such healthy plants.

However, I tried to turn a negative into a positive to try and learn from this disaster and so I started looking for a cause. I finally tracked the cause down indirectly to the effects of the heatwave we had during that time (New Year's Day 2006/2008?). When I looked more closely, every plant that was rotted also has a small dead slug down in the centre cup and I can only guess that the slug got into the water to escape the excessive heat and as the water got hotter, they cooked and as they began to decay, they started the plant rotting.

Although I thought I had solved what had happened, it still didn't make me feel any happier. What did occur though was that every one of the plants effected, put up two new pups each even though they were only young plants themselves. This just goes to show the extraordinary steps Mother Nature will take to try and preserve a new generation of a genus.

Ian - Talking about breeding monitors with coat hangers, you would probably finish up with a monitor you could hang from the ceiling Ha! Ha!

I have also included a pic of my Nid. 'Ruby Lee' today for comparison. This plant was grown on the centre bench of the top shade house beneath 75% beige shade cloth, but it did have rows of Neo's hanging at three different levels between it and the shade cloth which cut down considerably on the amount of available light.

Ian you commented on Neo.'Tangerine' but did you know this is another example of two plants with the same name on the FCBS and further more it isn't even shown on the B.C.R. at all ! To differentiate between the two different forms they have called them Neo.'Tangerine' (Groves G.) and Neo.'Tangerine' (Anderson G.) after their respective hybridisers. So it just goes to show I'm not the only one who makes mistakes, even the experts get it wrong sometimes.

They're nice pic's Ian and three great examples of variegated plants well grown, thanks for sharing; they're certainly good "eye tonic."

Pic's today are 1. Plants hanging on a sloping mesh frame (about six years ago). 2. My wonderful hybridising results showing the brilliant red colouring starting to show in the leaves of some of the seedlings from the 'Mend" seed (Ha! Ha!) 3. My Nid. 'Ruby Lee' for colour comparison 4. Ae. caudata eipperi just now coming into flower and finally an old pic of a group of Ae. recurvata 'Blushing Pineapple' plants.

All the best, Nev.

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splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 1, 2013
10:29 PM

Post #9719854

Hi everyone - Just something I forgot to mention in the post above.

Trish - In your Pic.4 of November 30, is that a branch of a Bottle Brush (Callistemon) tree top left of pic? If so did you know it's one of the best types of trees to grow Tillandsias on as well as sow Tillandsia seed on?

A friend of mine planted a few Tillandsias on his Callistemon a few years ago and now he has hundreds of Tillies where all of the seed has fallen and germinated.

All the best, Nev.
bromishy
Townsville
Australia

December 2, 2013
3:04 AM

Post #9719882

Hi Everyone!

We got a bit of rain last night and early this morning which was nice and possibly will get some more tonight by the looks of the sky as I was driving home.

Ian pleased to hear you liked Neo. ‘Tangerine’, I like it too for its great colour and the overall sheen it get all over its leaves. I do find it to be a slow grower / pupper though, not that I am in any hurry, just that I want more of them in the garden because like you say not many other plants come close to its color and I also like how its leaves cascade around the pot which is one of its charming habits.

Ian thanks as much as crossing Neo. ‘Fairy Paint’ with Neo. ‘Purple Star’ sounds great unfortunately I do not have ‘Fairy Paint’ in my collection to try this out but wouldn’t it be nice to try, a chapter I am yet to embark on “hybridising” but that I am really looking forward to giving it a go one day as I have great patients and ever since I was a kid I always liked experimenting and still do. All I know about ‘Fairy Paint’ from seeing it around is that it has the deepest burgundy leaves flecked with lime green that is very appealing, its leaf shape really reminds me of Neo. ‘Shelldance’ mainly because of the slender leaves it has, but I don’t think the leaves twist and turn like ‘Shelldance’.

Ian your Pic 2 of what you think is possibly Neo. ‘Little Black’ just seems to be too big to be ‘Little Black’ but the color is very similar as well as the sheen, but I notice there are some green flecks in there on the bigger leaves which makes me think it is not ‘Little Black’ as I do not think it gets green flecks? The one I got from our local market does not have any green flecks and it is a small brom that has just produced its first pup. Shirley may know as well as I think Shirley has ‘Little Black’ also as I eyed her one off awhile back before I found mine at the market recently. So Shirley thanks you can take my name off the Wish List for a pup of ‘Little Black’ just in case someone else is chasing it. Ian I really like your Pic 4 and Pic 5 of Neo. ‘Tomato Soup’ and ‘Yellow King’, I have not heard of these ones before, they are really nice indeed.

Hi Nev what a nice surprise all those beautiful pups you found ready to come off and be potted, that’s the nicest feeling I reckon.

Nev I can’t wait to see your “Photo Bucket” pics from way back, how wonderful that you thought to track them down that way that’s fantastic.

Nev thanks my neck and shoulder pain is a little better but it’s the night that get me where the pain is really intense but I try to gently exercise it out in the morning with a light swim which usually helps to get me through the day a bit and then with sitting behind the computer and work it starts to tighten again.

Nev the one thing Joe and I absolutely both adore are our dogs (girls) Lucy and Lexi, they mean the world to us and we hate when they are in pain and we look after them better than we do ourselves. They are great for reducing our stress levels, don’t ask for much and we treat them like they are our babies and probably spend more time with them than most people do their dogs, but they mean the world to us and are such a big part of our life and when they are not around we miss them terribly. Joe is a very big softy with them and I am like the one that has to tell them off every now and then if they have been bad, but that’s not very often as they are very well behaved most of the time he he.

Nev that’s sad how you lost way back then those seedlings to crown-rot, did you ever try again sowing some more seeds? When you write how some of the pups threw pups before they died happened to one of the little seedlings you sent me, the pup nearly died and produced a pup but the original pup is still alive just, still feeding the new pup, I was totally blown away by this Nev as I have never seen this before so learnt something new that day and naturally was thrilled to bits I had not lost the seedling all together.

Nev Pic 1 of broms hanging on a sloping mesh frame look fantastic, what a great idea and how neat and organised it all looks, you are so great at working well with the space you have and turning each area into something magical. All your other pics were awesome too, especially the color in those broms from the ’Mend’ seed, breathtaking color.

Nev yes good spotting that is the branch from a Bottle Brush that my baby broms live under, I never thought of growing Tills on it Nev but that’s a fantastic idea, I have another Bottle Brush down the other end that looks a little like a Bonsia the way I have shaped (hacked into) it so I will have to give the Till growing and germinating seeds on a go Nev and let you know how I go.

Anyway time to head as neck and shoulder is really starting to burn so I better give them a rest.

Hi to anyone looking in or on the sick list.

Take Care and Happy Gardening

Trish

Pic 1 Random shot
Pic 2 Neo. 'Prinsler'
Pic 3 Neo. 'Franke' - hope I got spelling right, I think I have?
Pic 4 Neo. 'Rose Blush'

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ianperry

December 2, 2013
3:12 AM

Post #9719889

Hi all, I did nothing plantwise today except to water some of them. Thanks for the nice comments on the variegated plants yesterday. Neo Tomatoe Soup and Meyerendorfii variegated were both new purchases. Yellow King I have had for 6 months or so. I am happy with its performance. I know that I have too much shade in my yard and positioning of plants is more difficult. It is easy for me to get the hot damaging afternoon sun but at the price of burning too many plants in the back yard. The front gets sun from daylight to about 5.00 in the afternoon then the neighbours trees restrict the sun.
I read with interest that Neos need to be looked down upon to show their best and as with a rule there would be exceptions, like Bird rock, Spectabilis varigata(now called Jaffa) and Pascoaliana that I can think of at the moment. What I would like to be able to do is to have some of my plants on 3 levels, 1 on the ground, 2 at chest height and 3 up above. Then each plant could be seen from different angles and in different lighting. Well that is my idea anyway. I am sure there would be room for improvement.
Have a good one
Ian
Sorry no pics tonight

works4me

works4me
Brisbane
Australia

December 2, 2013
4:19 AM

Post #9719901

Hi everyone,

new thread for December 2013 is here:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1343228/#9719902

See you there, Shirley

This message was edited Dec 2, 2013 10:28 PM
splinter1804
shellharbour
Australia

December 2, 2013
12:53 PM

Post #9720185

Hi everyone - A nice day here yesterday and by the sound of the little Blue Wrens twittering outside the window, it promises to be another nice one today. Didn't get a lot done in the brom department yesterday as I had to go up the coast a bit for my physio session. The session doesn't take long, (just an hour) but add to that the travelling time and there's half of the day gone. I'm starting to notice little indications of improvement after a week of exercises and as I said to the physio bloke yesterday, "Rome wasn't built in a day", so the jury's still out on just how effective this programme will be.

Shirley - Thanks so much for starting a new thread for December and that clone of Neo.'Bob and Grace' you posted is the perfect way to kick off the new month. It's even better than the pic of the original Bob Larnack clone on the BCR. Anyway so as not to confuse the issue I'll start my comments from the posts at the end of the November thread before I go to the new one.

Trish � Pleased to hear you got a bit of rain yesterday, there's nothing like it to freshen everything up. Also pleased to hear your neck and shoulder pain is gradually improving; don't sit for too long at the computer at work as the recommendation is for a break every two hours and bit of a stretch and walk around before you go back to it again.

You are fortunate with your Neo.'Tangerine' that you got the best one (the Grove's hybrid) of the two different hybrids. The main obvious feature I see is that the leaves of the Groves hybrid (your one) are a bit recurved and turn out and downwards where the other one doesn't. Your clone is also superior in colour and unfortunately I can't compare them size wise as no sizes are given, but as I said, you got the best clone. Don't forget to write (Grove's G.) after the name on your plant label.

As for the discussion about Neo.'Fairy Paint', there's nothing I can add as I don't have the plant nor have I ever seen it. I do have a couple of plants where it was used in the breeding and that's about it. As it's a Hummel hybrid no parentage is given, and just like all of his other hybrids he wasn't prepared to share this information with others. I was surprised to find on the BCR though that it has connections to Neo.'Rien's Pride' which I posted a pic of a short time ago. For more info. go to:
http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=4262#4262

I can't add any more thoughts about Neo.'Little Black' as I don't have this one either, but looking at the BCR and reading the description it's only a smallish plant as it's described as being like a black Neo. 'Fireball' with green edges to the leaves although this isn't evident in the pictures.
See: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=5435#5435

Your absolutely right about what you say about dogs, a man's best friend who asks for little and gives you a lot. I've always had dogs but don't have one at present as it's too soon after my other little mate died to replace him just yet.

As far as rot in brom's go, I've almost always found it to be a back-handed benefit which encouraged new pups much quicker than they would have normally been produced. I never look at it as being something fatal to the plant, just a problem that slows it up a bit.

Beautiful plants in your pic's again but what caught my eye is the sun shining through the pink coloured leaf poking out of the big terracotta pot on the right in your Pic.1. Can you tell us the name of this plant please and how about a pic showing the whole plant, c'mon, don't hide it from us.

Ian � I should have said that �most� Neo's look better when viewed from above when I mentioned that in a previous post. Like you say there are certainly exceptions which need to be viewed from below to show their true beauty and I think I did mention somewhere that the first time I realised this was with one of my very first plants, the species Neo. spectabilis which I had mounted in a tree. I have never viewed Neo.'Birdrock' from below but imagine the beautiful silvery striping would be seen much better from this position than from above. It's something I've never thought of and must certainly try.

As for hanging plants at different level, as you know I have mine hanging at three different levels (initially just to save space) and the different colours you see when the light is from behind them really changes their appearance and is certainly an added bonus. I guess it's a case of you won't really know until you try it out for yourself. Unfortunately my plants have now become so overcrowded that I don't see many of their best attributes no matter which angle I view them from anyway.

Shirley � I have a few spare Neo. 'Burnsie's Spiral' plants and would be happy to put your name on a pup if you like.

As you say it was nice surprise finding all those plump pups on the old Mother plants, that is until the realisation struck me that I now have to find somewhere to put them all. I was particularly pleased to see a pup on one plant called Neo.'Oh! No! X Self. It's a plant I originally bought from Jack Koning and have never seen it anywhere else. I don't know if it's a hybrid he made before he concentrated mostly on Vrieseas, but it is a beautiful plant but unfortunately another that the camera never captures accurately.

Once again a beautiful array of Neo. pic's; I don't know Neo.'Chubby' but I find the colours most unusual and almost like you've stuck two different plants together. When I look it up on the BCR I see that it's a Grace Goode hybrid, however the pic is only a side view and it doesn't look much like your plant at all. Your plant is a good example of a plant that must be viewed from above to see it at its best.

I have Neo .'Pink Sensation' and I've seen a few others grown by friends as well, but none of them have the nice wide leaves that your plant does, are you feeding it steak and eggs for breakfast each morning? It's a beaut!

Neo. 'Sunday's Sister' is another I'm seeing for the first time and what an unusual amount of white is displayed in its foliage, almost like a Neo.'Gespacho' that's been bleached; certainly very different. Neo. 'Sunday Picnic' is another beautiful hybrid from Sharon Peterson of Hawaii and can be spectacular when you get the conditions just right (grow it in Hawaii) as can be seen in the picture on the BCR at: http://registry.bsi.org/?genus=NEOREGELIA&id=7336#7336

You seem to get a lot of Neo's in Queensland that we never see down here and Neo.'Purple Puff' is another example. Once again a nice combination of colours to set off the white flowers. I don't know where you source your plants from Shirley but you certainly have the technique for �sniffing out� the good ones.

Just a few of the archive pic's from my old �Photo Bucket� files to finish up with today: Pic.1 heaps and heaps of Ursulaea macvaughii seedlings which were all given away as they didn't do well down here. Jen had one that got to about three feet across, so I'm glad I didn't keep them or I would have needed to move out. Pic.2 shows an experiment where I sowed seed on paper towelling on top of the mix to facilitate easy separating when it was time to thin them out, there is also a percentage of albinos among these ones which usually die within a couple of weeks. Pic3 shows a batch grown from the seed of an albo-marginated Aussie Dream hybrid. This is where I first found out that an albo-marginated seed parent will only give mostly albino seedlings. Pic 4 shows a batch of variegated seedling I bred using a Painted Lady (variegated sport) as a parent. (The experts said it wasn't possible, but I have the proof that it is He! He!) Pic.5 A few Acanthostachys strobilacea
seedlings.

All the best, Nev.

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breeindy

breeindy
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December 3, 2013
12:53 AM

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hi i am still here...just! hehe! have to get some pics to post. My white out has some nice colour and flowers. Been busy with dance concert and xmas prep.

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